DC HATES And Disrespects Martian Manhunter

[@jknetwork6211]

“DC disrespects Martian manhunter.” DC writers and Warner Bros: “who?”

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

😂😂EXACTLY 😂😂 According to Superman this dude is the most powerful being on the planet yet he doesn't even have an animated film? GTFOH but Kite-Man does!!!!

[@justincartledge111]

@@jknetwork6211 and no green lantern on the team to

[@Brotherofthe4thCompany]

God, I hate Warner Bros

[@7th_DimensionalCinema]

I laughed way too hard at this shit😂😂

[@MistahJay7]

Its so fucked up how he is forgotten when he is a literally core member of the League.

[@NewUltraHero]

To why Cyborg replaced Martian Manhunter as one of the founding members of the Justice League is beyond me

[@jknetwork6211]

Idk about anyone else but Cyborg will always be a founding member of the teen titans to me. Maybe it wasn’t that way in the comics but regardless I love his chemistry with them way more than with the justice league

[@disgruntleddev]

I had a headache just remembering this, like cyborg is literally a teen titans member and a founding teen titan imo. Like why do ma boy Jon like that

[@jknetwork6211]

@@disgruntleddev plus if their reason was to have a tech guy that’s Batman’s job. Cyborg in the animated movies and injustice game is mostly used for boom tubes anyways not anything tech heavy like iron man

[@thatskao]

Can only have one Black member

[@nicholasaugello2534]

Cyborg doesn't even HAVE to be a founding member of the JLA I just thought he was a later addition that became popular enough to join the MAIN crew of the JLA.

[@ays8975]

Shoutout to Martian Manhunter, representing the shy kind hearted kids

[@guardiantree8879]

For real, it’s nice to have a quiet person being depicted as also extremely kind.

[@ays8975]

@@guardiantree8879 Favorite kind of people!!

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

Facts. Another character like that who also doesnt get much love but was given some grace in the 2000s is Red Tornado. I'm suprised they never gave hin and job a converstaion

[@toxicsnails]

Putting Cyborg on JL ruined Cyborg's personality. He's kinda a nothing character now. Swapping MM with Cyborg did a great disservice to both characters.

[@damired]

Honestly Cyborg works perfectly with Teen Titans while having no chemistry on JL

[@TheeOK1]

​@@damiredbeen sayin and thinkin this for years. Maybe he has some chemistry with Shazam or they tried to put somethin there

[@theepoopydoodoo]

100% agree. Cyborg was so lively, charismatic and a natural leader, plus his relationship with Beast Boy is such a fantastic contrast. We got NONE of that in the New 52

[@louisvictor3473]

@@theepoopydoodoo New 52 wasn't a creative decision, and anyone who tells you it was is either drinking the kool-aid, selling it to you, or doing both. It was a souless management move (much more heavy handed than Crisis on Infinite Earths before it). No surprise, a lot of the stories and characters became souless in it too, and a lot of it stayed entirely that way throughout until they reversed it.

[@NightRunner2099]

The fact that he's in Death Of Superman to only read Doomsday's mind and be conveniently thrown into a gas station that explodes is funny to me. Like, the dude is on the level of Superman. Wtf?

[@laughslapproductions4690]

He could have turned intangible and phased through before he hit the gas station

[@NightRunner2099]

@@laughslapproductions4690 or like what he did in Man Of Tomorrow, only creating the illusion that he was taken out by Doomsday and then attack him later when the beast least expected.

[@ShawnKuhn-hv4qz]

It doesn't matter to DC. Technically there are other heroes just as powerful and uet better equipped to deal with doomsday e.g. manhunter and wonder woman but dc wont let that happen

[@laughslapproductions4690]

@ShawnKuhn-hv4qz they always nerf manhunter badly, especially his phasing powers which he never utilizes properly. If he was smart about it he'd never get hit.

[@SuperladCK94]

​@@ShawnKuhn-hv4qz to be fair...the best way for Diana to deal with Doomsday is....not something you want to be on the receiving end of....which is to say...the bracelets being removed and one punch.

[@NHTube1]

DC having Cyborg be a founding league member is like if Marvel rebooted the Avengers and had Cyclops be a founding member of The Avengers with him having no relation to the X men

[@amanzeihedioha]

In another reality, Scott Summers has just been declared too old for the local orphanage and he starts thinking about his life. While thinking of finding a job to feed himself so he can attend a high school, he suddenly runs into a kid named Rick Jones and behind him is the famous, or infamous, jade giant, The Incredible Hulk.

[@emperorsean1]

Well Disney didn't go with the original team of avengers though. The ot characters were wasp ant man, iron man, hulk, Hawkeye, Thor and then captain America when they discovered him in ice. Then back panther and Vision.

[@maxordman4100]

Personally I would say that it’s more like taking Colossus and making him an avenger than cyclops but I respect your opinion.

[@FlexStyleZ]

No it’s nothing alike.

[@NHTube1]

@@FlexStyleZ how not?

[@realsanmer]

MM is like a fusion of Batman's quiet and stoic demeanor with Superman's alien heritage and kindness, he's my favorite JL member

[@dukeheavens9990]

Batman please 😂😂😂

[@SuperladCK94]

​​@@dukeheavens9990 J'onn was first introduced in Bruce's book though....in Detective No. 225

[@dukeheavens9990]

@@SuperladCK94 don't care he isn't batman

[@SuperladCK94]

@@dukeheavens9990 he's the kitchen sink of superheroes...literally...that includes Batman's brains and being a detective.

