Mercedes W639 Vito 722.6 5GTronic Gearbox Automatic Transmission Fluid ATF Change Service

How I did the Mercedes Vito automatic transmission service on a 115CDI W639 with the 5 speed 722.682 transmission.
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[@aveservices3052]

I've watched all of your videos, and used an incredible amount of information from them - Thank you! However, it was great to see things go slightly wrong in this clip, I thought it was just me that bad things happen to, I've lost many tools due to stiff bolts, rusted parts and frustration. The Vito 109 04, is my first vehicle of any sort, but I love learning new things so taken it upon myself to change/maintain as much on her as possible (The prices around my area are around £110PH (220 aus$) for labour!!) So far; 4 struts (rear and front) 4 springs (rear and front) Wiper motors Xenon lens's 2 window regulators + cabling a lot of electrical repair due to previous owner oil change steering wheel change indicator stalk tightening and a few cosmetics here and there Thank you for all your videos and sharing your vast knowledge with all of us, I hope there is more to come :) - Stewart

[@ScottElliott152]

+stewart pearce Thanks Stewart. Have a look at the recent video I did on the front strut modification. I'll be doing the auto service video again mid year. This will be me doing my own vehicle and will be better than this video. My two mates have a rough enough is good enough attitude. It was one of the early tutorials so I was learning. Regards, Scott

[@ScottElliott152]

Hi Dave ... thanks for your kind comment about the video. You can buy the dipstick cheaply off eBay. search for "Mercedes 722.6 dip stick". No you can't leave it in place as it's quite long. It will have about 200mm poking out when it's in place. Reuse the black plastic cap. and the broken red seal lock. You can also buy the little red locks on eBay if you like.

[@cwizardS]

I've found a lack of DIY videos for the W639 Vito diesels. We need more of these videos especially for people in Australia where the stealerships charge a lot of money for simple work.

[@conquets1]

Nice job guys

[@ScottElliott152]

Thanks. It didn't take us long as we've done three now.

[@ezetobebad]

Hi there Scott, Did this job today. It took 2 hours....maybe a bit longer than expected as 4mm torque convertor drain bolt snapped off & too an age to get out. Apart from that the job was straight forward. I refilled with aprox 7.5 Litres of new fluid & I did NOT blow the lines out.

[@ScottElliott152]

Hopefully you can drill the TC bolt out and re tap. Put an M6 in.

[@rickbates9232]

The clip on the filter that was removed was not inserted into the slot, so it was just hanging. There is a little trick to get the clip on some filters to go in. You have to gently press up with the clip over the slot and then slightly twist it left and then right around the main inlet, then the clip should go right into the slot and hold in. The Ryco ones need this, some other ones just seem to go straight in as the new one you installed. I suspect it depends on the type of plastic.

[@razvanrazvan40]

Good evening ..... very interesting video these days and I'll do the oil change .....

[@ScottElliott152]

Marin I'm about to make this video again as I'm doing the transmission service on my own Vito in a couple of weeks. This video was of a mates Vito and he's not as particular as me ... he's more "close enough is good enough". Give me about three to four weeks and a better video should be available.

[@fredriklinnell9088]

ok, here in cold sweden it will cold down quick😁. Thanks for reply mate! Now I am ready to change oil on my race van 120 cdi which will carry my cbr1000rr around to racetracks!

[@ScottElliott152]

The 120CDI is a great van. You could put your CBR1000RR in the back and drive to Sepang in Malaysia! It's long way but it would be fun.

[@ScottElliott152]

Edward you're right. I've given up with the dealers. They just try to gouge as much of your hard earned dollars as they can. I'm happy to do the research and make more videos. My brake fluid is due for changing soon so I was going to do a DIY about that. It's an easy job but you need a pressure bleeder. They're cheap on eBay. Thank for your comment.

[@karenarnett6670]

Hi Scott. What type/grade of art goes into these transmissions? Also, have watched all you posts,... humourus, well presented and informative, well done!

[@ScottElliott152]

Karen thanks for your kind words. The ATF to use is whatever has the Mercedes specification MB236.14. We used Fuchs ATF 4134 as it seems to be the easiest one to get hold of in Australia. Penrite Oil are getting more of their products to pass the MB specs so hopefully they may have something soon.

