Mehdi Hasan DESTROYS Suella Braverman - And So Much More

Mehdi Hasan is second to none when it comes to debating, and so his new book - Win Every Argument - is a must read. Here, he talks to me about why the left can be so bad at convincing people of its arguments; he tears Tory racism to pieces; points out the outrageous hypocrisy of the BBC over Gary Lineker - and warns that US democracy may yet succumb to fascism.
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[@thealternativeview2692]

This was unwatchable because of all the ads. They were literally every 2 mins.

[@teacwarren6849]

😂😂​@@thealternativeview2692 😊😊😊

[@NerdWasi]

Just did😁

[@sjonm]

@@thealternativeview2692 skip and watch skip and watch! or try to listen to Patreon

[@revol148]

@@thealternativeview2692 .....it wasn't just the ads that made the whole thing unwatchable - trust me !

[@bilpat5123]

Problem is Braverman thinks she is white British.... she hasn't looked in the mirror lately,

[@besthear3284]

I'm brown and I endorse this message ,👌🏾

[@ahmd-mi9964]

I'm Indian/brown south Asian and I approve this message and am ashamed of such brown people who whip up hatred, fears and more misunderstandings to further their careers.

[@tubetaz]

Yep!! She’s a coconut, white on the inside and brown on the outside. 😂

[@user-gn8lm3xy4j]

She hates Africans just like her parents will have done!

[@786_uk-ak47]

Exactly 🤣

[@wtf1965]

Corbyn, the best labour PM we were never allowed!

[@paulrailton2221]

He blew the election because of the woke agender helped by Mr. Jones.

[@hectorbartlett567]

... Touche

[@leslie-annmills-gomez8763]

Well said

[@petesingh6092]

Agree , a man with humanity

[@Sthmohtwenty]

But he had cross yeiii lol

[@anthonysmith8800]

Mehdi and Owen. What an absolute treat! Really enjoyable chat gents.

[@lestrem11]

Very funny child, it is sarcasm….right?

[@user-rp4ot3gr5r]

⁠@@lestrem11I also think so. They are two very painful clowns. I don’t know why they move so much, when they talk. They make me dizzy. I can never end watching their podcasts. They talk too much rubbish. Sorry.

[@TheHouseofcoolstuff]

@@user-rp4ot3gr5rjealous much? Jealousy is evil so quit hating because NO one cares about your hateful, insecurities feeble self.

[@ghulamhussain687]

An absolute delight to see/hear 2 journalists. Thank you guys.

[@anthonydonlan3140]

​@@lestrem11you don't know that you don't know, I thought I'd let you know.

[@Kelly-qy4yr]

“It’s easier to kick down than to kick up” - Mehdi is 100% spot on about this.

[@DominicGudgeon]

Yes it was actually more cynical than that: it’s easier to kick down and KISS up I believe he said

[@halgreen1428]

Didn't he say ,it's easier to kick down than kiss up? This

[@Kelly-qy4yr]

@@halgreen1428 yes. it was a typo. 🙄

[@Lincoln_Bio]

"Kick down and kiss up" is the perfect summary of the Tory ethos

[@Sthmohtwenty]

Kick down and booted out more like it

[@twoshea749]

There’s no difference between Torries and Labour - just like there’s no difference between Demonrats and Republithugs- just different distractions to feed the culture wars - WEF and the world govt runs the West - it’s long been a global oligarchy -

[@DAVJULART]

"The hypocrisy is as brazen as it is nauseating!". I couldn't agree more!

[@helenswan705]

"Like taking a calculator to a knife fight". excellent metaphor. Fantastic interview thanks

[@brendawilliams1687]

I've much enjoyed Medhi's visit, a sad loss to U.K. journalism.

[@treyquattro]

he's showing the American lapdogs how to be a proper journalist. Not sure they'll learn the lesson though - too complacent with power, too well-off from it.

[@johnlewis9158]

Journalism lollllllllllll

[@geekylove3603]

​@@treyquattro Only his part in Covid scepticism witch hunts has let him down.

[@amberlight5830]

​@@geekylove3603 what kind of scepticism?

[@amberlight5830]

​@@geekylove3603 what kind of scepticism?