[@dukeheavens9990]

@@SuperladCK94 he is not batman bro stop saying shit

[@superstarultra28]

The fact that BOOSTER GOLD is getting the spotlight before him in the DCU is ridiculous.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

I mean he is the hero nobody knows

[@jacal8428]

Dude love Booster Gold. The fact they put Martian Manhunter there is garbage in there. Please don't.

[@ashleysmith5427]

People really overlook Martian Manhunter, even in the comics. He has telepathy, shapeshifting, intangibility, invisibility, etc! He’s literally got everyone’s favorite hero’s powers rolled in one!

[@kory7698]

I actually feel like this is why he's not around much. Op characters are extremely hard to write and even in a lot of comics where he's around he's still sidelined

[@ashleysmith5427]

@@kory7698 I definitely see your point. I think there are ways to incorporate him into stories though, like in Justice League Doom. He has a very exploitable weakness (fire) and I feel like the right writer could really do something with him. I hope James Gunn finds a way to incorporate him into his new universe.

[@jacal8428]

The best. Only fire defeats him and that a psychological thing.

[@THESAUXCESTUDIOS]

You would be surprised how many people actually don't even know. J'onn is a founding member of the Justice leauge 💀. It's honestly crazy to me, considering he's easily in the top 5 in the leauge (possibly top 5 in the DC as a whole). Definitely deserves more recognition.

[@supersonical8770]

I just find it funny for me that I discovered him in Lego Batman 2 and just instantly liked him.

[@dukeheavens9990]

​@@supersonical8770 😂😂😂

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

9:25 As a matter of fact, I have an idea for one. It's basically DC's version of the BBC Sherlock TV Show but this time all the BS deduction skills that the MC has makes sense cuz he's an alien. The premise is that he's less of a Sam Spade and more of an OG Sherlock Holmes/Psyhcic Columbo. He's the guy the police turn to when they're having trouble, and he outsources his detective skills as a Private Investigator. You'd have sprinkles of the wider DC World (maybe some JL members get cameos or entire episodes where they're the focus) but it's primarily a mystery show about Martian Manhunter solving side mysteries of the week while the main core mystery would be him trying to figure out what happened to the Martian Civilization after he got teleported to the future. Scenes of him investigating the hidden ruins of Mars would be interspersed with him investigating regular crimes (I imagine that he fixed the teleporter, but can't figure out how to convert it into a time machine). Ultimately, it becomes more and more clear what happened to the Martians, and the truth would be related to a plot twist that shocks J'Onn to his core. The series finale would be something akin to "Secret Origins" from the JLAS, albeit much more closer to its War of the Worlds inspiration but pretty much the same with all the Justice League members uniting to help Martian Manhunter fight the threat of the Martian Invasion.

[@thismandoesntexist7814]

I don't like how after the new 52 Martian Manhunter is always replaced with Cyborg, more than anything because Cyborg in the Justice League is usually just a computer, they usually take away his personality, charisma and 90% of the interactions with the League is "Cyborg hack this" or "Cyborg do this", Cyborg is 1000 times better as Teen Titan, come on Justice League already has Red Tornado as the robot guy, another one is not necessary. It also makes me angry because Martian Manhunter and Red Tornado are characters that fit much more with the League, but noooo, put Cyborg in to be the living laptop.

[@soldierofgod7412]

Yeah that’s some BS cyborg is more of a teen titans member… Martian is an OG

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Replacing him with Cyborg was sad. Replacing him with Cyborg and making Cyborg the guy who guards the base or the Justice League's car was even worse. Yeah, J'onn was basically their phone during the Morrison days, but that meant at least he could be there through the whole thing. And if he was knocked out, that was actually a detriment. If you drive your car to the battle, and your car gets broken during the battle, the most you're gonna get is "Oh no. Now I have to walk home."

[@VunderGuy]

Out here disrespecting logistics so bad as if a phone or a car aren't hugely important. It's like western media calling Russia a gas station like that's supposed to be an insult. I'm like, bro, you know how fast things go down hill without gas stations?

[@Mendradoes]

The fact that maritian manhunter doesn't have any project meanwhile batman is going to have aztec movie is emberassing.

[@mattyt3625]

Honestly fuck batman at this point. He's overused, overrated and obnoxious. Really they need to get off batman's d and show off these other characters. It's annoying af

[@dukeheavens9990]

​@@mattyt3625 Facts bro , batman has over 80 projects be it tv shows,games, cartoons or movies

[@JTAEKOOK4EVRR]

Don't blame the character blame DC comics I love batman but I also love DC comics as a whole. It seems like the higher ups don't understand their characters because Martian Manhunter is not just the only character being under utilized there are dozens of characters both villains and heroes that DC is neglecting which is honestly so annoying and exhausting I've been speaking out about this for years and DC doesn't listen at all and it's honestly ridiculous

[@studio96films65]

If anyone should be the Nick Fury of the DC Universe it should be Martian Manhunter, not Amanda Waller.

[@kimeraclan3135]

Dude, J'onn would be all like: "I know who you are Superma/Batman, as well as few others." Superman/Batman: "Others?" J'onn: "Five others to be more precise. It's a whole UNIVERSE out their after all! Can't get them all in, for now."

[@studio96films65]

@@kimeraclan3135what if in each post credit scene we see that and also Lex Luthor recruiting the Legion of Doom.

[@kimeraclan3135]

@@studio96films65 Except he'd call it a society, a Secret Society. At least that idea worked with Joss Wheadon's run on the Justice League. Lex recruiting other villains would be great!

