Mercedes-Benz C350 *MANUAL* W203 263.519KM // REVIEW on AUTOBAHN

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00:00 Walkaround
01:58 Engine
02:43 Interior
03:40 Test Drive
06:50 Autobahn
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Пікірлер: 202
@augustortiz
@augustortiz 21 күн бұрын
Owner has good taste
@Kurtmind
@Kurtmind 21 күн бұрын
Definitely
@ricofernandes3443
@ricofernandes3443 21 күн бұрын
@erikgundersen1
@erikgundersen1 20 күн бұрын
And that's no AMG package 😮 And still looks sexy 👍
@tntxxplosive
@tntxxplosive 15 күн бұрын
How do you recognise the amg pack ?​@@erikgundersen1
@erikgundersen1
@erikgundersen1 15 күн бұрын
@@tntxxplosive So easy!AMG pkg is one to one with full body kit from C32 AMG ( front&rear bumper+ special fat side skirts) and also sport break system.Look at the pictures and you will see big difference 🤔
@user-nj4en2br6e
@user-nj4en2br6e 21 күн бұрын
Ah yes ! Back when the numbers “E350” actually meant you had a 3.5 litre engine These days a c63 is actually a c20
@user-bd6xo9ld2d
@user-bd6xo9ld2d 21 күн бұрын
Yes and the new one after that is going to be like a Tamagotchi where you need to charge the batteries or replace them.
@MMKnight_1
@MMKnight_1 21 күн бұрын
Embarassing
@michaelavilov3443
@michaelavilov3443 21 күн бұрын
Back then, same generation and engine, getting an E280 meant you got a 3.0 and the E230 got you a 2.5
@user-nj4en2br6e
@user-nj4en2br6e 21 күн бұрын
@@michaelavilov3443 even better! 👍👊
@bvedant
@bvedant 21 күн бұрын
ackchyually it would be a c20 kompressor 😂
@badrc350
@badrc350 21 күн бұрын
Hi Martijn, Thank you so much for the awesome review of my car. I'm very happy that you enjoyed the car as much as I do and will definitely hold on to it. The clutch was replaced a year ago, unfortunately the set that I got wasn't the best... She needs a few minor adjustments here and there and will try my best to make her as perfect as possible. It's a blessing to own this car.
@topg2820
@topg2820 21 күн бұрын
Lovely car, she is very well maintained, good job
@badrc350
@badrc350 21 күн бұрын
@@topg2820 Thanks man 👍🏼 I will definitely continue to maintain her and keep her as perfect as possible. 😁
@thememedealer5301
@thememedealer5301 21 күн бұрын
​​@@badrc350Very good taste my guy, hopefully one day i will be able to buy one of these, how reliable are they?
@badrc350
@badrc350 21 күн бұрын
@@thememedealer5301 Thanks, hopefully you will find a good one. Reliability wise it is quite good. The M272 engine has timing chain and balance shaft issues, but the facelifted cars like mine don't have those problems anymore. Good maintenance is key for longevity. Overtime however (with every engine regardless of the manufacturer) the chain will stretch and will need to be replaced. Nothing lasts forever unfortunately. Rust is unfortunately a big issue with the C-Class (many other models aswell of the time) like the rear subframe had holes in it (replaced under warranty by Mercedes) and the doors are also prone to rust like mine. They are also covered under the warranty, however there is a twist. The car must be serviced by an authorised Mercedes dealership in it's entire service history. Mine was last done in 2016, so my request was declined for new doors. All in all I would definitely recommend this car. It has it's flaws, but which car doesn't? 🤔
@bvedant
@bvedant 21 күн бұрын
This video reminded me that my 330i is enough and I can have a lot of fun with it without looking for cars with more power
@Carlifurafollas
@Carlifurafollas 20 күн бұрын
No plasticky fake vents, no silly giant screens…just a well made car to enjoy with adequate power!
@hayopai9070
@hayopai9070 21 күн бұрын
Boy I love N/A V6 engines, own a CLK 320 ('98) myself. Please show us more of those late 90s early 00s cars.
@Bruinou19
@Bruinou19 16 күн бұрын
Don't sell that beast❤
@femountain
@femountain 2 күн бұрын
Late 90 and early 00 was the peak of the evolution of almost all car brands😢
@annemllerpetersen1929
@annemllerpetersen1929 21 күн бұрын
That car with a manual is a unicorn🦄 Sound is awesome!
@hampfrii2g406
@hampfrii2g406 21 күн бұрын
Thats a Mercedes!
