Mercedes CLE 450 driving REVIEW - the return of the 6-cylinder!

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►Follow us on Instagram @autogefuehl and @thomas.letsgo ►Subscribe here: kzbin.info 00:00 Mercedes CLE Coupé in Patagonia Red 01:43 Length and design 03:10 Suspension and rear-axle steering 04:01 Lights and colors 04:51 CLE Cabriolet comparison 06:45 Interior: doors 07:38 Seats and comfort 09:16 Cockpit 10:11 Instruments and infotainment 11:31 Fake sound 12:45 Rear seats 14:45 Trunk / boot 15:05 Cabriolet interior and trunk 15:48 Engines 16:26 Acceleration and driving CLE 450 19:03 Motorway comfort 21:48 Dynamic driving 25:20 Fuel economy 26:28 C-Class or E-Class? #Mercedes #MercedesCLE Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.

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[@mart_en]

I had the chance to sit in the new CLE at the Munich auto show last weekend. I couldn't believe what I saw and more importantly noticed with my fingertips. The entire interior consists of hard pack plastic materials ! Only the top part of the dashboard and doors have soft touch surfaces, everything else in the car is made of hard materials, unbelievable. If you sit in the passenger seat your left knee leans against the hard pack centre console, your right knee is hitting the hard plastic gloves compartment and your hands feel the cheap materials of the door. This car will easily sell for 70.000 € but quality wise the new coupe won't have more soft touch surfaces than a VW Golf or ID3.

[@SDav21]

I totally agree with this. The new C Class and GLC is so disappointing. It isn't fitting for a car of this price. The new Chinese vehicles have better quality interiors.

[@Gojo1911]

@@SDav21the Chinese brands also don’t give a f about labor laws, hence they can add things and still keep the prices comparatively low.

[@Jad-uu8nu]

I agree I do not understand why they persist with the nasty piano black plastic

[@gto6254]

Excellent review, Thomas! Very informative comparison with the outgoing C-Class and E-Class coupés. It is a bit sad that after waiting 22 years for a true E-Class-based coupé to succeed the wonderful C124, we only had the elegant C213 for a short 5-6 years. If I am not mistaken, this is also the first time since the W111 Coupé in 1961 that the Mercedes line-up does not include a coupé without B pillars. Unfortunately, the market has spoken and those cars are just not profitable enough, but we should be happy there are still coupés to be found in the sea of SUVs we find on the highways...

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[@javiermarques4657]

I agree, but let´s not forget that the UE's thread on manufactures, forcing an expensive electrification which the market does not want, has forced them to cut cost dramatically, hence I think this is the main reason niche cars are being discontinued.

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@@javiermarques4657 Yes, that is certainly true.

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[@likeasambud9817]

Nothing E about this. Its just a C coupe and should have been named as such. No pillarless windows is an absolute tragedy. The 2018 E coupe bodyshape with the two lines LED headlamps will always be the most beautiful E class coupe created. Even the midcycle facelift ruined it with just the two dots on the headlamps.

[@blackfieId]

Hey you just described my car :D I agree fully with you that this CLE is a fail when viewed from the E-class customer base.

[@speedsociety9177]

This is not an e class though

[@gto6254]

I've owned one since 2018, and I absolutely love it. Beautiful design you always look back at after leaving the car, driving refinement, lowering all the windows for a spirited drive, beautiful interior with a thoughtful combination of screens and analog buttons, etc. Had considered selling it after the extended warranty goes out in 2 years, but there's nothing on the market right now that would be a good replacement, at least this side of a 3-4 times more expensive Bentley. I may have to turn it into a collection item...

[@meltinsr]

The c207 version or last e class coupe is not the same as sedan w212 or w213 , from the front under car all parts are from w204 , they share similar parts from both w212 and w204 but the base is mostly based on C with e class interior etc.

[@roadmappsycho6290]

I think part of the reason this exists is to upswell what would’ve been c class owners as it’s effectively a c class with a higher price point for a few extra things.

