DC HATES And Disrespects The Flash

[@SilverCenturion2k6]

This channel made me realize how a production company/Comics underutilize a lot of incredible characters

[@gfilmer7150]

Then overutilize the ones that don’t need to be

[@limbojones9202]

Well they do whatever brings them that bag & most money is brought in by people who actually don’t enjoy comics. That’s why Batman is everywhere. At this point he is more of a pop cultural icon than a superhero.

[@dfeditz]

​@@limbojones9202 true

[@imafolklorestan]

especially the DC trinity, like man, they're not just their A tier heroes, they've been the whole world's most known and beloved heroes since ever, and the only thing that's been done for them in the past years is the tarnishing of their reputation.

[@58monz]

@@gfilmer7150like harley and the suicide squad

[@brodiecorum6304]

Petition for your next DC Hates and Disrespects video to be on Martian Manhunter. Poor guy got kicked out of being a founding member of the League in favour of Cyborg, a literal Teen Titan.

[@Kaylosteez]

I guess they wanted to show color instead of having a black person be green

[@Dobbythecat123]

@@Kaylosteez😭💀

[@fm1668]

They already had race swapped Martian Manhunter from white to black in his human form too. So it makes even less sense.

[@helixsol7171]

​@@fm1668 Wait John Jones used to be white? I thought J'onn's human form was always black

[@TimeToGoGreen]

​@@fm1668It doesn't matter if he's white or black🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@bigdoubleu117]

It's a literal crime that they had Jeffrey Dean Morgan casted as Thomas Wayne... And he never got to play Flashpoint Batman... WTF WB!?

[@PedroLucas-mg5je]

Even Jeff himself siad back in the day that he was interested in playing Flashpoint Batman. DUDE, why did they wasted this???!!!

[@tamasfenyo8450]

Are you serious ,they had the guy whom played Nagen (come to think of it i can't imagine a more fit cast for that version of Batman) and went naah "CUT" 🤦‍♂

[@MisterDriskul]

Flash: "I'm the Fastest Man Alive." Also Flash when he fails to catch/stop a random bad guy: "I'm just not fast enough."

[@N3wman2992]

It’s amazing how (specifically) in the CW show, there’s always someone faster than the fastest man alive

[@Yourfat247]

@@N3wman2992it’s always mfs who don’t have super speed too. He couldn’t even catch a MOTORBIKE

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@user-to4zl8wf2n the show was such an embarrassment

[@Achieme]

Bro villains can go around the corner and when flash goes around the corner they disappear. How TF can you run at the speed of light and lose them

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@Achieme all of them have teleportation powers lol

[@_moegreen5770]

“We are the Flash” is the reason why this show died. Barry wasn’t even The Flash half the time because they tried to juggle so many characters

[@CagedPhoenixThe1st]

I personally don't really see the issue with it. When you can run as fast as him, you'd need a squad like his to better understand his abilities.

[@_moegreen5770]

@@CagedPhoenixThe1st The issue is people were tuning in to see Barry Allen run around and stop crime as the Flash. Half of the time Barry wasn’t even the main character of the episodes

[@CagedPhoenixThe1st]

@@_moegreen5770 for a show to center around one character for an hour long block, is kinda tough. I think it's nice when it's showcased, that you can't do everything on your own.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

​@@_moegreen5770 i didnt care about that I cared about Barry turning into a jock and then not doing his job as a csi

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

reminds me of Chris Rock's routine about the first black president, the first lady says "no WE president" hahaha

[@Korra228]

I swear WB just hates DC characters, especially in the DCEU. Diana is a r@pist in WW84, Aquaman got drunk and fell into a dirty puddle in Flash, Batman was humiliated in JL, Superman is a violent and cold asshole in BvS.

[@rennythespaceguy7285]

I genuinely think Polka dot man and Peacemaker might be the only characters who came out of the DCEU in a better state than before they were introduced

[@Korra228]

@@rennythespaceguy7285 facts

[@Nedum05]

Since when was Diana a r@pist

[@superfan-gfu]

Wtf ? Who the hell diana r#ped ? I don't remember nothing from that shitty movie

[@joenives2622]

That Superman comment is a straight up lie

[@Knicks176]

Zoom gave Barry crippling backshots then dragged him on a walk of shame to his homies. Bro was moving straight DEVIOUS

[@TheRealGuusMcgoose]

bro did a world tour with his body 😂

[@MitchMighty253]

Have him that meek mill treatment

[@JaylaCole0]

@MitchMighty253 that was dirty😂

[@Silver_Spectre]

It’s crazy to me how Flash’s main villains are a guy with a ice gun, and his buddy with a flamethrower yet every recent version only uses flash as the continuity maguffin

[@Darwin-sama]

It’s not a ice gun

[@Silver_Spectre]

@@Darwin-sama what is it then?

[@megashockx]

​@@Silver_Spectreit's a cold gun, it stops speedsters

[@HangMrH]

Flash discovered earth 2 in golden age, created new 52, stopped crisis in infinite earth, outrun death of 30 years. He was made for big crossover event only. His own stories were always bad, let's not sugarcoat it. He has his moments in Justice League and he ia the protagonist who saved the day in every crisis event, that's it

[@MandatoryFruit]

Not an ice gun, a cold gun. Significantly more OP than a freeze gun surprisingly.

[@marquiseemthembuu997]

"Fastest man alive. What a fucking joke." Homelander

[@Electrifize]

-🐐

[@baki484]

That whole scene was violation 😂

[@turtleanton6539]

😅

[@powergoss0562]

Hey a little known fact a KZbinr named Godzilla Mendoza went on Twitter and asked a bunch of people if Captain boomerang would do anything like that and somebody showed a comic scene where flash had died and one of the other villains tried to take off his mask and boomerang yells at him to respect the dead

[@rennythespaceguy7285]

Depends on the writer, the Boomerang from the original Suicide Squad run would absolutely do that. Very often he's characterised as someone with no moral scruples who unfortunately always manages to survive. I think a scene like what they did could work if they played more into that idea of the whole team hating Boomerang throughout the story but being stuck with him, that'd require some actual dynamic between the team though and we all know that's not and never was an option here

[@santiagodiaz3358]

What did he do in that scene? I didn't get it

[@pineslines]

@@santiagodiaz3358he unzipped his pants and was going to piss on flash’s body. And according to the other members, he has a very big….you know what

[@pan1c974]

Nah most versions of Digger wouldn't be above doing that to Flash

[@turtleanton6539]

Yeh😮

[@xanderg.1070]

One of the problems I see with how dc use Barry Allen is that they seem to only use him/have a major or leading role whenever the story is about multiverse or rebooting the timeline. Outside of the CW show (for the most part) Barry seems to be the star whenever DC needs to reboot their universe. With flashpoint being the biggest example of this. And the funny thing about it is, Flashpoint was originally never meant to be the key for dc to reboot into the New52. It was supposed to be a simple Flash story, with having Barry coming to terms with the fact his origins and world around him have changed since he was dead, because those who made not know, up until Crisis on Infinite Earths, Barry’s mom was still alive, the change with having Reverse Flash killing his mother wasn’t part of Barry’s origin until 2009 by Geoff Johns, when Barry was brought back. And thing is, if you ignore it for being a way to reboot the DC universe, Flashpoint is a good flash story, but the problem is that DC only sees it as an escape goat to reboot their universe.

