Top Ten Bikes 2002: Episode 11 - Tourers

In this episode of 'Top Ten Bikes', we'll be looking at the top 10 tourers, as chosen by our expert Men & Motors panel. Which one will get the much coveted number 1 spot?
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[@ThePkeys]

when i watched these guys i realised my life must be really good, sometimes i smile

[@fredflintstoner3009]

I have a 1997 ST 1100... Just rebuilt the Carburetors, Fork Seals , ALL FLUIDS , Tires Wind screen and Seat... This bike absolutely amazes me everytime I sit on it a Go... What a pleasure to own and ride.. A true MILE EATER and is the best bike ever!

[@boycejeffery8443]

nice to see the judges are so enthused about the bikes!!

[@kevmurphy7156]

I knew there was a good reason that I bought a Honda ST1100 ... my '98 model is now almost 20 years old, has just over 180,000 km on the clock, has extensively toured Australia, and has never suffered a mechanical failure.

[@EvLoutonian]

That's pretty awesome! I'm just picking up an earlier ST1100... Any specific things I should check, as it's been sitting for i think the best part of the past few years, unfortunately.. - clutch fluids? - carbs?

[@osmanlitorunu1990]

10. Moto Guzzi California 1100 9. Triumph Trophy 1200 8. Honda Deauville 650 7. Yamaha FJR1300 6. Honda Goldwing 1800 5. Triumph Sprint ST1000 4. Harley Davidson Road King 1450 3. BMW K1200LT 2. BMW R1150RT 1. Honda Pan European 1100 & 1300 You´re welcome :*

[@apexxxx10]

Am I welcome? Johnny BikeSanooK! Straight from Tropical THAILAND 🇹🇭 NOT TAIWAN!

[@larryjordan9502]

I own a 2012 Honda GoldWing and love every mile on it. It came down to the GoldWing or the BMW K1200LT. You can't go wrong with either for long distance riding. The Honda has a much lower cost of ownership, though.

[@scottjones5455]

I think this review sold me on the Honda ST1100. Have had my 92' for a year now and love every mile. Did Colorado last fall and am looking forward to returning there in the spring.

[@jeffamrine5869]

I can't believe the Concours was not listed - an amazing all around bike for touring or most anything else.

[@toddjacobs5660]

I was going to say the same thing, im on my 2 nd Conny 14 they are awsome bikes

[@WILLNEVERCONFORM]

Completely agree

[@SamP0rterBridges]

What year did this air? It might have been before the redesign, while they were still using 80s tech.

[@SamP0rterBridges]

Just saw it aired in 03. So my original theory is likely correct.

[@marcogennaro4303]

I love my Honda st1100 paneuropean , had mine for already 10 years and is by far the best bike i ever had¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

[@flakolik]

the speaker: its a great bike, with good handling and at a reasonable price lets se what our pannel has to say. pannel: its a piece of shit!

[@sokodad]

Lol

[@katmax4983]

The UK Police actually junked the Pan European for the Yamaha FJR1300 because of high speed stability issues. Just saying.

[@leesmith6783]

Exactly right a officer had a high speed wobble and come off and was killed this is why they binned it.

[@The_Touring_Jedi]

It was a wobble on ST1300 which can be sorted out. This is ST1100 in the video...one of the best Touring even today.

[@jonathandrake6613]

Pan is definitely No1 even though I have not actually owned one. I have ridden a few. A 2000 reg 750 four is is close as I got from that stable and that was my favourite owned ride out of the nearly 20 I've had. I was about to buy a deauville but at the last minute drew the same conclusion as your commentary team.

[@cattleNhay]

Best sport touring I ever had was a Hayabusa.. Different handlebars and rode comfortably for 10-12 hours, 10-15 alp passes in a day! At 10'000feet still had nice power to throttle through the twisties!

[@henryedwardsherry8956]

Absolutely Amazing!

[@rideaway3631]

I love my Honda Dullville !

[@75Azbest]

For me: 1. ST 1100/1300 2. FJR 1300 3. Goldwing 4. BMW RT 1200 5. BMW RT 1150 ...and where is Kawasaki GTR 1400??? Funny experts haha

[@wightwalker2453]

Gtr1400 wasn't around when this was filmed

[@peterc9153]

I had a Honda Deauville 700, from new, from 2009 - 2014. I strongly disagree that it is a dull bike. I loved it and I received many admiring comments and questions about it from people in car parks etc. I eventually downsized to a Honda CBR 250 R for reasons of cost and commuting practicality.

