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Meet The BRAINWASHED CHEETAH | Wonder Woman VS Debbi Domaine

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Wonder Woman is one of the DC Comics trinity alongside Batman and Superman. One of her more iconic villains is the Cheetah. Come meet the bronze age Cheetah and discover her connection to Kobra, and Priscilla Rich here on Casually Comics.
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@Sunstar808
@Sunstar808 4 жыл бұрын
Wonder Woman writers: Let’s change Cheetah out cause she’s only human & Diana is ageless. Meanwhile Joker, Penguin, the Riddler are 80 years old looking spry.
@ViccVegaa023
@ViccVegaa023 4 жыл бұрын
It was always assumed that the Batman of Earth 2 (the Golden Age Batman) Rogue's Gallery was identical to the modern Batman's. The only real difference being everyone on Earth 2 being at least 20 years older and Earth 2's Catwoman reformed, married Bruce Wayne and had an daughter with him. I do wonder what happened to the Golden Age Batman's other Rogues. Did they retire? Die in Jail? Or were they still trying to commit crimes as 80+ year old men (with an embarrassed Adult Robin having to subdue them!)? "It's time to go back to jail, Mr. Riddler." "Oh look, it's the Boy Wonder!" "I'm 50, Mr. Riddler." "...."
@Sunstar808
@Sunstar808 4 жыл бұрын
ViccVegaa023 👍😂
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
ViccVegaa023 i love that story
@ArakkoaChronicles
@ArakkoaChronicles 4 жыл бұрын
@@ViccVegaa023 Unfortunately, we don't know much about the original Golden Age Earth-Two at its later years. We know Bruce Wayne eventually dropped the cowl and there were new villains running around and one of them killed him in the end. But then the original Golden Age Earth was wiped out in the Crisis on Infinite Earths and the story did not continue.
@TJ52359
@TJ52359 4 жыл бұрын
I think because WW is 'ageless' her rogues passing the torch, and gaining legacy Villains makes sense as a way to highlight that agelessness... whereas Batman forever being between 25 & 40 (outside of Beyond or 'Dark Knight Returns' inspired jumps forward) requires a 'sliding scale'
@Isaac-vq9gw
@Isaac-vq9gw 4 жыл бұрын
I really do hope this means we're getting a full series going over each of the Cheetahs.
@fiorefiore9910
@fiorefiore9910 4 жыл бұрын
- 1st Cheetah: hates a person she used to like because she's envious - 2nd Cheetah: was (allegedly) hitting on a woman with super strength and she got abused/tortured into hating people and becoming a villain - 3rd Cheetah: is a feline human hybrid - All the Cheetas: occasionally make cat noises That's official, The Cheetah was the original Catra
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Fiore Fiore you could say that again
4 жыл бұрын
This is now a *fact* and you can´t convince me otherwise.
@ExeErdna
@ExeErdna 4 жыл бұрын
LMAO this is canon now
@Ry-kd2uc
@Ry-kd2uc 4 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling she would get along well with Poison Ivy
@Highline_29_Designs
@Highline_29_Designs 3 жыл бұрын
For sure
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Жыл бұрын
@@Highline_29_Designs yes because did you know the original concept of the Legion of Doom being originally called the League of evil which would be lead by Dr Sivana?
@Kitsaplorax
@Kitsaplorax 4 жыл бұрын
I can read cursive. WW could also read shorthand. She was a WWII secretary.
@karenstarr
@karenstarr 4 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who wanted to know about power girl and huntress on the bottom of the comic cover? What was their side story about?
@mark-s
@mark-s 4 жыл бұрын
Huntress was a back up story for about 2 years in the back up of the wonder woman comic which was set on earth 2
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 4 жыл бұрын
Saya dubre, you are not the only one. Perhaps Sasha will tell us in a future video.
@karenstarr
@karenstarr 4 жыл бұрын
@@mark-s I know about backup stories. Zatanna had them in Supergirl's comics from the 70s. I just want to know more about it.
@mark-s
@mark-s 4 жыл бұрын
@@karenstarr in 1980 certain minor characters appeared in back up stories in main superheros comics to boost sales the earth 2 huntress was chosen for wonder woman comic starting in issue 271 and ended in issue 286 end of 1981 it was also one of huntress last story run before her earth 2 version was wiped out in the crisis and by the late 80s she was reintroduced in her own series
@karenstarr
@karenstarr 4 жыл бұрын
@@mark-s seriously dude read my comments before you mansplain to me. I said I already know about them!
