"Memories of The Future" | Attack On Titan 4x20 REACTION!!

[@JaredandJordan]

What dimension have we entered into...😵‍💫 patreon.com/jaredandjordanANIME

[@BorneoCrocodile]

Christopher Nolan-verse

[@dhanx1484]

Thank you Eren for making Isayama write this amazing story.

[@jlboss_ps4751]

Ong

[@carydum9356]

"Isayama elaborated that he was influenced by Yuki Kaji, the Japanese voice actor of anime. As Kaji’s empathetic performance established Eren as a “good guy”, the mangaka rethought his stance and tried to shift his ending to fit the portrayal of his protagonist in the anime. He struggled with the ending, going through writer’s block before finally deciding how to conclude his saga. Isayama stated that he is still unsure if he has overcome that struggle, and is still plagued by doubts about whether or not he has “landed it.” However, the convention-goers were quick to reassure him that they appreciate him and his hard work." --Hajime Isayama, appearance at the Anime NYC Convention on 19-Nov-2022, reported by Sportskeeda AOT is meta

[@Lock-Vlog]

This is absolutely true

[@tappytibbons735]

The flash of young Eren's face, is the same face he made after kissing Historia's hand. It is when he first saw all of this.

[@Lock-Vlog]

Absolutely that's the second I saw Eren mad so much... The first is Eren face mad when the time eat her mother by a Titan... This is crazy

[@김설리-t7l]

In fact, it was not just this scene that he saw, but Eren was actually sending memories through the Founding Titan, and when he kissed Historia's hand, he saw his future.. End his.....

[@daviddowney-fe7xw]

THEY NOT READY

[@WaillerC5]

Nobody ever is

[@poke-d4r]

Yeah, even Japanese. Everybody confuse

[@SimplyDarknes]

They truly aren't. I still think Eren's next line is the coldest in anime EVER. I can't wait till they hear it next episode. PLEASE LISTEN OUT FOR IT, ITS A MASTERPIECE after what all they've both been through. Then walking through their father's memories, just for Eren to say THAT.......COLD 🥶

[@Godiemata]

This Episode right here sealed AOT as the greatest show of all time for Humanity even in the next generations. It can’t get any better than this surely.

[@NotInformedOfficial]

Eren orchestrated everything. that's the whole point of the episode

[@specialyt6665]

😂

[@552porotogym]

You think a man just happens to kill an entire family like that? No!

[@Sand_WraithPL]

​@@552porotogymHe orchestrated it! Eren!

[@AvesZephyros]

@@Sand_WraithPL He defecated through a sunroof!

[@nnightkingj]

@@552porotogymwhen the family is directly causing your people’s suffering and you know it ? Yes you do

[@yasglas]

no matter how many times i watch that episode utterly amazed at the voice actor hits everytime

[@jamescunliffe1718]

This is personally my favorite episode in the whole show. This twist is truly insane when you realise all the details of it. PEAK FICTION

[@lorenzobortolani5286]

What I liked most is that I understood why Eren made that face while kissing historia’s hand, imagine having to process a future you determining an event that happened in the past and that would’ve been different, without the future you there, and since the past can’t change, and it depends on the future, the future also can’t change. There I understood why he completely froze up

[@Jebokajin]

​@@lorenzobortolani5286 This schould be a main Comment. Ngl

[@dayleywhaley2420]

@@lorenzobortolani5286 What's interesting in this episode aswell is just before Eren makes his dad take the lives of the Reiss family, zeke says to Eren "You said you saw this memory before and that you was disgusted", which is interesting as when Eren kissed Historia's hand he would of literally seen this memory of himself standing there disgusted before pushing his dad to do it

[@lorenzobortolani5286]

@@Jebokajin I’ll do it right now

[@mmertduman]

The parallels are crazy. The Attack Titan has never bowed to anybody for centuries. Always seeking freedom. The memories of the future (well, Eren) influence the past. On the flip side, the inheritors of the Founding Titan are bound by the vow renouncing war. The memories of the past (the king) influence the future. This is the moment where the two clash.. accompanied by time-bending Eren & Zeke. And it is revealed that Eren has been playing 5D chess this whole time. He puts the final nail in the Founding Titan coffin by reminding Grisha what he fights for. What they all fought for. Eldia. His sister. His comrades. To avenge them. “Keep moving forward. Even if you die. Even after you die”. Very fitting for the Attack Titan. If you keep moving forward, you will witness the future, and the Attack Titan owns the future. Not only that but its revealed that Grisha, the main plot maker of AoT, the heartless father who started it all, actually gave it up for his family. Until young Eren says “if noone takes their place, theirs deaths will be for nothing”. Adult Eren stares him in the eye, making sure Grisha gives the key to him. There are a million details to write about.. its insane.

