Mercedes VS BMW Reliability - Which One Is Junk?

It's time for BMW vs Mercedes Benz when it comes to reliability. The questions we'll answer is whether or not BMW is worth it and whether or not Mercedes is worth it. That's because these luxury cars can depreciate fast or cost you thousands in repairs if they're not reliable.
So is BMW reliable? Are Mercedes reliable? Find out today in our comparison review of these two luxury car brands.
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[@EastWood2004]

This is the one of the best reviews in this channel

[@ECPP]

Thank you very much

[@ThmiiGii]

Same me of my all my mercedes in the past . So here we are brother

[@Dave-fk5bu]

My work colleague worked at the QA dept of BMW in Munich, let’s just say he left due to the problems he saw, pointed out, but nothing was done about it. Be careful of the high performance cars, you’ll be paying for it as they’ll take no responsibility

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@felixbaum48]

I still hit 60mph in under 3 seconds. Zero reliability issues save a door handle.

[@RedPanda_______]

@@felixbaum48 good for you

[@germanengineering204]

​@@felixbaum48Tesla is junk everyone knows it, so go kick rocks kid!!😂

[@yg78t76t7]

@@felixbaum48 when your battery finally degrades, it'll be a nice 10-15k bill

[@emiliog.4432]

Almost every vehicle manufactured today is thinner and cheaper than years past. Cost cutting has led to more plastic and thin body panels. I remember when cars were built like tanks. Porsche is the exception but you pay the high ticket price for that ride.

[@ECPP]

Great point! However I will say Porsche too has become a little too plasticky in places that matter. Still likely the best of the premium brands for durability

[@germanengineering204]

@@ECPP Porsche is king from reliability to performance out of all German brands!

[@michaelbanko9965]

@@ECPPdo you think that Porsche is more reliable than bmw or Mercedes overall because I think that some are better than others

[@henzo7087]

@@michaelbanko9965 No way VW is crap and VW buys the brand in 2012. Porsche has engine problems. Mercedes or BMW only the car to buy for me

[@henzo7087]

@@germanengineering204 Mercedes is better or BMW than Porsche

[@hughb5092]

That was entertaining as always Mark. Your tortured experience with these cars makes for both an informative and enjoyable viewing adventure.

[@germanengineering204]

He continues to torture himself with these unreliable cars to this day lol! Mark drives German cars even know they're supposed to be crap, so what does that itell you?

[@Squall1811]

I used to work at customer experience at a BMW dealership. I was amazed by how much mistreatment the customers would take without complaining. If customers wouldn't accept their crap these makers would actually do something to improve reliability, but people keep buying their crap.

[@troytruong8246]

consumers are dumb.

[@user-gy6jo8yx3e]

My first German car was a brand new 2001 VW Passat; Made in Germany. I had that car for one year and was in the shop 13 times. Three times for the Mass Airflow Sensor, One time for the radio not working, Two times for the Climatronic failing, One time for the T handle hood release coming off when I tried to open the hood. One time for the headliner coming off (No doubt bad installation after fixing the faulty radio antenna earlier). Two times for the plastic wheel bolt covers cracking and falling off. Two times for the EGR valve failing and the last time was for flickering headlights due to a faulty alternator. People told me that VW aka V-DUD isn't a real German car. Get a Mercedes. I looked around and bought a Mercedes E500. In the first year, I went back to the dealer because the rear windows would not roll down. I only rolled those windows down about two times before they failed. Then, while grocery shopping, I put the gorceries in the trunk and went home. Guess what. The trunk latch is electric and it failed. It failed so bad that the key wouldn't even open it because the electric motor driving the lock failed and there is no override. GREAT GERMAN ENGINEERING! I went to drop the back seats to get the gorceries out but guess what, apparently folding rear seats are optional on a $60k Mercedes but standard on a $15k Corolla an my E500 didn't have the folding seat so I had to pull the groceries through the tiny rear armrest trunk access. German cars? NEVER AGAIN. I've only ever purchased Japanese cars ever since.

[@alexhadebe4079]

Me too from bma to Toyota it's been more than 3 years thanks God Jesus Christ Im no longer friends with various machanics

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

If you dont have the money you shouldn't play the firm game

[@user-gy6jo8yx3e]

@@commantrosexetlos4700 99% of people who drive German cars "Don't Have Money" Come down to the west side of Chicago where every single roach infested, drug addicted hood has a shiny German car parked outside of their slum.

[@senianns9522]

I've driven my BMW X4 all over Thailand for the last 5 years! 122,000KM and still no issues! Great car, good COG. I regularly service the car and additionally change engine coolant! No complaints so far--here's to hoping!!!

[@ECPP]

Sounds great what type of engine are you running?

