MEEEEOW!!!! BATMAN RETURNS Movie Reaction | First Time Watching

[@geek4life750]

Fun Fact: Michelle Pfeiffer knocked the heads off the department store mannequins with the whip in 1 take!

[@NiaMakiReacts]

Woah!!! Respect right there!! 😂

[@myajanell2504]

amazing😍

[@alicestevens8291]

This was Devito's favorite role. The studio also let him keep the clothes since he has a lot of problems finding things tailored to his body and I have seen him wear that coat since. He loved it so much he returned to the character a few years ago and wrote this alternate future story for a comic book about him. I admire that devotion to a role. Everyone here really gave it 200% come to think of it.

[@kross2659]

Danny DeVito ate actual raw fish in this movie because he likes sushi too. Also Michelle Pfeiffer spent three months training with a bullwhip, and the scene where she whips all four mannequin heads off, she did that in one take, the cast and crew gave her a round of applause and the jump rope was her own little improv.

[@LordVolkov]

"I want to hear this." I also wish to hear Alfred's dirty limerick about Selina's sudden departure 🤣🤣🤣 RIP to Michael Gough, the longest running Alfred

[@NiaMakiReacts]

Awww, RIP 💙

[@StCerberusEngel]

I used to dislike this movie, but after multiple viewings, it grew on me. Something kept me coming back and thinking, "did I really not like this?" and now, depending on the day, I have a hard time figuring out which of the two Burton movies I liked more. Michelle's Catwoman definitely makes the decision much harder. Her descent is just amazing to watch, and her physical work is next level. Anyone willing to put a live bird in their mouth for a scene gets props for dedication. I love her arc in particular, and overall I love Burton's spin on Penguin in this. Thematically, he is very close to his comic counterpart, (heir to the Cobblepot estate, but cast down from high society and turning to crime in order to regain what he believes should be his rightful place) but very different in execution which sets him apart from his origins and paints him more as an homage to Frankenstein's monster, a staple of Tim Burton's style. There's also a bit of Biblical Moses allegory with his backstory: put in a basket to float down river as a child, and the death of the first born plague. And all of the villains are reflections of Batman/Bruce: Shreck, the wealthy corrupt businessman, Penguin, the orphan crime boss, and Catwoman, the costumed anti-hero with traumatic origins struggling with duality. The story to this one is far more subdued and less clear-cut than the original, which might be a knock against it for some, but there are a lot of little details that flesh it out when you notice them. And the plot centers a lot around Gotham's inner-city politics and how the corruption from the rich is filtering down to the rest of the city as Shreck puppeteers officials to his own ends. Very fitting for the setting. Though I do like how they even gave him one redeeming quality in that he cares very much for his own son, Chip, and does everything he does for his sake, underhanded as it is. It even parallel's with Penguin's story, in that his parents threw him away, while Max offers up his own life for his son. "Tragic irony, or poetic justice? You tell me." There's a lot to like here, and I've come around on this movie since my first viewing all those years ago. Guess I'll chalk it up to being too young at the time to appreciate a lot of it.

[@positivelynegative9149]

In what world did you think Catwoman existed? 😄

[@trayntp]

This movie and the Penguin series have nothing to do with each other, lol. The Penguin series is in Matt Reeves’ The Batman (2022) universe, which is currently a standalone universe. It’s only confusing if you try to connect everything to everything. It’s not confusing if you just enjoy each for what it is.

[@NiaMakiReacts]

OOOOOH, lol thanks for clearing that up

[@woeshaling6421]

@@NiaMakiReacts lies, happy feet and the penguins in madagascar are all in the cinematic penguiniverse ;)

[@alejandro0100000]

And for Catwoman/Selina arc It is an analogy of the loss of innocence and desire for revenge. In a way it is a reflection of what happened to Bruce.