[@LearnAboutFlow]

"Price intensive!" Thomas, you the man!

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[@mikelobb8849]

Wow, the convertible is BEAUTIFUL! Love the matte black paint and love the dash configuration. Simply extraordinary!

[@agnesf2659]

As a current E400 Coupe owner, the new CLE doesn't excite me much. Kind of fed up with MB warranty claims for endless tiny annoying electrical problems, so I'm likely to head for a 992 911.

[@alpenjodel24]

sadly the reliability is not gonna get better with modern porsches. the last reliable german stuff you get are the B58 bmws (or the supra) - other than that I think you should maybe go for a corvette or something like that, these things will last.

[@Carfan678]

@@alpenjodel24 corvette is still a chevy and chevy reliability is questionable

[@SL-eo5pz]

@@alpenjodel24what are you talking about? Porsche is not only neck and neck with Lexus reliability, but you can beat the hell out of their engines and they keep running. Suggesting a corvette is just LOL

[@emiliospowerballer1441]

Whats your economy may I ask?

[@SL-eo5pz]

@@アユミあゆみ-x1k then you just answered your own question, it’s a lemon, and unfortunately you and your friend are outlier cases which is unfortunate because Porsches and German cars in general are a treat to drive when cared for.

[@DaCake2]

This video made up my mind. I’m buying the convertible when it gets released. This is my favorite Benz they made in a really long time and it’s affordable. Can’t wait for it to come out. Thanks for the upload.

[@dash-ryan]

Thomas, your review of the CLE has been the best I've seen so far! Excellent! It may be possible that the AMG version may have adaptive suspension with rear steering for the US market.

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Thanks 🙏 yes that might be possible

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😍 6 Zylinder! Beautiful car and great content as allways. You are the best thomas!

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[@jasonchen4861]

I don't like this car, it's just a C class completely, but trying to pretend to be E class. I am so glad that I can have an E coupe before it discontinues.

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The quality in this video ❤ I'm obsessed. Thanks Thomas Blue 😅 for another great review...

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[@Tyelkormoko]

fantastic job Thomas. Very informative and charming review! As a C238 owner, I am kind of disappointed in the CLE, especially with the interior. I really wished they would have waived the B pillar for this one, but maybe it's time to finally get a convertible. I'll stick with my C238 as long as I can, still nothing coming even close to its beauty and comfort .

[@michaelh4484]

... and made the interior like the all-new E-Class

[@Lances_45]

I still prefer the old e class coupe

[@Kelle128]

Of course since it was way better.

[@blackfieId]

Yeah I agree, I can't imagine this is what E-class customers want

[@JohnyMcNeal]

Although I like this new one old E class coupe had much much better looking shape from profile, especially the part after B pillar, it screamed heritage. This one screams "C class made to be under E class". Still, good engeenering and looks good imo.

[@geneom3251]

I totally agree!!

[@yvesalepin3486]

Likewise!

[@breschlenggsaelz5613]

First 😂 Nice review, nice car And glad that there is a 6 cylinder option

[@Florislaurens]

Thanks Thomas for talking us through this fine car! And thanks a lot for demonstrating that this totally non downsized creamy six cylinder engine can very well be pretty economical. Which directly makes the new AMG 63 four cylinder engines appear as a load of H.S. Or B.S. as you will......😂

[@chris8535]

I owned the c class coupe and e class coupe from the previous generation. This appears worse in every way than both by combing the worst of both previous models. It has the interior of the C class and the weight of the e class. What were they thinking?

[@sunnyd5944]

Ironic that the name of the car is CLE, Combination of C clas and E class

[@GeordiLaForgery]

​@@sunnyd5944 Should of called it CRAP this car destined for the junkyard like all modern mercedes. Last real mercedes was the W124.