[@senianns9522]

@@ECPP I have the X Drive 2.0 D M Sport twin turbo. Year of Manufacture 2017 / 8.

[@ez7530]

I have chosen exactly the same car 2023 model due to the reliability of BMW diesel engine. There is stats avail. on the internet.

[@zibifranz2429]

Great analysis of both cars! Thank you!

[@ECPP]

Glad you liked it!

[@thomashelm6931]

Great analysis, as always! Very detailed and informative. Given, arguably, a similar comparison, I think that the Benz is a far more attractive car. Beautiful, to all of your points. However, BMW has (shockingly) stepped up in the reliability game. And you do a nice job of pointing it out. But the Mercedes is so beautiful.

[@ECPP]

Great point Thomas. I think the Benz has the best looking cars right now in the German luxury game pretty much in all segments, however the BMW's do seem to hold up a bit better and time will tell on the B58 and B48 reliability. So far, so good.

[@onikai7055]

I don’t know I don’t like the way Mercedes looks.

[@Republic1ders]

I love the panel tests! should do more quality comparisons like this!

[@ECPP]

Thanks! Will do!

[@vokso11]

Great video as always. Just a general opinion: HOW YOU TREAT ( how responsible you are ) YOUR CAR is more important than how much your car can take. Some cars can be more expensive to maintain than others, but ... does it matter if you are prepared for it? It all depends on whether you really value your car and your investment. I know people who own cars that are known to have not-so-great reliability and have been using them for years and still look brand new and have no issues at all. BUY WHAT YOU LIKE AND BE RESPONSIBLE WITH IT. There is no such thing as a perfect car, there is a perfect one for each type of driver.

[@ECPP]

It really helps to care of things

[@Will_14_years_ago]

Then there is the 70s 80s 90s benz turbo diesels. A Perfect car w124 w123 w201 w210 ive owned om606's om617s om engines in general and they truly are great, the latter is at great performance losses lol but its all what you want. Truly they dont build them like this anymore. Ive been a mechanic since 1999 and i can say mercedes can be bad sometimes but the bmws seem to have much more faults in very critical areas.

[@TooHonest4_You]

Not always the case you can maintain these vehicles but they still huge money pits. You won’t see new BMWs or Benz’s on the roads for 20 years

[@nkgudih]

Great vid-but remember, German cars in general are build to fail ( planned obsolescence). Days of Merc build like tanks are gone, and the strategic alliance of BMW & Toyota will improve BMW in reliability focus

[@great_deception]

What alliance, the Supra being built by BMW ?

[@johnma807]

Is the reliability conclusion based on the banging on the body panels and fiddling with the various interior pieces? Component fitment is a factor but when I think reliability, I'm more so concerned about the engine's internals, water pump, oil pump and timing system. Everything else is fairly modular to replace.

[@TheRobert6622]

Btw always love your videos!!

[@8MunchenBayern8]

Mercedes is a lot better in terms of reliability compared to BMW. There’s a reason why E class is taxi is Europe and no BMW is

[@ECPP]

Exactly

[@timothygibney159]

Not true anymore. Scotty kilmore compared a Mercedes to a Toyota and the Toyota was far superior

[@8MunchenBayern8]

We are talking about Mercedes or BMW. Toyota wasn’t a part of this conversation…

[@timothygibney159]

@@8MunchenBayern8 Reliability is part of it. Things like the gas cap and cheap plastic are problems that shouldn't exist in luxury cars. Mercedes loves cheap plastic even in engine parts that break. BMW is going the other way. Toyota and Lexus use far less except in the cabin

[@germanengineering204]

Mercedes is at the bottom of the pile when it comes to German cars, and all the experts say so! KZbin guys like yourself are free to dream up any conclusion they want based on personal preference!🤡

[@francisgomes9976]

Recent BMW such as B58 ,B 48 and S58 are pretty reliable. Even S55 wasn't that bad at all considering it made 450hp

[@michaelschwab9563]

Those Blocks might hold up just fine. Problem is the Entire Car around it is a Complete Hunk of Shit

[@francisgomes9976]

@@michaelschwab9563 shut up and go back to driving your 2005 Honda Civic

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@danielstehura9657]

@@michaelschwab9563 BMW IS A CURSE WORSE THAN DEATH!

[@germanengineering204]

​@@danielstehura9657For poor people that can't afford newer ones lmao!!

[@rogerone7387]

We are BMW enthusiasts forever, no matter what anyone says. Why? Because we take care of our own cars, work on our own cars. Leave the dealer to beaver. Not us. For us again no matter what they say BMW The ultimate driving machine for more than 23 years. Love your channel Sr.

[@ve2430]

23 year old bmws are better than what they make nowadays

[@senianns9522]

I hate going near the BMW 'screw you' ( service people) ! They just 'make you have it'! Do all my servicing at a local independent service center. Family run and honest! That's a good find for me!

