Messerschmitt Me 262 / engine start / original sound

[@jsp7205]

Even after 75 years its still a beautiful aircraft.

[@thatoneguy7451]

It looks like an aircraft first designed in like the 1990’s, which is really good considering it was used in 1944-45.

[@atoka2206]

In my opinion the only military jet that's beautiful lol

[@panzerivausfg4062]

@@atoka2206 Luftwaffe planes were all hot

[@lonewulf44]

I'm partial to the Focke-Wulf Fw 190 myself, but she is pretty yes

[@cstlbrvo5615]

262 a Ferrari with wings. Camo paint-job makes it look like a shark..

[@Trades46]

That sound must have been unreal in WWII. I'd bet many allied pilots would be wondering how the heck does this thing even worked without a propeller back in 1945. And then there was the SPEED.

[@russellrobinson8541]

I had to fortune to talk to an old WW2 vet who was a front line engineer. His unit was one of the first to encounter an ME 262 airfield. This was the first time that they had seen a jet and their original thoughts were "where are the propellers"? It was would be today's equivalent of seeing an airplane without any engines under the wings.

[@Battleship009]

Russell Robinson Actually there ARE planes without engines in the wing F-86 and MiG-15 for example.

[@xRazProductions]

Battleship009 Or basically every military grade plane which isn't a strategic bomber nowadays.

[@Battleship009]

xRazProductions True.

[@flyerboy2594]

Battleship009 you dont get it do you

[@challacustica9049]

No matter how many years pass, this will remain one of the most beautiful jet aircraft of all time. It looks like a leopard shark in the skies. Everything about this plane screams speed, grace and predation.

[@cisarovnajosefina4525]

Too bad its a first jet Every new breaktrough in technology is quickly out dated If you are the first you don't know what to expect and where you ll find trouble

[@nexxis3510]

And it got tested and build in my home town Delmenhorst at the große höhe

[@7thZeppelin]

The placement of the four guns up front is just beautiful. Much love from USA, this aircraft is truly special.

[@lowerquadrant4647]

I had the privilege of meeting some veteran Me 262-pilots during my service with the Luftwaffe in 1999. I was the designated shuttle driver during a wing reunion at Memmingerberg airfield. The old gentlemen were happy to share some stories. Great memories of my younger days.

[@sonnyasif2463]

Imagine being a pilot of a P51, being told you are in the best bit of modern technology to date, then you see one of them fly past you. Scary thoughts

[@teslashark]

Wait for 262 to land, pound from behind, repeat

[@teslashark]

You're a sloth, you can't.

[@vitalykruschev9216]

262 always had a problem with ammo and fuel, they're limited

[@SuperEdge67]

Sonny Asif The P51 wasn’t the best piece of technology. The most advanced piston engine fighters to see service in WW2 were probably the Hawker Tempest, Focke Wulf TA 152 and late Griffon powered Spitfires all of which out performed a P51 and had a great deal more fire power.

[@thesturm8686]

See them?

[@thesaltycabbage]

Imagine just chilling in your ball turret and this zooms past you for the first time it would be like something from another world

[@SteveBrownRocks2023]

I can’t see ANYONE in a ball turret “chilling”.

[@pashakdescilly7517]

The Me262 would whiz past rather fast, could only fire off about 3 rounds of the cannon while in range - slow rate o firing, low muzzle velocity. Not a good gun platform

[@gdgotcy-andmore.7853]

@@SteveBrownRocks2023 just imagine someone slouching with their arms crossed waiting to get near the target

[@jeffbandle2916]

My uncle was a tail gunner on a B26 and mentioned seeing the 262 on a couple of occasions. Had no idea what it was or what was going on. Was so glad the war was coming to an end.

[@shadowmanwkp]

Yeah, the 262 is remarkable for its potential, but it was one of the several death throes of a losing enemy. Germany at the time had massive supply issues, so jet fuel was scarce and engines were recycled constantly. Not to mention that factories got captured rapidly, diminishing the output even further.

[@vincep3222]

The German people were great innovators in their time ..no one can take that away .

[@valgo8128]

Were yes. But not anymore. The price goes to china and usa these days.

[@CatnamedMittens]

They did themselves. Have you seen their shitty train system?

[@TheBlackfall234]

@@valgo8128 they dont really invent anything. They just take the foundations and improve on them. No real Invention at all.

[@timothyhouse1622]

@@CatnamedMittens have you seen America's shitty train system?

