Megaproject: Singapore's Deep Tunnel Sewerage System | Tomorrow City | Part 1/3

Singapore is geologically challenged and with climate change, a growing population and economic competition - the country needs land to develop. To overcome the pervasive space challenge, the country is investing in megaprojects that will help overcome these problems and take it into the next century.
One such project is the Deep Tunnel Sewerage System. By using new technology, this infrastructure will also take Singapore’s sewage management into the next century. But tunnelling under built up areas is less than ideal. The team has to move massive tunnel boring machines that are each the length of 10 SBS buses underground. And that’s not the biggest challenge. Deep below, they have to contend with geological challenges and the ever present risk of sinkholes.
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About the show: Singapore’s drive to remain competitive is hindered by land scarcity. This series explores the megaprojects that are changing Singapore’s physical landscape to create more space.
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[@ShansaiSG]

Currently I am working in Singapore at a nursing home. Originally from Sri Lanka. I feel shamed of my own country when I see how far this little country is thinking in to the future for the generations to come. How creative they are in forming new opportunities and whatsoever that the people would look for. And the discipline within the nation is beyond expectancy even though there are some bitter incidents in time to time. But, overall, the whole country is very positive thinking and well mannered. Those people back in Sri Lanka have lot more to learn from this small country. I am really proud how Singapore thinks for their own people and their future.

[@davidteh7909]

The British bankrupted your country....

[@lucyfiniarel2347]

As a Singaporean, I don't think Sri Lankans have anything to be ashamed about. We were fortunate to grow up in a country that gave us opportunities. We were lucky that the smartest people in the land were inspired to go into government in the post-colonial era -- the smartest people would not go into politics today. My grandparents were simple villagers who were lifted out of kampungs and poverty. They worked hard, even if it was the sort of labour most city people wouldn't consider important work. In short, every family who lived in Singapore during the last few decades got lucky. Sri Lankans have so many difficulties to contend with today, and it is by no fault of the ordinary people. Someone who hustles hard to provide for their family cannot be considered ill-disciplined in the first place.

[@LC-ip3vk]

The problem always lie with corrupted leader who is only interested in accumulating more wealth.

[@andycric]

sri lanka has worst electoral political system like India both will never develope

[@hockchweeong9883]

@@andycric k

[@TariqNissho]

Feeling proud to be a part of this massive scaled iconic project!

[@Tobixo]

WOW

[@vinanoir]

yea me too

[@hambugmongtanan2066]

SO HOW IS YOUR OWN PROJECT?

[@eddyeroyal6024]

Hey congratulations for sharing

[@vennsim71]

Thank you and your wonderful colleagues for participating to make this happen for Singapore! Cheers

[@jacobkufangak.mashwelo9218]

Singapore has really taken technology to another unthinkable level.

[@cartoons981]

what is unthinkable ?

[@barotselandkingdom3112]

@@cartoons981 the massive deep tunnel project is unthinkable especially to is on the African continent. This is really so great because it creates space for other projects

[@cartoons981]

isn't it happening because it was thinkable .? its consiquencies that are or often unthinkable .

[@safuwanfauzi5014]

@@cartoons981 is not unthinkable, Singapore don't have choice to small, with big population unlike Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia they have more potential

[@vennsim71]

@@safuwanfauzi5014 unfortunately these countries are embroiled either in racial issues, political merry go round, or rampant corruption. Or all of the above. Not to say basic infrastructure is lacking in most part of their countries. But it’s true they have more potential than Singapore in terms of land development. For that Singapore has efficient urban planning to mitigate yet making it most comfortable and safe to live in. And the countries you speak of, potential, will remain as potential until the crippling issues are resolved.

[@friendlychemist5587]

I was in Singapore for 9 months working for the project in 2019/2020. Doing soil engineering works for the TBM to excavate through Jurong Formation rock mainly build from sedimentary rock that covers south-west portion of the Singapore island. Strengthening the soil or the foundation along the TBM route of excavation by grouting method such as rock fissure grouting by filling the void inside the rock with cement pumped with high pressure. Singapore is a nice place to work and stay....

[@yeolow2564]

No

[@illreportbackinabit.8514]

Singapore is nice if you enjoy living under a tyrannical and dystopian surveillance state...............