[@oneluckystrike001]

Hey Mark, Great channel and look forward to every single video you put up. Also thanks being honest and for keeping us in the know. I have a question for you… Last January I purchase a new 2023 BMW M340i with the amazing B58 engine. Love the car…. I’m planning to keep the vehicle for a very long time. If you were me would you consider buying the extended warranty on the car? BMW is offering me : 4 years extra and unlimited KMS obviously after the original warranty ends 4/80k. For the amount of 6600$ CAN I think it’s a reasonable price…. What’s your opinion? Thanks and take it easy Bill K.

[@oneluckystrike001]

I forgot to mention that I’m in the Montreal area and I drive about 32k clicks a year.

[@user-qf2gq3kr6h]

There are no comparisons between a BMW and Mercedes. Mercedes Are far better and reliable cars.

[@ECPP]

I agree

[@booblam6919]

Benz is the greatest...truth from the heart

[@olympbarca3313]

More reliable cars? What do you smoke? The last years Bmw become more reliable than a Mercedes

[@vinaydivakar6688]

Would be great if you could also do a review on the 4 cylin N43 engines - I have been hearing a lot of mixed opinions about it.

[@ECPP]

That’s fair

[@domk2993]

Great breakdown. I have a 2017 Mercedes-Benz E300 Rwd and I’m at 125k miles and my alternator went out. I’ve never had any issues except tires and brakes and oil changes. As well as the Service A and service B (maintenance). Outside of normal maintenance, I’ve never had any issues with it, although MBis trying to claim that I have an “internal oil leak that is leaking to the ECU - engine control unit, which I call BS.” I believe they just want $5,600. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@RosSauce85]

It might be a real problem, but the stealership still overcharges like crazy. The bi-turbo V8 M278 and M156 are known to leak from the cam sensors and magnets which can cause oil to make its way into and destroy the ECU.

[@blz9204]

clearly the want the 5,600 plus more

[@domk2993]

@@RosSauce85 I have a 4 cylinder. It’s just the regular 2017 Rwd e300….

[@domk2993]

@@blz9204 I agree bro. Seems like they just want the money 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@qupeter1224]

go to couple other shops to check on the issues, if most of the shop reports the same problem you should probably fix it, if dealers are the only one finding the problem we all know the car is fine

[@xvsj5833]

Great update Mark ❤🇨🇦🍺🍺👍Cheers

[@ECPP]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@kwazar6725]

I lost trust in BMW. Too many bad experiences.

[@ColGaddafi]

I intend to buy a BMW 330i in the next few days. What problems did you experience with BMW?

[@MiahVega]

@@ColGaddafiGet a Lexus is350 instead. Reliability is literally unmatched

[@michaelschwab9563]

​@@ColGaddafiO I'm sorry.

[@MaxMustermann-vy7ur]

@@ColGaddafijust don’t buy it. Not worth the troubles…

[@eneskartal4477]

@@ColGaddafihad a 330i for 4 years now the 2019 model no problems

[@backtoshallabal6662]

love your videos on endless money pits!

[@swaggteamdons]

Very unbiased review. Great work

[@f4f471]

my 2018 AMG C43 is a beauty without issues. My Previous 3,5 series BMWs are all crappy after 3 years ....

[@ECPP]

Yes the c43 is a sweetheart of a setup

[@tonyluk112]

Coz the C43 AMG is made in Germany.

[@billnye5183]

My 650i with the N63TU is doing just fine with over 100K on the dash the difference is I take care of it lol with REGULAR maintenance

[@ECPP]

Great to hear, but not everyone has that expeirence

[@drstevej2527]

BMW has really made an effort to improve their cars. They are refining existing systems rather than replacing them with new ones.

[@ECPP]

There have been some improvements

[@rebeltvr6046]

This man must have been a car dealer, mechanic, or engineer. He has very indepth and correct information about cars, and I agree with everything he says.

[@diedd0]

Would love to hear your thoughts and experience with BMW hybrid reliability. How much can one expect in costs over the lifetime of the vehicle? Would you recommend buying a used 530e? etc.

[@olli4528]

I leased a plain 530i (didn’t consider a hybrid for a second) since new, 2018 model. I am pretty amazed by how satisfied I am aboit it, but had my irritations over the years. The rear had a slight camber from the factory, seen from centre tyre wear, there have been issues after some pothole, but I can’t blame BMW for the tiny shudder that comes and goes at higher speeds, an issue that couldn’t be resolved. It looks like new, drives fantastically, but that is keeping in mind I serviced it by the book, at the dealership. I am a fast driver on the motorway (140 kmph in Sweden, and have done several road trips through Germany to Belgium, France, Italy, where I drove the full 200-250kmph. Preferably 210 😀(I’m mainly a nighttime driver). Changing soon for a new 440i, hapoy to get the double of my rest value now, after 5 years and 140k km. I can’t complain, but I spent good cash on maintenance for sure.