[@willr6026]

1 of the greatest episodes in anime history for me

[@alper4119]

You know, a villian is just a broken "hero". Eren is true definition of that.

[@FarazKhan-dq8qh]

amazing detail here 34:29 , eren says to grisha, " you keep moving forward, even if you die, aren't you the one who started this story" , these were the same words used by owl in s3e21

[@TheGalaxarD]

Zeke: Look Eren how your father manipulated you Eren: haha

[@ItachiEspada]

Hits him with the Uno Reverse

[@ace_syo]

I had goosebumps, the first time I watched this episode… Eren’s fury and intensity The music Eren convincing Grisha to kill the Reiss family GRISHA’S VA🫠 wow. Just wow

[@binxbb9234]

I love watching people try to figure out this episode for the first time lol

[@aracuscesar]

but theyre kinda dumb tbh

[@Dark__Thoughts]

You can watch the intro after episode 22 (Thaw) btw. 18:27 Imagine being stuck there for a long time, like 2000 years real world time or something crazy... >_> Explanation: The attack titan holder cannot see the future, but he can send memories back to previous attack titan holders, even before they hold the attack titan - including his own past self (remember Eren waking up from a "dream" & crying in episode 1 of season 1?). This means they can basically influence the past. That's why Grisha asked why Eren did not show him everything, and what happened to Carla - her fate that he only learned about when he went back to little Eren in the refugee camp. That's also how Grisha was able to see Zeke, because Eren was sending back his memories from wandering through his memories with Zeke. When Grisha stared at Eren when he held the key, he basically saw memories of staring at himself in that moment. Eren basically manipulated his own fater, his own younger self, Eren Kruger, and possibly many more attack titan holders in the past to do what he wants them to do. Attack on Titan is Eren's villain origin story. And when Eren kissed Historia's hand, he saw that himself as well - which is why he looked so shook, and why he became so quiet and grew his hair out within the year after, when they went to the sea. He knew what he'd become, what he'd do. And oh what a sight it was... But basically none of the things that already happened were possible, if Zeke in the future didn't take Eren through those memories, because Eren needed this to send them back to Grisha and coerce him to do what he did. It's not time travel in of itself, but still a time paradox. The wild thing are the implications of it. Like, how far back goes Eren's influence? Was he responsible for Marley somehow being able to fight back against Eldia's world domination during the great titan war and forcing Eldians onto the Island? Is he the reason why attack titan holders were so rebellious?

[@lorenzobortolani5286]

What I liked most about this plot twist is that I understood why Eren made that face while kissing historia’s hand: imagine having to process a future you determining an event that happened in the past and that would’ve been different, without the future you there, and since the past can’t change, and it depends on the future, the future also can’t change. There I understood why he completely froze up

[@bonzi5516]

But the future isn t like something that u are forced to follow. That future is influenced by the choices that eren would make in any universe

[@lorenzobortolani5286]

@@bonzi5516well he quite literally is forced to follow the future cause the past depends on it. Time travel in this series is predeterministic, meaning what will happen has to happen and cannot be changed, for example the crystal catacomb memory would create a paradox if Eren doesn’t manipulate his father, meaning he will have to force him to do it cause it already happened, and it cannot change otherwise Eren wouldn’t even exist as the possessor of the founder, just the attack titan. Hope that was clear enough

[@bonzi5516]

@lorenzobortolani5286 yeah, nothing will change, but now eren isn t like forced to do what he saw and he didn t want this. There just isn t any possibility that eren would choose something else than he saw in the future. For exemple in that situation with Ramzi. He knew he was gonna save him and he could just leave and not follow the future, but there isn t any universe in which he would let that kid to be beaten by those people. I hope I explained it quite clearly

[@thedysprosium]

this episode is where the writing of this amazing story peaks. all the three Yeagers in this show are literally swapped in character at this point. zeke yeager, who the viewers thought was like a villian, turns out is actually not evil. grisha yeager who we taught killed the royal family out of pure revenge didnt and couldn’t do it, eren made him. and eren yeager who is the hero of this show, turns out is the main evil. absolutely mind fucking.