[@pedanticat9479]

I hate how the only story that's ever being told with the Flash is either something involving the multiverse or timetravel with him also being used as an easy universe reboot button. Seriously, I would kill for a Flash movie that would actually showcase Barry or Wally or whoever actually protecting Central City!

[@gfilmer7150]

Imagine something like Heat or Point Break where Flash is going after The Rogues who are a simple set of bank robbers

[@DemonicRemption]

@pedanticcat9479 But having Flash protect Central City is boring. Ever since Avengers, everything has to have over the top bombastic steaks, unless you're Batman apparently.

[@ronathan02]

@@DemonicRemption just sounds like you haven’t read much Flash comics

[@DemonicRemption]

@@ronathan02 While it is true that I haven't read a Flash comic since I was like 4, I was being sarcastic and poking fun as executive mandates. Because that's how it feels, as every superhero movie after Avengers has to have some huge bombastic threat because executives think that simple low level steaks are boring. When in reality as it is now, it'd be a breath of fresh air.

[@pianist150]

For real. Just a dude that runs fast, stopping a guy that can jump out of mirrors. That’s all I ask

[@superstarultra28]

The Flash death in the Injustice movie REALLY pissed me off, but what made it worse is that his death didn't affect the film at all. No one even mentioned him after he died. You could've cut out his death and the film would've been practically the same. WTF, writers?

[@WhiteDarkness3113]

Dosen't help the fact that SUPERMANS FRIENDS AND HAD A MAJOR PART IN THE PREQUAL STORY THAT TEIR ADAPTING.

[@charleskelley8267]

You gotta do one for my boy Martian Manhunter. He's been sitting high and dry for the longest time. There's so much lore and so many villains with untapped potential that can/could be talked about.

[@Yourfat247]

He’s been teased TWICE in Zack’s universe but we got nothing still

[@zzirfamo24]

He was in supergirl and I know you guys hate CW but he was pretty enjoyable in that

[@donkae657]

damn i havent seen him in so long i had to remember what he even looked like🤦🏽‍♂️😂😂

[@MyZ001]

@@zzirfamo24 Nah, the problem with that is that he was in Supergirl... I ain't shitting on the show, Im saying he need his own shit. I get the live action movies cause they cost so much, but even the animated movies keep focusing on teh same shit... Batman, Superman, JL. There's 52 Superman (animated) movies, 187 Batman movies, and like 2 GL movies, 2 WW movies, and even the Flash movie is actually a JL movie. Hell, Justice League Dark has more movies than most of the actual JL solo member movies outside of the big three. Also, I guess they do step out a little bit. I dunno, I just want a Hawkgirl & Hawkman movie, a Manhunter movie, a proper Flash movie, and an Aquaman movie that makes him look like a badass like he did in the JL 2000s cartoon. Sorry, minirant over

[@popgoesthewheasel3039]

Nah Zoom was different levels of COLD. In early CW flash imagine getting your ass beat and then your OP parades your body around to the city you're supposed to protect as a "IS THIS YOUR KING" moment absolute savagery😂

[@MisterDriskul]

Too bad season 9 ruined him and the other speedsters. Just Awful

[@violetlavi2207]

LITERALLY they never had a villain as menacing as him again (and boy did they try 😂 especially in s3)

[@MisterDriskul]

@@violetlavi2207 Savitar got killed by Iris lol

[@violetlavi2207]

@@MisterDriskul the more embarrassing thing is that he’s a SPEEDSTER and died to a GUNSHOT 😂 Iris getting to do it was poetic, but the METHOD? Please, how is he not the laughingstock of the show’s villain roster

[@MisterDriskul]

@@violetlavi2207 CW writing always disappoint or doesn't make sense

[@alexanderwinn9407]

Honestly, you only need one thing to keep a speedster from being too OP: don't give them instantaneous reaction time. Let them run fast and fight fast, but make them stop from time to time in order to look around and reevaluate things. He blurs down the road, but then has to stop for a heartbeat at the intersection to turn and take off in a new direction. He can outrun bullets, but only if he sees the gun being aimed and can react to it. It keeps the excitement and thrill of speed, but stops them from being able to just win every fight instantly.

[@theblessedone.6251]

Flash in the comics: can bend the laws of physics utilizing the speed force in almost every way, can create solid constructs with energy, leader of the flash family, very intelligent, can predict outcome in a matter of seconds. Flash in films: completely nerfed, not fast enough, makes stupid decisions, never uses his scientific knowledge, takes advice from non speedsters like cisco, iris, Caitlin joe etc and hardly has any team ups with the flash family. Warner bros definitely has something against the flash💯

[@Dragon_Moth]

Ok, let's just say it, DC hates everyone who isn't Batman, Harley and maybe John Constantine

[@malikjackson9337]

They shot Batman in face and continue to write him as a psychopath. They don't like him that much.

[@Artemus973]

Tbh Batman gets disrespected and misrepresented a lot too. They just put him in everything cause they know he makes the most money

[@malikjackson9337]

@@Artemus973 It pisses me off because he legit is one of the greatest characters in fiction. Modern writers these days butcher the character for the sake of social commentary and it's not even good commentary. Like why should I care about the criminals Batman kicks the shit out of when they SA and murder people on the reg. Especially when Gotham has such deep levels of political corruption that even with Bruce Wayne's deep pockets, it seems that it is a Herculean effort to even make a minor impact on crime. He also still manages to have compassion for even his greatest enemies. He is such an awesome hero with terrible writers.

[@karimdavis7065]

This clearly shows that you don't read comics and you don't know what you're talking about

[@Dragon_Moth]

@@karimdavis7065 Thing is, i do read comics, even the obscure shit. I meant in adaptations

[@usmansubhani7482]

Quicksilver running faster than bullets and redirecting them. Also quicksilver: Gets gunned down by regular bullets with no caveat.