[@vintagehaynesflute]

Mercedes Benz today is not the same company I invested in when I bought stock in the late 70’s. The slide began when Juergen Schrempp became chairman and then the merger (purchase?) of Chrysler. Before that cars were built to a standard and after Schrempp they were built to a price point. The new company (Mercedes Benz Automobile group) under the new CEO has no interest in producing ICE cars, only Electrics. 😢

[@frankdong7229]

yep, under the swedish ola

[@vintagehaynesflute]

@@frankdong7229 I’m wondering how long it will be until they stop making and stocking replacement parts for ICE cars

[@jduwayne1]

@vintagehaynesflute: I AGREE WITH YOU 1000%! MERCEDES IS NOT BUILT TODAY FOR LONG-LASTING RELIABILITY…! I OWNED A W116 280SE IN 1979…THEY WERE BUILT TO LAST RIGHT DOWN TO THE DOOR HANDLE…TODAYS MERCEDES ARE ONLY BUILT TO COMPETE WITH FINANCIAL MARGINS! THEY CUT A LOT OF CORNERS! CONCERNED ABOUT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE ELECTRONICS THAT DOESN’T LAST & IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO UPKEEP ALONG WITH MASS-PRODUCED TANGIBLE SUBPAR MATERIALS! THAT BEING SAID, I STILL PREFER MERCEDES OVER BMW!

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@mhassouneh]

Man, your C300 still looks brand new.. Great job!

[@kingjulien9525]

Thank you for the free knowledge.

[@gkrieger6824]

Great video! BMW strayed too far from their roots after the e46 and e90 platform. E46 being the pinnacle in my opinion. Other than the 4cyl AMG products, MB has been more consistent. Isn't the C class more upscale than the 2 series though?

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing!

[@felixbaum48]

E30 FTW!! Sold mine with 300k and was still running GREAT!

[@matthale5526]

3 series and C class would be a better comparison. Or 4 series & c class coupe.

[@2rhythms]

2 series and B class

[@jimmyl.bakerjr.7026]

Good review. I have a 2011 BMW 535i and 125k....zero issues. I have always liked my BMW more than a Merc.

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@markthorpe6847]

I have an old merc c230k from 1997..its done over 300000 miles.still runs fine..a few small issues but nothing that stops the car running..i wonder how many new mercs will do that mileage..

[@ECPP]

Work horse indeed

[@mrlaw711]

I've had multiple BMWs and MBZs. I pick MBZ for reliability and dependability, BMW's more fun to drive. Avoid turbo's at all costs. Also, I do not count the MBZ C class or the 1 and 2 series BMW's being the real thing. If made in America - particularly Alabama, most are lesser quality from USA production facilities. Both mfg's want to get you into their model lineup with introductory series that are made just as cheaply as GM, Ford, and Stellantis.

[@mackdolo230]

2019 e class?

[@Josh-yg3og]

@@mackdolo230Everyone says the E-class is the best option when buying a Mercedes without breaking the bank. I’m currently in the market for a 2019 E300 or 2020 E350.

[@aalberto4961]

My 20+ year old E46 (bought brand new) only went to the garbage recently because a family member crashed it. Otherwise that car was built like a tank and was frequently abused during its lifetime. I’m now driving a fully loaded electric iX 50 (paid in cash) and I can tell a lot of care went into putting this car together. No issues so far and I had the whole car wrapped in PPF just to make it that much more resilient to the elements.

[@Denco12]

Midlife crisis flex lol typical

[@ve2430]

You can't compare e46 to what they make today. Bmw actually cared back then. Wait till your new car gets older and we will see

[@derekbk9093]

just the battery alone will be a huge a cost when it fails

[@aalberto4961]

Way too many negative people here. I’m not surprised, it’s the internet. This video can be about puppies and you people will probably make some random bad comment. Are you guys okay? What’s lacking? It’s okay just work harder and longer hours. One day your dreams will come true. I promise…. In the mean time eat healthy and exercise. Invest like crazy to generate that sweet passive income. Go live debt and mortgage free. Good luck.

[@AVTA2117]

Thanks for the video, however the proper comparison would have been between MBZ C class and BMW 3 Series, instead of 2 Series!

[@ECPP]

That’s fair

[@robbiewu60]

The thing about bmws is they generally break less often than mercs in the first 5 years, but once they do the spareparts are usually pricier and of lower quality than mercs.

[@mrkhan2983]

you have a deep knowledge on cars technically. you must do some videos on vehicle maintenance there in CA,the cars which are in demand over there !

