737 MAX On MSFS ‘24 - Real Examiners React LIVE

[@MentourNow]

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[@rboettger]

petters videostream seemed to be hosted by MS Servers too

[@MTM358]

Petter needs some fiber internet haha

[@tomdchi12]

This is a great example of why we want/need multi-player collaborative cockpit in MSFS.

[@marhawkman303]

there ARE some games that can do that and it's great. they're a bit less complex though.

[@GeeBoggs]

You guys crack me up! What a great production duo. How interesting this piece was to me. I had no idea a great deal of time is required to start a Max engine. As novices and passengers, we simply hear the engines start and presume the cockpit crew had pressed the “start” button only moments before. Nice job. Team up together more often! Gee Boggs, Sonoma, California

[@TheMightyHams]

Just an FYI, STD altimeter *does* work on the 737-Max, you just have to hold left click then right click simultaneously on the STD button. It's a bit counter intuitive without the cursor tips enabled.

[@lukemoores6763]

It would be fun to see you try and fly an Airbus with zero instruction to see how you do in an unfamiliar aircraft!

[@Great-Documentaries]

Would you allow them to see the checklists?

[@FindLiberty]

That would be fun too. This was a great video - thanks so much to Petter & Ben! 2024-Nov-28 Happy Thanksgiving turkey day everyone.

[@MikkoRantalainen]

@@Great-Documentaries I think it would be okay to see the checklists because a real Airbus pilot would have access to those, too.

[@rollingreene1220]

I'm not much into airliners but your very natural and fluid interaction was really impressive - Enjoyed every minute of this

[@marcoanzalone2808]

Guys you forgot about sterile cockpit 😂😜

[@maxmustermann194]

That's because that broken ass software is really hard to take seriously XD

[@danieldh3]

Pmdg 737 are the best experience there is for msfs , enjoy watching the both of you examine this 737 Max in msfs 24

[@davidperry7128]

Fenix A320/319/321 by a country mile

[@Alicepretty98]

I rather pmdg than fenix ​@@davidperry7128

[@farcydebop]

We need more of this content.

[@blakef553]

Thanks guys! Loved watching this flight from the cockpit. Tutorial and humor mixed in was great. MSFS version XYZ has always had bugs that never seem to get fixed. But they usually work "good enough".

[@BouillaBased]

I hate that game development has devolved to "Meh, just charge them for the beta build, and we'll patch it as we go along." Gone are the days of receiving a polished product at launch.

[@mattahmann]

Hopefully not the case for GTA 6 since we’ve waited so long.

[@davidalanis3051]

This is what the SCRUM and Agile methodology bring to the industry for (in my point of view) bad

[@LuLeBe]

Then again back in the day bugs or missing features were still common and we didn’t get monthly sim, world and avionics updates. I think MS did a really good job with 2020, providing us with far more than we could have ever expected, so I’m very hopeful for 2024.

[@RavenousAardvark]

Think there are some rose tinted glasses about just how polished many games were in the past. Plenty of games that came out bad and stayed that way forever

[@Great-Documentaries]

"Gone are the days of receiving a polished product at launch." Yeah. That never happened. You should be glad that these FAR more sophisticated products receive updates far more often than in the bad old days of 1.2M floppies.

[@miroslavbachmann6249]

Díky!

[@Aleksei-p9g]

I can't recommend their virtual course enough. There are a lot of videos on youtube on how to fly 737, but when two actual 737 instructors explain things to you in great details it's completely different - I've learnt so much. And thank you for this stream, guys!

[@musefan12345]

Would love to see you guys try the iFly 737 MAX, and also the PMDG 738, both in MSFS2020. I bet you'd find them to be a LOT more realistic than a MS default aircraft. Hopefully they make it over to MSFS2024 soon.

[@aerotube7291]

This looks like a great fun vid with real passionate pilots! Awesome. Gidday from nz

[@LiquidBlitzPlays]

I really hope Microsoft take this kind of content in a positive and constructive way to help refine this simulator as far as it can possibly go. I can't think of a single way for them to improve the accuracy of this better than real, experienced pilots giving step-by-step feedback on every intricate detail. Good work guys, and also very entertaining at the same time!

