This only makes me wish for a podcast with these two.
@platonist214 жыл бұрын
YES omg i would love that
@waleed57834 жыл бұрын
they kinda just did that ...... start your time machine
@cartoonfreak96354 жыл бұрын
What???MEEE really where
@waleed57834 жыл бұрын
@@cartoonfreak9635 I was talking about the live stream they did a couple of hours ago
@castlebroknhed80654 жыл бұрын
OMG Yes! These two should definitely start a podcast together.
@ShalomDove5 жыл бұрын
“Brandon , go outside...” *Sanderson, holding a bottle of vitamin D tablets* “sunlight is for amateurs.”
@jonahbardwell5515 жыл бұрын
Brandon can go outside once the Stormlight Archive is finished
@thelmahannah13275 жыл бұрын
He can go outside when we get The Lost Metal!
@ashenone30505 жыл бұрын
@Arthur Pilgram first elantris 2 , then he can proceed to warbreaker 2 , i need to see my dula friend
@abdurrehman49325 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't want him to turn into grrm
@danalou_who77655 жыл бұрын
😂He could just take his laptop outside and slap on some sunscreen and keep on writing like a madman.
@nvwest4 жыл бұрын
Beginner 1:01 Mistborn 3:50 Warbreaker & Elantris 4:50 Good Omens 5:45 King Killer 6:45 Narnia 8:25 The ocean at the end of the lane 8:40 Duel of Fire Intermedite 9:10 Stormlight Archive 10:45 Gentleman Bastard 12:40 American Gods 14:00 Lord of the Rings 15:25 First Law 17:00 An Unkindness of Magicians 21:05 Lightbringer Advanced 18:25 The Wheel of Time 22:30 A Song of Ice and Fire 23:47 Broken Earth 24:25 Dark Tower 25:00 Witcher Actually, having read about half of these already, I don’t agree with this at all. Witcher is so easy to read through. Good omens as well. The stormlight archive I could barely put down. Lord of the Rings however really was a struggle. Both because of not being used to the writing style and because of already knowing the story too much to have this strong drive to find out what will happen next. Also the wheel of time is much easier to read than A song of ice and fire, but for both series I’m at book 5. Asoiaf b6 has been waiting on the shelf for almost a year and wot is an addicting I started not even two months ago that hooked me so much at the start of this year that I’ll finish the series before I know it.
@godhatesme32314 жыл бұрын
I agree with your opinion sooo much!
@Horus0704 жыл бұрын
I read a bunch of their list ... do agree with you though, for the books I read.
@Roonagu4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I read Witcher when I was 13, first adult literature I read actually..not really difficult read, beforehand I read maybe Narnia series, Harry Potter and Eragon out of fantasy.
@cordeliabryant82594 жыл бұрын
What about the malorean? It was a precursor to almost all of those books.
@madisongracedeluise4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the time stamps!
@eternally.sleepy4 жыл бұрын
Daniel: “Brandon, go outside!” Also Daniel: *New video every day
@annejia53823 жыл бұрын
this!!! 😂😂😂
@TheHEAVYDAN2 жыл бұрын
the sun burnses
@Hoaking4 жыл бұрын
Merphy: I skip the song breaks... Do you read them?? Daniel: I read them, they are good poetry Me: .... I sing them... I thought that was what every one did
@alexjohannes79084 жыл бұрын
Have you listened to clamavi de profondis ? They put them into songs, it's amazing.
@Bianca-vg9yn4 жыл бұрын
I sing them, too! just inside my head, most times. They add to the atmosphere of the scene.
@noeljobu56264 жыл бұрын
+
@paulregan93044 жыл бұрын
This comment actually made me laugh out loud
@davidmauriciogutierrezespi52444 жыл бұрын
I do sing them
@aflowerthatcannotbebloomed5 жыл бұрын
A goat person is either called a satyr or a faun. A satyr is the name they used in the Greek mythology while faun is from the Roman mythology. Yay to Rick Riordan for educating me about mythology😂😂
@ziyanda_theartist5 жыл бұрын
I've only seen the Narnia movies and not read the books, but I believe they used the term "faun", yes.
@knutolavbjrgaas10695 жыл бұрын
I believe that in Narnia, at least the films(can't remember if it's talked about in the books), satyrs and fauns are different things. Satyrs being basically a humanoid goat, and fauns being goat legs and human torso.
@ziyanda_theartist5 жыл бұрын
@@knutolavbjrgaas1069 Oooh, yeah, I was thinking of James McAvoy's character, who was a faun, but you are right, I think he mentioned it as well, if I'm not mistaken..?
@laner.8455 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a goat man is just a Goatman. Thanks Diablo.
@Trustworthy_McLegitimate5 жыл бұрын
how do you milk those things???
@-----REDACTED-----4 жыл бұрын
I still think it’s one of the greatest flexes in authorship ever that Tolkien wrote the LotR series because he thought the languages he invented as a linguist needed some background...😂 He basically created the greatest series of fantasy ever on a whim...
@zr59414 жыл бұрын
He actually wrote "Quenta Silmarillion" and other writings to explain how the languages came to be. He wrote LotR because his readers wanted more stories about hobbits.
@alek29134 жыл бұрын
@@zr5941 Hit reply to say this. Good on ya
@niicopanda4 жыл бұрын
@@zr5941 That was the biggest screeching "ACKshoeaaaalllY" I've heard in a while. But, as a Tolkien fan, I raise my glass to you. Fair point.
@luluraheem84873 жыл бұрын
He also wrote it while procrastinating something else
@-----REDACTED-----3 жыл бұрын
@@zr5941 thank you for illuminating this! ❤️ (I obviously didn’t know that!) Still a flex since LotR still is a result of that wish, innit? 😜
@ernestogcosta4 жыл бұрын
2019: Brandon, go outside 2020: Brandon, stay home.
@derekhofstetler39983 жыл бұрын
Little did we know that he writes everywhere. Yes, EVERYWHERE.
@chajavier83853 жыл бұрын
2021: Brandon, get vaccinated.
@ezioauditore60382 жыл бұрын
2021: Let's go Brandon!
@Ignikus2 жыл бұрын
@@ezioauditore6038 Heh.
@KalNertea4 жыл бұрын
"Brandon, go outside...", who needs sunlight when you have Stormlight?
@mitchierainbow73534 жыл бұрын
This is genius😄👍🏻
@jhart11274 жыл бұрын
Wooooooop there it is 🙌
@shady.passionate3 жыл бұрын
This is a bar
@Thenoobestgirl3 жыл бұрын
**ba dam tsssss!** 🥁😜👉
@alephanull19533 жыл бұрын
Pure Facts
@CanadaAtheist4 жыл бұрын
To get into Lord of the rings as a beginner, it might be better to read The Hobbit before the Trilogy.
@AKdsad1004 жыл бұрын
@Arshia Rajabi It is a book for children...
@michaelwatson35494 жыл бұрын
I'd watch the films first. Gets you to know the characters then read the books. Do not watch the Hobbit films though (how do you get three movies out of such a short book)
@Luke-cp2jz4 жыл бұрын
Johnny McCann the dwarves fell into the background too though. like the only memorable dwarves were bombur and thorin from the books. fili, kili, oin, gloin, etc never did anything really so i feel even in the books they served little to no purpose.
@edh70714 жыл бұрын
The Hobbit comes before the trilogy in a chronological sense, but I read the trilogy first (nearly 50 years ago - God, I'm old!) and I never regretted not having read The Hobbit first. LTR was the "big thing" among college students in the late 60s. There were even T-shirts that read: "Frodo Lives!", so you had to have read the book to be in on what's happening.