[@Alf-gm7tf]

The fact that kite man got a show before Martian man hunter is criminal.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I still can't believe they replaced him with Cyborg. Never made sense to me. That was so dumb!

[@jknetwork6211]

Idk about anyone else but Cyborg will always be a founding member of the teen titans to me. Maybe it wasn’t that way in the comics but regardless I love his chemistry with them way more than with the justice league

[@VVguy1]

But they are racist against green people.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@jknetwork6211 agreed, he's far more interesting and more fun with the Teen Titans than the Justice League.

[@NisarKhan-jm1uh]

​@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Yeah, when he is a Justice league member he is mostly relagated to the tech wiz support guy while when he is a member of the teen titans he has more personality than just being the techwiz support guy.

[@prosperotorres7965]

@@jknetwork6211Cyborg is a founder of “The New” Teen Titans from the Bronze Age of Comics but he & his peers (Starfire, Beast Boy, Raven) aren’t the original titans. That’d be the original versions of Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Speedy & Wonder Girl from the Silver Age

[@Koolers20]

I genuinely don’t understand why Martian Manhunter has been so ignored during the past 20 years. It really feels weird seeing the Justice League without him.

[@truthspreader1996]

Because he's another overpowered person on a team of super overpowered people.

[@gaphdd1412]

20 years?, what about justice league and justice league unlimited?

[@kory7698]

​@@gaphdd1412 That was 20 years ago lol

[@Gamebuilder2000]

​@@truthspreader1996And? If everyone's overpowered it doesn't really matter then it's not like they're all going to be in Story anyway

[@truthspreader1996]

@@Gamebuilder2000 Well.....everyone isn't overpower and the authors are trying to make everyone fit in the story.

[@lugit36]

Dc PLEASE utilize my boy Martian manhunter😭🙏

[@domd5989]

It's bizarre that we're getting more Harley Quinn and Waller content over MM and other notable heroes.

[@reidcunningham5906]

I don't think anyone will top Carl Lumbry as Martian Manhunter from the DCAU. He brings a somewhat distant yet soft sounding voice that I feel really fits the character.

[@elmuchacho3379]

Can you imagine when lois and martha see each other after clark is revived, lois is thanking martha for her inspiring speech, and martha is just like “🤨”

[@just_some_greek_dude]

"So when are you going to do a martian manhunter movie?" DC: "who?"

[@SarcasticEnchilada]

I don’t know why, but I always love when Martian Manhunter shows up, he always seems super stoic and wise, very emotionally intelligent, nurturing, innocent, and compassionate, kind of a grandfather figure for the group, that also happens to have godlike powers. Such an underrated superhero

[@cluelesskidstupiddreams9367]

Cyborg was waaaay cooler with The Teen Titans. He even was considered the "backbone" of the group. I hope James Gunn sends him back to the Titans, or at least with Starfire, Beast Boy and Raven.

[@howsthissound]

I agree. Teen Titans Cyborg SPECIFICALLY is in my top 2 for DC superheroes.

[@daryltor7608]

Captain Atom exploding in the corner

[@ParallaxMotive]

A cool thing about Martian Manhunter learning culture through tv, is that is how I and many other people have learned a new language. I learned English, German and Polish through this and it made me like J'onn a lot.

[@SuperladCK94]

I wonder if he mastered English in one of the ways most foreign people and children learn it through television depending on if they ever wanted to change his arrival date to keep up with DC's constant bouncing of whenever the Silver Age starts for their "Now". I mean he seems like the guy who would actually buy a vowel.

[@stevensteviepryde5888]

James Gunn posted a tweet of a pack of Chocos; Martian Manhunter's favorite cookies so I think it's a safe bet James Gunn has interest in including him and doing him justice.

[@milkiassamuel780]

I swear Martian Manhunter us probably the most UNDERRATED member of the Justice League. He is not just a founding member of the Justice League but also the heart and soul of the Justice League. I especially fell in love with the character from watching the Justice League and Justice League Unlimited DCAU show's. Jonn is such a multi faceted and complex character that deserves so much more recognition and I truly believe the character deserves either a limited series or short film about the character because there is so much interesting and introspective stories to tell with the character and how he views Earth and his relationship with other superheroes like Superman, as they were both immigrants from the stars bu Jonn sadly had to grasp the tragedy of how he lost his people. I actually have this pitch for Martain Manhunter animated series set as a homage to classic 1930/40's noir detective stories and sci fi films. My pitch has Jonn established as a detective trying to solve an overarching story about a series of murders that are completely untraceable because the murder is secretly another Martian leading to a deeper look into Martain heritage and lore about Jonn's people. I also have another plot idea for this animated series pitch is that Jonn after arriving on Earth, he would accidentally cause the death of an innocent man names John Jones, and I thought it would be a compelling idea to have Martian Manhunter promise the man in his dieing breath that he'd look after his family by impersonating that man for a couple years essentially stealing his life and raising a new family much like the one he lost on Mars. I think this would be a pretty interesting story to tell with Martian Manhunter and lead to alot of moral and internal conflicts especially with how Jonn as an alien must feel guilty impersonating and honouring the life of another man as his dieing wish. What so you think do you like my idea?