[@yeolow2564]

@@illreportbackinabit.8514 u forget that the god like expats live differently. Not to mention if u are not male

[@kf510]

@@yeolow2564 Yes

[@MorendraNodi]

@@yeolow2564 TROLL

[@vennsim71]

The NewSand is extremely exciting. Not only that being burnt slag (waste from burning rubbish), it makes our structures stronger than ever! And eradicating the issue of shrinking landfill areas! Well done Singapore scientists! Proud of you guys!

[@alicechua2656]

、卜⺀、

[@slowframeclips2738]

But I wonder what’s fueling the fire?

[@fatjellyfish9478]

i am overjoyed I feel so much national pride,its strange that one of teh world issues is on its way to being "solved"

[@vennsim71]

Indeed my friend. Singapore has gone a long way in the shortest possible time, we must all be proud. Our forefathers made it happen and we must continue their legacy

[@michaelrmurphy2734]

Should not be generating so much waste in the first place. Live within your enviromental means.

[@var309]

Hats off to these engineers and the working staff of PUB, LTA, JTC and all their contractors.

[@charlieningkan2500]

4⁴4q

[@yeolow2564]

No thanks to the bangalis that get crushed by cranes. Thrown off rooftops and get rammed in their dingy lorry transport. Also their covid prisons

[@pauldarbishire7226]

i worked on Phase 1 of this project from 2003 to 2005 driving 1 of the TBM's - it was very wet and difficult. The people and the food made up for all the hardship we faced at work.

[@TWJYILY]

Thank you for your hardwork :)

[@chialiulian2881]

What food

[@pauldarbishire7226]

@@chialiulian2881 please don't be simplistic.

[@rogerw830]

@@pauldarbishire7226 😊

[@rogerw830]

What kind soils you encountered there along the alignment? Sands, silt or rock or a mix of things?

[@earthqwest]

Everytime I feel like watching a good scifi movie, I just watch a documentary on the amazing develoment Singapore. Bravo!

[@tippo5341]

Singapore is always at the forefront of pioneering technologies in not only the use of the land they do have, but the land they don't have as well, truly amazing projects in general, but absolutely stunning to see the pride in which they conduct their work, and the way they're looking forward so far into the future for generations to come...I wish so many more countries could take a leaf out of their book and use the same foresight. Congratulations to you Singapore!!!! Cheers from Aus!!!!

[@vennsim71]

And Singapore is most lucky and honoured to have Australia supporting the floating solar farm project. And age old renting of land to train our troops in the outback. We will go green together, and do our part for the environment as good global citizens :) Love, from Singapore 🇸🇬

[@vennsim71]

@Waka Waka rubbish suggestion

[@Dan-fo9dk]

Singapore is in the forefront of what...??? To not allow democracy .....maybe that is something to be proud of...??? This video is not very informed on facts. They claim in the video that such tunnel project has "never been done before" ....and let me add ....that is only if you talk about Singapore.... Tunnel boring machines was not invented in Singapore nor was that kind of tunnel boring anything new ....this is something that has been done in Europe for decades and also where they have got the machinery and technology from.....

[@bakedbeings]

These videos have taught me what was missing from my schooling: the Elephant and the Jumbo Jet, two important units of measurement.

[@noodlelynoodle.]

Can't even blame us Americans this time cause this dude sounds British AF lol

[@UQRXD]

As an engineer I can appreciate new advanced methods and technologies as long as they are for good and not wars. In the land I live most roads and bridges are falling apart. The only thing advancing is the removal of our freedoms. I know the people of Singapore take great pride in their work.

[@JS-pb6gb]

Which country do you live in?

[@sandysand3097]

@@JS-pb6gb canada

[@ergker2243]

As an engineer, I am currently appreciate the opportunity to work and challenges

[@___Danny___]

Never been to canada, that bad ? always thought canada is the paradise.

[@412StepUp]

Well glass is just super heated sand.

[@mikeandersson7962]

Singapore is a role model for how indian, chinese and indonesian, asean can live and work together.

[@joaotolesani4042]

Singapore is a fantastic place where the collective comes first. They improve in many aspects with planning and hard work!

[@billiebone7513]

Screw the collective, which is what the government says it is. Individual freedom matters more.

[@crabcrab2024]

Singapore is pathetic. They only deserve despise, because they traded liberty and freedom for full stomachs and public safety. They are ants of the human race. No individuality, no creativity: only tech stolen from the West combined with voluntary selfenslavement. Singapore will always suck.

[@MohammedAli-hl4mr]

@@billiebone7513 if your self centered and lack empathy more power to you but some people have the capacity to care for others and don't view themselves as the center of the world.

