Black Desert Review in 2024 - Should You Play BDO

Is Black Desert worth playing in 2024:
Black Desert is an open world sandbox combat MMORPG, with a huge focus on life skills, action combat and end game grinding. And in this video, I go over my first impressions returning to the Black Desert in 2024.
Black Desert has released a bunch of new quality of life features, that make the game more fun to play and easier for new and returning players. So I wanted to go over if now is a good time to try Black Desert in 2024. Black Desert is one of the most visually aesthetic MMORPGs out there, but with one of the most grindy and punishing end game systems. So does it still hold up as one of the best MMOs.
This will be aimed at new and returning players in Black Desert, giving an an unbiased review including why you should play BDO, why you should avoid BDO and if now is a good time to start. I'd love to know what you think in the comments.
0:00 Intro
0:56 New Player Experience
2:41 Why Play Black Desert
6:54 Problems with BDO
10:04 Is BDO Pay To Win?
12:15 Black Desert Is Changing
15:31 Summary and Outro

[@MedievalMarty]

Now is a great time to get back into Black Desert! Happy to answer any questions if you're thinking about trying it :)

[@HanY-gf3sx]

is there a new server for new players?

[@jaosomeone5956]

@@HanY-gf3sx Yes seasonal server

[@michelizquierdo1381]

I know you are trying to be fair but we can tell that you love the game... Pve and pvp are full pay to win... Bdo is the most expensive game i have ever played

[@Ziegeri]

Biggest issue with BDO is that there is no group PVE content, no raids, no dungeons, nothing what most mmo players like.

[@verde5738]

Exactly. It's a boring, never-ending, lonely grindfest with no interesting endgame content.

[@scorpyonlord1705]

Well is better like this than to play with all idiots that cant move from fire or avoid arrows or anything

[@resdon4860]

That was the reason i dropped BDO last year, went to play WOW just because of keys, almost got 3000 rio and dropped it, installing BDO again, i guess its just an unending juggle between group-oriented and grind mmos lul

[@Garthavan]

Join a guild, your missing out on alot of that stuff lol he'll guild hunting giant whales or sea beasts is a thing on its own. There's the node empire you can build up and bring in unlimited resources and silver. There even horse racing and breeding. Saying there isn't stuff to do, just proves how lazy you people are getting. Want a real challenge go play Ultima online

[@Ziegeri]

@@Garthavan Have you ever played any of the popular mmos like WoW or FFXIV? That is the kind of PvE content that BDO is missing, any kind of team effort stuff that isn't mindlessly killing same weak monsters again and again. I have played BDO a long time and I am well aware what it has to offer, and I am not saying it is a bad game, just that it is missing what most mmo players want and is focused around what most mmo players hate (mindless grind).

[@dexfanai1906]

Long story short, Combat, graphics doesn't matter. If you like Grindy Games, It's for you. If you don't like grinding, don't even bother.

[@sulaygonzalezlima]

I mean not really most people that play this game don’t grind and just pvp since everything is capped gear

[@saery4523]

@@sulaygonzalezlimathey grind for better gear for pvp

[@snohiyy]

Thank you so much for this! I was browsing on steam, and saw this, it was one dollar, so I didn't think much of it and bought it. Now seeing this, I'm super exited to play! Immediate sub.

[@JookTime]

Same lol

[@MedievalMarty]

Amazing! Its a really unique game, hope you enjoy it :D

[@MechaMan2012]

Picked up the game a few years ago and dropped off early, but I should probably give it another shot sometime soon.

[@cheat13]

Thank you for the video! I'm not into MMO but it explained me why Crimson Desert looked like a too good to be true scam from nowhere xD Pearl Abyss used every assets and mechanics from BDO to build a Crimson Desert, that's why the devlopment is so fast and the trailers so insane.

[@billybo2200]

Nice video, easy and pleasant to watch!! Well done! Now I want to give this game a chance again.

[@Voeluspa45]

Thank you for being honest about the downsides of this amazing game. I am not playing anymore but I enjoyed it more than anything for quite a while.