[@badkarma2137]

Well said, this bike is SO underrated, it's common sense when you want to ride safe and long at low cost !

[@FishOnTwoWheels]

Did you notice how he kept describing things about the latest ST1300 Pan European but only showing the ST1100 Pan whilst talking lol. Just as well Honda Man got this award when he did as the 1300 has come NOWHERE near the sales success and popularity of the 1100 for Honda!

[@matfejpatrusin4550]

Yeah it was pretty cringy

[@daveclemens3134]

I use to do 450 miles a day comfortably and the new fjr1300 has 6 speeds active suspension and all led corner seeing headlights with heated grips and cruise control standard...at 18,000 it's a absolute deal of a price compared to any bike on or off this list

[@davidcrook2771]

Anyone who has toured seriously knows the Goldwing is king of the road. The BMW LT is really a distant second when you consider reliability and comfort. I doubt any of the bikes mentioned will do a couple hundred thousand trouble free miles like any Goldwing will. I know of one rider that logged more than 500,000 miles on his GL1800 and it was still running fine when the owner traded it in on a new Goldwing!

[@leftvassis]

anywhere other than america sport tourers are preferred so the goldwing is king of american touring not in general

[@jennydiazvigneault5548]

This is a TOURING review but the Triumph ST sport tourer came in ahead of the worlds number one tourer - the Goldwing. I am really starting to wonder about these "experts".

[@pauldavison7105]

It's opinion. The Goldwing may be a good seller but in my opinion its too big. The video contradicts you as it states the Pan is top tourer year in year out. The Goldwing is An armchair on wheels which is great for touring but too big for anything else.

[@leftvassis]

if you live in america maybe yes,but in other continents where you ll also have to maneuver in narrow streets it handles like a boat and you cant have that,which is a pretty big reason as to why sport tourers are preferred

[@majowa83]

They are Brits. They will be biased towards Triumph. Annoying.

[@MuscleBandit]

@@majowa83 Racist! My white privilege is offended.

[@capt.danieldavidson6291]

In the late 1970's I rode a Honda Gold Wing Interstate, and it was as comfortable as a bike could possibly be. Last year I picked up a BMW R1150RT and it is anything but. Although it is a great bike with many redeeming qualities, comfort is not one of them. I ride 95% of the time on Highways in British Columbia, Canada, and I always feel that a second Foot Rest, for stretching my legs while Touring, would solve everything, but I guess they must have been concentrating on other things when they designed their "Touring" R1150RT?

[@Bleedforme-zq2uf]

The Deauville's my favourite. Beautiful bike.

[@nickelliot3679]

I owned the K1200LT and it was one of my least favorite bikes in 40 years and dozens of motorcycles owned. The tiller-like handlebars make for comfortable touring at speed, but low speed handling is like driving a front-heavy wheelbarrow. It's the only bike I had to struggle to not dump, and I'm six feet tall. If you don't mind all that, they are are very cheap on the used market.

[@james-le2rs]

I have one also and you are exactly right but I forced myself to keep riding it because it makes every other motorcycle a cinch I've dumped it twice both times standing still trying to put it on the side stand it rolled forward that was all it took and it was on its side I did manage to get it up both times broke my back though

[@wordreet]

I just can't imagine how that Harley even got on this list. Just because it looks cool, which I agree with because I like retro stuff, and has reasonable low speed handling? But it's a sack of shit as far as anything else goes.

[@buci555]

q

[@popeye5432]

Agree. Though it is retro, and good on long rides, I consider just about every Harley to be a ripoff. The V-Rod is nice, but I don't consider it a Harley-Davidson; and even H-D isn't continuing anywhere near it.

[@tangledline]

Touring. I have A sport bike, A Dual Purpose bike, A muscle bike and a 2013 Harley Road King. It's like a freaking couch on wheels. If I wanted anything else...that is why I have other bikes.

[@therussianbiker8788]

Number One to me is Honda ST1300. This is my bike and I love it.

