Mel Gibson's WILD God-Beliefs Make No Sense... Here's Why

[@michaelnewsham1412]

Having lived in Taiwan for 35 years, and lived and travelled throughout Asia for ten more, I have met many people who have quit drinking, smoking, and drugs thanks to Buddha, the Tao, Allah, various Hindu gods, allegiance to Chairman Mao etc. Also, after smoking heavily for over 40 years, my mother quit cold turkey. She had a boss whom she hated, and her boss spent a lot of money on a stop-smoking program. My mother said she could quit any time without some fancy program, her boss bet her she couldn't, and she quit that very day. My sister and I had begged her for years to stop, but she finally quit out of pure spite. Motivations have different causes.

[@katiebarber407]

at least chairman mao is real and had some good ideas

[@JDC352]

Good to hear you agree with Mel.

[@ramigilneas9274]

@@JDC352 I am not sure if Mel thinks that Jesus helps just as much against addictions as every other made up gods.

[@FoursWithin]

​@@JDC352 Please time stamp where Mel says spite can cure a smoking addiction just as well as his 1st century Jewish Messiah .

[@vtblda]

My brother was an heroine junky and stopped using that fatal drug just because he fell in love with his present wife that was a drug addict by that time in the same treatment facility. No need for supranatural intervention or anything weird going around. Just pure love and motivation. That was 30 years ago and they're still happily married! Makes you wonder, doesn't it?

[@Merrick]

Addicts who then "find god" are a special kind of annoying

[@jessicawilson1751]

They replace one addiction with another

[@caffetiel]

He was raised Cath, I thought?

[@gabiausten8774]

Exactly, like they have so little faith in their own abilities that they need a stand in. Why can’t u just see your wonderful ability to change your own life, no matter how hard or impossible it seemed? I think they are scared of their own might, if it’s a miracle, it’s a one off, if it was your own doing, nothing could stop you and there would be no excuses.

[@rolfskytte]

No. People with pain seek pleasure. It shows them the shallow nature of that pursuit. It get worse and worse. Sometimes addicts and troubled souls are forced to see the spiritual nature of our existence through pain and pleasure. Through battle. You have no idea. God is good.

[@AlexFry-p4t]

@@rolfskytte God made them that way

[@iemy2949]

“The Darwin thing? I don’t really go for it…” Superb analysis Mel.

[@blazerdude89]

"Critical Thinking"? Mel's not a fan of it.

[@OscarSommerbo]

I wonder what he would think of me saying, "The god thing? I don't really go for it....."

[@Zlist1994]

@@OscarSommerboBLASPHEMY! lol

[@jdms65]

Pack it up biologists, it’s over.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

"it's okay mel, i don't really go for your BS either"

[@surfk9836]

Every Christian thinks their version of Christianity is the right one.

[@FoursWithin]

Every single one. All 2 billion. Ironic how few of them know anything about early Christianity.

[@colonizedgrain4034]

@@FoursWithinoh yes, but YOU know everything about it…. This entire comment section is garbage

[@corn3549]

@@surfk9836 Did not Darwin, a practicing Catholic , think his version of evolution was correct? But Lamarck disagreed with Darwin and believed in a different version of evolution. They certainly believed their theories were correct and found faults and error in each other's beliefs. Why can't scientist agree on everything. Who's theories is the right one? Darwin or Lamarck?

[@FoursWithin]

@@colonizedgrain4034 "but YOU know everything about it" With wild conclusions such as that I get why you're so confused. Maybe stick around and learn a thing or two.

[@FoursWithin]

@@corn3549 That's a valid question. scientific disagreements are usually grounded in the pursuit of objective truth through evidence and experimentation, with the potential for resolution over time. Theological disagreements, however, often stem from differing interpretations of subjective, faith-based beliefs that often can't be resolvable through empirical methods. Therefore, disagreements in science are typically more about expanding knowledge, while theologians disagreeing is often about understanding or interpreting principles that may not be grounded in verifiable evidence.

[@joemyers3885]

As a historian and professor of history who has watched this channel for years "Mel Gibson actively hates history and wants to kill it" may be the funniest thing I've heard from a non-Pauline source.

[@christophertablante7680]

One of the most vital experiences that got me sober from a decade from cocaine and heroin use was the shatterin of my faith becauze without an afterlife, the fear of dying from fentanyl became more real and permanent. It was channels like Paulogia that helped my rebuild a sense of reality and identity to keep going, to rebuild, to climb out of the pit with no god and no drugs that ive lived clean for 3 years now

[@publicutility]

Solidarity.

[@TheMcmansilla]

we all love Paulogia, happy to hear of thoose 3 years! keep it up! cheers from Argentina

[@OscarSommerbo]

Well done!! Keep up the work. I am physically addicted to tramadol, a synthetic opioid. I kick it about one a year just to prove to myself I don't need it for anything but the pain. To me, it is relatively easy, but I have seen others get stuck on opioids and then turn to heroin, so I know it is tough to break that cycle.

[@christophertablante7680]

@@OscarSommerbo Yikes! I spent time in another country that sold tramadol and codeine over the counter for about a dime a 50mg pill.. I can personally attest that Tramadol has its own unique difficulties when trying to quit. I experienced more negative symptoms and painful sensations in my head, particularly the back. I'm very proud to hear you're able beat back that beast. Just the memory of the suffering you all go through rings all too familiar. Unified by scars! One day at a time, for as long as we still have breath, we can pick ourselves up and start again.

[@riseofdarkleela]

💪🏼So much better to become free on your own terms.

[@01Aigul]

Mel Gibson called Jewish people "oven dodgers", but people like Rogan platform him without ever asking about it. Also, picking "the most evil thing the Catholic Church has done" would be REALLY hard.

[@Florkl]

I don’t think that was ever definitively proven. Joe seems to be more about having conversations than shutting down an interview by antagonistically pushing for confessions based on hearsay. Even if there’s a lot of hearsay.

[@pansepot1490]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Florkl if it was never proven the more reason for asking. If asking for the interviewee’s position on damaging rumors that circulate about them is “shutting down the interview”, it means that the interviewee has a guilty conscience. Sure, let’s interview the Austrian painter but let’s limit our questions to art and family life because asking him about his passion for baking would be seen as too confrontational. I don’t like an aggressive style of interview but on the other hand, interviewers who sell people to the public purposefully ignoring their major flaws to make them look good regardless are deeply unethical.

[@zeendaniels5809]

​@@Florkl Joe just wants the audience. Say it as it is.