[@beyasal]

Excellent review. I just want to add that a lot of the pvp content is now structured and gear capped/equalised, while open world pvp ganking is now almost non existent outside of the pvp focused Arsha servers, due to the radical changes made to the karma system.

[@05ostry]

thanks to new karma system probably griefing is daily thing

[@AngelSanchez-ig3jt]

I played this for a few hours and had no clue what to do, or where to go or what I was supposed to do. Yea the fighting is satisfying but starting up was a chore.

[@HeadpatBDO]

There's also a really elaborate music system that recently opened up to all classes. It can be pretty fun and you can play solo or with other players.

[@dlvarcade9729]

The mobile version of the game has boss rush modes, modes where you can use multiple of your characters together, does the main game have this too? I’ve only played the mobile version and liked it and want to try the main game but just hoping there’s things to do more than just grind mobs. I like a lot of the solo stuff in the mobile one.

[@amyheals]

awesome video! it's great being back in bdo and seasons make it so much easier to catch up gear wise

[@StickGun007]

Great video with proper explanation, thank you so much

[@Azrael1st]

I left the game because there was literally no PVE content to do. I think another comment said this and there is no solo dungeons or solo anything. Life skills is probably the best PVE thing to do 😂.

[@dlvarcade9729]

The mobile version of the game had boss rush modes where you fight a boss and it gets significantly stronger over multiple attempts. Does the main game have anything like this or is it literally just grind mobs?

[@samaaaa1]

15,000 + hours here. I'll make this easy for you. BDO has a FANTASTIC combat system. But it suffers from massive desync and a high skill ceiling- It takes awhile to learn. The best thing about bdo is how most of the grinding and rng can involve not a single other player. This is a massive con depending on what game you're coming from. There is generally not reason to ever interact with out players outside of pvp. - Aka if you're coming from ff14, for example, you will find yourself lacking a huge social aspect of mmos here. The game is not built for dungeons, raids, and etc. The world bosses aren't too interesting, mobs are braindead. If you want high skill, fast, and exciting people play bdo. If you want a social mmo (like mmo's should be imo) you'll play for a month, then likely quit.

[@thelastvigil111]

My kid plays a young person's version of this, based on horses. And you know what? After so many AAA single-player games have failed to click lately, I'm starting to think she's on to something. Trying several games a year isn't exactly cheap. They haven't always been refundable either. Anyone that has played a MMO knows there's a unique appeal to the simple relaxation of just zoning out with pleasing asthetics and a well-designed loop. Always something else you can do if you have the time, but just as important, it's no big deal if you don't. Maybe it is more satisfying for some players to drop occasional cash into one game or work towards their own objectives. Versus buying a game regularly, and being disappointed by broken launch after launch and other problems. I'm starting to understand why this appeals to many players. And unlike a title like FFXIV or even WoW.. the combat in BDO is not Mind-Numbingly Boring.

[@joeallen7781]

Your young one chills in BDO and mains a horse catcher/breeder? thats how you play and enjoy the actual game, and its not like a Pegasus isn't worth like 12 billion. Trying to rush X Y and Z is cruise control to burning out and quitting while saying "theres nothing to do".

[@perrymanso6841]

Well, in time you will see how much PREDATORY p2w BDO is.

[@audacyspectrum3612]

I'd love to go back and play this again. When it came out, it was free! I made 2 classes to end game. Love it! Then...poof! It became a Steam thing, lost my account and all its many hours of gears/characters along with it. Now, I'd have to pay for it? and start over...That was the icing on the cake for me. Now Steam has come out with a few noteworthy games since, but nothing really keeps me grounded in them. Is it just me? Or games are just not coming out like they use to make them? There's simply not much out there that has a wow factor in terms of "New Releases".

[@MedievalMarty]

100% agree dude, especially MMO's, lots of the new releases are a disapointment. I will say with Black Desert, the catch up is very good now. With faster leveling, seasons and fast travel, you might be able to get back to where you were pretty quick. But it still really sucks

[@larvalangel]

Great video. I feel tempted to try this after hitting a wall in Warframe.