[@razvanrazvan40]

Română Engleză Italiană Hello Scott .....masina mea a inceput sa nu mai schimbe vitezele cind se incalzeste cutia.....nu cred ca pot astepta atit.... As vrea sa imi explicati mai bine daca este important sa fac manevrele de aerisire cu sticla de plastic? Hello Scott ..... my car began to change gears when not heated box ..... not think I can wait so .... I'd like to explain me better if it is important to do maneuvers vent with plastic bottle?

[@razvanrazvan40]

Ciao Scott ..... la mia macchina ha cominciato a cambiare marcia quando la casella non riscaldata ..... non credo di poter aspettare così .... Mi piacerebbe spiegarmi meglio se è importante fare manovre sfogare con la bottiglia di plastica?

[@adamkormendy2320]

Hi Scott, How often do you change transmission oil in your automatic Vito Van? Thanks for your videos!

[@ScottElliott152]

Adam Kormendy Hi Adam. I like to do the transmission often as it's the best way to keep it in top condition. Because it's quite easy work I tend to do it every three years or 40,000km whichever comes first. MB say filled for life which is nonsense however they've now indicated there maybe benefit in doing it every 60,000 km or 4 or 5 years.I'll do this video again as I'm going to do my own transmission again soon. The current video on this subject has a bit too much horsing around and glosses over a few things. My two mates don't have as much mechanical sympathy as I do. Near enough is good enough for them whereas I like to do things properly.I feel spending $25 on a filter and $90 on new ATF every three years is dam cheap insurance and will keep the transmission like new. Regards, Scott

[@adamkormendy2320]

Hi Scott, Thanks for your detailed and informative answer. I be waiting for your next video. :) Cheers, Adam

[@reneahumada8520]

thank you, this is very interesting, just would like to know where to find the dip stickRegards, René

[@ScottElliott152]

+Rene Ahumada Thanks. If you take the air box off first it makes it easier to find. It should be on the LHS of the engine.

[@reneahumada8520]

Hi Scott, Thank you but what I meant was where to buy the dip stick and get rid of the plug that comes from factory. Thanks again, René

[@ScottElliott152]

+Rene Ahumada Rene ... You can buy the dipstick cheaply off eBay. search for "Mercedes 722.6 dip stick". No you can't leave it in place as it's quite long. It will have about 200mm poking out when it's in place. Reuse the black plastic cap and the broken red seal lock. You can also buy the little red locks on eBay if you like.

[@reneahumada8520]

Hi Scott, What about cutting the dipstick to the right size? I thought this is just a trick to force you to do the service with the dealer and to pay big bucks to them. Otherwise I'll just do what you suggest and only use it to check the transmission fluid from time to time. Thank you, Regards, René.

[@ScottElliott152]

+Rene Ahumada You'd have to work out how to seal the tube. The black cap has an O-ring and is pushed into the tube to seal it properly. It's easier and safer to use the proper cap to make sure no dust, dirt or water go down that tube. I keep my 722.6 dipstick in the garage but you could easily store it in the van somewhere.

[@razvanrazvan40]

Hello Scott ..... my car began to change gears when not heated box ..... not think I can wait so .... I'd like to explain me better if it is important to do maneuvers vent with plastic bottle?

[@ScottElliott152]

Marian. Please write your question in Italian. My wife speaks the langauge and can translate

[@fredriklinnell9088]

any particular reason why you don't use the dip stick level for 25 deg oil temperature?

[@ScottElliott152]

Depends on the ambient temperature. You want to get the ATF nice and hot before you drain it. If you're efficient and are pouring the new ATF into an already hot transmission that new oil will be heated way above 25C. You either warm it up to around 80C or wait until it cools to 25C ... whichever is faster.

[@hodaelsouda]

hi, Mine is vito 113CDI, will it be same procedure? I have not done such work before but if I follow exactly what you did could save £££

[@ScottElliott152]

Sam it should be easier. I'm pretty sure your model doesn't have thew thermo control valve on the LHS of the engine sump. You'll have the pressure side line coming out of the gearbox in the same place but it will go straight to the oil cooler. Also the oil line pushes into the transmission and is held with a clip or bolt. It's probably not the banjo fitting like mine. Have a look underneath first to work out what you've got. Everything else will be the same as it has the 722.6 transmission.

[@mikecast1525]

How much oil goes in just draining the sum only?

[@ScottElliott152]

About 50% ... around 3.5 to 4.0 litres.

[@fredriklinnell9088]

don't give me any idea's 😂. Driving down to Spain will be long enough!