@jesss917
@jesss917 4 жыл бұрын
The Canadian goose thing cracked me up. Definitely had some flashbacks to being attacked by hissing, angry Canadian geese running at me with their wings spread wide open. The horror. The horror.
@user-zm4ro7yh4e
@user-zm4ro7yh4e 4 жыл бұрын
Poor Cheetah II, got shelfed hard. May she come back in some throwaway reference.
@bleukat
@bleukat 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Kobra brainwashing department have only the one setting, super villain. Can the stop like a smoking addiction? Help one actually go to the gym they signed up for? (A before time thing) or help pass college exams?
@geoffreybayer1571
@geoffreybayer1571 4 жыл бұрын
Psycho Kitty Lessee, they can make you stop smoking. If you won't, they shoot you. An you better make ur gym date- or they'll shoot you. An if you didn't pass college? They'll chain ur nose to the grindstone- an if u try to get away, they'll shoot you. Kobra isn't the most forgiving bunch around.
@vertiginousone2477
@vertiginousone2477 4 жыл бұрын
Debbi got short shrift. She sadly only appeared in 2 stories during her tenure as Cheetah. I liked her design far more than the golden age Cheetah because her tail was not at all fluffy and her hair was gorgeous. I wish Debbi had gotten more time in the spotlight and I desperately hope she is brought back/retconned/flashedback/time-jumped or anything and becomes a formidable character.
@michaellangwaller
@michaellangwaller 4 жыл бұрын
I was not too impressed with this version of Cheetah, she lost her agency, she was now someone else's tool. Even the original had some say in the matter of her villainy as it was a sorta split personality. I have never understood the how earlier Cheetahs were supposed to hold their own against Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman is super-powered, the earlier Cheetahs were just people in suits and not even enhanced suits. Wonder Woman had to be holding back.
@Bolsonaro_em_Haia
@Bolsonaro_em_Haia 4 жыл бұрын
I never understood that either, but WW power levels pre-Byrne run were always all over the place. In this particular stance we at least have a credible reason to believe that WW is holding back because she knows that there is a well meaning person behind all the rage and fury.
@tkillcoin
@tkillcoin 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, and well put. In the features for "Wonder Woman: Bloodlines", screenwriter Mairghread Scott said she chose to have Barbara Ann Minerva take a serum that enhanced her even further, made her more animalistic, and less pretty. The outward transformation mirrored what had already taken place on the inside, but more importantly, Minerva had agency in affecting that change and embracing her darkness without apology. Even the slight retcon to Priscilla Rich takes away an important characteristic of her as a villain. If the Cheetah in the mirror is a manifestation of Rich's inner monologue that she's actively been trying to suppress, then (petty or not) her jealousy as a motivation for her crimes is hers, you can see how it works, and it's a perfect idea for someone like Diana to fight against. If what she sees in the mirror is a second personality, then Priscilla isn't really involved, and Wonder Woman is just beating up a lady who is mentally ill. Deborah Domaine gets it even worse. Her beloved(?) aunt dies right in front of her, and she's so startled that she's knocked unconscious, she wakes up just long enough to be tortured, and then presumably she's erased and replaced with The Cheetah. Ouch.
@mark-s
@mark-s 4 жыл бұрын
I agree the second cheetah was the weakest version of the cheetah I liked the original and the new Barbara Minerva version but this was a second rate more poorly written character most of her appearances was forgettable
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Waller I know because Wonder Woman seems to powerful any of her rouges
@kemmdog4444
@kemmdog4444 4 жыл бұрын
Debra is going for the Josie and the Pussycats look.
@JKXYGolden
@JKXYGolden 4 жыл бұрын
I always found Deborah really tragic... if I remember correctly, by the time Kobra was defeated her mental trauma was irreversible, and she ended up being sent off to spend the rest of her life in Arkham Asylum. Although that DOES raise the question of how a Wonder Woman villain gets sentenced to a Gotham City psychiatric facility... does the entire DC Universe just ship their crazy villains off to Gotham? Because that would explain a lot about that town.