[@perrymanso6841]

I don't recommend you. Warframe is a fair economy system while BDO is a hardcore P2W model.

[@alvinmapanao920]

when i bought this game on release, i thought it would be like FFXIV online where i can play with other people. so my brother got it too. at that time, we weren't able to team up and play together. so we played for a few minutes and quit. so is it still the same? basically solo?

[@ShepyGrizz]

You can just add him to your party. You guys were probably on the same server but different channels

[@OtacustesFR]

feel good to be back baby

[@theheadguy1212]

Will I get the dream horse as a returning player? I only played for a while, I was a level 55 ninja, a few more mobs til 56.

[@MedievalMarty]

I believe so! I came back after about a year and got one for free :)

[@zero1234-mg8rx]

dream is a permanent item u can get :3

[@rappool]

Great review! Blue_Dragon i think will like this. Hopefully lots of people see this. Same Shirt.😅

[@lawrencedator3065]

how can you make your DK that white? is that the color on the lowest left corner?

[@zedeco]

customization when creating the character or when they give a backpack that opens the beauty panel.

[@perm1730]

what is that character your video is showing at the end?

[@dyraniemiuw6155]

Awakening Woosa

[@Jollow7]

Does all these changes come to console and Xbox ?

[@svens3722]

do you still look the same as lv 1 and max level because there is only equip in the shop that change your appearance?

[@_loss_]

this is one of my big issues with the game

[@svens3722]

@@_loss_ same

[@AandKify]

you do

[@elemr4458]

well done im trying the game

[@Nebarus]

So it involves a bit of grinding?

[@josephlane1614]

Played at launch and my main issue was that it feels like combat is one sided in the players favor. I couldn't find an enemy who could bring a challenge. They all dropped so quickly and their attacks are easy to dodge. I was hoping to have someone fight back. The sandbox idea isn't horrible, but i think the issue games have with sandboxes has got to be the limited rewards for grinding lifestyle fields. Like, i get it this meal can give me a temp boost, but i'm already curbing everything i face without it. So why put in the effort to get these great boosters that aren't actually influencing my gameplay?

[@perrymanso6841]

Because PVP, and because there's some hardcore farming zones which food buffs can help you give that extra edge.

[@summertime8525]

Submitted to the great Bald_Squadron for review

[@sadheedhshanavas6037]

does return players get those tier 9 horse

[@Silent86]

The brightness of the game hurt my eyes. also is there any challenge? I just see you blasting skills and killing everything in sight

[@flxns9958]

for me the peak baseline for monetization in multiplayer games is warframe where 98% of the game is free and 70% of the grinds arent painful (and if they are you just buy them from other players from the premium currency you farmed in the game in about a day) what i wonder is how does bdo compare in that access to those that have played both games

[@perrymanso6841]

BDO is a predatory p2w system...

[@user-ol9ck7ig2f]

I want to see a 'steampunk type class' maybe like a gunner or something

[@geraldclark9280]

I play warframe. I know grind. I’m getting into this 😊

[@a40989d1]

installed it last night. kept crashing after entering the world.

[@Clebu]

the thing about P2W in BDO is that as you said you can theoretically pay money to speed up your progression, but at a certain point you will hit a ceiling of how much you can actually boost your gear with it. for a normal P2Wer, that doesn't literally throw tens of thousands of dollars into the game, you wont even reach 700gs, which by today's standards isnt't even remotely close in power to what you need for actual endgame PvP. Couple that with the fact that a ton of PvP content nowadays is capped, so gear doesn't really matter, and that even if someone would reach like 730gs by paying real money they would have no clue how to actually PvP and the "apparent" issue of P2W is completely negligible.

[@ADesertVoice]

For all those commentors saying you need to pay money to play this game...I've been playing BDO for years and the only thing I have paid for is the Value Pack (which is about the same as a monthly WoW subscription of $15) or even less. You can absolutely do EVERYTHING in this game without paying a cent. There are youtube videos of people playing as "IRONMEN" where the series of these videos is about people just playing BDO without paying a single cent and progressing with in game content only. Also, the daily login rewards and special events that happen almost on a WEEKLY BASIS...they give you SOO MUCH FREE STUFF That you literally do not need to buy ANYTHING from the store. Only people who are impatient or have a gambling itch say that you have to pay a lot of money to play this game, which is absolutely HOGWASH. Watch some youtube streams where people have progressed to end game without paying to win anything in this game. It is very doable.

