Multi-track drum quantization in Melodyne

[@ErikAnders]

After owning and upgrading for many many years I’ve finally begun using melodyne it’s amazing thank you for these videos timing is perfect.

[@bowlingactually]

This is great, as a drummer this is something I've attempted with Melodyne many times with very poor results. But this adds some key pieces that I never knew existed. Thanks very much.

[@SteveOuimette]

Pure gold. I've been working with DAWs since the 90's and am always looking for better ways to tighten up drum tracks. Hadn't had the best luck with Melodyne for that in the past but this seems really promising, especially with the added bonus of changing the feel without phasing issues. I'll definitely be trying this out, thank you!

[@Carsonchildersmusicnow]

I would really love more info on this. Specifically, when I go to load my Mono OH in my other drum tracks to reference, my Mono OH does not appear here and I am having trouble finding info on what would make it a compatible file. I have tried this in ARA Logic and in Melodyne as a stand alone application.

[@celemony]

If you need assistance, our support team will be happy to help: www.celemony.com/support

[@TedTrembinski]

Wow there are multiple pro level tips in this video!! Another gem from Rich opening up the power of Melodyne integrated with Pro Tools!

[@Kobfried]

very well explained - many thanks!👍👍👍

[@flanger001]

This is absolutely amazing and exactly what I purchased Studio for. I was disappointed when I couldn’t quite figure out how to do this, and this has helped so much!

[@GTSongwriter]

I've been using Melodyne since from its earlier, single-version days before it evolved into a product family. I own the Melodyne 5 Studio. It's the most used software of all my software in my DAW!

[@WE2019]

Brilliant! Thank you Rich. Do you have a version for Studio One 6?

[@dannyveras]

Very helpful video, I gotta try learn how to do it, I gota few songs that need quantization!!🙏thanks!!

[@dayzaudio]

Wild. Great videos. And explanations.

[@estabien1782]

absolutely cool, thanx mate

[@MrDexterSr]

Exactly what I needed

[@studiogorilla]

As always... great information, presented clearly!

[@TetraFan1000]

Very informative. Keep up the good work.🙂

[@daverhodesproductions]

If this sounds good then ill give it a go butbits way to fiddly to do this quickly with a client in the session. Please add an easy way to link the tracks and some features to make this more usable in the next version of melodyne!! Thanks!

[@masoudshokrai5886]

As a Melodyne Essential user, i like to know if your different video instructions apply to Essentil version, like a note in the title. I get confuse when I follow your instructions and it does not work. Thank you

[@haileyjang5490]

Thank you for the good video. However, what should I do if nothing appears in ‘Load note data Assignment from a Capitable File’?

[@celemony]

Please contact our Tech Support team, they will be happy to help: www.celemony.com/support

[@midasmusicco.5192]

@@celemony Its essential all the parts are exactly the same length - exactly! If not it wont work

[@GregorySM2010]

Is it possible to quantize multiple choir parts using MELODYNE 5 Studio? Thank you!🎶

[@celemony]

Melodyne studio has a ‘Quantize to reference track’ option in the Quantize Time macro. Have you tried it yet?

[@polanve]

Hi, I'm glad to see you working with percussion! For conga drums, the whole 'set' - bass, tone, slap, etc. is recorded as one. It would be great if Melodyne could differentiate these sounds and display them as different notes on the grid, so we can edit each of them individually, for example giving different tonal treatment, or adjusting the pitch of the tone hit vs. the bass or slap.

[@alexbreyer6921]

Wow. That would be great. Because those sounds bleed into one another so much, I'm not sure how they'd achieve that. But they somehow do it with guitar chords.

