Meguiar’s Hybrid Ceramic Detailer - Perfect Topper for Coatings!

[@WaxMode]

5:00 is where the magic begins! I think Meguiar's knocked it out of the park with HCD here, certainly one of my favorites of the new products to release in 2020. Love to hear your feedback, let me know if you've worked with it yet and how it's holding up for you!

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Topper with TW ceramic spray coating... what you think?

[@amazed6161]

try Technicians Choice TEC582 Ceramic Detail Spray..i buy by the gallon only costs 29 at my local detail shop.

[@jtks4490]

I have not used this Megs product. The ultimate topper SIO2 I have tried that's just AWESOME is Tac Systems "1 Step Master". Check out the Apex Detail video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWLYZYabr9Cme9U

[@andrewcramer7214]

Your the MAN! Are you going to run the gamut of testing on the new Meg's professional ceramic line of products?

[@WaxMode]

@@andrewcramer7214 Definitely, once I get my hands on them I'll be doing a bunch of testing and will have videos out, I'm crazy excited!

[@MarkusKleis]

Thanks for taking the time to put this video together, and as always, you absolutely nailed understanding how this product was designed and excels. HCD, like ALL Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic items, REALLY shines (pardon the pun) when it is put either on very well prepped paint, or on top of coatings (which act like well prepped paint). -Markus, Meguiar's Professional Product Manager

[@WaxMode]

Markus you guys crushed it with this product! This is exactly what I was looking for to be able to recommend as a universal coating topper. Great value, locally available, easy on/off, smells fantastic, and a very visible performance enhancement. I'm loving the direction of the new Hybrid Ceramic line, can't wait to try the rest of the 2020 products out!

[@jonnybravo3055]

Probably the best product Meguires has got. I think it's good stuff. Very slick.

[@FABAutomotiveDetailing]

Great information on the new HCD. Now I need to get some to test out on our ceramic coated car. It’s amazing the way it easily rejuvenates the hydrophobic properties of the base coating.

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Brian! I'll be sure to stay posted on your channel, would love to hear your thoughts for how it's behaving on your coating! It's really a testament to the performance of these coatings, just when you think they're dead or well beyond their prime or repair, it doesn't take much to really bring them back to life to give us performance that we're not going to see out of a wax or sealant at anywhere near this durability lifespan. And I'm excited for this detailer, at 26oz for around $16-17 that you can buy over the counter that plays extremely well with the coatings, awesome stuff.

[@johng753]

Looking forward to your upcoming test of Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Detailer and Meg’s Hybrid Ceramic Wax. I have tried a lot of spray sealants and spray waxes and I love the appearance of Hybrid Ceramic Wax on my cars. It keeps my car cleaner for longer as dust just won’t accumulate on the surface like it does when using many other wax products. Really excited about Meguiars new professional products M27 and M799 and hope you test those when they are available for sale next month.

[@roscopervis]

Very good video and great to see the synergy of the Megs product with the coatings. In the video you mentioned that after 6 months of not being washed, if the coating was not repelling water as strongly it may need a stronger decontamination, but this may cause an old or weak coating to fail. There is a product that I have used that helps with such situations to clean the coating gently, particularly water spotting and tree sap which is a very useful alternative - Koch Chemie FSe. It is a quick detailer that has a mild acid that is designed to remove water spotting.

[@WaxMode]

roscopervis - Awesome, thanks a bunch for the recommendation! Seen a lot of good things with Koch Chemie products, the U.S. distributor doesn’t offer FSe on their site, I may reach out to them to see what they can do.

[@PapaSmurf918Detail]

Awesome video! Great info. I've gotta get some of this new detailer. Look forward to your tests with the HCW and Liquid ceramic 👌👍 these products are getting so amazing technology wise.

[@WaxMode]

I think you'll like the detailer for sure! I'm stoked for their entire new lineup this year, they're going full steam ahead and I can't wait to pick up their coating to get to work on it. The consumer lines on the market right now are exactly what I'm wanting to see, we have a good variety of different behaviors and features to choose from out of Turtle Wax, Mothers, and Meguiar's that will be available over the counter, definitely an exciting time for the market for me.

[@PapaSmurf918Detail]

@@WaxMode hahaha man you sound excited just like me! Your absolutely right. I think all these companies are putting out some GREAT products 👍👍 let the fun begin! I too, am excited to get that coating too!! Take care man!

[@hammertimee777]

I have also tried Meguiar's Ceramic Spray Wax as a topper and it's pretty good.

[@rixZR2]

Hi WaxMode, sorry for being late to the party. And thanks for your time as you are one of the better KZbinrs that cover these topics. From my understanding of this topic, Maguires has developed a topper that not only bonds, but works in conjunction with coatings? I’ve used other products as toppers to coatings and waxes (mainly chasing jetting and more gloss) ; Luster, Kamikaze overcoat, Angelwax 5th, Polish Angel High Gloss and Bead Maker off the top of my head. All of the ones I’ve mention acted as a sacrificial layer and set/bonded on top of the coating. I know it’s a lot to take on, but would love to see a full blow coated test panel/panels w/ different toppers. Though you did cover some in this video, most of the comparisons we see on toppers are on bare panels.and most of us use them as demonstrated here. Apologies if I open the can of worms , but would be great to see more demonstration like this.

[@runrun411]

You can't go wrong with a Megs product. I could be wrong here but I'd also compare it to Sonax Brilliant Shine Detailer. It has very long durability.