[@ikengaspirit3063]

Not regular bullets, tho. Those Jets shoot faster bullets than normal guns.

[@dankerbell]

did he redirect bullets in aou

[@nicholasrodinos4701]

18:48 What's even dumber about this scene is that Justice League Vs Teen Titans established that Flash learned the Infinite Mass Punch. What was stopping him from IM Uppercutting Doomsday into the exosphere?

[@jonathanathor117]

We need more captain atom, plastic man, meta metamorpho, creeper, fire, ice, vixen, the question, martian manhunter, mr terrific, booster gold, star girl, blue beetle and all the other underutilized characters that you have like mr majestic, the authority, icon, hardware and static. We need more of them. I can't be the only fan. Please DC hire me as your CEO I can make this right. It's not hard to be a business man.

[@jonathanathor117]

@InevitableOption-ic2vx well you know what i'm all in for that. We don't need to introduce brand new characters. What we need to bring existing characters that don't often get the spot light, have some recognition.

[@FakeArts-nj8oj]

Did you forget John Constantine??

[@Warlord-dc5un]

Honestly I've grown tired of the overuse of the Flashpoint or just any time/alternate universe hopping from Flash media/entertainment. There's been enough of it and it's getting really old, it's not the only interesting Flash story in existence. How is it that Flash is the only hero that never has a movie where he's actually facing a villain from his rogues gallery except Reverse Flash? Spider-man, Batman, Superman, Hulk, Iron man, Thor, Captain America... all the names I've dropped had a movie with one of their villains whilst only really focusing on the hero vs villain. With the Reverse Flash he gets tied with the Flashpoint and taunts Barry.

[@jonlam855]

I grew up on the Justice League Animated show and Flash was literally the first superhero I was exposed to and there was shockingly low amount of Flash in media ever since the show turned into JLU. There's just something profoundly cool about a person that is fast enough to catch bullets and practically stop time. I really wish there's more Flash and its a shame that DC just defaults to the Trinity whenever they hit a rut

[@mayotango1317]

That Flash is a joke, a insult to the Mark Waid Flash.

[@jonlam855]

@@mayotango1317 Which Flash? JLU Flash?

[@mayotango1317]

@@jonlam855 Yes, is a clown. The Mark Waid Flash is better.

[@jonlam855]

@@mayotango1317 Yeah, even the writers admitted that they wrote Wally off a lot of episodes bc they didn't know how to write a speedster, they also nerfed his speed a lot. I wouldn't necessarily say that he's a clown tho his personality itself tends to fluctuate depending on the episode

[@Minetic]

I’ve always hated how the Flash was fast enough to dodge or catch bullets but if he tripped for 2 secs a random ass person would always get away.

[@EclipseHedgehog]

I was introduced to flash thanks to superman TAS, he wore red (my favorite color) with the lightning bolt symbol on his chest and was as fast/faster than superman. I was hooked. mained him in justice league task force fighting game on the super nintendo, loved Wally as him in justice league tas, enjoyed him in mk vs dc, injustice 1 and 2, i was so disappointed when i heard that one flash game by bottle rocket got canceled, and i think it was all downhill for him from there....

[@vividlantern8854]

Downhill for everyone not named or associated with B-Man.

[@wafflebroz]

“The Great Brain Robbery” in JL:TAS shows off Flash’s powers and demeanor so well. When Luthor is making Flash’s body create all manner of unstable events and someone comments on their surprise and fear Green Lantern speaks about how that is why Flash doesn’t do it

[@mayotango1317]

Sadly that Flash is a bad adaptation.

[@EclipseHedgehog]

@@mayotango1317 which one

[@mayotango1317]

@@EclipseHedgehog The animated JLU. Is so cringe compared to the Mark Waid Wally West.

[@marveler8994]

It's been said before, but the amount of praise the writers gave to wonder woman while disrespecting the rest of the Justice league is so weird. This is our first time meeting this version of DIana and she gets more love than Batman, who we actually know. I completely get the love for the character because she's part of the trinity, but it felt like a fan that hates everything DC related but her wrote it

[@marveler8994]

@InevitableOption-ic2vx It has nothing to do with that when characters like waller are seen as unlikeable, it's Wonder Woman and the absolute worship the writers have for her (I still love the character and her importance though)

[@marveler8994]

@InevitableOption-ic2vx fair enough, don't wanna make it come off as though I hate wonder woman either or that she doesn't deserve that kind of praise, but when you get characters like Lex Luthor (the evil one at that) saying people should be like her, it gets weird lol

[@SeanWheeler100]

And they made Wonder Woman into a jerk who doesn't trust the Suicide Squad. Yet the Squad like her more than the Flash who saved them twice before he got brainwashed. Talk about character shilling.

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

​@@SeanWheeler100And a racist against sharks.

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

​​@@SeanWheeler100And they made her a racist against sharks.

[@Jamushu]

*_"THERE'S NOWHERE TO RUN!!!!!!!!!"_* *(Smash Bros Theme)*

[@ishaanbhattacharya9405]

Dc hates almost every character they have nowadays. Plz james gunn save DC

[@elcalabozodelandroide2]

james gunn would write this game twice if he could

[@paatagigolashvili9551]

@@elcalabozodelandroide2 we haven't even seen his Cinematic Universe

[@elcalabozodelandroide2]

@@paatagigolashvili9551 we have seen use superman And we know he wouldnt mind making the justice the butt of the joke

[@paatagigolashvili9551]

@@elcalabozodelandroide2 not actual movie,but regardless i like cast and i have hopes,high hopes

[@karimdavis7065]

This clearly shows that you don't read comics and you don't know what you're talking about

[@Villakeen]

The Flash, Nightwing, Green Arrow and Aqua-man are always getting disrespect…

[@TeamReArise]

Hawkman too

[@dbabu51]

Arrow was out here fighting ras al ghul Malcolm Merlyn and deathstroke in seasons 1-3 and then loses to some drug dealer and a girl with the same exact powers as his team member who he constantly beats the shit out of

[@doctorbr2195]

Don't forget the Green Lanterns, Hal being a punchingbag for Parademons and Darkseid soloeing Oa and the corp

[@omoefeasiemo3601]

1:21 it's crazy to my how no one batted an eye at the flash breakdancing but she-hulk twerking for 20 seconds got the whole world outraged even though the flash scene is arguably worse

[@Realcordy]

Don’t lie to yourself please

[@omoefeasiemo3601]

@@Realcordy I'm not lying

[@10sansari]

The Flash scene is hilarious and very charming. It also works within context as his mind is being altered by a villain. I don't mind the She-Hulk twerk scene either.

