Melbourne1991-5 Trains Various Stations + Rides

This is film 5, despite the title at the start of the film!
Trains at Camberwell, Flagstaff and Richmond stations plus a quick view at Museum (I ran out of videotape and although I bought some more I did not get to revisit Museum station) plus some sample rides inside two different urban electric multiple unit trains.
The video footage dates from March 1991 whilst still images date from March 1991 and May 1988.

[@metrotrainsmix]

i liked the look of the trains and trams in the green and gold

[@daveb5016]

I remember the guy in the end "collecting for charity". He was a homeless guy that used to hang around in the city. I suspect the charity he was collecting for, was himself. I worked in the city for about 5 years around this time.

[@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520]

Probably trying to get enough money for a Pearl Jam Cassette.

[@johnpro2847]

0:35 started my railway career at Camberwell as a junior clerk in Feb 1969 ...... hoping to join the RAAF in due course. The latter never occurred so left 'Vic Rail' 27 years later...good job ..no regrets..

[@supertna9154]

This brings back old memories what Melbourne Trains looked like when I was young.

[@joanoehme4267]

This takes me back to my early years( 1943-1951) taking the train to work from Footscray - some things havent changed, .but Wow.

[@garynewton1263]

Camberwell station.......ah great memories of school days.

[@Techno-Universal]

2:54 You can also see the lift motor room door here however it was converted into a storage room in 2018 as the lift was replaced with an MRL that year! However a wall panel next to the lift doors on the concourse level is now a stainless steel door as it’s actually the logic cabinet for the new lift! :)

[@jamieb8112]

The Hitachi trains were my favourites. Great video, thanks for sharing. 😉👍

[@SonicbusterX2000]

Nice video mate. Especially the ones in the stations of the city loop. Now it is illegal to film there.

[@lachlantrainvideos]

So stupid

[@Techno-Universal]

2:45 Recently saw some of the brick pavers that were originally in front of and around those escalators are still there today in the small cavity spaces between the escalators and glass walls of the current entrance structure! :)

[@Techno-Universal]

A lot of places haven’t changed too much since then but a lot of details have changed a lot like the addition of display screens for example! However the street level entrance structure to Flagstaff was rebuilt more recently when the court behind it was built and the lifts were also modernised in 2018! :)

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Thanks for the update, one day I would like to return to Melbourne, hopefully I would be allowed to use a camcorder to film the trains again

[@Techno-Universal]

citytransportinfo Yup that would be quite interesting and if you came here next year you might be able to do a before and after comparison video looking at locations you filmed on your trip here back in 1991 so it could showcase what’s changed within the last 30 years! Also the lifts at Melbourne Central were modernised mid last year and in early 2019 the same also happened to the lifts at Parliament and the lift that goes between the concourse and street was also completely replaced with an MRL generic lift when it was originally a hydraulic and the same also happened to the concourse to street lift in Flagstaff! It’s also likely that the stations will always have their original architecture and escalators possibly due to heritage listing or the stations being too hard to modernise in that fashion! :)

[@atemugirl]

Talk about nostalgia! Thank you so much for sharing this :D

[@HazptMedia]

Why do I feel nostalgic for this even though I was born in the 00s

[@A_couple_of_cakepies]

@@HazptMedia yea it is so strange, maybe it’s because of the hitachi idk

[@RailwaysOfDoom]

good old days

[@trustymove]

Thanks a lot for uploading this video, mate! So familiar with those stations. I was a young man, living in Hawthorn back then :)

[@YeahIDontKn0wEither]

Darn, never thought you'd go anywhere else than Britain!

[@brownlessbiomedicallibrary1571]

I don't know what it was, but I remember the Hitachies used to have this really horrible burning mechanical smell inside the carriages. Carpet in the Comengs; a bad idea! I remember all the black dried up bits of chewy and other crap stuck all over them!

[@Bobman84]

Brake smell and probably noticed more with open windows.

[@gav240z]

@@Bobman84 good ol' asbestos brakes lol.

[@michaelroper4237]

i used to love that smell and i miss it

[@vhpjb]

So sad that none of the young enthusiasts here know of the roles of station assistants, station officers and station masters. When I was a teen in this era, we loved our local station staff. That guy crossing the tracks is likely a station assistant, or maybe even a signal assistant! He's a legend in my book and he's fit. Love watching the Hitachis. I can clearly hear the line breakers and power/ brake switch operating at Camberwell. Great stuff.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Thanks for commenting. I'm pleased that I was able to film it and that you found this to be of interest.