@asifnoaman8978
@asifnoaman8978 21 күн бұрын
When cars had soul and character. Other Fast V6 cars such as the mondeo ST220 and Vectra OPC/VXR are also a rare sight nowadays
@freshjive818
@freshjive818 19 күн бұрын
This car is stunning and the build quality on these is top tier. something mercedes gets right is its materials somehow they never seem to age and always look fresh. i have a C350 CDI estate (W204) its just over 300bhp and 700nm. its an absolute sleeper of a thing and still looks brand new inside and out even after 160k miles. this W203 really impressed me and has aged very well.
@tw1st3d35
@tw1st3d35 17 күн бұрын
W204 class is one of my favourites. Timeless design that will still turn an eye in a couple of decades. Just like the W203 and possibly, for those who know, the W202. We had a C180 W202 and that thing was indestructible. Had well over 200k km with a replaced instrument cluster so God knows how much it had. Rusted through but it ran and drove well over 200km/h.That C180 was what made me fall in love with old Mercs. I have a BMW E46 and while it's a fun car, I'd much rather have the reliability of the older Mercs.
@AaronRandolphChen
@AaronRandolphChen 20 күн бұрын
Not only do I love the N/A 3.5 liter V6, but it's so good to see analog gauges with crisp clear markings. Love this era of Mercedes. Excellent video, guys! I love it.
@yungg8015
@yungg8015 21 күн бұрын
had a 2014 c350 the car really doesnt stop pulling at the top end.!!!!
@pipepires
@pipepires 19 күн бұрын
what surprises me most is that people are still surprised by the older Mercs! they are quality built cars and feel as new even after many years....i know the smell of an old Merc, smells of quality 👌
@SDav21
@SDav21 15 күн бұрын
Yes! My dad has a 2004 C220 CDI and it has enough technology that it still feels modern and actually drives better than most modern cars anyway.
@markdonalds7735
@markdonalds7735 20 күн бұрын
I had a c230 sport from 2007 till i almost died in it in 2014 where it ended up as a ball of scrap.. it was a very nice car to drive but a nightmare to maintain everything in it would cost me a fortune to fix or replace … im glad it finally found peace and went back to its original form.
@SDav21
@SDav21 15 күн бұрын
This was the best C Class ever made. The Facelift W203. It is so well made. So solid and great interior build and material quality. My dad has a 2004 C220 CDI which now has 380,000 kms on. It drives so smooth and the interior still looks new. It is unbelievable. My sister, who is not a car person, recently got taken home from the airport in the new C Class using Uber. She messaged me because she knows I am a car person and she said that the C Class she was in (the new W206) doesn't feel as luxurious as my dad's 20 year old C Class. The first thing she said was that the new one feels cheap and not as solid. It is crazy how far Mercedes as a brand has fallen. The quality details on the W203 were like no C Class after it. Like the seals that go all the way down the front part of the front doors whereas in Mercs after that generation it did not. The piece of trim on the lower part of the door that slots into another rubber seal at the door sill. It is probably why it is quieter than the W204 I had. More seals. The roller shutter that covers the gap behind the steering wheel whereas new Mercs use a cheap piece of loose vinyl. So many other small things that make the car feel so great compared to generations after it. Love the W203 so much.
@MrAndreCoutinho
@MrAndreCoutinho 2 күн бұрын
The W204 is miles better, the w203 is only worth as a post facelift model.
@SDav21
@SDav21 Күн бұрын
@@MrAndreCoutinho The facelift W203 is better though. I had a W204 and still have a W203. I sold th le 204 after 11 months because I hated it. Worse build and material quality and terrible ride compared to the 203. My 204 had rattles the 203 doesn't have and didn't ride anywhere near as smooth or quiet.
@nikolasantamaria9335
@nikolasantamaria9335 21 күн бұрын
Croatia jumps for excitement! Finally, real cars🤩😍
@rootsmanuva82
@rootsmanuva82 18 күн бұрын
The engine and exhaust sounds like a muted Nissan GT-R. Sounds great, could use a tiny bit more bark to bring out that baby GT-R sound.
@honorbringer
@honorbringer 21 күн бұрын
Great video and car. Definitely appreciate the affordable car reviews way more, keep it up!