[@marcogennaro4303]

mine is a 1100 ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡

[@rebelpride1653]

The bald guy needed to be hugged more as a child

[@joandodds7626]

William Strickland Bald guy must like......scooters or cars, cause he doesn’t like....anything?

[@cooleyballs1]

🤣🤣🤣

[@HumGuitar]

What is that cable on the right side of the front wheel on the Triumph? Looks like it would rub and eventually break after numerous left turns.

[@garystaudinger9034]

I do agree with your #1 selection. Always liked ST just a touch big (and I’m >100kg) and uncomfortably hot the Pan European seems better sized how did they solve heating problems? ST , Beemer R and Concours prototypical actual “sports” tourers seldom seen here in N. America but favourite genre for lots of us and you confused me by including a great city bike and a few actually good full size touring bikes but the HD shown is not their touring model. The HD equivalent to Gold Wing would be a Road Glide or CVO. Good post but compare apples to apples not oranges.

[@kaiserswaghelmii9361]

I was sat there not knowing if I was gonna see the PAN ST1100 or not.... And when at the number 3 spot he said "the first of 2 BMW's" I started to get worried! I was wrong to worry. That's my girl! Beautiful bikes!

[@Chris-gi9ch]

My opinion for #1 is split between the 1150RT, and the FJR1300. The FJR would obviously be cheaper to maintain.

[@007djrose]

Only problem with this video is it was made too early, before the Honda CTX1300 was launched. Problems with the CTX - Cowling fitting and side panniers not big enough for a helmet, other than that it is the most comfortable, manoeuvrable, low CoG, making it feel much lighter than it's 338kg kerb weight and it's Honda V4 engine is superb. Need a new version of this video, but I did enjoy watching it. Thanks very much

[@moshealex]

Agree, that Honda ST1300 is the best bike ever. 👍👍👍

[@TheHypnotstCollector]

Bought a 2002 BMW K1200LT, 37,000 miles, clean, dealer serviced. $2500!! About 1/4 of a HD or Goldwing. But the Weight! But Smooth as silk. weighs 100 lbs more than a HD or Goldwing!

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

9:06 Does he ride into the back of the skip lorry, stopped at the red lights?

[@elgar6743]

100% on point on the #1 pick - Honda ST1300.

[@respect9461]

Too much engine heat

[@PabloVillaronga]

Hi all , i'm about to buy a FJR 1300 2004 , 100000km , Perfect Maintenance , new chain , Brake pads, is it a good bike to start touring around Europe? I will start riding again after 20 years in Bike , how can I compare to a BMW , Ducatti , Honda , etc , all seems excellent options . Suggestions .

[@felgercarb3803]

Thats what i have said all my life. Honda got the best small, medium and big touring bikes. The small one is the 80's 500 Silverwing. The medium is the Deauville 700 and both the Pan's for the large tourers.

[@jupiter22177]

New subscriber. Finally, really honest opinions not afraid to call shit, shit.

[@plumjam]

All these blokes look like they're being treated for depression.

[@matfejpatrusin4550]

I read this at the beginning and I'm giggling through the video now :D So true :D

[@cooleyballs1]

Yessssss..🤣🤣🤣

[@Giovanni1972]

Thats why they ride; motorcycles are good anti-depressant effect/therapy, but it is addictive so when they are not riding they are prone to depression. hehe

[@toddjacobs5660]

The one needs a smack, the other one needs a hug, & the 3rd one needs a smack too 😂😂😂

[@quonston]

They’re English.

[@slashnazis]

The Honda goldwing is the bar standard for cross country touring. It has all the amenities that you could ever want in a touring motorcycle. It's the best bike ive ever ridden. Now, for a Sunday cruise around town, the Harley is by far the best choice here. It's the head turner, chick digging, mean motorcycle that you want for your ego, but it's not much better than that though. Should have been goldwing at number 1, then the BMWs (k1200 then the other) then the pan euro, then the Yamaha.

[@apexxxx10]

What’s the difference between Bar Standard and Gold Standard? Johnny born in Suomi-Finland. Resident in sunny tropical THAILAND kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6LZn6t4iJiBabc

[@jjcooter]

Goldwing at 6 by far the best touring bike ever made hands down

[@bb-ballistics1706]

Having owned Goldwings and pan Europeans. I will say that in my opinion the pan is the better bike. Much easier to through around. Lighter, faster. More agile. The only I miss from my Goldwing is the built in intercom.