[@derhampaul2182]

1991 geez that's when I was 19 I'm 52 now in 2024 I remember the old trains and trams I never caught trams only trains the Belgrave train to Ringwood and boronia

[@vintagestuffguy1998]

Thanks very much - and keep up the great work!

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

I assume that the person crossing the tracks works at that station, so has permission. Certainly he seems to know what he is doing. Many years ago I did this at an open air London underground station, with permission, to film a withdrawn train on its farewell tour. A lot of people were doing this - some were railway staff, others (like me) were just railway enthusiasts. I bet the 'health and safety' people would have a cardiac arrest if passengers were allowed to do this 'nowadays'!

[@louislungbubble]

back in the day "crossing the pit" was normal practice the paths and steps were provided for the purpose . we were taught in station assistants class about the guy who ran the last down Belgrave at the end of his shift and then crossed to the up side where a car was waiting to take him home . of course he was killed by the up train running late or something . I never forgot that, we were taught to use our eyes and ears , no reliance on all the high vis vests and light /sound indicators they have today. yes I suppose it all much safer now , but it was much less restrictive and much more relaxed back then. accidents will always happen around moving vehicles I suppose whatever is done to safeguard it. I still had a couple of near misses myself .

[@qqq2211]

Great footage and memory's of Melbourne

[@metrotrains3000]

nice to see some old footage!

[@johnpro2847]

2:54 Flagstaff was the quietest loop station ..off peak it was lightly partonized. not sure now ..have not lived in Melb for 16 years.

[@comicallyminded]

Is it weird I can still smell these trains.. kinda liked it

[@Rickyyspano]

'Mueseum Station' is called Melbourne Central. ;)

[@planetX15]

Museum Station was a much better name.

[@Rickyyspano]

I agree; It's not even in the centre of Melbourne.

[@WINGERSTEIN9000]

***** well the state library nearby used to be the museum, hence it's old name, they renamed it in 1997 after the shopping centre which was on top of it

[@lachlantrainvideos]

It used to be under the museum until it was moved.

[@20001born]

@TheComengSpotter575 true

[@Magpie_Mark92]

I love the old trains hitachi and commeng

[@HarishDharmapalan]

My favourites too. Trains after those are soo useless nowadays.

[@dtrezy5223]

​@@HarishDharmapalanHitachi trains were shit. They had that horrible smell. The xtrapolis and HCMT are much better.

[@KleosAu]

Flagstaff actually looked decent back in those days.

[@smirkydragon]

That Comeng at 9:12 was only 3 cars! That's something you don't see now.

[@lachlantrainvideos]

On the Alamein line shuttle between Alamein and camberwell in off peak predominantly runs as 3 cars these days.

[@hudson707]

yeah but even then those are rare because it's mostly x'trapolis' now

[@jporter993]

Cranbourne night shuttle between Dandenong and cranbourne normally run 3 car sets aswell

[@kierenberger2653]

For driver training they use 3 car trains

[@RealNotOrrio]

comenges back then were a luxury they were the only trains with a/c but now they are gonna be replaced

[@xtrapolis777]

In response to HMT's comments about the no door chimes. This was filmed when Melbourne trains still had guards riding up the back (one of the trains that leave Flagstaff you can see one riding with the door open). When the government got rid of the guards drivers became SPOT (Single Person Operated Trains) drivers and the chimes were introduced onto a PLC circuit that ran back to the driver's console because now the driver became the operator of the doors due to guards became redundant.

[@thomasmatthewharris1980]

my has it changed but not always for the better

[@paulohara8967]

Almost like a ghost town back then. Hustle bustle and clutter today.

[@Techno-Universal]

Apparently it looks like there used to be an industrial building next to Camberwell Station however sometime more recently the structure was demolished and made into a train siding depot that could hold up to four six carriage trains so the government would of had to acquire the land when the building owners sold the structure off or lost it through bankruptcy! :)

[@darylcheshire1618]

I think it was a goods siding, I can’t remember if there were bricquettes.

[@kaneengland2976]

My babys there gone oh god how i miss old Melbourne

[@voyager4584]

That is so old school lol XD

[@planetX15]

Better days.

[@spider-man296]

planetX15 Nope, these days with the trains are kinda better (I live in Melbourne). I mean, these trains (the met trains) are pretty awesome actually, but the Metro trains now are better, they just look more awesome (yes I know it’s the same shape but different paint design) and the Connex trains are the best, you can’t compare, connex trains were the best, definitely not in terms of service or anything but the paint design..... OHHHHH I LOVE IT!