[@autogefuehl]

I sadly have to agree. Lacking comfort of CClass while being heavy and expensive like an EClass

[@SDav21]

So true. Mercedes has completely lost my interest. I have a facelift W212 E Class and there is honestly not a single new Mercedes I would replace it with. The new Mercs are bad in every aspect. Interior build and material quality is poor. And the interior design is a step down from the W213 E Class.

[@JR007x]

I 100% agree with you, as I currently own a '22 AMG C43 (coupe). Mercedes missed the mark for sure, sadly.

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[@colinrenfrew48]

Excellent review. Again!

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[@annecy49]

La ligne du coupé est tout simplement magnifique. Bravo Mercedes.

[@baronvonjo1929]

I found a article saying the reason so many german car makers make fake exhaust pipes is customers were complaining about seeing them in the rearview cameras and the smog dirt stuff it would leave on the car that they were sick of cleaning. I do see lots of older german cars with real exhaust tips seem to always be filthy.

[@ThePussukka]

That's not an argument for fake exhausts, that's an argument for no exhaust pipes at all. Just do that rather than putting in useless chrome pieces that are to mimic an exhaust from a far but that just look retarded up close.

[@igyoutubechannel]

The colour combination of the convertible is insane🤯

[@YYZ-SRQ]

Car seems more C class but at E class pricing, like the old CLK. I think the sum of sales volume of the previous C class coupe and E class coupe will be greater than this one size fits both. Buy a 440 or A5

[@DavidRCohen-rv2cc]

The looks/design of this new CLE coupe is close to the C class coupe which does not compare to the E class . The current 2023 and no longer available E coupe is a unique looker, with a flowing and beautiful design. But I understand, coupes do not sell in significant numbers and for the sake of economics, "the machine demands a sacrifice". Cheers Thomas, your reviews are wonderful, many thanks, David.

[@7krys]

In Paris speed limit has been decreased to 30 km per hour. Cars will be beeping constantly there! Concerning this model, I preferred my old Clk. The design of the rear without fake exhausts was better. And the older models had a real 5.0 V8 which made a distinctive rumble.

[@ThibaultxDxCx]

8:39 I drive a C-Class with the nappa leather seats. By far the most comfortable seat I’ve sit in, even for long trips.

[@DrMS96]

Also bring drive review of Cabriolet with roof down & tell us all about Engine sound , wind curtain ❤

[@sakurazero3641]

Thank you for finally convincing me to buy a benz. I need angrybird in my car 😂. Car looks pretty good. But I have to agree the black plastic stripe on the rear looks bad. This video made me remember again when they announced the car someone said. The new cle the c Class for the price of the e class.

[@khayman9574]

Best channel of its kind I know about; thank you for your efforts, always. Oh, yeah, the actual car: well, what can I say? I can't even look at this thing without my eyes bleeding, especially its interior. My 2p

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[@TheEvilbyte]

Thanks Thomas! I have the 2019 C43, and tested the new C43, which was underwhelming for the asking price. I will definitely checkout this new CLE when it arrives in Canadian showrooms, though not particularly excited about the synthetic exhaust note pumped through the speakers, and the fake exhaust tips at the rear are disappointing. I'm assuming CLE 53 will fix this :)

[@mhubi2968]

Will cost as much, or even more than the C63

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Thomas, I love your reviews. Please let us know also the materials of the lower part of the doors. You keep missing this.

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We often talk about that but we ll watch out more!

[@SDav21]

This looks very much like a C Class interior. And being a modern Mercedes, it's probably the cheap hard plastic they use in the new C, the GLC and the GLE.

[@rishinarang9966]

Looks good! Hope it's beautiful design will live into the electric era!

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[@moi_noirceur]

I like that you started showing off blinker designs, could you please start showing off also reverse light? In newer cars it's often in some weird position, and I genuinely had no idea where my car will have one until I drove it myself, because not a single reviewer ever showed it. But I think it is important for safety to know at which point others can see it ie. when backing out of parking. Thanks!

[@autogefuehl]

Hm why would that be relevant and in which way?