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

No one was watching the flash at that point

[@omoefeasiemo3601]

@@technounionrepresentative4274 I guess you're right

[@javontemorant4701]

As a Diehard Barry Allen fan, it hurts how the people who don't know Flash will always see Grant Gustin's Flash as the one and only Flash. Like he did great on his role but he wasn't the Flash in comics who actually learns from his mistakes and never needed a mentor or team to kick ass. Barry in the show would panic of a bomb getting attach but the comics Barry would just run far away and think of 10 ways to get a bomb off.

[@Drums_of_Liberation]

Doesn't help that CW Flash had to be given Wally's personality just so people would like their Barry

[@Jetblast01]

Speedsters without limitations are always getting hoe'd out because of how broken they are. If you're gonna make a speedster character that can do all kinda things, make it so he can only do it in short bursts or other limitations like he can't phase through matter or time travel.

[@SeanWheeler100]

Like my speedster character, the Speedstress. She can't phase through solid matter. When she vibrates at the same frequency that Barry uses to phase, she acts more like a power saw than a ghost. And Speedstress could time travel, but only to the past. She'd have to wait for the future. And while she can go back to the past, she can't change the past because the universe of Verse-617861 is a concrete timeline that operates on Lost's time travel rule of whatever happened happened, so a future Speedstress would have already appeared before she time-travels, and whatever she tries in the past, she'd end up doing what her future self already did in the present, making her time travel practically useless other than to show up on time to something she's late to, and even that is not worth it as her birthday would change because going months in the past make her months older so her original date of birth won't be a good indicator of when she gets a year older anymore, and going back years means she would be years older. And even if she just goes back an hour earlier, she can't do that too much because they add up and throw off her birthday. That is a good reason she wouldn't time travel that much. Not because of any grandfather parodoxes or butterfly ripple effects that are IMPOSSIBLE in a concrete timeline but because of how it would make her birthday confusing.

[@johnfelix503]

Either that or give him an equally broken villain. One of his main villains should be a teleporter like Shimazaki from Mob Psycho without the limitation of being blind. Now the Flash has a Reverse Flash level menace of a villain.

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@johnfelix503 The Speedstress' arch enemy is her son from the future, Speedman. He's the reason I gave Speedstress the ability to time-travel, because if her son has inherited her powers and time travelled, she must have the ability to time travel too. Speedsters could go back in time by going faster than time to run in Negative Time. However, as they could only go backwards in time with this method, Speedman is trapped in the past when his mother was a freshman in high school. And he couldn't change the past, so he had to act like his mother's greatest foe. And another villain the Speedstress would face is Coin Man. He flips a coin to determine all of his decisions. And since Speedstress doesn't want to get in trouble for arresting or fighting an innocent man who didn't do anything illegal, she has to wait for his coin toss to make him do a crime. She always makes sure her opponent makes the first move. But As long as Coin Man is at a bank or somewhere he could hurt someone, Speedstress has to watch him. So yeah, Coin Man really tests her patience and was the reason she was late for school.

[@johnfelix503]

@@SeanWheeler100 I like your creativity buddy. This has some Back to the Future vibes but with superpowers this time lol. I recommend you watch Filmento's videos if you're in the process of creating a plot for these characters. Check out the ones on Plot, Protagonist and Villains this should give a good foundation.

[@johnfelix503]

@@SeanWheeler100 By the way be careful with this time travel system it's pretty easy to have plotholes in it. I recommend a tv show called Dark from Netflix that was able to pull this off with little to no plotholes.

[@Step43099]

The problem with the flash as a serialized show is how do you make every episode interesting when Barry should never ever have issues against any villain that isn’t a speedster logically speaking. It makes no sense but there has to be conflict

[@ВардотКапрелло]

First, do not create show with 23 episodes, where only 7-9 episodes are main plot. Take off useless enemies(Shapeshifter, Multiplier, Captain Cold, Heat Wave and so on). Second, there were non-speedsters with interesting powers. Some of them could work as enemies. Well, I should say that watching a show, where op main character gets his ass kicked by some weaklings is not so entertaining.

[@Timmy-mi2ef]

Have them team up

[@DgardsGaming]

4:58 Don't do Wally dirty like that.

[@baligong3592]

It's funny, cause most of the issues for Flash can be solved by not having him faster than Time itself. I blame CW for constantly showing The Flash as some plot device to Time Travel, instead of treating him like an actual character. The Flash IS NOT even the only one to time travel, most DC characters you can think of can time travel, yet Flash is treated as if the only thing special about him is that.

[@kingol4801]

If your speedster is not on that level, they are useless. And if they are on that level, they are Dr. Manhattan

[@baligong3592]

@@kingol4801 Makes no sense, because you do realise a Speedster running and dropping a suitcase at you at 100MPH will put you 6 feet underground or comatose, right? Speedsters can quickly create a Tornado by running at 200MPH and kicking dust, dirt, and sand off the ground. Considering planes do it at 500MPH While being a giant piece of Metal. It'll take a Speedster a lot less to create a Vortex with just their hand. There's also a Difference between Combat Speed, Running Speed, and Reflex/Agility. All of what I mentioned will make a Speedsters still feel powerful, yet understandably still susceptible to Normal Attacks like Gunfire or a Supervillain fighting back. Speedsters do NOT need to be faster than Time, It's dumb to make them so.

[@CKER-cl8in]

Fast enough for a superhuman to react to?

[@baligong3592]

@@CKER-cl8in Depends on what you mean by Superhuman. Ex: you're already Considered Superhuman if you can lift someone, like Batman (6,2", 240lbs) , over your head with only 1 of your arms... Which is a feat pretty common feat amongst Heroes.