[@vicudobre5100]

Hi. I got a Vito 2002 2.2 cdi automatic old model.Please help me to change the oil .... Thank you

[@ScottElliott152]

Vicu, your vehicle is the old front wheel drive model and I have no experience with that variant. My knowledge is the W639 2004 onwards. Search YT as you may find another person who understands your model. Regards, Scott

[@vicudobre5100]

Thank you .I did ..nish. nada

[@pengtao4364]

hi scott, i saw some video on youtube. Those people just put a 27mm hose into the hole for the transmission oil filter, and sunk the new fluid from that hose in order to do the flush. why you choose a more complicated method. and btw the dip stick i boought from the ebay has a plastic mesuring part which is not straight. do you think will it be ok to still use it.

[@ScottElliott152]

Peng ... It depends how bent the plastic measuring part is. Try to straighten it if you can. The 27mm hose method won't flush the oil cooler if you have the thermo control valve as it will be closed. That's why it's done in two stages. Some 722.6 transmissions don't have that valve so the 27mm hose may work.

[@pengtao4364]

thx for the reply, another question, what kind of sealant did you use to seal the torque converter, any brand or specification tfor recommandation?

[@ScottElliott152]

I used a small amount of Permatex Non Hardening Sealant on the the threads and washer.

[@fredriklinnell9088]

scott, what's the dimension of the special banjo you use to flush the heat exchanger and more?

[@ScottElliott152]

It's a 10mm bolt as explained. Drill down the centre and cross drill so the fluid can flow into the banjo fitting. A couple of washers either side with gaskets made from gasket paper. The other special tool has a bit of 3/8" heater hose on the end ground into a cone shape to push against the pipe end.

[@ScottElliott152]

Also have a look at this video of my 7GTronic as I explain the banjo fitting in more detail.

[@ScottElliott152]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lV6aY3iElNWki7c

[@omerbey82]

If the filter is not changed, only how much oil should I add if I change the oil. Thanks

[@ScottElliott152]

The filter drains back to the sump ... so the oil change quantity is about the same if you change the filter or not. It's about 8.4 litres. I put 7 litres in then top up by monitoring the level via the dipstick.

[@omerbey82]

@@ScottElliott152 Thanks for your answer, but that's exactly what I want to ask. I just couldn't open the oil change pan from the sump plug and Screw broke. I hope it doesn't leak oil,

[@ScottElliott152]

@@omerbey82 Thanks Omer. Sorry I gave you some misinformation. Note I meant to say start with 7 litres then monitor via the dipstick. I'm assuming you're still going to remove the oil pan and drain the torque convertor? The TC holds about 50% of the ATF and the oil pan/sump the other 50%

[@omerbey82]

@@ScottElliott152 Thanks a lot for your help but I stop by to measure the oil level but it always goes above the level. Could it be because it is getting too much into the sump? In your measurement, how many cm does the rod go in?my dip stick is 122 cm

[@ScottElliott152]

@@omerbey82 122cm is about right. You must have too much oil. Did you remove the sump to drain?

[@fatihbeydilli3645]

dear SCOTTS I have mercedes vito 2012 - 113CDI. Today I decided to change my Automatic transmission fluid. I taken my car to one of the private mercedes engineer. He use automatic transmission fluid 4 litre. I am confuse once I watched your video you are mentioned to use oil 7.2 -8 litre. what can be wrong. Do you thing he did not done properly to change oil. Please help me to Many Thanks

[@ScottElliott152]

Hi Faith. This is the problem with many of the so called "professionals". It sounds like all he has done is drop the ATF out of the pan and not drained the torque converter. The TC holds about 4 litres or about half of the total quantity. So these guys only change half the fluid! and thereby contaminate the new fluid with the old. Do you know if he took the oil pan off and changed the filter? I think the 2012 model has a drain plug for the TC. It's very easy to get to and unscrew the drain plug. Would you be able to do the job yourself based on watching my video?

[@fatihbeydilli3645]

Dear Scotts They drained only pan but not torque converter. Yes He took the oil pan off , changed the filter and seal.You recon this job not done properly. What is the your advise to me to tell the this engineer. I am going to see him this monday. Many Thanks

[@ScottElliott152]

Fatih Beydilli Faith I would say I was unhappy he did only half the oil as now you have a mixture of 50/50 old and new. There's hardly any point in only replacing half the ATF as the old stuff contaminates the new. The total volume required if you drain both the oil pan and the TC is between 7 & 8 litres and maybe more if you flush the oil cooler like we did.