[@Mr.Thermistor7228]

except america took them away after the war, operation paperclip

[@TheCarin12]

I really do tip my hat to the Germain engineers whenever I see the 262. Absolutely remarkable aircraft.

[@angelarainey7258]

My father flew one from Belgium to England at the end of the war. I describe this in an earlier post.

[@utu_be]

@@angelarainey7258 🤨🤨

[@marekmazurek8459]

Fun fact: Czechoslovak Air Force used Me 262 code named AVIA S-92 right up until 1951 when it was replaced by mig 15

[@diegoroberto1347]

Woe

[@ylmazirdenyazc8393]

What happened to Me 262 after?

[@derlasercrafterwally4342]

There are 2 AVIA S-92 still in a museum in Prag. In addition I think around 8 ME262 still exist around the world.

[@wandilande9628]

That old country right? Now it's separated

[@ylmazirdenyazc8393]

@@wandilande9628 yep Czechia and Slovakia but two country is still really close to one another. Much like Turkey/Azerbaijan and Serbia/Monetengro

[@danieljames7605]

sounds alot like my ps4. installing a game

[@javier2642]

Its going to explode

[@rookeva8688]

Daniel james Clean your damn fan

[@Brandon-oo3if]

Hahahah gold!!

[@artyom8905]

@@javier2642 dude, it's a joke

[@javier2642]

@@artyom8905 I know

[@ancylostomiasis]

Even in 2016 it still looks scifi.

[@georgemilton678]

the hg 3 is even more sci fi and more efficent plane unfortunately we only see it on papers now

[@prometheus4182]

Davi Lu For those who are wondering: It's a Horten H IX

[@yenchey3270]

I've always thought it's Ho-229, al least that's what Wikipedia says, and Il-2 Sturmovik 1946

[@prometheus4182]

Yenchey The prototypes were called Horton H IX. The German Air Ministry (Reichsluftfahrtministerium) gave it the code name 8-299 and the inventors of the plane (Horton brothers) called it Horton Ho 229. But the plane never left prototype status so it never got an official name I guess :)

[@yenchey3270]

Thanks for explaining it

[@alexanderf.8915]

Einfach unglaublich beeindruckend! Eine wahre meisterleistung deutscher Ingenieurskraft!

[@RCScaleAirplanes]

Fantastisch !

[@TheVovius]

It is fantastic. One of my grandfather’s decorations was for shooting down 18 of these fuckers during the forcing of Oder river with his anti-aircraft battery. I call it good project management.

[@thelastcommander8765]

RCScaleAirplanes Its Wunderbar

[@BeavisoPaulaner]

Only 18? Why not 1188?

[@Christof_Classen]

*1188 ? He cant count so far ;)*

[@vonsauerkraut]

bollocks what a load of bollocks why only 18 why not 10,000

[@peter455sd]

I must admit,this is one of the most beautiful things ever created

[@Dave-lr2wo]

Just like the death camps and VW scandal, among many other things.

[@Dave-lr2wo]

I'm going to spend my time in an internet debate with some revisionist neo-Nazi piece of shit FUCK? Nein, Herr Zykon B: They were death camps, and you are a piece of shit. You can reply, but you get no more of my time.

[@itsyurmumm8458]

wewewewewe Many German soldiers didn't even know about the death camps, only soldiers in the SS. All sides in ww2 did horrible things, war isn't nice, but the technology of war, such as jet powered flight, are nice.

[@cop-killer-]

+wewewewewe you know youre wrong

[@Dave-lr2wo]

It's the Post-Fact era. The era of fake elections, Donald Trump bootlickers, and moral weaklings.

[@CristianoRonaldo-wt4oj]

Short of raw materials, fuel, war on all fronts, airfields, cities & factories being bombed round the clock and they still put this remarkable plane in the air (and in combat)

[@Rubashow]

Because of an ample supply of slave labour ...

[@diegoroberto1347]

@@Rubashow even the allied nations do that

[@TheZod00]

@@diegoroberto1347 Besides the USSR, no they did not.

[@Zerggodmaster]

@@TheZod00 ehhh if you look carefully they did in ways

[@Rubashow]

@@Zerggodmaster So, which ways? Did they force 10.000 people to dig an underground bunker without shelter, adequate clothing, sanitation and food? Because that's what messerschmitt did to get its jet factory ...