[@theflyingdutchguy9870]

Oven dodgers is messed up on a whole different level, damn!

[@whatevername8551]

​@@pansepot1490 perfect

[@Mikemenn]

This is the classic Paulogia type episodes I love the most: concise, full of clips, good references, etc. *applause*

[@Paulogia]

thank you. that means much.

[@kyleepratt]

Paul's ability to find perfect clips is quite impressive.

[@Mikemenn]

@@kyleepratt He's actually said how he does that in the past unless he's changed his methods: ShannonQ does the clip finding. It's a team effort!

[@vincentpauly7850]

Agreed. I went into it expecting not to finish. An hour of Mel Gibson? But I stayed for the whole episode. Well done.

[@sangieredwolf]

It'd be better without all the random movie clips....

[@DoctorBiobrain]

34:58 Mel Gibson doesn’t accept evolution because he thinks his gut tells him that non-human animals aren’t smart enough to survive. Incredible.

[@jackjackal1768]

he said so many dumbs things but that was prob the dumbest of all the things said by him.

[@AV57]

He’s a shining example of why and how speciesists are seduced by theism.

[@kerianhalcon3557]

You know I never knew Gibson was a complete moron, but that sentence and the way he said evil-loution was an eye opener. Like what a dipshit! I try not watching anything regarding him ever since the passion came out, and I try to not hit the algorithm for his nonsense as best I can. Obviously I watch this because it is Paulogia.

[@leothenomad5675]

​@@kerianhalcon3557I noticed that pronunciation also.

[@mactallica9293]

"I don't feel like I'm an ape and my ancestors had to be pretty smart to survive" Ummm is he aware that apes are alive today too. How did they survive

[@Paulogia]

ha! great point

[@kerianhalcon3557]

They didn't. Don't you watch Barnabus? They are all fake don't you know. Or was that his brother Hans? I get them mixed up.

[@markhackett2302]

@@kerianhalcon3557 And we never see them in the same room together.....

[@elaineclift2227]

His ancestors had to be smarter than he is....

[@gregczarlinski2811]

We are apes

[@Chelo176]

He went back to alcohol several times, I don't think he went back to smoking. Therefore Alan Carr > God

[@HarryNicNicholas]

@@TommyOrigami me! me! me! oh sorry, my mistake.

[@myoneblackfriend3151]

“Science, people.”

[@riseofdarkleela]

If only he knew Allan Carr wrote The Easyway to Stop Drinking as well. (It was one of the things I used during the year I was quitting alcohol without steps or higher powers.)

[@RunesandReapers]

Lol this is a great comment.

[@goBadgers1995right]

LMAO!!! 🤣😂

[@snaptrap5558]

I love how he talks about apostasy being a "falling away from" but Christianity is an apostasy from Judaism

[@davidhoffman6980]

Which is an apostasy from the Canaanite worship of the pantheon led by El.

[@kittyind]

Nice perspective.

[@JasonHenderson]

@@snaptrap5558 It's just like Christians saying you have to read the Old testament through the lens of the New testament. Well, I tell them they have to read the New testament through the lens of the book of Mormon.

[@moodyrick8503]

I wouldn't say Christianity "fell away", but that they were Jews who believed the messiah, (Jesus) actually came, and so added that onto their religion turning it into Christianity. But more interestingly, _Jesus was a Jew,_ which puts Mel's anit semetic beliefs in an odd light.

[@JasonHenderson]

@@moodyrick8503 no they didn't, what you're describing is Messianic Jews. Christianity is what Paul believed. It's Paulianity.

[@Merrick]

It sounds like what made Mel stop smoking was his doctor telling him he has emphysema. Why not just keep smoking and use ivermectin to cure the emphysema?

[@polystrate1]

emphysema is a structural issue.

[@Merrick]

@@polystrate1 please explain

[@polystrate1]

@ ivermectin isn't going to regrow new tissue

[@publicutility]

Sarcasm? Ivermectin doesn't treat viral illness either. Not going to explain the connection further. ✌

[@polystrate1]

@ but it does treat cancer

[@rachelfey]

I'm genetically predisposed to alcohol abuse too, and I quit because it made my life way worse. Stop crediting other beings for things you did.

[@riseofdarkleela]

Yes, I look at people I met five years ago that went the higher power route and they are still struggling and thinking about alcohol or addiction issues all the time. I just moved on to making music and made a new set of friends, not having a twinge of desire for drinking or that life.

[@jennyanydots2389]

@@riseofdarkleela Drinking excessive amounts of alcohol, particularly alone, is really good for a person's physical and mental well being. Full credit to the baby jesus for helping me find a cure for sobriety. I hope you guys will join me in my quest to lower the drinking age to 5 years old.

[@corn3549]

@@rachelfey So you quit for different reasons. Mel prayed to God to be delivered from alcoholism. And he gave credit to God. You quit because you willed yourself to quit. What is the problem here?

[@rachelfey]

@@corn3549 My point is he DID will himself out it, and that he's selling himself short by giving that credit away. His situation looks the same whether there's a god or not: he made the decision to stop while praying to stop.

[@AnnoyingNewsletters]

13:40 _Shroud of Turin..._ That herringbone pattern in the fabric wasn't even possible *_UNTIL_* the types of looms used in the Middle Ages, when the artist created it in homage to the stories in the gospels. While popes have visited the shroud, none of them have recognized it as an official relic, despite recognizing enough so-called fragments of the True Cross to build a gazebo, and enough official foreskins of Jesus to make a parachute.

[@EvilXtianity]

The Shroud's weave is a three hop (3-over-1) herringbone twill which wasn’t used prior to the Middle Ages. No examples of its complex herringbone weave are known from the purported time of Jesus when, in any case, burial cloths tended to be of plain weave. In addition, Jewish burial practice utilized-and the Gospel of John specifically describes for Jesus-multiple burial wrappings with a separate cloth over the face.

[@theCommentDevil]

And there were multiple shrouds in that time, it was common for churches to have the same or similar relics in multiple churches as a way to bring people. It was all marketing

[@alexander211974]

😅

[@danielschaeffer1294]

There’s also the fact that the arms and fingers are wildly disproportionate and deformed.

[@EvilXtianity]

@@danielschaeffer1294 The anatomical proportions of the figure depicted on the Shroud do not match those of an actual human, but do conform to the proportions of the Gothic art of the Fourteenth Century. On a typical human the head from the top of the eyebrows to the top of the skull forms around 40% of the head. But on the Shroud the head from the eyebrows up forms only 25% of the head. This shortening of the upper part of the head is a typical anatomical mistake made by first-time life artists. Further, the head is 5% too large for the body.