[@bndahi8251]

yea, its free QA, it would be dumb to not open official channels with them

[@LuLeBe]

They surely have quite a few real pilots working with them, but just didn’t have the capacity to build this plane more accurately. I mean default aircraft usually didn’t even have a somewhat decent FMS….

[@womble321]

Never forget this is a game. It's not real!

[@julianthompson9824]

Absolutely priceless feedback, they should pay the pilot, change the software and then release a “super-professional” version at an increased price.

[@Kiyodio-b6p]

For some of the buttons that "dont work" like the STD barometer, in '24 you now need to hold left click and then right click on the knob/button in question. (I havent watched the whole video)

[@JuniorMartinezTamayo]

cannot recommend this content enough...huge thanks for you guys for bringing this next level chance to learn about the aviation.great content

[@marcosavila8215]

Tower: "are you ready for taxi??" 737 max: " hummrmmr noo?"

[@salmanalkha4500]

Thanks!

[@battlefieldP4Fbeta]

52:20 ❤ thank you Petter, Ben & all else involved for this 'task-tour' kinda video, im 'just' a residential ("Sparky") electrical engineer but the work you guys do is as close as it gets to gods work aka: making magic happen. Trying to say i'm very thankful for all the content you and the Mentourpilot channel put out and especially this and the offer. You, Sir. Are the "Endboss" at the instructor game i.m.o. Certified legend status cemented & documented right here! Thank you for doing this Petter 💪

[@Joda-Pdo]

DUAL COOLING is the best function that we have in the A320 NEO family. As former 737 pilot, I don’t miss it at all. 737 is already a piece of museum, no matter how new fancy screen the put in the max.

[@CX1329]

I will get the Pro course someday (I just upgraded my PC setup in order to play MSFS 2024) but in the meantime I would absolutely LOVE to see more flight sim content like this from Petter and Ben on this channel! Having real world pilots go through real airline procedures adds so much incredibly valuable context and realism to our home simulators! If we get more videos like this, it's gonna be amazing when PMDG ports the NG series to MSFS 2024 and we're able to follow along with Ben and Petter!

[@gvjackson81]

IRL the slow start times of the GE and PW GTF engines are why when pushing back I give the crew the ok to start as soon as the MLG wheels touch the line. It cuts about two minutes off the time I have to wait for them to give the ok.

[@NavyGuy2OO7]

I know the sim had its issues on launch but I've been enjoying it a lot, the career mode is a lot more fun then I thought it would be. I've spent hours logging flights over the last few days.

[@Mark-Wester]

I really enjoyed watching you guys fly the Boeing 737 MAX in Flight simulator.

[@DBWhooperOG]

Even the fact the sim was a little borked this was still widely impressive to watch! Really hope MS sort them bugs out but again, thank you for this!

[@whiteoutgotu]

"Good luck. We're all counting on you." 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JamesH-uniquechannelname]

I am one of those flight simmer blokes; I discovered this and Mentour's other channel because I was hunting for info. Navigraph is great, FWIW, and IMO. My avatar? It's my Pilot2ATC headset. Ooow, everyone claps.

[@rjkdev]

I remember watching planes at MSP, and one day the wind was nasty. Lots of windshear alerts. About every 3rd plane was going around. We were listening to the ATC, and it was pretty funny. Seemed like the pilots were enjoying the wind. For example: One pilot landed and said "whoa!! That was fun!". ATC just laughed! :-)

[@gzk6nk]

Concord had an engine parameter called 'debow' to ensure the shafts were straight. It was done after engine start, but at a sub idle condition (debow mode selected by the FE on his panel) before running the engine up to idle once out of debow mode. Was this the precursor to modern turbofan practice? Vince C

[@vladimirvlasov4360]

That was an awesome collab! Now do an emergency!

[@FindLiberty]

OMG - Options to include actual recent malfunctions and emergencies would be a real 'killer' feature for this flight simulator.

