Mercuriall 6160III vs Neural DSP Gojira - EVH Stealth Plugins

Just a quick one here. They could definitely be dialled in to sound a bit closer but I think its demonstrable enough that they are capable of the same tones. Different prices, different pedals/fx, different IR's, Mercuriall has channel 1, the mode switch, the gain relationship between ch2 and 3 etc.
Will try and do another one soon comparing channel 2
FWIW Gojira is EVH 5150III EL34 and Mercuriall is 6L6, the circuits are slightly different between the 2 amps (besides just the valves).

[@FeelingMinnesota]

The 6160 is the best amp sim I’ve heard so far ❤

[@PippPriss]

WAY more prefer the 6160III, the feel is way better.

[@artean4700]

I actually prefer the 6160. It sounds more open/forward in the mid range and does not have that slight... honky-ness in the low mids that always bothered me with the Gojira.

[@eds4754]

honestly, I feel both are very accurate to the real amp and it’s just about dialling it in (especially the master volume to adjust the midrange). I actually find Gojira to sound a bit more scooped at similar settings, I had to reduce the 6160 master much lower to get a similar response. IMO they’re both capable of pretty much the same result.

[@artean4700]

@@eds4754 I'm about to try out the 6160 demo and compare it myself to the Gojira. But, yes, there is not much of a difference in your test.

[@eds4754]

@@artean4700 Let me know what you think!

[@Depurity]

I agree about the honkiness but it also helps project better in a live situation.

[@andreygankovich4867]

I like the set of FXs in Gojira

[@gabrielavanzi9652]

Nice demo! I have not tried the 6160III yet, but judging by the sound here, I can't pick a favorite. Thanks!

[@jefflancaster7839]

Well I have to say I am really surprised by this Mercuriall 6160 plugin. Before Tonex and NAM, Gojira was the only plugin I liked because I felt it had more harmonic complexity and a fuller sound than most plugins. After seeing this and a few other recent reviews of this plugin I decided to check it out. I don't know if I am fooling myself...but this is the BEST sounding/feeling plugin I have played. To me, it doesn't matter if it sounds good double-tracked in a metal mix....but actual hands-on playing with single-note riffs using pick articulation and palm muting and dynamics has to sound and feel natural. Bascially it has to pass my old EVH greatest riffs test.😁 I have spent literally hundreds (thousands?) of hours listening to and comparing plugins and machine modeled captures...and unless I am losing my mind (which is entirely possible)...this finally nails the "fully modeled" guitar signal chain for me....giving you full control, and not just a static capture with hybrid control. Gojira sounds fizzy and less "solid" to me when played in isolation. At 8x oversampling, this 6160 model sounds amazing. The weird thing is that it sounds like the EL34 version (which I prefer in the real amp) and not the 6L6 version. Also, the channel volume seems a little aggressive at introducing SAG....which sounds a little unnatural past 10 or 11 o'clock. Other than that...I can't find anything bad to say about it. The number one thing that impressed me the most was how well it reacted to rolling back the guitar volume.....Gojira falls apart, Tonex is OK, NAM is better...but this just sounds solid and natural to me when lowering the guitar volume. I was seriously skeptical before I actually tried this. Somebody please tell me I'm wrong...my left hand is holding my right hand back from clicking that "Buy" button......🤷‍♂

[@eds4754]

It’s a great plugin, if you like it, support the developers so they can keep making more!

[@eds4754]

BTW, Neural DSP are machine learned. Mercuriall are component/SPICE based with NN poweramps. The best of both worlds :)

[@jefflancaster7839]

@@eds4754 Yeah I was going to look into what they were doing in terms of machine learning. Haven't found anything specific about their new V3 engine, but whatever it is I like it! I hope they update their old Spark plugin to the latest version of their Hybrid-modeling.

[@eds4754]

@@jefflancaster7839 absolutely! Some good Marshalls would round out Ampbox nicely

[@jefflancaster7839]

​@@eds4754The fact that the demo dropouts were driving me crazy meant that I must be really enjoying myself.... so I bought it...and have been playing for several hours!👍

[@filterscape]

Have both. They both kick arse! 🤘🏼

[@MUZIKROOMSTORE]

Mercuriall awesome!

[@kibatsu]

The short answer bout the choice is if you have one of this kind of plugin, dont buy another one. Still you can buy it to support the company ❤ These comments are so radical icant 😂 Guys, you can take some time for setting up and EQing to get the exact same result, especially if you mastering 😊 The plugin itself is cool and nice to have tho 👌

[@eds4754]

totally! Both plugins are capable of so much more than what these videos show, and 99% of differences are likely down to how i’ve dialled them. I agree about supporting the community, we’re spoiled with choice that costs so little. Support the companies❤️

[@bukowskimoho]

Mercuriall 6160III feels more alive, but i think neural's one could sounds similar if you add a little more presence.

[@eds4754]

Yeah, I had the presence a bit higher on Mercuriall settings. Bit of a balancing act with the MV and other settings but I think they both sound very close, just depends how they’re set up

[@amirtak9886]

Having tried both, they sound almost the same through the same IR. I'll stick with my Gojira.

[@AlucardXIX]

I've always struggled to get something I like out of the Gojira, and only used it in a few mixes because it normally sounds very "behind the speaker" to me, compared to other amp sims. Looking forward to trying the Mercuriall

[@theguitaristGabriel]

both amp sims are great sounding, you have to consider the fact that the transpose in Gojira give you allot more..very accurate.if you where only to afford one keep the Gojira..but if you can buy both by all means they stack up well as 5150 arsenal

[@AndresPrass]

Personally, Mercuriall's sounds more open-forward in the mix. Any chance in uploading an isolated comparison?

[@eds4754]

i’ll do more videos for sure! I think Mercuriall is dialled a little brighter here, I think they’re capable of producing very similar tones/can get you where you need to go

[@AndresPrass]

@@eds4754Thank you so very much!

[@dooberknob3947]

Not sure if you have any experience with Audio Assault, but do you know how the AHM5050 plugin would compare to these?

[@eds4754]

@@dooberknob3947 for the price it’s OK, but they’re not particularly accurate emulations compared to these. Kind of insane for the money though.

[@Alexhangman]

It would be cool to comapre without mix as well.

[@spectre5022]

Both sounds awesome, which one do you prefer?

[@eds4754]

I already have Gojira, and actually ended up selling my amp when I heard how close they sounded. I think Mercuriall sounds great too but I’m not sure I need both. MAYBE prefer Gojira slightly but there’s nothing really in it

[@spectre5022]

@@eds4754 same here, I have Gojira too, mercuriall is amazing but there's a lot of this amp, STL has very great versions too. Cheers!

[@eds4754]

@@spectre5022 Totally agree, really like the STL one although the UI is quite congested. These 2 are a little quicker to use. I also prefer the Stealth and EL34 revisions of the amp, although the differences aren’t huge

[@notalkguitarampplug-insrev784]

Oversampling x8?

[@eds4754]

yep

[@waynefaircloth3423]

Who's IR's are you using in this comparison?

[@eds4754]

they’re ones I make, mirror profiles

[@GrMfull]

What IR dis you used ?

[@eds4754]

From my Cali 1999 pack

[@sergeypavlov8883]

What is the riff?

[@eds4754]

just some shite I wrote

[@sergeypavlov8883]

@@eds4754 very cool man, great riff in at first

[@eds4754]

@@sergeypavlov8883 thank you!