[@ImpactfulEASON]

I think evil isn't the right word, as villains normally don't think they're villains, they are just normal people do the things they want and fit into their moral standards. To me Zeke/Grisha/Eren are all normal people doing normal things (in their perspectives), and that's what make them "feel real"

[@m.q.m.39]

​@@ImpactfulEASONdoes his bloodlust normal to you?

[@thedysprosium]

@@ImpactfulEASON what i meant here by evil is how manipulative eren was to the other with his intentions straight. he knows he is wrong but has no choice

[@ImpactfulEASON]

@@m.q.m.39 normal or not it's not my opinion that matters, it's their opinions that matter (to them)

[@ImpactfulEASON]

@@thedysprosium By that standard, many people are evil, even your or my parents, to me that's just how people get things they want. It's a debate of procedural justice

[@Ridi2k]

THE GREATEST EPISODE OF THE WHOLE SHOW

[@yasglas]

top 5 or 3 easy

[@osmorca618]

@@yasglas It's easily top 1 imo, which eps do you have above it?

[@hugo1157]

@@osmorca6183x16,3x17

[@saiyen9378]

of all time too probably

[@Taymeho]

Damn, was expecting them to slap each other 😂 I think they were too confused to though.

[@Snirbysaurus]

Ya’ll’s silence at the end LMFAOO

[@zyzizi9687]

EREN THE GREATEST MANIPULATOR

[@hessiankyojin]

Hope the patrons explained to you how the future memories worked, because it got explained to me clearly in paragraph form.

[@DiES3L24]

The point at which all paths converge…. We keep moving forward

[@shanecarter6902]

I fuckin' love these guys' conversations. Too many podcasts without these two involved. Gimme' that Bro Rogans Experience.

[@DyslexicHorse]

4x21 my favorite episode im looking forward to the next reaction

[@zelraim]

I waited months for your reaction on this 😂😂😂😂

[@aracuscesar]

you waited in the paths with zeke too

[@El_samuuu]

Ok so a while ago I read a KZbin comment that really helped me understand this one episode better, so here it is: Notice how Grisha can only see Zeke when Eren is standing behind Grisha, because Grisha can remember future Eren's memories, and so he knows at some point Eren will navigate in his memories and Eren remembers Zeke standing right in front of Grisha. It's not that Grisha can see them, it's more like he remembers they're eventually gonna be there. Also, Grisha asks Eren why he won't let him see all the memories, which implies that Eren has the capability to decide which memories to show and which not to. That's also a MAYOR reveal, because that means that Eren wanted Zeke to live that lil moment with his dad and he is not really completely a villian. But it also means that it's EREN, NOT ANYONE ELSE, who has been manipulating the whole lineage of attack titans, by showing the past hosts of the attack titan only those memories which are useful so that they will all follow the path that would lead to this point in time... Also, if Grisha has already seen what Eren has planned, it means it already happened and future Eren, once he accomplished his goal (which we still don't really know yet) was able to show Grisha what happens. Everything that occurs from here on out is already unmodifiable. Another and last little mindblow, we now know that Eren saw the memories of the royal family murder when he kissed Historia's hand, therefore he already knew HE was the one that, via memory mindfvck, convinced his dad to do all of it. But if he was able to see his dad's memories, then he probably also saw HIS OWN MEMORIES OF THE FUTURE, because his dad already knew. Remember his reaction when Sasha's death happened? And in future episodes, with Ramzi it's the same story. Ever since he saw the future, he's been trying to change all that will happen, without success. He is actually the only one who isn't free, Eren is the slave of freedom.

[@bonzi5516]

it s better to edit and delete the last paragraph man. At this point it s not revealed that eren knows too. That is said only in the last episode

[@apersonatoall]

@@bonzi5516 the brothers (jared and jordan) finished the show like 8 months ago lol, there's no spoilers

[@bonzi5516]

@@apersonatoall oh))

[@Illusion_Leonhardt]

@@apersonatoall it was 3 months ago i think

[@ColonialSun-mg6tq]

Erens got an uno reverse card and they will not be prepared 😂

[@ClawCollect]

I do not understand why the fans often want people to watch the 3 episodes in a row. This episode is the MOST important episode to let simmer! It is stupid to force all the episodes through. I remember watching this episode about 7 times before the next episode aired, it was that good! And let time to process everything.