[@amart93]

As long as I don’t have to spend a year to reach decent gear to clear most of the game content I’m fine? Is this possible?

[@Artofinverse]

Yes, the season character rewards basically gets you to mid game where you can clear a lot of the content.

[@AandKify]

not really yull be at the same spot for months

[@crillianmarvin6256]

​@AandKify You must suck. Because, hasrah can be done with season gear and can be 800 mil an hour. If you played 2 hours a day 5 days a week that's 8.6 bil a week. In a month, that's 35 bil a month or so. You can buy enough gear to move on. Eventually, it slows down, but not till the 680 to 690 gs. You get two rings free, that's 80 bil. A tet blackstar and a pen blackstar. Two free pen armors. Buying your last armors can be done in a month and be on your way to buy accessories. Naturally, making 800 mil just requires mild class familiarity. And I am not counting the insane free shit they hand out like the 6 costumes and what not.

[@AandKify]

​@@crillianmarvin6256 your tits got quite hard there. You went quite fuming all that fuss to tell ppl to grind 2 hours a day fer 5 days a week for a month or so. Considering you know what to do from the get go. I didnt play this game for a long time and I dont care but sure you do. Go at it shitter.

[@nestormendoza1176]

Wow thr new quality of life changes are amazing i am going back with a new account start from 0 again and clean slate as well as open mind

[@MedievalMarty]

hope you enjoy it :D

[@YvngCago]

Small comments like these just made me subscribe to you, good youtuber @@MedievalMarty

[@Junabku]

So, why o you become strong in this game?? if ther is no torunement , no sieges, no raids

[@Derka7520]

I bought the game back in 2017 and i just never went above level 20 for some reason idk why

[@vinzenzmachler409]

We started it yesterday, after about 4 hours we were at level 44. Complete a few quests on the new Olivia server and it will go quickly.

[@aniimey]

Is Steam Gift Card exist ? Cause the game is REALLY cheap right now but I can't pay online 😭

[@emptysis44]

yes

[@Foreversituated]

Wish it had dungeons and raids to do with friends

[@FuFuFusionx]

Its does have dungeons

[@DimiArt]

is this a game where you interact with other players a lot or is it one of those games that get super lonely after awhile?

[@ofnir123]

Honestly if you don't join a guild or have friends who play... people tend to just go their own way and not talk to you at all.

[@DimiArt]

@@ofnir123 i bought the game the day i posted this comment. It felt lonely asf. I tried talking to other players and 99% of them ignored me. Only 1 player actually interacted with me. He even told me most of them are just bots. That made me quit the very next day.

[@sykxplays]

Yeah its the perfect mmo for lonely people

[@renz2swagdup]

I'm buying this Friday

[@PrinceRocky561]

unfortunate

[@electrochem8819]

you also forgot you only pay black desert online once and unlock all the content, unlike WoW or GW2

[@PotatoGunCamper]

Is there any real PVP? All I saw in the video was killing mobs. It is really cheap, so it might be worth a look.

[@deniskasin2394]

what about pvp?

[@ben9090210]

As soon as i got to the 3% chance to upgrade gear i was out lol. Shame because the combat looks great.

[@majicweather4890]

I love the world of BDO, I just wish they added massive update to include tons of pve co op content like tons of dungeons and things. I know they have that one PVE dungeon now but that's old news. This games main focus is PVP and yes it's p2w

[@bboyg1]

P2w is an item that gives you an edge over players in combat. This is past for convenience of time. One paysto progress faster the other guy goes f2p and gets to the very level the whale was at but 3 months late.