[@HangMrH]

@@baligong3592hence speedforce, hence speedster can only activate the speed instead of being constantly in it, that would age them drastically and cause their Death. hence they become Godlike only when they have the force. Hence they don't need to eat themselves to death because of high metabolism. Speedsters never made any sense at all, I turned off my brain completely

[@IssaSnowDay]

I really wish S Squad would’ve taken the “halo reach” approach to the story. The squad desperately trying to finish their mission while getting effortlessly picked off, narrowly accomplishing the job with the help of the last non-corrupted members of the league would’ve been so damn fire. And would’ve been some interesting character growth for traditional villains realizing they may have wasted their lives hurting people, or maybe just doubling down showing they truly are irredeemable would’ve been cool too. Just wasted potential 😞

[@commonsense5199]

CW had done Godspeed dirty. Very dirty. Godspeed is a better character in the comics. That’s why I say before CW do more harm than help. Agree about Zack Snyder’s Flash. He does act more like a kid/teenager. I remember people compare Ben Atfleck and him with MCU Iron Man and Spider Man. 5:37 Do you mean Rick Famuyiwa the “former” director of Flash movie? He said he planned Eboard Thawne in the movie. But since Famuyiwa left during production, Thawne was replaced by Dark Flash aka Future Flashpoint Barry. So…. Both road would be terrible. Like why do flashpoint and introduce Thawne in first and only live action flash movie? We only got Captain boomerang but no other flash villains. Well you say Harley admires Wonder Woman. You already show Harley wants smash Wonder Woman. As you already show the clip in 10:38. Imagine if Captain Boomerang flirts with Wonder Woman. Yeah that won’t go well, if people saw that. 11:38 We should talk about Toy-man. This Toy-man is literally a kid. Who is a fan and admires the justice league. He thought he use his technology to help to un-brainwash the justice league. But no, he ended up helping suicide squad to kill the justice league. Even the post game, Toy-man was in fact sad and crying the fact he help suicide squad kill the justice league. I feel bad for this Toy-Man he not even a villain just kid who wants to save the justice league. I don’t how he with technology not know Amanda Waller is a bad guy. 16:35 Yeah Flash’s Death in the Injustice Movie is so dumb and it wouldn’t work. The Flash is immune to toxins because his *Super Speed Metabolism* 18:27 And Wally West and His Cousin Wallace(you know him as new 52 Wally) only got Cameos in DC animated movie universe. 20:26 Since The Chad, Jeremy Adams, wrote Flash comics i believe the best future movie adaptation is his *Flash: One Minute War.* It focus on the Flash Family fighting super speed Aliens. All the other DC Heroes are frozen in time. One Minute War can work.

[@sensidog1]

The hatred DC has for The Flash is the same hatred Marvel has for Spider-Man

[@mariogariazzo2024]

Yo this character is like 60 yo, does he have any story? Nah, he has flashpoint. From 2015.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

They should've just taken some of the story elements and casting choices from the show and made them into various movies

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

The Flash can't have shit no more if it isn't some universe ending event or some alternate earth or timey wimey bullshit. I want a flash film where he's protecting Central City from his rogues gallery.

[@turtleanton6539]

Yeh😮

[@BiriBiri925]

His opponents are a big Monke, a dude throwing boomerangs, a dude with a gun shooting ice. Nobody's gonna take that seriously.

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

​​@@BiriBiri925IDK It all depends in how you do it. Like nobody expected a vilain like master Shen from kung fu panda who is a peacock to be taken seriously but people still do and think he is a great vilain in animation. So you can defenetely make it work you just have to do it right.

[@chrismarple]

@malikpierre-louis3343well that is animated and all the characters are all animals I don’t think that example is very comparable. Some of his villains would work incredibly well like reverse flash, savitar, and mirror man if he got an over haul.

[@TevyaSmolka]

At least the good news Wally west my boy is back to being the main flash In the comics which that makes me so happy.

[@badasscomedy5126]

I thought Batwoman, Aquaman, and Martian Manhunter were the most disrespected DC characters ever… you managed to prove me wrong in a matter of 20 minutes

[@SupergirlJLM]

Batman's explosives only damaged the suit not Doomsday himself

[@aubeary190]

Flash has the Superman problem where he's just so incredibly broken that writers don't know what to do with him, so they just make up some bs for the story to work.

[@ineedit1772]

Yep in the injustice movie bro died to a saw blade that he can easily dodge but somehow didn’t react but he was on fear toxin but at the same time duck in fear bruh

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I would've rather had a good Flash movie, then 9 crappy seasons of a Flash show

[@JonathanBrown623]

Seasons 1-3 was good but everything else was either mid or trash

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@JonathanBrown623 But just take elements from the show and put them into movies, and it would be better. Less time wasted. No reliance on villain of the week. An actual sense of conclusion to the story, instead of it just going on and on forever.

[@MisterDriskul]

@@JonathanBrown623 Season 1 was just average. Season 2 was just the same. Season 3 was predictable and boring. After that, it went downhill.

[@zzirfamo24]

We did get a flash movie and it came out worse than the show😂😂💀

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@zzirfamo24 that's because the whole Snyderverse was doomed from the start. No leadership or goal. It just kept limping on. They made every stupid decision they could. The Flash movie made no sense and I'm glad it bombed. They'll always be behind the MCU because they have no clue how to build up a cinematic universe.

[@OurKindofEntertainment]

To this day, Zoom's initial beating of Barry before dragging his thrashed body around Central City to the police station, the media station (newspaper if I remember correctly) and back to S.T.A.R. Labs before crippling him was just brutal and IMO the worst beating he ever received in that show...

[@UserNameWswag]

0:12 the real thing to be mad about is the shell isnt animated falling out the barrel

[@gangofheroes]

Ezra Miller Flash wasn't acting like Wally West at least as The Flash but Bart Allen.

[@spaceman5017]

Why are you disrespecting Bart like that 😂

[@SeanWheeler100]

@@spaceman5017 Aren't we disrespecting Wally West when we compare Ezra Miller?

[@anomaly395]

Finally. That's what I've been saying since he first debuted. He comes off way more as Bart Allen to me than Wally.

[@darrenmays2036]

@@anomaly395and he’s not supposed to be either

[@FakebookFriend]

Except Bart was never a dweeb. He was manic and ADD, but in action. He wouldn’t ask what the deal with Brunch is. He would jump off a cliff without thinking about how to land. He was leap before you look.

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

I completely understand your point. That whole being dependent on a team is the same thing as ruining Batman in the comics. Batman is a super genius polymathic intellectual first and legendary grandmaster-level one-man army warrior second. All he needs is Alfred and a Robin to humanize him. Anything else is unnecessary and unneeded as it nerfs him to validate their membership. With that being said what threat can you write for him that isn't a speedster? The only Flash villain to get consistent appearances is Captain Boomerang a regular Australian thief with a Boomerang. He needs a main villain like Obito from Naruto. He becomes intangible and Flash can't touch him as he can transport Flash into another dimension but also is a former MARSOC Raider who could defeat him in combat.