[@moi_noirceur]

​@@autogefuehlJust added it into the original comment while you were writing - I think it is important for safety, to know when others can see that you have reverse up when you are for example backing up from parking space without good view. Especially in narrower city streets sometimes others have to pass really close to the parked cars and if they can see that you are going to reverse out, they give you space to do it safely. Some cars have it in the main rear lights where that is very easily for drivers passing by, some cars now have it in the middle of the bumper at the very bottom of the car which is much harder to spot. And with everybody using colored leds with transparent covers, it is difficult to say on stationary photos which light slots are for braking, blinkers, reversing light, foglight... GR Yaris for example, but many other cars as well.

[@autogefuehl]

Interesting

[@andrewstevenson6540]

If Santa is reading these comments I've been good this year and a 4 cylinder petrol Cabrio in Thomas blue would be a nice reward 👌

[@musak.4068]

I'm an E450 coupe owner. E class owners wanted more luxuries to come standard in our car. For the price we paid we should have damn near all amenities in our vehicle + longer trial periods with Mercedes services. If we wanted performance we could've gone E53. The CLE is a disappointment because it's essentially a C class coupe. Comes with B pillar and that ugly C class dashboard. I'm holding out hope that the amg variant will have no b pillar, and COLORFUL interiors. COLORFUL interiors (saddle brown) are the only reason I chose e450 over e53.

[@GnubbZn]

7:38 As far as I know you cannot get white seats as artico in the CLE, the white option is real leather only. Which is confusing because in the C Class you can order "Nevagrey" as artico which is more like white, but this isn't available in the CLE.

[@sakichugouken2474]

a cle200 costs in Greece the same as an A35. I'd probably go any day for the A35 than the CLE200

[@beWorldly]

it's got a heavy, luxurious, Bentley like stance and look. I like it.

[@luiss.8460]

I personally like the design of the rear turning indicator. Has something of old times and is very well visible. The rest of the car is beautiful as well and for me it would definitely be the Coupé. I would directly go with the 6-cylinder considering that Mercs‘ 4-cylinders are not that refined and economical. Great work, keep it up! =)

[@ph8077]

I have a 2023 RS5 Vorsprung Coupe...dynamic indicators should be standard on this level of car. Merc should've gone down the same route.

[@tool8337]

I currently drive a current gen E400 coupe and have spent time in the 206 c-class. The new C/CLE interior is unacceptable garbage. Putting aside for a second the ubiquitous corporate components like the piano black surrounding the seat controls and the capacitive buttons (both of which are inexcusable trash), this interior is not even befitting of a Honda from 15 years ago. The hard plastics on the bottom of the dashboard, doors, and the center consoles shouldn't be in any Mercedes, never mind a higher end one. I will say that the MBUX software is excellent, and the matte faux leather at the very top of the door panels does feel great. The CLE, hypothetically for E-coupe customers as well, should have received slightly upgraded materials and an option to delete the piano black center console (c.f., designo interiors of old). Anyway, its a downright shame that they didn't improve the luxury of the C-class this generation. When the 204 and 205 C-classes came out, the A/CLA was not really a viable option because it was so bad. Since those cars have decent interiors for the price, the 206 C-class should have moved upmarket. I see no reason to go for the C over the CLA in the current iteration except for space. The interior quality is the same notwithstanding the price disparity and access to features. Further, the CLA is lighter, gets better mileage, and doesn't have that awful brake pedal calibration. I understand last-gen Mercedes had quality issues (squeaks and creaks) - some of the lower quality in this gen could have been forgiven if they put together better. However, these things are just as bad, if not worse. Overall, I prefer the design language of the prior gen MB, citing the w222 S class, w213 E class, and GT4-door as some of the pretties interiors ever. I would not feel so strongly about the new design language all their models if they got rid of the capacitive touch and piano black. I have heard they might be solving this in the facelifts of each of these. For now, if I needed a new car, I would simply buy an 8-series or last gen MB. I am completely writing off the CLE as it is not a replacement for the E-coupe, but a long C-coupe with more access to features.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks for the interesting feedback!

