Megadeth - Rust In Peace... Polaris drum and bass

[@Nastara]

the small bass part right before the main riff is beast as hell.

[@SanitysVoid]

Talkin about this part I show peeps how to play? kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoqxmqOdhd9miMU

[@kurzackd]

yes it is, and now that I've heard it in its FULL glory, I'm pissed that it was mixed somewhat poor within the full song with all the tracks. If you listen to the song proper, this nifty bass lick is only *partially* heard...

[@stanislavkarala9530]

Dave Ellfson and Nick Menza are fucking gods

[@DaemonicNimrod]

I admire- and not without some envy- Ellefson's effortless and fluid control with a pick. The guy's got an amazing evenness of attack, and some of those bass lines from Rust In Peace are quite challenging with a lot of rapid fire string crossing. I've recently begun attempting to incorporate some pick usage after 16 years of being a finger player, and unfortunately I seem to be proving to be rather awkward and clunky with a pick. I loaded up on a variety of sizes and thicknesses to experiment with in the hopes of finding just the right one. I've got great consistency with an alternating trio of fingers, but I'm a complete disaster with a piece of triangular plastic. I'm reluctant to give up because I'd like to develop some plectrum skills. Ellefson has always been criminally underrated as a metal bassist. F*ckin' shame....

[@Big_Red_Devil_98]

I envy the fact you can play with 3 fingers! I'm not really a pick or finger player, I can do both, but I like the sound of a pick better. I have a David Ellefson signature Jackson, and his signature Hartke amp (a bit sad and obsessive, I know), and I really love his bass tone on Rust In Peace. I finally managed to get it after 5 years of endless new basses, pedals and amps, but I still don't think my arm has the stamina to maintain the speed or consistency of his pick skills!

[@Big_Red_Devil_98]

***** Sure. I use a DigiTech multi effects to get a nice balance between the amd and the bass. On my Jackson bass, I drop the mids down to about 2, and I boost the Treble to about 8 and bass to about 9, and I use the neck pickup for everything. My amp is pretty complicated to explain. Theres a bass and treble control and nothing else, which I prefer rather than several different controls. The graphic eq settings are: 80 - full 160 - +2 315 - -1 630 - -8 1.25k - +8 2.5k - +1 5k - +2 This should give a pretty nice balance between the guitar and the amp, BUT I still have the DigiTech there to keep everything levelled.

[@Big_Red_Devil_98]

***** I use the effects pedal to boost up bass and the volume, purely because the a70 isnt a hydrive series amp, and the effect helps to give it a bit more power. The only reason I bought the a70 over the kickback hydrives etc. was due to storage reasons and so I didn't upset the neighbours TOO much.

[@MtnDan-d4g]

Seven years later. How's the pick coming along? 😃

[@maxammo6282]

@@MtnDan-d4g LOL he most likely gave up and sold all this equipment.

[@thrashandburn1022]

to me the "i spread disease like a dog" line in the chorus is still one of the thrashiest lines in metal history imo

[@giselletrendkill8594]

Now that's a fucking great bassline. Always loved David Ellefson :) he's the shit! (plus, the intro on drums it's amazing.. and what forth)

[@Afrobomination]

Rust in Peace has amazingly fresh production to this day. Everything sounds so crisp, and this separated track is no different. The lack of reverb in the drums is also appropriate for their sound.

[@kingv911]

That little breakdown at :37 is awesome. You can't fully make it out on the album version.

[@gonadmigraines1984]

I could, the bass is pretty audible to me

[@calebryan4467]

4:03 freaking Nick was tight on his beat!

[@goose9120]

Probably Nick’s jazziest beat IMO.

[@calebryan4467]

@@goose9120 Oh yeah, Nick did have his jazz influences! A very great drummer, gone too soon.

[@VaeVictis4781]

Man, this one is more cleaner and technical than Cliff's. Junior is one hell of a bass god!

