Mehdi Hasan Debate Exposes Zionist Lies About Israel’s Apartheid State

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[@ClichéGuevara-2814]

Palestinians aren't starving. They are being starved.

[@vsb3000]

Proof?

[@deathdealer312]

@@vsb3000 ask the icc and icj, they've done extensive investigations and have found that starvation is being used by Israel as a weapon. Or pretend they're not to justify extermination. You wouldnt be the first one to admit it.

[@SMA265]

@@vsb3000 International Human Rights Organization would work you?

[@5pAcEiNvAaDeR]

​@@vsb3000 Are you really that stupid?

[@grimlicentia]

​@vsb3000 who controls all food coming into gaza?

[@al4nmcintyre]

"Look what you made Israel do!" --'historian'

[@samnabawy2731]

The worst thing about Benny Morris is that he actually knows the truth and the history but is just ok with it, and thus is now willing to lie.

[@mgm8822]

He literally had the truth in his books. I still have a six inch thick book he wrote on the history of Israel that I read in college. He included the history of Israeli terrorists killing Palestinians and ethnically cleaning Palestinians when Israel was founded. Does he now also deny his own work?

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

He's subject to the Hague for complicity Religious Ethnostates are by default Terrorism

[@glbale]

​@@mgm8822He wouldn't deny the facts but would say that the bad things were done for a good reason. And if he now disagrees with his conclusions back then, he would say he is being "taken out of context."

[@vsb3000]

What did he lie about

[@QuaiChandler-nn5du]

That he read about food shortages but not documented famine.

[@tymax6751]

It's like we're going back in time and listening to the Nazis denying their crimes.

[@Ex_877]

I think you'll be amazed to realize the truth about that one.

[@johns4708]

Too bad the corporate media has a stranglehold on the brains of the masses.

[@cultmecca]

10 years from now IDF soldiers gonna be all “I was just doing my job, I was just following orders”

[@Seigensi]

we go back in time every time some dunce mouths off about god bs, why is that ok? People don't change because we can't fix stupid yet.

[@coolioso808]

Basically, yes, that's what is happening in real time. But the question is: Are the people going to learn from history and not let this current mass war crime in Gaza happen again by creating a mass movement to change the social structure away from top-down bloody capitalism to a bottom-up, direct democracy of pro-social cooperation, co-ownership and mutual aid to meet people's needs, and share that system outward to the world? One Small Town initiative is presenting a pathway forward. You can turn a blind eye to it or you can learn about it more.

[@marcusaurelius49]

Survivors of the atrocities of WWII would be horrified to see what their descendants have become. Never again

[@ahmeda.3198]

Actually that is not entirely true. There is a recently Israeli documentary named Tantura, about a village that was razed in 1948. They interview some of the Israeli soldiers involved, who are now maybe in their 80s. They are all smiling as they talk about what they did to those people, and one of them even says that some soldiers had just arrived from C Camps in Germany, and were full of rage that they took out on the Palestinians. There is not a shred of remorse in these old men who they interviewed, and they are all smiling as though recalling fond memories as they describe what they did. They must have thought this film was for a domestic audience. I didn’t see the whole film, but saw clips on YT.

[@faintfives]

@@ahmeda.3198some of the survivors of the holocaust actually do show remorse. The founder of human rights watch for example. Most people and the survivors of the holocaust that I’ve seen tend to be pro-Palestinian.

[@fatespiker]

@@ahmeda.3198 military zionists != the average concentration camp survivor. Those are those who had previous military experience ended up immediately in the military. So you are saying military Jewish survivors were glad for revenge. Be careful how you word things. or you will denigrate all survivors.

[@Saumie]

Unfortunately, that nation was established via terrorism. Some of those terrorists were survivors themselves. They experienced unbelievable maltreatment, and rather than thinking never again for anyone, it was not again to me.

[@aleftwinggamer3950]

Not really. Many of them survived the Nazi camps just to do the same to others. Not to Germans though. To brown people they found.

[@skinnypeace]

Israel don’t even consider themselves in the middle east. On the Olympic list, Israel is listed under the European nation instead of the Middle East nation.

[@nic_cage]

I checked it, you are right. All other ME are under Asia

[@TheTrumpReaper]

Is that not geographically impossible? 😳

[@BillyBowlster]

@@TheTrumpReaper No because all their dna comes from Europe so makes sense.

[@Shadowman4710]

It's essentially a European colony so that makes sense.

[@xxisecolo9584]

@@Shadowman4710 So USA and Canada It's essentially a European colony so that makes sense, WE are part of Europe and not Independent Thanks now I get it.🤣🤣

[@hmmcinerney]

So he’s a historian with no rebuttal except to say … you’re pro Palestinian!!! As if it’s an insult.

[@Seigensi]

it is an insult when heard by other mongrels of his ilk.