[@gilbertalvarado5101]

The moral of the story: if you put it in a book Mel will believe it.

[@istvansipos9940]

I doubt it. All the Hindu deities are put in books, for example. Mel would not believe a word from those books.

[@gilbertalvarado5101]

@ the trick is convincing him to read it.

[@bartfeather6176]

You made me spit out my coffee!😂😂😂

[@videogamecin]

Mel went full wasteland-style terminal crazy fr. He became Mad Mel

[@guitarizard]

Have his son give it to him 🤔

[@maxmac7845]

Mel always looks as if he's about to have a full meltdown.

[@kyleepratt]

Hopefully most women and Jewish folks are able to steer clear of him now, given the specific history of his meltdowns

[@Stormy-pe2xc]

Maybe because of what he's seen and experienced in the Hollyweird scene all those years. So much darkness behind the curtains most of us have no clue about. Maybe he's looked deeper into it than the majority of actors, and the drinking helps what he knows go away temporarily. Most have a reason why they drink too much.

[@maxmac7845]

@ Or it could be his alcoholism and antisemitism.

[@DundaMifflin]

he looks burned out for sure

[@MyReligionIs2DoGood]

Weird - almost 3 years ago I stopped my heavy smoking (2 packs a day) cold turkey after 35 years - and I needed neither a book nor a religion, and for sure no miracle to do it. To everyone who reads this and tries to stop as well: I am not particularly strong-willed or special in any way - if I could do it, YOU can do it, too. All the best to you! When it comes to the shroud, I think the biggest problem is the fact that EVEN IF it would be 2,000 years old, this would NOT be evidence that the person imprinted was Jesus.

[@istvansipos9940]

and even if the shroud was PROVEN to be a djeezus imprint, we still would not know what a deity is. The entire shroud topic would not even touch the deity topic in any way.

[@finestPlugins]

I tried stopping a few times. Eventually a heart attack with two months in hospital due to complications did the trick. My partner just stopped from one day to the next out solidarity. Not everybody is the same.

[@Stormy-pe2xc]

Congratulations, that is quite a feat and very rare to hear. Sounds pretty strong willed to me, your higher self maybe? I like your religion!

[@Humorless_Wokescold]

Same boat, man. Although for me it was moving from NC to NY. My miserliness wasn't about to let me pay $12 a pack and my social anxiety wasn't about to let me buy them from shady guys on the street (not to mention all they ever had were Newports). So after trying to make it work for a month, I just stopped.

[@MyReligionIs2DoGood]

@@Stormy-pe2xc If I was so strong-willed, why did I not stop decades ago when I already wanted to? 😉 However, thank you for the kind words.

[@MidwestFella854]

As a recovering heroin addict, I can tell you this: -There is no god -The BELIEF in god can help people -The reality is, you always had the strength to quit, but you just never believed in yourself Recovery is possible! God is not.

[@oscarhokom8394]

You can’t make a negative claim without evidence you would have to disprove every version of God.

[@goBadgers1995right]

Your Higher Power was you all along!

[@jamesginger7504]

​@oscarhokom8394 ehh, his disbelief in god has a lot more evidence than whatever you believe in, considering there is 0 evidence for what you believe in.

[@oscarhokom8394]

@@jamesginger7504 um you can think the evidence is really bad when it comes to God existence but to say there is no evidence for god is just untrue and dishonest. And to claim that there is no gods in existence you would have to provide evidence for every possible version of a God that humans have thought of possible definitions .

[@corn3549]

I'll be honest, you as a recovering heroin addict discredits your assertions. Normal people preface with a statement about their educational experience or other credentials that add an air of legitimacy to their claims. As an appeal to authority being a recovering addict isn't one. Do you have any other evidence? No ? Just your worthless opinion? Yes

[@terryriley8963]

I was just wondering if Mel being told by his doctor that he had first stage emphysema might have helped somewhat towards his motivation to quit smoking.

[@MossyMozart]

Hmmm........

[@MichaelWizard-dt9ve]

Addiction to substances and addiction to religion are kind of the same thing. Start out with one end up with the other.

[@generallyuninterested4956]

Hey, leave substances out of this! Chemicals are just sitting there in a baggie. Not hurting anyone. It's humanity that chose to do the crusades in the name of God, defended slavery and war and countless atrocities. I don't think it was divinity. Like in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas "did you see what GOD just did to us, man?"

[@ThroughtheLookingGlass-yg2fj]

No one's god beliefs make any sense. Mental health IS the next frontier.

[@lenxbot777z5]

Evolution and natural selection makes no sense to what science is comprised of..nature cannot design things

[@theol64]

So you've not read anything outside your own single-cell mind, have you? Don't bother answering that. You'll implode.

[@ThroughtheLookingGlass-yg2fj]

"we will know they are religious by their hate and name calling." Gma Great

[@CozmikDragyn]

Mental health and education. Critical thinking skills are a must. They need to teach elementary school students how to spot unfalsifiable claims.

[@adamgates1142]

@theol64 I haven't. Im also a Christian.

[@davidnock7995]

Saying he was born an alcoholic is just a mental get out clause to take no accountability. He really has lost it

[@ianbabineau5340]

He was raised with whiskey in his bottle instead of formula. 🤷‍♂️

[@jennyanydots2389]

There is quite a bit of evidence supporting genetic predisposition to addiction. Mel really has lost it, but, that's not a good example at all.

[@ianbabineau5340]

@ genetic predisposition is not the same as being an addict. The children of alcoholics often turn out not to be alcoholic themselves even when they have the predisposition. It’s not like he was 3 days old and crying his mom to give him a bottle of vodka.

[@jennyanydots2389]

@@ianbabineau5340 I'm not a Mel Gibson fan but that's just how he talks. I don't think he is using his addictive predisposition as a "get out clause to take no accountability". It's his way of acknowledging the fact that he, like a lot of people, was born with genetic predispositions to addiction. He's pretty dumb about it but he's not using it to rationalize using. You are projecting that on him. I don't like the guy either but I can be honest when critiquing him, you should try it out.

[@corn3549]

@@davidnock7995 alcoholism and many other vices are to a great degree genetic.As we learn through science. Traits for alcoholism, gluttony, violence, ect, are passed down and inherited.These things are literally not only passed down through genetics but also habits that are learned at a young age through family. Mel isn't saying that he was born an alcoholic to abdicate responsibility. He's saying that to emphasize the magnitude of his alcoholism. As alcoholism is something that is experienced to a certain degree. You would say a baby that was born with fetal alcohol syndrome suffering from alcoholism, inherited alcoholism to a much greater degree compared to someone who started drinking in college. You shouldn't let your disdain for Mel discount his and many others struggling with alcoholism's personal experiences.