[@peterdoran922]

I have a relative who spent years on zero hours contracts, lost loads of jobs during that time, votes Tory because he hates ethnic minority and immigrants and not the people who kept him on zero hours contracts. Concluded that his hate overrides everything else.

[@LindaLee-xn8bb]

But those zero hours contract jobs exist because of the endless labour market of mass immigration!! Stop gaslighting working class people… They can see the problem, even if you can’t!!

[@Areflection4]

Jaysus, ur relative needs a life!!

[@freyanoor6794]

That is the narrative they ant to feed us. Divide the working class and rule and get rich in the process.

[@MrJimiJK]

😂😂😂 'kept on zero hour'! What a loser, he should vote Labour theyd love him and are full of all the actual racists who are obsessed with race.

[@barbarahamme2760]

I watch his Sunday show on MSNBC, here in the USA, and think he’s one of the very best 👏🏻👏🏻

[@Loner-Wolf]

As a British Indian I totally agree with Medhi about racism amongst ethnic minorities. There is plenty of racism amongst 'us lot' not only towards others minorities and foreigners but also towards white people.

[@gladyslustgirdle3004]

An interesting comment, Sir. My time living and working outside of the English speaking world has led me to the same conclusion. Yet it is only the English speaking world that beats itself up about this.

[@jackwilliam2965]

​@@gladyslustgirdle3004 Racism is a mentality not a colour. Unfortunately white people think it is a white problem. It happens in every colour stereotyping each other. Seeing our differences rather than 'the things we have in common. Dehumanise each other like a black dog treats white dog differently and white dog treats a black differently.

[@tricksie88]

There is a big but here, white society historically are much more violent to non whites. Other cultures worst they do is stare.

[@revol148]

@@gladyslustgirdle3004 a lot of that has to do with the self loathing a lot of white people have of themselves !

[@Sakkir_Stahma]

@@gladyslustgirdle3004 An interesting comment, Gladys. There must be something lovely about speaking English.

[@Msnando09]

Agree with Owen. You really are needed here!

[@jenifernaidoo7231]

Thoughtful and considerate people are hard to find these days... Thank you gentlemen

[@mn7024]

Would be interesting to see their take on the subjugated sections in Nigeria and turning of blind eye by their international friends to the horrible situation 😊

[@babymonalisa]

Owen and Medhi😍🥳 Excellent stuff, as always👍Medhi, come back!!!

[@gerryburntwood9617]

With ash saker, Michael walker and Aaron Bastani!

[@Angie-iq1xq]

26 mins of brilliance! I do watch Mehdi's American show regularly, so you having him on yours.....love it! Thank you Owen 👏🏽

[@adamgrimsley2900]

​@@delver1857 really did you see the debate where he says he believed a man went to heaven on a winged horse?

[@adamgrimsley2900]

@@delver1857 i dont think he said that. I think he said he believes in the potential thats very different. Plus hes not a physicist.

[@ouagadougou4672]

Haha! Yay! Two favorites on one screen! Thank you both for teaching truth. "For the first time, the rank and file democrats identify with the Palestinians over Israel"!!!!! LONG TIME COMING! So tragic that it took a full-on genocide. But, thank decency that it is finally becoming clear.

[@juliejeavons6949]

I’d argue that Corbyn did have that ability to inspire the youth on an emotional level.

[@jayneyaghmour7320]

Agreed.

[@mariogmajner6549]

@@jayneyaghmour7320 As did Tony Benn.

[@paulhammond6978]

Yes. I did wonder why Hasan left him out in that discussion. I've got a memory of Corbyn appearing at Glastonbury and the crowd chanting "Oh Jeremy Corbyn!" at him, and he certainly inspired a lot of young people to join the Labour party. I guess you could argue that he failed in his appeal to potential voters, but he was clearly an inspiring grass roots leader.

[@Lincoln_Bio]

He left in 2015 so I guess he missed that

[@sarahjaneross2918]

Yep 🎉

[@tomtheeagle1]

Watch Mehdi regularly show up American journalism as being ineffectual and weak. Really miss his perspective on our politics. I don't always agree with him but he is a real journalist who always turns up prepared and asks the right questions.