[@fatihbeydilli3645]

MrScott52 nice of you Many Thanks

[@ScottElliott152]

Fatih Beydilli Faith he may try to blind you with BS by saying the TQ doesn't have a drain plug or that replacing half the ATF is not a problem or he may say they only hold 4 litres. I'm sure he'll try to spin a story because that's what these people do ... they prey on the ill informed. That's why I think it's so important to gain knowledge about this sort of thing. If you don't your at the mercy of people like this. I just looked up the Workshop Information System and according to that there is a drain plug for the TQ. I mean you wouldn't change half your engine oil would you?

[@Rs500ybd]

She is fucking gorge cracking pair too . :D LOL .Lovely eyes too .

[@rachidbenaouf478]

salut j'ai une vito année 2012 roulé 200000 km je change l huile ou non

[@ScottElliott152]

Oui, vous devez changer l'huile. Faites-le tous les 60000 ou trois ans. Scott

[@rachidbenaouf478]

notre concessionnaire ma dit a ce kilométrage vous risques de la bloqué svp je vais procéder à votre méthode donner moi la réf de mon huile

[@user-yl3rf9tc4n]

any one sale this special fitting ?

[@ScottElliott152]

No we had to make something.

[@bertonnecom]

MrScott52 Hi Scott, would you be interested in selling this customised banjo bolt? I live in Sydney and happy to pay for postage.

[@ScottElliott152]

A Ng It's really quite simple to make one. You don't need a lathe. The main feature is drilling a hole down the centre and another one across. A 10mm bolt, a couple of metal washers and a couple of sealing washers then stick a plastic hose on the end. You could file the threads off the first 20mm for the plastic hose. Hope this helps. Put the thinking cap on and improvise. Hope this helps. kind regards, Scott

[@rachidbenaouf478]

notre concessionnaire ma dit a ce kilométrage vous risques de la bloqué svp je vais procéder à votre méthode donner moi la réf de mon huile essentielle

[@ScottElliott152]

MB236.14. Fuchs Titan ATF 4134 or Total Fluidmatic LV MV both have the MB236.14 specification.

[@ScottElliott152]

www.mercedesmedic.com/diy-transmission-oil-change-722-6/

[@vladk9360]

Hi @Scott Elliott, I highly appreciate your work with video, and, especially, your effort to answer all comments. It's fantastic. Thank you. Some questions from me. I have to change ALL transmission fluid on my MB w211 722.6. And I found this way is easier: disconnect transmission feed line to the radiator and connect plastic tube and drain oil, starting the engine. I believe that you got an idea (it described on video on youtube "Flushing Mercedes C230 722.6 Transmission Fluid" kzbin.info/www/bejne/baTcgGqJr7B-h5Y ). The question is, what is the practical difference between the 2 methods? Will I be able to drain ALL fluid using the second method (connecting to the feed line to the radiator), or is your method in some way is better? Thank you. Your time and answer are highly appreciated.

[@ScottElliott152]

Thanks Vlad. The video I made follows the instructions in the Mercedes WIS. I believe the method you describe is pumping the ATF out but not removing the oil pan to change the filter and clean the magnet and bottom of the pan. If you only wish to change the ATF then the process you describe will change most of the ATF. I don't support the idea of measuring what came out and putting the same volume back in. The level needs to be set using the 722.6 dipstick. What if the transmission had a weeping seal? It might have been at a low level before you started. I think it's important to remove the pan to clean and change the filter at least every 4 to 5 years and 60,000 to 80,000km. Perhaps a fluid only change in between the full service would be a good way to maintain the 722.6.

[@vladk9360]

@@ScottElliott152 Scott, you're the Iron Man. The plan is, "Change oil" using the method "pumping the ATF" that I've sent the video above. After, remove the pan, clean it, replace the filter, replace the gasket, and plug. Place pan back. And add the correct amount of transmission oil according to MB procedure (cold and warm state, using the 722.6 dipstick). Hopefully, In this way, I'll be able to change the oil: transmission itself, torque converter, radiator, lines. Does it make sense? Will this work?

[@ScottElliott152]

@@vladk9360 Yes it will but I would still remove the torque convertor drain plug to get the last bit of old ATF out.