[@Shivaislord123]

Without lies Christianity dies

[@publicutility]

And indoctrination of young susceptible minds.

[@philipaubin4679]

Gibson is such a horrible person that I can't watch his movies anymore. He has tainted them for me. His religious and anti-science arguments are simply childish.

[@gilgamesh7652]

The worst part is that the religion was build with the scientific knowledge of that times and is more about symbolism that literalism thing that fundamentalism of any type can't accept and/or understand and we have angry people that cover themselves with the mask of theist/atheist/etc.

[@MaraDavidson-f6w]

Gibson loves Trump and he went to the screening of Mad Max Fury Road. I'm curious, who he thought the good guys were in it. Was he rooting for Immortan Joe the whole time?

[@hyperteleXii]

Science is a branch of religion. The greatest minds in the history of science like Albert Einstein and Isaac Newton knew about God. Yet here you are worshiping the smell of your own farts.

[@mikeking9373]

​@@hyperteleXii Einstein believed in the "God of Spinoza," a pantheist "god." He had no use for organized religion. Isaac Newton was a Christian but also embraced esotericism and alchemy.

[@robertadsett5273]

@@mikeking9373 Newton’s Christianity was also far from conventional

[@Dume_Guy]

So tired of people thinking you can’t get sober and maintain sobriety without a god

[@riseofdarkleela]

Yep. Five years of not thinking about alcohol and I run into people who were quitting with me and they did 12 steps and are still thinking about and talking about alcohol all the time.

[@MossyMozart]

@@riseofdarkleela - Is that what is known as a "dry drunk"?

[@Costa_Conn]

@@riseofdarkleela I think I'd rather talk about alcohol all the time rather than drone on about how Jesus saved me.

[@riseofdarkleela]

@@MossyMozart that’s what they call it in that program I think.

[@johndenton4008]

​@MossyMozart and continued exhibiting of associated addictive behaviors but without the booze consumption

[@CoelSometimesCan]

I watched the Passion of Christ when I was 10 because I was in trouble with my parents and not allowed to go to another event instead. I was shaking the entire time and had nightmares for weeks after that. Thinking about that later is part of what lead me to start deconstructing much later on in life.

[@gilgamesh7652]

A well done movie but is not for kids even if you belive or don't belive in God/s or anything like that.

[@MossyMozart]

@CoelSometimesCan - Maybe watching _The Life of Brian_ can counterbalance those awful thoughts! ^_^

[@adamgates1142]

I had friends who got dragged to the passion by their parents lol. Wildly inappropriate for most people imo. I thought it was basically torture porn and I think torture porn is for sadists.

[@generallyuninterested4956]

We got dragged to stations of the cross every year since birth. Depending on how animated the priest's story telling was, it could be just as traumatic.

[@beemixsy]

I wish Joe Rogan was smart enough to find videos like this. Or care when he's proven wrong.

[@FoursWithin]

Rogan isn't dumb. At this point (starting about 4years ago) it seems he's just greasing the $$$ machine.

[@sobertillnoon]

I don't think I can do an hour of Mel.

[@HarryNicNicholas]

his ody language is disturbing to me, this tight folding of his arms is very uptight and then he's waving his arms about and that's not very reassuring either - and i have trouble with people who are dogmatic about their opinions, that they always refer to as their "beliefs". apocalypto and the mad max series are big favs of mine though, even ransom, still.

[@davidnock7995]

Did you make it through? You ok?

[@theredgoblin562]

But you watch hours of debunk weirdos to reinforce the strength of your sloppy beliefes

[@sobertillnoon]

@theredgoblin562 nothing sloppy about my beliefs. When something happens I can't explain I'm fine with it. I don't need to invent a skydaddy to make sense of the world.

[@Zlist1994]

@@theredgoblin562lol the “debunking” videos actually provide facts, logic and evidence instead of just “beliefs”.

[@jonathanpark7245]

41:19 and there's no money in keeping people believing in god?

[@tehallanaz]

Tax free money 😂🎉

[@leothenomad5675]

Kenneth Copeland says hi.

[@EvolutionOfCat]

It was actually painful to hear Mel and Joe "discuss" the evidence for human evolution lmao.

[@FoursWithin]

Joe knows better. Seems he's pandering to guest and audience. It's basically mainstream entertainment where ignorance is overlooked for the sake of you have to go along to get along. Just another eroding of critical thoughts.

[@alisonjones8861]

What? He was born an alcoholic?!? How did that work? Very sad that he can't give himself credit for overcoming his addiction.

[@henrycobb]

Way too much of Mel's misbehavior is excused if he was drunk in the womb.

[@publicutility]

There's is some evidence that some people may be more or less predisposed to addiction. I'd say Mel exhibits mental weakness. Same for Joe.

[@wjd23104]

There are genetic predispositions to multiple related issues (depression, anxiety, addictive behaviour).

[@JasonHenderson]

I mean technically babies can be born addicted to alcohol. My buddy has a kid who was born addicted to crack.

[@Caelinus]

@@JasonHenderson That can definitely happen. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome often causes pretty severe health problems for the fetus that can result in lifelong physical deformity, brain damage, or stillbirth though, and as dumb as he is he does not really fit the profile. So I doubt that he actually had that severe enough that he would have withdrawal right after birth. He most likely is saying that addiction runs in his family in a really weird way.

[@theamalgamut8871]

Mel Gibson...makes no sense.

[@LanceHall]

I've never been drunk or high despite being surrounded by such people. It must be a miracle.

[@adamgates1142]

You must have been born sober! Weird!

[@markshepperson3603]

No, you’re just dull. LOL.

[@generallyuninterested4956]

I did opiates for 20 years... Now I don't. Miracle! Orrrrrr... Modern medicine, material conditions imporving and public health outreach helped greatly. Mainly the material conditions one.

[@alanG3806]

I know Mel is irritating and obnoxious, but I had to give up half way because Joe is just so full of shit as well and listening to two idiots was just so painful.

[@suicune2001]

I get so mad whenever someone tries saying, "Animals don't have souls." It's just an excuse to hurt them for fun without feeling guilty.

[@Rogstin]

Well, they don't. How many animals have had chicken noodle soup? Clearly, their souls have withered away.

[@suicune2001]

@@Rogstin WTF is that even supposed to mean? It makes no sense.