[@IncoisaRadio87]

Honestly Martian Manhunter getting superseded by Cyborg has hurt *both* of them as characters. Martian Manhunter loses one of his most important roles by no longer being a part of the Justice League, causing DC to forget about him ENTIRELY, and Cyborg effectively loses the chance to be a part of the Teen Titans, where he has a much better and more iconic role. I don't know what stick DC had up their ass when they dropped Martian Manhunter out but they should've taken it out much sooner, now it seems like they don't even know who Martian Manhunter IS.

[@StareachValcin]

I do agree that Martian Manhunter has not been given his proper respect as of late, and he's so interesting. In many ways, he is the amalgamation of Superman and Batman. Martian Manhunter has had a similar status to Superman by how they are both the supposed last of their respective alien races, but J'onn Jonzz lived his life in Martian culture. J'onn's similarity with Batman is that they both watched their families and would become detectives, but in J'onn's case, he watched his family die as an adult, either due to war or due to a virus that attacked martians psychologically. Martian Manhunter definitely had enough of an interesting story to warrant his own movie, but he just wasn't utilized as much. Some of the best uses of Martian Manhunter are the DCAU, some animated DC movies (Justice League new frontier, Justice League crisis on two earths, Superman Man of tomorrow, etc), and the animated series the Batman. Even Smallville and the CW Supergirl series made good use of Martian Manhunter, even though in Smallville, he was underutilized. The Martian Manhunter was just completely wasted in the snyderverse. The Martian Manhunter definitely deserves more respect.

[@YMan-zo5kg]

Even in the injustice games which are some of the biggest for a full dc roster barely include him. The first game he joins as dlc with no part in the story, and the second game he has zero inclusions or even a kameo appearance.

[@midnighteye2737]

Martian Manhunter is such wasted potential, he could travel anywhere in the world and fit in. How are they not understanding how useful that is??

[@Avarn388]

John Ostrander's run on Martian Manhunter made me really appreciate John in a way outside the Justice League animated series. I guess the big problem with John is that within the comics he always had a lot of superpowers which came off as just Superman but a martian. Yes, I love that his weakness is fire. That's a lot more believable than an irradiated space rock and told a lot of great stories about John's own trauma and his race being destroyed by it. But I think had the comics gone the Justice League animated series route where John's powers were clearly psychic and shapeshifting I think you could have told some great stories. Because I could picture a TV series or even a movie where John escapes to earth in the 1950s and assumes the identity of a detective and in turn has to navigate Earth. He comes to see Earth as his own home and has to stop an enemy who once destroyed Mars. Plus, with John being a shapeshifter, it makes it much easier to recast John because he can be anyone. Also, I'd try to get Carl Lumbry involved because he defined John for me as a character.

[@noelogbeide7135]

I hate that fire is his weakness it should be scrapped

[@rupeniugavule3479]

He can overcome his weakness to fire because fire is a psychological weakness, not a physical one. But if he overcomes it he'll transform into a burning white martians. ​@@noelogbeide7135

[@amiraldowairi5397]

Martian Manhunter carried the Justice League International. Hopefully James Gunn can do this character justice!

[@Holiidayyyyy]

Definitely the most empathetic and compassionate member of the league cant have the league without him

[@JacobyJ56]

I think one of the things that would help Martian Manhunter is if he had an established villain. I remember when that one bad guy showed up in Justice League Doom I was like who??!!

[@SuperladCK94]

The villain is his brother, but also in his Pre-Crisis stories he has several villains some of which were seen in Young Justice and one had a loose adaptation on JLAS. J'onn's rogues are Rh'es E'da (think of him as Martian Lex) Commander Blanx (Martian Sarge Steele) B'rett (Martian Mafia member) B'enn B'urnzz (Martian Mafia member) The Human Flame Marco Xavier of a cartel in Brazil who he defeated by posing as...amongst many other mafia members and renegade martians. Post-Crisis Martian Maneater/Malefic/Mala'fa'ak (one of J'onn's brothers besides T'omm J'onzz who wanted to be Martian Kidhunter pre-crisis, but J'onn said no because he didn't want their parents to worry too much...an actual good reason for no sidekick back then, Superman kinda had a few odd reasons though instead of just saying "well I'd like you to do your own thing" at first.) J'onn also has more weaknesses than just fire...he hates microwave-based lasers and the chemical Z-6...all of which scramble his telepathy and invisibility.

[@guardiantree8879]

@@SuperladCK94I think borrowing Braniac or Ares could lead to interesting stories for him. Maxima & Vandal Savage would also be great additions.

[@SuperladCK94]

@@guardiantree8879 and why are we resorting to using Clark, Diana and Carter's villains? This would only emphasize him being a knockoff.

[@guardiantree8879]

@@SuperladCK94Purely for the story. Ares God of War/ Mars vs a man of peace from Mars? I think it could be an interesting team up of WW & MM. Similarly Braniac would be greedy of the knowledge J’onn holds about Martians. Savage I kinda see more of a league villain these days. Maxima because she’s gone kinda unused for a while. I’m just after a good story for J’onn. Aside from his brother, his rogues need a revamp.

[@SuperladCK94]

@@guardiantree8879 ok as a WW team-up yeah that might work. Also last time we saw Maxima she's allied with the Super-fam as Superwoman (Lana)'s equivalent to Oracle. Brainiac? Maybe he would be, but let's get J'onn's own baddies a shot first. I also think the better idea of J'onn's weakness in books should be chocolate, not fire or Z6 given how much he likes the stuff especially after Billy introduced him to Oreos. This would make it extremely difficult to work on a case, not because his stomach can't handle it, but because he gets as bonkers over it as Daphne Blake does...making it hard for him to focus on using his abilities...and it's a whole lot more readily available than a match. Infact the ideal candies to avoid feeding J'onn? Anything made by the company Mars...and especially if the candy has an intergalactic name such as Milky Ways and Mars Bars...J'onn would go "cuckcoo for coco-puffs" over those two...and then if he looks inside a children's sci-fi book or software game...he might find out he's the favorite superhero of Ralphie Tennelli.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Martian Manhunter is really awesome and really deserves way more love more then ever, heck personally for me nothing would make me happier but to see him back on the justice league and not be on another team which isn't interesting in my opinion.