[@leesmith6783]

Can't beat a Fazer 1000 as a do it all bike. Handle bar risers and a set of straight bars on her and u got the best of all worlds

[@steveclark2103]

Ever heard of a Honda SilverWing? 2 cylinder 500cc traverse mounted v-twin,1981-1982 GL500 Interstate,Same Goldwing fairing,detachable suitcases and trunk just a smaller motor.55 mpg+

[@thegolfingmusician6345]

It's pretty clear this guy has no idea what a touring bike is. Triumph Sprint ST over a Goldwing?

[@DB-qw6xq]

The Moto Guzzi California is a cruiser not a tourer! I have an FJR 1300AE, definitely needed a comfort seat though. Great performance both touring and twisting it around the Yorkshire Dales. The fuel doesn't seem to run out and I've done over 200 miles and still plenty of fuel left. Need better tyres on so I fitted Road 5s which are superb. Also had the tourer screen fitted which is great in the rain. This programme is comparing tourers with sport tourers and cruisers, no wonder the results are confused.

[@007djrose]

I'd like to see this re-run since the Honda CTX1300 came onto the market.

[@shegocrazy]

Apart from the curious selection of bikes the production values and commentary is like a 1960's infommercial.

[@numbone2945]

I've never seen such a discerning group of individuals. Wait, yes I have.

[@MegaSalainen]

Those boys know about bikes but they have never spent 8 000 miles on the road at one go. Moto Guzzi is reliable and comfortable.

[@toddjacobs5660]

The only 2 descent bikes on here were the Yamaha FJR, & Honda Goldwing, wheres the Kawasaki Concours14 ? Im on my 2nd Conny, they are excellent bikes

[@damiandevaraj9358]

Video production 2003 , maybe the concours or GTR 1400 still not out yet

[@toddjacobs5660]

Kawy Concours 14 !!!!!!!!

[@sza2562]

Triumph before goldwing? Joke...

[@STOP447.]

English rates

[@waterhouse235]

Yes, anything before folding, if you've ever ridden in Britain, tiny roads, sharp corners, and no straight line boring shite!

[@billpierce574]

I love my Triumph

[@mickemmett6828]

All three say the GoldWing is the best tourer by miles and then it gets rated at No6, how's that work then?

[@bepriceless]

Because it's heavy as hell and handles like a van. It's fine when you're on the road going straight and don't have to stop, but bikes have to ride through town too.

[@mickemmett6828]

@@bepriceless The article is about touting, not commuting through towns. The handling is brilliant, lost count of the times I lost sports bikes on the twisties when I had mine.

[@raygifford872]

I owned a wing and an FJR1300. FJR was by far my favorite bike. Sport bike handling, super bike power. Sure, the wing has comfort for miles but it’s too easy to drag the expensive bits. I rode the hell out of my FJR and never ever dragged anything more than my toes.

[@p.istaker8862]

What did I learn from this? Satisfying my must be considered first and foremost

[@seeingeyegod]

Late to the party.. but I think it's amusing that this is a top 10 list but about the first three the reviewers are like "this absolutely sucks"

[@rondilliner9424]

AFFIRMATION: My 2004 ST1300A (purchased pre-owned with

[@tonkool4736]

My mates and I rode Honda's ST1100 (I had one) and their 1300. Believe it or not...I find the 1100 better. Especially in it's roadholding near topspeed. Later I bought myself two Yamaha FJR 1300's. To my personal opinion: they were superior to the Honda's. I would give the Yamaha FJR1300 a 10 and the ST1100 a 9. In the blink of an eye these bikes would transport you effortlessly to southern-France.

[@slimdudeDJC]

Man, are UK dwellers honest!! No BS whatsoever, cut straight to the chase!!!

[@timmykrantz168]

The FJR rated below the Beemer with all the rear diff troubles. The tourer have to keep a spare rear with them. I have 87k on my feej. One fella in our group has 330k on his 2004.

[@Rayk76]

For anyone criticising the presenters you do realise that particular show is many years old and provided many of us a much needed biking programme on TV and I'm dam glad I'd it, so give them a break...