[@zenbear9952]

His best rebuttal was an adhom. This is a good example of what an adhom is btw. You attack the persons character and ignore the argument

[@kristinwatkins371]

Morris had this same talking point in his 4 way debate with Norm Finkelstein, Mouin Rabbani and Mr. BornAgainChristian, that is, that he hasn't seen or heard or read anything about people dying in Gaza of starvation. Norm and Mouin called him out on it at the time and that debate was 4 months ago and he couldn't be bothered to look it up. I was hoping Sam et al would have finished playing the clip of Benny Morris denying the facts about deaths by starvation/famine in Gaza, because Medhi goes on to literally cite Cindy McCain, director of the World Food Programme, who has said that the conditions in Gaza have left children in a skeletal state and Morris nitpicks by saying that the statement by her didn't reference anyone dying so.... therefore it's an exaggeration. It was arguably the worst part of the discussion because when presented with actual evidence he outright stuck to his guns and dismissed it without ANY sound arguments. It's clear he doesn't care at all about the people in Gaza.

[@muh.andianto]

This, exactly what I am thinking when it come to that part. I even double check if he's truly a scholar or not, for him not reading and even denying such an official report

[@arifabd]

Benny Morris is known to have sold his soul for sometime now!

[@ComradeCatpurrnicus]

If every journalist was more like Mehdi, we would have a much more informed population that wasn't constantly fed and driven by lies and hate.

[@AlfieDoolittle007]

And imagine that because of what he is able to do and is committed to doing, he will never be an anchor in the US major media.

[@mattiereid77]

I think we would have a much more informed population if we informed our goddam selves. I do not think now (and perhaps ever) that "we the people" could TRULY count on journalists of any stripe to save us from lies and hate.....Medi helps far more than he hurts but I believe firmly that WE need to save ourselves from the propaganda and it starts with being able to identify it with critical thinking (good luck Millennials and GenZ), refusal to consume it, and finally and most importantly to bring to an end those that manufacture the consent that is it's rotten fruit

[@chrismccarthy657]

@@AlfieDoolittle007 He was actually demoted for doing exactly that, by a network that is described as progressive

[@markharrison6498]

@@chrismccarthy657yeah, they’re propagandists for a centre-right political party. Not exactly progressive just like you indicated

[@markharrison6498]

@@chrismccarthy657as you indicated they’re a propaganda arm of a centre-right political party. Only progressive by comparison

[@relaxedmonster]

Denying death by starvation is obnoxious

[@TheFaro2011]

Down right evil

[@leannefranson1198]

Chewing with your mouth open is obnoxious. Denying intentional mass starvation is criminal.

[@Eyehance]

Mehdi has been cooking since his OG debate in Oxford Union

[@chrisoakey9841]

Medhi is a great propoganda star. Such a shame that truth is not seen as good journalism.

[@SMA265]

@@chrisoakey9841 You know why he's cooking cause the truth is on his side, try that with the Zion lies.

[@muaazansari4515]

@@chrisoakey9841 Whats up Zion@z! TROLL.

[@annfrancis6287]

​@@chrisoakey9841And yet he gives names , dates , factual evidence for audiences to check

[@poltronafrau]

@@chrisoakey9841propaganda on whose behalf?

[@rachidhaboub2064]

Hats off to Mr Daniel Levy for his honesty and tremendous courage to speak the truth ❤❤❤

[@Hemocracy]

- Why did the colonizer kill journalists? - Because he wanted the world not to know about his crimes.

[@christianmccann9400]

Greetings from Ireland .. BDS apartheid Israel .. Free Palestine!

[@mountain_dewd]

"There is no famine in Gaza." "I dont know what famine means." ...

[@kinetic3971]

He's a historian....just believe him!

[@Molkit007]

​@@kinetic3971 yeah he works for the American empire and writes history based on their desire

[@himurahaibara1459]

The audacity of Israel to decide who should govern a whole other nation is not surprising.

[@iverbrnstad791]

Frankly I don't think they're fit to govern their own nation either. At this point Israel and Palestine ought to be handled by a joint committee of nations, maybe something like China, USA, Saudi Arabia, and EU to get a varied perspective. They are far too dangerous to allow to further exist as a sovereign, nuclear power.

[@NateSnowOwlMedia]

Benny loves to eat and lie

[@mabybaysh]

eat hot chip and lie

[@maazkalim]

Haww...!

[@dlovestar]

[@shamim621]

😂😂😂good

[@oldmanwaterfall]

"stop heckling, let him answer" Actually his answers are worthless and he should be shamed to silent remorse.

[@michelbergeron3354]

He knew not to interrupt an enemy making a mistake

[@StuntpilootStef]

Which is why Mehdi wanted him to answer, he knew it would be ignorant.

[@leannefranson1198]

We absolutely want to hear his answers. His answers condemn himself and don't allow him to keep his good name.

[@AwesometownUSA]

I think it can be cathartic to shout somebody down when they’re being explicitly ignorant, but in situations like this it’s infinitely more constructive to let them answer. it might make you feel good and them feel bad in the moment, but it’s more productive to get their thoughts out and on the record, and then logically dismantle their points, both for the sake of posterity and for the edification of anybody else watching who might be trying to make up their mind on the matter.

[@oldmanwaterfall]

@@AwesometownUSA his points are known, that's why he's there, and there's no need to invite him to deconstruct his positions. There's a better chance of getting people to understand he's wrong by just describing how rather than debating him. He doesn't deserve to share that stage with Medhi while pushing horrendous lies. He cannot be presented as a legitimate speaker on this topic.