[@The-X-Territory]

Martian Manhunter should always be a part of the Justice League. To me, he’s always felt like an important figure. He’s not the one you tend to think about as much as the others, but he’s there for a reason. Cyborg fits the Titans more anyway. The way I’d write it is that Cyborg would eventually leave the Titans and join the League in the future. But using him as a replacement for J’onn is a disrespect to both characters.

[@FaroshsFang11]

I love J'onn like he's so sweet, he was always one of my favorites back when I watched JL/JLU. His calm compassion and cool shapeshifting and intangible abilities drew me instantly to him. The episode where he spends Christmas with Clark and the crossover Static episode lives rent free in my head. It really sucks how both him and Aquaman get so slighted when it comes to being founding members of the Justice League. I really hope they can get proper interpretations together someday, they're two of my favorite og members 🧍🏽

[@VidoeGamesForEver]

Martian Manhunter and Vision. Both are wise and noble characters with so much potential are instead pushed to the background.

[@DzustComics]

The structure of this video was AMAZING! You should sneak in more comic recommendations into your videos like this!

[@thunderingwatervideos5199]

J’onn is my favorite superhero of all time. So the fact he gets shafted so often hurts my soul

[@robertjones5765]

DC hates and disrespect all their classic characters.

[@ahmadmose2403]

DC has a terrible track record of nerfing the characters that they built up over years. Idk which case is worse Nightwing or MMH

[@Garthmoonstar]

I always liked his relationship with wonder woman in the old Justice league show

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

Real

[@zyairrbissoon]

I think the “problem” with Martian Manhunter and most other characters they try to add to the Justice League like Cyborg and Hawkgirl when getting adapted is what I call 7th member syndrome, as in they are relatively popular characters but don’t have their own set of notable side characters, villains, family (characters with similar powers) or notable stories, granted this could be fixed with a solid ongoing solo series.

[@amied7361]

Martian manhunter fans when suicide squad gets 2 movie,anime, game (which doesn’t even mention him),2 spin off and He hasn’t gotten a single solo project

[@janstanek1942]

He was in Supergirl recently and that is it

[@Kalel2.0]

He wasnt all that bad on that show either. He was one of the better aspects of that show and David Harewood did a good job at really portraying J'onns stoic,soft,mature and friendly side

[@kevinaguirreherrera4469]

​@@Kalel2.0That, and he's a good father figure to Kara, Alex, and Winn. Even a grandad to Alex’s foster daughter Esme.

[@tvirus9369]

I actually liked him in supergirl

[@GenerationWest]

Martian Manhunter and Miss Martian are still related in Young Justice, since J'onn sister is M'Gann's mother, and her father is a White Martian, and their kids either came out Green or White. Making the CW versions outliers with them being... romantic. Back on topic, by making Cyborg a founding member of the JL, he hasn't been given that much of big presence in many stories, in comics and in media, which in retrospect, hurts both him and Martian Manhunter, instead of just one character. Talk about a backfire.

[@CB-gv4yb]

Not gonna lie, Martian Manhunter and Miss Martian romance was WEIRD 🤢

[@ishandegrandi2543]

Petition for Warner Bros. and DC to make a Martian Manhunter Movie 👇🏼

[@eamonndeane587]

I say make it a Neo Noire Sci Fi Dectective thriller directed by James McTeigue.

[@aetheralLitannia]

It’s definitely going to flop

[@TheeOK1]

Yeah nah, theyd have no idea what to do with MM

[@ishandegrandi2543]

@@aetheralLitannia probably, because not a lot of people understand Martian Manhunter as a character, but if they find the right person, they could make a masterpiece.

[@chaddfrancis2179]

Even his name is 🔥🔥🔥.Martian Manhunter.

[@Skaramine]

I hate that the reason they replaced J'onn with Victor was that they replaced John Stewart with pasty Jordan so DC needed a new "token. " Thus, I hate the producers with their backhanded racism.

[@buccaneercat]

So many people were giving Zack Snyder, and DC, hell for going with Martian Manhunter instead of John Stewart at the end of ZSJL, but I was honestly so relieved. The Lanterns are ridiculously cool, but my boy J’onn J’onzz deserves to be adapted… it’s just a shame we never got to see more of what he would have been like on the big screen… I seriously hope James Gunn and Peter Safran bring him back into their DCU by the time we get our next Justice League film!

[@William_Oswald1]

Oh, I'm sorry, Martian Manhunter.

[@nicholasrodinos4701]

The CW really feels like it's written by teenagers who watch any two random characters interact and scream "NOW KISS!"

[@Laughing_Individual]

J'onn and M'gann are actually related in YJ. M'gann's Mom is J'onn's younger sister.