@GenerationWest
@GenerationWest 4 жыл бұрын
2nd Cheetah: I'm completely forgotten, but at least I look good in this suit. Yeah, I can cursive, I took cursive in 3rd grade, and a bit in the 4th, and that's about it, my class must've been last ones to learn, because the past 17 years afterwardhas been "We stopped learning cursive".
@uncleben2237
@uncleben2237 4 жыл бұрын
Canadian Geese Casually Comics’ worst enemy
@OkMakuTree
@OkMakuTree 4 жыл бұрын
She’s alright, but the original Cheetah is just too funny. When your “good” side is an attempted murder (over pettiness, no less) there really is no hope for you.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын
She's like Norman Osborn where it's less good side and evil side and more evil side and even worse side.
@SimonMoon5
@SimonMoon5 3 жыл бұрын
For me, the second Cheetah is the "real" Cheetah just because she started out when I was beginning to read comics. For me, it's a shame not to mention her other appearances, such as when she was a member of the version of the Secret Society of Super-Villains formed by the Ultra-Humanite that fought the JLA and JSA in a JLA/JSA crossover. And one thing that the first two Cheetahs have over all the others... at least they're not running around naked. Also, I think this Cheetah's creation is a precursor of Strikeforce Kobra, where Kobra decided to create a bunch of supervillains with the same codename as a bunch of old Batman villains. So Kobra can just do that. He just create any supervillain with any powers whenever he wants. He wasn't even just duplicating the powers that the old villains had; the new villains are often completely different. So, yeah, that's a thing he can do.
@anthonylewis3223
@anthonylewis3223 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your new baby, also I'm jealous of your kids because they get to here you read bedtime stories in the characters voices.
@HandofOmega
@HandofOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Oh Cobras in this?! GI Joe crossover! Seriously I know what Kobra is, but would love to see a video about groups like hydra and how they're related ( also came for the superheroing, stayed for the sitcom dating tropes!)
@ArakkoaChronicles
@ArakkoaChronicles 4 жыл бұрын
I know pretty much nothing about the Wonder Woman mythos, so it's always completely fresh to me when I see videos on it. The only Cheetah I knew was the Minerva one.
@aqacefan
@aqacefan 4 жыл бұрын
6:30 That much clumsiness, and it's *not* Hal Jordan? Pretty hard to believe that there could be more than one DCU person who's that inept...
@daniellindgren3754
@daniellindgren3754 4 жыл бұрын
I like Debbi in the way that she was the Cheetah at the time of CoIE. People remember Priscilla because she was the first and Barbara because she's the Post-Crisis Cheetah/current Cheetah, but Debbi has been involved in a lot of great Wonder Woman moments imho that get forgotten.
@kingdomcomesuperman3669
@kingdomcomesuperman3669 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, I like to watch my comics instead of reading them. Also, I still can read cursive writing with ease, it wasn't in my curriculum but it's still manageable
@HandofOmega
@HandofOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait till Mancheetah! LOL
@nathanlees8657
@nathanlees8657 4 жыл бұрын
I loved your first Cheetah vid! Especially when you read along with the comics.
@amandak.5967
@amandak.5967 4 жыл бұрын
I love how passionately you read the comics :) I think my fave version of the Cheetah design is from JLU but I like these old fun comic origins. What do you think about the WW2 real life action Cheetah? I thought she looked a bit odd in the trailer but then again the camera was moving so fast.
@KennAKALeo
@KennAKALeo 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly, there was a Priscilla Rich version of the Cheetah on both Earth-One and Earth-Two. There were Luthors on both Earths. There were Jokers on both Earths. The Debbi Domaine of Earth-One became the second Cheetah of Earth-One.
@dwarpmunder
@dwarpmunder 4 жыл бұрын
Very fun videos! I enjoy you visiting older comics, brings great life to them!
@KingD-light
@KingD-light 4 жыл бұрын
i love all the Cheetahs. I love how Alex Ross took the Priscilla Rich version and kinda combined her with Barbara's powers in the Justice series. I actually have all these issues from the Priscilla era to now. can't wait until Wonder Woman 1984 comes out. yes I've been waiting for a live action battle between wonder woman and cheetah for years.
@HandofOmega
@HandofOmega 4 жыл бұрын
Less purring in Sashas cheetah voice than I'd expect...have to look at old videos to hear her catwoman voice! Did cheetah and catwoman ever have major interaction?
