Meet Anthony Esposito and Rob Sanders - Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott - Ep. 130

Meet the team behind Jason’s award-winning KZbin videos on this special episode of The Carmudgeon Show.
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In this special episode, we get to know Anthony Esposito and Rob Sanders, the director and editor behind Jason Cammisa’s multiple-award-winning KZbin car videos.
Cammisa and Esposito have been working together since Jason joined Motor Trend in 2015. Sanders joined the team shortly thereafter and the Three Stooges have traveled together from Motor Trend to ISSIMI and to Hagerty.
The team’s content won EIGHT Telly awards last year - in addition to a Webby, and so far, two International Motor Film Awards - and is widely regarded as the highest-quality automotive content on KZbin.
In this episode, Anthony and Rob share behind-the-scenes war-stories about things that have gone wrong on shoots, including Jason smashing up cars or just being a jerk to unsuspecting hotel staff. (Only to have instant karma bite him in the ass.)
We learn about Rob and Anthony’s previous cars, what makes them tick - and just generally have a good laugh.
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[@ilya__t]

1:44:09 Derek's just contemplating his life choices. He could have been squatting for 2 hours instead, but here he is. Just a silent witness to the exuberance of life.

[@WoodAndSteel92]

Think of all the rear window wipers Derek could've been looking at 🥲

[@Schmitzelhaus]

@@WoodAndSteel92 😆👌

[@nickzhang7862]

It’s nice to learn behind the scenes but let’s just say I’d still be watching if Jason made a farming show

[@carstenschroder7054]

😂😂😂😂 Jason C. Our man in....😂😂😂😂

[@Bobby_Blob]

I'd watch that. Jason and Hyphen in Japan or something That would be glorious @@carstenschroder7054

[@arthurs7882]

TANOYT JASON MILKS A COW HYPHEN MOVES DIRT

[@Kalepsis]

One of my favorite Throttle House videos is the one where Cammisa just randomly cameos (while inexplicably raking a driveway, I think?) And screams, "Wait! I haven't been on KZbin in two years!"

[@MrTheTrafalgar]

I remember only the x7 intro one. Which episode was that? Plsplspls

[@Kalepsis]

​@@MrTheTrafalgarThe one where the BMW is playing ads before it'll let AndImJames use any of the features, and the ad is Cammisa listing off all the horrible, debilitating side-effects of some drug? Yeah, that was great. I don't remember which car Thomas and James were reviewing in the other one, all I remember is that it was Jason's first appearance back on KZbin after leaving Motor Trend, before he started with Issimi. And I laughed my ass off. My guess is that he had a non-compete clause from MT that he had to wait out.

[@drewwrobel564]

Watching both Derek and Anthony go full Rainman on exhaust notes was epic!

[@Heyitsallgoodman]

When 60% of the comments on a Hagerty video is "give these editors a raise!" "Best editing/production quality ever" you can drop the link to the podcast.

[@rahulmenon6073]

woah .... 2 Jasons 1 car collab teaser @ 46:19 was a mindf***. Jake's subtle editing skills shine as always

[@mrgreasypig]

This is the real content I watch for hah

[@matthewpeterson3329]

MORE OF THIS! 2 hours whipped by. Rob was a total sweetheart of a. Dude. Espo was not what i expected, but a lot of fun. Derek was an introvert... i love ya, buddy. And Jason hogged the show, as we expect him to, and dont really mind either. I would love to see this group together annually to rag about the year's exploits. Too fun, gonna start it over again right now.

[@christopherjohnston6343]

I would watch a bonus episode of Anthony just identifying cars from audio and you guys just nerding out about stuff.

[@lowstrife]

46:15 I don't know how many people are going to catch that, but whoever did that (Jake, or Rob), well done lololol

[@mihailatanasov3808]

That was absolutely hillarious 😃😃

[@brandonchism6960]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🎉🎉🎉 for Jake. That was brilliant

[@g60corrado91]

I was dying of laughter.

[@sauwercraud]

This was the best Carmudgeon Episode so far (until Piech). Could have only been topped by Derek ripping his Shirt apart :)

[@willvanhouten8998]

Derek is an underrated comedian

[@deathcab4booty]

46:15 rivals the Pontiac Endurance Test for best thing ever on the Carmudgeon show

[@ahmadjavedaj]

So glad to have Anthony and Rob make an appearance. Man it was hilarious Cammisa and Johnny fighting were some of the best memories of Motortrend. Also Jake excellent work ! Edit: Should have gone for another hour just to torture Derek!

[@zodiacmanan]

Such a crowded room! Happy to see the whole gang!