[@christhornycroft3686]

And between that and the Penguin, growing up I got a great lesson that parents don't always know what they're talking about. They're the reason this didn't do as well as the last one and we ended up with Batman Forever and Batman and Robin. My respect for adults as a budding teenager took a major hit because of what happened to this series. It's not a perfect movie, but I loved Catwoman's character and the fact that they went dark with the movie. It's Batman, not Superman. I grew up with Return to Oz and Labyrinth. This was nothing. I love my 90s nostalgia, but some parents tried to ruin it every step of the way. My puppy has seen both of the first 2 Batman movies and loved them. He's not traumatized, and I wouldn't show him anything I wouldn't show a human kid.

[@NiaMakiReacts]

Oh nice, thank you, I was too caught up in the chaos lol

[@sakuram69]

That’s almost exactly how I interpreted it as well, but I notice she didn’t completely flip out until the machine mentioned the perfume, which gives me the suspicion she, at one point, had ambitions of seducing her boss to further her career in the company to escape her role as the “secretary” everyone took her for. This made me connect that scene as a kind of mental rape scenario for her, which is why she didn’t just destroy her stuffed toys (the symbol of her innocence), she absolutely obliterated them with extreme violence; she deliberately picked a truly cruel way of destroying them (killing her sense of innocence and childlike wonder). For me, this insane and cruel way of “killing” her innocence indicates her loss of innocence wasn’t just bad, it was truly traumatizing and scarred her on a much deeper level. In any case, that one singular scene made this entire movie for me and once again solidified my conviction that Tim Burton is a friggin genius and my favorite director. I have adored this movie since childhood and it was THE movie that made me absolutely love Michelle Pfeiffer.

[@bf5250]

Selina’s motive is literally just that she’s utterly pissed off and taking years of misery and abuse out on everything that draws her anger: Schreck for degrading and trying to kill her, Batman for making her feel weak and in need of rescue, the woman getting mugged for reminding her of how vulnerable she used to be. About the only person she doesn’t directly lash out at is Penguin, and she was definitely thinking about it during the speech.

[@positivelynegative9149]

Joke missed. 🤣 "They treated me like number 2." Number 2... 💩

[@mikethemotormouth]

Nia: "He's not that bad looking." Also Nia: "I do not want to picture him having a sexual dimension."

[@JustGrowingUp84]

"Catwoman and Batman's in the same world?!" - Nia! Lol !

[@drptco]

Yesssss ! I subscribed to your channel not long ago! ✌🏽 This movie belongs in my Christmas movie list lol

[@NiaMakiReacts]

Thanks for subscribing!! And yesss!!! Kicking off Christmas season with this one!

[@Psycopathicus]

Regarding the toxic waste, I think there's a key line, here: "There's a whole lagoon of this crud in the back." In other words, the water in the penguin enclosure is just plain ol' water; Penguin was planning to sink Max and the kids in another part of his lair - at least, that's how I interpret it. And personally, while I know 'Batman Returns' has some script issues, it's still one of my absolute favorite movies. It's just one of those movies where, if you can get on its wavelength, the experience is like no other - the visuals, the music, the acting, it's all so good! I wouldn't call it a 'turn your brain off' movie, exactly, but it's definitely one that functions more as a sort of dark fairy tale than anything particularly logical - if you watch it like that, it's a very rewarding film, in my opinion.

[@melenatorr]

Oh, Nia, did you not know that Catwoman is a Batman recurring character? Oh, dear. She appeared as early as the first Batman comic book, and has appeared often, so often, since then, in many different yet similar guises. In the 1960s, she was played by three actresses: Julie Newmar and Eartha Kitt in the series of "Batman" and by Lee Meriwether in the movie based on the series (Eartha Kitt, with her signature purring voice was just right for the role, and as a woman of color, represented an important step in representation). Always a cool, fun, intelligent, often slippery character, Catwoman is great, by definition.

[@StCerberusEngel]

Eartha Kitt was purrrrrrfect casting for the 60s series. :)

[@dragonray9450]

It seems you don't understand the nuances of older films we didn't need as much hand holding as people today seem to.

[@-Devy-]

It's actually quite amazing how she seems completely confused by pretty much every single thing that happens.

[@dragonray9450]

@@-Devy- Yeah I agree

[@James-ev6dk]

Tim Burton originally only wanted Catwoman as the main villain in the movie but the studio was adamant that he use the Penguin as they had the opinion that he was the next popular villain after the Joker. Tim wasn't the least bit interested in the Penguin but compromised and put both characters in. He changed the Penguin character drastically from his comicbook counterpart and made him a man/monster.