[@stevenwhite4809]

My current workaround, I use the percussive algorithm, and duplicate the track 3 or 4 times, then I use the 'note off' on to make each track have just the one sound I want to control. It is time consuming, but effective. If Melodyne could just recognize that they are different sounds, and place each on its own row, I could select all instances of each tone by clicking on the note name, instead of having to go through manually and click on each individual blob.@@alexbreyer6921

[@andrew_nayes]

There was an app called "Regroover Pro" that separated different stems from a single drum track (kick, snare, hihats, etc) but unfortunately the company was bought, and now the app can't be used anymore :(

[@Micouniverse]

Thank you very much. 🍀

[@msld_sound]

Very cool! It’s so easy to quantize now. But don’t tell Rick Beato about this 😳😳😳

[@celemony]

Well, it’s not just to fix things, it’s also to get creative and try out new grooves and timings, for example. Pretty sure Rick wouldn’t mind. 🙂

[@laroorecords]

Awesome!!

[@thaddeuscorea]

Absolutely Great! I have used Melodyne for many years. Can I apply this multi-mic note assignment technique to adjusting the pitch of a single vocal take which was recorded with multiple microphones?? This would be especially useful to me when I record a room microphone and close microphone on a vocal performance, but I want to retain the ability to change the balance of the two microphones. So, I need to pitch correct both tracks the exact same way.

[@celemony]

Please contact our Tech Support team, they will be happy to help: www.celemony.com/support - Thanks!

[@thaddeuscorea]

@@celemony I would really love to hear from Mr. Crescenti, or anyone who has an answer. I suppose i will be trying to figure it out myself very shortly anyway. Thank you.

[@celemony]

@@thaddeuscorea Yes, it should be possible with vocals as well. Feel free to let us know your results!

[@djgalawak]

nice work ;) cheers

[@ahw5hcgfyj]

still using the hi-beam flashbang sungazer gui in 2023?

[@jophilippi1378]

Well, I'm trying to do that with some drums, but when I click on that "load data from compatible..." the window remains empty. There doesn't seem to be any compatible data. What am I doing wrong here?

[@celemony]

Please contact our Tech Support team, they will be happy to help: www.celemony.com/support

[@dannyveras]

Sorry but I didn’t quite understand how do you get all the drum tracks in one melodyne session ? Is it automatically connected ?

[@celemony]

This is Melodyne studio, our multi-track edition. All Melodyne tracks will show up in one single window. Are you perhaps using a different Melodyne edition?

[@dannyveras]

No I have the studio , I just haven’t found the time to mess around with it, but I will when possible , I know this is gonna help me quantize ! Thanks

[@madhtrr]

Thanks for the demo :) BUT ... I just noticed it only does 8 tracks at a time even when I select my 14. Is that some kind of limit? 8 looks suspiciously like a computery number to this software developer :)

[@celemony]

There is no track limit in Melodyne studio. Which version have you got exactly?

[@madhtrr]

@@celemony Sorry fo the late reply, I was out of town ... Melodyne Studio 5.3.1.018 Cakewalk by Bandlab v 2023.09 (Build 075, 64 Bit) Thanks! I'm continuing to investigate myself as well.

[@celemony]

Then please contact our support team for assistance: www.celemony.com/support

[@kefiband79]

Great vid. How do you get the drum tracks on to Melodyne? Same as previous? Is there a different way? Thanking you in advance. Great work.

[@celemony]

Please contact our Tech Support team, they will be happy to help: www.celemony.com/support - Thx!

[@tekis0]

DAWs with ARA, Pro Tools, Logic, Studio 1, etc, have Melodyne built in to every audio track in the project. One has to simply just turn it on.

[@celemony]

@@tekis0 That’s right. And in DAWs without ARA, you simply hit the Transfer button in Melodyne and play through the part that you want to edit.

[@mrbelle8760]

Great video but how does this work in Studio One and Fl Studio?

[@tekis0]

Studio One, yes. FL, no.

[@omarbonifacino3381]

Is a numper One ❤❤

[@midasmusicco.5192]

Hmm, doesnt work great for me. Timing is way out on fills and complex parts. I have also run into an issue just moving parts into time manually. It leaves things short, so, if you have a ride cymbal it stutters because of the gaps - how do you deal with that? Another issue ic digital clicking appearing on other parts. How to deal with these things isnt explained. If anyone knows how to deal with these issues, please drop a line on here. Thanks

[@celemony]

The key issue here seems to be that you first need to make sure that Melodyne’s automatic note detection is correct before you start editing. This is done in Note Assignment mode. If you need assistance with this, please feel free to reach out to our support guys: www.celemony.com/support

[@blackorangegraphite]

That's awesome! In which Melodyne versions is multitrack quantizing possible?