[@ahemgee9542]

Quite a downgrade in style vs the E coupe. As others have said- its still just a NON pillarless C coupe with a CLA front end grafted on! Mercedes are on a roll with the new model fails.

[@mart_en]

It's interesting, the CLE is longer than the E class Coupé but interior space is much smaller, especially in the rear. In comparison the wheelbase is a bit shorter but just about 8 mm, which shouldn't effect the interior space. However legroom has shrunken by 4,3 cm in the rear which makes you think where all the extra cm went to. Maybe in the frontal overhang, which is now 4 cm longer than in the E class Coupé.

[@visionmodernclassics]

You have to keep in mind that at the trunk a HV battery for a plug-in hybrid has to be implemented..so i guess cost leg space at the rear

[@questionyourself718]

All the extra length went into design. Its really just the little bit extra overhang in the front and the rear that sticks out more because of the "yacht design" as thomas points out earlier in the video.

[@angelzanetti-1947]

Wait so the moonroof doesn’t go back ?

[@golfbuddy1969]

Funny how the 3 big German manufacturers differ when it comes to design detailing. Mercedes exterior and interior look good from distance - eye Candy, but at closer examination look and feel cheaper. Audi could seem safe and boring from a distance, but the details are appreciated more and more, the closer you get. BMW sits in between.

[@texanfournow]

The legs are back in black!

[@mohawk5010]

I drove the CLE450. It’s more nimble than the E, not surprisingly. Interior room isn’t quite as good. Great car overall.

[@dronedad5784]

Love this channel. But can I suggest, any chance you guys could demonstrate what life is like if you install a bulky child car seat

[@artovnoyes8479]

I like the profile. The rear is great looking but agree the indicators would look better in a linear configuration. Shame about the comfort, but the seats may bed in after a few hundred miles. Great to see a new petrol engined car!

[@ingmarlangerak8973]

Amazing looking car! Mercedes delivers again! Thanks for the review!🎉🎉🎉

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks for following!

[@yvesalepin3486]

They done this in between Class when they introduced the CLK years ago. Same situation where it was a C Class more than an E Class… personnalité, I would have cut the C Class coupé and Cabriolet and keep the E Class Coupé and Cabriolet…

[@SDav21]

The CLK was at least a very high quality vehicle even though it was more C than E. We can't say the same for the CLE.

[@michaelh4484]

the CLK also inherited E-Class design, this is more C-Class

[@monk3yboy69]

The CLK A209 interiors were very much on par with a comparable E Class at the time. The same definitely cannot be said here.

[@brianrasmussen2956]

3 l V6, I'm sold!

[@user-rg4dz2kc9j]

i think that the side of new model are very pretty!!

[@1nnu3ndo]

26:40 Bit off topic, but where was this filmed? Looks nice

[@autogefuehl]

San Sebastian area

[@txema4763]

It´s San Sebastián, in front of the KURSAAL Congress Centre and the beach of Gros. The driving along the coast (Getaria, Zumaia, …) it´s really nice.

[@MercOne]

I had a CLK 430 Cabrio years ago and this isn't really a blend like that car was. This car should have had a unique interior that truly blends the C and E with the mega screen being an option. It should have been as roomy as the outgoing E inside and it should have been better looking from the rear. This is a weak effort and it won't change the trajectory of coupe sales at Mercedes-Benz. It's just not enough. This should have been a really special car that makes people want a Mercedes coupe. I4, I6 and V8s should have been on offer. Oh well, the E-Class sedan is far more impressive. As a new C coupe this would have been a hit.