[@esiasfrost2306]

I can see where you're coming from about the flash but I'm going to have to disagree with you about the Bat family being unneeded and unnecessary. There are a lot of good stories involving them like no man's land and batman inc. a lot of the time they add a lot of liveliness to Gotham and batman in General characters like Barbara, Cassandra, tim, Jason, Cassie , Helena , and lessie thompkins help explore different aspects of his character some very interesting story lines and interaction that can be really fun to read. Also I feel like it also shows how Bruce is willing to open up and make a new family from the one he's lost all those years about in the alley

[@FriendlyBatDoom]

@@esiasfrost2306 the robins and maybe Cassandra Cain I'm okay with but not anyone else. What is the point of having 4 robins past and present, Barbara, Spoiler, Batwoman, Ghostmaker, Harley Quinn in some cases for some reason, Signal, and Azrael to name a few if nothing is changed? Ghostmaker, Azrael, and Harley are the only ones not trained by him. Because they were trained by the Walking Encyclopedia of Warfare/Espionage and Scientific Knowledge in Bruce Wayne they're at the top of the line both as warriors and intellectuals on the planet with for the most part Mansa Musa level money behind them for funding and still nothing changes. One of the problems is the fact that they are almost always in Gotham but these massive city-shaking events keep happening back to back. City of Bane, Joker War, Fear State, and Gotham War just to name some. They even have Duke Thomas Signal the metahuman genius polymathic ninja trained by Batman fighting crime in Daylight and nothing changes. These issues would make some sense if it was Ra’s Al Ghul and the LOS or some massive Occult threat but no it's criminals. Lastly, because they're so many members he is no longer needed to be fighting crime as he can now be Bruce Wayne financing things in Gotham full-time. They need to evolve in some fashion for Batman as he's clearly stagnating with the same old grounded-in-reality takes on film and suffering from relying on the repeated Joker cycle and from having too much that it's now a crutch.

[@johnfelix503]

I think his main villain should be a teleporter like Shimazaki from Mob Psycho. Make the villain with this powerset and the flash has a Reverse Flash level menace of an opponent.

[@dziewiaty]

​@@FriendlyBatDoom be glad bat gets consistent development, while Spiderman writer will do everything to preserve status quo

[@kingol4801]

@@johnfelix503 That is just stupid. Flash can move faster than thought. He can quite literally walk the entire planet before teleportation character will have a neuron sparking in their brain… let alone formulating a semblance of a thought to use their powers

[@zackalexon7020]

As rushed as the Crisis animated movie was, I thought that was the best portrayal of Barry Allen.

[@Doctor_Odin]

The WB seems to not understand the DC’s iconic stories require proper build up in establishing proper characters & context for the events.

[@lordbritannic]

there is a lego movie staring the Flash - "Lego DC Comics Super Heroes: The Flash"

[@wiilov]

Beast Boy Fans: First time?

[@CinnamonBob]

I how you weren't implying that quicksilver was an example of this, they established that his speed is equal to that of a bullets, not faster

[@M567dk]

When they gave the Flash a tragic backstory for his origins it was the actual start to the downfall of the Flash Character. In this case the Barry Allen Flash character.

[@mayotango1317]

Why? That makes Barry a better character.

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

Litteraly no.

[@chrismarple]

Thank God you aren’t writing his story. Thats one of the best parts of his story.

[@rocky_Sullivan_69]

Spider-man writers: finally! A worthy hater opponents!

[@shrishrevankar3469]

But Spider-Man gets his closed one killed or shot at. Obviously difference being, a pissed of Spider-Man is more dangerous than anybody

[@rocky_Sullivan_69]

@@shrishrevankar3469 but thr writers enjoy ruined spider-man's life (for example: They maked him a cuckold)

[@Ave_Christus_Rex3777]

I had no idea CWs Flash was part of the "Arrow Verse" . Considering Flash 's success i though it would be called the Flash Verse.

[@ICLHStudio]

It would definitely be nice to get some better portrayals of the Flash, and some more original uses beyond time/multiverse shenanigans; but I do have to say, as far as inconsistent power-scaling goes, that's not a problem that originated in the adaptations (or recently), he's a superhero, that's just part of the source material. I don't think that across the entirety of DC and Marvel comics that there's been a single super hero or villain appearing for more than a handful of issues that has EVER had even the SLIGHTEST bit of consistency in their power levels; superhero comics just flat out don't care about that, and never have (and likely never will). That's not to say that writers can't do a better job than they are; adaptations do have the opportunity to condense and refine the chaos of the originals into something a little more streamlined, and if they aren't going to make the details consistent, they could at least learn to make it not as obvious.

[@jonathanathor117]

5:40 tbf flashpoint do be kind of ass though. Especially with the fact that new 52 happen with just hard reboot everything for no real justification other than a dumb business decision. The 2 best elements was flashpoint batman, superman, cyborg and the last fight with flash vs barry allen.

[@kez.011]

When it comes to power scaling, I feel like you could do both. All you’d have to do is place consequences for the flash doing the insane speed feats and that force him to return to “base” speed.

[@ggghost000]

I feel like there vaguely is a weakness he has already, I remember wally always needing food in the animated Justice League, idk why they don't just ramp that up and use it better or something 😭 it would be so easy

[@Batman-fg4wu]

Honestly this might be a hot take but, I like how The Flash was done in the Crisis On Infinite Earths movie. It feels like what the 2023 Flash movie wanted to be (a multiverse film that does a good job at giving us a look at Barry's life). Also, a video suggestion: DC needs to start using Martian Manhunter better, that man has been SEVERALLY underutilized

[@LadyLark712]

I kept thinking you didn’t understand Captain Cold and his Cold gun. Which shoots cold that reaches absolute zero temperatures but then I saw your ending. Where you literally show artwork of the Rogues during Jeremy Adams run and then I realized that I probably just didn’t understand what you were trying to convey.

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

Is your point that cold is a treat because his gun can stop his Flash in his tracks ? Because if that's the case then That's not a good point since Cold has to press the trigger and Barry can easily take his gun before He can even touch the trigger.

[@LadyLark712]

@@malikpierre-louis3343 That’s true. Except Cold apparently has device on him that emits absolute zero temperatures. So Flash can’t get close to Cold without slowing down. One of the reasons Captain Cold is so dangerous is his planning skills. 🧐

[@malikpierre-louis3343]

@@LadyLark712 Not in the show tho He only criticized the version of capatain cold in the CW never the one from the comics who does have that ability The comics version is a master strategist The CW version is just a guy with a gun that's not even a treat to cops.