[@sundar999]

This was great ! 🙂 I know up front you enjoy battling turbulence and crosswinds but you also know that passengers get scared 😉

[@rolfjohansen5376]

last time I played Microsoft fs version 1 or 2 ....on an 286 PC , much have happened since then

[@FindLiberty]

CONFIRMED

[@kevykevTPA]

"I'm sure you'll be fine" sounds a lot like a hole in Swiss cheese... #justsayin

[@wololo10]

Great camera quality and framerate

[@Aleksandar6ix]

This is the 2nd video claiming that this plane seems to be modeled off the NG. I guess I'll be buying the IFly Max!

[@bobthebomb1596]

Enjoyed that, thanks. Would love to get your reaction to one of the “Approach and departure” videos as to a non-Pilot their CRM procedures appear to be very good.

[@beastblood2five]

To be completely honest though Microsoft isn't really known for its high fidelity aircraft that's why there are third party developers they are the ones who put out the High Fidelity aircrafts

[@DarkRider2k3]

You guys should have checked out the iFly 737 Max! A few other 737 pilots I've seen love it too for it's realism, though like the PMDG you flew before it isn't free like the Microsoft version.

[@juhapehkonen7347]

Loved the Airplance reference. You should have repeated it after landing 🙂

[@salmanalkha4500]

GOOD JOB

[@qamulek]

I find a lot of the medium cargo missions will put too much weight in the tail making for a plane that just wants to go nose up on takeoff. Would be nice if the developers just added a load balancing mini-game for cargo missions to help stabilize the plane, then I could only blame myself for a bad take off...

[@phoenixexploration3301.1]

The eye level is missing. The triangles or whatever. You know when you adjust your seat.

[@richardirons9268]

Great video. I know that the PW pure power geared turbo-fan engines had teething problems due to thermal management causing delayed turn around times - looks like while these have been improved, there is still an issue. How does this compare with the CFM Leap engine options? Does flight simulator allow the choice of both airframe and engine combinations?

[@mendel5106]

Peter, check your upload speed and QOS (priorities on your router settings) that could get rid of the lag in your frame in the video.

[@MegaPrime_studios]

Apple needs a sim like this because they’d have the processors for this

[@amandagish5976]

Thank you for the shout out to Americans and Thanksgiving. 😀

[@greg6229]

Had to laugh at the comments about the MAX startup time. I work on the ramp and we handle both MAX and NG's. Countless times Ive been in the same scenario where we're waiting for the MAX to startup so we can pushback.

[@zpilot4523]

Its worse in the cold, sometimes it also takes forever for the engine to stabilize when its like -20c

[@rainscratch]

The First Officer's eyes look like a cross between Chucky and Regan in The Exorcist.

[@raymondgoubet]

Interesting (except the 14 ads I had). It would be good to do the same flight in 6 months' time to see if those few bugs are finally fixed. 👍👍

[@JamesDavidWalley]

While we know this doesn’t hold a candle to PMDG or iFly, let us take a moment to reflect on how far we've come from "default" airliners with 80% of their controls INOP and the only FMS being a pop-up Garmin GPS unit.

[@hateeternalmaver]

I'm so disappointed by Microsoft watching this. I bought MSFS2020 and with mods it's already good enough. If they didn't even bother to make *every single* knob work this time and still have issues bugs and glitches I'm not going to put in any money again! Great video guys.

[@captAdam66]

I think the Standard button does work but you right click, hold it down and left click...or the other way around...lol

[@stonecoldsteve316uk]

So i was just listening too one of your comments,about if u are not safe u will go around.But there are many examples in America of pilots trying to land in conditions they really shouldnt have,due too the alternative being to far from there homebase.I am trying too remember examples of my head,but physically tired after 6 12 hour shift at my local airport Manchester,pushback back 380s,747s, couple of 757s,and i am THE guy who towed concorde too its final resting place,next too the engine test bay.

[@zpilot4523]

No nuisance spoiler elec maintenance light, 3/10 Or no PSS causing engine alternate mode and return to gate. Small note too , the TAT should climb to +99 after starting #2 until you get airborne and overcome the Tat probe heat

[@aerotube7291]

Lower cruising speed=greater viewer minutes!

[@mick_hyde]

Surely we've done all this before in pervious versions??

