Meshuggah - Autonomy Lost / Disenchantment

[@pinkfloydicus]

the struggle...to learn how this song is somehow still in 4/4...becomes...my very shackles!

[@ПётрПавловский-щ1х]

0:00 CHUG-CHUG-CHUG (3/4) 0:01 CH-CH-CHUG CH-CH CH-CH-CHUG CHUG CHUG CH-CH-CHUG (9/4) and i cannot figure out the rest

[@Ketsamo]

​@@ПётрПавловский-щ1х The main rhythm is 4/4. But at the same time there is also second rhythm which is 9/8, of which every fourth beat is shortened to 5/8 to match it back to the main rythm. 4 x 4/4 = 3 x 9/8 + 1 x 5/8

[@georgescyril2683]

Explained here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6a2nJxsaMhgibM

[@macadoolahicky]

"the struggle to free myself of restraints becomes my very shackles" beautiful.

[@Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns]

So damn true too!

[@liamyates5544]

Meshuggah, to me, isn't like most other metal. Its not about getting pissed in a pub and headbanging the night away, getting into mosh pits and chillin with friends. Meshuggah is private thing and much more... fulfilling, so to speak. Meshuggah is something i like to listen to when im on my own, something i can let my mind run wild too. Something that i can escape from reality with. I could listen to meshuggah all day and you might not see me move and inch, but if you somehow looked in my mind, you would see "organised" chaos.

[@misanthropian666]

Mate, what type of shitty metal do you refer to be about getting pissed in a pub and headbanging the night away, getting into mosh pits and chillin with friends?

[@liamyates5544]

More fast paced stuff like Pantera, slayer, anthrax, metallica and occasionally power metal. Why, do you have a problem with that?

[@misanthropian666]

Liam Yates Nah, I don't have a problem, I actually agree on those bands you mention are like that. Especially the fans of Slayer and Pantera are the essence of braindead beer wielding "metalheads". I don't like Meshuggah myself, seen them live a few times and they're good musicians but I find them extremely boring. But to each their own.

[@liamyates5544]

Well, thanks for understanding. Im not much of drinker to be honest, im more of a smoker and smoking and meshuggah seem to go hand in hand. As you said, each to their own.

[@misanthropian666]

Liam Yates No worries, that's cool. :)

[@reddeadinsaiyan]

The struggle to free myself of Restraints... becomes... my very Shackles !

[@horatiotrismegistus616]

+Tom dansereau Recursive self-improvement all over again...

[@S1ph3r]

my favorite qoute on the album!

[@jagerbomb]

it's brilliant! Depicts so many things, including the whole paradoxical theme of the album. This shit is about life, the universe, nature, the existential struggle on an individual level, everything. Everything comes and goes in cycles, everything is repetitive and eternal. Yet nothing really is. All events are unique, time bursts forth like an arrow and all that is past stays so. Death is permanent, for life, and the universe.

[@kyvss]

Spot motherfucking on!

[@JaziB]

me irl

[@CoolCoverBro]

This song (album) is not real, truly captures insanity in music, and I can't get enough of it. This band has changed the course of music without recognition. They created the breakdown, djent, and this variation of djent that can only lie in avant garde. This band is the Ron Paul of Music.

[@NateOhl]

Meshuggah's music makes me feel like a collossal dragon, waking from a thousand year sleep and destroying the entire human race in anger.

[@dominikvlcek8213]

best meshuggah album

[@toxicapathy]

i love it how half of their songs only seem to have two notes, yet they are all completely original and awesome.

[@wholetthewolfout]

My favorite album. This riff gives me the chills almost every time.

[@dujl]

I think this is album is way UNDERRATED. This might be their best album, imo.

[@krackkorn1952]

Best album of all time more like

[@johna3626]

When I got something hard and monotonous to do, I play this song. Just the groove alone makes me realise that the only obstacle is not the storm or hill to climb, but it's myself: my emotions and the way I react to change. It puts me into a mechanical state aware yet unresponsive to thoughts.

[@EnricoSalvatoreRizzo]

Not all poems are supposed to rhyme. And just because something rhymes doesn't mean it's good. When this guy says that Meshuggah lyrics are "poems" he means it like they're something truly great.