[@JimmieBrown-sg8fq]

Owned countless Bimmers thoughout the years I never have had any major problems right now in fact I got 3 sitting in my driveway (650, M5 and a 340) plus I just got a 2024 X5 delivered. Sweet ride. Where I live there is a BMW dealer right next to a MB dealer, Merc's overflowing in the lot they had to lease space from a business next door to keep all the inventory (many EQS’s but that’s another story), BMW can't keep cars on the lot. Merc's are trash, pretty bad when Range Rover has better quality. MB never got over the Chrysler debacle IMHO.

[@Sandy-md2rg]

People buy bmw just because of its image, they will buy it regardless if it has problems

[@Raider19582]

I heard JD Power goes with the Money 💰.

[@ECPP]

Haha

[@mustaphagai5031]

Is an advertisement company. What do u except.

[@l2luczin684]

@@ECPPI’ve been watching your videos about MB and BMW. I think I’ll buy Lexus LS500 instead of either of these brands

[@YYZ-SRQ]

you keep mentioning the 'French engines ' in Mercedes. The Renault sourced engine was only used in Europe and they were mainly small displacement diesel engines for the A and B class cars. The only C class that got a Renault engine is the C200d which never came to North America. Renault engines were a 1.3, and 1.5 & 1.6 diesel.

[@YYZ-SRQ]

The following Mercedes models have a Renault engine: A-Class - A 160 (d), A 180 (d), A 200, A 220e, and A 250 B-Class - B 160 (d), B 180 (d), B 200, and B 250e CLA-Class - CLA 180 (d), CLA 200, and CLA 250e C-Class - C 180 d and C 200 d GLA-Class - GLA 180 d and GLA 200 GLB-Class - GLB 180 d and GLB 200 Citan - 108 CDI, 109 CDI, 110 (CDI), 111 CDI, 112 CDI, and 113 Vito - 109 CDI and 111 CDI

[@SWENWAR]

Exactly!

[@BrakRulesAll]

My '21 M2 Comp has been bulletproof. BMW has made great strides in quality in the past few years.

[@armandoduarte8956]

Can you please tell me if my 2016 BMW 428I Coupe is on the good side? Just turned 85k and no problems whatsoever, I'm keen on maintenance.

[@ECPP]

Hi I believe your car carries the n20 engine which has had a little bit of a history of some troubles. The 2.0L turbo in your car was updated in later versions and most people who have the end of the run have the more improved timing chains and ramps so there is less likely an issue and most people have great experience with them as they are peppy and economical. The early versions of that n20 engine has had some issues with timing chains, water pumps, T stats, oil filter housing leaks, valve cover leaks, but general maintenance is likely all you need on yours. Stay on top of problems so they don’t get worse.

[@jasonhumphries5254]

The two cars are in different size classes. It should have been the 4 series v the Merc or the A class v the 2 series.

[@cristiancristi9384]

Are the same quality issues ( like plastic hoses on cooling parts) also being found in more expensive models like 5/7 series or E/ S class , or are those only on entry level models mostly ?

[@rudy7631]

The MB looks fantastic. The 2 series of BMW are not of my liking at all. However the 3 series is the car the MB C should be compared with. I haven't looked into neither car recently but both look sublime. Which one is better would be nice to know.

[@ECPP]

Fair enough!

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

3 series looks like a sofa vs c class

[@germanengineering204]

@@commantrosexetlos4700 you people make such weird comparisons that make no sense!😂

[@commantrosexetlos4700]

@@germanengineering204 just point out what.. Its so simple for you to make any sense

[@germanengineering204]

@@commantrosexetlos4700 Cope!

[@kindnesstoall]

Have had bmw for many many years and thankfully never had an issues. It's how you treat your ride!

[@ECPP]

That’s largely true but there are exceptions and I have witnessed a couple myself

[@user-ul1ku1ds9d]

He compared these two because the engine is the same. It’s about reliability. I just test drive both and BMW was fun but Mercedes was just perfect. I have no clue what to choose…probably the Mercedes. I would lease the BMW but buy the Mercedes. They have a 2023 with 10,000 miles for a steal so that’s my jam.

[@Zbroja69]

Loved the ASMR part :))

[@user-sf7kl9uh7k]

I'm very fond of this guy, his main motivation is cars and helping us out.

[@Byctvyb]

Ive had a 2018 c43 (W205) for over a year now ive put about 5000 miles on it and havent had a single issue apart from routine stuff like brakes

[@shamarbovell4457]

I have a similar car. Give it another 10k miles. So far my evaporator core went out, I travel for three months so the car was parked when I finally drove it again all sort of creeks and squeaks. Car was still fine but embarrassing to drive keeping those noises. The ball joint in the lower control arm was the issue as it dried out being parked. The steering colum also dried out but that was lubricated when the evaporator core was addressed.