[@kuyaforce6103]

After all these years, every war machines made by all the WW2 participants still puts most if not all of in awe. And I think that is beautiful :)

[@joefish6091]

We see and admire the popular ie surviving working aircraft, esp movie worthy ones, there were plenty of expensive junk lemons (junk made for profit not use) that were made in lesser numbers that were death traps and useless.

[@bkjeong4302]

Except the ones that ONLY look cool but were a strategic waste of resources that didn’t do anything that other weapons couldn’t have done better. Looking at you, all the WWII-gen battleships.

[@ThePointlessBox_]

still one of the most beautiful looking planes ever built

[@okrajoe]

Amazing sound of the Me262 from 70+ years ago.

[@roteroktober360]

this isnt the original engine

[@leneanderthalien]

+florianweiss007 only suicidal pilots will fligh with the original engines...they was extremly unreliable and the TBO only 25 hours (in the best cases), but most , they explode before...

[@fullgreys0n738]

25 fly hours are correct, but in this short amount of thime there were reliable.

[@19Koty96]

they just required good pilotage

[@gregedwards1087]

No, not sound from 70 years ago at all, #501244 is a replica Me-262 built in 2006 with GE J-85 engines that were first designed in the late 50's, these are probably refurbished units that were built in the late 80's.

[@eaglex5723]

Engineers in WWII: Let's design planes. German engineers in WWII: Let's invent planes.

[@vermilion7777]

@Luke Wilson Man, you really got some serious half knowlege here... The swastika is a symbol used in cultures all over the world. Also swastika is the indian name. We germans call it Hakenkreuz (hooked cross). Aryan just means "noble" in indogermanic roots. The aryan stuff wasn't originally used by nazis, but by british 19th century authors who invented all that stuff, which the nazis builded their ideology on. Tell me, why is it more narcisstic for the germans to call themself the "noble people", than for the persians? By the way, they wasn't probably the first one either, who used that word. It's very, very old...

[@conny5296]

@Luke Wilson aryan and swastika was also used in europa so not really stealing. Also a few indians fought on germanys side.

[@conny5296]

@Luke Wilson well the INA in the asian theater had around 100k soldiers which is quit a bunch. For the european Theater it were only around 3k.

[@MetalGuitarTimo]

@@conny5296 the finnish airforce still uses it btw

[@franziskafabig9263]

My Great Grandpa was one of the engineers 👋🏻

[@plebulus]

God imagine how futuristic this was at the time

[@redbear1935]

grandfather of all jet fighters :).

[@SHx589]

The Opa of all jet fighters 😉

[@1pcfred]

The British built the Meteor first. But the Germans got their plane operational first.

[@1pcfred]

@Clorox Tree the Meteor flew. It just was not used operationally. The British were not that desperate. So they didn't need to use everything they had. Allies stuck with more conventional platforms.

[@josecolon2717]

Robo Redneck even then, the discussion can be shut down even harder when you mention the He-178 that flew in 1939! Germans win, check and mate

[@AlexanderJScheu]

@@1pcfred stupido - if - so - churchill would have been - selling his Soul - - for a progressive jet... britain won only under aspect of USA Materials . see Africa battles.. and any others- later

[@derlasercrafterwally4342]

These jets shooting down propeller driven bombers be like "The future is now, old man"

[@matteogalbiati8730]

Propeller driven B-17 squadron: *proceeds to unleash several thousands tons of explosives upon the jet factory*

[@somedudewithgrassgrowingou4177]

"the future was, Young man"

[@chairmanzia3556]

they sometimes blow up themsleves

[@bruhmoment9573]

And the me 262's gets casually shot down by a propeller driven p-51 mustang while trying to turn -_-

[@chairmanzia3556]

@@bruhmoment9573 if they don't blow up first, it was literally a flying bomb.....

[@Aikaramba12]

It looks like a modern plane! Imagine seeing this in 1945

[@jaywalker712]

Imagine being a allied pilot and having to deal with them.

[@nowaskmehow]

They got a lot right back then, more than you'd expect.

[@youraveragescotsman7119]

@@jaywalker712 Easy. Fly a Tempest and just yeet it out of the skies. The only aircraft the 262 feared was the Hawker Tempest (and Spitfire to a lesser extent) as they were the only Planes that could actually KEEP UP with them in a dive.

[@גבריאל1994]

@卍 dein Hakenkreuz ist falsch herum.