[@JuanPerez-yy5hr]

Man brilliant review thank you

[@XxVendetaxX1]

If the consumer version of the meguiars ceramic detailer, which is diluted 3:1, is this good...then I'm freaking excited for the professional release. Meguiars has a home run here and I think they should be proud. Also waxmode, do you think you would ever consider doing a product test on NV NOVA JET, NOVA LUSTER, AND NOVA DETAIL SPRAY? I know you watch Sandro and was just curious. Also, I think we're in a very exciting and interesting time in the detailing industry, what do you think?

[@WaxMode]

I can't wait to get my hands on M799 and the rest of the lineup Meguiar's is releasing this year. Got to save my pennies up! I'm super excited right now, I know a lot of people are getting burnt out over all this "ceramic" marketing, but I'm not one of them. I've always enjoyed working with Gyeon and CarPro over the years that were sio2 "ceramic" based, now we've got some seriously good options in the consumer market that are competing not only much better on price, but also competing well on performance. Do you know if the Nova line is available in the U.S.? I've wanted to try them out based on Sandro's awesome reviews for the line, but I'm not sure if they have any distributors in the U.S.

[@XxVendetaxX1]

@@WaxMode Sadly no US distribution yet. I payed for the 50$ shipping fee, I bought a pair of two in litre form of each one, and more of their products, such as their car soaps, and Wheel cleaner. I don't regret it because I don't run a business and it was for myself so yeah, a great expensive present I treated myself to. I don't think I'll be able to go back to car pro reload or elixir or any other products after the experience I've had with these unrivaled products in water behavior, slickness, and self cleaning. I also got something from BOWDENS OWN, their happy ending snow foam and fully slick, my God what stellar products that absolutely outperforms carpro hydrofoam 2 and the performance of bead maker, I that respective order. So in conclusion, these products I bought are my new go too's that will last a good while for my one car and person needs. These are something you'd by to treat yourself and not buy in the US for a business. I hope what I said makes sense.

[@c6z061]

WaxMode I bought nova quick detailer and it’s water behavior is crazy good. However, I had smearing/streaking issues with it on black paint every way I tried it. I’m still interested in trying nova jet.

[@robertelliottsr4566]

Thanks for testing this for us!

[@PeteyMcSavage]

Great video smart approach lots of info on the different combos you tried your the man

[@WaxMode]

Thanks a bunch Matt!

[@SpeckyMcSporran]

Interesting video, generally I'd say keep ceramic products within the same family i.e. same manufacturers of base and topper. In this case Meguiars didn't have any issue with compatibility. Looks good 👍

[@millerdetailing4176]

Great video and review, can’t wait for the rest of there line to be released this year.

[@jiajunryanho6332]

I think you need more subscribers you have very good video reviews!

[@WaxMode]

Thanks a bunch, glad you enjoy the videos!

[@JDrach30]

Seeing what Meguiars Ceramic Detailer did after seeing what Reload and Beadmaker COULDN'T do....blows me away. I've been using Carpro Elixer and Ech20 (1:20) for drying aids and C2v3 as a proper topper to my Crystal Serum Light. But now I'm highly thinking about using Meguiars Ceramic detailer to help keep the coating in good shape.

[@WaxMode]

If you end up picking up HCD, definitely keep me posted on how you like it! C2v3 is great on both CSL and EXO, I had my bottle out recently running some tests with it and it's held up well even after being opened up years ago. I did another application of HCD on top of the Gliss section, I'm going to check to see if it's able to improve it any better, if not then I might pull out Elixir to test on top.

[@TheScottyp1]

i use this on my d2 work knives to stop rust. 3 spray and whipes at start and no rust in 30 days. i get rust on s35vn in a day so this stuff has other uses too. also works great on my car.

[@bb5op585]

Great review man! Answered my question regarding if I should keep using Carpro Reload or the Meguiares Ceramic quick detailer. No more overpriced reload.

[@mqdias1]

Excellent review! What a coincidence...i have CQuartz finest reserve and my maintenace product is also Bead maker beacause is awsome as a drying aid and it leaves the coating looking as new. Now i will definitly trying this one 😉

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Marcos, definitely let me know how the two of them compare if you try it out!

[@cedricackermans8278]

I have now used Meguiar’s Hybrid Ceramic Detailer for the first time, after Bead Maker, and many other well-known products that you can also see in your arsenal. The Meguiar’s Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is extremely versatile, easy to use and even on glass, the results are amazing and sad that I haven't bought it before! Relatively cheap too. It's something I automatically reach for because I know it won't disappoint.

[@Greg_P611]

Great videos bro. Real world testing 💪. Have you ever tested Tac System Moonlight. It's a heavy 25% SIO2 topper. Could be a stand alone for a year or so

[@WaxMode]

I missed out on Moonlight, was close more than a few times to grab it but I balked.

[@chavezcustomdetailing9540]

Just got mine at my local Advance Advance Auto. Just got to wait for the crappy weather to leave.😁

[@WaxMode]

Let me know how it works out for you!

[@chavezcustomdetailing9540]

WaxMode it’s amazing. It has become my go to drying aid!

[@royaltyautodetailing]

Please try xtreme solutions Polly Seal if you haven't yet. It will blow your mind as a topper!

[@notfound-qg2ii]

Excellent video! I currently have CQ quartz UK 3.0 Edition on my vehicle. I see the new ceramic spray coating will make an excellent topper. How do you find the new Meguiars product in terms of a drying Aid ?