[@benz19982]

​@@bboyg1 I like to call it Pay for convenience

[@XTGAMEZ009]

Hmm about the p2w aspect.. It's not worth the money if you want to have the best gear just by spending alone, that will be too expensive.. might as well buy a geared account.. and yeah some content in BDO is fun but most of them are time gated.. like boss shrines and guild league pvp.. grinding in circles is still the most profitable.. but if you like life skill then might give BDO a try.

[@maas6927]

I hate going afk while my stuff is on. Rather have it afk then log out and shut down, later come back.

[@stellasvartur4547]

The biggest downside for me is that it is highly addictive and then becomes a full time job, cause there is so much to do and it encourages 24/7 online status. So i have to give it a break every now and then.

[@SticksAandstonesBozo]

Except there is dungeons. There is raids. I’ve completed over 800 quests on my character. I’ve never grinded mobs once. It’s just this new thing where people hear a thing and just repeat it. If you wanna just do what you could do 8 years ago then go ahead. But it hasn’t been the way the game is for so long.

[@funnfungusie9622]

I'm not saying you lying but like nearly 100% of the fanbase is saying that this game sucks in the social aspect due to the lack of dungeons and raids.

[@dante44]

What raid do you speak of?

[@gotoindoofficial7003]

new server ?

[@AandKify]

the combat is cool but like just hitting mobs with same rotation over and over again sucks. I dont even want to play new char as I need to learn new rotation and do the same. They should add some fun crative stuff to the combat grind. I would rather fight one boss for 30 min than hitting roation for 30min.

[@kasiiow5318]

Random chance system is good balance. Its protect new players to get into this game.

[@JojoFan46]

So I wanna play the game for pvp

[@jalennorth6323]

Ive played this game on and off for some years. And the only thing that i see that absolutely holds the game back is that grinding is the only way to progress pretty much. While the combat is the absolute best to ever do it. Just the simple fact i have to literally go in circles for thousands of hours killing mobs is just awfully boring. This is by far the best combat in any mmo but its sad how they choose to utilize it. Everything else in the game is totally fine. Only thing that makes people quit is how boring the grind is. If there was other means to progress the game would be perfect and most likely have the biggest player base of any mmo ever created. With so much exciting combat and pvp, the game at its core is just boring. Thats why most people quit. Imagine ur fresh out season 540 gs trying to reach 680-700 so u can atleast be viable. So u just grind mobs for about 40 hours to hit 600. Then u realize ur still too weak to do pvp (which is arguably the most fun thing in the game) so u literally just have to go in circles for like 100-200+ hours (most likely alot longer like 1000+ because u wont be so lucky when it comes to rng) to just hit 680-700 gs. Thats just incredible boring to go through just to only be able to do meaningful pvp 1-3 times a week. Theres other pvp but its kind of meaningless and gets boring after an hour or two. And I’ve talked to people that are 700+ and they always tell me i dont know why i chose to grind so long. Most of them dont even know why they kept playing the game. They tell me id have a better time just reaching 620-640 and only doing capped pvp because pushing further is just a dreadful experience of circle grinding boredom. Thats my ONLY issue with the game. Its also worth mentioning most players/guilds that do have gear still play capped nodewars anyway( except the strongest guilds) so it may not even be worth to go higher than tier 3 cap requirements.

[@JmouaRUAM]

Absolutely correct. I logged on occasionally just to lifeskill and wish they would put more effort into other aspect of the game not just grinding. The game has so much other thing to do yet only way to gear up quicker is through thousand hours of grinding and that is incredibly boring. I wouldn't put myself in that situation and suffer when I was suppose to be having fun playing the game.

[@sunni6647]

a tent - lootpets - inventory space AND weight - u need it to play the game properly

[@Klaidas21]

Tent you get pets you get space you also get just keep on playing my wife is f2p player no problems with the amount of event going on

[@ItsSwitchXD]

I would say getting maids is better because you share it across all of your characters unlike weight. and like the person above said you should be good on pets because of how much events we get. And for tents you can spend 14mil (I’m forget the cost) at a old moon person every seven days and you’ll get a temporary tent

[@Garthavan]

If you actually play the game and not let it play its self then you will get alot of free shit, just got a free dream horse the other day from some event that was going in. Just play and you won't ever need to drop really cash.