[@ironcraig700]

@@youraveragescotsman7119 Why did you make P-51 go cry in the corner? (Sad P-51 noices) :-(

[@jakubkrcma]

This plane may be 80 years old (piston 1941, jet 1942) but it looks and sounds MEGA cool even today! What a total engineering masterpiece!

[@solovevkiril]

Allies air forces: what the hell is that? Luftwaffe: turbomachines, son!

[@flxdrv5020]

allied knew well about jet propulsion, the inventor of the jet engine even is french

[@MausOfTheHouse]

@@flxdrv5020 I agree, but that's debatable.

[@flxdrv5020]

@@MausOfTheHouse what? that's not debatable,literaly from wikipedia "The first patent for using a gas turbine to power an aircraft was filed in 1921 by Frenchman Maxime Guillaume.[8] His engine was an axial-flow turbojet." also my bad i meant french not british

[@flxdrv5020]

@D2RG6 no because because compressor at the time (1921) weren't sofiscated enough, but allied forces knew what the fuck a jet engine was. don't act like the germans invented it and the allies were cleuless about it. it's true that the germans were the first to make a jet fighter, but the british and americans knew what it was and were also working on it. It's just that they didn't really saw the point at the time, and still heavely invested in the piston engine that was at the time way more reliable, and much cheaper.

[@blu_e1910]

Luftwaffle

[@fetusofetuso2122]

it sounds awsome now. I can hardly imagine the first time mankind heard that scream on an airport tarmac.

[@andrewstrongman305]

The ME 262 has to be one of the most beautiful looking aircraft ever made.

[@Tyrfingr]

That and the Horten 229

[@Maverick8t88]

Agreed.

[@neilcowan535]

Maybe without the two giant engines.....

[@MausOfTheHouse]

I think that award goes to the spitfire.

[@andrewstrongman305]

@@MausOfTheHouse If you insist on prop driven aircraft, how about the 'Arrow'?

[@Frisher1]

I am simple man I see ME 262 I click

[@generalsquirrel9548]

Same

[@rickpin_0612]

Same

[@j.heberhernandez3037]

Same over here.

[@Mr.fox13686]

Same

[@OneMoreDesu]

Same, except I don't make cringe joke comments when I do.

[@arifcso6633]

Jet planes: *Has no propeller* Allies pilots: *Confusion Scream*

[@ScienceChap]

Frank Whittle patented his first jet engine in 1930. His first engine ran in 1937. His first prototype flew in 1940. Jets were not a mystery in 1944.

[@shidfard]

@@ScienceChap I am sure that wasn't common knowledge for Joe Blow coming from Indiana during WW2

[@speelangs7161]

@@ScienceChap You feel bad because yet again German technology were waaay ahead of yours?

[@ScienceChap]

@@speelangs7161 it wasn't. The German jet engines were prototypes which needed rebuilding every few hours. British engines were slower entering operational service but were vastly more reliable. German radar was a long way behind. German shipbuilding was a long way behind having been stunted by the Treaty of Versailles. Their tanks were good but overcomplicated and overengineered.

[@speelangs7161]

@@ScienceChap Please don't even compare your technology with the German... its even funny. No nation in such low amount of time produced so much technology. Fist operative jet in the world. First jet bomber. First Rocketry technology "V1 & V2". Guided weapons. First assault rifle. First ejection seat. Maybe the Kriegsmarine didn't had many new technologies, still they demonstrated how to blow the Hood, and their subs how to starve your whole country supplies. Look at your troops didn't had a proper designed helmed...the Germans were dressed "to kill". You English can't accept when a nation is superior than yours. That's your problem, you sub estimate your enemies. Well.. with the Germans your leaders realized that they were no joke.

[@HDPinkFloyd]

fly the damn thing !!!!!

[@Commander_Nathan]

didn't you see the title? engine sound, not flying it

[@micfail2]

Fly it? Are you insane? Not only would the pilot be risking his life, he would be risking the destruction of an irreplaceable piece of history, at present there are only three me-262s in existence that can fly, although all of them are equipped with updated engines for safety reasons. As a great man once said, "it belongs in a museum!"

[@FarmsVilla]

Agreed. Fly it ffs!

[@barryaiello3127]

@@micfail2 It was properly restored and is a flying example. Plenty of P-51's and Spitfire's around that are 100% airworthy and regularly flown.