@johnnymccann77974 жыл бұрын
edh yeah, it doesn’t really matter much what you read first, it would still make sense. IDK, the Hobbit is just my favourite book and would love more people to read it
@MrHaganenoEdward5 жыл бұрын
Levels of fantasy books based on reading difficulty: 1. Kid's first fantasy 2. Easy to get into 3. Intermediate 4. Advanced 5. Really advanced 6. What the hell is this???? 7. Please help me! 8. Why, oh god, why?!!! 9. I just can't anymore.... 10. Malazan book of the Fallen
@AlanDantes764 жыл бұрын
lol Agreed. Still trying to discover the will to start on Memories of Ice.
@StephSinalco4 жыл бұрын
:D :D I'm reading the second book in the Malazan series and I won't lie : English not being my mother tongue, I'm struggling quite a lot... I had read the first one few years ago, read it again a second time (easier once you know the story), maybe I'll do the same with Deadhouse Gates
@glenndhorallmyxlvntx92944 жыл бұрын
LOL so true your list!
@AmberMarrrie4 жыл бұрын
MrHaganenoEdward this made me laugh so much
@bobbybax23604 жыл бұрын
Speed readers beware! Unless you are the kind of person who can speed read Differential Equations.
@SlackwareNVM3 жыл бұрын
16:45 As Merphy was falling, she was like "The book, Daniel, save the book!", not knowing how Dan treats his own books.
@AleksandarIvanov693 жыл бұрын
Or how heavily medicated he was
@michaelcherokee89062 жыл бұрын
@@AleksandarIvanov69 What?
@michaelcherokee89062 жыл бұрын
Um... Are you aware of how she treats HER books?
@drishti88222 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcherokee8906 you don't wanna disturb them.
@Its_Mara_C Жыл бұрын
@@michaelcherokee8906h
@unrulyjulie43825 жыл бұрын
To me, Tolkein's writing style is pure magic itself. It one of my favorite things about the whole LOTR world!
@christopherrowley75065 жыл бұрын
I really like that in LOTR the narrator has a real voice, it feels like you're being told a story. In some ways it also feels like you are reading an old primary source manuscript, and that adds a lot of immersion. I kind of hate that voiceless 3rd person limited viewpoint that has taken over in most modern fantasies: the authors don't care at all about style, only content. Lord of the Rings is poetic and quotable, Wheel of Time (as much as I love it) is neither of those things.
@unrulyjulie43825 жыл бұрын
@@christopherrowley7506 ... You are correct. The styles are very different. LOTR's after all is really The Red Book of Westmarch written by Bilbo and Frodo in narrative form. Hobbits have very poetic souls, as did Tolkien.
@buchdrache14095 жыл бұрын
@@christopherrowley7506 Hard agree!
@joeschmoe36655 жыл бұрын
Fully agree it's only growing as a gem since more and more modern fantasy adopt more accessible writing
@CoolAsianGuy4 жыл бұрын
YES
@thebookishmel4 жыл бұрын
the two of you have SUCH a great dynamic filmimg together omg im disappointed i'm seeing this video a YEAR LATER and adore these recommendations!
@divyanshutiwari63444 жыл бұрын
Same
@indianflippingart95932 жыл бұрын
@@divyanshutiwari6344 hello tiwari ji
@divyanshutiwari63442 жыл бұрын
@@indianflippingart9593 ji aap kaun?
@merphynapier425 жыл бұрын
Be sure to check out the video we did together on Daniel's channel too! Also, if any of these books interested you, be sure to check out the links I left in the description! It took me a looooooong time to put them all there 😅
@ryanratchford25305 жыл бұрын
Merphy Napier 30 minutes of Daniel & merpht!!? Yes please
@johnsumner65935 жыл бұрын
That was great, too bad you too live so far away
@reetisarkar3925 жыл бұрын
Hey Merphy, I'm trying to buy An Unkindness of Magicians through your link - the direct landing page is on the hardcover though? Do you know if it still counts as an affiliate sale if I thereby switch to a used paperback from that landing page? (I prefer to buy used books. It's an environment thing!)
@cremigproductions3775 жыл бұрын
stop buying books on amazon. go to your local book store!
@NPC-hj4me5 жыл бұрын
Merphy Napier, Do you have a thing for Daniel?
@NekoMouser4 жыл бұрын
The Mistborn series is one of the tighest I ever read. You get to the end of the last page in the third book and you feel as if the author knew exactly where he'd be and how he'd get there from page 1 of book 1. It just all came into play and you realize clues were laid out two books before for things that pay off in book three, and not in that "they threw a lot of mud at the wall early on so that they could make something pay off and look like a genius, even though a lot of things didn't pay off" way. It felt like every word had purpose and intent all the way through. It's impressive.
@sebastianolives8068 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. I think its because brandon kind of wrote all 3 books all at once so it all ties together really well.
@Trepur349 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the first thing I did after finishing the 3rd book was I read book 1 again. Mainly to examine Ruin's influence on the plot of the first book.
@liara32485 жыл бұрын
"If you haven't read Lord of the Rings I think you're a bad person" I like him.
@mrvulture89815 жыл бұрын
Daniel Greene is amazing. His channel is really good
@Noeton5 жыл бұрын
@@zlee001 He did though :)
@jeffreylazarusbuggy47875 жыл бұрын
I read it like seven times, my alltime favorite.
@wabisabi77555 жыл бұрын
Lock me up for wickedness.
@fcv46165 жыл бұрын
I haven't read them yet, but I plan to. I guess I have some redemption in me, lol.
@patrick_dy3r4 жыл бұрын
It's not a Daniel and Merphy crossover episode unless Daniel praises Wheel of Time and Merphy praises The Lies of Locke Lamora.
@carenzaspence18975 жыл бұрын
I grew up reading Pratchett, love so many of his books.
@erinaa94865 жыл бұрын
Yeah Pratchett is amazing!! Very much comic fantasy/satire though
@squngy02 жыл бұрын
@@erinaa9486 Pratchett is more of a fantasy/parody then a fantasy/satire. A parody is laughing with the original, a satire is laughing at it.
@rriggs65472 жыл бұрын
@@squngy0 Pratchett did a fair bit of both. Lots of parody and satire though the satire is often far more subtle.
@dusbus23844 жыл бұрын
I think reading the hobbit first in the LOTR series makes the books as a whole easier to read. I read the hobbit as a kid (which shows how easy it is to read/comprehend) and didn't read the rest of the series until high school after rereading the hobbit.
@JoeK75 жыл бұрын
This was amazing, so happy my favourite booktubers are collaborating with each other in person now! :D
@serareads96125 жыл бұрын
JK7. just came to comment the same thing 😂
@Tmg-045 жыл бұрын
JK7. Yes
@ZedsDeadBaby1175 жыл бұрын
yea the seemed to be having a great time and i was smiling along with them
@Kureabear4 жыл бұрын
Personally I recommend Earthsea to everyone who wants to get into fantasy. The writing is beautiful!
@janiniweeny4 жыл бұрын
I loved Earthsea aswell😊❤️
@pstandlee4 жыл бұрын
It’s hands down the best fantasy writing besides Tolkien.
@catinthehat9064 жыл бұрын
Agreed Ursula Le Guin was a genius- RIP. Two other recommendations for stories whose authors have sadly died in the last few years. Gene Wolfe- The Shadow of the Torturer and subsequent series- won the World Fantasy Award Julian May - The Many Colored Land and subsequent series ( although categorized by many as SF it is essentially fantasy).
@NekoMouser4 жыл бұрын
I love Earthsea, too. And that it isn't your typical plot for fantasy, either, which is very nice.