[@Kalepsis]

You need to bring back Proper Care and Feeding. Those little automotive vignettes were some of your best content.

[@wesleyrice2138]

i enjoyed those too!

[@chuck.bagels]

Best episode yet! At the end of the day, it's not the car talk, it's embarrassing Jason that makes this one stand above the rest. And, while Derek's bladder could barely handle it, the longer run time was throughly enjoyed and appreciated.

[@davidr1368]

I'm *sure* this was coincidence, but I love that this episode and its focus follows the TST/Cammisa "Clear Air" podcast on the Cybertruck, which did include some (actually, very sincere) discussion on the sad nature of the social media landscape of scripted, high-quality production videos (which, hats off to you *and* Hagerty for making it happen) versus "lower quality," unscripted, high-output media on various platforms (lots more I could say there, but IYKYK ; -). Regardless, so nice to see the talent behind the camera lenses - keep it up, please!!!

[@vercingetorige400]

an unbelievable good clap from hypen

[@olneydetail1487]

I occasionally forgot hyphen was there.

[@gregdeschodt9346]

This is like being in a room with good friends, even though we're just viewers.. It's cool...Thanks for sharing ! Hard to imagine the crazy amount of work that goes into these.

[@OdyTypeR]

Omg so many good moments, thank you! The magic of this team is that you take your work seriously, but you don't take yourselves seriously. At all. 😁 27:10 - 27:20 This says everything one needs to know to understand that Rob Sanders is a legend. And perfect for this team. Its like the post-postmodern take on Ben Burtt's legacy. I laughed so hard i almost Sgt. Wilhelmed in my pants.😂

[@keith6360]

I knew that Jason's team were film nerds! To be able to translate to video, with a limited budget, what he has to say without actually saying it is a big ask. So happy to see the team behind the videos. These guys deserve as much credit. I wish Jason will bring these guys in whatever he does and I hope they get compensated more to be able to do more of these! That award was well deserved. I hope Anthony and Rob can be regular guest every few months or so. Kudos to everyone!

[@donschiffer7400]

If it makes Jason feel better I did almost the exact same thing at a hotel in Kentucky. I was shooting an event, walked in with my assistant and 8 bags, argued with the woman at the desk only to find out we were supposed to be at their competitors hotel on the other side of the courtyard. All this at 11pm after a 9 hour drive to get there. I went back the next day and apologized.

[@vercingetorige400]

happy to see the come back of the sortablurryvision

[@Skooby59]

I wonder if they realize we’d listen to these shows for HOURS!

[@Schmitzelhaus]

I´m not exactly sure why, but i believe this was one of my absolute favorite episodes of all time. Those 2 hours FLEW by quite literally! 👌

[@david.mcmahan]

Wrong hotel is one of the best stories told on this show! (And there have been some awesome stories.)

[@clawsnugget]

Why the hell didn’t we get to meet jake

[@dougstewart5665]

As someone with nearly 40 years in TV production, the Cammisa/Esposito videos are some of the best I've ever seen. The first two minutes of the Toyota Supra video were amazing and I was hooked. It was great to get a look at the behind the scenes. I'd love to see you all hit the road, and I can only imagine what would have come about if you had recorded the trip to get the Rover. Looking forward to seeing more from you all.

[@mihailatanasov3808]

This episode is incredible, finaly the pieces fall on their places and you understand how it all began!

[@NoahBB]

This is one of my favourite episodes of all time. Great length, great guests, funny and interesting stories. My only regret is not listening to this episode sooner!

[@brandonchism6960]

So I went from giving Jason his flowers to respecting and applauding the work that Anthony does as well in my comments. Thanks for also giving me a name and face to shout out/applaud in the editing with Rob. The work you guys do is truly immaculate, appreciated by all of us that have followed Jason through his career, and something so different from every other car content producer that I go into the vids now just looking to learn something versus hearing a review. From the bottom of my heart, Thank you all!!! You have a lifetime fan of your work.

[@CrazyDavy22]

That hotel story was hilarious 🤣

[@evalonious]

Damn, and I thought Jason and Derek shot everything with their I phones. 😂❤🏁

[@ThePwig]

It's great to see the other key players on the team. Y'all have a great rapport and working relationship! You're so lucky to have found each other

[@0o0ification]

Honestly, the title "Revelations" really did hook me, when paired with the car selection and connection. Also, hilarious edit for the TV source fiasco. A fun, different episode for the podcast, thx

[@akshaysankarshana2405]

I don't care how much hard work it is, but I would wanna work behind the scenes of any of these big ICONS episodes.