@Bolsonaro_em_Haia
@Bolsonaro_em_Haia 4 жыл бұрын
This origin was a bit contrived, but the character is ok far as Cheetahs go, IMO. Having her heel turn be a product of torture give her a bit of useful pathos, which was briefly revisited later in Justice League of America when she joined the Secret Society of Supervillains. But mostly I see this tale as evidence that Kobra, who was at the time being pushed as something of a major opponent for Wonder Woman, had not mellowed down. He was still cruel and ruthless. The story works better as a prelude to the confrontation with Kobra than as a debut for the second Cheetah, unfortunately. As for the continuity issues, I don't think it is useful to think too much about them. There were many characters who existed in a gray zone, and you could make a case for them existing in Earth-Two only, Earth-One only, or both. The original Cheetah was clearly one of those.
@michaelturner2806
@michaelturner2806 4 жыл бұрын
I never knew much about DC so this is all new to me. Changing continuities, soft rebooting backstories, and a little bit of "deadline's Tuesday, this is good enough, not like people will be reading this decades into the future". It was a little jarring when you mentioned Cobra. From context I did manage to figure out it's probably a DC/WW group of villains. But at the time my mind jumped to the GI Joe terrorist organization, because they sometimes cross over into Marvel comics. I thought that might amuse you.
@lawrenceperry957
@lawrenceperry957 4 жыл бұрын
I think we should always put a good story over continuity (I’d be a terrible editor, lol). I like the costume update. It would’ve made more sense if the OG Cheetah taught her daughter the ways of the petty. Multi generational salt!
@hamletprimeiro
@hamletprimeiro 4 жыл бұрын
A video about Wonder Woman lore with a Doctor Who reference?!? Perfection.
@galileosol1594
@galileosol1594 4 жыл бұрын
“Tell me I have less than a week to live. The doctors wanted to keep me locked up in the hospital, but I told them, if I must die, I’ll die in my home. You remember the north shore house, don’t you, Dear Deborah? Perhaps you could visit me this Friday. There’s something I must tell you.” I can read this letter. :)
@rajamicitrenti1374
@rajamicitrenti1374 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, where's Destro and the Baroness?
@bleukat
@bleukat 4 жыл бұрын
They are the reason we don’t know about those two dates.
@foldabotZ
@foldabotZ 4 жыл бұрын
Nice reference. I mean everytime I hear DC's Kobra, especially in the DCAU, I just think of G.I. Joe's Cobra. If ever they took place in the same universe, I wonder if they would engage in some sort of legal battle on the organization name.
@ExeErdna
@ExeErdna 4 жыл бұрын
This was CLEARLY Serpentor before he even was a thing
@chem.4919
@chem.4919 4 жыл бұрын
How are the first two Cheetahs able to go hand to hand with Diana? There's no mention of either of them having super powers or using tech to level up to Diana.
@bsabruzzo
@bsabruzzo 4 жыл бұрын
Kobra: You are the avenger of the oppressed. You are my servant and I am your master; Cheetah: But doesn't that make me the oppressed and you the oppressor? Kobra: Well, um, yes, but-- Cheetah: So I should fight you. Kobra: What, wait. No-- Cheetah: Rrrraaahhh.
@johnmattson8280
@johnmattson8280 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder if they did a Cheetah 2 and Poison Ivy team up at any point. It seems like an easy logical bit. I will say I like the cat ears in the hair over the swim cap. Also slightly makes me wonder where this was in relation to Josie & the Pussycats and if the ears of one inspired the other.
@tygrkhat4087
@tygrkhat4087 4 жыл бұрын
The Cheetah story that was in Wonder Woman #230 was an Earth-Two story. This was at the time of the WW TV series when it was set in WWII, so the book was changed to be the Earth-Two WW in the 1940s. That lasted about a year, because the TV show was changed to be set in current time and was subsequently cancelled. The original Earth-One Cheetah just falls into the same category of the Earth-One and Two Lex Luthors, Jokers and others of the Superman and Batman rogues galleries. Also, I can read cursive because I read WW #230 when it came out in the 1970s.
@hairsprayguy84
@hairsprayguy84 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder Woman had three seasns
@ehanneken
@ehanneken 4 жыл бұрын
Did the first two Cheetahs really run around with a batting-filled tail dragging behind them? Like a stuffed animal toy?