@alwaysopen79703 жыл бұрын
Sounds gay.
@lostinabookcase37965 жыл бұрын
"Sticking with out Sanderson theme-" *Picks up Harry Potter*
@natyreadsbooks24845 жыл бұрын
lost in a booKCase i laughed so hard lol
@henrynelson1765 жыл бұрын
complete opposite lol
@reesespisces99565 жыл бұрын
LOL
@dubinmarks14 жыл бұрын
I tend to think of LOTR as Advanced but this is because I was introduced to it with reading the silmarillion as book 1... I regret nothing...
@Flying_Scotsman_19215 жыл бұрын
Malazan book of the fallen is amazing.. gets really good from book 3 onwards (although book 1 is still one of my favourites on the re-read). I also love Robin Hobb's Farseer trilogy, fantasy at its best.
@TNorville1015 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know much about fantasy, but have read “Kingkiller” and “Gentleman Bastards”, before I got to Mistborn. I was in NY for a work trip, and stopped at a Barnes N Nobles. I saw Mistborn, picked it up, and it opened up my world to so many great stories! It led me to WOT and StormLight Archives (naturally). Best random pick up of my life!
@junkyardheaven5 жыл бұрын
"His dark materials" trilogy by Philip Pullman is genious. Don't make the mistake of watching the movie-adaption of the first book, though. Awaiting the BBC/HBO series with terrified joy! :)
@fardareismai44955 жыл бұрын
The movie was aesthetically beautiful, I loved it for that, separate from the books, the books will always be better.
@ardin14375 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I didn't find that series particularly interesting. They were solid books, but not ones I would compliment or consider great.
@9252635 жыл бұрын
They're average at best. Some SUPER boring parts of it that just dragged and dragged, and a ridiculously pathetic big bad
@nevillethedevil30415 жыл бұрын
I have all the series just haven’t gotten to it. Also, the movie isn’t that bad :)
@Mjot1014 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I read these books when I was really young so I don't remember enough to have a nuanced opinion but I remember loving them. I'm hoping the HBO show follows in the footsteps of my other favourite childhood books, A Series of Unfortunate Events. The movie for that was horrible, didn't capture the themes at all, made the most important character (Violet) completely useless and unimportant, and turned the villain into a completely comedic character with no dark/sinister side. The Netflix series completely made up for all that. It quickly became one of my favourite TV shows ever (although season 1 is a bit rough).
@themaster51733 жыл бұрын
Merphy: Kingkiller is Daniel’s favourite right now. Wheel of Time: *Sad noises*
@michalkrsik27023 жыл бұрын
I missed the fact that it was a joke as well :D Ïn another video he puts the series very low on the list.
@007scraps5 жыл бұрын
Robin Hobb's three trilogies based on FitzChivalry and the Fool are excellent. In addition, Raymond E Feist's Riftwar series based on Pug and subsequent series are quite excellent too.
@Skabanis5 жыл бұрын
I read feists books 30 years ago
@pipparoberts71305 жыл бұрын
I hated Robin Hobbs ' books. Read the trilogy about the assassin's apprentice, and found them really lonely, sad, horrible books...
@thehoogard5 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I can't stand the riftwar books. The only goods ones are in the collab with Janny Wurts, The Daughter of The Empire books. Those are excellent.
@Covenantt6665 жыл бұрын
@@pipparoberts7130 Then don't read any of the other series, cause there all lonely and sad. That's whats make 'em good. :-)
@Covenantt6665 жыл бұрын
The Riftwar is a superb series. The problem I have with his later books is that they're very uneven. Both between books and in them. He's written some really good ones but also some "meh".
@jpetersen7495 жыл бұрын
Notice the shelves at 10:49 when she says "... Is up there with Sanderson" - Oathbringer and WoR tumble as if they heard it
@hichellehakedal88835 жыл бұрын
Daniel's face when you bring out The King Killer series lol!
@merphynapier425 жыл бұрын
I know 😂
@DadTales5 жыл бұрын
They are also my favourite and I was like him: "Yaaayyy Pat! Pat! Pat!". You both should try play Tak, the game of the book ;)
@1NOHERO5 жыл бұрын
@@merphynapier42 that book got me into reading and since then i read 100s of books
@avijitklodh5 жыл бұрын
I read almost every book in the video and they are all amazing but Kingkiller chronicle really captivates my heart, in a way no series ever has. Daniel's reaction is so relatable!
@snowrs15 жыл бұрын
That second book though, ugh
@FairyRosee_4 жыл бұрын
"Excited for book three" of the Kingkiller Chronicles. Oh sweet summer child..
@Delthfaithe4 жыл бұрын
Don´t trigger me......*sigh*.....
@bassguitar19193 жыл бұрын
This is what holds me back from reading The Name of the Wind.....I read all of Game of Thrones thinking surely at least one more book would come out during that time....eh no. I refuse to even think of touching King Killer Chronicle until he comes out with the 3rd installment.....whenever that is.
@georgethompson14603 жыл бұрын
@@calebmauer1751 Also the name of the wind is overrated in the first place so...
@pepperonipony17513 жыл бұрын
Legends say they were waiting for book three until the very end of their days.
@evavangelder46633 жыл бұрын
Sure I'd like for it to come out soon, but if an author isn't ready to bring it out, they aren't, if they're way too much of a perfectionist, so be it.
@nikolayiliev89853 жыл бұрын
The Malazan book of the fallen series is hands down the most complicated fantasy series ever written IMO :)
@Kirovish2 жыл бұрын
I used to think so too, but since then I read a couple of series that, well I wouldnt say are harder to read, but more harder to get a grasp on. The second aocalypse and Gene WOlf's books of the new sun series are two good examples of that.
@tevildo45 Жыл бұрын
Gene Wolfe is so good. He never gets a mention
@bullchargersc Жыл бұрын
I had to look at the character index constantly, also one of the few book series to get actual tears from me.
@djb160098 ай бұрын
Agree. Why is it hard/advanced? Many books in the series, each book is large. Massive cast. Keeping up with WoT or GoT is a piece of cake in comparison. No easing into the story, you just join in at a point in time and try to keep up. Non-linear time lines, the books jump around in terms of sequence of events. Overall plot I found to be a little hard to keep track of. There's not really good guys and bad guys as such, there's just complex characters and their individual motivations The reward for the pair of reading? Some of the best characters and scenes in Fantasy Bragging rights of actually having completed this series
@SpencerJ2895 жыл бұрын
I hear at Barnes and Nobles if you buy the first 2 Kingkiller books they give you the 3rd for free right then and there
@teresaharris-travelbybooks55644 жыл бұрын
Spencer Jones, ha ha....
@colinjones53794 жыл бұрын
This is the high quality friendship I need in my fantasy books.
@LadyAmethyst1003 жыл бұрын
So true about Sanderson . I consider myself an ‘average’ reader, when I picked up The Last Empire, man I flew that! It was just such an easy, believable read, I really enjoyed it. I got so hooked, I wanted to know more about the author’s other works, enter Stormlight Archive.
@johanjarvinen5 жыл бұрын
David Eddings is another who should be still counted among the great introductions to Fantasy. Especially if you've got young family members who you don't think are ready for more adult themes. I'm personally more partial to the Elenium and Tamuli series but I suspect the Belgariad and it's sequel Malloreon is the better place to start for a teenager looking to get into fantasy.
@mpjedi23555 жыл бұрын
Other then comments i never hear a word about David Eddings! It is the series that got me into fantasy. My comfort read for decades!
@themetalpig76135 жыл бұрын
Nah, start with Elenium... Sparhawk rules! His standalone The Redemption of Althalus is apparently decent too, on my tbr list.