[@dmytrotonitsoi]

It’s okay to slightly close the aperture so that everything is in focus

[@drewwrobel564]

Finally the REAL talent!

[@fraserwright9482]

1:05:05 It seems simple and this encapsulates it.

[@_que]

Appreciate your efforts on my addiction to cars. Thank you, take a break and waiting for "P" episode whenever it happens

[@mrgreasypig]

We need to see a formal quiz with Anthony and engine noises. We could put together a quiz and each of you can take it and then compare answers.

[@rosskgilmour]

who's rewatching anthony's back catalog for fart noises?

[@TheCarmudgeonShow]

Cammisa is right now.

[@pavankamineni2470]

Please put both the guest's names on the wall.

[@davidraezer5937]

I have a question if the work you do and the people you work with is fun and entertaining is it really considered work? I had that experience when I was a younger technician. Yes there were times when you pulled your hair out but I so much enjoyed learning new technology and the diagnostic part I never considered it work and my hobby continued to be with cars. Your enthusiasm and the way you interact with each other is what makes these shows so enjoyable to watch. Anthony I agree Firemist is one of the best R129 colors which is why I bought a 99 in Firemist when I saw the classified ad.

[@anthonyesposito4872]

Shhhhh! Don't ask completely reasonable rhetorical questions like that. I have my employer (and more importantly my wife) absolutely convinced I'm working quite hard when I'm out filming our episodes! Also, the R129 I bought that flashes up on screen isn't actually Firemist, it's Crimson metallic. To be fair, the two colors look almost identical and both colors are equally amazing.

[@kochj23]

I haven't cared much for the few episodes that have been more than the two of you as you two are magic as a duo. Of course, who cares what I think but the "inside baseball" of this episode makes this one of my favorites. Thank you for continuing to produce my favorite KZbin content.

[@garyonnen7634]

Pure joy watching this.

[@jono6379]

Thanks for organising this its been a long time coming. Really interesting to hear what goes on behind the scenes.

[@akshaysankarshana2405]

More of this, please! More 2hr long episodes, More Guests, More BTS, More RNG Car Reviews, More, More, More! (Wait.... Why does that make me sound like an Italian Opera Singer? WHAT THE FFFFF......) Would love to see an episode of Best Sounding Cars with Anthony identifying them.

[@JamieValente]

I was going to ask on the next Q&A episode about accidents you guys have had. Glad I got a hilarious explanation from the crew. 😂

[@tonyflorio3269]

The editing of Jason's comment here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWOblHicfpllpM0si=f6VuAq4YwpgWlIpj&t=831 (answering the "Internet was sad when you guys broke up") is ... odd? It seems like he might have said "I wasn't" but it got clipped in the edit. His commentary elsewhere implies that working for Motor Trend wasn't a wholly positive experience.

[@TheCarmudgeonShow]

Ha, nothing salacious meant by that. I did say "I wasn't," and it's right there in the edit!

[@JasenDelgado]

Its a shame that Ignition Episode 138 that Jason first starred in with the yellow 981 GT4 isn't on youtube. Great car and review that should be on youtube for everyone to see!

[@fedemav1]

It was great to meet Anthony and Rob, I loved the anecdotes, the only bad thing about their content is that I would like to see more but I understand that it is a huge production effort. Keep it up and greetings to the 4 of you.

[@taylorhoward2165]

I remember seeing that scratch on the Motortrend GT350 episode!!!! So glad you guys talked about that!

[@clinttube]

Sooo when Piëch-isode? You've hyped it up enough now that I'm not going to be satisfied without a resurrection and in-person interview...

[@mtlsi]

Thank you for this episode in which you let us in on all the hard work that goes into making and production of your videos. It makes me appreciate them even more.

[@narek_kona302]

This is giving me full Top gear memories how the trio are always with Andy Wilman

[@ducbox572]

Some of the best Top Gear episodes where their epic trips. Across Africa, Viet Nam, the Amazon jungle, to name three. Understand the budget is big for that kind of episode, but I understand the desire to produce one.

[@michaelking6596]

Great show as always, and great to.understand the process for the show and the evolution of the concepts and techniques. The continuous raising of the bar in terms of the story telling, cinematography and effects is an obvious result of postmortem analysis and so glad you seek improvement and evolution Now... For all of us outside the USA and UK who can't support you by joining the HDC get the option of a hagerty enthusiasts club membership and pay to get the magazine and help bankroll your productions

[@Kocan7]

One of the best episodes in a while, thanks, , I loved it.

[@bluetoes591]

This was the best two hours of nonesense I've listened to in a long, lomg, time. As a person who is autistic, and a car nerd, and a film school graduate, and former film industry professional, this was all up my alley. Love all the details from behind the scenes.

