Mercedes-Benz EQC Range Test from Oslo to Trondheim! Will it make it with only one charge stop?

[@alamagar]

Hi Kris, Thanks for the range test video. Some tips for consumption: I noticed you were driving without using the regen levers. The display was always showing D, and not D- or D- - (which is max. regen and one pedal driving). From my experience using them, you were be able to get a consumption of 19-21 kWh/100, at 90-110 km/h. You were using driving mode E(conomy) which does not add as much range as regen. You could be driving with mode C(omfort) combined with D- instead. You have as well mode D Auto, which uses real time conditions, destination and SOC to decide on more or less regen. On the other hand, using the heating adds a noticeable level of consumption. Charger Suggestions for the route seems a bit odd to me as well, always being too conservative and preventing to go further than 10% of remaining battery. And yes, the Mercedes voice assistant always surprise me 😉 Additionally I would like to know your thoughts about interior quality, driving comfort, noise and auto driving features compared to your e-tron, as well as power and acceleration, but maybe you did not test it being a range test. If you are going to have the car for a week you can plan those additional tests. I look forward your next videos!

[@marcusbiller867]

How can you get more range from regen, driving at constant 100km/h. This doesn't make any sense, the car will barely regen... Regen is only useful in the city or downhill.

[@christopherritsch1494]

12:27 - the NAV is suggesting you to stop because in the NAV setting you can set the arrival SOC and i believe it is not set to 3% ;) - but you can change that setting or switch it off

[@christopherritsch1494]

by the way: you get back the chrarging display (speed, %, etc.) when pressing the left ok button on the steering wheel (sometimes you have to press 2 times).

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks, I'll try that when I make the return video :)

[@philipclaeys6920]

That is great info, I'll try it tomorrow. Thanks for this info! 👍

[@fsb6406]

Excellent video Kris. One comment, if you stop to charge in Alvdal or Hanestad at 50kw chargers (spending maybe 25 minutes extra) instead of Elverum you can do the trip with 1 charging stop even at colder temperatures and with a lot of % of battery left at the end of the trip. Stoping to charge with 50% battery is not the best way to drive long distances for normal people (it works in races between you and Bjørn though). Keep doing great videos ;)

[@KrisRifa]

You make a good point, but I thought I would manage to go from Elverum to Klett without charging. But we will see what strategy I try on the return trip next week! Stay tuned 😊

[@estabien5563]

Fernando Kris stopped at Elverum also because it is the last high power charger , more than 50kW, on the route he shose. Yes, he could make the trip with one stop, but Kris didn,t know that the car would carge at reduced power. But if trying to drive with only one stop, it is perfectly posible.

[@gery4870]

Cool video Kris !!

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks a lot!

[@jerrycaughron7378]

Excellent review

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks!

[@bartvanhoof6278]

Is there a way to change the display to something more elegant regarding colours/composition etc. it is all very garish ... e.g. at 12:21 approx there's white red, yellow, green, greyish/green (the middle navigation bit), blueish (the EV stuff on the right) ... a racing finish-flag checker thing at 180 km/h (I assume max. speed for the vehicle), weird lines radiating out from the speedometer centre etc. ... it is even crazier at the end with all the warnings lights on (tortoise mode etc.) ... my car has Elegance/Performance/Eco options and with each option, the overall colour pallet is present everywhere ... also, the speedometer is not in full focus at the extremes away from the current speed (e.g. everything 160+ km/h is very muted in tone when driving 90.) ... all more pleasing on the eye and doesn't distract/tire your eyes during long trips.

[@christopherritsch1494]

yes, you have 3 designs to chose from and also the display in the middle and on the right you can change the content.

[@omelvold]

Nicely documented and well made video, pleasant to look at. The IONITY charger at Alvdal will be a huge improvement on this route. When is it going to be finished!? Alvdal is 175 km. from Klett, Trondheim and 295 km. from Furuset, Oslo though. Meaning you may actually have to top up 5-10 mins. at Circle K Minnesund or IONITY Dal. Not really a problem.. Espa is also an alternative. Especially going north. Arrive with lower SoC and get some buns.. 🙂 An upgrade of the 50 kW Fortum charging station at Shell Koppang would have been nice. Make it at least two shared 225 kW chargers. Or fast charging at The Big Silver Moose, right in the middle. 😄 Even Rena would work. Closer to Oslo where you have the most motorway.

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks a lot! Yes, Ionity Avldal will be a very nice improvement :) I think sometime this year, but not when exactly.

[@omelvold]

@@KrisRifa And it’s up and running! 😀 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jn3MhKl7ptl8mpo

[@mcchuddies]

Hey Kris, i think you miscalculated the battery capacity when basing it off what the Ionity charger showed. The charger will show what it has delivered but that does not equate to what the battery consumed! As your good friend Bjorn would say 'there will be losses between charger and battery'!

[@Hiltsuk1]

Great video good job

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks :)

[@DES0MX0]

Hi Kris, one question - why not charge half -way or wherever the nearest supercharger is, coinciding with ~5-10% SOC remaining (the first charge stop). Or was the closest one the one you used? Because it seems that charging already while battery still has >50% left delays both the charge curve, so increasing time spent for charge, as well as needing to stop again rather soon through the journey

[@KrisRifa]

Good question and I should have made this clearer in the video. There is only one HPC charger between Elverum and Trondheim, and that is the one in Elverum and that’s why I stopped with only 53% SOC. I thought I would manage to go from Elverum to Klett without charging, so that also why I stopped there. We will see on the return trip Mercedes week if I try a different strategy 😊 So stay tuned 😊👌

[@markbenzos1631]

My opinion,on EV AWD is waste of energy.

[@omanideiumm]

is there a posibility to test an GLE 300E or 300DE and do similar test(of course on a shorter route)?