[@Stormy-pe2xc]

​@@Rogstin What??

[@Rogstin]

@suicune2001 it's a reference to old books from the 90s "Chicken -Noodle- Soup for the Soul." A simple Google search would have told you this and you could have pieced the joke together from there.

[@Stormy-pe2xc]

I'm with you, they do have souls.

[@Cyrathil]

"I have other logical reasons for believing..." "Such as" *begins to list personal incredulity and other non-logical reasons for believing in God*

[@martinmckee5333]

After having to think deeply, of course. The "logical", "rational" reasons were not readily available.

[@Venaloid]

31:31 - Elephants have been discovered to bury their dead calves intentionally.

[@user-du7jx8ex1e]

Dogs have been discovered to bury their bones intentionally.

[@GameTimeWhy]

We keep finding more and more animals that do a burial rights kind of thing.

[@csh5468]

There is an Orca on the West coast of NA who is now trundling her dead baby calf around with her while she mourns it. Another of her offspring died a few years ago, and she carried its corpse with her for weeks. My father’s dog has been obviously depressed and in mourning, since my father’s death. Humans are NOT the only animals that display emotion, or mourn when their loved ones die.

[@theflyingdutchguy9870]

Even been documented visiting old grave sites for years after. Collecting in that place as a herd just mourning. You can see they are sad. Its even been documented that the herd had to convince the parent of the passed individual to move on as it didnt want to leave.

[@kennymartin5976]

@@user-du7jx8ex1e Not analogous at all. go do some reading, you might just learn something.

[@rachelfey]

It's 2025, and they're still on about the shroud of turin. Gotta be kidding me dude.

[@FoursWithin]

And just repeating lies and fringe theories. "It was an Atomic blast" Guess his early crazy cop character wasn't an act after all.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@FoursWithin- True Believers use that to insist that this means Jesus miraculously resurrected, releasing divine energy that seared his image onto the cloth.

[@FoursWithin]

@@julietfischer5056 Oh I'm aware that some believers perpetuate such claims and why. But plenty of "true believers" realize the whole shroud bit is a hoax. There's a reason the vatican won't endorse it as authentic.

[@MarkSheeres]

41:20 “Direct monetary gains from carbon dating are surprisingly limited.” I almost spit out my coffee from laughing.

[@jaded_gerManic]

Same, lol but it was whiskey and coke 😂

[@vaiyt]

I like the idea of all of academia lying for grants. So the average scientist spends countless hours doing pointless fake work, just so they can be rewarded with more fake work. Who wouldn't want to sign up?

[@fixintoboltfreely7360]

Relics, more than 90% fake, have been making money for the tourist industry for more than 1k years. Canterbury Tales is a remarkable commentary on this. Please do a video about relics throughout Christian history. It’s such an interesting subject.

[@Merrick]

technically you are correct, as 100 is more than 90

[@riseofdarkleela]

I wonder if Canterbury Tales would seem more interesting to me now than during 5th grade AP english.

[@fixintoboltfreely7360]

@ no doubt

[@EdwardHowton]

@@Merrick To be absolutely fair, not all relics are fakes. There are some shriveled-up fingers and crap locked up here and there that might have belonged to the people they're claimed to have belonged to; especially if they're some nameless rando some church found important who bequeathed their body for display. In that sense they're real. The idea that they're _magical_ is just a straight up lie, of course. The entire practice of keeping such relics is weird and gross and disturbing and almost always some tourist-trap fraud, but I don't think we can safely say they're 100% fraudulent. 99.99~%, sure. Safer to use the Ivory purity rating until the last "relic" gets the incompetent-old-lady-restoration treatment and winds up ash in the wind.

[@Luubelaar]

Just recently I watched a documentary about the testing of a "holy relic" believed to be the remains of Joan of Arc. Spoiler: they aren't. The bones and skin were found to be from an Egyptian mummy. I don't know if these "relics" are still on display.

[@Butterfly-bo1vb]

And wow, despite no concrete evidence to suggest that most of the apostles died for their beliefs, to suggest people wouldn’t die for something others would consider false and absurd, look around. Jonestown, Heaven’s Gate, religious suicide bombers, Branch Davidians….the list goes on.

[@julietfischer5056]

Few people will knowingly die for a falsehood, for sure. If you _believe_ the lie that someone told you, dying for it doesn't make it true.

[@Butterfly-bo1vb]

Yep. Same problem about religious beliefs in general. If a fervent believer in one belief, and if I grant the same amount of evidence for all faith traditions, how then does one weigh the truth claims of each to merit that belief? Evidence? For a lot of folks, probably not, imo, but you can point to emotional commitments buoyed by social and community inculcation and plenty of confirmation bias. It’s really hard to critically analyze your own position without attempting to knowingly rationalize the data.

[@secretgoldfish931]

Woah! Mel Gibson makes no sense? When did this happen? Why am I only just hearing about it now? 🙃

[@scottburge219]

He’s been going downhill for a long time now.

[@ReasonOrDogma]

He kind of looks like an insane Billy Joel, doesn't he?

[@MossyMozart]

Poor Billy Joel!

[@jennyanydots2389]

Billy Joel's bee whole really stinks bad.

[@ChristLucifer999]

Old Testament: God's justice = earthly consequences. New Testament introduces hell, Satan, & eternal punishment to control through fear. Does this shift promote divine justice or just obedience through fear?

[@Julian0101]

Yes.

[@Konekokinee]

It promotes whatever they want it to say. To the point where when we say its a problem they say, no it says its not a problem

[@alchemicalheathen]

An hour long Paulogia release on my birthday? An excellent present

[@heromaiker4414]

Happy birthday

[@kyleepratt]

🎂🎁🎉🎊🎈

[@jaded_gerManic]

Happy Birthday! Funny story, I miscalculated my age and get to be 46 again this year 😅

[@riseofdarkleela]

Happy birthday!🎂🎈🎁

[@daverobson3084]

on mine too. cheers.

[@JoeBauers]

Alcohol does some bad things to the brain

[@EvilXtianity]

Yet Jesus changed water into wine to keep a party going.

[@kathrynyoung3362]

Clearly on display in Mel

[@jennyanydots2389]

It is really good for you. The cannabis oligarchs and the deep state are propagandizing against alcohol so the liberal elites can fly private planes to their taylor swift concerts.

[@alecwry]

I find Mel's behavior in this interview hard to watch. He's so fidgety I was surprised when he said he was sober because I thought he was high at first.