@LoyaFrostwind5 жыл бұрын
Eddings is classic fantasy. I remember reading these in the 80s.
@mpjedi23555 жыл бұрын
These millennials don’t know what they are missing.
@LoyaFrostwind5 жыл бұрын
@@mpjedi2355 , I know, right?
@deanie38245 жыл бұрын
I love these chill videos. You've both mentioned so many of these books before but I like how you explained why to read them in a casual way. Like anyone could connect to and like these books.
@merphynapier425 жыл бұрын
So glad you liked it!
@jothoma5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that David Eddings or Raymond E Feist didn't appear on the list as beginner fantasy. They were my gateway into Fantasy when I was a teen (and to a lesser degree was Piers Anthony, although his books have not aged well IMHO).
@russelladams91475 жыл бұрын
They were eating PPJ's in grade school not that long ago - so...
@DM-fp8uw5 жыл бұрын
Probably because they don’t hold up well today. Belgariad especially.
@Mike_W785 жыл бұрын
@@DM-fp8uw I kinda agree with Eddings but Feist series are still pretty good. The last few trilogies are bit out there but the rift war and serpent war are really good.
@johnnygirling555 жыл бұрын
How the Diamond Throne didn't make the list is a travesty!
@TaivenJanick5 жыл бұрын
agreed - the Belgariad should have made the list too
@leithagrover91163 жыл бұрын
Thank you for including Narnia. I feel a lot of people forget about one of the best series ever.
@dingdongism4 ай бұрын
You think people _forget_ about Narnia? About a series that has nearly unparalleled cultural visibility among non-fantasy readers?
@Kungen9401275 жыл бұрын
You shouldn’t skip the songs in LOTR! There’s a lot of history in them, and you get an insight into the cultures that produced them!
@merphynapier425 жыл бұрын
I knew I would get this comment 😂
@derekdurst92165 жыл бұрын
There’s a channel called Clamavi de Profundis that does a great job of taking the songs from the books and singing them. Definitely check them out, they are great
@happyreadingwatching15975 жыл бұрын
@@merphynapier42 nah I skip songs and poems all the time :)
@leithskilling5525 жыл бұрын
Oscar Nilzen love the songs, but I understand why a lot of people prefer to skip over them. But some of them are so beautiful, such as Bilbo’s “I Sit Beside The Fire”.
@ind1gnat1on5 жыл бұрын
I would say reread with the songs after you’ve read The Silmarillion
@SquashDog015 жыл бұрын
The lack of Jim Butcher (Dresden in particular) is really perplexing. I cant think of a more accessible fantasy book series than that. Funny, dark, intriguing; filled with extremely well written heroes, anti heroes, and villains, Dresden Files is one of the most well-read and popular fantasy books series in the genre. The books are basically "pulp-fantasy noir" (although that steadily changes over time as Harrys decisions continuously haunt him years after he makes them). Sanderson, and Gaiman I get as recommendations--but Butchers work (3 separate series so far) are all great, if not phenomenal.
@DJHobby5 жыл бұрын
It's hard to include everything. We all have our favorites etc... I like the Dresden Files, it's kinda cheesy at times though, BUT.... The Codex Alera is one my favorite series of all time.
@zomgelok5 жыл бұрын
I could never get into dresden files but codex of alera has to be in my top 3 of series. also if you never realized that the idea for codex started on a chat board where they were discussing what makes a book good. as in was it subject matter or the writing. so he took the concept of lost roman legion. which has been done successfully multiple times and combined it with something that at times is vilified in pokemon. you realize how great the series is.
@GloryofLlama4 жыл бұрын
I liked his Codex series more; Dresden... has some issues for me. It's interesting, lacks the world building of other fantasy. Yes, it's set in modern Chicago, but even American Gods had amazing world building. I dunno, the whole magical Roman thing caught me more haha
@hulkslayer6265 жыл бұрын
LOVE the Wheel of Time! Found book 5 for sale used and thought it looked interesting. Then realized it was a part 5... so got the first 4 and read 1-5. Then re-read 1-5 when 6 came out. Then re-read 1-6 when 7 came out, and so on and so on. Read the whole series at least 3 times through, and have skimmed the series at least another 5 or 6 times. So great.
@jacobyrassilon5 жыл бұрын
I read "The Eye of the World" on the plane back from Saudi Arabia after the first Gulf War (yea, I'm old, sue me!) and was hooked forever more. It is my second favorite series of all times behind LOTR. I'm scared of what Amazon will do with the TV series, but hoping for the best.
@navystylz4 жыл бұрын
Loved Wheel of Time until I read more books. Good series, but gets bloated and repetitive and then just got plain bored. Sanderson finishing them picked the pace back up for me.
@evavangelder46633 жыл бұрын
I'm also standing up for Terry Pratchett here. I'm now at 28 out of >40 Discworld books and it just gets better with every book
@rriggs65472 жыл бұрын
I was not disappointed with any of his Discworld books. I am still looking for a copy of The Carpet People, but I have every other book of his.
@desireeparker656 Жыл бұрын
I read Hogfather as my first Pratchett. No regrets! I love the Wee Free Men and the Guilds and the Watchmen and the Witches and all the things that make up Discworld. I see his influence in other books and Tv shows sometimes
@suestreet9934 Жыл бұрын
Beginner to advanced fantasy and ‘I’ve never read any Terry Pratchett’?
@k.coleman9317 Жыл бұрын
Pratchett is too subtle for skippy up there in the video...he obviously doesn't get metaphor and allegory (Narnia), so the brilliant satire of Pratchett will pass him right by...
@felipealonso78595 жыл бұрын
I started reading fantasy with ASOIF and then I got into Malazan ... I regret nothing , great reads , specially Malazan , I'm still reading into the Malazan world.
@Velsero4 жыл бұрын
As someone who thinks the MBotF is an outstanding series I've read through twice and listened through twice, A.) I do not love the series. Those are not tears of joy it is milking, and B.) I never recommend it to anyone. I do say "it's a phenomenal series, but Erikson is like if Ayn Rand wanted you to be a good, compassionate person. Erikson hates cruelty, and wants you to hate it, too. Try it, start with the second and third books, and do it audio. Erikson is better heard than read. If you don't like those, you wont like any, and end the relationship."
@dougkelly89564 жыл бұрын
@@Velsero Interesting. This is literally the first time I've seen anyone say that Malazan is even viable on audiobook, let alone better. The consensus is generally that it's complicated enough that keeping track of things in a one-shot format is tough - you generally have to scan back and re-read sections etc. I may finally be heading into a phase of my life that I can give Malazan a shot, but we'll see.
@purusingh60853 жыл бұрын
When I finished the video , I felt something strange about me because I have read 4 of the 5 advanced category series before reading a majority of the beginner and intermediate category books.
@morehbein62074 жыл бұрын
Perfect introduction in my opinion: Ranger's Apprentice
@tegelstenen41784 жыл бұрын
Read like 10+ of these as some of my first fantasy books, and it is still one of my favourite series
@tegelstenen41784 жыл бұрын
@ThePiedPiper And Piers It's set in a medieval setting with knights and rangers and monarchies and such, having, as you said, its own mythical creatures. It's set in another world with other sets of classes and professions and rules, so I'd say it's pretty much the archetype of a fantasy. A book doesn't have to be full of magic to be considered a fantasy.
@mkk39844 жыл бұрын
OMG YES. I love Ranger’s Apprentice, although I’m not exactly sure if most of it classifies as fantasy. I still am not over it
@ruud97614 жыл бұрын
Also a good book to get a young kid to read. Started reading it at age 10 and with harry potter it turned me into a lover of almost any good book.