[@peter_is_my_name]

Hi Thomas. You mentioned "tachometer" but you meant "speedometer". You did this the other day as well. Tachometer shows the engine revs, speedometer shows the road speed (unless its a German thing in which case I stand corrected). Overall a good video of course. ❤

[@autogefuehl]

yeah its totally a German thing. The speedometer is the "Tacho" in Germany

[@andras.89]

I'd wish the interior would be non-digital-touchy cheap and boring, would like to operate through fine knobs and well weighted buttons. Also whats with these piano black inlays still? Open pore satin wooden inlays or brushed aluminium are so much more classy

[@zooameba6386]

Great video and comment... have a nice day

[@evol3852]

Cle 300 vs c300? Is there a huge difference between them?

[@marieaudreyduchamp8839]

Thank you for the clarification. I’ve always been confused why a C model would be called E 😂

[@P.Galore]

Much prefer the current E class coupe and convertible. Much cleaner design and a bit larger.

[@Kadrat90]

i must admit your videos are really good, add some acceleration 0-100kmh and you can compare with CarWow

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏

[@autogefuehl]

We dont compare with carwow because we give actual in-depth information on the vehicles 😊

[@toyotaprius79]

20kWh can fit into that?

[@viccionetti5907]

Living in the U.S. I’ve seen many more (‘23 and earlier) C class convertibles than E class. An obvious response would be that the C is more affordable. But I would submit that it has more to do with the C’s more manageable and sporty size. The CLE cab at 191 inches is no longer comparable to the Audi A5, or the BMW 4 Series which I think will turn off typical C class buyers. It sure did for me as I was leaning toward the new CLE convertible..not anymore. This new cabriolet is 6.5 inches longer! (191” vs 184.5”) And, c’mon MB it’s a 2024 model and STILL there’s piano black on the scratch and fingerprint magnet on the center console?

[@marcolini_]

Your intro summarizes the problem with that model. The lack of any storytelling aside (CLE? what is it, a C or an E) where is this car positionned? It tries to target many segments with one car, obviously due to costs reason. The same happened with the AMG GT, it is not a performance car anymore but a 2+2 SL with a roof. This lack of clarity takes appeal and character away, it looks like a potpourri of all the cars Mercedes offers and we are not even talking about the blandness of the engine, dynamics and UI.

[@flyboyflash3184]

Thomas, regarding seat comfort. Living near a BMW plant, I have been fortunate enough to visit the Lear plant manufacturing seats for the BMW X vehicles (and Volvo now too). So, do the vehicle manufacturers provide the design/ergonomic specifications for the seat manufacturers (Lear, Magna, others) to construct the seats? Seems like the seat manufacturers/engineers could provide the vehicle manufacturers with options for more comfortable seats. Perhaps you could shoot a video tour of a seat manufacturing plant?

[@autogefuehl]

Good point, defo the manufacturers give their design and requirements

[@M09O1O]

Since we wont have a next gen CLS I hope that we will get atleast a 4 door coupe version of the CLE

[@autogefuehl]

Probably not

[@sakichugouken2474]

Regarding the stiffer seats: owning the GLA and other german vehicles in past with stiffer seats, they do tend to get softer with time. First months though, indeed they can feel uncomfortable.

[@joseantonios4679]

Thomas, please review BYD Seal! Cheers.

[@AlbertManiscalco]

wish you could still get a manual...its an appealing package

[@NORWAYORNOWAY]

07:59 the rear-seat air vent looks like it is screaming out, "Why me? This cars makes no sense. Why me?!?" Thanks guys

[@sebastientumahai9560]

So no cle 43amg? Or will they also add that later on? Then the big boy 63 amg

[@vipermoon_]

Is the convertible's back seat the same as the coupe?

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Did AJ and Brian leave the @Autogefühl?

[@autogefuehl]

Nope: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poXNYmiNqM99h9Usi=9o9IdO9Ug8-pZPNN

[@autogefuehl]

And here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4SxoYBtpJWHZrcsi=iXpDKBeLxy0gYv2M

[@JKG3108]

But, I just saw that on german konfigurator you can get Sport exhaust U21 with CLE450?