[@mactallica9293]

Funny thing about addicts is... they lie

[@alanhilder1883]

Maybe he beat alcohol by getting addicted to Red Bull... ;-)

[@andrewbower2533]

I am not an expert by any means, but I have a background in animation. The 2d image of the surface that gets wrapped around a 3d object, to add the color and textures etc, is very distorted. On a 2d texture map that goes on a character models head you would be able to see both ears on the same flat image for example. The shroud of Turin does not look like a 2d cloth that was wrapped around a 3d head. It looks like a 2d image painted on a flat surface.

[@PurpleRhymesWithOrange]

We all know the Ark of the Covenant is stored in Warehouse 13.

[@alanhilder1883]

Or did they get moved to Warehouse 14? ( I will have to rewatch it soon after I get my player fixed )

[@Hailfire08]

I hate how some people (like Mel) have no interest in the truth. They believe what they like, they reject what they don't like, and then they sometimes half-assed make an argument as if they care about facts.

[@Redactedlllllllllllll]

Welcome to the average human mind.

[@vaiyt]

Aron Ra got it right. It's mind over matter, an attempt to exert their will over reality. Or in other words, make believe.

[@JoeBauers]

Man, did you watch all those Mel Gibson movies to do this hilarious critique? Ha, he’s a nut job, but did make some great ( and awful) films.

[@delphinazizumbo8674]

his dogma is re-packaged Calvinism VERY common in former British colonies

[@MrYoko101]

That’s really interesting. What historical trends were behind this?

[@OscarSommerbo]

It is much easier to dump all responsibility on god than take responsibility for your own actions.

[@delphinazizumbo8674]

​@@OscarSommerbo "good things happen to Good People"

[@delphinazizumbo8674]

@@MrYoko101 the Protestants who came to America first, the Puritans, were a Calvinist style group, part of that is "god makes good things happen" to true believers and bad things to those who "disobey"

[@OscarSommerbo]

@@delphinazizumbo8674 The Bible disagree with you. Jonah and Abraham.

[@jonathanwilliams1641]

I think the only valid thing Mel said in this video was: "I could be wrong."

[@HarryNicNicholas]

he has some really interesting body language, like all religists i think he is trying more to convince himself than me.

[@EdwardHowton]

Rest assured; he didn't mean it. That's what I call a "false concession". It's a trick the religious use to project reasonability to their intended sheep audience. It's like when a psychic has a disclaimer saying "for entertainment purposes only"; they will insist they're being forced to say that but they're absolutely legit. Same deal.

[@michaelsommers2356]

This guy is an actor. His job is to pretend to be other people. Who cares what he has to say about science or even religion?

[@unruhe24]

Because we as a collective said no to him as a actore and has been crawling back ever since

[@LukeSumIpsePatremTe]

Did you know that we live in a democracy?

[@michaelsommers2356]

@@LukeSumIpsePatremTe Actually, we live in a democratic republic, not a democracy. Putting that aside, I said nothing anti-democratic or undemocratic. I, too, am allowed to express my opinions, even if you disagree with me.

[@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers]

I’ve heard this before, a democratic republic is simply a subset of the term democracy. Each democracy has it own specifics.

[@michaelsommers2356]

@@SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers No. A democracy is where the citizens vote directly on legislation, as in ancient Athens. A democratic republic is where the citizens elect representatives to enact legislation.

[@chriscolby6105]

The ‘Jeopardy’ categories insert was GOLD! You are a funny man!

[@kyleepratt]

28:04 pointedly Mel, you weren't created. You were born, no miracle involved. Miraculous creation has never been observed, descent with modification has been observed.

[@RickJaeger]

"Your statue was never created by you; it solidified and metamorphized as rock over millions of years and then chiseled into shape from by some tools in your hand." Look, even an atheist can understand the difference between proximate and ultimate causes.

[@jimjloehr]

Serious question... Does Joe Rogan ever have sane people on his show?

[@martinmckee5333]

Well, Neil deGrasse Tyson has been on multiple times. Not my favorite scientist, but he does seem, at least, sane. I'd say Rogan, at least, periodically has sane people on. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that he goes out of his way to find them, however.

[@Chrismas815]

Its crazy to me when Joe "Credulity" Rogan is the rational one in his interview

[@RunesandReapers]

I'm not sure why so many people on the anti Rogan side are surprised by this. Where does this anti Rogan hate comes from. I kean the dude has been a pretty calm voice of just talk. What's the big deal

[@Redactedlllllllllllll]

​@@RunesandReapershow can we explain a hatred we don't feel? Disagreeing with someone, or saying that they seem gullible, isn't the same as hating them.

[@martinmckee5333]

​@@RunesandReapersIt's really very simple. By providing the largest podcast in the world as a platform he makes (intentionally or not) all his guests appear to be worth considering. For naturally skeptical people, that's not an issue. However there are a great many people who accept things all too readily - without support - and end up believing utter garbage. Joe's endless credulity during the conversations makes this a particularly acute problem. He seems to be entirely unable to push back against any sort of silliness. I'd much rather see conversations between two people who are well versed in the field they are discussing and able to support their own view while challenging their interlocutor. Joe challenges extremely rarely, leading some to feel that the views are unchallagable.

[@bopeton]

The best part of this video was the Gutsick Gibbon cameo.

[@Paulogia]

She’s great

[@bewareofraccoons4266]

YESSS I was looking for this comment. I was so delighted for the cameo

[@publicutility]

He's nuts, more so than some. He can't think for himself let alone me.

[@publicutility]

"mistakes are opportunities to learn": "The only real mistake is the one from which we learn nothing." "The world of reality has its limits; the world of imagination is boundless."

[@hansverhaegen8406]

Sheesh... All these rich guys being completely wacked out of their minds. What did some lawyer call it? Affluenza?

[@RealSkyDaddy]

😂😂

[@riseofdarkleela]

It is currently a raging pandemic!

[@EdwardHowton]

Affluenza is a different thing. It's when you grow up so rich that you never understand that your actions have consequences, because Daddy can just write a cheque and take it out of your allowance, which only leaves 80,000$ to spend this week. It's complete horseshit that was invented by a lawyer to get a teenager out of trouble for killing someone after stealing his dad's car and going on a joyride, and the judge never should've accepted it as an excuse (but did anyway), but... the notion does have a lot of merit. Mel Gibson is just suffering from his own success and drug-induced brain damage.

[@goBadgers1995right]

Assholuenza

[@SiddhA-g7l]

The whole religion discussion with Mel Gibson was a prime example of argument from Authority, where a film director becomes an apologist, and therefore expects to be right all the time.