[@alanpattinson6211]

You should read your comment again, it contradicts itself.

[@Marvellous132]

@@alanpattinson6211 How?

[@alanpattinson6211]

@@Marvellous132 Sorry I miss read the first sentence.

[@symatzar6945]

I miss read it also. So i understand where u coming from.

[@paulconnelly4050]

Two awesome journalists. Integrity and common sense. This is up there with Owen interviewing Peter Hitchens.

[@NoHandles333]

This discussion was amazing. Very deep dive. Very obvious ways they spit in the public's face.

[@pakitan6740]

Being a Kenyan Asian , i can say no Asian was driven out of Kenya ,If Suella Braverman claims this it is totally false. Asians were kicked out of Uganda. Bravermans parents would be economic migrants.

[@Sthmohtwenty]

I wonder to know the same thing ...I never hear any indias got kicked out from Kenya...

[@Koloviv48i]

​@@SthmohtwentyIt was a mistake , Media mearnt Uganda. These young India girls like Priti Patel and Bravaman brought their anger of their parents been kick out of Uganda. Just pure hypocrisy and evil these two girls.

[@Koloviv48i]

Nevertheless Brava and Priti Patel are just two very angry girls because of the plight of their parents been kicked out of East Africa.

[@oystercatcher943]

Wise words. I’m struck by the absurdity of Braverman simultaneously being proud of Britain welcoming refugees in the past but completely scrapping those policies. It’s absurd!

[@oldishandwoke-ish1181]

She has always struck me as a stooge - she says whatever her paymasters want her to say.

[@therealrobertbirchall]

@@oldishandwoke-ish1181 she says whatever she thinks will wind up the proles.

[@tenniskinsella7768]

Bravermzn is correct in trying to stop illegal immigrants THEY ARE NOT REFUGEES 69 million people I thiscountry I think that's enough for our small-size France is twice the size of us why don't they go there got more room y agree with the traffickers.

[@judeirwin2222]

It’s revolting and despicable.

[@youtubeyoutube936]

Maybe you ought to understand what refugee means? Certainly don’t equate with my experience on such camps in Africa. Of women children older men. Where were the young me? Well over the border fighting. But yea I guess if there was a war here the men would move to a safe country and leave the women and children which is exactly what has happened with the Ukraine right? Yep all females 18-60 have to remain but all the men have been able to leave. Hooray for equality!

[@lorrainewest8264]

The weather may be bleak, but the conversation is brilliant, illuminating, exciting and encourages hope.

[@tahirahmed7539]

Two heavy weight titans of journalism

[@lornalow7479]

I been watching Mehdi for a while, he's the real deal

[@benfisher1376]

​@@JohnSmith-it6hj That was ridiculous.

[@christopherunwin1412]

Brilliant interview..top marks for both Mehdi & Owen😊

[@taquiarazvi785]

Great journalist. Very authentic. well prepared and thoughtfully organized.

[@josiesmalling8460]

two bright sparks gosh you guys should be running this country

[@mimitchoungui2856]

Thank youuuuuu so much Owen ❤ For the great interview with Mehdi !👏 I say it before, I say it again you Owen and other young like James O'brien, NOVARA MEDIA give me HOPE in British JOURNALISM!❤ PLEASE OWEN can you do the LABOUR PARTY A FAVOUR by IMPLICATING yourself a little bit more and directly COACHING the young leaders YOURSELF🙏.because with Keir Starmer the Labour Party is going NOWHERE...😢😢😢

[@PanglossDr]

The bottom line on emotions in politics is that it is far easier to instil fear and hatred in people than love and understanding.

[@davidhall1273]

It is a matter of patriotism ! every nation has the legal right to protect it's borders from invaders ! It is like Ukraine but without the guns !

[@beegnutz]

The government is more of a danger to the people than a boat full of Afghan interpreters.

[@johnlewis9158]

Yes but do we really need a lesson on love and understanding from the likes of Medhi Hasan garbage human being that he is. Indeed Owen once again gives air to a individual who i wouldn't piss on if he were on fire

[@qlnbd]

I like the James O'brien analogy; it's easier to sell tickets for the ghost train than the speak your weight machine.