[@7071t6]

Basically people just use this for good painted surfaces and even your plastic trim on the outside, once on it lasts about 2 to 3 months on a daily, i have used it and every month i use it to detail my car which is the Chevy Ss bassically and wow totaly better than the blue bottle or use both use the blue bottle as a first coat use a damp microfiber towel to apply it and then just use a soft medium pile microfiber towel to level and wipe off, never use the blue bottle as a spray and rinse total waste of $$, but as a spray on and wipe off perfect and then just use the green bottle every time you detail the car, so far the only product i have seen that will outlast and have better water hydro properties would be a dedicated ceramic coating or nova jet or luster or car pros hydro 2, thats it people, totaly amazing stuff well done to Meguiar's for coming up with a perfect detailer. :)

[@qrtrscale]

Interesting comparison. I've noticed a revival of hydro-resistance with TW seal and shine on top of CarPro CQuartz with great success. Will have to try Mequiar's now. I like topping with Bead Maker because of the slickness (like no other) but it doesn't seem to last long.

[@WaxMode]

Thanks for the feedback! I tried topping my sections of CQUK 3.0 with Seal N Shine side by side with Bead Maker and I did see a bit of masking with the Seal N Shine, noticeably less hydrophobic whereas Bead Maker was maintaining great hydrophobic performance. I found that as I was maintaining the coatings with fairly regularly applications of Bead Maker, it was maintaining incredible hydrophobic performance. But you're right, if you let it go too long then it will degrade. Bead Maker feels slicker than Hybrid Ceramic Detailer, but HCD has much better repairing characteristics in the short term.

[@qrtrscale]

WaxMode Yes! BM is sort of addicting IMHO.

[@dcasandman]

I just picked this up last night. Staying in hotel and my coated car got some bird poop on it so picked it up to help me keep car cleaner. I have 3.0 on the car topped with last coat V2.

[@WaxMode]

Let me know how it works out for you!

[@joliewu8625]

I just got cquartz tio2 2 layers coated last week. I don't have a topper at the moment, so just the 2 layers. So you recommend steering away from the stronger products, then out of carpro elixir, Meguiars hybrid ceramic detailer, bead maker, BSD, and TW ceramic wet wax which i have (or other ones if you think its better), what do you think is the best maintenance for the coating in terms of not masking the coating's properties (hydrophobicity is often talked about but is that an indication of protection?) but still providing a good sacrificial layer on top of the coating? I plan on using the topper as a drying aid each time I wash too (probably every 2 weeks) thanks!!

[@jefferytseng1661]

Hi, Just saw this video and thanks for sharing your experience on topper selection with coated vehicle. My question is that can I put Eagle one Wipe & Shine detailer as a topper in conjunction with the ceramic coated vehicle

[@WaxMode]

Hey Jeffery, I would be careful with Eagle One Wipe & Shine Detailer as a coating topper. I haven't tried this yet on the coatings, but I do know from my other tests with it that it is a bit on the heavier side of the spectrum, and I would be worried about this covering up and masking a bit of the coating's performance. It doesn't have the best hydrophobics, and usually any time you have a heavier type of spray protectant or even detailer that isn't quite as hydrophobic as the coating you're applying it to, sometimes this can knock down the hydrophobic performance of the coating.

[@ingo2835]

Iam quite interested to see how this detailer performs on meguiars hcw.

[@WaxMode]

Perfect for HCW and HCLW. It's one of the best dry use spray toppers on the market right now that I'm working with. Combination of the ease of use, smell, performance, I think it's fantastic. I can't wait to see how this compares to their new M799 Bead Booster.

[@T4nkcommander]

This is a very good video on a lot of levels. That said, why would I use HCD over HCW during regular washes? My truck doesn't really get washed too often anymore, and certainly not treated with detailer outside of bird droppings, so I'm not really thinking it would be useful to me.

[@WaxMode]

Thanks a bunch! I've found that with HCW I always use it wet, but there are a lot of situations that I've washed the paint, dried it, and want to use a dry application maintenance product. Out of all of the detailers in Meguiar's lineup, HCD is the best one to maintain the great hydrophobics of HCW if you do need to perform spot cleaning. But if you're doing maintenance on a regular basis and constantly reapplying HCW, you may not have a need for it. HCW is heavy enough to use it as a standalone protectant, but still versatile enough to be able to use it for maintenance when used wet. The risk with heavier standalone spray products, is sometimes they can overpower the hydrophobic behavior of your paint coatings. That's not always the case, but I generally want a lighter spray topper in order to complement the coating, not necessarily overpower it and replace the coating's performance with its own behavior, because this can potentially reduce hydrophobics. HCD seems to be a very good blend of being a fairly lighter spray with some good lubrication, able to provide more cleaning and cut through contamination as a detailer compared to HCW in order to repair or maintain the coating more effectively. That's the main benefit of HCD for me based on first impressions.

[@jaypeechun4246]

Great and nice review. My car has csl with exo installed by a proffesional. And i was thinking of buying c2v3 as a topper. But after watching thiss video im having second thoughts on c2v3. I read some good and bad reviews on c2v3 as a topper. Now meguars hybrid ceramic detailiner is on my mind after watching this. Do you preffer i use c2v3 or meguars hybrid ceramic detailer as my topper on my csl exo combo?