[@a61374]

@@billiebone7513 And that is why US has a major problem. Too much freedom without control and very self-center people. Empowering people doesn't mean to give them absolute total freedom without common sense.

[@Uberkilltoecheese]

@@billiebone7513 cant blame you for your western centric view but not how asia works in general

[@richardserkyere9713]

This is a country with vision 💯

[@bell-xk5dd]

Yap...Lee Kuan Yew laid a very strong solid foundation and Lee Hsien Loong is the builder of current Singapore 🇸🇬

[@StarrDust0]

I'm addicted to any construction related documentaries...esp ones like this. They are so interesting.

[@dickybirdcch]

Singaporeans love their acronyms, must be something to do with their lack of space.

[@anwitmondal6417]

Underrated comment.

[@g00nther]

@@anwitmondal6417 URC 😋

[@codeaperture]

😂

[@therealhombeezy8160]

My day made , lol 😄

[@back2basics597]

Very apropos man.

[@lyradm1]

Singapore's engineering and foresight is above and beyond. Go Singapore!!

[@joblo341]

In Louisiana, USA, a glass recycling project is grinding glass to create replacement for sand in concrete. No heat required. The glass has the same angular shape they are looking for.

[@TKO67]

I hope they will do a documentary on this. This is good to know

[@gulfy09]

Glass is made from sand so it makes sense

[@kridadounsattapong1533]

Singapore also have to pay for what had damaged in China

[@joblo341]

@@TKO67 There is a youtube documentary on it. That is were I learned about it.

[@TKO67]

@@joblo341 please provide the link

[@sjones8738]

Singapore engages in serious research before starting a large project. This country is always moving forward in technological innovations. Plan, research, testing, development.

[@suk4136]

This is a beautiful country. Living here for 17 years. It's always no 1.

[@Jagd204]

It sure is. Would like to be able live there too...

[@onatlopera]

The scale of the project seems outrageous when you look at how small Singapore is geographically.

[@stevenleyson728]

This was built to last for century i like that mindset. To be innovative and progessive more than you expect.

[@marcuscheok7936]

Engineering in Singapore is anything but innovative. Progressive, arguable.

[@a61374]

This is why Singapore is the most advanced city and country in the world.

[@ferahl]

Go Singapore! That recycled sand/slag is awesome nice work

[@exs1803]

Full of admiration for these engineers and the unified team working on such a massive and sophisticated project. The lady Chief Engineer is impressive and inspiring. Eye opening video. Great work.

[@oliver_guzman]

Very informative and well-presented documentry. Such a great knowledge to be shared with public especially younger generations.

[@esunaitohattori7451]

Very Interesting. Props to the producers and all involved in the project for making such a well presented and informative video.

[@pauldarbishire7226]

Several discrepancies about TBM's. The TBM would move an elephant hahaha. A TBM would move a herd of elephants and several herds of cows + the farmers. The TBM costs a $1,000,000 hahaha. Maybe a very old and used TBM. A 6m mixshield TBM, as featured here, would cost at least $10,000,000 approximately. Depending on the size (diameter) and type of TBM they can cost much more. The 6m mixshield TBM featured in the video would advance at 3m an hour hahaha. This is not possible with this size and type of TBM. It leads you to believe that a 900m tunnel would be excavated in 300 hours or 12½ days. The truth is a 900m tunnel would take about 6 - 8 months depending on geology/breakdowns/dependability of supply of usables. I have work on tunnels in Singapore on 3 occasions.

[@vennsim71]

I’m so proud to be Singaporean! That you Paul!

[@enchantedwave7306]

Only after YEARS of Plan, research, testing and development! Well Done!

[@jessevasquez2774]

Wow what a big project. I’m overoverwhelmed

[@Comicsluvr]

I watch a lot of 'megaprojects' videos but these are incredible. Good background to set the scene and set up future videos.

[@RoyShouriMustango]

Thank you for doing this

[@athenagranados8384]

I was waiting to exhale till I reached the end! Bravo! What technology can do indeed!!

[@pennyoflaherty1345]

Well done !! Great Leadership in technology & Future Development !! I wish we saw such sensible decisions here in Australia . We have all capabilities, but the money of tax is Not shown often enough to be invested wisely ! Once again great story of progress & not recess !!