[@TheEtbetween]

Excellent job

[@ECPP]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@elijahcarr4137]

The thing I've learnt with BMW is that it's the cheapest to fix and probably the most reliable as an overall brand than Mercedes and Audi and most other European brands. Even BMW's worst engines like the n20, n47 are far better than the Renault engines in low trim Mercedes. I have an 3 series N47 with 150k miles and it's better than my family members 2 low mileage B classes which kept having problems. I have a 2000 325ci with 150k and it's far better. As for Audi, My Dad's A3 cost £800 for an egr valve, my BMW was £60 labour plus my part for the same or I could do it myself. That audi repair cost would get me a new timing chain on my n47. The engine compartments are must larger on BMW compared to Audi so they're easier to work on

[@MrBecker666]

I had an E34 manual which I bought new with almost 200k got rear ended but the car had a lot left in it and only minor repairs

[@ECPP]

Cool car

[@Versajee]

I am the proud owner of a BMW 430i Gran Coupe LCI, which I acquired here in Switzerland. Notably, my model lacks a particulate filter (OPF) and had 92,000 kilometers on the odometer at the time of purchase. Just a year later, it's already approaching 138,000 kilometers. This vehicle has thoroughly impressed me with its delightful blend of exhilarating performance and comfort. It's been subjected to extensive use, standing up remarkably well under the demand. After reaching 100,000 kilometers, I opted for a Stage 1 upgrade, adding burble and XHP. The car has been performing flawlessly since. I'm meticulous about maintenance, ensuring an oil change every 15,000 kilometers using only the highest quality oil and fueling exclusively with Shell V-Power. This BMW 430i Gran Coupe LCI is, in my experience, the best all-rounder I've ever had the pleasure of owning. It underlines my belief that a vehicle's reliability is primarily a reflection of one's commitment to its maintenance and care.

[@xcxNelsonxcx]

Wonderful review, but maybe it's my BMW biased. I think a 440i would've been better matched up with the C300

[@fabriceopeta]

Compares a 2 series with a c class gotta be a 3 series atleast

[@ruanof7]

Min 2:06 JDM Ranks Honda at #5 and BMW #3, ha... that is a joke, I've owned both and Honda will destroy a BMW any BMW in reliability, BMW is Junk at 120K miles while Honda can easy do 200K miles. Just a comment on my experience. ( I love this channel by the way!, great content)

[@ECPP]

Thanks for sharing

[@joebloggs4191]

One other thing I should add the new Mercedes and particularly their interiors looks nicer and more snazzy than their BMW counterparts but the quality is way better in the BMWs.

[@JIMMY-ck1oe]

it seems you do not own a car if you own a car you definitely will not talk about such interiors bullshit

[@honorablewiz7447]

im not too sure about Mercedes Ive only owned 1.. but owning multiple BMWs. Id say both both are for people who owns a complete set of Metric wrenches. If you're aren't willing to work on your own vehicles, you risk the chance of running into that mechanic who is going to try to milk you. Also these cars require authentic replacement parts.

[@elvisndreu4769]

Can you please compare the MBW 5 series 2018 with E-class same year?

[@josiway]

Comparing a BMW 2 series to a C Class isn’t an even playing field. Comparing a 3 series to the C class makes more sense.

[@bollol5141]

Hi. What do you think about the Mercedes Glb with a 1.3 engine? Will it be a problematic car? the engine is weak, but it has good reviews and I haven't heard of any major failures compared to 2.0

[@zepp3lin]

That said about both Continentals, I still prefer Lexus for its fit, finish, and reliable engine/trans. Nothing beats Japanese quality in luxury brands.

[@Jacobfabian94]

Me also I have a 23 is500

[@danielstehura9657]

For long trips nothing beats a 405 mile range Tesla model S with autopilot

[@abhisheknauduri7013]

I went with a Lexus IS 350 F Sport. I absolutely love it! it turns heads and drives so well. I got the blue which is rare to see and find as well.

[@danielstehura9657]

I Drive a 2011 Hyundai Elantra GLS and it has advantages over a Honda Accord and a Toyota Camry. Number one it has a twin cam engine, which is much better than a single cam engine. Number two it has a dual clutch transmission so I can upshifting downshift on mountain roads and curves, when both Honda Accord and Camry have a POSCVT transmission and single cam engines I have 140,000 km on the car and it’s 12 years old. I have had no mechanical issues with the engine valves transmission water pump fuel pump radiator absolutely nothing. I have to change some tire rods going to the suspension. I have change the shock absorbers, and I have change the motor mounts. I don’t know if this needed to be done, but I did it. Japan is not nearly as progressive as Korea. LG makes incredible TVs refrigerators and washer and dryer’s. Samsung another great Korean company.! Toyota, Nissan, and Honda are going bankrupt. They have billions and billions and billions in debt. Japan is not what it used to be. Long live Tesla.