[@positivelynegative9149]

"Who's gonna push the button?" She will. 🤣

[@NiaMakiReacts]

😭

[@Tempest_Elixir]

21:44 props to Michelle who learned how to use a whip and actually did that.

[@MadcapMatt]

My favorite 90s Batman movie.

[@StevePaur-hf4vy]

The Penguin was born Oswald Cobblepot and he was born with some deformities such as his deformed hands that looked like flippers. In the comic book series the back story of the umbrella is that he carries it out of habit because his mother always made him carry one ever since his father died of pneumonia. In the comic books and 1966 TV series The Penguin uses his umbrella as a weapon that fires bullets and poison gas. He also uses it as a parachute to make getaways from skyscraper roofs and as a shield against bullets. Penguin has just as many gadgets as Batman does. He is usually accompanied by birds with Penguins being the one he is most associated with. In the TV series his henchmen were all named after bird species. Catwoman is another one of Batman's arch enemies. Until I watched this movie I had no idea as to the origin of Catwoman. Just as the name implies, she is all about cats and has catlike behaviors. She wears gloves with claws for weapons that at times she coats with various chemicals like poison or some other incapacitating agent. She is quick, nimble and athletic like a cat

[@rainbowpegacornstudios]

*I LOVE this Batman movie so much. Catwoman and Penguin were PERFECTLY cast. I especially loved Michelle Pfeiffer's latex suit and makeup and the way she differentiated the voices between the two personalities of her character. The sexy femme fatale voice of Catwoman, and the hopeless romantic, bubblebrained and good-meaning, but emotionally distraught Selina Kyle.*

[@Angelicwings1]

I loved this film as a child

[@andrewreiber7691]

All of your points are valid. Regardless, it’s a fun movie. Danny DeVito is great and a national treasure. And Michelle Pfeiffer is just amazing as catwoman. There’s a short video on KZbin of her using her whip and hitting all her targets in one take, it’s quite impressive, ya should check it out!

[@yournamehere6002]

I think it's far superior to the first movie

[@leniobarcelos1770]

@20:58 😂 That got me. Thanks for the laugh, Nia.

[@StevePaur-hf4vy]

Some info for you. Christopher Walken's character is named Max Shreck. This was a nod to German actor Max Shreck who played the lead role in the 1922 vampire movie Nosferatu. Actor Paul Reubens, better known by his alter ego Pee-wee Herman, also appears as Penguin's father.

[@James-ev6dk]

This movie for me was all about identity and the conflicts we have within ourselves as we struggle to find our place in this world and within ourselves. That journey can be extremely chaotic especially if you're a broken person. The psychological chaos of the characters and the story structure all work for me on that level. I've been at war with myself for as long as I can remember. I think trying to second guess where the movie might be going could possibly make it feel more confusing. For me it's the kinda film you turn off the analytical side and just see where the story wants to take you. It's definitely expressionist art, a *feeling* movie rather than a thinking one. We either relate to that darkness within or we don't

[@diegocalderon5190]

Catwoman is one Batman's biggest love partners and one Batman's most famous rogue's. They fight and love...

[@radwolf76]

There was a set of McDonalds Happy Meal toys for this movie. They were less than pleased when it came out.

[@Tempest_Elixir]

35:52 Danny Elfman is incredible in anything he works on. My personal favourite along with Batman is Edward Scissorhands

[@MrGamer07100]

Your feeling on Batam Returns is the perfect the reason for a tonal swift for the third and fourth movies in this continuity universe. Lol Some people enjoyed Batman Returns for what it was despite just how weird depressing tone it got compared to Batman 1989. Others maybe appreciated it’s existence for spawning a 180 direction that fans also grew up with in later sequels…

[@christhornycroft3686]