[@wobby1516]

Having visited Singapore 10 years ago for a few days, I have to say what a fantastic place it is. Street crime is almost non existent the place is beautiful and clean, the people are really friendly and kind. If I were a younger man I’d love to live there.

[@cardinalblack5964]

Wonderful. It's actually an environmental engineering master class.

[@wolex4real1]

Exactly

[@richiesplay7379]

I was waiting for an Indian engineer to pop up and there he was! It's funny hearing him with a Singaporean accent! And I legit thought to myself, "built or make new sand, Singapore style", when the narrator said about the shortage of sand. Yeah, no surprises there, they did that too!!!

[@supersasquatch]

Thank God for Singapore!

[@cesarpanaligan6031]

Congrats fellow engineers..great project

[@nanayue5388]

Kudos to their great work! Everyone exibits team spirit and professionalism. 加油!

[@Keyspot]

Absolutely stunning!

[@cathychan2814]

The only way for Sungapore to sustain going forward is up and down...I wonder when underground apartments and shopping centres/food halls will become a reality.

[@meteor2012able]

@Cathy Chan: Your post, reminds me that we are becoming "ants".... 🐜 🐜 🐜 🐜 🐜 🐜 🐜 🐜 See you in 2082 or sooner.

[@ahyapchow2459]

GREAT JOBS SINGAPORE . 👍👍👍🇸🇬

[@CryptoInvest-LunaticCapital]

amazing, hoped my beloved country will be able to catch up with Singapore. 🇵🇭

[@jirowatanabe1451]

Hahahahaha malabo yan sa pilipinas. Madaming kurakot. Pagsasamantalahan lang pondo

[@k.3004]

Instead of waste water treatment facilities they dammed and flooded the Kaliwa Watershed and destroyed Dumagat Ancestral Domain and all Pinoys cheer. You will never catch up.

[@JellyBean-vs4dw]

It's truly inspiring to see such forward-thinking initiatives tackling environmental challenges head-on! Buildovate CRM could provide significant support for overseeing construction projects similar to these!

[@serpentzalaowhy8642]

Singapore is a true democracy that the rest of the world could learn from and copy the system

[@dhanrajmohan701]

Public comments. Very nice 👍 amazing. I love new technology cleaner energy and cheeper energy by using solar system energy and wind turbine system. Good for the environment and pollution control which is good for the environment and help situation. Great job 👍 thanks for sharing your wonderful video with the entire world.

[@exclusivebychantiq6875]

I have been involved in both Phase 1 (CWRP) and Phase 2 (DTSS-07) until the presence. I am very proud to serve the nation, majulah singapura🇸🇬

[@pitvondone]

Amazing area always a glimpse worth.

[@bowlampar]

Aa a rapidly growing city state, you need to be at least few steps ahead of all issues pertaining to a global city of tomorrow, many needs and problems alongside future expansion due to fast economic and population growth is bound to appear sooner, it is one of those unavoidable megaprojects the state need to take on in light of its development. 🤓

[@sn5301679]

Amazing, i hope Jakarta can learn from this.

[@ferdinandpio9535]

Beautiful Singapore.

[@sengwattong1113]

In Malaysia they are boring tunnel towards Bank negara.

[@charlesloh4593]

intelligent people in a smart nation that do innovative projects.

[@curvs4me]

Sharp edged aggregate should result in stronger concrete. The aggregates resist shear I'm guessing. This applies directly to asphalt where smooth rock will result in roads that constantly shift. Sharp rocks keep everything locked in place.

[@Joelmonterrey]

This is an excellent video!!

[@JimmyHope]

Thank you for sharing!

[@Robosci]

Excellent and Best wishes from India

[@stevenherrold5955]

thank you for speaking English for this documentary i do appreciate it

[@stevepashley795]

What an incredible city. Watched a few videos. I wish I could live there. A number of cities throughout the world could learn from Singapore but their arrogance would prevent that especially where I live in Australia

[@duanabsa9993]

You don't want to be there , really. You can't bring in chewing gums even. It's a FINE city. You'll get fined if you spit in public. You'll be bored to death. Life in Singapore is like a colony of ants in an anthill surrounded by a body of water. Life is just about work, and almost no play. Yes everything is there, shopping centres and everything, but you need to hold a good job in order to earn good money, an above average income, which equate to a 'happy' life. If not you'll be bunking in an ordinary pigeon style pigeon hole style flat dwellings which endlessly dotted the hinterlands of the island. Housing and car ownership are very dear, yes use the crowded public transport, if you can stand the BO of strangers. No thanks mate. Yes, never get sick in Singapore. Non citizens are barred from getting treated in public hospitals.