[@germanengineering204]

@@danielstehura9657 🤡😂

[@DenisMenace98]

21:50 bro you killing my eyes with that interior test 😅 Greeting from austria Bmw f20 owning 6yrs no problems so long 😄

[@ECPP]

Thanks for watching

[@ishmaellubisi586]

How can you compare 2 series with c class?

[@BigBoss-tk6lh]

Reliability left the chat😂

[@francisgomes9976]

If you want reliability go drive 2012 Corolla and Accord

[@markkrispin6944]

​@@francisgomes9976agree 💯. I have a 2021 Toyota Corolla Hybrid LE. Going to make it last 25 -30 years

[@francisgomes9976]

@@markkrispin6944 yup I'm sure driving Corolla is just as much fun as bimmer

[@timothygibney159]

​@@francisgomes9976They have CVTs and will break down. No thanks

[@ECPP]

Haha

[@agapepz4111]

Guys what do you think? if you replace the plastic ends of the hoses on bmw onto metal or something more durable, will it change the game?

[@ECPP]

Well

[@brianpitterle6113]

This video gets a like and a subscribe purely for the Quality Experience Section (the sounds are awesome).

[@donnelson9283]

Another Nice Review, As Usual. Yeah, I Especially Agree With You, With The Piston Issues With Mercedes. My Sister Has Friends Who Owned Mercedes, And They Used Regular Gas, Instead Of Premium Gas, And The Engines Caught Fire 🔥, In Both Occasions. Shows You Truly, Have Miles Of Experience With These Cars. Maybe I'll Call BMW "Black Mamba World", If I Purchase 2024 X5 Hybrid. Thanx For The Non-Bias Review !! 😉👌

[@ECPP]

Thanks a lot for sharing Don, yes they do seem a little fragile and I prefer something that is a little more “over engineered “. So it can tolerate some looser issues

[@alneg6234]

Toyota put both of them to shame long time ago. People are still after the name and logo.

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@zoanuva]

But the C class competes with the 3 series, the 2 series may be similar with engine and stuff to the 3 series, but its smaller that the 3 series. Its not as close comparison as if can be.

[@ECPP]

Yes

[@kenfrankel3498]

How do the tires compare ( run flats vs conventional ) ? …. How about interior noise on the road ?.

[@incyphe]

the amount of plastic in bmw engine bay is shocking. Love the comparo, but I do feel you should've compared the 3 series coupe (though the interior quality isn't too different)

[@ECPP]

That’s fair. Thanks for watching and as they say”plastic fantastic”

[@whatever3749]

I have a 2012 Mazda MX5 and love it but I'm looking at a Z4 BMW. Is the BMW Z4 a reliable car? Most on KZbin say yes.

[@jamesdavidsmith4033]

Excellent 🎉

[@ECPP]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@joebloggs4191]

I have had BMWs for over 25 years and all have been very reliable. Current one is the E89 N52 3.0 14 years old I have had it for the past 4 years and not spent a penny on it apart from oil filter changes and brakes pads. Proves even 10 year plus BMWs can be reliable as with any other brand BMW have had some drivetrains that can be troublesome but on the whole they’ve never been that bad. The new generation since about 2015 which are now 8 years old and have had enough time to prove their worth shows that they are pretty robust!

[@ECPP]

That’s sort of what o have seen too

[@troytruong8246]

what a joker. What until it hits 150k+ miles.

[@joebloggs4191]

@@troytruong8246 what if it hits 300k miles?

[@troytruong8246]

@joebloggs4191 Let me guess. You either had a na v6 1990s to early 200s 3 series or you replaced everything in the car for it to last 300k miles. Or you are a liar.

[@joebloggs4191]

@@troytruong8246 Wrong on all counts and a V6? Shows what you know about BMWs! Anyway almost all cars are going to give you some sort of problems if you starting hitting 150k and above. Most people are not running around in cars this old or with this much mileage! Furthermore I have owned Japanese cars that required major work well before 100K miles too just as an example, Mk 4 Supra Turbo big end bearings (and this model is known for head gaskets blowing!), Toyota Avensis - Gearbox, Honda Civic - gearbox, Toyota Corolla which we owned from new head gasket and the list goes on. Cars are mechanical so no matter which brand you buy expect to fix them! By the way I used to own a used car lot and have experience of all German and Japanese car brands.

[@rogerone7387]

We must say BMWs made in Germany are much better built.. hands down. Naturally aspirated with little problems and hydraulic steering, any other questions. Great, later.