[@bonzi5516]

So, The attack titan user can see the future by the next attack users, but only what they let the previous attack titan user to see( grisha can see the future by the memories of eren, but he can t see everything, just what eren let him see. But eren can see every memory of grisha ) . So Grisha was able to see/hear eren and zeke by letting grisha see eren s perspective when they are in grisha s memories. So for exemple in the last scene, what didn t see anything in real life, but he could see in his mind through eren s eyes himself looking at zeke. Also in the manipulation moment Eren was popping the images with dina and grisha s sister in grisha s mind to make him unalive the reiss family ( all of them, but the father because he was important later in the story) He also showed him glimpses of what s gonna happen next in the anime, that s why he knew terrible things gonna happen. After he realized grisha tells zeke to stop eren and you may be asking,, why did he give eren the titan then? ". Because as u can see he says,, why won t u show me everything? The day the wall falls. If Carla is safe" so eren didn t show him that and when he goes home and find out about Carla he goes mad and gives Eren the titan by saying,, avenge your mother"

[@deeegeeekay]

i’m sorry to say this but they already finished the series. this comment is not helpful to them 😢

[@bonzi5516]

@deeegeeekay still gotta spread the facts🗣️

[@deeegeeekay]

@@bonzi5516 ur right

[@zx0334]

Imagine Their Children Saw this Eps and their child become. "My dad and his twin is crazy, because they keep ruining each other Dragmatic word"😂😂😂

[@ahmedm.4300]

CAN"T WAIT

[@Shoebeedoobe]

You guys are so lucky you didn’t have to wait weeks/months/years for episodes 😂

[@bdeann3000]

Ohhhhh I’ve been waiting on this one😂🫣

[@aniblaze]

From my perspective on this episode: In the last episode Zeke mentions something along the lines of "This is where the founder expends untold years every time we ask for the power of the titans", in other words, whenever someone transforms into a titan in the real world, the founder Ymir uses the sand in the paths to build those titan bodies, because in the paths time is both instant and infinite. For her it's a slow process like when she was rebuilding Zeke's body after he exploded due to the thunder spear, but in the real world it happens within seconds. This episode where they walk through memories, I believe the entire set they walk through is basically also built through those sands in the paths, which is why I think physical touch is possible. But it's essentially a replay of events that happened in the past, so naturally nobody can interact with entities from the future... except Grisha. Every time Eren sends back memories to Grisha in the past in the memories they are walking through, interaction is made possible between Eren from the future, and Grisha from the past, within those memories. So everything Eren sees in the future in the memories he's sending back through the Attack Titans' power, including Zeke, becomes visible to Grisha as well.

[@atone8051]

You right, eren is the last attack titan so.. continue to watch bro's from france love watching you and love your reflexion and developpement ✌️

[@daynajacob6312]

The made some good deductions. I was completely lost the first time. lol.

[@BluffAlmighty]

oh i've been waiting for this one

[@WilliamXiaPADWMX]

The incredible thing about this episode is that it doesn't invalidate anything that has happened. In fact the right way of thinking about it is that everything that happened to Grisha has already occurred, and you're only finding out all the details now. And it's also crazy to think of the perspective and how insane of an experience it would be to both be yourself but also experience the memory of someone interacting with you. Grisha while not able to see Eren next to him, can simultaneously see through Eren's eyes and feel the rage and hatred he had towards Freida in that moment. And when Grisha falls to the ground, he would be himself while also be looking down on himself from Eren's memory and hearing future Eren's voice seemingly come from his own mouth. Another thing which I'm not sure if you guys caught is that it seems Eren holds the power to share his memories to the past, not so much that past inheritors can "see the future". This episode completely re-contextualizes the series with Eren being the reason for everything.

[@buddatree]

There's a show called Black Mirror and it has an episode where people have some kind of chip installed that records what they see at all times and people can play back those memories on a tv and even down load memories onto a flashdrive. This episode of AoT is kinda like that.

[@sanamn8543]

Eren the goat

[@TheNoisyBoyz]

Imagine having the time to put on two different shirts and react to the same episode twice. To top it off he even edits it like he is talking to himself.

[@arckon737]

The face at the end that Zeke saw of young Eren is from when he touches Historia, when he saw himself manipulating grisha and is disgusted about it.

[@mrspoon3077]

Im excited to see your guys reaction to next episode prepare for peak anime brothers!