[@philtoni794]

Another great review from the Motoring Mastermind! Personally I like the inside of the Genesis more. It seems automakers are now streamlining combustion engine ranges given their commitment to electrification.

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks my friend!

[@Carfan678]

Ppl forgetting the CLK from the 2000s, that was basically a c class with e class pricing.

[@monk3yboy69]

It was based on C Class underpinnings but the interiors and finishes were on par with the E Class, hence the higher pricing. I cannot agree it was basically a C Class as I have owned a C Class W203 and I still have my CLK A209 . The CLK was not a C Class other than being based on one. That is a fact and CLK owners past and present will tell you the same. A class of its own.

[@akcamelot]

Thomas, again same question as I asked at RS3 test material :-) Would you say this can be more pragmatic choice vs 911 base Carrera ? As fun and more practical vehicle, simply good combination vs 911 ? Pls let me know asap :-)

[@Elisefreqflier]

Where is that? Biarritz?

[@freed14760]

Hello from Olean Ny 14760 USA!

[@autogefuehl]

Best greetings!

[@sakichugouken2474]

Hi Thomas, how was the rear seats in the cabriolet? Same space as with the coupe?

[@autogefuehl]

Ye same

[@kenoh818]

It looks like a CLA coupé to me but at least it has a 6-cylinder. It might be able to compete with BMW now.

[@SDav21]

When will the 6 cylinder diesel come to the new E Class? Will you be able to test it Thomas? I am sad the CLE has an interior from a C Class instead of an E Class. Also, the frames should've been pillarless. This doesn't feel like an E and C combination. More just like a new C Class coupe. That's it.

[@autogefuehl]

Not sure yet m8!

[@stefanmolnar7950]

Thank you Thomas nice on as usually. But its funny that Merc listens to its customers :) but the customers i think do not want horrible fake plastic exhaust covers :) also they dont want 2 liters hybrid engines in the sporty cars. I by the way i do not think that anybody who bought the previous c class coupe wanted more space. They wanted less weight and sportier drive. ITs cost saving in good PR.

[@autogefuehl]

Yep u got a point there

[@barneysman9116]

If the 6-cylinder were non-hybrid, I would be the happiest man on earth.

[@masonwu1703]

Mercedes gives up the most valuable spotlight which is openable rare seat window in E class coupe….

[@Matt_Curlew]

Thanks for the great review. But I don't like the design. The CLA-looking headlights are kinda dated now and also the side profil looks more like a facelift of the C-klasse Coupe and still looks a bit weird and bulky. The proportions of the E-klasse coupe are more stylish. And it gets a bit boring that every front and rear bumper at mercedes are kinda the same.

[@autogefuehl]

thanks keep tuning in !

[@SDav21]

I really wonder what is going on at Mercedes. They seem to be making a lot of bad choices lately fuelled simply by cost cutting and higher profits. I've owned several Mercedes in the past and I honestly feel like my facelift W212 E350 Bluetec will be my last Mercedes. There's not a single new Mercedes that I would want to replace it. I've test driven all of them. And I was left disappointed after every single one. All their new models have really poor interior material and build quality. They used to feel rock solid and built to last forever. And to me, the new E Class interior design is a step down from the W213 interior design. Here, there's nothing E about the CLE. So disappointed in this brand.

[@Jason-ml3vs]

I just don’t understand why anyone would want a matte car.

[@monk3yboy69]

We all know the type that will buy one……

[@rosak9312]

Oh wow so great 👍 and very beautiful 😍❤️ and the engine 🚂🚒 very strong and powerful and very good design with the new 🆕 technology for the new 🆕 generation hument and very easy to drive and comfortable ❤.

[@DBone539]

C coupe drivers will love it while E coupe devotees will feel alienated with the addition of B pillars

[@Pdep90]

The rear reminds me on Infiniti Q60

[@FinancialShark]

I'm going with the 2021 E 450 Coupe then 😂

[@steppenwolf1872]

Beautiful car But that cheap tablet behind the wheel ruins the atmosphere.