[@peterlee6148]

@@duanabsa9993 sour grape loser

[@vennsim71]

@@duanabsa9993 ah… another troll 😂 Nope, non citizens or permanent residents can be treated at the vast network of public hospitals and polyclinics. And if you are seeking medical help in Singapore for her wonderful healthcare system, you can. Subsidies are available to locals and permanent residents. Nope, having or not having gums shouldn’t hinder your good life. Why should we be like our neighbours with chewed gums all over the place, sticking on your shoes, the bus or MRT seats, under the tables and all unexpected places. And it’s most unhygienic. Yes, for all crimes and petty crimes there will be a price to pay. Isn’t that how life should be? Or they should go unpunished or bribed to get away like our neighbours? We love our laws, we get the safety and order our neighbours yearn to have. It’s a mix of urban and rural setting for us in Singapore. Greenery takes up 40% of the land mass and the Govt takes effort to maintain the ratio. We love our fantastic transport system, most efficient in the world and a gem to behold, at the envy of our poor neighbours… Now, may I know which country are you from? 😂

[@duanabsa9993]

@@vennsim71 Improve your city and country first, before you admire others. Hujan emas di negeri orang, hujan batu di negeri sendiri. Yeah, you can't compete with fellow trolls, you want to migrate to Singapore. People are running away from doing National Service and migrating to you know where, Australia, and you're dreaming of coming to Singapore! Lol! Forget it Mr Troll.

[@duanabsa9993]

@@vennsim71 False. Not true mate. If you don't put upfront a certain amount of Sin dlrs, a foreigner won't be treated in any Singapore hospital. For citizens your life savings CPF or your children's CPF money will be used for your treatment in hospital. Wouldn't it be nice if this rich state subsidise all it's citizen hospital bills, and introduce the dole system for the unemployed and provide pensions for senior citizens instead of using their savings for major operations and other health bills ? Many homeless people still pitch camps and and living it rough at Changi Beach, or there's no more Changi Beach, due to the land reclamations....???🤔🤣

[@FixRestoraphone]

size are just completely unrelatable this massive scaled iconic project!

[@solomonlee4503]

Great job my beloved 🇸🇬

[@angeleusebio9451]

SINGAPORE'S great admirable in planning on thwir progress

[@watchthe1369]

Those shafts are going to make great surge tanks for storm drainage as well. These infrastructure works are going to be key tasks to ensure Singapore can endure thru even more centuries. Like the New York City water tunnel, this is an equally impotant project, just on the other side of the coin......

[@cs5842]

"That was a good job" that woman didnt even look the guy in the eye. Power tripping.

[@meteor2012able]

I found the TBM video "boring" ❤ 😍 ... From America, 👏 Congratulations to everyone on this project from 🇺🇸 America.

[@andysg7902]

Well done Singapore

[@UNIVERSALAHMED]

Amazing job well done love u guys working as team I wish we Pakistani can work together for our country like that too.

[@amadogonzales7018]

I've worked at Phase 1 -DTSS 1 (DTSS-T03 project with KSJV)

[@diva555sg]

How the country take care of its sewerage, landfill, recycle water speak volume. There is still a lot to do in the recycle, reuse, repurpose & upcycle industry: recycling clothing, 1 time use plastic, medical waste, used cooking oil, etc.

[@netizencapet]

Singapore is downright slick and ahead of the game, from development to urban planning to diplomacy to unique economic policy (e.g. 99 year lease program, a 3rd way concept). I have often wished American cities could rent the Singaporean govt. for 10 years and grant dictatorial powers to them.

[@rof8200]

Great visualisations.

[@philoso377]

Page 17:00 + I didn’t see our geologist busy sturdy the rock sample from the tunnel instead only busy by the coast line above. How relevance is that?

[@allen5745]

Never been to Singapore, would love to go there for holidays after this covid pandemic.

[@codeaperture]

I'm a software developer. How can Singapore fit 🔥 me

[@user-yx5jf7nt9i]

Nothing special with those concrete jungle

[@SS-wo6de]

@@user-yx5jf7nt9i Singapore concrete??? 46.5% of Singapore covered in green space.

[@chad-lad]

@@user-yx5jf7nt9i better than covered in sand

[@a61374]

@@user-yx5jf7nt9i and Dubai is not?