[@Shake69ification]

As someone who's also a Tool fan, I appreciate their lyrical prowess. The use of metaphors to tell their stories takes some real talent, especially for non-native English speakers. I also happen to love the fact that I've had to go look up words in the dictionary which appeared in their songs: two that come quickly to mind are _vellicate_ (from *Bleed* ) and _annelids_ (from *Stifled* ).

[@iamRepsy]

@@Shake69ification TOOL !!!!!

[@chronoslv3]

The vocalist is awesome.

[@101TheWierdo]

Jens Kidman. He is a god

[@nocturnalterror2]

Dude I know. I listen to Meshuggah ritualistically now. It's insane the addiction they have endowed me with.

[@Boo6661000]

This song sounds so f**k'en crazy that I had to listen to it 33 times just to catch it.

[@section-le4jy]

this band legitimately changed my life and conceptions of life. thank you Jens, Fredrik, Tomas, Dick and Mårten. amazing musicians, can't wait to see them live

[@MrDubious]

"The struggle to free myself from restraints becomes my very shackles."

[@marriedtoallama2102]

sounds like a 89/16 over a 1/1 over a 33/8 with the cymbal in 4.4/4

[@DavieDrum98]

lmfao what

[@rockdude1986uk]

Sounds more like a 6/76*8976-5 to me

[@Jakeltons]

Calc metal

[@bangasou12]

lol colleges should just play meshuggah for calculus classes and the exam is playing the song

[@AlignSD]

Sweet now my keyboard is covered in water that came out of my nose....thanks

[@mrlolster2144]

Reaching for the inner bright, the very essence-sun of my dreaming bliss Guided by a fear blinded outside all shades of the perfect black Me - the paragon of fear, an immobile skein of tangled nerves exposed Hastily clawing my way into the darkest of my inner scenes of torture I stay my breath to escape this slavery I stay my breath to re-awake and face it encore The struggle to free myself of restraints, becomes my very shackles

[@JamesIsAsleep]

2:21 Meow!

[@robbo5life]

Djent cat

[@YanusDV]

lolololol

[@adamtaylor31]

There it is....cant be unheard.

[@TsarDragon]

Meeeee-YOOOOOWWWWW!!! Yeah that's not gonna get unheard

[@dujl]

This song is completely awesome! The rythm and beats are both enthralling and empowering, the vocals are great and the little melodic parts are too creepy! Love this!

[@mathprodigy]

Shit it's been 7 years since I commented on this vid. I can't even begin to explain the importance of this album to me. This entire album is probably the most mind-shifting experience I have EVER HAD listening to an album. Meshuggah themselves completely opened a new dimension of music for me... this album is the absolute definitive personification of that morph in the way I hear and play music. It's irreversible, I'm changed forever and I can't go back. And wouldn't want to. They used 4 different notes altogether in this over 5 minutes of music here. I've never heard 4 notes played over 5 minutes sound better than this. Its basically a fucking lesson in polyrhythms: " Ok you fucking newbs, we're only gonna use 4 FUKN GOD DAMN NOTES. YOU THINK YOU CAN KEEP UP WITH THAT? good. " Then they proceed to deconstruct your fucking consciousness. It's older, but I have a guitar cover of this album from start all the way through the dirty section of "in death - is death ' on my channel, a testament to my love of this music.

[@TheSamuraiApocalypse]

Ok, I'm new to Meshuggah, and my first time listening to this album I had no clue what was going on, musically or lyrically, but I knew there was a concept I just hadn't grasped yet. What I mean by musically, I play guitar, and my influences are bands like Megadeth, Iron Maiden, Metallica, Black Sabbath, and probably one of the newest bands that have really inspired me is Avenged Sevenfold. Probably the closest thing I've experienced to this is Slipknot, where the guitars act mostly as part of the rhythm section, and I fucking love Slipknot. It's therapeutic listening to Antennas to Hell, my favorite song is Surfacing, and I used to be skeptical about it because the lyrics sounded like they took just an hour to be written. I realized the point is to let go of your skepticisms about certain kinds of music in order for it to have an affect on you. Now when I listen to Surfacing I'm more relaxed listening to that than I am listening to something like Let It Be. Sometimes I have a hard time getting into something when the guitar work is really simple, but sometimes it's not always about a cool guitar riff. The guitar here is lending itself to creating a certain feeling, and my second time listening I'm no longer anticipating to hear anything else from the guitar. I understand the lyrics and their meaning now, and now I'm just really intrigued, I might actually go out and buy this album. I'm just sharing this because I see a lot of hardcore Meshuggah fans really into this, and they're mainly the reason I kept delving deeper into this album and the meaning behind it. I probably wouldn't have even listened to the entire thing if I didn't keep seeing people supporting this. I'm being honest, because I'm hoping someone will tell me something I'm missing, or disagree with anything I said. I'm really just looking for an outside opinion.

