Top Ten Bikes 2002: Episode 5 - Sports Middle Weights

In this episode of 'Top Ten Bikes', we'll be looking at the top 10 sports middle weights, as chosen by our expert Men & Motors panel. Which one will get the much coveted number 1 spot?
Originally aired on Men and Motors TV channel on 22/01/2003
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[@imrightyourewrong6274]

2021 and just picked up a 2000 CBR600F (Ultima light). One owner from new, immaculate and 15k on the clock. The last time I rode something 21 years old it got me in nearly as much trouble as this will. Honda build quality 👌🏼

[@leoslayer3304]

Just picked one up also! 2000 CBR600F4 Ultima light, a bargain at just over a bag a sand, 20k on the clock, great bike.

[@HalfdeadRider]

Not just Honda, I have an awesome Y2k ZX9r amazing bikes, the ZX6r's are great too, exactly the same apart from capacity.

[@dave8204]

@@HalfdeadRider Still some very nice old ZX9R's around,I borrowed one for a day but too much for my ancient dodgy wrists. Nicest bike I've ever ridden was one of the last carb'd Fireblades, couldn't believe how easy it was to ride and how comfortable.

[@HalfdeadRider]

@@dave8204 The ZX9r's are very comfortable for sportbikes, as long as you keep relaxed arms and a light grip, you should not have an issue with wrist pain, I never have. Mine is a beast of a bike still, keeps with modern bikes no problem, definitely better than the old blades imo. Click on my name to take a look if you like, nice pics on my banner and plenty of vids.

[@jordangarrick703]

@@HalfdeadRider I had a 2000 ZX-9R....great bike. I much prefer the larger, bulbous look and feel of those older bikes over these tiny new ones. I recently sat on a '22 GSXR-750 and couldn't believe how small it was. Felt like a toy machine

[@1100HondaCB]

I had a 2002 ZZR600 and it was a great bike. It was fast and comfortable.

[@byronsmit1959]

Love my Honda F4. Still got the power to hold its own.

[@trevormercier9074]

They are absolutely beautiful bikes my favourite. I bought the same this weekend and loving it so much compared to all the other past bikes i had. My cbr is 2000 year cbr 600f and feels and looks like a brand new bike.

[@APaul-se6pe]

Youd love mine. I completely rebuilt the engine top to bottom, 100% of it. Yes that includes bolts and nuts too. I'm giving it to my son when he turns 16. I gotta say its sexy for a banana seat. The motor was so beautiful upon recounting. Good for another 100k kilometers.

[@Krezo200]

@@APaul-se6pe sounds great I will bzy a pc25 in a week

[@ridhwanramzi4773]

@@Krezo200 make sure it's sunrise yellow 💛💙

[@Krezo200]

@@ridhwanramzi4773 its red/black mate 😂

[@ZEUS-xt3dt]

Well it’s 2018 and I have a great clean low mile 2004 Yamaha thunder cat and I love it 😍

[@FatRakoon]

I wanted a ZZR6 when they first came out. I did eventually get one many years later, and the one I got had been absolutely hammered, used and abused. The thing is, that I also treated it like a piece of dirt and it never EVER let me down. Actually, I will be honest, it did fail, but the cause was the vaccuum pipe got heated and split, thus causing the fuel to fail to get to the carb. I cured this by snipping the pipe and it cured it for another year or so... It wwent again and I instantly knew hwo to cure it, but this time the pipe could not fully reach as Isnipped a bit too much off... I replaced it with a brand new pipe and it never let me down again. One time, I even stripped the whole bike down, to rebuild it with all clean bits etc, and the shed blew down in the wind.. The entire bike was them duped in the garden for about 8 months, including the enginer bewing left without the top end on. Then, one day, I decided to see if it could be fixed up rather than dumped and I got the engine running and so I put it all together again, and it ran withotu issues for another year or two and I sold it off. Only two months ago, I was looking at getting another... It was selling in a local bike shop, I made the decision to get it, but it had been sold. The wife also said that she missed the ZZR cos it was a comfy enough bike to go a distance and yet loney enough to make up grin like a pair of psychos.