[@micfail2]

@@barryaiello3127 part of its restoration was replacing the engines with more modern recreation versions so that it would not be a life-ending experience to ignite the engines. look it up. That doesn't change the fact that it is one of only three examples of that aircraft in the entire world that is capable of flying, actually flying it would be incredibly irresponsible and short-sighted. It belongs in a museum, not in the sky. There are hundreds of examples of operational p-51s and spitfires, many of them privately owned. In fact, Harrison Ford crash landed one on a golf course. A historical aircraft that we have hundreds or thousands of operational examples of is one thing. A historical aircraft which we only have three operational examples of in the entire world is a totally different story. Lifting that aircraft off the runway would be a crime of epic proportions, nearly as bad as isis demolishing ancient Persian ruins. I guess we should not expect Germans to understand that, they are too obsessed with their guilt to have even a basic understanding of the historical value of artifacts.

[@chr0min0id]

“It’s as if the angels were pushing” - Adolf Galland

[@eeee0101]

@@TheInternationalBlackLipPlate what the fuck

[@niewissen9912]

Close.....it was aliens giving them the technology at that time according to the ancient alien theory and secret documents that was released. Even Wernher von Braun had said that was the case

[@KevinPetrusNL]

Rather demons than angels I'd reckon...

[@gbner9991]

*Es ist, als wenn ein Engel schiebt.

[@SuperDachshund]

I read his biography "Fighter General." One of the most interesting biographies I've ever read.

[@otisobl]

My dad trained as a pilot on this plane but he eventually got sick, and had to leave the school. That might have been the best thing that could happen as not many ME262 pilots survived.

[@robichj]

They never survived because it was near the end of the war, so they were very out numbered by the allies. But if this plane was invented at the beginning of the war, then it would be a whole different story.

[@pashakdescilly7517]

@@robichj Most of the Me262 pilots died as a result of problems with the plane. It was dangerous like the Me-163 Komet

[@TheMegaPingasMobile]

@@pashakdescilly7517 Allies focused on attacking these planes while lifting off/landing, most were destroyed this way actually iirc

[@zzaronn]

@@pashakdescilly7517 that's urban legend made by the american

[@Ricecookerrrrrrrrrrr]

@@zzaronn No it isn’t the fan blades in the plane where weak due to lack of matierials goering used them wrong and didn’t make enough and the pilots save for the aces didn’t even know how to fly them

[@AllTheBestCO]

The Messerschmitt Me 262 was way ahead of its time. This was a project designed/created for the future -- back then. Amazing.

[@leneanderthalien]

not realy: the design from the me 262 had a very weak from landing gear, bad canons, very unreliable engines and with major aerodynamic problems (tail who make the aircraft uncontrolable over 950km/h): tthis explain why the Me 262 was never copied...

[@scorchclasstitan6727]

analyste that’s because the materials were weak moron

[@scorchclasstitan6727]

analyste and never copied ? Stop commenting kid my brain can’t take you’re biased pie hole

[@The1RedRooster]

@@leneanderthalien Still had an Impressive kill-count.

[@marrvynswillames4975]

@@scorchclasstitan6727 the only true copy were an japanese prototype and the mig-9, who was descarted in favor of the mig15, who was based in British design

[@satriamarshall312]

"German science is the world's finest!" - Rudol von Stroheim

[@emotown1]

Interesting name, sort of like Rudolf but with no L

[@satriamarshall312]

@@emotown1 Actually i made a typo lol. His actual name is Rudol

[@emotown1]

@@satriamarshall312 Just googled the name to check. That's a most weird rabbit hole you led me down!

[@KingSaheb0079]

@@emotown1 Speaking of Rabbit Holes, Allow Me to Introduce You to a Little Something Called “Hololive” Peko Dayo.

[@deadly2407]

@@KingSaheb0079 son of a bitch

[@davecrupel2817]

A detailed breakdown for all you eager young minds that like to analyze. Along with context and reasoning herr and there. 0:21 the Marshal pays close attention to the #2 engine and relevant structuring to make sure all is well. Meanwhile the starter is accelerating the engine towards self-operating power. 0:24 flame-on. Engine is brought up to flight idle power (or maybe a bit less. Varies from plane to plane) to provide air/electrical power to start engine #1. Observe the thermal-air distortion above the main landing gear wheel. 0:54 the pilot is requesting the Fire Marshal's permission to begin starting sequence for Engine #1. The Marshal gives the all-clear as he moves because he knows it's safe to start. 1:00 listen closely. You can hear Engine #2's rpm drop slightly as it's load is suddenly increased by spooling up Engine #1. Same thing happens in your car when you turn the air conditioning on. More load on the engine, more work for it to do. Doesn't harm it of course, but slows it down slightly. If that engine were left on ground idle, the load would overwhelm it and slow the turbines down, heating them up VERY quickly. And stalling the compressor. Which is a turbine's equivalent of a "backfire." And THAT would not be a fun time for the Fire Marshal. So the pilot must raise the power, RPMs, and air flow to handle that load. 1:08 Flame-on Engine #1. Slight lag in rpm increase, (known as a hung start) but it catches up quick enough for a safe, successful start. No more fire risks, so the Marshal does away with the extinguisher.