[@paulbutler75]

If you can ride you can ride if you can't you become a motorcycle reviewer! ! I've had a Dullvill for a while and I've been able to get my knee down and when I filter I leave power rangers behind

[@jennydiazvigneault5548]

They scored the Moto Guzzi low because they said it looks ugly. That says nothing. For touring I want to know if its reliable, comfortable, offers good weather protection, has a good and reliable dealer network, is affordable, has power to pass, has long range, and gets good mileage. Thats a pretty simple review and did not give much info. Very very subjective.

[@Danol123]

Joseph Howard but it’s a cruiser though. Had literally nothing to do with Touring. If you want a Motoguzzi i suggest you go for their flying fortress. The Motoguzzi Flying Fortress is more touring than any of the bikes here except the Goldwing.

[@Team-fabulous]

@@Danol123 what!!!!?? The California comes with top box and panniers... What more does a tourer need?!

[@kkiwi54]

@@Team-fabulous Wind/weather protection?

[@popeye5432]

They got it right with the Honda Pan European. Next would be the other Honda, the Goldwing, or either LT or RT BMW for number 2. I like Moto Guzzi, just not that one.

[@Tax2Me]

I agree with your #1 & 2. Can care less about the rest

[@Bleedforme-zq2uf]

The correct phrase is 'couldn't care less' meaning you have reached the maximum point of not caring.

[@kasperkjrsgaard1447]

My pick would be the Moto Guzzi California. It’s comfy and reliable.

[@mk3supraman]

I like the list, I don't agree with all the placements, but the "experts" are idiots, should have picked a better group, they come off as way toooo bias

[@PanRider939]

Why when quoting ST1300 spec show the ST1100?

[@micaKTM1290]

Because the ST1300 was a new model when this was made, probably didn't have any video of it.

[@richardrichard5409]

No maxi scooters... Burgervan, Lead Wing, 850 'prilia....if you want touring comfort n convenience, can't be beat.

[@PumpKing96]

Because they are no motorcycles.

[@danfranklin1957]

Why did they show a ST1100 for the number one spot when they were talking about the ST1300 the whole time? They showed a red one at the end. Lovely bike, i'm shopping around for one.

[@The_Touring_Jedi]

Because ST1100 had no issues and stability is better on higher speeds. ST1300 had some issues like wobble and heat issues. I had both but ST1100 wins the day even after so many years. One more thing to consider if going on tour through whole Europe...nobody would like to steal ST1100.😂ST1300 or new RT are pretty liked among thiefs.

[@jamesmcfarland2648]

Where the hell is the Concours 14?

[@SR71BBFLYER]

For my money I’ll keep my FJR1300 over the others that beat it out here. If I’m sport touring (which is what I do) then the Goldwing too much tourer., the Sprint too much sport., the Harley? Forget about cornering., the K1200LT? another Goldwing.., the RT underpowered. The ST1300 has the goods but just a bit too bland and slightly underpowered. And the FJR looks much better especially when you take the bags off. I’d ride either of these bikes but I’d PREFER the FJR.

[@Giovanni1972]

"And the FJR looks much better especially when you take the bags off." Unless you have those bag/crash guards installed (pretty much a must for heavy bikes). I agree with you about the FJR. I love mine (2014 model).

[@oeksnadr]

Why do you think r1150rt is under powered and what alse you can add about it? Thanks

[@jimmythesaxman]

I agree I own a GL 1800 as well as a K 1200 LT. I just bought an 2004 FJR 1300 this week. Rode it home up the California coast from Oceanside to Venice. Wow. Instant love. It really does have it all. Comfort incredible speed and power precise handling. Love how easily removable the bags are and this bike only has 12,000 miles on it. You can’t go wrong with Yamaha. But as far as the big tourers go I much prefer the BMW K1200LT over the gold wing which feels like a couch on wheels. BMW heated grips seat ABS brakes handling overall comfort and performance weather protection are all superior to the Honda at least for me. I’m sure cost of Honda ownership is lower. For some that is not the bottom line. They are all great bikes

[@kenmclennan341]

Would have been useful to know the criteria by which each bike was judged. Were the percentages a measure of how well each met the criteria, or was it just a number pluck and a journo's opinion?