[@LadyLark712]

@@malikpierre-louis3343 Okay well. I’ll take your word for it. Since it’s been 5 months since I’ve watched this and it’s 2:40 am right now. So…😅

[@boss06829]

If Kill the Justice league is truly canon, they should never use the characters again. They clearly don’t know how to anyways.

[@primal8724]

Look the issue with SS: kills the Justice League they treated it like it was another Arkham game instead of treating it like it was its own thing I don't mind it being in the Arkham universe but if they presented it in its own way & not trying to sell it as another Arkham game am pretty sure it wouldn't have gotten the backlash like it received... Now " disrespecting" the heros uhhh look am not saying this game is the greatest ever far from that but come on it's the name of the game kill the Justice League if the heros have to die could have they done a better job killing them? Yeah of course but I played the game when it 1st came out & it dropped major hints that something was not right with the JL yeah I know they were brainwashed that's not what I meant I mean how you defeat them especially Batman getting shot in the head/mouth after years of dodging bullets and upgrading his suits he's going to get taken out like that? Yeah something was definitely off that's where the theory of them being Clones came in.. But overall I think the end game to all of this is the Arkham verse is it going to get reset

[@twinodoom]

11:37 Something to note about the Flash fight is that they were using versions of the same device from Toy Man, which could have been upgraded to remove the manual activation weakness. However, dialogue from the Flash boss fight mentions that the device only prevents Barry from touching them at close range, and doesn't do anything to Flash if he doesn't get close. Which means that this Flash was confirmed to moving at his normal speeds when he died to bullets that he was already established to be capable of dodging earlier into the game.

[@dionysisnance4204]

When zoom first showed up he gave Barry that 10 piece combo no biscuit

[@amandastephens2058]

Nah , he added a biscuit and didn't give him no drink 😂

[@talos4702]

To me, the flash never being able to have a stand alone story that doesn’t involve time travel, is the equivalence of how every major event involving Spider-Man, must include the multiverse. Like I swear, we will never get a comic run, game, or movie about Spider-Man that’s more smaller scale and personal. And we will never get a flash story that’s just about him saving the day from like, mirror master or something. And of course, without a dumb team helping him every step of the way.

[@AJ-xc4qe]

I can’t get over how the last-ever official Arrowverse season was a bad final season of a once decent show that cares more about simping for a badly written side character and less about giving the characters an exciting, definitive and respectful ending. This is an unpopular opinion but Sam Lane's season 2 finale speech was the worst moment of the entire show. The dialogue was forced and felt less like a Superman and Lois moment and more like a Warner Bros moment. Because they needed a way to confirm that the show was NEVER part of the Arrowverse. They could’ve just made all of the show’s changes part of the Earth Prime changes. Even if you hate the Arrowverse, leading the fans on with Diggle cameos and mentioning Oliver and the Crisis for two straight seasons was a dick move that disrespects the fans' intelligence. Which is exactly what Warner Bros does, especially with DC fans. And even at the time, I knew the retcon was gonna be pointless. Which proved me right because after the following season, it was announced to be cancelled after the next season! Between the retcon and Legends of Tomorrow, the 3rd official Arrowverse show, getting cancelled on a fucking cliffhanger, just so they wouldn't have to pay for the sets anymore, the Arrowverse ends on one of its’ most pathetic notes. The Arrowverse-scratch that-MOST DCTV shows in general deserved better management. And I can't think of a better way to give them an epic ending than by making another multiverse crossover! With better writing, VFX, etc! And then have it end with most of the shows retconned in the same universe, something many of the fans of these shows have always wanted. They could always bring back this universe in whichever project the same way the DCAU returns in a different project once in a while. The fans of all these shows want it, most of the actors of these shows want it, some of the writers of these shows want it. However, I won't be surprised if the writers/producers of S&L don't want it.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

The CW shows were always going to go downhill due to lack of budget and their teen soap opera writing style

[@dragonknight1560]

Yea, I kinda gave up on Flash during the second half of Season 4. OH BOY that was utter trash and I was like "... I miss Season 3 now" and thank god I haven't return. When I saw that clip with the lightsaber battle, I was more convinced watching KAMEN RIDER than that.

[@Sandierchain97]

You should do marvel hates and disrespects spider-man

[@Dedd1enne]

CW flash losing to any villain that isn't a speedster is just wrong, someone calc'ed that he was 400,000x the speed of light, (based on the fact he made a nuclear explosion last hours) how is this man losing to normal thugs 😭

[@eduardopantoja9115]

Even if he was just as fast as lightning or light, he should blitz any non speedster character

[@mayotango1317]

That happen in the cómics, because the Rogues are the best villains.

[@dbabu51]

@@mayotango1317he shouldn’t be losing to fucking Leonard snart tho, or any other non speedster villain lol cicada was such a cheese ass villain

[@BiriBiri925]

This calculation is meaningless, the physics in this show has nothing to do with reality. It takes something like Mach 5 to time travel in this show. However, 5 Mach is still way more than it takes to beat the crap out of all the antagonists on this show except the fast guys.

[@trevturp6891]

The plot threads in Season 3 were also hard to watch just as much as the plot threads in the others seasons, except for the first two seasons.

[@AngelOfNoMercy]

its not JUST flash, his villain's get this same treatment. "the rouges" [ie captain boomerangs crew] in the comics ARE WAY different from what you see in games like ssktjl and the flash cw series, they don't even kill people in the comics not even cops and DEFINTLY NOT A speedster, because it just draws attention, from people like supes.

[@Waterypeanutbutter]

It’s hard to make an engaging story when a character can get rid of pretty much any villain he faces ☠️

[@jonbrewer297]

I saw this title and thought "Well, yeah, DC hates Wally. Or Dan Didio did. Everyone knows that. He hated Roy too." Then I figured out you were talking about Barry Allen. This is how all CW shows are, I'm afraid. Berlanti is really bad as a showrunner. 2:00 Here's where I have to draw a line. Unlike "We are Robin", saying we are the Flash makes less sense because, well, frankly, the Flash can do things we can't simply learn. 3:53 And now I'm thinking of Ezra Miller's weird Flash cult.

[@jacobcenter7374]

The Flash series emphasized this problem the most, because it STARTED with having great respect for the character. Reverse Flash and Zoom demolished him early because he was young and not very powerful yet, and then he always got the chance to demolish them later. He actually whooped Zoom twice in one episode. And then they lost all respect for the character, and treated him like a joke. The writers were literally like zoom "give people hope, so I can rip it away from them"

[@anonymoususer188]

To be fair, I think the best onscreen version of the all the members of the justice league is justice league unlimited. That era was amazing. The writers understood how to make all the main members work. To name a few specific moments: Superman's world of cardboard speech is amazing, Batman is awesome in the episode with Ace, The Flash has that one great episode where the city holds a celebration in honor of him that four villains from his rogue's gallery try to crash during which we see just how much he cares about everyone, even some of the villains. That show was great.