[@PanglossDr]

@@davidhall1273 So fomenting hatred and fear are now patriotism? Also, I despise your use of the word invaders.

[@manpalsoin5943]

This guy is hitting the nail on the head

[@MaxMisterC]

Why are so many people gullible, fallible, hateful & dangerous?

[@mkirsia]

Some people are simply right wing no matter their colour!! Also as a west Indian we are very familiar with the racism of Indian subcontinent peoples. Shella is just a self- loather

[@j.w8680]

I believe it's called 'internalised oppression'...

[@munni333]

Very informative discussion. Mehdi, comeback! We need you here in the U.K.

[@andyhodchild8]

Fabulous Medhi, never seen you before, I have followed.

[@mallehkeita8445]

Great man, keep it up. Thank you

[@Gooner184]

The conflation with liberal and left is nauseating. On what planet are people like Obama, Clinton, Blair or Starmer left wing?

[@TranquiloTrev]

In the USA they are definitely left. Often viewed as extreme left. I know it doesn't make any sense to a Brit.

[@Emanon...]

Here in Denmark, they'd all be considered center right

[@paulhammond6978]

I think the point is to include the liberals as part of the "fact based community". I mean, I'm not quite sure I can imagine how you can have a discussion where you *can't* talk about Blair, Obama or Clinton as examples of people who have in recent memory been able to do the feels which Hasan is saying is a missing factor in progressive circles.

[@jaykaygxd8497]

@@TranquiloTrev only because of how far right American politics has become

[@jaykaygxd8497]

They’re not leftists they all uphold the status quo of neoliberal policies under the social democratic model of having some social safety nets, liberals are conservative in every way apart from maybe bi partisan views on social issues

[@bibiwooz6433]

I love brother Mehdi excellent discussion & so owen❤❤❤ We want more Mehdi discussion.

[@hrhrae1959]

I'm really glad we have Mehdi Hasan in the US. I never want him to leave!😊

[@NerdWasi]

I've followed Mehdi since i saw him interview Richard Dawkins on Al-Jazeera it was absolutely the best interview I've seen and i became a fan.

[@sarahcameron8279]

Corbyn gave us hope & spoke to our hearts - he really inspires people. Medhi is wrong about Corbyn & it’s annoying that he sweeps him & his HUGE influence aside.

[@jayhenderson5458]

He fails to see that Corbyn was up against scheming and powerful detractors. Afraid I was not impressed by this guy.

[@DayVid2.0]

Two of my favourite journalists ❤️

[@fasih_rehman]

Mehdi hitting the nail on head as usual!

[@Steventrafford]

Glad Mehdi is still admired. Always liked his style and combative interviewing

[@blackpanthar906]

He is like a rare diamond that only gets more valuable with time.

[@Xmifi_]

What he and few other do is journalism.

[@kanedNunable]

he is now. you might want to look at his past tho. if you always liked him you might need to re-assess ;)

[@Steventrafford]

@@kanedNunable people grow and change. His work the last 10 years has been why I’m a fan.

[@JaKommenterar]

@@kanedNunable There’s nothing controversial there, stop exaggerating and cherry picking.

[@oblomofff]

Glad to see you together!

[@nazirvania9365]

Excellent interview , Mehdi and Owen fead off each other ! Mehdi Hassan, I miss you not being in the UK !

[@garybaker4722]

Yet another brilliant video!

[@mickelsmickle8668]

You are special. Man Owen really appreciate you

[@johncarroll772]

Mehdi Hasan talking to Richard Dawkins is worth watching 😳

[@samyengland7244]

wow..as a believer thanks for letting me know about this..I will go watch it now ...

[@aha1757]

@@samyengland7244 that was the only debate he did not win.

[@taherabunama4559]

​@@aha1757he won indeed

[@stephenbain389]

Basically we are thick. We can be easily manipulated by scare mongering.

[@augustineriley5582]

Brilliant! come home Medi! Peace, Gus :)

[@sajh4280]

Two great men with values 👍🏼

[@arunsalwan8558]

Pure bigotry in what Braverman said . You shouldn’t be hesitant to prosecute minorities but words matter

[@leoanazemi3797]

You guys are great 🌹🙏

[@drzakirnaiksir2678]

Mehdi Hasan is Mehdi Hasan.... there is no alternative, no level, or no opposition on this platform.......he is genius

[@Sthmohtwenty]

Like Andrew tate

[@alkhemiegypt]

Mehdi is one of my favourite political pundits/speakers. Great to see him on the show.