[@ahmeda.3198]

They always talk about how Palestinians in Israel can vote, be the president of this, the head of that, but what about all the Palestinians who are living under Israeli martial law outside of Israel’s official borders? The ones whose lives are dominated by the Israeli government or Israeli settlers? I knew one guys from the West Bank in 1991 and his older brother was imprisoned for not paying taxes. So Israel was subjecting them to a military occupation and rule, and also collecting taxes from them to pay for it. Now in the PA ruled sectors on the West Bank l, the PA gets the tax revenue, but only after Israel, which is the only one who can collect and release it, takes its cut. And my guess is they still get everything from the non PA governed sectors.

[@isawilraen9816]

Jewish Housing Committees are literally state-sponsored institutions with the task of isolating ARAB CITIZENS from Jews and putting them in Arab ghettos.... INSIDE THE STATE OF ISRAEL.

[@ahmedvawda1282]

What does Benny know about missing a meal 😅

[@Seigensi]

he saw a prophecy that not eating once kills him, and he plans to live forever by eating full-time.

[@danbridges4755]

"America first" except when it pretains to Israel's apartheid state.

[@greghale4579]

Also a small point that was missed is that Benny blamed the 'shift to the right' on the fact that Sephardic population is growing - exposing the inherent racist position that Ashkenazim are morally superior. The whole talk was possibly the most racist thing i've ever witnessed

[@FelisImpurrator]

So it's not just brutally racist against Palestinians, it's brutally racist against Jews? That sounds about right.

[@mohameddandashy]

Kudos to Sam Seder. All what we want is the truth. Thank you.

[@SeanCrosser]

"Hamas knew they would bomb them" Then don't bomb them???? Stupid, I'm leagues ahead of the best Israel tactitian, it seems?

[@pn312]

Wars fought… against all its neighbors in 1948, against Egypt in 1956, against Egypt, Jordan, and Syria in 1967, against the same in 1973, Lebanon 1982, First Intifada 1987, Second Intifada 2000, Lebanon 2006, Operation Cast Lead-Gaza 2008, Operation Pillar of Defense-Gaza 2012, Operation Protective Edge-Gaza 2014, Great March of Return-Gaza 2018, Operation Guardian of the Walls 2021, Current Gaza Genocide. What participant is consistently involved in these conflicts? If Israel was a schoolyard bully, it would have been expelled long ago. If it were your next door neighbor, the police would have been fed up with the domestic abuse and attacks on the neighbors and household members and sent Israel to prison… unfortunately for its opponents, Israel has a friend in a high place that covers for its crimes.

[@MrJoelyms]

A few serious questions: 1. Who started those wars and why? 2. When you read the charters of Hezbollah and Hamas, what do they say they'll do to the Jews? 3. There are 57 Muslim countries and 22 Arab countries in the world. Is it OK with you if Jews have one country that's the size of New Jersey? 4. If you've travelled or lived in the Middle East, which country would you choose to to live in?

[@Couldthinkofabettername]

⁠@@MrJoelymsnot going to answer those questions because it doesn’t fit their narrative. Palestine doesn’t want to be free they want to be controlled by Hamas, plain and simple.

[@StuntpilootStef]

I genuinely cannot understand why being against Israeli occupation is such a hot take. Michael was exactly right, it's not a hard question.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

Believing in international law is a hot take apparently

[@tylerhackner9731]

Mehdi is awesome

[@MrJoelyms]

He's is a very smart guy but squandered the opportunity of having Morris on the stage. If his interest was to have a true debate, he wouldn't have interrupted and talked over Morris so frequently. He says he won't allow Morris to lie and yet bases many of his arguments on figures from Hamas, who are notorious liars.

[@rajsra3842]

@@MrJoelyms please utter bs response. Hamas is notorious liars compared to Israel? You honestly must be delusional

[@AaronVets]

@@MrJoelyms🧠💀🤡

[@SaeedMSR]

@@MrJoelyms And we all know that the Israelis are the pinnacle of truth-telling! Even Benny Morris' books are written by Hamas!

[@sweetsarah226]

"Famine? I never met him!" - Benny, probably.

[@cultmecca]

Yeah Benny don’t look like he’s missing too many meals 😂

[@MrJoelyms]

On 30 June 2024, the IPC Global Famine Review Committee said evidence indicates famine is not currently occurring in Gaza, but that high risk of famine would persist as long as the war. Settler colonialism, apartheid, Zionism, genocide, starvation, ethnic cleansing, etc, etc. All these terms being bandied about by people who don't understand their meaning and believe what Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran say. People say Benny Morris has enjoyed some meals? Sure he has. But until his death, check where Ismail Haniyeh lived, how he lived and how much he was worth. How much did he steal from his own people? Don't believe me. Just go to Wikipedia and read about Hamas leaders and how theiving and brutal they are. I do not support the Netanyahu regime but Hamas is no picnic.

[@shamim621]

​@@cultmecca😂😂😂

[@77Creation]

Please keep Mehdi safe.

[@PauloAdriano-zo2ng]

Why? Is someone going to eat him?

[@powderedtoastfacekillah734]

@@PauloAdriano-zo2ngwouldn’t put it past Israel

[@slicklandy7819]

@@PauloAdriano-zo2ng lol far right israelis already said it is justified to shoot him

[@kathysullivan314]

@@77Creation it's comments like this that LITERALLY 💔💔💔

[@benshihadeh8561]

It blows my mind that a historian, who wrote books, doesn’t know what famine means. It’s literally unbelievable.