[@Achieme]

You pretty much explained my issue with speedsters within 50 seconds. Super speed is such a broken ability it's not funny. There were many times where villains (who can run at normal speed may i remind you) runs around the corner and when flash goes around the corner to catch them they disappear all of a sudden. There was a point where flash said he checked all over the city which is cap AF.

[@Latentheatfussion]

The same issue is prevalent in the comics

[@ryszakowy]

CW show was "i am the fastest man alive" >oh no i'm not the fastest man alive >"run barry run" >repeat every episode/arc animated injustice - makes him unable to dodge a saw blade suicide squad kill the rocksteady - plz let's ignore it's existence movies - tone deaf and unable to understand that he can move so fast everything stops for him it's like they know only about time travel and flashpoint paradox and that's what they use flash for ONLY

[@MandatoryFruit]

I don't really understand why it's so hard for them to keep Flash consistent. You can have OP characters and still keep the stakes high. They do it with Superman all the time. The Rogues work not just because they are well written characters, but also because each of their abilities DO actually functionally counter Flash. Captain Cold being the most prominent example. A lot of people don't seem to understand just how cold absolute zero (the temperature the cold gun produces) actually is. It is the point at which atoms completely stop moving. That would require infinite energy to be reached irl. The Flash can only survive such a thing because the Speedforce moves the atoms he is composed of at like a billion times the speed of anything else. I'm rambling but my point is that the Cold gun is a valid counter to The Flash because the weapon so cold that just being within a couple feet of the beam's proximity would freeze someone solid. Ofc it would slow a speedster. And all of the Rogues have abilities designed to slow and/or preoccupy Flash.

[@bluecanine3374]

Not very familiar with Flash stuff, but even a casual like me can see how Mirror Master is a counter too with being able to make illusions, switch places in other reflective surfaces instantly, and basically hiding away in his little mirror world where the Flash can't touch him. Weather Wizard can alter so many variables that the Flash has to account for, like suddenly he will be running with hurricane winds trying to lift him off the ground, throw lightning at him that is close to light speed, hell just give him heat stroke from running so much by making the area impossibly hot. Obscure his vision with fog.

[@victormutta1115]

What a missed opportunity to add a clip of Madvocate’s “Don’tstoptotalkdon’tstoptotalkdon’tstoptotalkdon’tstoptotalk”.

[@mrkaji8913]

19:29 I’d like to see rebirth adapted

[@Keith-san3022]

This is exactly why I don't watch or play modern day media.They just know how to ruin the Superhero genre as a whole.

[@mrkaji8913]

17:52 I love when they follow the plot of the comics, rather than deviate from it.

[@copperface3574]

I liked his short portrayal in Batman The Brave and The Bold. Most of the episode was dedicated to building him up by showing how his absence affected his rogues, Wally and Jay. It’s revealed to us late in the episode that he was trapped in the future by Reverse-Flash. With 2 minutes left of the episode we see him in action against RF it was a really cool showcase of what made the character cool; having super speed yes but using it in really clever ways to outmaneuver RF who was siphoning off his speed at the time in that short time he was allowed to shine he was a beast and wasn’t held down by dumb writing decisions.

[@trexadvent4726]

Do you think Lucas Till or Will Poulter should be Barry Allen Flash in James Gunn DC projects in the DCU?

[@hatguy2254]

Fun fact: the best depiction of wally's speed is teen titans 2003 since he could still be exhausted if he ran too long

[@wilmedina8368]

I just don't get it... they have our money before these movies are even made and they keep screwing up. Over 80 years worth of source material and they screwed up. WTF?!?!?

[@JcgLounge]

3:38 Bloodwork was actually one of the better villains in the later seasons of the show

[@messiahpankey5061]

Flash is the Spider-man of DC💀

[@AidenAlias]

The squad loves WW because she has a solo game coming. Need to promote the character well so it sells.

[@somedorkydude6483]

"The justice league are clones" I know about the leaks but pointing this out. If braniac can clone the league and their equipment this quickly then why not outfit an army with the disrupter and stop the squad from moving or better yet why not have braniac use his instant win button as established right after the squad some how kills superman

[@alexosborne1613]

The issue with the Flash is they always get him to max power straight away. There is no growth. In the flash show, he time travelled in season 1 halfway through the series. In the movie he time travelled in his first appearance. The most popular run in the comics is Wally West, why? He starts the series really depowered and through his comic series run, he gets faster and faster realising the key to his speed is his own mental barriers and the fear of replacing Barry. By issue 100 we see he surpasses his mentor and discovers the speed force. There was a journey there and character development. On Tv and film they just want to skip straight to the speed force, Bang! dude can slow time Bang!. But then they need to keep nerfing the guy in someway. It's sad.

[@UserName70-ee4fx]

I want to see Captain Cold as a cyborg. Explains how he can react to a speedster and Flash doesn't have to slow down.

[@bluemoth6983]

if captain cold was a cyborg wouldnt that just make him mr freeze 2

[@UserName70-ee4fx]

@@bluemoth6983 There are ways to spice it up. Captain Cold could learn to absorb speed force energy and become some kind of Frost Flash. I can imagine him freezing streets and cars as he runs by

[@bad-people6510]

To be fair the actual Death of Superman story arc was preceded by Doomsday beating the shit out of the Justice League also, with the heavy caveat that the League wasn't comprised of anything close to the A-team at the time.

[@nadie887]

This is not just about the flash. Quicksilver too. Redrush from invincible was killed in a dumb way too. It's about speedsters in general.

[@crazydud3380]

"Defenders of this game" . . . Wait, the Suicide Squad game has defenders? Based on its login stats, they're literally in the triple digits across the entire globe.

[@Deshbar]

CW Zoom deserves all the glaze.

[@drewthelovable6809]

Playing devil’s advocate for the injustice movie killing the flash; how they did it was stupid, but I imagine they did it to explain why flash just didn’t go back in time.

[@TheEntertainmentKnight]

This Channel shows how writers just disrespect The Flash

[@eddierascalhaskell4954]

The one thing that bugs me is how they have a way of jumbling Wally's personality on to Barry in some adaptions.