@Jesse_andrew3 жыл бұрын
Depends on your age tbh kids would totally love them (Also Brotherband series) but teens or YA would find them pretty boring
@sineadjenks53252 жыл бұрын
This was the first video I found on KZbin of people talking about books. THIS is when I discovered booktube 2y ago and decided to read all the books on this list and follow you and Daniel. I've never looked back since. I watch both your videos religiously and have loved coming back to this first video of yours that I watched to reflect on how much you have both grown and encouraged my love of reading ❤️ I love you guys.
@LH_Vagrant3 жыл бұрын
Beginner: Hobb's Fitz nonology (Farseer trilogy, Tawny Man trilogy and Fitz and the Fool trilogy) In my opinion one of the finest fantasy series and certainly one suited to novice readers. The magic system isn't complicated, the politics aren't too dense and the main character is highly relatable. Since the series consists of three trilogies, it's not very daunting to start with. Intermediate: Jordan's WoT Lots of reading material with a plethora of names, extended plot lines and grand scale events. However, the number of *prominent* characters is somewhat limited, the magic system isn't too complicated and plot is easy to follow. Advanced: King's The Dark Tower Long, bizarre, even more bizarre and requires knowledge of King's other books to be fully appreciated. Luckily the number of characters is limited, the magic system is barely existent and the separate events in the story are fairly straightforward. Off the charts: Erikson's Malazan Book of the Fallen Long, half a million characters and plot lines, difficult to grasp, complicated magic/god system and did I mention there are a *KAJILLION* characters?
@thehybrid2102 жыл бұрын
Could you tell me the other King books I'd have to read before The Dark Tower series?
@biscottone33572 жыл бұрын
Perfection!
@nicholastaylor96872 жыл бұрын
Three Trilogies for Hobb? Why are we ignoring the Liveship Traders trilogy and the Rainwild Chronicles?
@LH_Vagrant2 жыл бұрын
@@nicholastaylor9687 Because, while those are series within the Realm of the Elderlings, they're not directly part of the Fitz series.
@taliabatten60422 жыл бұрын
I personally think that while I adore hobbs fitz stuff, it's a intermidiate book because the first book is slow for a good couple chapters and I've read books way faster than it But once it gets started omfg it's the best
@amusicalbookworm5 жыл бұрын
“Daniel posts videos 6 days a week, cuz he’s insane.” “Actually, it’s 7.” “Are you serious?!” Lolol
@Ras1375 жыл бұрын
"Daniel...Go Outside!"
@totallysick88able3 жыл бұрын
Reading WOT on a kindle makes it a lot easier. When I forget who a character is, I just click on then name and bam! I have everything I need to know
@crestfallenwarrior69963 жыл бұрын
I recently finished the first book and picked up the second. How are you liking WoT?
@totallysick88able3 жыл бұрын
@@crestfallenwarrior6996 I’m hooked! In book two things really start to heat up.
@wilson17283 жыл бұрын
shit i need to try that I am so dumb
@atron19833 жыл бұрын
@@crestfallenwarrior6996 I read wot and while the first few books were good I found the rest brutal. This is just my personal opinion though yours may differ. I am an avid fantasy reader and I honestly don't know how this series became so popular besides the length of it. The last few books when Sanderson took over aren't too bad and I wouldn't go back in time and tell my past self not to read them but not the hype as what people claim.
@Zivilin3 жыл бұрын
Personally i never had any problem following WoT when i read the series in early 2000s. I breezed though the books rather easily.
@Booksandheather5 жыл бұрын
Pausing the video at Narnia to pass my two cents: I kinda agree that it hasn't aged well in regards to what is currently on the market. However, I read the entire series, from beginning to end, to my fifth grade class two years ago. This class hated reading so much but they'd beg to bring their lunch to the classroom to hear more. I just had a former student from that class find me on IG and send me a message that he is going through the hardest time in his life right now, but he remembered Narnia and has reread the series and now wants more fantasy. I think it is an excellent door for children, even if it fails in comparison as an adult reader. WITH THE EXCEPTION of The Horse and His Boy and The Last Battle. I think those two could team up and fight with some of the greats. :)
@rev.enant733 жыл бұрын
Definitely should have included Malazan Book of the Fallen in Advanced, also think Tad Williams Memory, Sorrow, & Thorn would fit well in the Advanced category.
@atharvadeshpande47492 жыл бұрын
Both of them had not read Malazan at the time. And neither of them probably not read Tad Williams.
@InfiniteQuest865 жыл бұрын
Awww, I would love to see Jonathon Strange & Mr. Norrell get some more fantasy love!
@grassygnoll33454 жыл бұрын
Agree. You definitely have to get used to the style but once you've done that it's pure gold.
@jamieserrano8275 жыл бұрын
As an introduction to urban fantasy the Dresden files is great, because it mixes your standard poke detective novel with a dash of magic
@steveexotic18253 жыл бұрын
I read all the way up to Changes and got bored.
@rriggs65472 жыл бұрын
@@steveexotic1825 I threw my book when I read the last couple paragraphs of Changes.
@Yotanido4 жыл бұрын
22:35 Actually it's " *A* Game of Thrones" Sorry
@captainblubber4 жыл бұрын
Great job! I actually wanted to make that comment...
@BenDover-fo3bi4 жыл бұрын
Who cares
@bughead56154 жыл бұрын
*YES!*
@bughead56154 жыл бұрын
@@BenDover-fo3bi lol I do
@davidmauriciogutierrezespi52444 жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone did mention it because it irk me
@sanjithechef3 жыл бұрын
Just started the final empire in the mistborn trilogy because of this video. I listened to the first chapter through audiobook from the library, but now I own the novel and am really enjoying the second chapter. I’m glad you guys suggested it for beginners, otherwise I would have waited ages before attempting something so highly regarded
@lesterismyname5 жыл бұрын
Malazan and Black Company. Both solid. Dresden Files is also worth reading through. Especially with the next book coming out soon.
@naseemnasir4 жыл бұрын
Very surprised that the Malazan books are not in the list. Maybe the presenters haven't read them?
@bramvanduijn80862 жыл бұрын
@@naseemnasir The list only goes up to advanced, Malazan is quite a bit higher than that. Though it might be because I started in the middle. Toll The Hounds, IIRC.
@mojopie5 жыл бұрын
Only 5 minutes into this video so far but it's already a really fun one with great recommendations! I love that Daniel gushes about Good Omens for a hot sec because it's also one of my faves! And Neil Gaiman is a writing god in my opinion, I will always read and recommend his books! They're just so enjoyable
@mojopie5 жыл бұрын
Just got to Merphy's Neil Gaiman gush, The Ocean at the End of the Lane is one of those books that slowly seeps into you, i didn't realise how much I was truly loving it until about halfway through, but only because I was too engrossed to notice 💜
@PhillipReed775 жыл бұрын
Mallazan book of the fallen is expert level. Damn is it hard to read. But worth it.
@cms535 жыл бұрын
Phillip Reed I have a thing where if I try to read something 3 times and don’t finish it I just put it on the shelf. Thankfully I got hooked on malazan on the third attempt
@booksandocha5 жыл бұрын
I think the first book can throw people off, since it is written in a rather different style, but once you get into the series, it does not get much more epic than that. And even in the midst of all that scale, Erikson manages to keep his focus on some absolutely amazing characters.
@hobosportgaming94065 жыл бұрын
Was waiting to hear about Malazan... other than the word count I mean. Definitely takes more effort than any relatively mainstream high fantasy I've read, but so damn rewarding.
@WaywardSon15 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I can agree that a book that's hard to read can be "expert level". Sounds like it could've used a harsher editor.