[@cultmecca]

Unbelievable in a literal sense of the word

[@nedim_guitar]

He knows very well. But over the years, he's become a regime's historian.

[@ziggyaziz2689]

Anyone who's working for the zionist Jew's who play the victim card and lie 🤥 BBC and MSM are funded to lie for the same people zionist Jew's Just because the British government doesn't want it's population educated on the truth about Israel Doesn't mean the British people cannot pick up a book and learn themselves rather than rely on Tommy Robinson who's also funded by Zionist Jew's Leading Englishman to riot in England without any education except a free pint of lager or a vouchers to get them out and riot without any knowledge of history The EDL gang's need to wake up go to a library that's also free

[@FelisImpurrator]

Something something, it is very hard to make a man understand something when his job demands he not understand.

[@sammoseh3899]

Greetings…..”Deliberately DISHONEST”!

[@ChristinaGerlach]

Free America of Israel not only for the sake of the Palestinian people also for the sake of the American people.

[@StannisHarlock]

Interestingly enough, Orthodox Judaism teaches that gentiles will look to Jews for leadership. If this is what they mean by that, they can count me out.

[@giltuito1545]

​@@StannisHarlockwe know the far left that Sam seder is representing Hates jews now, but you don't have to say it so outright lol, what a shame.

[@Nilguiri]

​@@StannisHarlock Good point. However, the vast majority of Orthodox Jews themselves are antiZs.

[@Nilguiri]

​@@StannisHarlock Good point. However, the vast majority of OJs themselves are antiZs.

[@Nilguiri]

@@StannisHarlock Good point. However, the vast majority of the people you mention (whom I must not name), themselves are anti...

[@glbale]

The arguments of the Tel Aviv lecturer were frankly troll-like. Even I was shocked that an academic would come out with such obvious sophistry.

[@lachlandunn2137]

Hamas knew that Israel would respond with genecide because Israel is genecidal. What an interesting thing to say

[@ilovsleeping]

doubled down by saying “lots of gazans would be killed.” also, the language is so purposeful. they won’t dare call them palestinians. they are gazans, restricted to gaza only.

[@akeleven]

Israel has been doing a silent genocide for decades. They have just gone public now

[@macgobhann8712]

Yeah always thought it was weird for Israel apologists to admit that Israel is a demonic and genocidal country and that this is somehow hamas's fault.

[@samnabawy2731]

@@macgobhann8712 That's the logic of every abuser

[@ahmeda.3198]

@@ilovsleepingOne of their talking points is that there was no such country called Palestine, and no such people called the Palestinians, etc.

[@petejsmith23]

Any question that anyone has about Israel can be displayed in numerous MR interviews on the Jim Crow south.

[@laurenceegan6136]

His point at 11:43 regarding it look[ing] good on Western television is specious, as we see almost none of it on mainstream television in the West. Hell, the POTUS wanted to get rid of TikTok because it was showing the real story.

[@charlesray9674]

Eventhough I dislike G-Joe, it was those bootlickers in congress who wanted the ban. Joe just agreed with decision....

[@AwesometownUSA]

@@charlesray9674 he publicly agreed with their position (that tiktok was a foreign threat), and then within a month he literally started his own official tiktok account. it was like, “dude I thought you just told us that this was the spy app?”

[@charlesray9674]

@AwesometownUSA 🤔 I think he was trying to access those pictures of beheaded babies to prove that he did see them....

[@Robert_Bob_Bobrob]

Free Palestine!

[@coolioso808]

Say it a thousand times, but how is that going to happen? What activist plan do you subscribe to?

[@Robert_Bob_Bobrob]

@@coolioso808 Pressure elected representatives to stop funding Israel. Saying it to boosts the algorhythm on content that exposes Israels crimes might not do that much but also costs no effort so why not do the bare minimum...

[@coolioso808]

@@Robert_Bob_Bobrob Elected reps in the Dem and GOP parties don't have to care about what the majority of people want when they are funded by the rich donor class and not effectively pressured with viable alternatives. "Pressuring" them is useless unless it threatens their position of power with a better candidate AND with demands that, if the "reps" don't follow through with, the working class will continue to build a better social system of mutual aid to shut down the capitalist system, allow mass general strikes because all low level workers at Wal-Mart and Amazon and Starbucks and in healthcare or education and truck drivers and industrial workers can walk off those jobs and protest while being ensured by the mutual aid network that they will have food, water, shelter, clothing, healthcare and education if the Corporate State won't give it to them.

[@Couldthinkofabettername]

Palestine doesn’t want to be free it wants to be controlled by Hamas.

[@puckerings]

Imagine thinking "they should have known we would.commit war crimes in response" is a defence.

[@kathleentrinity7367]

Thank you, Majority Report, for covering that debate with Mehdi. Daniel Levy was so on point. The more he can be shared, the better. He has the perfect background to have a legitimate perspective.

[@lucapresents4790]

Benny Morris backtracking all his scholarly work, without producing new scholarly work, is more than enough evidence that the only propagandist out there is him and not Daniel Levy That said, watched part of that unwatchable AJ thing, I think Morris knows but doesn’t want to accept that the facts are not on his side

[@jadwehbe_]

benny morris is a joke of an academic

[@vsb3000]

Explain how he’s wrong instead f just attacking him

[@isawilraen9816]

@@vsb3000 This is the comment section of a youtube video not a formal debate. You clearly have access to the internet. Quit being lazy.