[@leadpipejustice9253]

Combat is Amazing: AFK enemy mobs

[@Raspora]

ive played this thousands of hours. grinded hardcore as much loot as possible under an hour to make it to the top etc. This game got only 1 issue. not the p2w not the rng . Its cost tooo much time from your life. even makes you to let your pc running afk. i love every aspect this game but its tooks your life. stopped playing this for a couple years now. i gained sooo much free time i got shocked . this game kills your free time.

[@McNuggie_]

Considering its only 1$ rn its most definitely worth it lol

[@simonsay9794]

FAIR WARNING..... with the RNG system that exist in black desert. If you are planning to become one of the top gear player by P2W those pockets of yours better be REALLY REALLY DEEP. by the way, being a top gear player and being a skill player are two different thing. just don't be surprise when get out class by someone with lower gear. don't say i didn't warn ya 😁😁😁

[@tenzinchoerab3061]

Im a new player and currently level 22. So far, i have been only following the main quest and getting kind of bored... is there anything else i can do besides just the quest?

[@thenovakayne779]

I have the same question because i dont get what you are supposed to do say that u max one character i dont wanna do the main quest again on a second character

[@sulaygonzalezlima]

@@thenovakayne779you don’t need to

[@sulaygonzalezlima]

Watch guides before playing this game

[@thenovakayne779]

@@sulaygonzalezlima is there one that you recommend because alot of these videos are old but idk if they still apply ya know

[@deniskasin2394]

people play bdo only because the pvp is so good pretty sure other content is super dead

[@yasyas2255]

BDO is not a game, its a framework for abusive monetization. 3 (three) different subscriptions PLUS overpriced cash-shop you cannot play confortably without buying from on regular basis - and here you go, 24/7 mindless grind form months for a 3% chance to improve your gear. Nice try, but no, thanks.

[@aclock2]

To conclude: This game has great graphic and very fun combat, but the end game content is limited to Grind and p2w PvP.

[@joe6pak14]

As far as P2W, it technically is but reality it isn't. It would be the same as saying that a golfer who plays once a week and has a $20K set of clubs is P2W versus a golfer who plays every day with a $1000 set of clubs. Does it mean that the guy with the $20K set of clubs will win against the guy with the $1K set of clubs? No, it means that he will lose by a few less strokes if the guy playing every day is practice and skilled. There are a lot of "Trust Fund Kids" that come to the game, whale, get blown up, and then leave.

[@AbstractElement]

It's not pw2 at all its just slightly easier in the pve aspect if you pay and leveling pvp is still skill based

[@Ziegeri]

You get advantage if you pay, tent and value pack alone are huge advantage compared to someone who doesn't have those, then there is fairy and pets and crons. It is cope if you think it is not p2w

[@AbstractElement]

@Ziegeri you can get fairy for free pets for free maid and butter (about 4+) for free and any horse for free. All paying does is give you a small boost to pve leveling content pvp is still all skill based so quit yapping as if you know what your talking about

[@Ziegeri]

@@AbstractElement Only small percentage of the playerbase cares about PvP. Grinding is what people do 99% of the time even if they care about PvP, and for grinding you absolutely get insane advantage if you spend money. You are delusional if you think 30% tax reduction from value pack is not significant. Oh and you are right, I completely forgot about maids, with those you don't even need to leave the grinding place, and no you don't get enough of them to do that f2p.

[@AbstractElement]

@Ziegeri I legit have 5 maids as fully f2p so yeah you do get enough I'm only currently level 62 but eh. And you can get value packs for free after updates but tax reduc doesn't really matter money is so ez to grind you can get billions in an hour or so

[@adiwahyudi8889]

not many player nowdays, the city feel empty

[@AbstractElement]

Your wrong... I've been playing and there's lots of people. Even more now since it went free for about 2 weeks on Amazon prime got an influx of over 5k players

[@Garthavan]

All depends on the city also. Not alot of high lvl players stick to the first city.