[@federicoprice2687]

But this is the impervious version.... fully waterproof

[@grumpygrandad1216]

Out of curiosity, does the sun ever affect how easy ( or not ) you can see the glass cockpit panels etc ?

[@sjcwoor]

Were you cleared to land? Possible pilot deviation. Please advise when you're ready to copy a telephone number. lol I'm kiding of course. Great video as always.

[@ramon3221]

"cleared to line up and wait"? that should be "line up and wait"? Then calling "ready for departure" while you got a line up and wait is a bit odd as well, you likely will get a "hold position" back

[@wilsonle61]

Is there a limit on how often you can access the pro-course? Or, a time limit to finish it? Thanks!

[@VirtualCockpitChronicles]

I’ve not watched this yet but if it’s as much of a disaster as a340drivers experiance is going to be so funny! 😂😂 inop, inop, inop… the size of a Boeing with the automation of a 172 😂😂😂

[@leonkernan]

20:55 We have a master caution.. Ignore.

[@jasongordon6950]

Is this course that you are advertising has lifetime access?

[@VonycBln]

48:10 "....And this is where things went downhill really quickly… :)

[@sumikomei]

You could do the briefing during motoring xdd

[@salmopr]

long time no see

[@Sim737Pilot]

So in summary, this thing isn't ready to be safely flown on Vatsim yet. I'm sure over time, it will get better. Just don't be "That Guy" who creates a burden and holds up everyone else because your buggy plane/sim is having issues. Do us a favor and disconnect from network. It's just common courtesy. Just like you wouldn't want someone to spawn on top of you at your gate. I hope Asobo fixes these issues quickly.

[@Nemura12]

From a joke on the Airbus A330 driver channel to really 😂

[@rettenmundsolutions5709]

Great!

[@tedmitchell226]

I don't remember hearing landing gear down?

[@avgeeksim]

Wrong plane Petter! you should try the ifly max for msfs2020 or 2024 as soon as it releases!

[@Rmi_brandito]

Review the pmdg and ifly 😭

[@tbw223]

Reading all about all the MSFS issues while listening to the video and I can't believe that they don't offer a full download option for the game. I was interested in buying it, but my Internet is not fast but I can download all I want, so I wouldn't have a problem downloading 200+GB over a week but I'm not going to sit and wait every time I want to play the game. Made even crazier that Microsoft, which has its own cloud provider, Azure, and they can't load balancer and autoscale their servers to meet demand for a newly released game.

[@maxstr]

This game easily needs another year of development. What was the hurry to release it? Nobody was begging for it to come out ASAP

[@JujuAdams]

No doubt the executives at Microsoft were

[@johnaikema1055]

one thing to note. no unnecessary conversation during pre take-off, take-off, climb, approach, and landing. obviously, that would make this content far less useful. Great vid.

[@Wintermute909]

Wait, wait a second @ 12:37 how does it know someone scanned the QR code?

[@MikkoRantalainen]

When somebody uses the QR code, their phone will contact the server encoded in the QR code and the server can report back to the feed.

[@bradrobinhancock8491]

Man, the graphics on the ground look pretty poor in 2024 - almost to the level of X-Plane 12. The servers must not be loading well, and it is running on default loading. If only MSFS 2020 flight models were as accurate as the X-Plane (or even MSFS-X) are. What was the runway heading again? 268 or 269? What type of sim hardware (yoke, rudder pedals, throttle quadrant, peripherals) are y'all using?

[@wololo10]

Is this the PMDG 737?

[@Ic0n0gr4phy]

No this is the 737 produced by Asobo.

[@Fubar_The_WEF]

I wonder if you leave the anti-icing on does the simulator simulate the engines falling off?