[@ernstblofeld6850]

I'd be curious to see the difference between the peak in the early 90's and peak hour in the present. There definitely were less trains so how frequent were services?.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Maybe it is possible to get an old timetable from then?

[@ernstblofeld6850]

Well i don't know if it was possible hence why i asked.

[@jenmunday6257]

I can't think back to 1990 but 19999 they ran every 30 minutes or even 40. Peak hour was more frequent and the trains got packed as sardines

[@mr.jamster8414]

@@jenmunday6257 yeah, we're moving towards rapid transit now...

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Hi there, Sorry but I dont know... these were withdrawn in 1999 and I had a camcorder since 1989, so it is possible that I *might* have filmed them. The still images I used came from a visit in 1979, and since I have not yet found any super 8 film from that visit so I wonder if I took that camera with me. I'll try to digitise at all my Paris video footage (its mostly the first moden trams) once I've finished Melbourne (there will be at least 11) and a few London films that are in the works.

[@vintagestuffguy1998]

Sorry to be off-topic, but I was wondering if you have any more old footage of the Paris metro? I've taken some recently of current rolling stock, but on KZbin, there is practically no video of the old MP-55s.

[@neilmansfield8329]

This is good

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

thank you :-)

[@planetX15]

And no-one fiddling with their iPhones either.

[@DandamanV]

phone bad

[@metrotrains3000]

great video! did the trains back then have the door chimes? and did they have any aircond on hot days awesome video just reconized i was born 12 years after that vid was taken

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Hi there, pleased you liked it. I don't remember door chimes, nor aircon, but that could because the weather was not hot enough for aircon when I filmed this. Simon

[@atemugirl]

The door chimes didn't come into play until at least a good 5 or 6 years later, if I remember rightly. When they were first installed, they were so damn annoying! Now they're very handy :D

[@metrotrains3000]

Katherine Velthuyzen yep!

[@pakenhamtrain]

+metrotrains3000 The Comeng fleet were the only trains with A/C in the 90s'

[@lachlantrainvideos]

+citytransportinfo Hitachis only recently had air cond in the drivers cab in around the time where they were refurbished.

[@K163Photogrophy]

Ayyyyy I live near Camberwell station

[@voraten7206]

Is there a station called Spencer Street back then in the city loop?

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

There was... it was rebuilt and renamed Southern Cross.

[@A_couple_of_cakepies]

@@CitytransportInfoplus oh I literally when I first saw the station name somewhere I thought it was a separate station

[@gerrym75]

I was in Yr 11 at high school then and used to get the train from Camberwell to Box Hill most days. Mostly on Hitachis and Comengs. I had forgotten the Comengs had that brown interior originally. The Hitachis had opening windows which we'd hang our heads out of on a hot day.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Thanks. Was a law passed in Parliament banning the use of cameras or did the railways just impose new rules? In theory people are not supposed to film on the London Underground - unless they have prior approval of the Press Office and station managers. But LU happily use their cameras to film us & the ban cannot be for security reasons as the 7/7 suicide bombers had valid tickets, were filmed passing through ticket barriers etc and yet they did what they did. The cameras did not protect us!

[@Yuknelsonicecream2]

1:14 omg, track runner :O

[@Dan_07]

Public Transport of Melbourne still happens

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

btw, how will they even know that someone wearing Google Glasses is filming? Its already possible to buy other types of glasses which have built-in cameras! The only reason I dont already have these is that I need vision correction glasses whilst these have plain lenses.

[@Magpie_Mark92]

I love the old days

[@chrisrea7197]

The edi and Alstom, comengs now. Back then were connected to each other and allowed on any line until m train and connex separated half of the comengs each for refurbishment then until 2007 all edis stayed on the south side and alstoms on the north side. Now in 2016 barley any comengs are seen on the north side of the network burnley and Clifton hill groups.

[@gangstertopo]

Haven't seen a comeng in the Clifton Hill group for a while now. Once the new trains are in, they will be a thing of the past, which will be sad to see.

[@alanlynch200]

Those newer Comeng's sound like they have gec traction motors, similar sound to a 313, 508 etc!

[@calcutt4]

according to wikipedia they do have GEC traction motors, specifically G317AZ motors

[@SuperTrolls]

The met hitachi's look cute

[@glenstransportvideos]

do you see the guy cross the tracks after the first train departed

[@planetX15]

I wonder what his job was?

[@glenstransportvideos]

the guy was a risk taker

[@gerrym75]

He's a station attendant, back then they didn't have screens telling you about the next train, instead it was a pull down sign which needed to be changed after each train left, he's probably crossing to change the sign on the other platform. Rather than walking up the ramp and back down they used to just cross and climb a little step up. Too dangerous these days...