[@WaxMode]

Toppers can always be hit or miss with coatings, there’s just some paint where a topper will play really well and others the coatings can be more sensitive. C2v3 is what I would consider a more significant topper when you start to notice EXO dying off, it’s certainly on the heavy side of things and not something you want to use after every wash, but it would certainly be able to boost things back up. It’s heavier than HCD in my experience. With CSL and EXO, I don’t have a lot of experience with this combo so I usually default to Matt at Obsessed Garage’s insight who uses P&S Bead Maker after every single wash with his CSL and EXO topped vehicles. He’s been using this system for years and has absolutely loved it. I’ve also used Bead Maker on a ton of different coatings and it has worked great for me until the coating begins to show more significant wear like you see in this video here. HCD will be heavier than Bead Maker, more likely to streak on darker paint, but HCD has been a great option so far. I have not tested it yet on a CSL base coat test section so I can’t confirm 100%. Based on Matt’s experience I would seriously consider Bead Maker as a first choice option, good to use on a very regular basis. Check in with your installer too, if they offered a warranty on the work, then you might have to use what they recommend in order to keep the warranty in tact.

[@jeffreyflayter9027]

Hey Waxmode, great video!! Do you have a coating on the windows? Or is it just Meguiars HCD by itself? Because the hydrophobicity of the windows looked like they were coated. Thanks

[@WaxMode]

Jeffrey Flayter - The windows I actually just prepped with the new Ultimate Quik Detailer, and then ran Hybrid Ceramic Detailer on top of that. No coatings or anything underneath, and in fact if you’re running any type of regular maintenance with a spray protectant on the glass, you’ll build up an awesome hydrophobic behavior over time with continued use. This glass responded very well with one application of HCD and it held up perfectly after 2 weeks. Same thing on the trim as well, any continued use of spray waxes/sealants will build up a very nice hydrophobic surface on it over time.

[@jeffreyflayter9027]

Wow! That’s incredible! I will definitely try it! I can’t wait for the pro line hybrid ceramic Meguiars to come out , along with their surface prep!!!! Thanks again

[@MILMI123]

Do you think i could go wrong using this on top of my black camaro already coated in ULW, UFF, and UQW? Only ultimate product i dont have is detailer wondering if ceramic detailer will be fine on these layers. Thank you for your contribution to the community

[@WaxMode]

I would be happy to use it on top of ULW and UQW. The one thing you need to look out for on black is make sure you wipe HCD down well, some have noticed streaking on darker paints. I would consider HCD an evolution and a heavier protectant than UQW. Better beading, need to wipe it down a bit more.

[@insu1569]

Silly me still wants to use Reload (2021) version after watching this vid to match branding with CQUK 3.0. Cmon, how do i convince myself to use HCD instead of reload other than the price??

[@WaxMode]

As long as you’re noticing good results out of Reload, then I would stick with it. Reload can be notoriously difficult on some paint leading to a streaky mess, other guys have seen Reload clog the coating up over time with continued use, and others love the stuff to death. HCD should definitely streak less under the same circumstances while still maintaining the awesome beading of the base coating. But before you switch, always test a smaller section out first for a week with the new topper just to see how it reacts, that way if something does go wrong you’re not having to go into overdrive to try and fix the issue.

[@insu1569]

Thanks for the reply dude, keep the good stuffs coming

[@5hift6ear]

Have you had a chance to play with the griot's 3 in 1 ceramic as a topper and a standalone? If so, what are your thoughts?

[@WaxMode]

I haven't tested it out yet, but I'm definitely excited to. I'm going to polish out the passenger side soon to run long term tests with the new Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax, next to Turtle Wax's new Ceramic Spray Coating and the Griot's 3-in-1 Ceramic Wax. I should have a short term first impressions video of those coming fairly soon as well on the grey test hood. Busy time for testing!

[@ebrammer2525]

How do you know that the coating is what is causing the hydrophonic properties after using a topper and not just the topper itself providing hydrophobics?

[@WaxMode]

In the video I applied the Meguiar's Hybrid Ceramic Detailer at the same time across all sections of the paint, however only on the strong coatings like Blackfire, CQUK 3.0, CQuartz TiO2, and EXO was the detailer able to revive them to a very strong level. The topper is providing a portion of the hydrophobics, but the strength and health of the base coating determines the peak performance, and this is why the Adam's, IGL Premier, Hybrid Ceramic Wax, CMX, and Gliss sections were no where near as hydrophobic compared to the stronger coatings, again even though Hybrid Ceramic Detailer was applied at the same exact time across all of them.

[@nicorallysport]

Excellent this meguiar's hybrid ceramic detailer !, can we think that the pro meguiar's M799 Pro hybrid ceramic bead booster version is even better ?!.

[@WaxMode]

I can't wait to get my hands on both the M788 coating and M799 Bead Booster! Since HCD is based around Bead Booster, you can bet we're going to see some great performance out of it, at least that's what I'm hoping for!

[@stenblann9784]

Also wondered if the TW sio2 detailer works as well in the coating topper role?

[@WaxMode]

I’ve got plans to run the Hybrid Solutions Detailer on top of various products, looking forward to seeing the results!

[@kikcodog]

How did it compare as a topper with the TW ceramic wet wax, the Griot's 3-in-1 ceramic or even Adams ceramic Boost?

[@WaxMode]

I haven't tested the Ceramic Wet Wax or Griot's 3-in-1 as a coating topper yet. When I tested the 2.0 version of Ceramic Boost on top of the weathered M37 Coating, it actually clogged up the coating more instead of acting as a repair, so I didn't want to risk that reaction in this test. Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is more hydrophobic in the short term than all of the above, and fairly light as well so I don't feel that it would cover up or mask a lot of the original protection of the coating. It was checking a lot of boxes in the short term for me which is why I decided to really focus on it during this test.

[@nielswijnia88]

Great indepth video! Could you also try the same with elixir (diy version maybe) and see whats results you get? Thanks 😊

[@WaxMode]

Thanks! I have used Elixir in the past and will definitely need to play with it more. Elixir is a very unique style of product that is much closer to how Seal N Shine behaves compared to anything else I’ve tested. Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is more hydrophobic at the very start from what I notice.