@RothBeyondTheGrave
@RothBeyondTheGrave 20 күн бұрын
M272/273 is so underrated. I've had a 3.5L m272 in a c207 E350 coupe for over 4 yrs now & it is such a perfect daily. My sister has the 2.5 in this same chassis & is also great. It literally doesn't stop pulling & actually seems angry/disappointed when you let off of it. It will sit at top speed w/ a smile & actually seems more smooth the harder it's pushed. Low end torque has me overtaking people on the hwy near 100mph & not touching 3k rpm. Stupid easy to wrench on as well ✌️🤘
@IvanSlivan
@IvanSlivan 21 күн бұрын
Wow this car actually pulls, totally did not expect that
@audir866
@audir866 19 күн бұрын
The smell in w203 comes from the lemon grass which was used in seats instead of standard foam
@bekabeka71
@bekabeka71 19 күн бұрын
I had 2003 c180kompressor auto, that thing was absolutely swift and comfortable, had over 300km and was running fine, it used to be so much fun on roundabouts in wet conditions to go sideways 👌🏼 absolutely a undercover car. I always have Mercedes cars since childhood also BMWs but I still have two MLs one body on frame and one is 2012 w166
@normanski7041
@normanski7041 19 күн бұрын
Old Mercedes with manual shift are the real oldschool Kings on the road :D don't they?
@tempestsquall5882
@tempestsquall5882 21 күн бұрын
The topher just released a video of a brand new mercedes that rattles more even without miscellaneous objects in the door.
@f181234
@f181234 21 күн бұрын
This era of Mercedes wasn’t the best in terms of quality especially after the merger with Chrysler
@SDav21
@SDav21 15 күн бұрын
@@f181234 No. Actually this C Class was the best Mercedes ever made. Especially this facelift. It has way better build and material quality than any C Class that came after it. The W205 and W206 C Classes are awful quality wise.
@Serpescu.
@Serpescu. 3 күн бұрын
I had this car with this engine in 2010 automatic gearbox and 4 matic . A beast back then .Blue with silver and black interior, rooftop, big navi and seat's buttons on the doors. I'll never forget it. 272 hp lovely to drive it .
@hello.gumption
@hello.gumption 17 күн бұрын
It's probably underappreciated and underrated because they're really hard to find in most markets.... hence no one talks about them. Very rare to find this combo. Where I'm from anyway.
@MrAndreCoutinho
@MrAndreCoutinho 2 күн бұрын
People at the time preferred the bmw e46.
@svenlazic
@svenlazic 21 күн бұрын
Sound is amazing
@erikgundersen1
@erikgundersen1 20 күн бұрын
W203 💪 Great Mercedes era,specially facelift version 2004-2006 those cars with a few modes like suspension,wheels still looks awesome 👍😎
@Kurtmind
@Kurtmind 21 күн бұрын
What a clean Merc! 🤍
@KashiwaMoon
@KashiwaMoon 19 күн бұрын
Absolutely perfect.
@FunYl
@FunYl 20 күн бұрын
Impressive performance! Held up pretty well also
@lefora87
@lefora87 7 күн бұрын
immediately I fell in love with it...such a beautiful classic. I'm a bimmer guy but this could be my starting point in owning a Mercedes 🔥🔥
@armx881
@armx881 16 күн бұрын
I have a 2010 Manual C300, I confirm its the best of its kind
@richardohaletse7396
@richardohaletse7396 17 күн бұрын
This is beautiful
@femountain
@femountain 2 күн бұрын
That car is a true gem!🤩
@TheFunkyair
@TheFunkyair 21 күн бұрын
Those were the days
@FranGSainz
@FranGSainz 21 күн бұрын
When MB class C was a "real" MB. I search the specs in Zeperfs and is mind-bending the curves of torque and power, like the gearbox ratios. The weight is 1635kg/3605lb in running order, with 6Kg/PS and 214Nm/T. Awesome Cx=0.27... No more text to write in my opinion.
@executive9224
@executive9224 21 күн бұрын
Amazing Benz.
@SilentRacer911
@SilentRacer911 21 күн бұрын
So unfair we never got the 6-speed Mercedes in North America, I would have loved that car
@abejacobs6345
@abejacobs6345 21 күн бұрын
According to the US brochure there was exactly the same specs car. Never seen any though
@RothBeyondTheGrave
@RothBeyondTheGrave 20 күн бұрын
We did get them, but in very few numbers. I've literally seen one hahaha..... FCP Euro has a spotlight on this same chassis & drivetrain. One of their Mercedes guys (Danny) actually found one & did a few videos on it. There's 6 spd w204's out there too.
@ajstevens1652
@ajstevens1652 21 күн бұрын
A nice sounding engine.
@lolohasan6424
@lolohasan6424 21 күн бұрын
So impressive performance
@abejacobs6345
@abejacobs6345 21 күн бұрын
I also own a 2000s manual V6 Mercedes but 2.6. Agree with every word!