I like that this is in keeping with a lot of 80s sequels - it went dark. Sadly, it was too dark for some parents with sticks up their asses and it drove Tim Burton from the director's chair and the next film, Batman Forever, directed by Joel Schumacher, was much more of a kid friendly product placement to sell toys with a lot of stupid innuendos, but it at least gave us a great soundtrack. I can't say that about Batman and Robin, the movie that killed superhero movies for a while because it took whatever was done on Forever and put it on steroids and it was literally just a toy commercial with bad one liners. Batman Returns isn't a perfect Batman movie and the ending is a bit strange, even for Batman, but I liked that they got into Catwoman's character and who she was in a serious way and Michelle Pfeiffer was cartoony without being completely unserious. Michael Keaton is still my Batman and Bruce Wayne, and the supporting characters, while a bit over the top, never make we roll my eyes like the next 2 films. The 80s and early 90s were about grossing out or scaring kids, but some wimps went too far and caused this one to not do as well at the box office as the first one. That's why I'm a dog dad and not a human dad. I don't want any of that rubbing off on me. My Cavalier King Charles, Alwyn, has seen the first 2 Batman movies, along with Return to Oz, loved them, and he's 8 months old.

[@NiaMakiReacts]

Oooooooh ok thank you for the context with the feel of the times too! I think with this movie I didn’t go into it with the right mindset/expectations so I was caught off guard. That’s a shame though that the other movies just became toy commercials though :(

[@alejandro0100000]

This version oh the Penguin has fussed digits better know as Syndactyly. That is why the hand look like a flipper.

[@GarrettJayChristian]

Interesting since polydactyly is relatively common in tabby cats...

[@NiaMakiReacts]

Ooooooooooh!!!!!

[@ItApproaches]

Funny how they had to take apart the Batmobile a bit when in the end all they did was stuck a device o the bottom...

[@Natedawgg84]

The Batman Returns was considered too dark for kids. But the adults loved it. So the next movie Batman Forever (1995) has a whole new family kid friendly vibe to it for better or worse, you decide lol!

[@alexisprojects]

I feel like this movie gave you whiplash. Danny Elfman did the music - does a lot of Tim Burton films. He's a great composer. I get what you mean by too many moving parts, but I love Catwoman in this so much. It's why I love this movie. In my opinion, Michelle stole the film. Though Danny fought her for it!

[@benschultz1784]

This movie is what happens when you give Tim Burton full creative control. The backlash from parents and corporate concerns (McDonald's for one) led to WB pulling the plug on Burton doing the next one and handing the reins to Joel Schumacher.

[@NiaMakiReacts]

What was Mc Donald’s issue with this?! He didn’t cast Ronald??

[@benschultz1784]

@NiaMakiReacts They pulled their Happy Meal toy line last minute due to all the sexual content. Hasbro did the same thing, and the lost revenue hit WB hard.

[@jaysonrainey8180]

😂​@@NiaMakiReacts

[@Stevarooni]

Catwoman's origin story being Toxiplasmosis is hilarious! 😄

[@NiaMakiReacts]

You never know 😂

[@jlhanlon1980]

Let me just say this, if you're going to watch a comic book movie, you have to remember to take the comic book source material serious. If you don't understand the characters, laughing doesn't negate it.

[@leonsam12]

Please continue the Batman franchise hell yeah let’s go!!!🦇🤘

[@NiaMakiReacts]

absolutely!

[@jlhanlon1980]

This is my favorite non traditional Christmas movie.

[@dcemerald70]

First, an amazing reaction. The way I see it, Penguin was practically the evil take on Moses. Like Moses, he was placed in a basket then placed in the river and founded by a new family. He knew who is parents were, but wanted revenge for being cast out by them and society. The original plan was to kill the current generation firstborn male children, but then he decided to kill everyone when Batman foiled his plot. When he dies, you feel sympathy, because it all started with him having vainful parents. When the cats surround Selina and bite on her, she gets 8 additional lives, signifying her fall out the window the lost of one. She is more of an antihero; she only kills if it is necessary or just. That’s why her and Bruce are similar yet different. They did fall in love, and Bruce attempted to try to calm her. He really wanted to help her recover from the trauma. However, Selina couldn’t reconcile with her chance to not kill Max. She felt like that she already crossed that line between good and evil. That’s why Michelle Pfeiffer is hands down the best Catwoman. Also Michelle did put the bird in her mouth for reals and when she whipped the mannequin heads off, that was done in one take as well. 🦇🐈‍⬛🐧🖤💜💛

[@myajanell2504]

did a great job with Selina's character and great pick for batman😍 Michael couldn't be better will and always be batman not the others. And yes Nia with the uncomfortableness in that scene😳🤣

[@ItApproaches]

Catwoman is a Batman character yes.