[@joliewu8625]

@@WaxMode an update/comparison would be great! i just got carpro elixir in the mail and want to know if it's the best for my cquartz classic coating since its the same company. thanks!

[@vhonalbertastorga]

Hi WaxMode! Informative video! I just wanna ask how does EXO + M' hybrid ceramic detailer compares to EXO + C2V3? Does Meguiar's perform better on EXO thangtechniq's own spray? Mine is coated with CSL + EXO by the way.

[@dax_8968]

Only issue is meguiars ceramic detailer leaves streaks behind which have to be buffed out with a damp cloth and then buff dry after. I stopped using it bc of that. Even when i apply a small amount it still streaks.

[@glenvictor028]

So I wash my car once every 10-14 days, can I use this every after wash? Or let's say it rains the day after I put it, can I use this to do a quick wipe on water spots?

[@WaxMode]

Yes this is fine to use after every single wash and for light touch ups.

[@JWL-UK]

The ceramic detailer seems to do a good quality coating what Sonax BSD does to an aging layer of Fusso Coat! The combo is the right at the top for anyone who does not like or want to use ceramic coatings.

[@WaxMode]

Can't go wrong with Fusso + BSD, or Polymer Net Shield + BSD as well! Great combos, I have an itch to pull both them out again to run some more tests, but I've seen they've updated Fusso Coat since. Have you tried the new formula yet?

[@JWL-UK]

@@WaxMode glad to know that you like the combo too! I have the original formula that I bought less than 2 years ago. That can will possibly outlast my 2017 car considering the amount I need and how durable it is. 😊 It would be awesome to see how a sealant can be refreshed just as the coating has. Your video makes it clear that the paint preparation (substrate quality) is just as important as the quality of an LSP/coating. I had my doubts when people would suggest that a topper could refresh the base protection but the different combinations you show us in the video leave no room for doubts.

[@arkoboy100]

How long does Hybrid Ceramic Detailer last?

[@GoebelsDetailshop78]

Need to try nano ceramic spray by tech choose , a lot better and last longer

[@andym9168]

Great video. Appreciate all the effort! 👍🏻. What was your wash/Decon method before you topped with hcd? Thnx. in advance!

[@WaxMode]

Thanks Andy, no additional prep was used, just a standard wash with CarPro Reset.

[@andym9168]

Wow. Even more impressive. Just waiting for my order of elixir to arrive. But I a gonna give hcd a whirl also 👍🏻

[@totieso]

Have you tested it in the windshield?

[@WaxMode]

Works great on the glass, I did try it on the front windshield with good results as well. You always want to be careful putting protectants on the front, make sure you wipe thoroughly and double check before driving at night, sometimes products can lead to increased glare from headlights. Haven't noticed that on a clean application of HCD. Will check for wiper skipping once we get some rain in.

[@toyonation827]

Works the same as the liquid ceramic wax ? Or does it act like their Meguiar’s quick detailer ?

[@BlackHawkPSU]

I haven't been able to watch any of your videos for a long time, but I usually think they are awesome! This one however makes me scratch my head. You didn't wash the car for 6 months and during that 6 months all you did was kept applying Bead Maker to a slightly dirty/dusty car? I would think that would just clog and mask the benefits of the coating especially if it was done to a dusty car. I could be wrong because there's so much information out there that can be confusing, but... my understanding is that CarPro wants you to use Reset every month and a chemical decon every 3-6 months (IronX or similar for example) to clean and revive the coating. I always thought that toppers are a "optional" temporary sacrificial layer to some people and for some they believe all they do over time is clog the coating up, masking the performance of the coating, making it seem like the coating itself has failed, making a chemical decon even more necessary... Possibly just like in this video? Putting the Bead Maker use aside... I would think that 6 months with no washes in itself would require a chemical decon to bring the coating back to life. You certainly have more experience than I do however... I don't think there's any "revival" of a coating by using a "topper" like in this case with Megs HCD. I mean all you are getting here is the Megs HCD effect on top of the contaminated or failed coating, not the coating below it. The same results could be done with Reload, Sonax BSD, etc. as was done here with Megs HCD, but there's no revival of the coating itself. Once the HCD is gone you are back to square one, back to the the jacked up coating below the HCD. The advice I got with my CarPro UK 3.0 coating was to wash with Reset and keep the coating virgin, no toppers (not even Reload) but if I couldn't resist, use some CarPro Elixir after a Reset wash. Then every 3-6 months decon with something like IronX. As much as I like Sonax BSD (mixed 50/50 with distilled water) I was told never to use it or products like it on a ceramic coating as it was not designed to be used with a coating despite many using it for that purpose. Head spinning! LOL!

[@WaxMode]

I definitely had a lot of info that I was throwing out there in this video and the way I worded it was confusing. Not sure if the below will help or make things worse, likely both! The first wash and rinse at 1:00 was the first wash in 6 total months, the car wasn't touched with anything for that entire 6 month period. Now before that 6 month period, I had already switched over to maintaining both the CQUK 3.0 and CQuartz TiO2 sections with Bead Maker after my regular routine maintenance washes. So this wash at 1:00 is the aftermath of what happened when I took two healthy coatings at 13 months old that were being regularly maintained with Bead Maker, and abruptly stopped washing the car for 6 months. At 19 months old, we've got a massive reduction in hydrophobic performance that a Reset wash wasn't able to revive. The rest is definitely a rabbit hole of topping vs. not topping debate, and decontaminating vs. topping for maintenance. I can only speak for my observations that I draw from to form my arguments, but very likely that this is largely paint dependent, where two identical coatings on different paints using the same toppers or undergoing the same durability lengths can showcase drastically different results for the end user. During my earlier tests of different coatings on this car years before, I had negative results going straight into the decontamination step when the coatings started to slow down. In most cases, using Iron-X or Spotless, some APC's, even stronger soap washes reduced hydrophobic performance even further that I wasn't able to ever revive with toppers to a satisfactory and lasting level. This is why I would generally recommend to try going with a topper first, before using a method that could potentially and permanently reduce the performance of a coating that's in a fragile state or clogged.