@aktyper7384
@aktyper7384 19 күн бұрын
Very surprised with the 100-200 time seems a very healthy engine
@user-ot3zq5gv7q
@user-ot3zq5gv7q 20 күн бұрын
Max is our favorite!🥰
@Hlze369
@Hlze369 21 күн бұрын
Beautiful
@katlehostebu1549
@katlehostebu1549 20 күн бұрын
This is my dream spec mercedes.
@UpperEchelon8
@UpperEchelon8 20 күн бұрын
This era Mercedes cars were the best looking, proper sedan. 🥰
@spookyreaper1702
@spookyreaper1702 21 күн бұрын
Wow this is a beautiful awesome car. If I owned this I’d give it to my kids one day
@dr.levanpertenava6051
@dr.levanpertenava6051 19 күн бұрын
You are welcome . Please review 2012 or 2013 mercedes C 350 . Your opinion is very important
@lincolnclay-us9nu
@lincolnclay-us9nu 17 күн бұрын
It's a wonderful car!
@keloduma
@keloduma 20 күн бұрын
Reminds me of my Dad's B6 A4 3.0 V6
@chiefslief1886
@chiefslief1886 17 күн бұрын
This is a nice car❤
@johnseniormaluleke4126
@johnseniormaluleke4126 20 күн бұрын
I like the torque converter gummy bear analogy😂
@sandile4492
@sandile4492 2 күн бұрын
most underrated drivetrain.
@ataipacquiao5713
@ataipacquiao5713 20 күн бұрын
This car definitely shows what a Real Mercedes is, sad that modern models don’t show that.
@hendrikchristoph1049
@hendrikchristoph1049 13 күн бұрын
Pretty car !
@arjansack9263
@arjansack9263 21 күн бұрын
Ik ben gezegend met de c204 350 v6 306 pk 2013 . Super auto.
@gwashandmore9258
@gwashandmore9258 21 күн бұрын
Fabulous
@asherbellamy1069
@asherbellamy1069 21 күн бұрын
Nice car
@m.hg.m2910
@m.hg.m2910 20 күн бұрын
my father got c280 2007 360k km and the quality is on point , as you mentioned it smells like old leather till today 😂
@keatonjones6115
@keatonjones6115 21 күн бұрын
Thing is immaculate! and with a few km! Still waiting for the day some one brings you a Mitsubishi FTO GPX type R a long forgotten jdm gem with a 2.0lv6 and mivec revving to 8800rpm its the integra type r cousin and rarely filmed in the wild :P The N/A v6 god in the sound department
@R8andGT3Fan
@R8andGT3Fan 21 күн бұрын
More videos of older cars would be a win, I think...I'd love to see an FTO here!
@Ne0LiT
@Ne0LiT 21 күн бұрын
The W203,W204 and W205 are crazy nice vehicles! Those were the golden days of Mercedes. Wish they'd stop putting so many gimmicks in the newer vehicles :(
@mahmoudabushammala297
@mahmoudabushammala297 8 күн бұрын
I had this car before and till now i missed it. I wish i have it back
@Salpeteroxid
@Salpeteroxid 10 күн бұрын
Had a manual V6 C230 sport edition from 2006 last year as a second car. Decided to get rid of it, but damn do I miss it. It was such a good drifter with the massive angles the wheels could turb.
@catvisimo
@catvisimo 20 күн бұрын
nice color
@manius7048
@manius7048 21 күн бұрын
nice car
@thembankosi3712
@thembankosi3712 18 күн бұрын
Dis car sounds like the old school LEGENDARY Volkswagen VR6
@khanyilemgwebi2575
@khanyilemgwebi2575 8 күн бұрын
Take my money 😍😍😍😍
@forzaitalia85
@forzaitalia85 21 күн бұрын
Very good car my oncle same car in 2007 love it sound engine
@scinner28
@scinner28 21 күн бұрын
I wish i could grumpy old man to it .with al the cars i have..Come on man 2006.Wohoo .And it stil is a sleeper car.even 2024,i wish i bought 1 back in the days 😀.great clip .i bought the bmw z4 3.5is because of your clips.And me and my wife love it till today.But also this car .👍
@_Yaaf
@_Yaaf 21 күн бұрын
I need to drive this Benz to school so bad 😂😂
@user-bd6xo9ld2d
@user-bd6xo9ld2d 21 күн бұрын
That model mercedes is Very comfortable on the road i think with a supercharger it will be a little monster.