[@adamgrimsley2900]

The world needs more political pundits and fewer humble journalists

[@ivanbaird2747]

Suella of all people should know you don't need no passport when you are flying in on a broomstick!

[@Sthmohtwenty]

What r saying ....her parents were a w.........

[@jamesregiste960]

She reminds me of Griselda of the Terra hawks!😊😅😮😂😢

[@jamesregiste960]

She reminds of Griselda!😊😅😂

[@MarilenaVazquez]

Love you Mehdi! An amazing commentator. And Owen, love your channel. Thank you for all you do.

[@reimmukhtarmohamedahmedalh8329]

Owen and Mahdi Hassan the best you can see in journalism and best England produced .

[@yilsener3908]

Yes its true Suella is a hyprocrite...

[@TheWiseJames]

If only politics dealt with facts instead of a belief of a fact you would never have a culture war.

[@Echo-jg8is]

Politics is Difference by definition so...

[@TheWiseJames]

@@Echo-jg8is Yer but facts are not.

[@jamesleon4883]

Sorry can you elaborate on that?

[@Echo-jg8is]

@@jamesleon4883 politics is division by definition, so if you deal in objective facts then there is no politics involved...

[@TheWiseJames]

@@jamesleon4883 Elaborate on what? the difference between an opinion and a fact are you for real lmao?

[@colinbrigham8253]

Thank you Owen and mehdi 😊

[@faizasyed2525]

This was a great watch!

[@ainiarif6910]

The hypocrisy is as “brazen as it is nauseating” 7:30

[@nighatullah3857]

i enjoy listening to Owen Jones & Medhi. The journalist.

[@SCS-1964]

Mehdi is one of my favorite news pundits on mainstream news here in America.

[@adamgrimsley2900]

You dont think you don't have enough pundits?

[@mick947]

We all have our crosses to bear.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

He's a real journalist & is anchoring his own show & fills in as anchor on other shows. Sometimes he''s a guest. But he's not a "pundit".

[@SCS-1964]

@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 He was a journalist in the fields for Al-Jazeera years ago but now he is a "pundit" or "commentary person" ....Definition of pundit>>>> A pundit is a person who offers mass media opinion or commentary on a particular subject area (most typically politics, the social sciences, technology or sport). Cheers

[@harrypalmer3481]

This was an interview that did, surprisingly, end on a significantly hopeful note. Thank you gentlemen.

[@craigmuncie2634]

Always liked Mehdi! Great speaker and debater

[@martinstevens5892]

Thank you for saying out loud that black and brown people can be racist.

[@Coelacanth1]

All humans can for all humans practice various forms of hierarchy to ensure survival of the group or the individual by way of the group

[@gerryburntwood9617]

Not so much racist as prejudice, if you actually understand racism you’ll find that it’s an absolute legacy of European colonialism which is still with us via institutional and systemic racism! Yes POC can be prejudice but not racist, as their prejudice doesn’t remove white privilege and thinking nor affects white people like systemic and institutional racism does!

[@jaxcoss5790]

Why did he have to ge thanked for that?! 🤔🤔

[@permabear6025]

@@gerryburntwood9617Imagine thinking that non-white people can’t be racist…Haven’t travelled much have you?

[@permabear6025]

Everyone outside a far left Twitter echo chamber already knows how racist “people of colour” can be…

[@thruknobulaxii2020]

How nice to see that we haven’t been forgotten 😃

[@mozhgansavabieasfahani7560]

Why did MSNBC offer Mehdi Hassan a platform for his views? Because Mr. Mehdi Hassan frames his questions in a way that is not offensive to the establishment. Mr. Hassan doesn't pose any threat to the major media account of events. So, he is welcomed to their circles. In fact Hassan creates an elusion that MSNBC types are open and inclusive, when they are anything but.

[@fabiofernandes9122]

no its bcs mehdi agrees with their views. thats all. they want to stay in their political bubbles.

