I totally forgot that I had made this video but here it is anyway! Which one sounds the best to you?
@adamagapie12982 жыл бұрын
Really had to have the resonance all the way up? No bottom end?
@adamagapie12982 жыл бұрын
On the Peavey
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's weird isn't it? Other times it sounded thicker. I guess that day there might have been a ghost in the machine... :)
@nevesnow2 жыл бұрын
Peavey! I use mine with the resonance at noon, more than this sounds quite fat. By the way I use the lb-2 too. Cheers!
@kevrem9842 жыл бұрын
@@adamagapie1298 Same results with active pickups in my 6505 120w. It sounds thinner than with active pickups. I keep the Resonance knob at noon with passives, and 2 or 3 o'clock with actives.
@picksalot12 жыл бұрын
I preferred the Mesa, but after a few seconds of listening to either Amp, I forgot about which one I was hearing and just enjoyed the music. For me, music always rules the day, as long as gear doesn't get in the way.
@MetalZoned2 жыл бұрын
To me its not as much as one vs the other but rather do they hold up to their big brothers. Both sound good, lot easier to carry around too haha. I do think the 6505MH lacks some bottom end. In the mix it sounds fine but the rectifier is fuller. Also worth mentioning that the 6505MH is almost half the price!
@JohnWiku2 жыл бұрын
Definitely love the recto on it's own (great for solo practice), the 6505 sits and sounds better in the mix!
@nuclearpurification72602 жыл бұрын
6505 for me, I still consider it the standard for high gain amps.
@Turbo-D2 жыл бұрын
the mesa always wins this thing is really ridiculous outstanding good and not beatable in this small form factor territory in my experience, i would just say that this is the best recto amp mesa put out in a very long time, its based on the recto recording preamp, also a hidden treasure for recto tone!... and its OK`ish affordable... the peavey is also very cool but i would go with the 50w stealth instead, the best and most complete EVH head ever! better bang for your buck and compareable to the mesa..cheers my friend
@Deamonition2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna comment that they must complement each other very nicely in a blend, only to realize the end of your video is a blend of both! That tone was great.
@mooocows2 жыл бұрын
I have a VH4 and wanted a mini amp for rehearsal. I tried both the Mesa and 6505 as I've previously owned both larger heads. I found the 6505 a bit thin and harsh especially at volume yet I believe the Mesa sounded better than the Dual I had years ago. Either way, the Mini is so portable to practice spaces and has so much more versatility. Really happy with it
@mooocows2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a VH4 I have a VH2 😆
@mrchrisbeaver10 ай бұрын
I got the Peavey 6505 MH this week, I love it. I want that Mesa too but no one sells Mesa in Europe any more. I've not seen one Mesa product in the last 3 years in the UK 😓
@Gizmo-st1ky2 жыл бұрын
Saw the title and came running! Hahaha excellent stuff as always my friend! I really like the sound of the mini recto! It’s very fat in the mix, the peavey is more top heavy in terms of highs/mids so in the mix it lacked some bottom to me. Both amps sound great! The final amp blend was AMAZING!! Both amps complimented each other well!! Id buy both of these just to blend them like you did! 🤘🏽🔥
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the Peavey definitely has a much tighter bottom end
@JonpMathewsdxt2 жыл бұрын
They both definitely have there own thing going on. Mesa kinda sounds like a bigger head. But the hole time I was thinking these would complement each other well in a mix and they sure did. As always you have great tones.
@tobins68002 жыл бұрын
Both are usable. Also, both sound way better when you don't drop an earbud. Like the Mesa better overall. Together, killer. Thanks
@Spider._.dust_music2 жыл бұрын
Great video🤘 ive had lots of amps over the years. I finally got a mesa duel rec 100 solo last year and love it!! I would like a EVH head next as well
@evilmastermindgusz35052 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and killer guitar tones. I prefer the Recto but these 2 amps are my favorite!
@westcoastbrotha Жыл бұрын
Okay both heads sound great, but I wanna talk about homeboy’s guitar riffs!!! Holy bat shit! I mainly look forward to this channels videos simply due to the heavy and diverse riffs this guy plays. Mad respect.
@Clinthopanonymous2 жыл бұрын
Videos like these is how wars get started and I for one choose to be on the right side of history. Peavey for life!