[@freeair7292]

Maybe time to get the zzr 1100 😉

[@kam1st971]

Great to see my old bike at number one! Loved it!

[@trevormercier9074]

Just cant beat the Honda Cbr 600f or Cbr r. Ive had Tlr r 1000 and gsxr bikes and absolutely love the Cbr range

[@FatRakoon]

Aaaand the Fazer 600. The bike I went for when I could not get to like the GSX6 that I also bought. The CB400 is by far, the most fun bike I currently own, but I absolutely love the Fazer 600. Im glad they didnt knock it.

[@phillipjames2775]

The Ninja ZX series has always been she popping and flat out superior!

[@jerryx2000]

Guys please start making videos again. We need real stuff like this than the mcn crap.

[@powerofone1645]

GIXER looks the best.

[@snakeman9902]

Thundercats are awsome and fantastic value for money. Big for a 600 and can wallop a punch, comfy and fast in its day, but not in todays league. Want something big, but middle weight, cheap and reliable have the thundercat. Ive also had the bigger brother the thunderace however the thundercat tends to have a bigger following.

[@franke.9894]

Snake man p0u TXo in uh 7

[@robertparrinello1687]

Snakeman i have a 1996 thundercat great bike

[@squarielman]

I had a Thundercat for a while myself, I really liked it apart from the transmission, my mate had a fazer at the same time and we both didnt like the noisy transmission on both bikes, noisy gearbox, Did you find that a problem at all ? Apart from that it was good !

[@snakeman9902]

@@akdem4261 I never seem to have much problem with the thundercat, CBR are easier around corners as they're lighter and if it is the sport CBR they're not as tall either, all points that makes it easier to corner.. Bear in mind, the Thundercat is a tall heavy bike for a 600..

[@passionsport5759]

600 cbr r 2000 f4 the best gooooooooooooooo

[@rickaustin3077]

passion sport the f4i tops them all why they shown the old f4 I don't know cause the fuel injection model is deffo better amazing bike .

[@trevormercier9074]

Just bought one this weekend and love it already on monday.

[@motomusing8378]

My god, the Italians were so far ahead of the rest of the world style wise. Just look at that Ducati 748 (1994), still a sexy beast 21 years later. The first gen R1s took their styling cues from bikes like this, but the first R1s didn't roll off the factory floor until 4 years later.

[@vonsauerkraut]

+MotoMusing but one thing the italians can´do is reliability

[@redryder1146]

the Ducati 748 was in 2002 not 1994 and yes it is a sexy bike

[@chrissmith2114]

Unfortunately the Italians are way behind rest of world on build quality and reliability...

[@psychalogy]

10. Suzuki ZZR 600 9. Cagiva Raptor 600 8. Triumph TT 600 7. Yamaha YZF 600 6. Ducati 748 5. Yamaha FZS Fazer 600 4. Yamaha R6 3. Suzuki GSXR600 2. Honda CBR 600 1. Kawasaki ZX6R Ninja

[@milandesmet3623]

Seems. The video is so nice dream wail

[@seanhayes6097]

After the 1st lockdown i decided to go through my bucket list of iconic bikes. Now after 2 years and 10 bikes later I can safely say the top 3 ive had imo are all below 750cc and the power performance and handling that you can get nowadays from a 600 have almost made the 1000cc obsolete and unnecessary (I also own A 2010 Fz1s 1000cc & Gsxr k2).. I generally prefer driving my 600s as they are so much easier to handle around town and if I want to do some street racing...I just sold my track zx6R though picked up a really low mileage CBR 600 F3 which was the last steel frame carburettor one. .Even though its 215kg & getting a tad old now it still feels surprisingly nimble and mid range 'power band's is wild!( it's 99% original apart from the exhaust which apparently adds almost 10% extra power, I've had it reading 169mph it doesn't feel necessary to add a power commander although I have been toying with the idea although I would say the CBR at least for me is the best of them all and they're so reliable

[@uhtred7860]

A Power commander won't do jack shit to a carbureted bike, as its a fuel injection adjustment module, and if the bike doesnt have fuel injection, which the CBR600F3 doesnt, then there is no benefit.