[@anthonyharding4380]

The beauty of Catch 33 is the ebbs and flows of the feels within the rhythmn. All instruments syncing in and out with each other (whilst always truly being in sync), which is what makes Meshuggah an absolute joy for me to listen to. I'm a keen drummer, and though I love the tone of the guitars throughout their catalogue, the drums are what it's about here! Try replicate the drum times yourself, you will appreciate the intricacies.

[@TheSamuraiApocalypse]

Anthony Harding See I knew I was missing something, I wish I could play drums so I could pick up on those things myself. There's a number of reasons I want to play drums. I play guitar, but when I'm writing I can envision what the drums and bass would do. If I had a drum set and knew how to play it I would be able to fully realize my visions. I knew the rhythm was intricate, but I have a hard time picking out the little changes in the beats. The guitar isn't confusing to me, if I had an 8 string I'm sure I'd be able to pick it up in a couple minutes, but when you add the drums that's when I really have to listen and appreciate what they're creating together.

[@danieldraugsvoll236]

Between Nothing(the 2002 version, not the remastered version(2006) that had the obvious purpose of making it sound more like this album) and Catch 33 Meshuggah underwent what was probably the biggest stylistic change in their career. That's most likely why it's so popular among fans. This album is amazing in it's unique own way. Despite being very Meshuggah-like I think it's more ambitious than their previous efforts. On the surface it's one of their most repetetive pieces but once you dig deeper into it and learn to appreciate all the small variations in the rhythms, that's when you'll really start enjoying it. I could see why this album would appeal less to someone who doesn't play drums. Tomas Haake is literally god. And goddammit it's hard to play, especially the last 1/3rd. Writing this comment made me wanna try it again and now my legs are sore lol

[@Rosson311]

Let the music speak to you.. If it calls to you then lose yourself in it. If it does not say anything to you, then it's not your style man.. No worries if you do or don't like.. Follow no one, and don't worry about what others think.. You're good bro. Just try it to find if you like it or not.

[@dylwiththedeviledeggs]

TheSamuraiApocalypse if you wanna hear this guitarist at his shreddiest listen to special defects

[@dothesenate2745]

The whole Album is just one song

[@rustyshackleford9452]

i- am I a joke to you

[@jungobungo327]

i have this album tattoed on my leg. it holds a special place in my heart.....and on my leg.

[@isaacclarke6235]

Ia ia cthulhu ftagn

[@hanneshaatainen4994]

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[@zmdeadelius]

Props for adding the lyrics as captions. Metal music has so much to teach it's crazy.

[@guntherpotbelly]

I find that Meshuggah helps me visulize a Coulomb of electricity, Ohm's Law and electricity flowing through circuits. It's like these guys can tap into my brain and open something up that makes the very technical seem very simple.

[@Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns]

You trust in them, you know that you can bob your head to it and that the guitars will groove tight even though they’re odd. It’s like a clockwork that lives its own life but still must obey the physical laws of its cogs.

[@ReaperRooney]

its crazy that the drums on this whole album are programmed

[@daviddevilliers2828]

no, it's not programmed on this version!!!

[@ReaperRooney]

um hello? they never re did this album with real drums

[@JosephDante]

Yes they are. There is no version of Catch-33 with live drums. They used programmed drums for this album, period.

[@djoverkin]

Private Pedant reporting in. I could argue that, since they did play this live in concert, there are partial versions of catch-33 with live drums.

[@OrganicRecordsCL]

that's why the drums are in perfect timing

[@JBthree24]

You all realize this album was made when Skynet became self aware, right?....