[@joecutro7318]

Fastest 2 hours talking about fast cars I have ever experienced

[@griffins750]

Glad we finally got to meet them! Can’t watch rn (work am I right?!😅), but this will be great for my commute home! Much love from PA ❤👍

[@davevan9150]

It's about time!

[@ryanrobinson2401]

I saw Anthony’s QP5 come up for sale. I was very interested but it sold quickly. It was an amazing spec.

[@anthonyesposito4872]

Thank you! I genuinely miss it already.

[@SuryaDe]

This was an amazing episode. Thanks for sharing all the behind the scenes stuff. I was wishing this episode just kept going!

[@shingoose6197]

Jake, you owe me a new sandwich because I spat mine out laughing during the the 2 Jason's 1 car bit! 😂

[@PedroPedroPedro-Pedro-Pe]

That has been fantastic :DDDD I love 99.99% of these but oh boy was this episode a gem!

[@BFWRT]

2 hours well spent. Thanks

[@user-zz7ic8dv4h]

Very cool of you to share the credit with Anthony and Robert. Your work has been amazing and getting better EVERY time. Thank you

[@nickzhang7862]

Glad I can listen to a new episode on way to work, lessen the Monday hardness

[@_0O0O0O0_]

I enjoyed hearing about the process, worts and all. You guys do amazing work. I use it as reference with the team I work with.

[@davevan9150]

Verified nobody behind the camera as Derrick is blocked most of the time.

[@BipulSandhu]

Its a crime not to link up all the videos they are talking about in the description.

[@philbegas]

I had a s60r volvo too, fucking loved it and honestly a great manual transmission!

[@evalonious]

Since this is a rag on Jason episode 😂❤ I just watched the Jay Leno Scirocco episode. Amazing video, but the very end Jay's comment about Jason's voice squeaking when talking to Leno. Well, it is Leno. 😂 This was really a great episode and I enjoyed meeting the dudes. Hard work for sure, really appreciate the content. Now 👏- ton

[@vercingetorige400]

such a shame that he drove always in a straightline, but i get why all his question about making it faster and only faster

[@pvtcmyers87]

Hey bring anthony and around any time! You guys were an absolute riot.

[@dazlion2]

Really enjoyed the stories, I'm hoping for a part 2

[@CrazyDavy22]

“MAZERATY KWATROPORTAY” is the official spelling as of 2024.

[@clawsnugget]

I want an anthony test episode where the viewers can send in clips and then Anthony has to guess the car

[@6rimR3ap3r]

Never thought I'd see Adam Sandler and Arnold Schwarzenegger together on Hagerty.

[@michaelteret4763]

Not nearly enough DTS in this episode.

[@AlainSTO]

Hey Anthony, you should know I really love whenever I see the ND2 in the videos, so keep doing what you're doing.

[@ruturaj47]

I loved know it all episodes.

[@maverickphantom005]

Nice to finally meet the Team; to put faces to their names.

[@user-cz8qu8do4z]

That was a great show, thanks!

[@JK061996]

On a similar note to Jason's address mishap I once helped my younger brother fill out the online application for his high school. Too bad I wrote my own name instead of his and he only found out at the class attendance

[@kylelanger8611]

This was great fun

[@johnsterfer5906]

Fun to know that the cogs behind the scenes that help make Jason's content a step above everyone else have owned the B6/7 platform (I don't own an S4 but at least it's an ultrasport)

[@tiredoworking9350]

The wrong hotel!!! LMAO!!!

[@poolmann1681]

Loved that episode!

[@kwisin1337]

I love the pre and post filming, you guys rock. Ps, i call it dis'lexis. Lol...

[@SirPierreSe]

WONDERFUL Episode! =)

[@johnsandow2751]

I would love to see y’all film one at VIR.

[@chanceification]

Can all episodes be at least 2 hours one hour seems to always fly by 2 hours is perfect

[@vercingetorige400]

know it all was a blast

[@Lachiewich]

I didn’t realise I needed a two hour episode, and now I realise that all episodes need to be two hour episodes…

[@ALR74]

Derick is the only one that tested negative for the clap. 😂

[@kaeserd]

This episode is awesome but we need a dedicated blooper video.

[@nickyang1143]

Ok, this one's going into the rewatch list

[@carsaregood911]

I guessed it was a 5.0 Gallardo as well, would love to see an entire episode on this. Would be a good way for us to test ourselves too.

[@istvanlorinczi2817]

1:33:42 You guys need to do this more on these episodes