[@celemony]

In Melodyne studio, check the table here for further info: www.celemony.com/en/melodyne/melodyne-5-editions

When editing with this method, for some reason I get a lot of clicks and artefacts in the bass drum. Is it possible that using the overhead mic as assignment data breaks the bass drum transients because the sound arrives later to the overhead mic from bass drum? Anyone else having problems like this?

As a workaround for this problem was, that I mixed down a guide track from the gated close mics and used that as assignment data. Then the transients did not break apart when editing/quantizesing

[@celemony]

Hello, please feel free to contact our support team about this: www.celemony.com/support

[@alexbreyer6921]

So is this doing something similar to Sound Radix Auto-Align in result?

[@tekis0]

No. Sound Radix fixes "phase relationships" Between microphones. Melodyne fixes timing performances.

[@hajoherz7728]

Hi, does the grid setting in Melodyne (ARA-mode) have priority over the grid setting of the project? For example: Grid setting in Melodyne is 16th and in Project is 8th notes. Which grid setting will be used in Melodyne, when I use the timing macro? By the way, I am working with Nuendo 12.

[@celemony]

Hello, please contact our Tech Support team, they will be happy to help: www.celemony.com/support

[@DrummerJamaica]

thank you so much for your very very helpful video! I have a question for you: If I use RipX to isolate the drum track of a Song which is an audio file. Put this audio file into Melodyne 5 Studio and choose the Percussive (pitched) Algorithm to separate the single drums elements. How I am going from there to get in the end a single MIDI file which I can put in my DAW along with a Drum VST like EZdrummer 3 and assign drum sounds to each of the drum elements in the MIDI file?

[@celemony]

We can’t speak for third-party software, but generally speaking, whatever you see as blobs in Melodyne can be exported to a MIDI file. There’s a ‘Save as MIDI’ option in the menu.

[@felixpiccu4498]

Is this done by stretching the audio? Or is the audio being moved?

[@celemony]

You can do both, depending on how you separate the notes (hard vs. soft separation). It’s all in the manual. 😉

[@boimesa8190]

only in protools?

[@celemony]

This is also possible in other DAWs that support ARA.

[@paulcole1171]

Hi Can you do note slides in Melodyne

[@celemony]

Please contact our Tech Support team, they will be happy to help: www.celemony.com/support

[@RichardFWDavis-yr2km]

Can you go more into why you’d only use kick and overhead for timing references? It seems like this would wreck the phase relationships in the kit - as the snare mic will see snare before the overhead does. So if the reference is the overhead, and the snare mic is a little earlier, isn’t that going to shear off the transient of the snare?

[@tekis0]

I believe he used only one of the overheads for the timing reference. The overheads will have some of every drum in them, usually.

[@RichardFWDavis-yr2km]

@@tekis0 Yes, but what's odd is that the overhead is later than the snare mic, which would imply that it would be shaving off the snare transient by a small amount. Seems like it would be better to use a mono mix of direct mics as a reference.

[@RichardFWDavis-yr2km]

This strikes me as a clever workaround , in the manner of the "faster than realtime" hack in ProTools - it fools the system into doing the phase coherent thing by forcing it to use the same timing reference on all tracks, which is fine if extremely cumbersome - I wish they would design the software to do this task specifically - but it would make more sense to use a combo of mics that are direct sources. Even better: tell the software what group of tracks you want to use as a reference, then the software goes through and decides what signals are earliest and uses those for its composite map; then tell it to apply that map to selected other tracks. Two steps instead of many clicks and menu selections.

[@PickUpGoliath]

Great functionality. But Logic Pro flex editing is way faster and easier!