@yosephmcjoe95752 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait till you get a 5150 iconic. Your videos are the best on the platform, man. Great commentary, outstanding playing and Awesome environment to help people make an informed purchase. I'd happily contribute to a patreon or something if it helped you get more gear to put on the channel!
@bradovard86572 жыл бұрын
If I was into metal, I’d probably prefer the Mesa. The 6505 is great for hard rock. Love the crunch channel on that amp.
@WholeLottaBulldog2 жыл бұрын
love to see these two against the dark terror. dark terror is, imo, pretty close to midway between the mini recto and 6505mh tonally.
@Gumdropnipples2 жыл бұрын
I started off with a 6505 and liked it alot. Then I heard some of my favorite bands used the messa and though I needed one. I experimented with effects loops until I was able to make them sound identical. I like them both alot but I find myself using the peavey more often.
@AdamYoudell2 жыл бұрын
I have a 100w Dual(2005, currently running w/only 2 tubes) and the 6505 MH. Both have their own unique sounds. Great compositions as always
@xiwiwix2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great video, Jon! I bought the 6505mh when it first came out and I remember it sounding exactly how it sounded in your video. IMO it's really small sounding, very buzzy but when you get it up near band volume its tone falls apart. Though, there is a tiny spot on the m.volume knob where it starts to thicken up a tiny bit before it gets too flubby, and IMO that's where it sounds best. To me, it sounds like a lower quality, imitation of a 5150/6505, it almost feels like a knock off. I own a Mesa Mini, and constantly find myself talking myself out of buying another one xD It's downside is that it needs a boost otherwise it's too loose for my liking. Once it's got that boost in front, man, oh man, does it sound so good! To me, it sounds and feels as good as a Multi-watt. A few years ago, I had a multi-watt triple and a Mini so I was able to do some in-depth comparisons. What I found, I preferred the Mini's tone over the 150w amp. Not only was it tighter, but the preamp sounded nearly identical on the mini to the 150w beast. I was ok with losing a channel and all the bells and whistles on the Triple for just pure raw Recto tone on the grandslam the mini is. So yes, my opinion is very biased :x Together, wow! They sounded amazing, I was kinda hoping it would, I figured it might, and sure enough, they sounded terrific together! IMO their weakness play off each others strengths making them sound great. One's loose while the others tight and voila, awesome tone! I could be wrong, but perhaps if the 6505mh was higher powered, it could solve the problem I think it has with sounding tiny. It just needs some girth ("That's what she said" Michael G. Scott), a little more power to be useable in a band setting and I'm sure I'd love it. But as of right now, everytime I heard some one say they have one and they love it, I cringe. Medium oof Different folks, different tone. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@felixfersch94987 ай бұрын
I got my Peavey 6505 for 360€. Great Deal. I get an amazing clean sound from it. Did a Preamp tube swap. The Lead channel has an amazing Gain structure and is incredibly loud.
@missingthepoint5572 жыл бұрын
Preferred the mesa isolated, but the 6505 MH sounded better within the mix, so in the end I would go for the peavey
@justokotoeh2 жыл бұрын
i loveyour channel for the shootouts! it makes difficult decision msking easier for us tone chasers 🙂 i would love to see a shoutout of that mesa mini 25 and the engl fireball 25. 🔥 oh you already have it, with all the other lunchboxes! 😁
@p0g0572 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video it's awesome! surprisingly I prefer the mesa, I would have liked to hear the comparison mesa 25w and marshll dsl 20w
@eusma752 жыл бұрын
This video shows the importance of context, in the mix context!
@thanos44802 жыл бұрын
Peavey just more pleasant to listen to. There is no such an unpleasant highs like in mesa. And also it's sounds more brutal))
@guitarsehole2 жыл бұрын
I have the Peavey (and its big brother)...and love it...but now I want the Mesa!
@MRxr4002 жыл бұрын
both sounded good to me. i lean a bit more to the recto, but i may run the eq a little different, i never have my single rec bass above 9 o'clock. i like the boogie build quality, and have alot of faith in the brands reliability for working every gig. reliability is very important to me. the peavey was no slouch though, sat well in a mix, i would like to know how it goes in a live setting.