[@adiwahyudi8889]

@@Garthavan no new player anymore, no no hardcore lifskiller also, sea content feel so empty, I just lifskiller and returnee player and the game feels so empty, I miss BDO pandemic era :)

[@The411876543]

the answer is no unless you can pay 100$ per month to upkeep all the buffs or you can cope and say oh i can just be f2p and buy it off the market :)

[@mokeish]

Dye is either ten dollars a month, or you spend about 500$ to get the colors you want. so yeah, no

[@beyasal]

merve's palette has been integrated into the value pack, you don't have to buy it separately any longer.

[@mokeish]

@@beyasal Fair but I don't think it's moral to charge people to rent dye in a game at around a rate of 10$ per month even if a bonus pack lowers the cost, and just the purchasing of dye in general is kind of a scam by forcing us to by random roll dye boxes that won't give us our color without 1000 purchases, the game is sadly still very predatory in it's monetization.

[@AbstractElement]

Or yk you get it for free like I have

[@Garthavan]

That's still not considered pay to win lol

[@bastrixer]

Stay away from this on console, it runs like a potato on ps4/xbox and not so much better on next gen. Hopfully they release a next gen version.

[@billitz6208]

i still dont understand why people say it looks good. Looks fking awful with all the pop in and mobs just rendering in max 10m in front of you? Especially shadows etc just jump in and out of the game, it just looks horrible when moving around. Textures are good but that is literally it

[@birdoldazir7262]

is a huge grindfest

[@MrHoldredge]

I play the game but it's 100% P2W. you can buy worker slots which is free money, farming slots which saves you 80 con which is a lot more free workers you can get, if you want to do life skilling like cooking you have to spend money or be making 1/3 - 1/2 the money due to you not being able to cook as fast. want to farm? buy another costume or that will take you twice as long. Want to sail? well if you don't want to do it slower than other people you have to dump more money or grind out all the workers for countless hours. having a hard time capping your movement speed? don't worry just spend money to unlock a movement speed crystal spot. want to move in the water and not hate your life? got to give them more money. want to afk horse train? got to spend money to max our your stables or get less than half the rewards because you couldn't hold all your horses for the 2x plus some events :).. fairies are just you either spend countless hours and HOPE for god RNG or spend money to be able to reroll its skills which are insanely powerful. TBH I don't think selling costume for silvers even a problem with how much money they are to the silver you get but this game 100000000% forces you to spend money on damn near every single content of the game or you do it at such a horrible speed it isnt worth doing. sure if all you want to do is grind out mobs the pay wall isnt that high but 85% of the game is pretty much a shitty F2P version of other games until you pay to unlock the content how it's suppose to be played.

[@sulaygonzalezlima]

It’s not p2w

[@ohmyglobohmyglob]

What's the point of an MMO if you're just going to solo play? You might as well play retail wow and grind away.

[@kaysintft-teamfighttactics9311]

if you want to start BDO go play private servers . No need to waste money and time

[@jakemeadows7429]

Game seems not noob friendly

[@NguyenThanh-de1mr]

maybe people consider it p2w and here is buying skins and decomposing them to get cron. but people forget that this game's RNG mechanics are very harsh so nahhh... forget about P2W and enjoy. Every day we only need to grind for 2 to 3 hours. save and buy something on the market Everyone wants to progress. You might have great luck with 1 Pen tap, but you won't be able to do it for your entire device. if you feel bored. Just rest and forget about bdo. after a while if you have nothing left to play come back. Don't make it difficult for yourself because of a game, it doesn't force us to do anything.

[@lillelort1111]

Boys and girls, build a business irl and then go into this game. It will make your life much more convenient

[@DEMONSPIKE]

well it is paytowin, costumes can be turned into cronstones, if you have unlimited money, you can just upgrade your gear to max in 1 day. and i talk about pen blackstar etc, not tuvala shit

[@KhalUsi]

I am a f2p Player ( only bought the tent for 20€ when it was on a sale), I play for 4 months and have over 700 gear score. If you enjoy this game and have no problem with learning few things you can catch up the end game pretty decent ... BUT if you want to rush the game a little like I did with grind and lifeskill you have to leave bdo always online like 24/7 xD so have this in mind. Otherwise you need more time to get over 700 gs

[@hurtstosmile]

grind to get better gear, to grind more.... repeat.