[@LordVolkov]

Batman Returns is my favorite live-action Batman (with Batman Forever not far behind). It has such divided tones - black & white, cold & hawt 😳, surface & underground - that it really fits Batman's divided psyche (more on that in the next movie 😉), as well as Catwoman, and also Penguin's 'two-faced' attempt at politics. The interpretations of Penguin and Catwoman really make the movie for me. Penguin is a sewer monster (akin to another Batman rogue Killer Croc) and Catwoman is a revenant (an undead driven by revenge), vastly different from their usual backstories but wildly interesting depictions.

[@NiaMakiReacts]

Ahhh I need to keep his themes in mind, I was thrown off a bit by the chaos 😂

[@starlord3496]

Let’s Go Legend

[@JayPadrig]

Can’t Touch This was made from Superfreak

[@mikethemotormouth]

Nothing to do with Sci-fi Sundays. This is because today is December 1st and this is a Christmas classic along with Nightmare Before Christmas and Grumpy Old Men

[@positivelynegative9149]

41:35 I'm proud of you. 😄👍

[@p.mc.4449]

Is a Batman Returns Catwoman costume in Nia's Halloween future? 😁 You might like Mr. Mom with Michael Keaton.

[@myajanell2504]

omg right😍🤣

[@bats70]

I love this movie so much its very dark but I love the cast and Burtons gothic vision and Catwoman did have only 1 motivation in the film to get her revenge on Max but she is more of an anti hero because she cant make up her mind to be good or bad. She lashes out at both men and women in the film because she feels victimized and Batman was trying to help her but he failed to bring her back to the light. Danny did a great job as Penguin 🐧🐧🦇🦇🐈

[@Tempest_Elixir]

20:25 😂😂😂

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

Wait until you see Batman forever

[@NiaMakiReacts]

It’s gonna be on the next poll I think, I’m hearing great things about it!

[@Nichole-1989]

This is the BEST Batman movie in my personal opinion.

[@fightingidiocy7724]

This is the WORST Batman movie in my personal opinion.

[@jaysonrainey8180]

​@fightingidiocy7724 that's batman and robin

[@newfrontierfilms6314]

I don’t think you paid close enough attention to the film. All the pieces are there.

[@yorky1982]

My favorite Christmas movie.😊 WB gave Tim Burton free range to do whatever he wants With comic books superheroes That's what he did it's Burton Film that happened to have Batman on it. Parent weren't happy to see a Batman movie with Penguin bitting a nose of a man. Catwoman in top of Batman licking his lips. McDonald's was loosing $ because of the dark scenery that Burton gave Batman. To much for Kid's eyes to see. That's why we got the campy Batman forever and Batman & Robin. But everything happy for a reason Who knows if we didn't had the of The Dark Knight Trilogy.

[@gmoneyak]

An easy Top 3 Movie Soundtrack for me...

[@NiaMakiReacts]

Yessssss!!! The soundtrack was fantastic

[@kunserndsittizen2655]

BATCHEEKS

[@-Devy-]

I love this movie but I just couldn't watch this. Sitting through an hour of you being confused by literally everything, even thought these things are super basic Batman knowledge, just doesn't seem like a good time.

[@NiaMakiReacts]

all good homie!

[@damaniqphillip2756]

Wow

[@dazedandconfusedconfused9500]

You said you don't want any mental image of him filling voids. With what, his nose?