@fjgames9071
@fjgames9071 4 жыл бұрын
I do love the look back at legacy characters. its almost like a redo of things not liked about the original.
@missa.curtis1633
@missa.curtis1633 4 жыл бұрын
As someone fairly new to comics, these introductions /origin videos are my favourite. Keep being amazing and informative, Sasha!
@Insane-Howl-Cowl
@Insane-Howl-Cowl 4 жыл бұрын
Debbie became a downer, by trying to kill Wonder Woman. Also I can read cursive. It's a lost art.
@manis1551
@manis1551 4 жыл бұрын
It's probably for the best the first two cheetahs were written out as they're both one dimensional and theyre both standard villain of the week. There isn't much you do with either of these characters
@wondercub
@wondercub 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this series. Its long overdue for this character.
@mdub2000
@mdub2000 4 жыл бұрын
man this channel is great....you know their backgrounds and your pretty damn funny!
@manthony225
@manthony225 3 жыл бұрын
It used to be confusing as to whether I was reading an Earth1 or Earth 2 WW story. Some artists would differentiate the two by having Earth 2 WW wear her tiara over her hair but not all artists did this.
@juliusmaloney
@juliusmaloney 4 жыл бұрын
The Kobra story arc were the first real comic stories I read & remember, published as they were back then in Australia, in B&W, in an omnibus edition. Alongside the TV show they’re what got me started as a lifelong Wonder Woman fan. This is such a blast from the past! 🙏🏼🤩
@GiantMec
@GiantMec 3 жыл бұрын
I love cheetah - ever since Challenge of The Superfriends - thanks for breaking it all down Sash !
@1derb0y
@1derb0y 4 жыл бұрын
It's my opinion that either Gerry Conway didn't take the multiple Earths into account when creating the second Cheetah, or he just went ahead and made the original Cheetah to be Debbi's aunt knowing most people either wouldn't catch the error or wouldn't care. I elaborate more on your video regarding the original Cheetah from a few days ago.
@TJ52359
@TJ52359 4 жыл бұрын
Class of '97... we were taught Cursive circa Grade 3 (or 1987-ish) ... I think my nephews were still being taught it in the late 90s...
@brianna2000smith
@brianna2000smith 4 жыл бұрын
I read cursive, gotta love Lutheran school in 2012. I love looking back at the older cheetah. Its always kinda of cheesy fun for me.
@bobmathis-friedman6742
@bobmathis-friedman6742 4 жыл бұрын
interestingly, the issue was the first time that I read the word "raped" in a comic.
@cwebb6341
@cwebb6341 4 жыл бұрын
Sasha, I am loving this deep-dive into all things Cheetah. I def look forward to more on this series. To your question... DD.... I think they threw Cobra into the mix to explain the costume enhancements (def an improvement). The brainwashing was to endear her to the audience and may have been the start to WW being sympathetic to the struggles that Cheetah fights (we see a few glimpses of that through the cannon) and can see it hinted at in the trailers for WW84. Do I like DD as a character? ... I don't think so. She brings some elements to the Cheetah crew, but all in all, is a transitional character.
@violagreene4643
@violagreene4643 4 жыл бұрын
Something about the way you said "She's dead!" reminded me of the old song "Everybody Run, The Homecoming Queen's Got A Gun!"
@staceykat109
@staceykat109 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting point on the base knowledge of cursive. When I went to school learning cursive was not mandatory but my second grade teacher still taught it to us. I don’t use it much, but I can still read cursive although it does take me quiet a bit longer to read cursive than printed words.
@antonakesson
@antonakesson 4 жыл бұрын
I am 20 and learned cursive in 3rd grade and still uses it XD. An old classmate of mine said, "the teacher ruined you for life, huh?" when we went in collage with each other XD. The letter reads; "Tell me I have less than a week to live. The doctors wanted to keep me locked up in the hospital, but I told them, if I must die, I'll die in my home. You remember the north shore house, don't you, dear Deborah? Perhaps you could visit me this Friday. There's something I must tell you."