[@tattedvipermn]

Skynet

[@tattedvipermn]

Cyberdyne Systems

[@lazyguy1393]

i hate it how people comment on meshuggah videos as theyre in the phase of trying to understand it. regardless of what you say, chances are that you just don't like them because you dont get it what always, ALWAYS happens, is that you will eventually understand, and enjoy, this godlike band. absorbing meshuggah is more or less like a paradigm shift, in that you're changing your views on virtually everything. come back when you listen to their stuff multiple times, and tell us what you think THEN

[@tiki2188]

Love Meshuggah. There music is like a nuclear attack on your brain! Great album!

[@Nauticusss]

I keep repeating this riff over and over. It's unstoppable!

[@MetallicAtack]

ALL of Meshuggah's music, whether it be good or not (which it all is..), all the songs have a few things in common: 1-They are mainly about insanity. 2-Have hints on ways the human body is changed into a robotic-like thing. 3-It's just badass.

[@Silidons91]

thing i love about meshuggah is that 1) i seriously can't even listen to many other bands i used to like, because meshuggah actually pulls your brain into this fucking convulsion when you listen to it like nothing i've ever heard, it's a mind experience for me, and 2) because if you just read the lyrics of their songs in spoken voice, they're fucking poems! it's incredible.

[@rajeshhkkapoor8549]

Meshuggah for life... And only at 432 hz frequency...... That's all

[@siklilmonkee]

amen pager they make the dark look beautiful

[@dujl]

I think this is my favorite Meshuggah album.

[@jedaiahx]

Meshuggah is the true version of mental instability type of metal. Meshuggah is fucking #1.

[@88swordmaster]

this album is INSANE

[@eviltube1111]

They rule at making disjointed yet awesome rhythms work together.

[@tyronsmith7938]

THE SOUND OF A FUTURE BREED, OF AN APOCALYPTIC METAL

[@occupytillicome6222]

i havent listened to meshuggah in a while, i almost forgot how badass they are

[@andrewmassacre1]

To add to that, obZen has crushing riffs on that album. The song, "obZen" is just brutal, the opening riff is just pure crushing.

[@massisenpai2374]

This is what God sounds like kids.

[@faelyur]

talent is apparent by the fact that they can compose music like this. playing it live is more a combination of respective instrument proficiency coupled with repetitive practice. there are plenty of jokers who fancy themselves talented on youtube who can play meshuggah music, but i'm sure they couldnt write something as complex to save their lives. talent is an inborn ability while skill can be learned. replace the word "talent" with "skill" then you have a, still, very obvious statement.

[@JakobyGermsheid]

this album had a bonus track called 14. it's imo one of the best meshuggah songs.. i'd recommend it if you haven't heard yet.

[@vanishy0urself]

I know it's impossible to do it with the same guitar tone (the sound will turn to mush due to too many notes being played at the same time) but anyone who can play the opening riff and the tremolo riff AT THE SAME TIME is instant awesome.

[@youssefyassini9580]

2:13 my favorite signature

[@Sloofus]

@SgtZaqq The whole album returns to this riff (or a variation of it). This is meant to be heard from start to finish without clear distinction of track changes.

[@liamlocklear4052]

songs with lyrics are supposed to be poetry put to music literally but the vocabulary and shit meshuggah uses to describe stuff is great

[@TreeFiddy350]

@dujl I think the reason people have trouble with this album is that there is never really a hook in the traditional sense. If you're not already used to odd time signatures and songwriting that doesn't follow the verse/chorus/verse/chorus guideline that has dictated most music from the past 100 years, this is going to seem very uncomfortable and weird.

[@PeRogiTra]

Different album than the others. i am listening to Meshuggah in the last few months .. i started to like them. Before i was like " what is that annoying shit ? " :) but now i think that that band is original and that's awesome. and i love those 7 or 8 string guitars. They have that monotonic sound but i found something in that.. vocal is awesome, lyrics are interesting .. and those guitar sick parts .. but what was most weird about this album is that the first few songs length just one minute and something. when i download that album i deleted it because i was thinking "something got wrong.. I get the uncomplete tracks ! " :) but now i understand .. XD

[@j3sper]

+PeRogiTra Check out the EP called "I".