@translucent17 Жыл бұрын
I had the 120w 6505+ for years and it was my go to for playing live. Man that mesa sounds great though damnit
@elgamal19822 жыл бұрын
Recto sounded so scooped, fat and throaty tho. The peavey sounded mid heavy and tight but lacks the low end. Blending both is so balanced and sounded really nice for my ears. I always liked blending amps however some amps won’t work together like mesa marks and 6505s imho. My favorite blend is a krankenstein and a mesa mark amp with the 5 band eq turned off or maybe ON with a minimal changes, it sounded amazing. Try one of your victory kraken amps blended with a mark series. Amazing comparison as always thanks so much.
@bradovard86578 ай бұрын
They both sound great. I would love to try them both in the same room at the same time. One on the left and the other right. I think they would compliment each other and fill in the frequencies the other is lacking.
@anthonysilva53122 жыл бұрын
Great comparison as usual! However, although the Mesa says it is made in the USA, I would bet dollars to donuts that the circuit boards are all made in China, the pots are all made in China, and maybe the cabinet and assembly is done in the USA. Bottom line is, when you come on stage with a killer tone, no one is asking what country your head was made in. Keep up the great work!
@JacobNates2 жыл бұрын
They sound so good together in a mix
@photoguy421211 ай бұрын
Mesa sounds tighter and more professional but the Peavey sounds juicy. I’d be happy with either.
@lowalkoroc2 жыл бұрын
I love the 6505MH and use it daily at home, but about being loud enough for live use... It could be possible but just FYI when you turn it up past 5 it gets very messy and looses a lot of tightness. You could definitely use it live mic'd up but you wouldn't be able to get enough stage volume for it and have a good 6505 tone IMO, good floor monitors would be a must.
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
It obviously doesn't have the headroom of a 120w amp but for playing at home or recording they're just fine!
@Dante584262 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you did the blend at the end. The whole time I was thinking these amps would sound good blended together, and I wasn't wrong.
@corvovegetariano4 ай бұрын
Nice song. Sound great in both amps.
@Saurion12 жыл бұрын
Wish you'd use some different pickups for the comparison. Fishmans make everything sound flat and compressed.
@Heisenhuegel2 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Maybe you can make a match mesa/Peavey vs ENGL Ironball? :)
@fjk11382 жыл бұрын
I admit that I am a biased Mesa user, so I prefer the Rectifier because it sounds fuller. That all being said, the 6505 sounds like the Rectifier with all the low end and low mids pulled out. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but they sound more like a "before and after" of the same amp. Regardless, your riffs continue to sound excellent and are worth listening to for that alone.
@mikedenkinger95702 жыл бұрын
Same here. The Mesa has a more complex tone. The Peavey sounds thinner. I'm wondering if this isn't due to the speakers that are being used. I recently tried my Rectoverb 25 with a buddy's Orange 1x12 (instead of the Recto Mini 1x12 I have). He had an Eminence speaker and it all but eliminated the boom bottom end but really sounded thinner. I realize that we (by default) compare amps through identical cabs/speakers to determine differences. I think it's better to find what cabs/speakers work best with an amp and then figure out which one sounds best.....
@mystdeisanto99192 жыл бұрын
Never like recto, always sounds fizzy and boomy to me. Frequency wise, Peavey definitely sits better in the mix, and you can turn up the bass and make it sounds tighter and ticker in this particular song.
@brandonharris9160 Жыл бұрын
Damn both of these are my dream amps. If only Orange had a 30 watt OR120.....
@GregSobek2 жыл бұрын
I believe if you would take PRS MT15 it would have sound like a blend of those two amps
@clairez6662 жыл бұрын
Mesa all the way... but I like the idea of using both for tonal differences! Can you please do a video comparing a MESA BADLANDER vs DIEZEL D-MOLL!!??? 💜🔥💜🔥💜
@ronnymilianowicz52282 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video about amp slaving going from the Mesa loop FX into the Engl Fireball poweramp.