@Jhnyangl10
@Jhnyangl10 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sasha. I really enjoy your KZbin channel… And I always look forward to new videos that you put out. In regards to this video, I do have some information which I am not sure if anyone else has commented yet. It’s possible that they have, but I decided not to run through every single comment to see. So if I’m repeating another comment than I apologize. The Cheetah and Diana in issue #230 are both from Earth 2. In the 70s, the wonder woman TV show premiered with her adventures initially happening during the World War II era. The comic books at that time decided to take the Wonder Woman adventures to Earth 2 in order to coincide with the same timeframe that was happening on the TV show. When the TV show was picked up by a different network, who updated it the 1970s, then the comic book went back to Earth 1 so her adventures were in present day. It’s actually very interesting to see how they made the transition in the comic books. If you have the time, you should go back and see the different comics where Wonder Woman transitions from Earth 1 to Earth 2 and then back to Earth 1 again. Anyway, again, if you have already seen this comment or know about this than I apologize for repeating it, but if not, hopefully it gives you a little bit more insight. Thanks again for the great videos.
@KierTheScrivener
@KierTheScrivener 4 жыл бұрын
I love learning about people's origins. Even characters I only vaguely know by their name
@superman5951
@superman5951 4 жыл бұрын
3:21 Yeah it's a come on. Trust me I ask people to use my shower all the time. Little do they know the water is really my tears.
@stevenpage3216
@stevenpage3216 4 жыл бұрын
Sassy petty Wonder Woman! YASSSS I'm here for it!!! Loving your Cheetah voice LOL
@johnbourne9822
@johnbourne9822 4 жыл бұрын
Debbie Domaine had to have been inspired by Patty Hearst. My very favorite Cheetah! Great series!
@SpectrumPOV
@SpectrumPOV 4 жыл бұрын
They're phasing out cursive writing in the U.S. too. I learned it when I was in school and sometimes I'll write in half cursive and half plain writing.
@CasuallyComics
@CasuallyComics 4 жыл бұрын
I use cursive if I'm in a hurry it's so fast.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 4 жыл бұрын
Casually Comics can you do a video on Curtis Base, Vandal Savage first appearance and IBAC the original Black Adam?
@bigjake360t
@bigjake360t 4 жыл бұрын
All of this could have been avoided if GI Joe had been doing there jobs.
@NatalieAuroraS
@NatalieAuroraS 4 жыл бұрын
Answering the question at 4:34 > yes I can read that letter perfectly.
@mooncaketin
@mooncaketin 4 жыл бұрын
I learned to read and write cursive in elementary school, but that was so long ago they made students say the Lord's Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance until I entered Grade 5.
@dragonetafireball
@dragonetafireball 4 жыл бұрын
I’m 20 and learned cursive very poorly. I can read it but never bother writing it because I got nerve damage from them trying to fix my pencil grip technique.
@mycazglinski2302
@mycazglinski2302 4 жыл бұрын
I just noticed the Jonny the Homocidal Maniac book on your shelf. Hell yeah.
@euansmith3699
@euansmith3699 3 жыл бұрын
Teacher, "Do you know cursive?" Bart, "Well, I know damn and heck."
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman 7 ай бұрын
*Sasha: **_"Okay, maybe I've lived in a motel on Shipper Alley off of Gutter Street for too long, but that sounded like a come-on."_* 🤭🤭🤭
@cetialphav3214
@cetialphav3214 4 жыл бұрын
Loved the Cheetah videos. So funny! Please do one for the guy Cheetah and of course Barbara if you have time 👍🏻
@EVENINGWOLF666
@EVENINGWOLF666 4 жыл бұрын
Well, to be honest. before this issue my only exposure to the Cheetah was from the animated Super Friends series Challenge of the Super Friends and the characters portrayal as a member of the Legion of Doom. It wasn't until later on that I saw the older stories with Priscilla Rich as the original. That being said, for me the story worked at the time. It gave a sense of of how they were able to use her beliefs and passion as a tool to turn her into the Cheetah and with the fact that the original was her aunt there is the legacy factor and the fact that the potential was already there. I wonder though, if she had had time to process who her aunt was before Kobra got their hands on her, would she have been appalled that her aunt was Cheetah, or would she have, at least in part, understood how and why? I will admit I was a little disappointed myself that they didn't show Diana trying to have two dates at once. Admittedly that is probably because the necessity of there being a comedic take to it could have distracted from the serious nature of the rest of the story. I can imagine her, among other things, trying to make certain that Steve and the General don't see each other as on would most certainly invite the other, and their date to join him and his date and that would have made the illusion of being in two places at the same time much harder to maintain. (Too bad she didn't take a page from Superman's playbook and have a robot built in her secret identity for emergencies like he does, but I digress.) Or even if she had been seen in her other identity by the one she wasn't on a date with the same could have happened. The potential for comedy was there...and in a different...more lighthearted...issue that was more focused on her personal life than on fighting super villains it might have been right but here...maybe not so much...although it could have been a nice break from the serious tone...especially set against the Clockwork Orange brain washing that Debbie undergoes. What do you think? Would such a sequence have worked in the issue or been out of place?