@GregB-uc1ky
@GregB-uc1ky 20 күн бұрын
Where's this is Max? We miss Max. ❤
@mitakaaa2919
@mitakaaa2919 20 күн бұрын
You should review a mercedes cls 350 w219/c219
@auwalinuwa2035
@auwalinuwa2035 20 күн бұрын
I miss mercedes
@lucassaucedomonteirodossan2632
@lucassaucedomonteirodossan2632 20 күн бұрын
Very rare vehicle… impossible to find one of these here in Brazil 😒
@DVNY3L
@DVNY3L 8 күн бұрын
4:00 bro had them fake disabled parking cards. 🤣
@AG-jh1ky
@AG-jh1ky 21 күн бұрын
Back in the day i had a E 350 4m and i was envious of direct injected turbos…i sort of felt like It lacked the latest technology. How foolish i was! I would love to have this similar engine with a manual.
@samyesil3390
@samyesil3390 18 күн бұрын
I owned a c32 amg. Please find a c32 amg and take take to max speed. Unreal piece of machine
@Boston2Boca
@Boston2Boca 18 күн бұрын
I have a C32. Funny thing is I saw another one on the road about a week ago. Too bad we were going seperate ways...
@Stern_777
@Stern_777 20 күн бұрын
could you do vid about w208 clk 320?
@SPZ909
@SPZ909 21 күн бұрын
Shame it's debadged. C350 in this gen is rare.
@javifraile7483
@javifraile7483 21 күн бұрын
Could you bring a Mercedes CL203 C350 sportcoupe ??
@bvedant
@bvedant 21 күн бұрын
In the pursuit of the best a lot of us have forgotten what strong power really means
@Mikhail-uv6rh
@Mikhail-uv6rh 20 күн бұрын
Can you try w204 c350
@babkzimi7665
@babkzimi7665 19 күн бұрын
MERCEDES ❤
@chris.1998
@chris.1998 21 күн бұрын
Can you make a video with Bmw 740i e65
@Tonyk24
@Tonyk24 21 күн бұрын
I LOVE SEEING COMMUTER CARS !
@patrikvnencak2923
@patrikvnencak2923 21 күн бұрын
Where in Germany are you doing these test ? Maybe i can offer my car for some video :)
@AndreasFjord
@AndreasFjord 21 күн бұрын
Super xlean C350! Clicked instsntly the moment I saw the title, and wasn't disappointed at all. Looks like it'd be a fantastic daily 😍🤌
@badrc350
@badrc350 21 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for the credits. I drive it mostly on weekends, sometimes during the week if the weather is good.
@oshogweikekhai5499
@oshogweikekhai5499 17 күн бұрын
Is this faster than 2006 e90 330i 6speed?
@markyrd1507
@markyrd1507 18 күн бұрын
Max and Martin have the same voice lol
@mohsentajik7876
@mohsentajik7876 21 күн бұрын
8:54 that is a wow that only a mercedes can make yo do...
@Vox93
@Vox93 18 күн бұрын
Try C32 AMG Kompressor !!!!!
@Christian_2511
@Christian_2511 21 күн бұрын
when are you going to reveal the M3 e92?
@MateoÇela-k4u
@MateoÇela-k4u 12 күн бұрын
Can you do w202?
@tasosvenieris4393
@tasosvenieris4393 21 күн бұрын
Die schnelle Dame Mercedes sager vi🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Ultra_rarE_46
@Ultra_rarE_46 20 күн бұрын
Ayo i literally got those Wheels on my 46 320ci
@KADIRSTYL
@KADIRSTYL 21 күн бұрын
I have C220 CDI T Modell with a c55 AMG Sport Package. Its the Sport Edition. In a very very good condition.
@erikgundersen1
@erikgundersen1 20 күн бұрын
Which Year?
@KADIRSTYL
@KADIRSTYL 20 күн бұрын
@@erikgundersen1 2007 one of the lasts
@erikgundersen1
@erikgundersen1 20 күн бұрын
@@KADIRSTYL wow 😯 nice 👍 good luck 🤞
@mphomankwana4525
@mphomankwana4525 21 күн бұрын
At list they would have used this engines on a new c63 AMG that's how I feel because this v6's sound good the 280 to the 350 and the AMG 32 which sounded way better
@leo4951
@leo4951 12 күн бұрын
Man, inflation really got over the car industry as well... Back in the day a C350 meant 3.5 V6, now a C400 means probably a 2.0 i4 :( so you pay more, have the impression to get more, but in reality you get less
@daidinero7745
@daidinero7745 21 күн бұрын
My c230 was fun to drive just needed more power .
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