[@seanhayes6097]

@@uhtred7860 Of course I edited post mistakenly I was talking about my F4i though i decided to leave the PC out of it anyway in favour of keeping it standard/original..it wud probably devalue it regardless..

[@uhtred7860]

@@seanhayes6097 Wish i could find a nice CBR600F4i Sport (we only got the sport model here in NZ) The best bike i ever rode was an ex Ten Kate Racing F4i Sport that a British guy had bought from them when they started racing the RR. He later emigrated to NZ around 05 and thats when i be-friended him. What a bike, it was set up perfect, and made enough power to easily keep up with GSX-R750s of the time.

[@seanhayes6097]

@@uhtred7860 Definitely, still got my Srad 750 and even the F3 model gives it a good run for its money. They handle so well regardless of the extra weight... the F3 feels lighter for some strange reason

[@edweston8044]

I did commute on a 748, but I maybe a mutant as, I'm ok with the mirrors too.

[@luisamoser8159]

Hey,$ I'm really glad to see it like embarrassed #

[@daanclemens3937]

The CBR f4 he is riding on does not have fuel injection!

[@imrightyourewrong6274]

Last of the carburettor models - only know as just picked one up and she's stonking.

[@clarkn8307]

Kawasaki ninja for the win my favorite

[@jennyoung8635]

My 97 600 F3 is pure 🔥

[@jarin12ga]

ZX6R #1!!

[@karlwalker1771]

I found the cbr a little to busy for everyday riding and ultimately disappointing compared to my 8 year old vfr 400 rr:) I sold my cbr600f 2000 model ultima light and bought a 1997 VTR1000F FIRESTORM and I have never looked back lol :) The VTR is a true power house from any revs and it feels and handles better than my old cbr 600. PS the big V TWIN propelled me in and out of corners like a DEMON:) I must admit this bike is not for the novice or the faint hearted but I WILL ADMIT THE RIDE IS INTOXICATING IN EXHAUST SOUND AND PUREPOWER, never again will this machine be made:) I ride LOUD AND PROUD:)

[@coandc]

Karl Walker I love the idea of the vtr1000 but can’t get around that terrible gas range. What’s your experience with it?

[@aneeshooooo]

what was the first bike shown in the opening credits

[@vonsauerkraut]

ZZR 600

[@Chalky.]

I actually got an ad half way through, which is the first time I've ever had on KZbin. Time to install an ad blocker me thinks.

[@blacksheepdetecting]

4 years on and we have 3-5 advert per video 😂

[@stanza77]

So this was filmed in 2003 and when Honda released the then new CBR600RR, ill bet that #1 bike wasn't #1 for long 😉

[@KingCast65]

But don't actually show the Raptor speedo and tacho just talk about them LOL. Wish we had that bike in the U.S. great track bike and pretty. Personally I like the clocks.

[@RyanMatthews777]

That number two rider looked like Richard Hammond.

[@ryanjagger7609]

It is Hammond on the cbr

[@veilsideFD3S]

HAMMOND!

[@peterkwakman7440]

Maybe it's me? But since when has bike in 9th spot been a sports bike,i loathe this crap,for years i bought bike mags,and they did the same crap,WHY? I hate bullshit. BTW all the other middleweights are great 'sportsbikes',and 2 kwaks in the mix,love it,i had a GPz600r and a ZX-6R J1 which surprised me of it's ability after riding bigger bikes for many years,love ZUKIS

[@daanaerts3257]

Hi how's it going@ Good For You. uncovered furniture What do you think./. !!

[@karlwalker1771]

Martin Child AGAIN AGAAIN shows in the bike reviews that his MAM never gave him enough love :) I am sorry Martin but not everybody can afford a Cagiva and ride to work when the weather is sunny:)

[@johnforensicman6179]

A Ducati 748 in 6th? Really? You can't ride it for more than 50 miles because it's so uncomfortable, it costs twice as much as the rest and you have to have a 2nd bike for all the times the Ducati fails to start or breaks down! No thanks. zzr600 all the way for me. It does everything and is comfy while doing it!

[@ride734]

I don't get which criteria are using to rate this bikes...

[@MrFrog_]

Biketeria.