[@goblinphreak2132]

20 thousand is not good. especially when steam has an average of 250 million average users daily.

[@CodeDayDream]

thought endgame is pvp.. you get your gears up so you can compete endgame players.

[@Armywolfgaming]

Sounds like you played division 2!

[@Scientist_Albert_Einstein]

So, this game is $0.99 on steam, but since you said this game is pay to win, then I will not even purchase it. I do mi research before I get started on an MMORPG. If its a pay to win game, then I don't want it, even if its free or $0.99

[@gaussetrama272]

This guys based player on steam lol😂, more ppl playing at launcher not on steam

[@keselekbakiak]

The lack of content is a problem. But many people would probably returned if they change that stupid failstack system, and gave all pet the same instant auto loot, instead of having to upgrade the goddamn pet for auto looting speed.

[@bsmall1412]

Exactly. The “fail stack” upgrade system is one of the worst I have seen. Imagine dumping tons of mats for the “chance” of an upgrade. Then it fails and not only do you NOT get the upgrade, you lose upgrade status AND durability. Fantastic combat and fun, but it is a massive grind fest with a chance of loss…..

[@bboyg1]

P2w is an item that gives you an edge over players in combat. This is past for convenience of time. One paysto progress faster the other guy goes f2p and gets to the very level the whale was at but 3 months late..

[@verde5738]

The game severely lacks meaningful endgame content, you just grind 24/7...

[@NieyOrsted]

they're now giving free blacstar parts, guaranteed boss gear pen enhancements as well as Accessories, what more do people want to not call it p2w

[@sulaygonzalezlima]

All of that is for free

[@hassandodan5932]

tent pets weight inventory 3 subscriptions packs that are a must, but u could argue its an entry fee of about 100 dollars and 30ish monthly fee . ah and i forgot about the fairy too . maybe i forgot other things but yea u got the idea

[@nyuki5582]

i must say if you have no time mb 2h per day dont play it .better play with friends other games. Peralabyss is greedy as f with the sub system 40 € for all buffs and costumes are so expensive 25-30€ per. i played this game for a verylong time and must say it was wasted time (15k h). So if you wanna play a mmo dont play bdo its not fun and you can grind for 50-60h for 1 equipment with ok gear

[@Macho_Fantastico]

Tried it again recently. The combat is superb but there's so much jank to the whole game. Plus the story quests are so boring.

[@Vreyanir]

Sounds like a garbage game. No game can justify pay to win elements, especially in a garbage grind machine that has no depth in end-game. I don't mind paying for cosmetics, heck even pay for limited convenience. I get it, people need to make money somehow, it's a business. I bought the majority of the cosmetics in New World. But pay to win is pure greed, and in-line with gambling. I bought this game on sales but never downloaded it, was very cheap, now I know why. As I deleted Lost Ark before, I just permanently deleted it from my Steam lib as well. I don't need junk in my library. Glad I checked this video before I went through playing for hours only to be disappointed and feel even worse for wasting my time.

[@perrymanso6841]

Biggest problem about BDO is that IT IS a HARDCORE p2w game, like the 99% of Korean games are. The second biggest issue is there's NO class ROLES, this makes some classes suck donkey balls at all aspects and others excel at pretty much everything. There's other which are more minor but still annoying which is you CANNOT do pvp at sea, which suck donkey balls, because it requires a fuck-a-ton of hours to get a hardcore war ship, but you can only use it to kill sea monsters, and at the same time you CAN'T do it SOLO... PS: Like A LOT of Korean games with atrocious p2w models, also have their AMAZING ideas. BDO has probably the BEST and most COMPLEX life skill system that I've seen in any other MMO. Sadly it gets overshadowed by the p2w economy which, we gamers know is totally UNNECESSARY.

[@armandas.]

2 big reasons

[@xk33p0ut]

duude.. that is exactly what my head is telling me :D i am looking for fun not for sweaty bottle peeing guys in a voicechat :D:D