[@TheFaro2011]

​@@vsb3000sounds like we found your dad!

[@kwanchan6745]

@@isawilraen9816 he is a settler troll, don't argue with his, just flag his post as misinformation...youtube will kick him off the platform

[@headfangs]

being a "pro-palestinian propagandist" aka living in reality

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

The black prison leasing is known to actually be WORSE for black men. They only lived 6 to 9 months before being worked to death or killed...

[@AdultThirdCultureKid1971]

They had to do airdrops because the drivers of those aid trucks kept getting attacked by both the IDF and settlers. How else are deliverers of humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza supposed to deliver aid under those conditions?

[@MrBluemanworld]

I have no words. I've never been more disgusted in my life listening to those Nazi-apologists.

[@carmelobazzano5703]

The new historian Benny without balls has deliberately distorted the historical record.

[@Virjunior01]

Don't trust Israelis named "Benny"

[@Uncanny_Mountain]

There's a word for that Revisionism? Holocaust denial? Blood Libel?

[@zazahuss2077]

That's the price you pay. Historians who stood for truth were fired.

[@InvaderMedia420]

when the only difference between the worst thing that have happened to your culture, and what you are doing to another person’s culture is when it was happening to you, it was gas chambers, and when you are doing it to them, it is missiles you are not in the right and what the person said about Israel, not making Jewish people safer is spot on.

[@fentonmulley5895]

13:49 the crowd gives the only reaction a genuine person would.

[@johnallenbailey1103]

There's a white haired woman in the next view of the crowd that is also in line.

[@Peacejusticenow]

Don't ever debate Zio's they are delulu

[@samnabawy2731]

I say always debate them. Their arguments are so easy to dismantle.

[@michelbergeron3354]

They always eventually stop responding when faced with evidence or call you antisemitic. It's pretty funny 🤣

[@NateSnowOwlMedia]

@@michelbergeron3354it’s a win when they pull the auntie sammy card

[@geraltrivia6148]

@@michelbergeron3354 It's funny but Zionists cry 'Wolf!' over anti-Semitism so often that actual anti-Semitism will be increasingly ignored and actual anti-Semites emboldened. Israel is endangering Jewish people all over the world by trying to conflate Zionism with Judaism.

[@chickensoup9869]

Let them speak and self-report.

[@andersongomez636]

Benny Morris is liar period

[@nickylo2178]

It was never about Jews, it was about using judaism to serve a nationalist settler colonial project.

[@danielalveorodriguez7177]

That’s a simplification and a reductionist point of view. Israel’s actions today are a genocide, but just for starters let’s not pretend that Israel’s political, demographic and economic situation hasn’t change in the last 30 years, or underestimate the role that people like Netanyahu for so long have played in getting to this point or the role that the US has in supporting Israel by just peddling right wing /Zionist propaganda to put populace. We should see deeper into Israel’s history and creation as a state for the Jews.

[@nickylo2178]

@@danielalveorodriguez7177 I recommend "Zionism During the Holocaust: The weaponisation of memory in the service of state and nation" by Tony Greenstein

[@danielalveorodriguez7177]

@@nickylo2178 i have read it already. What’s your point?

[@nickylo2178]

@@danielalveorodriguez7177 should be obvious, multiple examples how the establishment of the state of Israel was more important than saving Jewish lives.

[@hillside21]

"As far as I know" "I haven't read" -- weasel words.

[@ChristinaGerlach]

Save the people of Palestine to save the people of Israel.

[@giltuito1545]

The audience here does not want to "save the people of Israel" (not that we need your incompetent hands for help), it wants their demise. The far left hates jews now, didn't you get the memo?

[@chillende]

One could have easily listed just the hospital casualties alone to stress the point about the affects of famine. The babies the IDF forced the medical staff to leave behind in the maternity ward, were they not casualties of starvation through forced neglect??

[@shamim621]

I will never forget those poor babies.

[@sharasia7690]

The i3raili propaganda does not need to be sophisticated. It is a well fed machine

[@Sombriage]

Mehdi Hasan is such a fantastic journalist. You have to be willing to chase down the answers and repeat the questions until you get those answers.

[@Mountain24665]

Mehdi just falsly put a quotes without context, shame on him

[@Matt-uv8rz]

My one criticism of Mehdi is that sometimes he needs to let the interviewee talk a little more. But compared to every other television reporter, he's 1,000,000 times better. There isn't a single reporter in major US TV media that is capable of asking a tough question. Mehdi at least poses tough questions and has some concept of how to ask follow-up questions. I do, however, think that sometimes he needs to let the interviewee answer in their own terms and accept that he won't get the answer he was looking for. Because he straddles the line between pundit and journalist, sometimes the pundit comes out a little too much. That said, I'll still take him over our completely incompetent and pundit laden journalists any day of the week.

[@samnabawy2731]

I enjoy that he fact checks liars on the spot

[@geraltrivia6148]

He has to steamroll them a little bit. If he doesn't, they'll follow up their lies with deflections, whataboutisms and go off in an entirely different direction to get away from the subject, and then he'll have to deal with the new BS without addressing the old. Snake wrangling is an art.