@Bucky749
@Bucky749 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of covering miss Masque , the fighting yank , and the black terror .
@PerkEdge
@PerkEdge 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these reviews. I've been a comic fan all my life and you are still able to show me something I didn't know. Thank you, keep making these wonderful videos. 👍 I look forward to every new video
@justicierodelaliga
@justicierodelaliga 4 жыл бұрын
Completley off topic but I was wondering: What´s with the costumes of the JSAs: Atom, Robin and Red Tornado 1. As for this Cheetah agree in both opinions: 1)the costume is a slightly improvement and 2)while it was nice to have her as the original Cheetah´s niece the stoy didn´t work. Maybe, if she had a different story (still Pricilla´s niece and Diana´s friend) then she could have made it as the modern age Cheetah (meaning the current look) without the need for Barbara.
@tygrkhat4087
@tygrkhat4087 4 жыл бұрын
The Atom is wearing his costume from after the war until the JSA series of the 1990s. Robin is wearing a hybrid costume of his original and Batman's. That suit lasted from the mid-60s until the late 70s. The original Red Tornado's costume was put together by a woman trying to protect her neighborhood from thugs and used whatever she had on hand; longjohns, a blanket for a cape and a soup pot for a helmet. The original RT's feature was more on the humorous side.
@notoriusc
@notoriusc 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope that they named her domaine because they were trying to keep the character from going into the public domain lol 😂
@Dougeb7
@Dougeb7 4 жыл бұрын
I'm over a half-century old, so yes, I can read and write in cursive. I can also drive a stick-shift and watch black-and-white television programs without losing my mind. Those are my super-powers.
@noelmonsivais9842
@noelmonsivais9842 4 жыл бұрын
I was never taught cursive but I can still read it as I learned it from reading books that thaught the subject. I was one of the very few in my class to actually know as all the others who did knew as well also had to learn it outside of school
@kinginthenorth1437
@kinginthenorth1437 4 жыл бұрын
I'm old enough to have learned cursive but have never used it at any point in my life. It's alleged use is speed but if you actually do it quickly it becomes incredibly illegible while sloppy, rushed printing reads fine.
@Da_Ninja_Genko
@Da_Ninja_Genko 4 жыл бұрын
If u look back far enough Greek the use to paint thereselves up as cheetahs and jaguars
@Mecharnie_Dobbs
@Mecharnie_Dobbs 4 жыл бұрын
Egyptians had a cat-headed goddess befor that. Sometimes just depicted as human with cat ears.
@Da_Ninja_Genko
@Da_Ninja_Genko 4 жыл бұрын
@@Mecharnie_Dobbs certain statues look Asiatic kinda like y'all's ermacs
@fredcampbell4066
@fredcampbell4066 4 жыл бұрын
love these videos
@Luke-fu5co
@Luke-fu5co 4 жыл бұрын
I think my age range was one of the last to learn cursive, because my teacher really just half-assed teaching us it😅🤷‍♂️ as a result i can only half read cursive Still, that letter is easier to read than the time i tried to read voyage of the beagle😭 after reading that, i understand how dyslexic people feel🤦‍♂️😅🤣 🤣🤣🤣Anytime anyone complains about anything from now on, my reply will be "Ok, but what about wonder woman on two dates?!?!“
@photoboyjet
@photoboyjet 4 жыл бұрын
@Lookie With Lukie I didn't know about kids not learning to write cursive style until a couple of years ago when a friend's 15 year old daughter admitted that she did not know how to do it and had never been taught. Back in my day, we had a class devoted to learning cursive, around third grade maybe. Being artistically inclined, I really got into it and developed such a super fancy cursive style that the teachers had to make me tone it down. Some years later while in the Army, one of my buddies used to get letters from his grandfather who had studied penmanship back in the 1930s. His handwriting looked like something you would see on an ancient scroll and put my fanciest cursive to shame.