@PhillipReed775 жыл бұрын
WaywardSon I disagree. It’s jarring being dropped in to the middle of a story and having no idea who these people are but it’s different and pays off in the long run. That doesn’t mean it’s poorly written, it’s refreshing if you hang with it. The complexity comes from the lack of handholding or exposition. The world building is amazing though if non traditional and the characters are awesome.
@mordyth4 жыл бұрын
She's just so damn cute. And he's Daniel. What a combo
@coreyklaustermeier73294 жыл бұрын
Mordyth I know she always talks about how much she respects him, but when she does videos with him it seems like he annoys her. I don’t know for sure but that’s just how I see it.
@abeybekalu95364 жыл бұрын
@@coreyklaustermeier7329 Strange
@toenailairconditioner74064 жыл бұрын
Corey Klaustermeier I reckon it's just them being playful. I constantly annoy my friends but they keep me around.
@ozkan5764 жыл бұрын
@@coreyklaustermeier7329 I don't get that vibe at all, pretty sure it's all just them goofing around
@matthewmeiring65214 жыл бұрын
I agree with Tony Phan and Ozkan, I think that the tension is really them just trying to keep the video serious, but it makes them look like they can't stand to be in the same room.
@jordanreadsalot5 жыл бұрын
love Brandon Sanderson i have the Stormlight Archives series, Mistborn series and the Reckoners series i'm a huge fan
@M.I.D.5 жыл бұрын
My top 5 not listed 1 Dragonlance Chronicles- Tasslehoff Burrfoot and Flint Fireforge, nuf said 2 Steven Brust- The Khaavren Romances 3 David Eddings- The Belgariad 4 Robin Hobb- Liveship Traders Trilogy 5 Michael Moorcock- Elric of Melnibone
@praetorxyn5 жыл бұрын
Robin Hobb's Realm of the Elderlings (of which Liveship is the second Trilogy) is amazing. I just finished Fitz and the Fool a week or three ago.
@racer2c5 жыл бұрын
The guy has a "thing" against any book over 5 years old barring LotR so don't expect much from his "lists"
@praetorxyn5 жыл бұрын
@@racer2c Not sure where you're getting that rom. He's talked about all kinds of ancient sci-fi and fantasy before in a very positive light. I think the worst you could say is that if it'sa LOTR copy / paste he finds it boring.
@veljadimic45275 жыл бұрын
3 and 5 my personal favourites...
@Miv51miv515 жыл бұрын
Ohh Dragonlance is sooo good. One of my favorit along with the Drizzt books('mainstream' I know, sue me).
@cooperbarham24655 жыл бұрын
Hey now, "The Graveyard Book" is my favorite of Gaiman's library. Mind you I've only read six or seven of his novels, but still.
@NancyLebovitz3 жыл бұрын
The Wizard of Earthsea by Ursula Le Guin is a good beginner book. Set on a world with no connection to ours-- it's all small islands. Ged is a young man with magical talent-- magic comes from knowing true names. He makes one mistake early on, and spends the book dealing with it. There are dragons.
@noonlemur5 жыл бұрын
"Christian fantasy" made me laugh, because even if it's...sorta....true, there are a bunch of Christians out there who have a lot of issues with Good Omens. think i'd call it religious satire?
@daviderwin47055 жыл бұрын
Yes, Gaiman's work treats any religion as myth. Funny that they mentioned C.S. Lewis shortly after. Narnia really is Christian fantasy.
@noonlemur5 жыл бұрын
@@daviderwin4705 ohh yeah. Never really realized it when I read Narnia as a kid, just loved the idea of another world/the settings (esp. in The Magician's Nephew/The Dawn Treader)...the religious overtones didn't really bother me because they just felt like borrowed mythology/another part of the story, nothing overtly manipulative. Now that I'm older, what does bother me is the racism...
@christopherbacon10775 жыл бұрын
The sort of people who would have a problem with that are the same people who think the Left Behind series is good writing so I dismiss them
@jordancox37495 жыл бұрын
I feel like they are both atheists (which is a compliment) - and this book is a exposé of how religion is ridiculous
@jonsnor43135 жыл бұрын
Heaven help us is a good satire about religion, the author is good in general (but died last year in old age). I would say a nieche classic author, lovely but bizarre, and heaven help us is pretty much mocking christinity in that manner, but not really too mean.
@booknerdwithlipstick5 жыл бұрын
Such a good video ! Having both your different perspectives on books give such a more complete portrait of the recommendations and makes it so richer (and entertaining). 💕
@merphynapier425 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it!
@jefferyedoherty4 жыл бұрын
Merphy, The Graveyard Book is brilliant. I read it and thought, "I will never be this good as a writer."
@r.m.l.54873 жыл бұрын
The Witcher was my introduction into fantasy last year (if you don't count the childrens / YA books I read over 10 years ago). Really loved it and now I am enjoying other fantasy as well since the age of 25. Lot to catch up on :')
@leslieisepic5 жыл бұрын
I love the Broken Earth trilogy! I read the first book last summer, then I read books 2 & 3 earlier this year back to back. Each book flows seamlessly into the next so that it really just feels like one long novel. Highly recommend it. Best adult dystopian I've read and it'd be hard to top it.
@homoxymoronomatura4 жыл бұрын
The Witcher is for me probably the best fantasy book series. Characters are well developed, story is complex, there are very well narrative tricks used in story and many more.
@matteostanzani3752 жыл бұрын
I agree
@saturated38214 жыл бұрын
The first time I read Lord of the Rings in my native language, I was ten years old and I think that version may have been condensed or simplified because I loved it. Then when I was 13, I read it in English. And my English was not good at all at the time. The old style description of scenery nearly did me in but I was just stubborn enough to struggle through it although I didn't enjoy it at all. I learned a lot - I had to keep a dictionary next to me while reading... re-reading it as an adult I did enjoy it, though I can see how people would not love the trilogy.
@narut92423 жыл бұрын
ROBIN HOBB’s Realm of the Elderlings is so underrated. I loved the Farseer Trilogy and all the books in the series
@LocoDirewolf5 жыл бұрын
Another good series to add to this list would be Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn by Tad Williams.
@princess20-sideddie955 жыл бұрын
Or the Shadowmarch series or War of the Flowers for a standalone or his Bobby Dollar series for urban fantasy or Otherland for sci-fi fantasy...Tad Williams is amazing! (Is it obvious that I'm a fan?)
@Luke-nn4pm4 жыл бұрын
“Brandon, go outside.” That particular comment didn’t age well
@depapa7014 жыл бұрын
🤣
@paulbreakable33024 жыл бұрын
why? can you explain that please?
@technicaldeathmetalhead4 жыл бұрын
@@paulbreakable3302 Coronavirus .. you must be from Arrakis
@kohakuaiko4 жыл бұрын
You can still go outside; you just have to avoid people.
@sf808yt4 жыл бұрын
@@kohakuaiko my life. every day. :)
@Rajathon5 жыл бұрын
On Lord of the Rings I think you should read the Hobbit first. It was easier for me.
@christianmagrum32825 жыл бұрын
Rajathon yes honestly I’ve had some trouble reading the trilogy
@Rajathon5 жыл бұрын
@@christianmagrum3282 Me too loved the Hobbit but by the Return of the King I struggled to finish. Maybe the writing style wasn't for me.
@carlwilliams96425 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm surprised they didn't mention The Hobbit in intro fantasy. It's an excellent intro into classic fantasy and a great stepping stone into Lord of the Rings.
@ginge6415 жыл бұрын
Lord of the Rings is a slog to read and the characters are indistinguishable.