[@PeRogiTra]

+Nuclear Disco Donkey i heard it already ! :) great song

[@ymf3060]

+Nuclear Disco Donkey i've been listening to "I" for past 10 years...Best metal ep hands down (in my opinion btw)

[@ymf3060]

+Nuclear Disco Donkey i've been listening to "I" for past 10 years...Best metal ep hands down (in my opinion btw)

[@austinthefreak]

This whole album is awesome. I wanna try to memorize the whole thing and record my self playing it without stopping (This album is a 48 minute song, in case you didn't know already.) Btw I know this is technically one song, but was this one recording? Or did they just edit the songs to transition into eachother?

[@jowjjoeksidnwosjxnalwosmbl5476]

Little spiritual growing advices in the lyrics, lovely

[@DontPieceMe221]

@dujl That's just the thing, it's not difficult for them to perform. This comes naturally to them. They don't push themselves to write technical music. Just because it's too complicated for you to follow, that doesn't mean that it's difficult. It doesn't even matter though. Who gives a shit if it's technical or not. It's not like I'm bashing them or anything. You can have the last word, I'm done.

[@guts2900]

I’m gonna need a new toilet after listening to this, this was so brutal it acted as laxatives from God and Satan combined.

[@ChimpFromSpace]

@VinceVonVicious That's the genius of this album. It's minimalist but at the same time extremely complex.

[@periphery09]

This in my opinion is the most interesting meshuggah album out of them all. I cant even handle its amazingness. This is the meshuggah i like.. the bouncy meshuggah... that just fucks with your right hemisphere's rhythm interpretation.

[@Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns]

It’s very clean. I listen to the other albums depending on what taste I’m out after, but I can almost always listen to this, because it’s so stripped and mechanical.

[@john5243]

@@Dinosaurs_with_laser_guns the original comment was 11 years ago. I wonder if their opinion had changed!

[@CragynosII]

'I stay my breath...' and onward in Disenchantment... those vocals are

[@alexrayder1]

Thank you so much for the good that you bring to metal (That don't mean other are less better, but ... this is different)

[@AndyDrew003]

@dujl yeah, I agree 100%. I had heard of Meshuggah many times but hadn't heard anything by them until Obzen. then I decided to buy a cd by them, it was Contradictions Collapse / None. I didnt really like it too much, but when I discovered all the stuff in between that and Obzen. I had really gotten into them. Obzen is amazing too, but the stuff before it was amazing

[@rama_parwata]

they should play the whole album live for at least one show. that would be awesome.

[@Krapvag]

@emosucks89 the groove is in there, you just have to hear it. It challenges the listener to adjust the way they interpret the song. It is much more likely to be heard in decades time than any of the other imposters who follow the standard song writing rules

[@godfather301a]

i love this. epitomy of heavyness in mind... sick

[@andrewmassacre1]

Love the Spinal Tap reference!

[@S0m3kind0fm0nst3R]

@CoolCoverBro I guess that all depends on what you consider a breakdown. I've heard breakdowns in earlier Death songs, but Meshuggah definitely owns at writing them.

[@sacredxgeometry]

I am so glad I found this song. My band has an album that is kind of related to the lyrical content of this song, and I have names for songs on the album similar to this one. I might throw a cameo cover of this on there...

[@WomackPhotoKCMO]

I've never heard a song quite this heavy. It really does stick in your mind. I think because it rarely changes tempo.

[@ThisMortalCoil64]

Wicked album. And wicked album artwork.

[@dujl]

I believe someone described it something like "the existentialist anguish of the soul", and I think that was a very accurate way of putting into words one of the main themes in Meshuggah's music. Also, a constant theme is portraying a vicious, foolish humanity that revels in its own faults or shortcomings.

[@dujl]

@Arglactable Melody usually serves the function to provoke emotion. That is the reason you have it, while rhythm on the other hand is used to make the music catchy or infectuous. While any pop artist can deal with melody and harmonised leads, Meshuggah rejects those concepts and looks at what you can with as minimal melody as possible. Stragenly enough their music provokes a wide variety of emoion for those who understand, even though it's primarily rhythmic.

[@slowblood99]

It's weird how this WHOLE album flows into each song.