[@gustavomarques4097]

Cliff was very creative, he created awesome bass lines, but we sounded really awful. Sloppy sound, all messed up and his pizzicato wasn't precise. He couldn't match James Hetfield's picking speed. Ellefson on the other hand, is a very accurate bassist and got a nice technique as we hear in the video. sadlt he doesn't compose too much, but the lines he develop following Dave's guitar instructions are awesome as well

[@maxdurk4624]

Gustavo Marques Cliff played with his fingers. Thats why it may sound sloppy, gives the bass a different tone. He can't match James' picking speed because he isn't using a pick lol. Look at Steve Harris: Literally everybody loves him and calls him a great bassist and basslines are terrific, but isolated they sound sloppy

[@gustavomarques4097]

So, you're saying that pizzicato = sloppy sound? No fucking way, mate. Lack of tecniques may be the reason. Would you say Geddy Lee is a Sloppy player 'cause of his fingerstyle? Steve Harris, as you're saying, may sound sloppy as well but he certainly sound better than Cliff. Again, I'm not judging his compositions, which are great by the way, as we all know. I'm just saying he isn't the God of Bass Guitar, like a lot of people used to claim. You also said Cliff couldn't match James picking speed 'cause he used his fingers. Well, that also agrees with the statement "Cliff wasn't a high skilled bass guitarist". 'Cause there's a lot of bass players who can beat the guitar using the fingers. Every band from this shit genres like Death Metal or worse has one of those.

[@maxdurk4624]

Jimmy Page I stand corrected on the keeping up part. I dont know what I was thinking. But I still do maintain that fingered bass usually sounds sloppy at metal speeds.

[@mariovomhof2775]

@@gustavomarques4097 sloppy does not mean bad. When will you understand this? There are so many sloppy guitar players like Hendrix and Page. They are legendary.

[@Yismeicha]

I absolutely adore Dave Jr's bass tone.

[@themeh3411]

This is a tight rhythm section!

[@flaviomartinslopes7722]

r.i.p nick

[@ATY9Productions]

I never knew the bass did that before the main riff! time to learn!

[@SanitysVoid]

You Tube need a loop feature for musicians who are useing tracks like this to practice learning.

[@bobroberts1466]

WTF is that badass bass fill b4 the main riff, want to learn.

[@axllovesslash]

this is the best thing ive ever heard

[@GChris-ny8fp]

Such crisp, thrash playing!

[@RsDoodge]

The real drum 'n bass

[@JohnSmithAprilMay]

makes me want to smoke and read really awful poetry at a coffee shop.

[@maxdurk4624]

JohnSmithAprilMay Huh? Lol

[@colinj5291]

LOL, wut?

[@besnardowski5912]

Lol xD

[@mikecrossjung8642]

Imagine the people coming here looking for "Drum and Bass" genre music :))

[@besnardowski5912]

This is like "true drum'n bass" :D

[@Churro_Flaminguez]

as a guitar player, i love these rhythm section isolated tracks - but here, Nick's drums sound like they have been "And-Justice-For-All-ized"!!

[@Korgon2013]

remastered version suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks.

[@maxdurk4624]

Korgon2013 Stop

[@vincentmasterbassist6784]

Max Durk exactly stop haha

[@colinj5291]

No

[@axllovesslash]

way ahead of ya dude

[@alejandrorios3371]

Por la ptm que buena base

[@supear_slob]

THANK YOU

[@Kyd0x]

@Nastara Holy shit dude i know, and i would have never heard it if not for this.

[@DethThrasher1]

too bad dave had to go and ruin it with the remaster lol

[@killbasa2000]

If new (and old) megafans stop buying these remastered and butchered albums, there's a chance capitol would release originals.

[@cicero.0209]

@@killbasa2000 here in brazil it's super easy to find original rust in peace Record, also Killing is my business. I have the original, signed by Marty Friedman himself and the remastered

[@cicero.0209]

@@caiol0692 thats whats i think, also

[@DethThrasher1]

@@caiol0692 five magics has horrible vocals compared to the original

[@DethThrasher1]

@@caiol0692 i much prefer the original versions. that album was perfect and those first versions were the ones used for a reason

[@ThrawnTheater]

If you think that, listen to the bass and drum tracks from Holy Wars... the Punishment Due and Lucretia!

[@rollforeverderbs]

0:38 that was insane

[@Bazztoner]

I´ve heard it but is SO hard to understand it.

[@leifericson923]

fucking awesome

[@Feelnopains]

nein

[@vicrattlehead8417]

Boomer, coomer, gloomer, doomer? Realist?