[@simonkapadia7582]

You do hear that causal attributional fallacy repeated a lot by people in the west who selectively empathise, seeing Hamas's attacks as an outrage but Israel's crimes as justified. It's nothing more nor less than a complete abrogation of Israel's moral agency or autonomy. Essentially saying that Israel's crimes are Hamas's fault because they knew Israel would commit crimes in retaliation. By that logic of course, noone is to blame for anything because everything is in response to something that came before. It starts you on the search for the original sin, and then debating who threw the first stone according to what you believe constitutes a stone. But the point of the chicken and the egg is that it's a nonsense, rather like a linguistic fallacy. Neither comes first, rather evolution from prior states occurred whereby that particular form of procreation developed, and at some point we designated the adult form a chicken, but, species are not discrete entities in nature, it's just a name attached to a concept of a type of animal. There's no beginning or end, just a process. And in law, there are no justifications in that sense for crimes (and no defence for crimes against humanity). A killing may not be murder, but, and particularly as the defence of provocation has largely disappeared, the fact that someone sinned against you is not considered a defence in the event you sin against them. If someone kills your brother and you kill their family, you don't get to argue that they murdered first, and you murdered only consequently. Both you and they are held responsible for your crimes. Israel's propaganda has long hinged on dehumanisation, on the idea that the Palestinians are barbarians at the gates, and Israel is just doing what it has to do to preserve its noble civilisation with its human rights and rule of law. And that killing them is a necessary but unfortunate consequence of its efforts to preserve that better society. The problem is it literally only works if you engage in the dehumanisation. The moment you view Palestinians as coequal in their humanity, Israel looks very different. What you begin to see is a country that has all the power, and yet makes no concessions for peace, and which has regularly brutalised the civilian population. You don't need to know the detail, all you need is to have lived through a few outbreaks of violence for the pattern to become clear. Most British people I know when the Hamas attack happened all agreed it wouldn't be long before Israel had killed ten times as many civilians as they had lost. Because that's always what happens. In our lifetimes, that was always what happened. And if that's what you expect, if that's what you believe, you don't see Israel as a moral country, because most of us tend to think a moral country is one that behaves better than those who sin against it.

[@AwesometownUSA]

well said

[@Not-a-GSD]

The United Nations (UN) defines famine as a technical term that occurs when a population in a specific geographic area is facing widespread malnutrition and hunger-related deaths.

[@alecontiveros4959]

Let's remember what that bridge the US built for "food/aid" was used for...to engage in assisting a massacre.

[@Heesab]

I like this guys logic. I’m going to subscribe.

[@mohameddandashy]

To all those uncovering the ugly side of Zionism , kudos to you. As someone who went to school shoulder to shoulder with Jews in Arab countries , I assure anti semitism was not prevalent in the Arab world. It is only when Jews from Eastern Europe decide the fate of Palestinians in Palestine.

[@TheEvolver311]

Yeah they were good second class citizens😊

[@mexikaiju]

Gotta say, it's really satisfying to see Benny "the Nakba was okay" Morris exposed like this

[@beebee4172]

Day of judgment

[@philliphessel6788]

Tradition holds that when Hillel the Elder (died ca. 10 CE) was asked by a pagan to give a lecture on Torah no longer than he could stand on one foot, he said, "That which is hateful to you, do not do unto your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is commentary; go and learn." When a larger colloquium of Talmudic sages considered the question of which is the greatest commandment, the consensus was not “Love God”; it was “Love your neighbor as yourself,” for only through that practice do we begin to know whereof we speak when we invoke the Name. (A dissenting opinion was a passage that’s not literally a commandment: “This is the book of the generations of Adam.” The premise was that one could infer the commandment to love from knowing that we are all brothers and sisters. Most folks, though, are doubtfully so erudite.) There’s considerable trouble with ascribing to the secular state of Israel special legitimacy when it flouts the ethical heritage that so many Israelites consider key to the definition of their people, anciently bound together by that of a diversity of tribes come as refugees from dispossessing oppression in every direction to the rough hill country of Palestine. For a couple thousand years, Israelites with no state in which they held political sway were fairly reckoned a people on average admirable in standing for justice for all. Yet, as with the creation of so many other ethno-states, the modern state of Israel became a driver for injustice. I agree with the anarchist analysis that the function of any state is to enforce a class hierarchy. When a fundamental part of its definition is an ethnic category or ‘race’, it should be no surprise that this adds further oppression, more extreme disregard by the ruling class for the population made the lowest underclass. We had seen that many times over before 1948, not least in the CSA, the Western expansion of the USA, and the Third Reich. It was as if the 20th century were proceeding in ignorance of what had been wreaked in its first half and before that the 19th. As to what Hamas knew of Likud, expecting a depraved institution to be horrifically evil doesn’t get the depraved individuals off the hook for in the event indeed choosing to do horrific evil. They had opportunity to belie that expectation. Given what happened in Yemen, it would be astonishing if famine were not also happening in Gaza. If Likud’s apologists really believed and wanted support for that claim, then they would allow reporters and aid workers access to Gaza.

[@charlesray9674]

In this post (the original), I'm the 4th "like". In the your second attempt, I'm 3rd "like" so neither post have been taken down.

[@metalheadedtothemax]

Benny Morris: "Didn't happen, no it didn't, they wanted it tho"

[@suzankhoshnevisriahi824]

The problem is US Government has to change its behavior. I’m afraid Kamala Harris won’t be any different.