[@robertmacdonald7216]

I think you missed a big part of this review of your top 10 reliability if you included that none of the European bikes would have made it anywhere near number 8. Even Beamers would not get up there reliability and cost of service would have put them way back in the field.

[@fred_e]

it was kind of funny watching the Harley almost scrapping its belly

[@fred_e]

especially as the narrator was calling it the king of the road

[@garystaudinger9034]

What’s with the cheap shot at Jersey? Seems odd coming from a chap who comes from another little island. Saw the article about sports tourers as well. Here they’d be considered detuned sports bikes your touring bikes would be considered sport tourers

[@victorkenny1503]

My injectors is not getting far I have a k 1200 RS 2000 model BMW you can squirt gas in the carburetors excuse me in the throttle body and it will crank and run and do that fuel Runs Out there's fuel all the way to the injectors but they're not pulsating to give the engine fuel can you help me out with this problem I appreciate it my name is Victor I live in Bossier Louisiana

[@matthewjones9565]

For the life of me I can't figure out how the Goldwing isn't number one.

[@nicholasthompson8351]

I am guessing you have not driven in Europe where roads are twisty, sklnny and gas is not cheap.. After years of Wing use, I understand that the ST and BMW give you more of the athletic feel that European and I personal[y like. If you have wide open roads,.. which go on for ever, the Wing is your steed. I’d you have varying conditions, tighter turns, and enjoy the sport feel,. I think they nailed the review..

[@matthewjones9565]

@@nicholasthompson8351 I'm English so I drive/ride in Europe every day. Each to their own I suppose, but I much prefer the Goldwing. Personal preference I suppose.

[@davidsage6575]

Very old video. The pan European was dropped by all emergency services as it handles so bad the Police called it dangerous in a side wind. The FJR1300 is now used internationally by all emergency services with perhaps the exception of Germany where they take two wheels off the car and still call it a BMW

[@Giovanni1972]

Germany recently had placed their order for FJR's as well. :) I own a 2014 FJR and love it. I'm scared of the power though, and have only started to test it out. Feels like being on a fighter jet, and very smooth.

[@fabieneldridge5463]

I have a Road King I'm selling as I sick of the Dealership attitude of over charging and that I'm rich an don't care mentality. They charged me for fixing the rear tire Valve that they forgot to change when they changed it. $100.00 to put a new one in an left stranded out of town for an in cost 1 60 . 00 . I've never been on the road and not been helped out on the road. By Harley Davidson hello Honda or BMW ....it me sick Holy attitude. . Harley Davidson dealerships lost me not the bike I will advise never by one.The bike is beautiful and with dual exhaust it sound great. But a motorcycle is only as good as the service by the Dealership so don't walk Run away or carry a motorcycle shop with you and Rob a couple of banks to support a G READY salesman !!!!!!-'-----------Once twice gone ! I've owned lots of motorcycles and have only been riding 50 years, what do I know.

[@popeye5432]

Simple solution. Don't deal with dealers. Deal with riders. A motorcycle is only as good as the one who owns it. No one needs a new Harley. They made a brief mistake with the Evolution engine, quickly realized their error, and went back to the standard H(undreds)-D(ollars) corporate mindset.

[@TheRealMarxz]

2003 but looking more like "Young Ones" era production values - Deauville stylish and the Cali ugly.... they must be putting lead in the water in the UK.... And even back then 2003 I would have put the FJR at 1st, St1300 2nd, St1100 3rd, Goldwing 4th (owned all but the wing still own the st1300) but here in Australia touring generally starts at 500km a day so there's a regional bias to my choices

[@jpsholland]

Harley has that classic style where no other machine can come to. Bullshit, the truth is, Harley spend millions on rights, they even have rights on the sound. Harley survived because of the second world war, the Hells Angels and the 4 big Japanese brands who pulled Harley financially out of the shit more then once. The Japanse brands have more respect for Harley then Harley riders have for them. Harley rider have to bow for every Japanse bike on the road, their beloved brand is still on the road thanks to the Japanese. If you want a real American Dream on 2 wheels, buy an Indian. They where far superior to Harley. But also far more expensive. Before the Harley fanboys start ranting and hating: i don't hate Harley, but i see it as it is. No more, no less. But is do hate that myth making around this brand. A quality product does not need that, should not want that.