[@gerardgauthier4876]

I stopped drinking 15 years ago. I also stopped AA(which appeals to a higher power) 15 years ago because they said I was powerless and needed a higher power. We're not powerless and you'd be surprised what you can accomplish when you are determined. BTW... I quit smoking 20 years ago so I could have more money to drink.

[@adamgates1142]

It's almost impossible to drink without smoking

[@Theprofessorator]

"Science can't be trusted! It's constantly changing its mind!" "Didn't you see that science proved that the Shroud of Turin is 2000 years old? They got it wrong the first time!" Cognitive dissonance on display.

[@EvilXtianity]

_"Didn't you see that science proved that the Shroud of Turin is 2000 years old? They got it wrong the first time!"_ I know that's not you saying this, but it's completely false. The Shroud has been conclusively proven a medieval creation.

[@mattslaughter4748]

"Nobody dies for a lie"? HHAHAHHAHHHAH

[@Joe-Przybranowski]

Id hazard that the majority of everybody to ever die in a war died for a lie.

[@vaiyt]

Sikhism is the one true faith

[@adamgates1142]

@vaiyt Its actually Mormonism.

[@goBadgers1995right]

It was and still is Zoroastrianism. Zoroaster is the way and the life. In Zoroaster all things are possible. Y’all other monotheists just copying.

[@ygolonacable]

"Nobody dies for a lie" - Jonestown? Lisa McPherson? Heaven's Gate? Branch Davidians?

[@LynnWinx]

It's so very weird. I'm French. I didn't know that anyone took religions seriously until I had access to KZbin at the age of 23.

[@calonstanni]

It makes PERFECT SENSE to me how someone could be swayed by "The Easy Way to Stop Smoking/Drinking etc) AND by the Bible as well. I've read them both and you have to be a HUGE amount of illogical and gullible to let either of them sway you towards their messages. I don't consider myself smart, but how is it that I can see through the bullshit of these books but Mel can just make his brain fall right in line?

[@publicutility]

Big question. Still more to learn and understand then what's understood so far.

[@riseofdarkleela]

That easy way stuff is way more useful than sky fairies, tho. It was definitely telling myself different things about alcohol that made me quit.

[@RealPumpkinJay]

I smoked for 16 years. I read the book by Allen Carr too… but it didn’t make me quit. I quit when my doctor told me I wouldn’t get a surgery without which I was in constant pain. The surgery outcome wouldn’t have been successful with as bad as my circulation was.

[@daleproctor3723]

Mel Gibson exposed himself as a nut bar years ago. It's hard to believe anyone takes him seriously!

[@Murkoph]

I'll never understand how grown adults can be so credulous.

[@Redactedlllllllllllll]

Because it feels good to lie to yourself.

[@austinperkins8348]

I'm trying to figure out what character Mel is playing.

[@kyleepratt]

This is his attempt to be a respectable person

[@jaded_gerManic]

I've met many old people who have changed their entire tune bc they are trying to get into heaven... 🫤 It's kinda sad really.

[@mr.goldenproductions_0143]

The “damascus moment” rich guy who lives exactly the opposite of how a Christian is supposed to live - guy.

[@shamanwatch423]

Next on Joe Rogan ... Gene Simmons discusses molecular genetics.

[@Paulogia]

🤣

[@Jcs57]

I believe that these people are nuts

[@Tiffany_Turbo]

"if you believe that, that's true" is how Faith works in the Elder Scrolls series. Gods are basically believed into existence.

[@VadimRadtchenko]

Also AD&D's Planescape. And unused ones get dumped into Ethereal Plane xD

[@mactallica9293]

I thought Joe said that as a joke to him...

[@1020kerry]

Reminds me of tinker belle

[@George89999]

The irony of Mel complaining of the relatively few hoaxes in evolutionary science (typically perpetrated by those outside of the field) as a reason to doubt it while at the same time religion is full of hoaxes... Especially the Shroud of Turin which Gibson apparently believes is authentic! 🤣

[@tigers456]

Don't want to be harsh, but Mel's house getting destroyed while this interview was happening shows maybe God thought he was talking BS as well.

[@B-Nice]

When someone is addicted to satisfying their urge to party and hide from reality, it’s still nice when they can transfer their addiction of fantasy to a religion 🙏🏽

[@dillon7748]

I genuinely think that Mel Gibson is one of the most interesting and creative forces in hollywood over the last 40 odd years.... Unfortunately, that same intensity that makes his acting and writing/directing so interesting also makes him a nutcase

[@lisaboban]

Separating the artist from the art is an ancient issue. I'm currently struggling with the Neil Gaiman controversies. The man is a genius and a monster. Hard to know what to do with those facts.

[@dillon7748]

@@lisaboban I always meant to get around to Neil Gaiman, but now would be a weird time lol. I don't know if it's just a personality thing, but I've never had much trouble separating art from artist in most cases. Especially if it's something like a different political, social or religious view than I hold. I often feel like it's a little self-important to think that what kind of art I enjoy is having some kind of grand external negative impact. On the other hand, though, Neil Gaiman does seem like a bit of a special case, since it's a real possibility that a purchase of one of his works could directly impact the amount of resources he has for legal expenses.

[@lisaboban]

@@dillon7748 Gaiman's writing really is genius. But get it from a library or used bookstore. Because it's good not to give money to monsters.

[@unruhe24]

Yes creative people can absolutely be monsters and should be called out. They live in their creative mind and are narcissist to the core because think, in their mind the stories they imagine are the most important thing in the world. When they are told no, thats when the brain hits the fight or flight respones and you get drunken rants and true feelings come out.

[@dillon7748]

@@unruhe24 I'll pass. I'm not very interested in researching the personal lives and purity testing all creators of the artwork I enjoy.

[@michaelhenry1763]

12:00 hey, I believe in good and evil. I see Mel Gibson as evil masquerading as an angel of light.

[@goldenalt3166]

What criteria do you use to detect "evil"?

[@michaelhenry1763]

@ my criterion for evil is when someone gets drunk and has an anti-Semitic rant blaming the Jews for all wars.

[@goldenalt3166]

@michaelhenry1763 Well that solves the "problem of evil". Hardly any "evil" exists in the world.

[@michaelhenry1763]

@ great point! I mean Mel Gibson cannot be the only evil out there. So, I guess, we can call Mel Gibson a base line.

[@goldenalt3166]

@michaelhenry1763 Yeah, it's not like he rises to the level of anti- seminitism of the Bible. That would be really "evil".