[@dumptrump3788]

Goes from "The Triumph TT has sorted its fueling out" to "The Triumph TT has bad fueling"...erm, HAD not HAS, please pay attention, baldy guy.

[@uhtred7860]

Can't take any bike called a "Thundercat" seriously :-)) "thunder thunder thunder thunder CATS HO!!" snarf snarf.

[@mistreku]

5:12 Kabaya hahah xd p.s. R6 > CBR F3

[@Bajker4ever]

Bullshit, my Thundercat goes 180miles with 19 litres full tank with no problem

[@666wilf]

A cbr 600f at number 2? Ffs.... The gixxer is way way better than the 600f. The gsxr600 would be number 2 on my list but i'd still keep the zx6 at number 1. Im just not to keen on the colour green. I'd also have the r6 at number 3.

[@leonaerts3668]

Yo! It's interesting crack burly What's your opinion about

[@seanadamson280]

I'd rather see Dave lee Travis play Macbeth 😂

[@Menandmotors]

😂

[@dr.jillalicecooper2587]

Why compare older R6 and CBR to newest ZX-6R? In 2003 there was new ZX-6R, CBR600RR and second gen R6. I had 2004 ZX-6R and I loved it. I wish I never sold it. Great engine and in my opinion best looking supersport ever. But this comparison was just stupid LOL.

[@judehall9115]

GOOD LEADERSHIS. HEY, YO$ BELONG TICKET WHAT'S YOUR OPINION ABOUT THIS, GUYW 11

[@matthewjones9565]

How does a ZX6R get the number 1 spot? And how the fucking hell can it be ranked above the R6? In fact how does the R6 only get number 4? It's head and shoulders above the rest.

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Are you blind and deaf? There's no R6. They even say it. 6:31 YZF600 Thundercat. Which they say is a stop gap until the R6 comes out. They even say what modifications were made to get the YZF600 made, and it's just a stopgap until the R6. Clean your glasses and your ears :-)

[@Coldestaevadoit]

these guys look so sleepy

[@michael930turbo]

You need sun to wake up!! London has no sun from oct thru April! You can tell this was filmed in the wintertime

[@gerzxr838]

S1000rr all the way, f*ck these bicycles!

[@squarielman]

All the " Experts" fancy themselves as Foggy !! Biased int the word !! ?? I personally Loved my zzr 600, did everything well, Only my opinion, but then again I don"t think I"m a GP racer !!!

[@TheAceTroubleshooter]

No Katana? wtf?

[@Krezo200]

Wat

[@pinkyn0se]

"mind-numbing acceleration"? Lol. What, like boring a.f. then?

[@ig4964]

Gsxr is better cbr Who's the judges

[@poorcomboz3577]

i g no it isn’t 😅😀

[@florisnr11]

Well i had them all, and lett me tel you this. Honda. nr1 never brakes down and low cost. Yamaha.thundercat .nr2 almost just as good as a honda. Now the rest. Yamaha r6 broke down at 21.000 kilometer also weight of the bike is wrong to use normal. Kawasaki horrible. First the engine sounds if i forgot my tools in the engine. Second. The brake disk broke down, cannot handle the pressure when you use it sporty. And last bud very bad, my frame broke down there where tears in the frame. And yes i bought it new ! Suzuki nice bike bud only for small riders, they use alot of old tech. Then Ducati, stay away from this shit bike. On track day they go home with a truck becose they all brake down. Whe in the Netherlands call it the stukgaattie. 🤣 A real horrible motorcycle. Keep in mind i had all these bikes myself and new. Honda great nr1 Yamaha close nr2 The rest is worse. One thing for you motor lovers. Stay far away from the yamahw r1 first 3 years 1999 and so on. These engine,s after 30.000 kilometer can go to the scrapyard. If you use them to the max. Horrible. After 2002 they get better. Good luck .

[@user-nr5gl4yi2s]

намешали все классы , что за дурацкий обзор. Как можно спорты, найкеды и дорожники сравнивать???

[@PHILIPWATSON82]

Looking at sports bikes in 2022 is the most depressing spectacle a man can see. New Bikes Look like insects 🐜 🤦🏻‍♂️Bring back 90s styling