[@stardustdreamfactory1947]

From 2003.

[@eroom2087]

Honda 💯

[@lSirCumference]

K1600 not in list??

[@Danol123]

Let’s take a moments silence for those dumb enough to pick a BMW or Triumph over Honda or Yamaha. The Harley is fair enough, but today it’s quite obvious that the best tourer currently is the Indian Roadmaster Elite, wich is basically a Goldwing with better performance than any other Touring, Cruiser, Muscle, and even Street bikes or naked bikes. Also it looks so classic yet so modern. And that one tops the Goldwing. And it’s funny how they only had 4 actuall touring bikes. Both Hondas and both BMWs wich nobody likes.

[@bempey]

Maybe Indian isn't sold in England? Or wasn't out when this video was made, back in 2013?

[@PhantomU3P]

why would you include a 650cc in a top ten touring bikes review???

[@bempey]

I think the biggest problem with this ranking is the title. It should be "sport tourers" because they ranked them based on performance and touring. After EACH GUY saying that the Gold Wing is the number one touring bike, they don't even rank it in the top 5! ??? Again, change the title to include "sport-bike aspirations" and then the ranking makes more sense. BTW: My BMW riding friends would all take a high-mileage boxer over the K-series for reliability and low-cost of ownership. BMW-R in the top 3 is not a surprise. BMW-K in the top-5 is a surprise. Just my 2 cents.

[@firemanst13]

Where is BMW's K1600 GTL?

[@StevelKlatt]

Connie??

[@danielhopley4885]

Do any of these guys like motorbikes in general?

[@scb0421]

How did harley even make this list?? They have never made a motorcycle that was dependable enough to go around the block let alone cross country.

[@Brough1111]

The BMW's have left riders broke down with rear drive problems, the ST1300 weaves in cross wind,, BMW is expensive to maintain, the Harley's are up to 107 c,i. And will have increased performance, the best bike for touring two up is the Goldwing,

[@jpsholland]

The Pan at number one? The Dutch police was happy to get rid of them and turn back to BMW. The reasons: poor handeling, poor performance when cold, vibrations and bad handling in speeds above 180 km, less reliable and higher maintenance cost compare to the BMW K-1100, K-1200 and R-1150. But the Pan is a lot cheaper to buy. A other thing for the police is that BMW makes "p" versions of their bikes. The p stands for Polizei, german for police. This bike have more power and more powerfull electrics and are easy to build in your police equipment, or BMW does that for you. The Pan European is not a police bike so had to adapted for this duty which bring extra costs which maken him still cheaper to buy then the BMW, but not when you calculate the maintenance cost in the average 4 years of police service. At the end it turn out BMW was cheaper, more reliable and better fitted for the job as police motorcycle.

[@mikebreen2890]

P version bikes don't have more power because they don't need more power. Electrics are upgraded though.

[@billstreb1044]

BMW being cheaper to maintain than a Honda? That contradicts everything I have ever heard, including testimony from my BMW bike owning friends. The guy I bought my ST 1300 from walked into a BMW dealership with cash in hand to buy a 1200LT. After hearing what routine maintenance would cost, he walked out, and bought the ST 1300 and never had any issues. Regarding handling issues? I have been riding motorcycles for 50 years. I have had my 1300 way faster than is ever needed and it is rock solid. Speedo accuracy is horrible though. I will give you that.

[@MIKEGREL]

Why isn't the kawasaki concours on this list.... thats crazy!!!!

[@chrislongstaff1863]

Learned nothing about the bikes and more about the personal taste of the testers. And none of them seemed to be keen on touring bikes

[@tomnorris1734]

Why is buying a new bike so hard? And worse, its made harder by these 'experts' When I was in my 20's I had a gsx1400. Now I'm 30 and have arthritic knees and a daughter so I want a sporty sports tourer. I thought I wanted a triumph sprint, now I think I should just buy some new slippers and become depressed so I can be an 'expert'

[@stevebutton3367]

not sure about your judgement

[@PhantomU3P]

why would you include naked bikes in a touring shootout review??

[@armandopanza6775]

Número uno gold wind