[@richardb4313]

You do realise these aren't Jumo's. What you hear is 2 General Electric CJ610's starting up.

[@davecrupel2817]

@@richardb4313 Who are you talking to? I see no mentions, of what engines are being used, anywhere.

[@marvindebot3264]

@@richardb4313 What he is describing is the standard start procedure for any jet turbine engine. it matters not what type they are.

[@richardb4313]

@@davecrupel2817 Really? I have to explain this? The video heading says "Messerschmitt Me 262 / engine start / original sound". Most folk would think that means this is what original 262's sounded like starting up.

[@richardb4313]

@@marvindebot3264 "Messerschmitt Me 262 / engine start / original sound"

[@martinolsen8271]

Still to this day a beautiful plane, The Schwalbe is still a great design.

[@FractAlkemist]

I have always thought this is THE COOLEST looking fighter jet of all time, then or now! Awesome sound too!

[@Dowlphin]

What I like about small turbines is that they make you believe they have reached maximum speed, but then you realize they have only just woken up. Then a giant explosion of enegy occurs and you think they're flying apart any moment now but then you realize they have reached idle rev. 😄

[@carmenmiranda4108]

Ah the Germans, a country of engineering. So sad used by a twisted government. When you look at my Porsche you can see it still today. My Dad told me once landed in Normandy our soldiers just marveled at the Tiger and Panther tanks next our Sherman. Good think they had so few of them.

[@Dowlphin]

@@carmenmiranda4108 I like to joke about how important good field radio quality is. Imagine if someone had confused "German tank" and "Sherman tank".

[@mambagr]

Big ones are mostly the same.

[@Dowlphin]

@@mambagr Personally I never got that impression from airliner turbines. I was actually surprised by how timid they sound when taking off with full throttle. But I also know the extreme end of model turbines, so that's my standard. Good examples: B-52 R/C Flight kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHyxgmSKp7V7jMk Fastest RC turbine model jet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eoGqdXSQrrZnas0m25s

[@KSCPMark6742]

Well, I think it's a little misleading to say "original sound"... This aircraft is a replica, powered by a pair of General Electric CJ610 engines, so the sound is probably different that the original Junkers Jumo 004 engines. The old engines were far too unreliable for it to make any sense to use them today.

[@carlf4774]

Really? WTF? Misleading? How about the historical significance? This is an awesome video and what better example to teach our present generation about WW2 aviation. It was of course, primitive technology and had it been applied earlier, could have changed world history. So get of the "knit-pick" and see it for what it is...damn!

[@devilsadvocate2548]

Depends on what defines a 'replica'. I would say more a reproduction. IIRC the project to build the small batch of 262s was so authentic in construction etc (only changes made to aircraft were safety/reglatory changes like deleting the front wheel brake) that the Messerschmitt foundation gave them approval to use airframe 'werk'/serial numbers that continued on from the last wartime airframe produced. They were even given their own 'c' designation that referred to the GE J85 engine used.

[@Jester123ish]

Carl F Yes, it is misleading to say "original sound".

[@devilsadvocate2548]

soaringtractor yes they did!

[@cristobalcardona5592]

J-85 For the military Folks!

[@AvaToyShow]

Like the Ho 229, or the Tiger tank, it looked `right`. Sometimes you can trust aesthetics.

[@pashakdescilly7517]

With the minor issue that the plane was no use as a fighter - interceptor, but not a fighter. It was no good at maneuvering, and could not be throttled up or down. Pilots of the lumbering Wellington bomber were advised to turn sharp left if under attack by the Me262. Yes, a heavy bomber could play turns with this 'fighter' plane.

[@stephenbirks6458]

Aesthetics should be taught a school ! - My / Our old tutor would contstantly tell us at college Back in the late 1970s

[@jupitermoongauge4055]

Not sure about that. It kind of looks like a bottom feeding fish with wings.