[@MaVaLa-um2lu]

Good one.😅 But no need here, the sim is not using the new engines anyway. 😅

[@cageordie]

Wow, this frame rate and the instantaneous resolution when you pan are both terrible. I see the resolution improves after a while. Is this typical for MSFS? Or is this hardware limited, or due to the streaming technology? I am currently flying an E190 in XP12 at 3440x1440 resolution and 60fps and it doesn't matter how fast I look around, the cockpit is sharp. I use an i714700K and RTX3070. I have not used any recent MSFS, I was disappointed too many times in the past. Try not to take the question as a personal attack. Did he say he can't set the transponder? This is confirming what I expect, the outside looks great, but the inside doesn't work so well. I usually fly Toliss A320neo or A321XLR inside the US and B763 or B772 for international flights. I am used to all systems being modeled. A lot of people use the Zibo 737-800 which is supposed to be very good too, and is a free add-on. Navigraph planning is Simbrief isn't it? Same company now. I have been a subscriber for years and it was game changing.

[@ethanvoo7627]

The frame rate and resolution is due to the new streaming technology they have, in msfs2020 the frame rate and resolution was mostly dependent on your own pc specs.

[@jezzdavis9059]

I'm having no problem personally..and yes mainly due to streaming, however serious tweaks with knowhow are required in the graphics settings.

[@fingerhorn4]

What comes across from this video is that the cockpit graphics are underwhelming, despite what they say. Strange colours on the PFD and a distinct lack of crispness on the whole panel. Motion is stuttery and the scenery looks washed out and blurred. Not a good advert for FS2024. FS2020 delivers much sharper content and the cockpit lighting is very much better.

[@karolinaC1997]

Isn’t Ben afraid? XD

[@sebastian_j]

Well, after years of watching your videos, and hoping an input about MSFS 2024, I couldn't be happier about your input. We paid to be beta testers (and paid someone's end year bonus for closing Q4 according to expectations). Thanks a lot Petter for so much, I enjoy all of your videos here and in Mentour Pilot (I don't subscribe to Patreon because while I reckon it's not too much money, here in my country -Argentina- things are a little bit complicated, but if I'm ever able would be an honour to have a chat with you). Thanks for so much.

[@roberttudor455]

I wouldn't get on that plane, even on a simulator lol

[@FindLiberty]

That's going a bit too far, unless you are stress adverse.

[@sabatasello5478]

is it me or the guys didnt report leaving 3000 ?

[@MikkoRantalainen]

37:40 Petter needs to visit an optician after the flight?

[@rolandk9860]

I know (i think) itis not what you guys said, but i keep hearing "Butt Air"

[@flyin_with_ryan]

Let’s see what the Mentour has to say about the plane that the A330 Driver said was unflyable.

[@andy70d35]

A330 Driver, Emi already explained that the REAL 737 Max would take off as the trim was in the green, but this pile of junk has so many faults.

[@mdhazeldine]

An absolutely fantastic demo of a terrible plane. lol. iFly can't arrive in 2024 soon enough. Really looking forward to their MAX8-200 (Ryanair) variant.

[@JamesH-uniquechannelname]

Thing is, if you have a 15 year old kid and are going to buy them a Christmas pressie (and you should!!! - 'cos they're almost probably worth it), which flight sim package would you buy?

[@Demnier]

Felt like MSFS 2020 never quite left beta in terms of avionics, systems, and terrain (not really handling bridges well).

[@Great-Documentaries]

LOL! Best simulator of any kind ever made by humans.

[@quickdrifter6352]

You should have flown with the iFly Max 8…that is a fantastic plane 😉

[@Great-Documentaries]

No. They flew with the aircraft included for free with the new sim. That's exactly the right 737 for them to fly.

[@quickdrifter6352]

@@Great-Documentaries Why 😳

[@bobwelo]

[@marcosavila8215]

wow the lagging is from MS, im disappointed, i really am, and im happy with the refund i will wait some months and then buy it till than i have my 2020 with the pmdg working like a charm

[@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi]

MSFS 2024 is boring, I bought the aviator edition and its missing the flight simulator feel and more a grind daily to get anywhere game.... Theres no reason why we cant free play missions, also half the buttons in the cockpit dont work in most aircraft. dont buy the expensive version if you get it. the invuilt aircraft and cockpits are garbage.

[@MrGeneralScar]

Well it's Microsoft... the small indie game company that charges everyone the premium price to beta test thier games. So far every video I have seen of FS2024 has given me a nagative view of the game, not sure I will bother with it