[@dethuponianproductions6377]

If you look closer you can see that there's a pavement across the tracks

[@paulohara8967]

@@gerrym75 Remember them manually changing the signs. Would be all automated today.

[@chrisrea7197]

All edi comengs and Alstom comengs now. Back then were connected to each other and allowed to go on any line until connex and m- train split them apart until the alstoms did the project in 2005-7

[@neilmansfield8329]

Yes and the city and the trains were safe and there was no Covid,no climate change and train travel was safe

[@brianlam1121]

Back when Melbourne was Melbourne.

[@TrickyMario7654]

The Days When the met ran the days when there were carpet in the trains The days when 500M 1109T 533M 671M 1186T 672M ran

[@lachlantrainvideos]

And 305M

[@darylcheshire1618]

no beeping train doors

[@henrythang8816]

New Lilydale

[@derhampaul2182]

1991 geez old

[@BTgla]

Flagstaff still looks the same lol.

[@planetX15]

Where are the PSO's? :P

[@denzel387]

planetx 15 there wore no PSO'S back in 1991 mate

[@planetX15]

the electronic man No kidding? I was saying that, because they were better days back then. (Not sure what is up with your keyboard though)

[@kimtruong3710]

planetX15

[@chiefpred9982]

1:15 did you see that?

[@johnd8892]

Railway staff in Victoria crossing the lines like that was standard practice then and for the previous 140 years.

[@A_couple_of_cakepies]

2:05 why is this guy crossing the track lol

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

maybe someone who works on the railway?

[@willkin2291]

1:16 what the hell was he doing.

[@majestickeldeotm3778]

Is this ILLEGAL? At 2:18

[@louislungbubble]

now yes....then no , normal practice ..

[@djbreadman39]

The escalator at Parliament Station (ifykyk)

[@granthogden4732]

I like watching these train videos, but the other thing I like doing is trying to see if I can spot a younger me

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

good luck! - thanks for watching and commenting

[@derhampaul2182]

And they were an old ugly train I remember the rubber flooring and the windows that opened at the top

[@justinbratton3820]

Notice how many people there, are and how relaxed they are (not in a hurry)....you should do a vid from the same places today 2013 ..........also no aircon in those silver ones,people where built tough then......

[@kathrynpati]

Comeng train- when it pulled up, notice no ‘now arriving at xx’ announcements or annoyingly calling out the station’s name when the doors opened. And no ‘this is a service to xx, stopping all stations’ etc. Those really were the days. I long for the days when these annoying announcements are scrapped.

[@calcutt4]

I think people with visual impairments would disagree

[@nathegotule284]

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[@cellsplicer2008]

Where's all the graffiti...

[@lachlantrainvideos]

None! Yay!

[@adelaideonthego]

0:13 between the two front cars. No where else.

[@darylcheshire1618]

I used to think the Comeng cars were the peak of train technology, now they are being scrapped after 40 years. The Taits were used for 60 years but that was because of a succession of conservative governments. No other railway in the world used 60 year old rolling stock in current revenue service. Regarding Hitachis, I liked them as an improvement over Taits but some people thought they were assembled on the cheap. They rattled a lot compared to the quieter Taits.

[@CitytransportInfoplus]

Until recently some 1938 London Underground tube trains were still in daily service (ie: they lasted 60+ years) and at present the 1972 trains on the Bakerloo line are in their 50s .. and likely to be older than 60 years before they are replaced. But especially electric trains can last a long time. A bigger issue is sourcing spare parts for newer trains which used early forms of electronic train control which are now obsolete. This helped see trains from the 1980s be scrapped earlier than the trains from the 1970s!

[@darylcheshire1618]

@@CitytransportInfoplus I read about the 1938 tube trains on the Isle of Wight that were recently replaced. Yes, the Tait trains needed old technology which were becoming more expensive to be replaced. I think the asbestos brake blocks were just an excuse for the (non-conservative) government to finally phase them out.

[@calcutt4]

The Hitachis were a major improvement over the existing stock, but they were a bit flimsy and lacking in comfort and safety compared to the Comengs, I would say their build quality is roughly on par with the modern X'Trapolis trains

[@mrporsche4236]

When everything looked and felt normal.Now its futuristic soulless robotic nonsense.Its finished!

[@VictorianVlogzooooooo]

why are these idiots crossing a fricking rail when there is a literal bridge

[@calcutt4]

station staff most likely, the old platforms had steps built into the side to allow them to cross faster