[@WaxMode]

KZbin's reply system is completely out of whack since my comment was too long, I'm afraid I will have to try again later to finish the full response.

[@jdisdetermined]

Did you ever encounter any streaking? I was loving it until I saw streaks. It's really only visible on black paint, but it frequently leaves very very light residue. I spray into the applicator not directly on the panel and I'm indoors with shade. I can use a different detail spray or a damp towel to remove them, but it wastes time having to carefully examine every panel with a Scangrip to check. Defeats the entire purpose of detail spray, to be fast and easy to apply.. 😕

[@WaxMode]

Hey Keith, I have seen some lighter film that didn't level out perfectly mostly on the darker windows with Hybrid Ceramic Detailer. On the paint I haven't noticed streaking on the lighter colors. This is definitely heavier than a standard detailer, so on those darker black paints I can certainly see how you can notice that film on the paint, it won't wipe off as super clean as something like their standard red detailer or the Final Inspection M34.

[@jdisdetermined]

@@WaxMode thanks for getting back! What do you think about using a damp towel first then following up with a dry towel? I think it would solve most of the residue issues, but would it diminish the properties and protection? Seeing as its the same sio2 technology as MHCW, it seems like it could work pretty well..

[@genysmenrunner1677]

Will you try griots ceramic 3 in 1 wax?

[@WaxMode]

Definitely, I'm looking forward to trying the Griot's out, smells great! I've got to grab some more test panels so I can run more testing at the same time.

[@guaranteedworstcardetailin6793]

Nice video

[@UKSportsFan]

Hey WaxMode...can the Meguiar's Hybric Ceramic Detailer be used as a waterless wash in the same way that the Turtle Wax 3 in 1 Ceramic Detailer can? And if so, have you been able to test the two directly against each other to see how they compare?

[@WaxMode]

Meguiar's lists HCD for use with dust and light contaminants, while Turtle Wax lists full waterless cleaning for Ceramic 3-in-1 Detailer. I haven't tested any waterless wash capabilities yet, but the hydrophobic performance in the short term is much stronger with HCD compared to Ceramic 3-in-1, and that was the reason I decided to test HCD on the coatings. I wanted that strong hydrophobic element to really try and jump-start the behavior of the coatings. Definitely expect a lot more testing coming up!

[@austyngoodman106]

Is the Meguiars Hybrid Ceramic Detailer your new favorite over Sonax?

[@98JamesNixon]

Strange how the Ceramic Detailer costs more then the wax spray in my country. Seems like it should be the other way around haha!

[@muckeyn]

How’s the longevity of this so far? I am looking to revive my significant other’s daily driver that has 1.5yr old cquartz 3.0. Still has protection but nowhere near the performance of my car that is maintained consistently with beadmaker on top of the same coating (even older). I contemplated turtle wax seal and shine for its durability/longevity because the car gets inconsistent maintenance. Thoughts/Suggestions?

[@WaxMode]

Could have swore I responded to this, sorry Mickey! I've been maintaining on a regular basis within a 1-4 week period since pulling HCD out. The revival is holding up well, so waiting a few weeks I'm not seeing the coatings going back to the performance before putting HCD on top. But once I've made the decision to begin topping the coatings, I would likely stay on that path of routine maintenance after washing, which is good for me because with so many products, it's hard not to want to use something after the washes if I wasn't specifically testing that paint. I did not prefer Seal N Shine as a topper for the coatings, it reduced CQUK 3.0 compared to Bead Maker and this makes sense because Seal N Shine is way heavier and less hydrophobic, it will want to mask the properties of the coating. HCD is definitely my preferred topper at the moment.

[@muckeyn]

WaxMode what are your thoughts on HCD vs Beadmaker outside of the revival properties (gloss, hydrophobicity, slickness, etc...)? I may test HCD with her car as it could use some revival like you experienced. I would strip the coating, correct and recoat however she doesn’t care enough for me to put in that much work at this point. A decon and light autoscrub is probably as much work I’d put into it.

[@tonipieleanu]

What are your thoughts on Sonax BSD as a coating topper? Does it have the same effect as HCD?

[@WaxMode]

It's been a while since I pulled BSD out on some of the coatings. I had it going with the Sonax CC36 when I was testing it years ago with good results, as well as with McKee's 37 Sio2 Enhanced Coating on the front bumper which worked well. HCD is definitely a bit slicker than BSD, so if we can get a boost in the beading while improving the slickness of the paint, this is what would drive my choice to other toppers like HCD instead of BSD.

[@killacamfoo]

Why not use the coating's accompanying topper spray?

[@WaxMode]

Certainly a viable option especially if the coatings are in good shape. But the test with Reload was selected to see how the accompanying topper plays on top of the weathered CQUK, which wasn't giving me the results I was wanting, and is where HCD stood out. Also pricing on many of the accompanying toppers is getting up there, $35 now for Cure and Reload at 400-500ml, $30 for C2V3, Ceramic Boost 2.0 was around $25 for 16oz when I picked it up. The goal is to see if the new consumer products can compete against the professional or enthusiast products, checking for any possible advantages not just on value and price, but on performance as well.