[@shogran1234]

Kamala has already shown extreme support for Israel, the smile on her face when she was addressing AIPAC was enough. She couldn't contain her joy while kneeling to her superiors.

[@rastaarmando7058]

For Palastine's side of things, it doesn't matter who becomes President.

[@charlesray9674]

That is why the Secretary General of the UN said that that ancient (my word) rule of the permanent members' veto powers in the UN security council should be abolished.

[@AwesometownUSA]

there’s a chance KH won’t be better… but there’s a _likelihood_ that DJT will be WORSE. I don’t mean to come across like I’m making quantifiable moral valuations - all jannis sides are BAD, full stop - but there are methods and measures DJT can take that will elicit more intensified instances of suffering _within_ that janis syde (ie. in terms of the types of weaponry and tactics used in pursuit of it). also, keep in mind: while the d e m s are in the pocket of AIPAC, the g0p is in the pocket of both AIPAC _and_ CUFI (the evangelical z10nist lobbying org, which actually spends more money than AIPAC)

[@theoldesttrees]

The cognitive dissonance, if not just willful ignorance, is truly staggering. There needs to be more public calling out like this.

[@johnnylabu765]

deny,lies & deflects. old zio's tactics

[@lisbondiaries9212]

Benny became a historian during the same time as other historians, Ilan Pappé and Avi Shlaim. However, he decided to be blind to the truth and deny actual history.

[@hiyorisarugaki1830]

"there is a shortage of food, and malnutrition, but no famine" 🤣

[@geertdecoster5301]

The sad fact is that every historian can go either way. Either one stays an humanist or a nationalist. Being the first one can still love ones country deeply but truly

[@williemasterofdestruction5339]

How come when I say free Palestine, it gets censored within 27 seconds? But only sometimes....

[@williemasterofdestruction5339]

And this statement alone shows that the majority of us in the world are very alike. Similar not just in opinions, empathy and concern, but with a true desire to live in peace.happily with no need for quarrels between countries. Not that it is us, the countrymen who bicker and foment war, but instead the politicians and leaders. Religious leaders among them who would send us to war in an instant. While they live lavishly and support our needs almost never. ✌️💚🍉

[@williemasterofdestruction5339]

And this statement alone shows that the majority of us in the world are very alike. Similar not just in opinions, empathy and concern, but with a true desire to live in peace.happily with no need for quarrels between countries. Not that it is us, the countrymen who bicker and foment war, but instead the politicians and leaders. Religious leaders among them who would send us to war in an instant. While they live lavishly and support our needs almost never. ✌️💚🍉Biden's too little,too late policy as he deepthroats an ice cream 🍦 cone would be hilarious if it didn't entail "A" little kid buried under rubble,screams getting weaker each day as "she" slowly starved and fights off dehydration. With only her mind and memories to comfort her. The bomb blasts not only blow out her eardrums, but bring back memories of when all her family before her were dirtnapped. One by one. By a laughing menace who films the felchery they do, meanwhile crying that these sadistic things are what happened to them... 🤗😘😎🪓

[@R0bstar-YT]

SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER

[@philliptisdicky8873]

We need to have a real conversation about how some jewish ppl were sacrificed for this “war”. Let alone the destruction of the Palestinian people(bc no one in the system cares about them)

[@Iban-Underground]

Those answers are straight up comically evil.

[@sargonsblackgrandfather2072]

Benny Morris is the equivalent of a pro Holocaust historian. It’s insane.

[@lonecandle5786]

If there was mass starvation, we wouldn't need to rely on a limited list of names of people who died of malnutrition. There should be a huge list. There should be videos of masses starving. Where is the evidence for this? If it's a limited list, then that's just as much a fault of the Palestinians for not getting them food, because without mass starvation, that means there is enough food, they just aren't sharing it.

[@Ssalamanderr]

WTF are you talking about. IDF interfering with aid shipments is pretty well documented. From CNN: "“We talked to the heads of international aid organizations that had been working in conflicts worldwide for decades,” the senator added. “They said they’d never seen a more broken system.” The situation prompted Van Hollen to spearhead US congressional efforts to hold Israel accountable for its handling of humanitarian aid, which he described on the Senate floor earlier this month as a “textbook war crime.”"

[@jimfromwakanda7991]

Morris didn't read any reports on people in Gaza dying fron starvation because he conveniently ignored them so he didn't have to answer any questions on it.

[@TracyCheyne-sx8im]

I found it really outrageous that anybody would say that the attack on October 7 was anything remotely similar to the. It's absolutely ridiculous, it's insulting! The nearly year long genocide(which is still continuing) and which has killed a minimum of 40,000 civilians Palestinians,and will reach 186,000 murders of Palestinians according to the lancet. The majority of the populations around the world have come to Lowe's and despise Israel, and that's not going away. it is the action of Israel's genocide of Palestinians and the hatred around the world for those actions that is definitely making it more dangerous for Jews around the world. unfortunately that is despite the fact that so many of the Jewish people have stood up and marched and spoken out against Zionist genocide in Gazza.