@Luke-fu5co
@Luke-fu5co 4 жыл бұрын
@@photoboyjet 😂😂i love the look of cursive so much, but i just was never able to pick it up myself😅my handwriting is constantly changing🙈
@KohakuMizu
@KohakuMizu 4 жыл бұрын
I can still read and write cursive. I remember when I was in grade school and even a bit into high school, where they used to make us write in cursive because it would be the only accepted way to write (in college), which then lead me to not ever using cursive if I didn't have too. On the other hand, after basically years of not using cursive I challenged myself to write my college notes in cursive just to make sure I could. It was a math class, which is why I wasn't using my tablet to type notes.
@ross8093
@ross8093 4 жыл бұрын
I think currently in Ireland cursive is taught but as soon as you leave primary they don't care how you write as long as it's your best looking writing. I can read cursive myself. It's more to do with someone's handwriting on whether I can read it
@manis1551
@manis1551 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you cover the power girl and huntress side story as I'm sure it was more interesting than this story lol.
@8mad
@8mad 4 жыл бұрын
Deborah! Love environmental Cheetah though because of the outfit I see her as a (former) member of Josie and the Pussycats or at least a cover band. Still love all the Cheetahs though Deborah is my least fav.
@mokwella
@mokwella 4 жыл бұрын
So Diana has Debbi, Steve and Darnell hitting on her all at once? Wow. Boundaries, people. Time to just get some alone time on the JLA satellite.
@OldMadHatter
@OldMadHatter 4 жыл бұрын
I can read cursive, but only because I am old enough to remember the first run of the second cheetah! Sad they don't teach it any more.
@MagillanicaLouM
@MagillanicaLouM 4 жыл бұрын
Im down for more Cheetah vids
@constipatedinsincity4424
@constipatedinsincity4424 4 жыл бұрын
Merciful Minerva!
@gaby132
@gaby132 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy how they tried to connect the two , and family could be blood related or not we’ll never know just like the dates lol details they won’t explain
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 4 жыл бұрын
I despised cursive so much that I vowed to always print everything except my payroll signature (as we called it in the military,...but even that has fallen by the wayside thanks to direct deposit and paycall no longer a thing) and to this day I keep that promise. I am,...The Printer!!! LOL. Hmm, does that mean my arch-nemesis is The Calligrapher???
@KRstar78
@KRstar78 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do Barbra Anne Minerva next please🙏🏾
@FireIsTheCIeanser
@FireIsTheCIeanser 3 жыл бұрын
I could read the cursive letter but I had to read it slowly. I learned a little bit of cursive when I was in 4th grade. I can't read the cursive in Peanut's comics though
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 2 жыл бұрын
Since you ask, the school district I went through in the 70s and 80s stopped mandatory cursive writing training in 1988, and I'm not sure its even an elective option any more. Graduated from HS in 1984 and even back then I never had anyone ask me to use my dubious cursive skills past 6th grade. I know one much younger current-day teacher who's incapable of writing in cursive (and it's largely forgotten for me as well) and barely literate in it. It's really quite a useless skill in an era when most written communication is produced on a keyboard or touchpad. When I was going to high school the course was still called "typing" and it was done on electric typewriters, became "keyboarding" around 1990. I inherited a manual typewriter from one of the parents, which I managed to sell to an antique store that broke it down for parts. The past was an alien planet even for those of us who lived through it.
@maracianolivez8367
@maracianolivez8367 4 жыл бұрын
I can partially read the letter and filled in the blanks. I never formally learned cursive but I had taken an interest in it when I was a kid and did minimal practice with it.
@MatthewDaly
@MatthewDaly 4 жыл бұрын
I think one could go a bit mad thinking about multiverse continuity more deeply than the writers and editors did. I am reminded of the line at the end of Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow: "This is an imaginary story. Aren't they all?"
@topgig
@topgig 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video on the Bronze Age Cheetah. Keep up the good work.
@antonydrossos5719
@antonydrossos5719 4 жыл бұрын
3:55 Canadian Geese are like that one friend that turns into a mean asshole when he's drunk, except there's a bunch of them
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