[@user-ln3kh3ku4u]

So well said thank u guys .great insight .

[@Quebecoisegal]

Anyone who had heard Braverman's rants in Parliament when she was attorney general knew precisely what was coming.

[@benjaminsagan5861]

If you two want to talk more, I will *always* want to hear it. About almost any subject.

[@bibiwooz6433]

I love Mehdi & Owen discussion

[@nowthenzen]

there is a disturbing trend to mythologize Adolf Hitler, like 'never before and never' since. This is simply not true. Hitler was a singular person (as we really all are) but not unique.

[@JayMonk595]

Bought the book and a few of yours as well. Another great episode, thanks 🙏🏿

[@zoharianovici1983]

Yayyyyyyy 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 always a pleasure

[@diggerman00007]

Change never comes from the Top down Change always comes from the bottom up

[@gourighosh4167]

Why he is not lecturing Tukey as well?

[@rayh3404]

Yes it's "we are all on board"pulĺ the ladder up

[@antonysherry4267]

Hahaha, yes Owen! "You pushed the escape button." Hilarious.

[@hekikoka5792]

the man titled his book “Win every argument…”. What if I’m seeking the truth and trying to discover something new and in the process be willing to “lose the argument”

[@gordondavies7773]

If at the end of an argument you have discovered a truth then all participants have 'won'

[@ShiftyGeeza]

I don't think he'd sell many books if he titled it "Win some arguments".

[@hawa3087]

@@ShiftyGeeza there’s a reason why he named it ‘ Win Every Argument ’ u can watch his other video as he explains why

[@Areflection4]

Excellent discussion. Always liked Mehdi, a wee bit contrary and I lamented his fall from LBC but when he is on fire as with this discussion, he is brilliant. PS, I called it for Trump in 2016 because I knew he hit THE nerve with American working class 😅

[@radicalbyte]

I called Brexit (applied for Dutch nationality a year before the vote, got it 6 months before) and Trump. The former was obvious to anyone who has seen the Mail / Sun. The latter anyone who thought that Americans would vote for female nepotism.

[@skyblazeeterno]

@@radicalbyte Brexit and Trump were NOT obvious as both went to the wire and sadly the 2 bad outcomes went over the lines

[@andrewhoult4630]

well said 👏👏

[@leepop79]

At 5:42, Mehdi says the Tories have elected 2 female prime ministers. How could he have forgotten our Liz's 45 days of power so easily!!!!

[@skyblazeeterno]

Its weird that hes playing identity politics there - not impressed with Medhi at all

[@coraltaylor8159]

An excellent interview.

[@jlewis2890]

We have seen this in mick lynch who uses facts but can rouse a crowd

[@graceomalley4]

Listening to it on audible. Super book

[@kevinhay3778]

Thanks for blowing away this concept Wrong is wrong black or white this or that 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@lubnarasul6371]

Two brilliant men respect ✌🏼✌🏼

[@neilfraser4761]

Smart chap.

[@sarabevan3468]

He's a heck of a speaker.

[@skyblazeeterno]

Im not seeing that tbh...yes he has that slightly plummy voice of the Oxbridge educated...his content is not that interesting

[@sarabevan3468]

@@skyblazeeterno I've seen a lot of him lately-as he has a book out, (obvs 🙄) and I'm quite liking him.

[@tonyburton419]

Honest insight here....the potential USA future is more than a little concerning.

[@stealthclothingco7857]

Legend !!!!

[@nasirfazal]

decent journalism still exists!

[@shanethomas6368]

WE HAVE NO DEMOCRACY. …THE FACT THAT HE DOESN’T ACKNOWLEDGE THAT RELEGATES THIS GUY TO A DEM CHEERLEADER.

[@jayneyaghmour7320]

Two wonderful journalists.

[@mick947]

I thought Owen was a fair journalist, but I’m surprised at how fawning his interview was with Mehdi and his placid acceptance of everything Mehdi said. Very shocked. Have a look at Mehdi’s claims about Taibbi.. and follow that through to the truth. As far as I know Mehdi hasn’t apologised yet!

[@NK-ht3fo]

Thank you❤