@stormydavis58605 жыл бұрын
The Hobbit = Beginner The Fellowship of the Ring = Intermediate The Two Towers = Expert The Return of the King = Intermediate Imo
@canonicall3 жыл бұрын
The way of Kings has some of the best moments I have ever encountered in a book. Kaladin goes down as one of my all time favorite characters because of this. Still following the series so we'll have to wait and see if he stays as great of a character as we all want him to be.
@cassandrac74914 жыл бұрын
The fact that my two favourite booktubers are friends has me dYiNg I love you guys so much
@skijumpnose5 жыл бұрын
Nice to see Neil Gaiman being represented and of course the almighty Brandon Sanderson (Bone is a good fantasy adventure too)
@sable_in_march5 жыл бұрын
I know I am completely off point. But it's funny to see a commenter that you are used to seeing on a different channel. I know you from Suri&Noel. KZbin seems to be such a small community😉
@Joshmosis2.05 жыл бұрын
Say one thing for Logen Ninefingers, say he agrees with your praise of the works of Joe Abercrombie.
@klajdikucana15984 жыл бұрын
You have to be realistic about these things (srry i had to🤣)
@shouvikroychoudhury79084 жыл бұрын
@@klajdikucana1598 got to be*
@greyman63533 жыл бұрын
You can never have too many books
@laura_h3834 жыл бұрын
Mistborn is honestly my favorite series even though I have read every book in this video and many more. It is just so beautiful and amazing and I love it soooooooo much
@DonovanGG__ Жыл бұрын
Yeah Mistborn is amazing, its my 3rd favorite behind Stormlight Archive and Lord of the Rings
@darindaxd Жыл бұрын
How about broken earth???
@Sunzu495 жыл бұрын
Ever since I got into BookTube, I've noticed how highly praised Brandon Sanderson has been. Will try to read the Mistborn trilogy next year, hopefully!
@LagMasterSam5 жыл бұрын
His writing gets better over time. Mistborn is pretty good, but his more recent writing is amazing. His latest book "Skyward" is spectacular. It's on another level compared to his previous writing.
@elorahbillustrator5 жыл бұрын
If you like mistborn his other books are great too and they're all connected in a way so keep an eye out for similar characters
@AxeBearWhoCares4 жыл бұрын
I’m reading skyward right now and it’s really good.
@jameshightower88755 жыл бұрын
Advanced Level: Book of the New Sun. Probably one of the most complex fantasy series you can find
@AustinBeeman3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing like it. :chefs kiss:
@alysonserenastone29175 жыл бұрын
One of my friends attempted to get into fantasy and started with A Song of Ice and Fire. Didn't understand it and hasn't picked up fantasy again. I agree with having ASOIAF on the advanced fantasy. It is hard to get into, but once you stick it out, it is an amazing series.
@a_bookish_gemini5 жыл бұрын
Alyson Serena Stone I think the level of violence and sex is just not everybody’s cup of tea; that was definitely something I had to get used to aside from the large number of characters.
@alysonserenastone29175 жыл бұрын
@@a_bookish_gemini That too. It takes forever to figure everyone out and it is so violent.
@maddiedhiya96594 жыл бұрын
It’s the complete opposite for me, I started with ASoIaF and became obsessed with fantasy thereafter.
@alysonserenastone29174 жыл бұрын
@@maddiedhiya9659 I could see that happening as well. It is such a rich story. :)
@lsschwartz4 жыл бұрын
I’m sorely missing seeing Robin Hobb on this list!
@doha42583 жыл бұрын
add her yourself!! which series would you put where; im curious!! i've been wanting to add her to my tbr (well not her, herself, but i mean you get it)
@asnark71152 жыл бұрын
He also put First Law in the middle category, behind several series which are decidedly simplistic and flat. I think they missed a few dimensions in their analysis and put a lot of emphasis on style points and appeal to readership. To be fair, I think they read purely for escapism and immersion, rather than reflection and horizon broadening. The base of the people in their comments seem the same.
@taliabatten60422 жыл бұрын
Ikr
@lusalma54042 жыл бұрын
Not enough women period - Tamora Pierce, Mercedes Lackey, Robin McKinley, Patricia McKillip, Michelle Sagara, Juliet Marillier and Naomi Novik
@89blue12 жыл бұрын
@@asnark7115 What would be your top choices in beginner, intermediate and advanced for the criteria you care about
@guadalupebouza23524 жыл бұрын
I really love Ursula Le Guin's Earthsea series
@andyyoo8018 Жыл бұрын
YES! I just finished it, and she is such a good worldbuilder.
@cassidychivers4 жыл бұрын
I feel like we need an updated list for the two of you!!! or even sic-fi!
@thomasmoore50625 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised that Tad Williams’ Memory Sorrow and Thorn trilogy didn’t make your list! (George RR Martin even claims it as a significant influence).
@jbailey5145 жыл бұрын
Look at these two, they haven't even picked it up.
@TheNumb964 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised actually. Not a lot of people seem to have read it. Its amazing though. And its influence on a song of ice and fire is really obvious. They feel very similar
@jiunjuan3 жыл бұрын
Daniel, "That is a fact of life." Merphy, with a HUGE smile, "Disagree!" Love it!
@alexanderdemuynck6205 жыл бұрын
I'm a little disappointed Malazan didn't make the list but otherwise great video. Love the collabs between you two!
@TaigaGaoo5 жыл бұрын
Because neither of them have read them or read them that much. Daniel, from what I know, have read until Memories of Ice, but he read it 2nd instead of third so his opinion was.. kinda screwed a bit? I don't really know how to say it, but yeah. Once he reviewed Deathhouse Gate he was complaining or calling it a flaw that they changed the characters because he was already attached to the others, and I was like "Yeah, that's why the books are made so you shift between continents and characters, so you don't get attached to just one side" You can read the 3 books of each continent one after the other, but that's only recommended as a 2nd time read, not as your first, because not only you spoil yourself some things, but you are also making it harder on yourself because more thing are going to make less sense.
@willprotector5 жыл бұрын
I am not sure if either have read enough Malazan to really be able to recommend it yet. Daniel has read three, but I don't know if Merphy has or not.
@alexanderdemuynck6205 жыл бұрын
@@willprotector honestly every time Merphy talks about things she doesn't like in literature... she describes Malazan lol
@pusonhands5 жыл бұрын
they didn't make it to expert level
@lesterismyname5 жыл бұрын
Malazan is not intro fantasy. I'd say something like the Chronicles of the Black Company would be more accessible. It is grim military fantasy fiction but it is easy to read.
@allypotter44044 жыл бұрын
I have recently finished N.K. Jemisin's 'Broken Earth' Trilogy, and I definitely agree that it is difficult to read. Whilst in is absolutely phenomenal, you don't actually get the full picture of the world until maybe 50 pages out from the end of the third book. But it was an incredible read, and now one of my all-time favourite fantasy series.
@egorall5 жыл бұрын
Formative when I was younger was the Stephen R. Donaldson series on 'Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever'. That and LOTR influenced me most until college.
@rhd3tuba5 жыл бұрын
Have to agree with Donaldson. I recently reread the series before I read the Last Chronicles addition and remembered why I love (and love to hate) Thomas Covenant. It was such a great book for my vocabulary when I was much younger the first time.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman4 жыл бұрын
FWIW: I read the two Covenant trilogies decades ago. Just RECENTLY -- as in the last two years -- I read online the author wrote MORE books in the series. But I am so far BEHIND in reading books, I have not even bothered acquiring any more books.
@audmickey13073 жыл бұрын
You guys have great chemistry! You can tell that your good friends and bounce off each other well which makes the video really interesting to watch! Thank you for the list I'm really looking forward to checking some of these out and I'm glad you guys don't agree with everything because it gives different perspectives based on each book. Thank you again!