[@NiaMakiReacts]

… new fear unlocked 😩

[@coolgareth101]

As a man, I've got to say that once Selina Kyle owns her sexual side (as a childless cat woman, so to speak), my toes start to curl. She's found a source of power, and even Batman feels it, but it's chaotic. She affects men, but she "deeply resents" them at the same time. So she's constantly in a push-pull. The more she likes someone, the more the desire to destroy him. And, of course, Max Shrek is her symbol of every way that the patriarchy uses and demeans women, as well the cause of her personal turmoil. The role could NOT have been played any better. And I'd say the same about Danny de Vito. He really revels in being disgusting. Finally, did you get the Biblical parallels? Moses abandoned in the Nile, floating in a reed basket? The death of the first-born sons in Egypt?

[@73uproc]

That movie is soooo Horney

[@JayPadrig]

This movie is counted among the greatest superhero sequels ever made. Part of that has to do with the sexual overtones, even though the subject matter is normally supposed to be for kids. A lot of this movie is ridiculously over the top but in a good way. The next two Batman movies, unfortunately do it very very badly! Son will argue that part3 was better than 4, but I think they both stink, especially what they did to my hero Arnold Schwarzenegger- put him up against my least favorite actor, George Clooney and made him just say a bunch of lame ice/ cold jokes to destroy his reputation of the best one liners in the action business! Anyway, I would stop here

[@vincentwilliams71]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@Codyg4444]

You should watch shutter

[@sageof7627]

@41:30 girl, stop...😅😂

[@NiaMakiReacts]

👀 👀

[@sjw4life546]

45:47 MA'AM!

[@NiaMakiReacts]

👀 👀

[@positivelynegative9149]

19:15 He ate a cat before he could walk. 🤣

[@yournamehere6002]

16:13 Number two is slang for SHIT

[@jeanblue8424]

This is the type of annoying reaction you get from someone who grew up watching things like Cinema Sins. Just for your information films have creative licence and not EVERY DETAIL needs to be explained like you like you are a toddler. You are missing the journey by focusing far too much on insignificant minor details.

[@madebymali6758]

Her opinion is valid

[@fightingidiocy7724]

it's terrible. Tim Burton fever dream.

[@andersthomsen3409]

16:15 - Well everybody goes number two, Nia...

[@NiaMakiReacts]

😂

[@THEBLACCZOMBI]

The DC Comics movies really take nose dive from here especially in the 90's but they are worth watching (I had the Batman movies on tape). I think you'll really enjoy the Synder movies (Man of Steel, Batman v Superman: Ultimate Edition, Zack Snyder's Justice League)

[@yournamehere6002]

"I am Catwoman, Hear me roar" is a play on a song called "I AM WOMAN"

[@albertjimeno5315]

Plus I mean cat is a cousin to lions, tigers, jaguars, etc, all which roar.

[@yournamehere6002]

@@albertjimeno5315 yeah, that wasn't the reason she said it though. The lyric is "I AM WOMAN/HEAR ME ROAR/IN NUMBERS TOO BIG TO IGNORE"

[@albertjimeno5315]

@yournamehere6002 I think it’s because of both things tbh.

[@frenchynoob]

You gotta keep in mind... Batman is a comic book. Ya know... for children...

[@NiaMakiReacts]

Yeah after watching this, I was given the better context. I think I saw Batman more like an emo Ironman, and I can’t picture Ironman doing anything like this

[@frenchynoob]

​@@NiaMakiReacts nah that makes perfect sense, I didn't mean to sound snarky or anything. Ironman is a good example: that movie was made with the express purpose of being "a believable superhero movie", which was kind of a new thing at the time (arguably); that was almost two decades after this movie, completely different era. I grew up with the Burton movies as my definitive Live Action Batman, but for a newcomer in 2024 it DOES look like crazy nonsense, because... it is. Arguably even by comic book standard!

[@daytrippera]

Comic books for children... you writing that definitely proved you know 0 about comic books.

[@frenchynoob]

@@daytrippera uh oh, we got a Dark Knight Returns fanboy pissing his pants over here, huh?

[@daytrippera]

@frenchynoob I'm a woman, and pointing out a fact has nothing to do with what I am or not. Also, wtf has Dark.Knight trilogy movies with believing comic books are just for kids? Your IQ must be single digit.

[@brandonshepherd7477]

You so fine.

[@NiaMakiReacts]

💕