@KahruSuomiPerkele2 жыл бұрын
I think this riff suits the Rectifier the best, maybe cleaning up the lows so the palm mutes sound less loose would help. The 6505 has too much mids, but maybe a darker sounding IR would have helped. So many things to experiment 😂🤯 The blend at the end 🤯
@jamesgoodman70962 жыл бұрын
Both are great. However, you need to add the PRS tremonti into this to make it a properly fair fight 👍🏻
@smeemusic2 жыл бұрын
They both sound great in their own rights but when you a/b them the spiky midrange of the 6505 is less pleasant. But when you just let it play out without a/b the 6505 sits perfectly. And then the Mesa also fit perfectly but in an entirely different way. I have an evh 5150 el34 100 watt head and I have a bugera trirec head as well. The bugera is supposed to be a mesa triple rectifier clone. But I gotta say it sounds SO different from a mesa. Its almost more like 5150 than any mesa I ever heard. So that being said, I've been wanting to add a mesa to my collection so I can have that tonal option for recording and mixing.
@JimZarasOfficial Жыл бұрын
I like them both. It would be awesome to use them both into my mixes. Hard panned left and right.
@borhksalduero92592 жыл бұрын
Peavey has a tighter sound which I like more for this song.
@richarddwjensen2 жыл бұрын
Mesa, hands down. The peavey sounds like an angry mosquito by comparison. The kind of tone that’s guaranteed to please only your bass player!
@brunoalves39586 ай бұрын
Mini Rec for non-palm-muted parts sounded better in my opinion. But the 6505 MH chugged harder.
@gregmerritt93662 жыл бұрын
I could see those two heads run stereo through the same 4×12 cab being a great lower volume gig rig if the drummer's willing to play an e-kit.
@emocapybara86762 жыл бұрын
the mesa amp gives u that late 90s nu metal harsh and heavy, peavey give more modern rock tone
@rayfoster43392 жыл бұрын
Peavey is more percussive, and less muddy ...it would been better to boost the Peavey bass a bit more, to be more equal, or turned Mesa bass down
@kataklysm6542 Жыл бұрын
Peavey on top 🔝
@sheriffdohboy2 жыл бұрын
Compare both with Orange Jim Root,,,I’ve owned standard tiny terror, dark terror and now the root. Best out of the bunch the little Jim and it appears loudest out of the 15 watt oranges
@sergejkrynycky7282 жыл бұрын
Good one!! How do you think Invective MH stacks up against the Mini Rectifier?
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
I did a comparison of the 6505mh and the Invective. The Invective sounds a little bit more modern than the 6505mh but the differences would be similar as in this video.
@stuffdowntown Жыл бұрын
Mesa all the way!
@markolivares69436 ай бұрын
I own the 6505 mini and love it. However I would really like to try the Mesa and peavey side by side
@markolivares69436 ай бұрын
Update. I purchased the 25 watt mini rec and it sounds awesome. However it goes from 0-100 really quick on the volume and the 10 watt setting does not sound good at all. Very unfortunate I must say. So far the 6505 mini and engl power all are winning the completion for me
@scottchamley1812 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video! I think I missed the signal chain if you posted it. Just wondering if you used an overdrive. Thanks!
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
No overdrive! It's just the pure amps
@scottchamley1812 жыл бұрын
Wow Jon, very cool! I'll give it a try with my MH.
@kinglord51632 жыл бұрын
Everytime I get my hands on a mesa dual it literally sounds terrible. I cant get a decent tone out of it. John what is the trick behind the mesa dual? What Pickups and how to dial?
@billw2809 Жыл бұрын
@sonic drive studio, is it possible to play to mesa at bedroom volume? or is it overkill for neighbors with like a 1x12?
@spyware11002 жыл бұрын
I've read about serious quality issues on mini 6505. (voltage regulator doesn't have any cooling and it fries/dies in the amp) How reliable are they in your experience?
@bastianvanstigt62462 жыл бұрын
Could you do the Neural Quad Core next? I see great videos about it, would love to hear your opinion.
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
I don't have one so I'm afraid it won't happen. Not soon anyway.
@deaffatalbruno2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how close to a mesa sound could you get with 5150 type amp if you eq it with e.g. 7 band eq pedal? The distortion sounds very similar to me, but mainly the voicing is different. The Mesa is soo scooped. Even with mid turn down on a 5150, it is still very mid heavy compared to the 12 o'clock setting a the mesa. So maybe with expanded EQ might be able to get close ... ... It's normally easier to cut things, than to boost things that aren't there anymore.
@montereycalifornia18 күн бұрын
6505MH All day long!