@jamil56155 жыл бұрын
I fucking adore George RR Martin's writing style is absolutely amazing. Feels almost effortless to read
@Chairman7w5 жыл бұрын
A true wordsmith.
@tombrennan18424 жыл бұрын
If you read the books, you could tell when the show got a lot thinner. Suddenly the amazing conversations between Tyrion and Varys were almost non-existent.
@Biggie-Slimes4 жыл бұрын
I DUCKING love game of thrones
@blackhawksfan25254 жыл бұрын
@@tombrennan1842 Yes it was plain as day when the show ran out of source material. Almost an immediate downturn in quality.
@ericbraun88555 жыл бұрын
You two are a light hearted, buddy cop movie, waiting to happen! Thank you for your work!
@ElijahAtchley5 жыл бұрын
The Graveyard Book was great and I will die on this hill.
@jefferyedoherty4 жыл бұрын
I'll stand with you.
@mestimac4 жыл бұрын
I listened to the audio book with my kids and loved it. It took over a month, and my 7 year old was a little lost in the sauce, but it was still well worth it.
@devildriverrule1114 жыл бұрын
You won't die alone on that hill. haha
@filipjanik874 жыл бұрын
It is a great book. If you listen to the audio by Neil himself, you will spend half of the time laughing.
@filipjanik874 жыл бұрын
It is a great book. If you listen to the audio by Neil himself, you will spend half of the time laughing.
@christinedrab23102 жыл бұрын
First law world was my start into fantasy. I have reread them several times. Definitely my favorites
@Arnstone885 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit stuck in the older fantasy books I read as a teen. I really enjoyed Terry Goodkind's 'The Sword of Truth' series (though it gets very preachy in the second half), and Raymond E. Feist's 'Riftwar Saga' (...and while I enjoy the entire Riftwar Cycle, it falls off a bit in the latter half) even more so. I've read both series multiple times, and while it's probably just as much nostalgia as anything else, I still find them enjoyable.
@danielschafhautle16914 жыл бұрын
Yeah, raymond feist books are so goood. Some of my favorites
@silencedphill22525 жыл бұрын
Introductory (You've never read fantasy but are willing to entertain the idea): David Gemmell Books: Both the Drenai Saga and the Rigante Series are great. In my opinion he's kind of a precursor to the the modern Grimdark genre. Grimdark-light maybe if that makes sense? Certainly is a godfather of the Heroic Fantasy Genre. The books are very accessible, not terribly long, and just enjoyable reads. There are definitely tropes in his books, but they're done well and not always in the way you expect. Like -oh this book is about a group of heroes going on a quest, sure that's a trope. But the "heroes" are has-been war veterans whose lives are haunted and empty, so they take up a tiny quest that nobody actually cares about, and will not actually have any impact on the world one way or the other but will affect the lives of individuals. Anyway, he's a great intro into the genre. Drenai and Rigante are his big series. But I also liked his Jon Shannow books (fantasy westerns) the main character is very similar to the Gunslinger from the Dark Tower. The Stones of Power books are out of print I think, but if you can find them in a used book store, give 'em a go. And he has some great stand alone books. I like David Gemmell, not enough people talk about him, and he's dead now so he's not writing anymore books. Which is sad. The Chronicles of Amber by Roger Zelazny. These books are fantastic and great as an introduction to fantasy. Alternate worlds, action, mystery, magic, political intrigue, betrayal. It's got it all, and Zelazny is a great writer. Both the Corwin Cycle and the Merlin Cycle are 100% worth reading. Piers Anthony: Incarnations of Immortality. Each book deals with an incarnation of say Death or Time or War etc, and how the person filling that office at the moment got the job. The first book in the series is On a Pale Horse it's about the guy who suddenly finds himself in the unlikely position of being Death Incarnate - Literally the Grim Reaper. He's not prepared for the job. (writing this makes me want to go back and read them, it's been over a decade now) The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher are pretty accessible for newcomers to fantasy. If you like the Dresden Files and want more of that type of fantasy then read the Iron Druid series, it's very much the same genre. Though, full disclosure, I did not care for the end of this series. It's enjoyable, though. Funny and well written. The bits with the dog are the best. Agree that Narnia is a good introduction. It was the first fantasy I ever read as a kid. David Eddings' Belgariad is pretty intro. Orphan Boy doesn't know he's a wizard destined to battle a great evil genre of fantasy. Joe Abercrombie: I like to recommend his books to people who haven't read fantasy. In my opinion he writes some of the best fantasy out there, and he's easy to read. His Shattered Sea trilogy was intended to be YA so it's pretty easy to read, but in my opinion really great. I've read the First Law trilogy multiple times, it's so good, plus all the stand alone books. This guy is the best. Magic 2.0 series by Scott Meyer. It's light, and funny, there are wizards, but they're not what you think. I enjoy this series. It's not high literature, but it's easy reading and it's enjoyable. Intermediate - Advanced: Robin Hobb: Realm of the Elderlings. I was disappointed not to see this on your list. I've just finished reading the Farseer and the Tawny Man Trilogies back to back. I'm not sure why I waited so long to read this series. It's really good. Lord of the Rings solely because the writing style will take some getting used to for some people. Wheel of Time, because it can feel overwhelming due to how long it is. Otherwise I think it can be introductory, though. I thought Sanderson did a good job wrapping it up. There were so many plot threads he had to cut because as you talked about in the video more just kept getting added as the series went on. I hope the TV series turns out great. Dracula: Victorian writing isn't for everyone. But, come on, it's a classic. Gentleman Bastard Series. Neil Gaiman: American Gods and Anansi Boys. I don't know why Anansi Boys doesn't get more attention. The Kingkiller Chronicle by Rothfuss. I loved the first book, and liked the second book. But I don't recommend anyone reading these until the series is finished. Though he hasn't said it, I think the criticism of the second book kind of shell shocked Rothfuss to the point that he wants to the Third book to be perfect. And that pressure is causing him to take a LONG time to write it. Longer than it would've taken him if people liked the second book as much as the first. I don't know. Just my guess. Me, I liked them both, so I wish he'd just go ahead and publish that next installment. A Song of Ice and Fire Crown of Stars series by Kate Elliott. Two of my favorite fantasy characters reside in these books. Mistborn: I think you need to be comfortable with fantasy before reading these, but that's just me apparently. There's more, but I think that's a pretty good starter list.
@OronoDiane5 жыл бұрын
This was long, but worth the read! I read The Chronicles of Amber about 15 years ago and loved it- this list is the first mention I've seen of it since- it gets no love! :(
@jackmckenzie9264 жыл бұрын
Love David Gemmell. He was the first fantasy author that I read and got me into the genre.
@SunriseFireberry5 жыл бұрын
I rec Robin Hobb & Guy Gavriel Kay. For middle grade & early YA try the Prydain series by L. Alexander. Why do the middle grade Morrigan Crow books by J. Townsend get such mixed reviews? For more not too heavy fare, try Diana Wynne Jones and Robin McKinley.
@mariaslm85 жыл бұрын
Prydain is fun!
@erinaa94865 жыл бұрын
Diana Wynne Jones!!! Many many amazing beginner fantasy novels, and many intermediate! Robin McKinley does great fairy tale retellings
@ColtonsHobbies3 жыл бұрын
Because of your video I started Mistborn and I have now completed all of the cosmere books..... in the past year... I NEED MORE!
@rriggs65472 жыл бұрын
Sanderson must have heard you. He revealed that he had a secret and was lying to us. So now we are getting a bunch more Cosmere next year.