[@ExisteDiosInc]

Dont forget to move and quantize the tails of the previous hit also... If you just quantize the beginning of the hit but not the tails of the previous, you will get your sound cut off like cymbal hits and stuff like that...

[@celemony]

Melodyne stretches all adjacent notes accordingly for you. You don’t have to do it manually. 🙂

[@ExisteDiosInc]

@@celemony interesting... It's not doing it with mine.. is there something I might be missing?

[@celemony]

Please feel free to contact our support team for assistance: www.celemony.com/support

[@midasmusicco.5192]

@@ExisteDiosInc or for me

[@ParmerleeTube]

I can't follow the process when the mouse is being dragged wildly all over the place. It does no good to say "this button right here" when we can't see the mouse. Try using a mouse setting with a larger pointer and tails. I wanted to lear something from this session, but it was just too frustrating.

[@thetonefactory]

How did you get them in melodyne?

[@celemony]

In a DAW that supports ARA, you choose ‘Edit with Melodyne’ from the menu. In other DAWs, you instantiate Melodyne as a plug-in, hit the Transfer button in Melodyne, and play through the part you wish to edit.

[@thetonefactory]

@@celemony, I was wondering how you were using it in that example.

[@celemony]

Oh, okay. In Pro Tools, you can right-click a track and choose Melodyne from the pop-up menu. See also here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ep63cql4l6ujh7M

[@Byron101_]

Pro Tools and Cubase e.g. have a much faster way to align multiple drum tracks in phase lock. No need for Melodyne for this.

[@manvince]

I totally disagree with your reasoning. The more ways of doing something we have the better. Otherwise why innovate? I applaud celemony for always pushing the envelope. ARA is very good example of this.

[@srsolo1977]

melodyne needs a group mode. manually assigning 20 drum tracks is an awful workflow

[@JimDooley]

Yes, this workflow is horrendous.

[@celemony]

We’re aware that this method is just a ‘Melodyne hack’. Let’s see what a future Melodyne version will bring. 😉

[@srsolo1977]

@@celemony ooooo I cannot wait! tease me! tease me! ❤️

[@celemony]

@@srsolo1977 Not promising anything here, just saying that this would certainly be a useful feature.

[@JimDooley]

Sorry, I'm not usually the type of person to complain every chance I get, but this workflow is horrendous, all this repeated mode switching, scrolling and menu navigation for setting up the template track takes forever if you have more than a couple of tracks. In 2023 I would expect this to be a one click operation.

[@celemony]

You’re right, it’s not a feature yet, it’s just a cool hack. But at least you have a workaround in Melodyne to make this happen. We’re aware there’s room for improvement. 🙂

[@JimDooley]

@@celemony Fair enough. I hope to see the improvement someday. I have the full and most recent version, but I have yet to use it on any finished piece. For everything I've tried to use it for, I always seem to find a better solution than Melodyne, including manual editing and writing my own Reaper scripts. Anyway, I sincerely hope to see Melodyne improve and thrive. I think could be pretty great with some improvement.

[@iaingraham7276]

Would never deal with Celemony ever again. Don’t care what they claim their software can do.

[@celemony]

Sorry to hear that you seem to have problems with Melodyne. Please contact our Tech Support team, they will be happy to help: www.celemony.com/support - Thanks!

[@nolannosuchthing3190]

Dat shirt tho.

[@MichaelGonzalez-od2mj]

Hoodlum blacky

[@kaarlohyotylanmaki6566]

HALUAN SUOMEKSI.

[@josefelison4776]

💐 "promo sm"

[@retromograph3893]

Great example of what’s killed music over the last 25 years….. how about just putting a great drummer behind a nice kit in a sweet sounding room and recording it, without all the extra nonsense?

[@celemony]

Sure, if you have a great drummer at hand, go for it. On the other hand, editing recordings after the fact has been part of the industry ever since people began recording music. Even the best bands, e.g. The Beatles, have done it to some degree. 🙂

[@steveshadforth8792]

Omg takes a few seconds in Logic Pro x yyyyaaaaswwwwwwwn