[@OPERACIONUFO]

What is the app you’re using to plan the route with the stops ?

[@KrisRifa]

It's called A Better Routeplaner :)

[@dibeerwolf1645]

And how is the comparrison to the e-tron ?

[@christofferpontusson885]

Hur lång tid tog det att ladd från 54-100% första stoppet?

[@danieljakovleski1297]

Daytona black bezel ceramic goes well with the Merc :)

[@johnstraylia9982]

Oh what happened jd power dependability survey?

[@ram64man]

For quality how do you rate the eqc against your car?

[@philipclaeys6920]

Kris, great review. But you should have made better use of the regeneration / coasting capabilities of the car ... that lowers the consumption. I am sure you could reach around 21 kWh/100 km.

[@KrisRifa]

Thanks! I drove the car almost 100% on the adaptive cruise, so the car should and would figure out on it's own better than any human the most efficient way to recoup energy and when to coast. Remember that around 20-40% of travel on the brake pedal of any EV is regen. So you don't have to have regen "activated" for the car to regen.

[@philipclaeys6920]

@@KrisRifa D Auto: Radar-supported recuperation taking road and traffic conditions into account, or intelligent and anticipatory recuperation with ECO Assist .

[@serkankarakaya1651]

Calculating battery capacity from charging station don't give exact result. Charging loss has to be considered. Right?

[@KrisRifa]

Well, this is how I have understood it (i may be wrong though): Gross Capacity: Total battery size, for example 85kWh. Net Capacity: This is the actual usable capacity of the battery, and done so there is a safety buffer and also room for some degradation. This is also the amount of electricity you are able to put into the battery, thus Net. Heat Loss: When comsuming electricity there will be heatloss, in the same way there is heat loss when turning gasoline into forward momentum (80-65% heatloss), there is heatloss when loadning a battery while it discharges. In a gasonline car, all the fuel that is used is calculated as comsumption, heatloss is not a term used in combustion engined cars. But when an EV calculates consumtion, only the actualy electricity used for forward momentum (including drive train loss) is calculated, and for some reason heatloss is not. So this is therefor electricity that "disapears. Therefor the amount the charged is giving the car can be calculated to estimate the net capacity of the battery.

[@raylab77]

What charge speed did you get at Klett? (Peak)

[@KrisRifa]

103kw :)

[@estabien5563]

Hi Kris I think you are calculating the nett battery capacity the wrong way in the video. You are looking at what is given by the charger. This is not what is going into the battery. That is why you get so high numbers.

[@KrisRifa]

Well, this is how I have understood it (i may be wrong though): Gross Capacity: Total battery size, for example 85kWh. Net Capacity: This is the actual usable capacity of the battery, and done so there is a safety buffer and also room for some degradation. This is also the amount of electricity you are able to put into the battery, thus Net. Heat Loss: When comsuming electricity there will be heatloss, in the same way there is heat loss when turning gasoline into forward momentum (80-65% heatloss), there is heatloss when loadning a battery while it discharges. In a gasonline car, all the fuel that is used is calculated as comsumption, heatloss is not a term used in combustion engined cars. But when an EV calculates consumtion, only the actualy electricity used for forward momentum (including drive train loss) is calculated, and for some reason heatloss is not. So this is therefor electricity that "disapears. Therefor the amount the charged is giving the car can be calculated to estimate the net capacity of the battery.

[@estabien5563]

@@KrisRifa Tallene du leser på Ionity laderen kommer fra 2 kilder. Prosenten, i dette tilfelle i videoen vises 98%, gis av bilen. Resten: min, kWh og kW, er tall fra Ionity laderen. Dermed kan du ikke beregne netto kapasitet ut i fra disse tallene. Resultatet blir feil og det er derfor du har så høyt tall for netto kapasitet. Spør Bjørn neste gang dere treffes, dette er lettere å forklare muntlig.enn over en chat :-) Liker testene dine, og spesielt at du ikke er redd for å kjøre batteriene ned til lav %. Dette er det ikke alle som gjør og det er fint å se hvordan bilen oppfører seg når SOC er lavt.

[@kitchendog]

Just push a button on the left side of the steeringwheel, and the charge screen will wake up again. But I agree that its annoying. Love the car but the navigation is so bad here in Norway atleast, that I will almost go as far as to call it useless. Hope they update it soon.

[@christopherritsch1494]

What is the problem with the Nav in Norway? Here in Switzerland all is fine. I like the automatic OTA updates (in your home country).

[@kitchendog]

@@christopherritsch1494 It takes the most stupid routes. If there is any kind of roadwork, it refuses to use that stretch even if traffic flows like normal.

[@philipclaeys6920]

@@kitchendog have you electric intelligence active? If not than dynamic route guidance is active and alternative routes as well ... I filled a complain for this. It should work combined with electric intelligence.

[@kitchendog]

@@philipclaeys6920 I have turned of EQ routes, that made the route choices much better.

[@philipclaeys6920]

@@kitchendog indeed, but the SoC percentage at destination is usefull info, and adding the charge points also ... I have filled a complain, let see what happens. Maybe you should do the same, the more complains, the better ... maybe they improve the system.

[@anonymous-do5bs]

Im predicting that in the future, the roads will contain technology to charge electric cars, similar to phone wireless charging. So u will never need to stop

[@therandomtester9561]

That tech actually is here already. My prediction on that is it will be to expencive. Also with better/bigger batteries, and 150+ kw, do you really need to charge while driving?

[@nirbhaysingh5002]

Love your videos from India

[@KrisRifa]

Thank you so much 😊

[@GmailUnited]

What type of Asian are you? I’m assuming Chinese?

[@Cobnapint]

What a ball ache,. And that's in a country that's EV friendly.