[@anandnair5223]

Awesome!

[@disrael2101]

Perfect video, facsinating, can't wait for part 2 update already

[@alexbrandonlee]

GREAT. LOVE.

[@Maria-sz1fc]

Well done !

[@EdwardTilley]

Great video and animations

[@ClowderBeatsAnimals]

I hope someday Philippines will have lasting infrastructure projects like Singapore's. Majulah Singapura!

[@KenshinHimura23]

Probability of that happening is close to ZERO. Biggest factor in Singapore's progress is its highly educated population who are also forward thinking.

[@niloreyes7115]

It is very difficult for the Philippine reach this kind massive project due to corruption in the government. From the department who is known for its worst corrupt officials and local government officials hungry for money. Another are lack of advance technical engineering knowledge for our engineers.

[@k.3004]

Your people vote the likes of Marcos and Duterte. You will vote their children in the future. Keep dreaming.

[@michaeltowler2632]

A lot of clever people, hard workers, and well-made machinery. I would like to have seen how the spoil was disposed of from the cutting face to wherever they put it and all the steps taken in the process

[@danielraymadden]

Space limitations create wise use...speed refines technique...always enjoy the challenge of limitations to become more creative...

[@enndubful]

I invented tunnel boring machines. Good to see my invention being put to good use.

[@jaime4i]

people in singapore are well diciplined. very clean country and advance in terms of technology.

[@jacquesb5248]

bloody marvelous

[@bursegsardaukar]

Hope this will solve the flood issue.

[@woodywoodlstein9519]

These people know how to plan for their own future and the future of their great grandchildren. If only all countries did this?

[@mike160543]

Majulah Singapura!!

[@stevenbristol8181]

Their must be another part because is too intresting this document

[@nekomeow6278]

hmm now with 'New Sand', I'm guessing SG will probably let other countries send their trash to us, and we will create more concrete and continue to grow and have more fun and interesting projects

[@Jake-zk3eb]

They could even ask other countries to pay them to relieve other countries of their trash.

[@queenayacodobae9421]

Dangerous Wait for it...

[@cliffwoodbury5319]

but hows that new sand going to hold up against the envirnment. I'd like to see how they test that!

[@duwaytv9560]

I love Singapore and I miss

[@ban792]

Impressive 🙏🏼 but was wondering what’s the maintenance going to cost down the road. Quality of work and materials provided during the course of work, is able to last for a century.

[@natminame3092]

That supervisor said "job well done" I haven't heard my supervisors say that to anyone in at least a year

[@InservioLetum]

Singapore is a fine city. Public Ingratitude $45

[@MoonLiteNite]

@@InservioLetum Only fine if you are the right skin color

[@sovanrithnoun2870]

Amarzing work

[@NghiaNguyen-wg2zg]

Hay quá

[@LydellAaron]

What is the chemical leaching impact of newsand, since it is retrieved from leftover biosands from waste?

[@ettefrankyette]

New sands is a very interesting option in as much as it’s much durable and does make for a sustainable waste disposal method that’s recycled.

[@MrGloriousBastard]

The question is how to handle deconstruction and recycling of this new concrete. It could be a new source for microplastic leaking in the environment.

[@roquesedano3286]

@@MrGloriousBastard ķòooo0

[@CryptoInvest-LunaticCapital]

even Burj Khalifa was built not with their own sand, but by sand exported from China, the Singapore's discovery of soot as a new sand is an amazing tools for us to build skyscrapers that will reach the clouds

[@user-fo5tr8ro4t]

probably because garbage in Singapore is burmt, unlike US where they poured their garbage into the sea and ocean since before 1975

[@bekicot88]

Jakarta governor need to see this. He only can sweet talk

[@muhammadaliakbar2120]

how about Indonesia president instead? Why did you compare a nation with a province in Indonesia?

[@abd9237]

Cebong detected

[@bekicot88]

@@abd9237 uneducated people can't see the reality, always live in their delusion.

[@bekicot88]

@@muhammadaliakbar2120 Bro, don't you see the size comparison? It's different bro. Also, Jakarta is richer than any other province

[@muhammadaliakbar2120]

@@bekicot88 doesn't matter how similar size both of Jakarta and Singapore. Singapore is an independent nation, not like jakarta which was still part of Indonesia province. ofc more difficult lah to build, jakarta still need an agreement from Indonesian government to make such a decision, and u put all that blamed to Jakarta governor? how corny you are