[@FiestaTX17]

My GOAT fr. He’s one of the most disrespected and under appreciated characters in modern times. Personally I would like to see Superman be the reason he comes into public eye and then have them bond as being both aliens foreign to Earth. Manhunter is the heart of the team and allows for very emotional and sentimental moments to occur. It would also be really interesting to see the civil rights movement tied into his background as maybe he arrived during the 1960s and faced heavy prejudice. Manhunter wouldn’t want to see humans go through the same thing that happened on his planet and rightfully he would stand up for those facing violence.

[@biguy617]

Who would have Cyborg fought? Mr Fixit or Brother Blood or the Hive, he needs the Titans to defeat them.

[@amanzeihedioha]

They made him join Stormwatch and act so freaking sus in the new 52...the disrespect is amazing sometimes

[@ayanahmed5281]

I think the reason why they didn't use martian manhunter is because he is very hard and costly to adapt because of his shape shifting powers and natural features

[@kaior1]

Thats bs

[@ayanahmed5281]

True but studios right now don't want to spend lots of money on unproven IP

[@YMan-zo5kg]

Well studios love to use a lot of cgi and I’m sure they could have done that with him

[@ayanahmed5281]

@@YMan-zo5kg the issue is too much CGI looks bad for example quantum mania and green lanterns suit

[@TeamReArise]

You got Green lantern and Beast Boy that’s cap

[@Oddash-lz6kw]

Shout-out to Carl Lumbly for his work voice acting J'onn in the DCAU. He gave a J'onn a stoic but vulnerable persona- a person who's lost everything, so he keeps his heart hidden and doesn't want to see bad things happen to anyone else. As the series goes on, his tone shifts and he becomes kinder and warmer, showing how humanity's affected him.

[@TheScienceEnthusiast]

I'm so happy you made a video on MM. The way DC does MM is so dirty! Even in the animated movies, like bro's power set is so ridiculous!!!!

[@mayurasilva8634]

we knoooowww how M'gann was powerful and useful to her team, and seeing Manhunter just get bodied feels wrong 🙄

[@LovethedemonWolf2.0]

For real , them disrespecting him in the death of Superman movie is / was nasty work right there

[@maxordman4100]

Great job on this one! Oh man I absolutely hate everything they did with Martian Manhunter in the supergirl show except one episode from season 4 where he first set up his detective agency. I have to say that was a good episode but otherwise I cringed throughout most of the series and I really hated the Megann ship too! No joke! Definitely in this case I agree with your assessment even more so than some other videos you’ve posted. Great job! Keep up the good work!

[@moistwindow6094]

I miss martian manhunter being s founding member, or really just him in general, he was so great, he's always the heart of the group, he was really cool, he chose to be a black guy, he was my favorite founding member growing up

[@ZQPPS]

I got no issue with Cyborg but the way they was making him replace MM when he’s like the 3rd most powerful member on the team was crazy it was even crazier when in the DCAMU they replaced not only him but Aquaman also with Cyborg and Shazam 😭😭😭

[@Kalel2.0]

I love Cyborg but man hes not all that interesting as a member of the League and hes at his best when hes a Titan

[@YMan-zo5kg]

Tbh aquaman doesn’t feel like a great fit for the justice league. He’s only really threatening in the sea and he’s supposed to be ruling Atlantis. It would make sense that he is off on his own and infrequently collaborates with the justice league similar to black panther in marvel.

[@ZQPPS]

@@YMan-zo5kg I’m not really that verse in marvel like DC but I think it could be like Black Panther in AvengersEMH where he’s still the King he just has somebody like Mera to be the #2 ruler while he’s with the JL

[@prime7213]

Scott Snyder’s justice league run had some problems a few years back, but one thing I loved was the focus it gave to Martian Manhunter. Some of the best material for the character happened in that run.

[@dynaguy3]

I think Smallville did him justice. Just would’ve liked more screen time. And the Man of Tomorrow animated movie also did a good job with him

[@vortechx7176]

i'm glad you brought up the way he died in injustice because i had the same problem with Captain Atom (who you should also do a video on) dying the way he did. Both Martian Manhunter and Captain Atom suffer from being written by people who don't understand how Cap's powers work or how MM's fire weakness works

[@Da_rambling_skeleton]

Love ur content man, I’ve been waiting for this video. Dc doesn’t treat MM well and even started retconning him from the justice league I needed someone too talk about it

[@kimeraclan3135]

Manhunter unfortunately adds to the superhero movie troupe of "This way I get more face time!", because he's a shape-shifter. And yes, I also agree how he gets less attention. Also Martian Manhunter works great for a representation of people of color when contrasted with Superman.

[@ellugerdelacruz2555]

9:25 As a matter of fact, I have an idea for one. It's basically DC's version of the BBC Sherlock TV Show but this time all the BS deduction skills that the MC has makes sense cuz he's an alien. The premise is that he's less of a Sam Spade and more of an OG Sherlock Holmes/Psyhcic Columbo. He's the guy the police turn to when they're having trouble, and he outsources his detective skills as a Private Investigator. You'd have sprinkles of the wider DC World (maybe some JL members get cameos or entire episodes where they're the focus) but it's primarily a mystery show about Martian Manhunter solving side mysteries of the week while the main core mystery would be him trying to figure out what happened to the Martian Civilization after he got teleported to the future. Scenes of him investigating the hidden ruins of Mars would be interspersed with him investigating regular crimes (I imagine that he fixed the teleporter, but can't figure out how to convert it into a time machine). Ultimately, it becomes more and more clear what happened to the Martians, and the truth would be related to a plot twist that shocks J'Onn to his core. The series finale would be something akin to "Secret Origins" from the JLAS, albeit much more closer to its War of the Worlds inspiration but pretty much the same with all the Justice League members uniting to help Martian Manhunter fight the threat of the Martian Invasion.