[@BlackupKnight]

@MerchantOfDeath69 Sum is a song by Meshuggah, the last track on Catch 33

[@Sc0mBuNNeRRR]

@kamikazeweazel not sum random program, drum samples which Thomas himself recorded... and they opted for this solution due to release date issues only

[@Megadeth916]

@DontPieceMe221 its like, the very subtle changes they throw into riffs that are hard to follow, cuz they do that a good amount

[@daviddevilliers2828]

Incredible meshugga, groove, groove, groove! Tomas haake incredible grooveman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@Tool78Maynard]

"The struggle to free myself from restraints; becomes my very shackles" -What an awesome line..so fuckin true in every sense. This band has grown on me soo much its insane..such talented men. Its the ONLY music I can workout to intensely lol

[@lLxjunxjunx]

@ThrashMetalMan1 these guys are insane mann. love them

[@rfan6382]

This is literally 10/10

[@dujl]

No, it's one song. The album is made like one big entity, making each segment longer than they would have been on separate tracks, and so the repetition is an essential part of the particular progression they're going for. You should listen to a larger portion of the album if you want to understand what they're trying to convey with their music.

[@AliceIsAMonster]

@TheModCon All I need in life is this one album, food, sleep, pot, guitar, and my woman.

[@dujl]

@BobbyBadfingers And by the way, I listened to some of that stuff you talked about. It was a much easier listen than Meshuggah. Meshuggah writes music in a way no one else does and no one has gotten close to yet. This shit has depth to it, that Danza thing seems to me like nothing but momentary entertainment.

[@emshagger222]

@Munoz783 If you listen really hard, their songs are actually in 4/4. Imagine small little riffs in other time signatures, but eventually all adding up to 4/4. It works, they love to mindfuck everyone like that.

[@Variety_Pack]

I always enjoy reading the overwrought stoner thinking on these comments. wanna know what I do whole I listen to Meshuggah? I'll tell you anyways. I work or read a book or am driving. I like tapping out the drums on my steering wheel. I'm a nerd, I love history and good music, be it Beethoven or Hiromi Uehara or this. The other professors would be shocked at what's on my playlist.

[@jacksevilmachine]

Love the band, probably one of the best hardcore prog bands out there

[@mettalguy92]

@lazyguy1393 indeed, well said. it happened to me: i did not like bands like meshuggah and opeth because of the complexity and "weirdness" of it, but now i am into it and cannot get out of it. is like i am forever trapped in the beauty and awesomeness of experimental;/progressive metal!

[@horatiotrismegistus616]

Put my give to save the for while past envisions with many echoes vibrant with fragile locked memories.

[@musicislife6250]

4:21

[@chiefofhunger131]

Excuse me while I run through a brick wall

[@ZenPsyko]

I'll never regret buying this CD, or Obzen, or Nothing, or Chaosphere....EVER

[@supah1337B]

@TheModCon I listen to this album from start to finish sometimes ...Im pretty sure, I just can't remember, I normally wake up a couples days later.

[@mathprodigy]

To understand that these are three different songs is to understand the beauty of Meshuggah. :)

[@NeverLandQM]

@batebordisov If I'm not mistaken they only did it because of time constraints... Tomas is a total monster on drums~

[@titusbeertsen]

@supah1337B Me too! Don't you agree that Meshuggah can have a hypnotizing effect on you? Sometimes I fall asleep to their music while it's playing really loud... Their rhythms really have a strange effect on your Consciousness.

[@DontPieceMe221]

@dujl And I agree with you. They do write quality music. I never said that they didn't. The only thing that I said was that the music isn't that technical (and that's just my opinion), and you've blown that comment way out of proportion.

[@lazofff]

@H0RA Totally agree with you. This is a piece of art.

[@FreshHeat]

@Arglactable I see your point. I like to study it and then play something similar. Just really conceptual and interesting from what I see and the lyrics are pretty amazing and I derive influence from there too. I wouldn't listen to meshuggah all the time and would find that repetitive, but certainly not compared to techno.

[@fulgorlks]

man the dvd was awesone and can´t stop to listen this fucking band , the father of the all fucking metal whit 8 strings of the world , fredrik you are my god just superior....

[@MarcosGabriel-ic8fs]

3:48 muito foda essa parte

[@Aprenda_com_Questões]

Sim, meu amigo

[@ethanbochicchio8379]

16 hits on the crash then the riff repeats so fucking amazing