@mikedawg2CDR2 жыл бұрын
mini recto sounded way better and more alive imo
@billw2809 Жыл бұрын
is there a way to plug headphones to the mesa for silent playing or greatly reduce its power? thanks
@nefariouspreludev2.046 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the 6505 because I'm broke and can't afford the recto🙃
@juancarlosbernabeaviles3 ай бұрын
Peavey wins.
@TopK3k2 жыл бұрын
Would be cooler if you have covered new Soldano mini SLO also
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if I had one
@pavel0611952 жыл бұрын
I like mesa most than peavey
@amaurypalmen79682 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the video but How can you put the gain on 5 on the peavey, what tubes do you use?
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
Just the stock tubes
@amaurypalmen79682 жыл бұрын
@@SonicDriveStudio yes but I think they changed the tubes through the years for this model
@Turbo-D2 жыл бұрын
sorry for another comment here but next comparison, please evh 50w stealth vs mesa mini
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a stealth
@Turbo-D2 жыл бұрын
@@SonicDriveStudio whaaat? you are missing one of the best amps of all time, just get one! its so rare here in germany just sold out for year now i got one luckily b stock for 800€ now its about 1300€.. 🙄
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
@@Turbo-D just got my 50w 6L6 so I'm good :)
@Turbo-D2 жыл бұрын
@@SonicDriveStudio much different, a nobrainer if its available, sold mine for the stealth❗🙏
@SonicDriveStudio2 жыл бұрын
@@Turbo-D I'm really digging it tbh
@davidparedes36135 ай бұрын
Jesus they sound so similar
@ThatDudeEv Жыл бұрын
How about mini rec vs invective mh?
@SonicDriveStudio Жыл бұрын
Could be fun
@danomnihility24532 жыл бұрын
Had em both. Peavey too noisy. Mesa had more tones. Kraken vx wipes the floor with these and is more than loud enough for playing with a band. The sound falls apart up loud for both these amps.
@dongwarrenmusic6 ай бұрын
With the price difference, start with peavy to buy the mesa. 😆
@luizfelipeclf2 жыл бұрын
6505>>>>
@JosephCee Жыл бұрын
Mesa sounds infinitely better. I wanted to like the Peavey but it just sounded like crap compared to the Mesa.
@clcartlidge2 жыл бұрын
Rec sounds fizzy imo
@godzilla9648 ай бұрын
The peavey cannot do clean, while the mesa can.
@guitarlair2 жыл бұрын
I had a Mini Rectoverb for a while, ended up returning it.... these little guys are fun until you try a real 50/100w amp, then you realize the HUGE difference in headroom, punch and low end that a bigger amp does. My EVH EL 34 wiped the floor with the Mini Mesa... it was not even close...you turn up the master volume on these mini amps and the headroom never comes, the low end never comes, it gets better obviously but never really gets THERE!! If you dial it past 12 o clock it doesn't do anything, only gets super muddy and starts to sound like crap...The EVH on the other hand, if you open the master volume, oh boy.... it screams, it punches you in the guts.
@user-do7vd9tx3h2 жыл бұрын
Fishmans plus mh plus v30 is just not a winning combination
@WholeLottaBulldog2 жыл бұрын
why is that, in your opinion?
@T00DEEPBLUE2 жыл бұрын
As much as I'll happily clown on Peavey as a company, the 6505MH sounds better by a country mile. The Mesa is way too flubby/splatty in the low end and fizzy in the highs. The 6505MH is more balanced in those aspects and the mids do a great job of cutting through in the mix.
@Starch1b2c3d4a2 жыл бұрын
You take those parts out with a pedal…
@T00DEEPBLUE2 жыл бұрын
@@Starch1b2c3d4a Yes. However I'm glad that wasn't done for the sake of the comparison. Makes the test more fair.
@parallaxgaming5070 Жыл бұрын
6505 sounds way better
@Feverdream77772 жыл бұрын
6505 has a dominant trashy upper mid thing going on... sounds like part of it is playing through a crappy tiny little boom box speaker.... like around 10k trashy hiss ... I don't like it.
@sendtodevnull12692 жыл бұрын
6505MH sounds better and it’s not even close, imo.
@parallaxgaming5070 Жыл бұрын
rectifier is over hyped and over priced ! get the same sound from a 6505 all day long , this video should have been done with real cab etc.