[@BraydenLaver]

It's kinda a shame that the only media that wasn't comics or the Justice League show was the web show Death Battle that took him seriously

[@BusterBarnes]

Hopefully he can at the very least get a solo animated project in the DCU 🙏

[@bionicleanime]

When DC decided to force Cyborg into not just the JL but everywhere else, I saw it for exactly that: forced. They saw Ironman was gaining popularity super fast at Marvel and wanted their own popular high tech hero in the spotlight. Instead of finding a lesser known DC hero that could fulfill that goal, they instead shoved Cyborg into that position because Teen Titans was popular. Martian Manhunter didn't deserve this.

[@shawnsouth327]

Put some respect on J’onn dammit

[@MistahJay7]

Wow I made a comment about Martian Manhunter on your last video and you done make a video about the goat himself Outside of Batman, Supes and WW. John Jones Aka the Martian Man Hunter has always been my favorite character that never gets any love and is the most underutilized member in DC. The POTENTIAL with this character.......Its sad to see. Loved his character so much in the animated show and even there he would get the short end of the stick at times.

[@user_miike]

without animated shows like young justice, justice league, and jl unlimited i would not know who tf manhunter was.

[@alexferrana3979]

Great video. MM is very underrated and his weakness to fire is oftentimes is very exaggerated.

[@Unknown-360x]

He also has a badass name why they gotta do my boy dirty😭

[@batsaubattler3200]

I like that the atom is always small in every panel I've seen him in lol 😂😂bros just chilling on Batman's shoulder like its normal lol

[@heathmiller9533]

Probably one of your best videos ever made, gotten to the point he’s not even recognized as a founding member of the justice league

[@boarragnarok6798]

Martain Manhunter is my favourite superhero, I've got a bit of a collection going bevause that's how much I like him and I couldn't agree more. He's a very versatile character, they could fit a multitude of plots and genres, you could do a such a good psychological horror with martain manhunter but nobody wants to do fun ideas.

[@shinigami268]

Martian Manhunter is underrated as a character. Love Cyborg but he is a better member of The Teen Titans than a member of The League, much less q founding member. I don't know who made that decision in corporate but that person needs to go back to making coffee runs.

[@robimakisama]

Look at the outfits they put him in they never believed in Martian manhunter.

[@Ulice_Stovtop]

I love Manhunter so much and he deserves better!

[@lareinedafrique4215]

King Piccolo with his drsgon evolution a$$ 😂😂😂😂 OOOO MMMM GEEEE

[@shenron1954]

Jonzz NEEDS a movie in the DCU, just show him struggling between his detective work while still being indercover as an alien, and trying to understand how society on Earth is working while grieving his own planet idk, maybe he could be on a case that led to a secret Earth invasion planned by undercover White Martians it could be so cool. Lot's of "casual" people don't even know who tf Martian Manhunter IS, bro needs some respect back

[@eamonndeane587]

Zack Snyder pushing the characterisation of Superman as an aloof Alien outsider that still cares about the humans around him always felt to me like a better fit for Martian Manhunter as a character.

[@theanimekid7839]

He always has been a favorite of mine, but the disrespect he's been getting is just annoying. He deserves better!

[@Dino-Mite718]

I’m not a massive Martian manhunter guy but what really made me like him was his role in the new frontier. I really loved his side plot on the comic.

[@TheMartianMancumpster]

Ive always found the manhunter very sensous, just a cool handsome alien protecting earth and stuff

[@Gibbb803]

Martian Manhunter is my favorite character in DC. I just wish they would give him the credit he deserves. Hes so powerful that Superman is afraid to fight him. He has unmatched healing, strength similar to superman's, can shapeshift, change his density, and has martian vision just to name a few of his abilities. His mental powers are also unmatched. He just needs his moment to shine and show how powerful he really is

[@caballo3739]

Bro is the Tien of the DC universe

[@thundercharged1]

Wait you're actually so right for this 😮

[@UniverseChronology]