[@thesocialzeitgeist5285]

What's wild is that reading the same Allen Car book is what started me on my journey to reevaluate what i used to decide what's true, and started my path to reconversion.

[@riseofdarkleela]

Interesting. How so? I read the alcohol one and it was pretty helpful in my successful quitting.

[@AarmOZ84]

I actually worry about Mel. His brain doesn’t seem to be working well. I’m fine with him being a devout Catholic, but he sounds like his brain is all over the place.

[@ChixieMary]

It isn't just Catholic. His Dad was a fanatic Catholic who actually moved the family to Australia from the US so they could continue to practice his particular wackadoodle brand. Mel is just a piece of fruit that did not fall far from the tree. Unfortunately. 💔

[@kyleepratt]

@@ChixieMary💯 papa Gibson is the type of catholic who believes the catholic church isn't antisemitic enough.

[@ChixieMary]

@kyleepratt They don't believe the current Pope is Catholic enough. They're pre-vatican 2. They want to hear the masses in Latin and all that mumbo jumbo from all those horror movies that we would see people making fun of in the '60s. They're the people who believe that stuff is real. More of the visible harm that religion does. 😥

[@Murkoph]

His mannerisms, twitchiness, and the stilted way he talks remind me of my cousin, who is a (mostly) recovered junkie. You can't abuse yourself for years like that without consequence.

[@EdwardHowton]

You have to pick one, dude. You can't eat your cake and still have it. Are you worried about his brain not working right, or are you okay with him being a devout _whatever?_ Because it can't be both.

[@joehemmann1156]

"Humans are animals" I like how Forrest Valkai tackles that one, he puts it as "I am an animal because I'm too big to be a bacteria and I move around too much to be a plant."

[@brianmonks8657]

"There are other logical reasons why I believe." "What are those?" Great question! It would have been interesting if Gibson could have answered that question instead of rambling on about his addictions.

[@davepugh2519]

Disputes carbon dating because "there is a lot of money in it". Belongs to a church worth $74 billion.

[@niddy-2.0]

I always think it's wild that Joseph of Arimethea just happened to have a cart (hearse) at the ready and hauled-ace through Jerusalem from the temple to the tomb to get him buried for the three days to work. By himself? With help? So Joseph rounded up a burial committee for the persecuted criminal in the middle of the night? What in the world....stack on the miracles between the death and resurrection

[@istvansipos9940]

and still, the burial is the strongest part of the st0ry. I mean, a burial and a tomb are not magical, at least.

[@niddy-2.0]

@@istvansipos9940 I suppose. The more I think about it, the more it gets into magical narrative convenience, lol.

[@dericslife1862]

Mel says he sober and I believe him but man he just naturally acts like a addict, the way he talks and his mannerisms just gives addict vibes lol

[@iluvtacos1231]

I appreciate that Mel will say "I don't know". Just kind of wish that was ALL he said lol

[@EdwardHowton]

Do you also appreciate when con artists say "for entertainment purposes only"? Or when fake medicines say nothing about what they do, but put testimonials from people who say "this cured my cancer! It'll do it to you too!" just before they die, and then when they get told not to make false claims say 'What, we didn't say it, that's just satisfied customers' opinions"? Because I don't. That shit kills people. The only reason he said that was so he could seem more reasonable, which lets him fool even MORE people. It would've been better if he'd said "I can never be wrong about anything ever".

[@iluvtacos1231]

@@EdwardHowton Did...did you miss the second sentence? Where I said I wanted "I don't know" to be all he said, period?

[@lisaboban]

I wonder if Jim Caveizel will star in the sequel as well? He's even nuttier than Mel these days.

[@Paulogia]

That is Mel's plan, along with de-aging software.

[@thelostone6981]

@@PaulogiaI want to see a film where Jesus isn’t crucified, but still is calling himself Gospel-of-John God, and grows old; to have Satan to show up to finish the job the Romans didn’t do and he becomes young again….just like in Highlander II.

[@road.from.damascus]

Say Jim doesn't return for the resurrection~sequel... ...would it mean gnostics, muslims and other sects who believe that a different person was crucified, than the one appearing thereafter ... would start to like Gibson-movies ? Asking for a friend !

[@kMegalonyx]

Why do they always FIND god after strokes/ brain damage? Are there stories of people losing faith in those circumstances? Seems suspicious! Im startin’ to think these guys might not quite get it..

[@meatloafhead]

I can still watch mel movies but if i see jim in a movie, I WILL NOT WATCH IT😅

[@quackenbush723]

I was twelve years old when the first lethal weapon came out, I thought Riggs was the coolest cat god ever stretched skin over. Thanks Mel, you done ruined a hero.

[@DoctorBiobrain]

In Mel’s defense, Riggs was supposed to be crazy.

[@quackenbush723]

@DoctorBiobrain crazy is cool, this is beyond crazy

[@RunesandReapers]

Mel.ismt the guy you liked so why would that effect you

[@danielschaeffer1294]

Mel claims he was saved from alcoholism by his Catholic faith. What about all the people who were driven into alcoholism by the Catholic faith? Just read Joyce’s “Portrait.”

[@ehuffnsd]

Every pope since Pope Leo XIII has endorsed evolution, focusing on the Passion and Sacrifice very Catholic

[@agiraffe3673]

This is ridiculous. 3:44 god answered your prayers to stop you from drinking, which are completely under your own control, but yet parents and communities in whole entire churches pray for a child to be cured from a childhood disease which is completely out of their control and yet God says I spent my miracle on Mel Gibson drinking habit, sorry

[@therongjr]

Why does ANYONE ask Mel Gibson his opinions about literally anything except maybe his acting career. Or his racist and anti-Semitic rants.

[@martinmckee5333]

Fair question.

[@Eric_01]

Because he'll start spilling and people are entertained by it. Were you not just entertained?

[@martinmckee5333]

@@Eric_01 By Mel? No. By Paulogia? Yes.

[@adamgates1142]

Joe has at least three hours to fill

[@BenWard29]

That feeling when you reel in a big one… what a bass relief.

[@peternjenga4420]

Good work Paul. Thank you.

[@beaker8111]

I just don't understand why anyone on earth would care wtf Mel Gibson thought about anything. He's an actor. And, apparently, an idiot.

[@reformCopyright]

I don't understand why Christians would hate Jews for crucifying Jesus. He was _supposed_ to be sacrificed to atone for our sins, wasn't he? If anything, Christians should be _thanking_ the Jews.

[@Jessica_O_Bell]

6:54 "Obviously, changing your attitude doesn't require a god, even if it's inspired by the notion of a god." Paulogia, 2025