[@litoaz]

Hey, could you list what kind of hose are you using? I looks very easy no use not like the usual stiffs ones..

[@WaxMode]

I'm using the Flexzilla 5/8" garden hose at 50ft. It's a good performer, nice and flexible, easy to maneuver around, doesn't kink on me under pressure. The hose gets grimy though, after about 6 months you'll see some heavy dirt, possibly mold staining start to form, and I keep it outside but covered in the hose reel. This is the one on Amazon: amzn.to/2ROv7Q1

[@litoaz]

WaxMode thank you, will give it a try!

[@rickw.9298]

How’s Meguiars HCD performing against hard water spot prevention?

[@WaxMode]

I'll keep an eye out for it!

[@MithosXXI]

Can you do TW ceramic wet wax? TW ceramic detailer?

[@WaxMode]

I'll have videos of the new Hybrid Solutions Ceramic lineup coming up in the future, mainly paired with each other to see how everything works as a system.

[@TheDex302]

Can megs hybrid Detailer be used as a topper after the car is washed with a ceramic car wash like Gyeon bathe+?

[@WaxMode]

I haven’t picked up Bathe+ so I wouldn’t be able to test for this, but I would think this would be perfectly fine to throw HCD on top.

[@LSD04]

Is it right to claim that a product has revived a coating when all it has done is make a surface hydrophobic again? Should we just go with MHCD rather than the hassle of a real ceramic coating if hydrophobics are all that matters?

[@WaxMode]

LSD - At 8:39 this is what HCD would do for you on top of unprepped paint after two weeks of durability. Notice the difference in hydrophobic performance compared to what HCD looks like on top of the Blackfire, CQuartz, and Adam’s sections. This video should be evidence to explain to the viewer why you *would* go with a real ceramic coating as your base, rather than just using HCD. It also shows why you would go with HCD instead of Reload and Beadmaker to better revive the hydrophobic properties of your base coating to a higher level if they’ve been diminished. Hydrophobics aren’t all that matter. Adam’s lost all of its hydrophobicity after 11 months of no topping maintenance, and had I assumed that it was completely dead or eroded before trying to revive its hydrophobic performance with HCD, then I would have been mistaken, which is why that section is showing stronger hydrophobic performance compared to the section that had IGL Premier applied at the same time as it.

[@LSD04]

WaxMode thanks for the reply, so would you go with HCD over Reload and Elixir to maintain CarPro Lite?

[@WaxMode]

@@LSD04 I would be very tempted to stick with HCD on Lite, I haven't tested this out yet though, the first car that I used Lite on was back in Chicago months and I might have the owner grab HCD to see how it plays on top. HCD has a great hydrophobic limit by itself, I'd say on par with Reload but the way that it was able to revive the coatings better than what Reload was capable of makes it the stronger choice in my opinion. Elixir is not quite as hydrophobic, and it's also a heavy topper, HCD feels like it wipes in and off a bit better which is what I like on the coatings. Elixir does have stronger chemical resistance though, similar to what you would see out of Turtle Wax Seal N Shine.

[@LSD04]

WaxMode thanks again, I now have all three as I’ve just picked up HCD so will have to have little a play.

[@DmanGuitar327]

So once you apply meguiars ceramic liquid and you wipe it off as a base coat.. then you go over it w the ceramic detailer as a top coat?

[@WaxMode]

I would only plan on using Hybrid Ceramic Detailer for maintenance. So I would wait until the next wash or a few washes down the road to apply the detailer after washing, I would not make plans to apply the Hybrid Ceramic Liquid Wax and then immediately apply HCD on top.

[@DmanGuitar327]

@@WaxMode ok. So is this acceptable.. put down the ceramic liquid wax, then once wiped off, use auto glym paint sealant to seal in the wax? I have done this w most of my waxes in the past

[@Stonks93]

How does this compare to the turtle wax ceramic detailer

[@WaxMode]

This is much more hydrophobic than the Turtle Wax Ceramic 3-in-1 Detailer. A bit better wipeoff as well, levels itself more effectively when your buffing with the towel.

[@jameslalewicz3214]

Which ceramic coating do you like best

[@WaxMode]

I’m really leaning towards CQUK 3.0 as my preferred coating of choice. It’s got all the durability and crazy hydrophobics that I want, it’s a one layer system, and the price is great.

[@gamiteman]

how does this compare to the griots 3 in 1 with coatings? I've tried turtle wax seal n shine on coatings and it doesn't want to last.

[@WaxMode]

Griot's Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax is a much more significant protectant, and sometimes it doesn't want to play as well when the paint already has a strong coating on it, I've run in to some streaking trying to use it like that. Whereas the Hybrid Ceramic Detailer really works perfectly on the coatings, it doesn't bond to the strength that the Griot's does but you also don't need it to, allow the base layer coating to provide the strong protection and maintain them with lighter forms of maintenance sprays. The Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is also more hydrophobic compared to the Griot's, so it plays better on top of more hydrophobic coatings for me.

[@gamiteman]

@@WaxMode thanks I tried the griots with some mediocre results. I'm not sure if it's because there wasn't a ceramic base layer. but I may give megs a shot

[@Riches1969]

Hi...Can use this CERAMIC Spray Detailer on a " REGULAR " waxed car ?

[@WaxMode]

Yes, use this as you would use a spray wax. Use sparingly first, as this is a bit heavier formula, especially for a "detailer", which is why I tend to refer to this more as a protectant. Sometimes this wipes off super easily but with some paint, it can look smeary.