[@jaysyn808]

Does this whole thing sound like the exact way America was "Discovered" in the first place....weird huh

[@philliphessel6788]

2nd try to get past censor: Tradition holds that when Hillel the Elder (died ca. 10 CE) was asked by a pagan to give a lecture on Torah no longer than he could stand on one foot, he said, "That which is hateful to you, do not do unto your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is commentary; go and learn." When a larger colloquium of Talmudic sages considered the question of which is the greatest commandment, the consensus was not “Love God”; it was “Love your neighbor as yourself,” for only through that practice do we begin to know whereof we speak when we invoke the Name. (A dissenting opinion was a passage that’s not literally a commandment: “This is the book of the generations of Adam.” The premise was that one could infer the commandment to love from knowing that we are all brothers and sisters. Most folks, though, are doubtfully so erudite.) There’s considerable trouble with ascribing to the secular state of Israel special legitimacy when it flouts the ethical heritage that so many Israelites consider key to the definition of their people, anciently bound together by that of a diversity of tribes come as refugees from dispossessing oppression in every direction to the rough hill country of Palestine. For a couple thousand years, Israelites with no state in which they held political sway were fairly reckoned a people on average admirable in standing for justice for all. Yet, as with the creation of so many other ethno-states, the modern state of Israel became a driver for injustice. I agree with the anarchist analysis that the function of any state is to enforce a class hierarchy. When a fundamental part of its definition is an ethnic category or ‘race’, it should be no surprise that this adds further oppression, more extreme disregard by the ruling class for the population made the lowest underclass. We had seen that many times over before 1948, not least in the CSA, the Western expansion of the USA, and the Third Reich. It was as if the 20th century were proceeding in ignorance of what had been wreaked in its first half and before that the 19th. As to what Hamas knew of Likud, expecting a depraved institution to be horrifically evil doesn’t get the depraved individuals off the hook for in the event indeed choosing to do horrific evil. They had opportunity to belie that expectation. Given what happened in Yemen, it would be astonishing if famine were not also happening in Gaza. If Likud’s apologists really believed and wanted support for that claim, then they would allow reporters and aid workers access to Gaza.

[@charlesray9674]

You haven't been censored. You first post is active

[@greatsol2444]

The guy’s literally struggling to gaslight himself directly in front of everyone on stage.

[@EzekialMordecai]

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt.

[@goteambuilders]

Wow… 🤦‍♂️

[@b.bigdaddy]

Benny Morris.. if puke was a "historian"

[@fitahyo1308]

They lied since their existence

[@user-hn3qb6ph6q]

He is saying if hamas didn't stated it we wouldnt be doing genocide. What kind of a mental gymnastics is that?

[@martinwhite9691]

The Golden Rule,,,.. Treat Others How You Expect To Be Treated Your Self.

[@Sam-fy2xm]

What kind of human is that old man???!

[@rashafaqeh670]

A Zio-nist

[@dfolz1101]

"Hamas knew that israel would respond disproportionately" Bro why does israel have zero agency over their own actions. Israel commits war crimes so its Hamas' fault. Make that shit make sense please.

[@johnredding7728]

I have personal experience with this. There’s a family friend I interact with regularly. This friend is pretty old - so he’s been bread into all the stereotypes that I’ve successfully persuaded him out of every once in a while. I can’t do that with Jews any more - because of Israel. Don’t get me wrong - I try. But now the best I can come up with is No True Scotsman - and he doesn’t buy it.

[@borborro]

Not a palastine propaganda guy. But a brave man seeing the horror done in his name

[@mohamedelkayal8871]

One doesn't even need to resort to propaganda. Israel has done more than enough to get people on Palestine's side.

[@QQ55_]

Does Israel blackmail their own historians too? It would makes sense.

[@AwesometownUSA]

yeah while watching this I was (half-jokingly) thinking “dang they must have some CRAZY photos of him…” haha

[@user-hn3qb6ph6q]

Whenever I see pro-Israeli person, I feel like I am in a pychology class watching a documentary of patients..

[@hassanhikmet]

The Devil saying I will make you think wrong is Right.

[@mickael486]

I wish Sam and crew would tag the source of this debate. Would love to watch the whole thing.

[@charlesray9674]

Search "History, Genocide and Israel's war on Gaza

[@Farokudagelap]

If a person is a propagandist it doesn't necessarily make them wrong

[@tonybanks1035]

Only here could Daniel Levy's line of argument be given any respect. It comes down to: my feelings, my feelings, my feelings

[@Zarastro54]

Yes, Zionists really only have their feelings to rely upon for “argument,” as facts have left them long ago.

[@leannefranson1198]

If you studiously avoid the truth, you can likely do so. Shut off the news, scroll past, refuse to engage with anyone who doesn't agree with you. Reminds me of Hogan's Heroes... Schultz the guard would say "I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nothing!" when obvious things were going on right under his nose. This is Benny Morris and his kind.

[@OujdaSociety]

Mehdi is the best, thank you TMR for bringing this.

[@colmmcgovern4915]

Regardless of your position on this issue it should be clear that Mehdi is a terrible journalist. He had no interest in having an open discussion on this issues, just bombarded the historian with quote after quote taken out of context and encouraged his partisan audience to heckle the guest. He is slick Mehdi but that's about it.

[@OujdaSociety]

@@colmmcgovern4915 Mehdi is the best journalist ever 😵

[@linano1]

Great people both Mehdi + TMR, & may everyone be rewarded the same future they wish upon the innocent Pal families ☮❤