To be fair to DC or WB for not giving Martian Manhunter solo films or solo shows, he's never really been a solo character, at least not to me. Like, he has had solo stories but his most important role as a vital member to the Justice League (fun fact, the reason DC chose Martian Manhunter was because they didn't want to overexpose their bigger characters, so J'onn was the Superman stand-in while Green Arrow was the Batman stand-in), the glue holding that group together in most iterations, one of the most powerful characters on the team in nearly every lineup, and plays the role of a wise father figure for younger generations. His main solo stories of importance were him waiting for the martians to come for him before he learned he was the last of his race and the introduction of his main villain Ma'alefa'ak. Besides that, he might as well just be a Justice League character, a lot of his character development occurred in the Justice League. It was when he joined the League that he first became a public hero and it was as a member of the League that we saw the character evolve from more distant and alien to more human (and then devolve because DC has no idea what character arcs are). While it's certainly not impossible to give J'onn his own solo film or show, he certainly works much better in the League. Maybe this is bias and someone who has actually read a Martian Manhunter comic could correct me (I've only read some of the classic stories and the John Ostrander series). If I were to bring Martian Manhunter into film, it would probably be as a major Justice League member only without any solos and his story could take inspiration from what they did with him the DCAU, the last surviving martian after his race was killed by White Martians, becomes a founding member of the Justice League and later coordinates their missions as he grows more and more familiar with Earth. Maybe he can have a very limited supporting cast in those films like King Faraday from New Frontier. Maybe later introduce M'gann and maybe you can give him a solo film then focusing on the relationship between him and a child of the race that destroyed his, showing his forgiveness and selflessness, maybe then we can see more about martian culture and civilization. Why DC chose to basically remove him from the founding lineup in 2011 is beyond me. There's two ideas I can think of, either they just wanted at least one of the founders to not be white or someone at DC REALLY liked Cyborg. If it's the former, I feel like they could've just used John Stewart instead of Hal Jordan considering John was probably a more popular version of the Green Lantern at the time for non-comic readers with the DCAU. Also, side note, J'onn and M'gann were related in Young Justice, we just didn't know how until Season 4. The way Young Justice portrays Mars is vastly different from the most common depiction of Mars in DC. Unlike in the comics or the DCAU, the Green Martians were not exterminated by the White Martians, instead Martian society is still thriving with Green and White sharing the planet but white martians being treated as lesser than green martians by the general population. This leads to Ma'alefa'ak's (reimagined as the brother of M'gann and being a white martian) attempt to exterminate the Green Martians which is a plan that is foiled by M'gann, Connor, and Gar. M'gann is the daughter of J'ann M'orzz, the younger green martian sister of J'onn J'onzz. She married M'aatt M'orzz who is a white martian, a relationship that is frowned upon on Mars. While most of their 29 children are Green Martians, M'gann and M'comm (Ma'alefa'ak) were born as white martians. Thus, M'gann is J'onn's biological niece in Young Justice, but typically not in mainstream comics.

[@TheShockVox]

9:04 M’gann and J’onn are related in the show, he’s still her uncle. Greg Weisman confirmed this. She’s just also a white Martian. Her mother is a green Martian, and J’onn’s sister if I remember right, in that continuity

[@danieldishon688]

I think WB just saw Martian Manhunter as a chance to have one mandatory black member on the team and no one complain about the race swap cause he could just as easily shape-shifting into a black man as much as a white one cause in reality he's green. So in adaptations where they lack a black hero on the core roster because they are using Hal Jordan instead of John Stewart, or their are few iconic black characters they want to give the CW permission to use, Manhuntter gets chosen every time. But he's not their to be John Jonz the Martian, he's there to be black superman which is why you get wierd scenes where he's in his green body but showing his black human face as if he took off a mask. Cyborg being added to the team ment to those writers they didn't need a fake black hero anymore, they were just determined to lean on their one really well known iconic one instead. So Martian Manhunter got sidelined. "But they could have two black characters, theirs no rule against it". Logically yes, but these writers are not governed by logic. An essential part of being a diverse representative is that they are minorities. Putting multiple members on the team representing the minority takes away the minority status on screen because they aren't really alone anymore. So they rarely add more than two.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

hmmm

[@YMan-zo5kg]

Or they could have just made cyborg Hal Jordan and Martian manhunter all apart of the core justice league and had 8 founding members including Superman Batman aquaman Wonder Woman and flash. Don’t see how that would have been controversial. Even add hawk girl back in as a 9th founding member.

[@danieldishon688]

@YMan-zo5kg what are you talking about? I was talking why Manhunter has disappeared from modern founding rosters of the team from WBs obvious perspective. And your fan pitching a founding roster that doesn't exist in that combination. Cyborg replaced John Jonz in the New 52 and Snyderverse founding roster, he wasn't added beside him. And Hal, John Stewart, and Hawkgirl who has nothing to do with this aren't in the Snyder films at all, and only Hal is in the New 52 roster. As for "controversy", I don't know where you read me call anything controversial. I was talking about why WB does what they did, not what fans think about all that. They benched Manhunter because the execs came to see him as the black rep roster filler, and Cyborg was upgraded in their eyes to that role. As for what I think, I think introducing Cyborg in the movies on the adult team and skipping his history with the Teen Titans which he's a pillar of is be as silly as introducing Star Girl, Dr Fate, Alan Scott, Hourman, and Sandman on the Justice Leauge first and not the JSA which they lift up and define. And agree with this video it's dumb treating Manhunters alien face like a superhero mask he takes off when relaxing at home, but if it weren't for dumb things like that I might be inclined to say his human forms race swap is an example of a good race swap in comics. And I think the unspoken "no more than 2 black characters" rule WB seems to put on DC is really dumb and needs to go. And I think because WB sees these characters as pure checkboxes to fill, their approach to using them is often shallow and unsatisfying because they never ask what made these characters work and shine in the first place. I don't know if that thought is 'controversial' for you or if I share it with many others, it's just what I think.

[@YMan-zo5kg]

@@danieldishon688 I don’t see how you could be baffled at my message. I’m just saying there was no harm in having a bigger core group of justice league members in further installments. I’m then saying I don’t see how bigger numbers of members could have been seen as controversial at the time.

[@sarahthomas8670]

I love manhunter. I love his personality and his powers. He such an interesting character. When I was younger I got so hype any time he would use his power on be in the screeen. I think they replace him with cyborg bc maybe they thought he clash with superman imo. Cyborg is always teen titans guy for me. I even read the comics and it’s different. Ik cyborg with the judt once league in some comics but he fits so well with teens. It’s so sad how we barely get to see manhunter even though he is literally the main front of the justice league .

[@jeancaron9325]

Martian Manhunter need better villains.

[@insupportofjunhado]

Martian Manhunter was in Justice League Action, and you approve of Justice League Action. I know Cartoon Network didn't, but still.