[@jossy573]

I like BMWs but not the maintenance and have experienced this personally on a X3 2012 I have watched your videos but there seems not to be a good midsized one to buy with all the issues on the X5 Should I wait till 2025 to buy the current 2020 to 2023s as used. Do you ever see these engines getting better in 5 years or this will never end unless you buy brand new? Thx

[@trustyoungpierre9959]

Honestly I say stick with the old BMW’s and Mercedes. 2015 and prior.

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@MrRjnr]

2005 and older 😁

[@MrRensan404]

I believe that your car’s reliability is mostly influenced by how you drive and maintain your car. YOU basically are the one who will determine its RELIABILITY.

[@andyp91]

It is most definitely a factor! How you drive and how you maintain it, matters large.

[@elliot747]

I agree. I’ve had a few BMWs and for me they have been amazing in terms of reliability

[@jubjuicebruin2741]

Driving around I have seen way more newer looking bmw’s on the side of the road waiting or getting towed when compared to Mercedes. Maybe the owners of these vehicles treat them differently. Maybe if you drive a bmw to cruise around without driving it like a racing car then the assessment of reliability is pretty spot on.

[@flam7469]

FYI, the N13 is a French built engine in the 316i. Same engine as in the Mini.

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@Tsukuyomi8]

Hi can anyone tell me which will be more reliable? Audi S3 BMW 128ti A35 AMG If they're all brand new of course

[@burakusa10]

Doesn't matter brand. Second hand car , go with Manuel gearbox

[@billyy777]

Should have compared a 3 series with the C class

[@stingray9225]

I sold my grande coupe after 4 years, too many problems

[@ECPP]

Nice

[@JIMMY-ck1oe]

did you try new kia sportage? is it reliable?

[@epultimast]

Shouldn’t a C Class be rather compared to a 3 Series than a 2 Series?

[@RichardMusekiwa]

my thoughts exactly

[@eliswerekio]

Well let me put it like that: BMW is a sports car trying to be luxurious MERCEDES is a luxurious car trying to be a sports car Depends what you want from your car

[@eliswerekio]

Im personally a huge BMW fan

[@spencer82rocks]

No one should owned a BMW ,BMW are supposed to be a loan car rent a car or car you can use(lease car ) only ,

[@rork99]

If posible to make which is it the most reliable limousine big ones, including diesel.

[@ECPP]

Cheers

[@randy74989]

Neither and BMW is a money pit. I know my brother had two X6 SUVs and they were breaking down all the time. Yeah, BMW paid for it under warranty but you had to take it in, get another car (free), wait for the parts, and then the repairs. So, you were inconvenienced by all of this car servicing. Now, I had a 2014 ML350 BlueTEC diesel, loved it until Mercedes agreed via court rulings to fix the emissions problem without a recall. Many problems after that (in the last two years) and about $5,500 out-of-pocket for repairs and maintenance. Traded it in in April and got a Lexus ES300h, Ultra Luxury and am happy as a lark!

[@benBergma]

Hi. Recently got my d.license in Germany. I want to buy a 2nd hand car. My options are MB c180 2012 and bmw 118 2012. Two of my friends willing to sell their cars to me at less than 120km on both cars. Any advice from car masters 😁

[@midiman5045]

A couple of years is still a new car. 10 to 15 even 25 years down the road is where the reliability really shows. To me CR can say BMW is upping there game but on a 2 year term is not proving it to me. Since as you know and I know that plastic is great till the warranty runs out, the shazam $. BMW = Big Money Wallet.

[@ECPP]

Exactly

[@danielstehura9657]

A bunch of young punks here that lease their BMWs, every two years get a Boner owning them. You will never get the longevity of an S class Mercedes or a top-of-the-line Lexus.

[@germanengineering204]

Do some research you're very naive about BMW reliability in say the last 10 years buddy! 2 years lmao!!!

[@danielstehura9657]

@@germanengineering204 the word is out my friend BMW uses too much plastics under the hood where the parts that are plastic are in an extremely hot environment and because of this the car is turned to garbage.

[@danielstehura9657]

@@germanengineering204 they have improved, but because of BMWs past, they will continue to lose customers! Just like Detroit. I had an X5 I had nothing but problems. Once you get burned by a car company, it is very difficult to go back. I had a Tesla model, three long range and now my daughter is driving it I will always buy another Tesla. I have driven over 1,000,000 miles. In almost every type of high quality car! For years, I kept going back to Mercedes Benz because I’ve had the least problems with them

[@romie6466]

Just so everyone knows. The wood trim in the BMW is actually real wood, with epoxy finish.

[@DanielManole]

How can you compare a 2 series with a C class? Should have been 3 series with C Class!

[@Will_14_years_ago]

The plastic sound in the doors just doesnt sound like an old merc

[@jesselehtinen6797]

Which one do you prefer buying mercedes benz 2016-2019 c180 or bmw 2016-2019 b38 or b48 which car is more reliable

[@jesselehtinen6797]

3 series