[@Riches1969]

@@WaxMode Sorry I meant if I already have a coat of wax .. "Not Spray Wax" that I applied can this Ceramic Detailer be used.?

[@WaxMode]

@@Riches1969 Yes, you can use this on top of any existing protectant.

[@Riches1969]

@@WaxMode thank you.

[@tylerrodriguez6632]

Has anyone tried using turtle wax seal and shine as a topper with a ceramic coating?

[@WaxMode]

Yes I did use Seal N Shine on the left half section of CQUK 3.0 after it had been on the paint for a year, and Seal N Shine reduced the hydrophobic performance. It’s too heavy of a spray sealant and not hydrophobic enough to complement the coatings, products like Bead Maker, or this Meguiar’s Hybrid Ceramic Detailer will do a better job on the coatings.

[@7071t6]

Car pro's 3.0, mate looks like you have not applied it properly, check out car crafts auto detailing u tube channel and his own car and how good it looks after 6 months, totaly different results compared to your car?

[@WaxMode]

This video was CQUK 3.0 and CQuartz TiO2 at 19-20 months of total durability. Check the last video that I put up on my channel for how both of these coatings are holding up at 2 years and 4 months of durability after switching back to regular spray topping maintenance. The reason the coatings in this video were diminished, is because I went 6 months without washing the paint at all, and this clogged the coatings up a bit. They were revived afterwards when returning to a proper maintenance schedule.

[@sergiobarraza1806]

How is this compared to Gyeon Cure?

[@WaxMode]

I haven't tried running Cure on top of more weathered coatings to test its repairing abilities, it was great as a maintenance product on healthy coatings. But I always felt Cure was the lighter, more workable version of CarPro Reload, with less overall durability. Very enjoyable to work with, same crazy hydrophobic nature by itself like HCD and Reload. But at $35 for only 400ml of Cure, Hybrid Ceramic Detailer is proving to be the much better value product on first impressions. Smells better too!

[@jeremys8360]

Is this better than technicians choice ceramic detail spray?

[@WaxMode]

Sorry mate, I haven't picked up Technicians Choice products to be able to compare against HCD at this point.

[@jeremys8360]

WaxMode tech choice is awesome stuff. With a base layer, it can be used as a spray and rinse in a pinch but works awesome after 24h cure. $45 a gallon on amazon I think

[@Amenhotepp57]

yessir

[@BeepThis]

so could you put Meguiar’s Hybrid Ceramic Detailer over f11 ?

[@WaxMode]

Not a fan of F11, but I can’t imagine HCD not working well on top. I’ve used it on top of a variety of different base protectants with great results.

[@BeepThis]

WaxMode I told the detailer not to use the F11 so she clayed, buffed and sealed it with griots paint sealer. When I get it back I think I’m going to apply a coat of the meguiars Hybird ceramic detailer on top in hopes it will extend the life of the paint sealer. Your thoughts ?

[@brandonh6757]

What nozzle do you use on your hose?

[@WaxMode]

The Gilmour nozzle that I use for flooding is this one here that you can check out on Amazon: amzn.to/349kz3S And then the aftermarket pressure washer gun that I use is the MTM Hydro SGS-28.

[@rajivkishore]

Can this actually be used to top a carnauba paste wax?

[@WaxMode]

Yes it's a versatile topper, you can use it on waxes, sealants, and coatings without problems.

[@rajivkishore]

@@WaxMode Thanks!

[@keithfirebird7618]

How do you like the Flexzilla hose?

[@WaxMode]

It's been a good hose, very flexible and easy to maneuver around the car, pretty lightweight and hasn't kinked on me. But man does this hose build up a ton of grime on it. Looks awesome when it's new but after some time if you've got it stored outside like mine it will get grimy looking, and that's even with it fully covered up in the hose reel.

[@keithfirebird7618]

@@WaxMode Yeah...the air hose gets dirty fast too.

[@jeremys8360]

Also, would carpro lite be good with this?

[@WaxMode]

I would have no issues running HCD on top of Lite, it's based around the same formula as CQUK so it should respond well.

[@jeremys8360]

WaxMode I’ve been thinking about either getting Lite as opposed to Shield because my last bottle of shield solidified in 2 months but Scott said he’d send me another bottle for free

[@WaxMode]

I checked my bottle of Shield just recently as well and it's toast in the bottle. Is the new updated batch of Shield ready to go? It felt more user friendly than Lite, but you're not going to get as crazy hydrophobics than Lite with it.

[@jeremys8360]

WaxMode I emailed luxury microfiber and they said it should be on sale this week. They’ve totally changed it up. If you’ve got an email I can fwd it to you

[@charliecowles1100]

Can you talk anymore !!!!

[@rixZR2]

Hi WaxMode, sorry for being late to the party. And thanks for your time as you are one of the better KZbinrs that cover these topics. From my understanding of this topic, Maguires has developed a topper that not only bonds, but works in conjunction with coatings? I’ve used other products as toppers to coatings and waxes (mainly chasing jetting and more gloss) ; Luster, Kamikaze overcoat, Angelwax 5th, Polish Angel High Gloss and Bead Maker off the top of my head. All of the ones I’ve mention acted as a sacrificial layer and set/bonded on top of the coating. I know it’s a lot to take on, but would love to see a full blow coated test panel/panels w/ different toppers. Though you did cover some in this video, most of the comparisons we see on toppers are on bare panels.and most of us use them as demonstrated here. Apologies if I open the can of worms , but would be great to see more demonstration like this.