[@mushroomguy2712]

Imagine seeing your own future at your father’s memories, it’s really fucked up everything is set in stone and you cant do anything about it

[@8_makes_1_team_37]

They're not really making physical contact it's mora like Eren's touching the nothing, same story when Grisha hug Zeke

[@rivanitika]

Eren : "hehehehe 🤭"

[@HachimaruuTV]

So everything that is going is kinda like "future-present". Eren is going through memories with Zeke and because these are happening right now, Grisha can see them in the past through Eren memories. Thats why Grisha can see zeke can hear Eren, these are all Eren memories Grisha is seeing in real time.

[@braintrust02]

Watching this and peak demon slayer in the same day changed my brain.

[@JaredandJordan]

We’ll be staring demon slayer on our Patreon at the end of this month!!

[@armycar2795]

Eren 👽

[@HellGod67]

15:00 OMFG guys It's J and E XD

[@FaizalAmirBashiira]

Omg the sketch tho 😂

[@MasPandan]

*EREN = VILLAIN* 😁

[@Aizy_010]

In the next episode strengthen your hearts more 😂

[@lordwarryl5712]

What a good way to sent a message to your future son on one of the most fucked up episode in aot haha

[@becauseihavetheeyes]

wow erens aura is actually appalling

[@shakilajannati]

It was Eren all along 😂.

[@사냥이과하면사냥당한]

존나 명작

[@PNOman12]

They were in fact not ready 😭

[@ASageCalledQ]

Tbh the King Fritz that created the vow sounds like the real enemy to me.

[@Spaceman2921]

But he in the end has the same goal as Eren which is to stop war, at least for a generation or so

[@ASageCalledQ]

@@Spaceman2921 He failed horribly.

[@Spaceman2921]

@@ASageCalledQ Well he got 80% of the way there

[@ASageCalledQ]

@@Spaceman2921 I'm calling Fritz the failure not Eren. lol

[@Spaceman2921]

@@ASageCalledQ oh right lol. It still worked for a couple of generations. I think Fritz himself said it wasn't a permanent solution. He knew it would all go bad in the end.

[@skeleton07gg75]

Let's go

[@nnightkingj]

What’s crazy about the king of the walls ideals about eldians needing to die off and face judgement, people should have the power of the titans. It all literally makes no sense because even if all paradis eldians die off the titans are still existing and still being abused in Marley

[@arclite95]

Yup you guessed it. The show is a clear case of retrocausality.

[@RickDaRula13]

*shows clips of the royal children before Grisha stabs hand* Mikasa Armin yep. WHAT!? Not even close to looking like them.

[@Shuyin128MK4]

And just like that, the prologue of the story is over. TIME TO STRAP IN!

[@oussamarajawi1016]

🔥🔥

[@Chief_066]

Hear me out on watching mha 🙏🙏

[@aracuscesar]

50 minutes??, bruh

[@lumonox]

Don’t say Gm

[@kamikishin7221]

Day 86 of spreading the faith in our Lord, The Fool 🙏. Hope you two check out the trailers for Lord of The Mysteries, a chinese anime(donghua) coming out next year. The rest of the comment is a small glimpse of why you should watch it as it is one of the greatest webnovels ever written and it even joined the national library of China earlier this year with how big it is over there. With the way you like to analyze everything you will love it as the biggest charm of it is unraveling mysteries and how things work. Absolute masterpiece of a story even though the first arc is off-putting for a lot of people since it's setting up the base for the entire world with alot of informations given to us. It's going as far as setting up a real currency and political system for every countries. We got confirmation that every episode will be more than 30 minutes long with at least 12 episodes for 5 seasons confirmed which would translate to half of the book (volume 4/5 out of 8) It has one of the greatest power systems in anything I've seen/heard of and changes genres throughout time. We got more than 10 pathways each starting from sequence 9 then sequence 8 etc with each of them having different abilities and needing a ritual to go to the next level. The fun fact here is that the higher you go, the more likely you are to become insane, so people that are your teammates today will become horrible monsters tomorrow. It starts off as a mystery/horror/police thing as we follow a team of policemen tasked to destroy evil beings in their city and it expands much more into an epic/horror/historical tale that knows no bounds. The secondary characters are very memorable since we get their point of views for a while from time to time. The main character uses his cheat to act as a god and make his own cult which becomes the main cast. The antagonists are TERRIFYING and bully the others throughout the whole show (they're here since episode 1 lol) Definitely recommend reading at least the first volume before the anime comes out.

[@Shortstacklover69]

The true Nightmare is coming

[@Shortstacklover69]

Eren is the final Boss

[@Shortstacklover69]

Eren is the final Boss