[@_AnanasIEgenJuice_]

@@pashakdescilly7517 No, a Wellington cant outturn a Me262. What probably happened is that the Me262 would close at a very high speed compared to the bomber and that high speed already freezes the controls to some extent. Secondly the armament of the Me262 was low velocity 30mm cannons that were difficult to aim because the pilots had to lead their target a lot and only had very low aiming windows because of the high speed of the plane. Secondly, you cant tell your aircrew that they cant do anything against the enemy and still expect them to keep morals up. Instead tell them that if you try a sharp turn you will make it, even though its probably pretty futile. If you were to measure the time it takes a Wellington bomber and a Me262 to do a 360 turn at their most maneuveable speed the Me262 would be far superior for obvious reasons

[@TallTav]

I loved the Kalinin K-7s and K-12s. Couple of my favorite experimental german bombers.

[@bebobism]

I'm Dutch and we got invaded by the Germans in WW II , but I love their innovative capability. I'ts just awesome ! . . . By the way , nowadays they're the most friendly people you'll ever meet. 😎

[@tanamly]

They were always like that... just not their government at the time.

[@peers1111]

heel erg bedankt from Berlin

[@bubbajoe1611]

Until their not.

[@bebobism]

@@bubbajoe1611 Well Joe we Dutch aren't holier than the pope here. In 1672 we ate a minister because we didnt like his 'politics'. 😏

[@TrafficDE]

@@bebobism I mean, you're not you when you're hungry xD

[@mattbates6887]

When I was a kid, the Me 262 was the first jet I built from an Airfix kit. The twin under wing jet design and light grey and dark green dappled camouflage scheme, really caught my imagination. Still looks and sounds pretty impressive!

[@eyesjamesq]

Ein ganz besonderes Flugzeug, das der Konkurrenz weit voraus ist. Es klingt immer noch schön, wenn Sie es anzünden und schwebt wie ein Vogel.

[@tarasbulba3190]

I wonder what the allies thought when they first heard this thing. It looks like a shark. Just beautiful!👍

[@MauriatOttolink]

Stepan Bandera. Shark was its German nickname. Der Haifische. It's German model name was Das Schwalbe...The Swallow.

[@deckdeckard5297]

So true. I've never seen any plane looking so much like a shark.

[@MauriatOttolink]

@@deckdeckard5297 It was even more "sharkish looking " before they removed the dragging tail wheel and made it into a tricycle landing gear. It's problem was the lack of high temperature metals for the turbine. Engines had to come out service after only a very few flying hours .

[@deckdeckard5297]

@@MauriatOttolink Well, I did not even know the Me 262 had been first built with a conventional landing gear. Thanks for the info.

[@robertcolvin5045]

The engines are not original, the original engines had two cycle piston starting engines with pull cords mounted in the front of the engines.

[@DandSCreations]

thanks you, I was wondering where the hell the pull starts were.

[@cmdrantezscar3368]

they put in more modern engines because they wanted to save the original engines, also, gen 1 Jet engines took along time to spin up and spin down so it whould be harder to take of and land with the original engines. so they chose more modern and more powerfull engines. kinda shame but i can understand them.

[@DandSCreations]

Plus original motors only last 50 hours

[@ivanrakaric9859]

and for pilots own life, that old engines are not to be trusted, and you need to remeber when they were produced, its kinda old stuff now... :)

[@LeoA2600]

They didn't have original engines to save. This is a modern reproduction, one of five finished decade or so ago under the auspices of the Me-262 Project.

[@marcooliva2747]

Me 262 " I'm sexy and I know it "

[@steveallred1330]

You have to give Germany credit they were way ahead of their time

[@pawelsawicki1750]

Get a scientists to laboratory, lock them down making sure they know, that their lives and lives of their loved ones depend on success and you got your technological breakthrough...

[@fredericadda]

In engineering maybe. Morally they were ages behind.

[@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132]

German engineering is one of the finest.

[@doyoumakeittotheclouddistr4132]

@Nonya Buziness not really

[@ScienceChap]

No they weren't.

[@vinzklortho3013]

I can’t imagine what the first pilots must have felt hearing and flying these things for the first time.

[@jimmylight4866]

Like Angels pushing you. A. Galland

[@richardwirt3193]

it is still one of the greatest looking airplanes ever made it looks like a shark

[@unionrdr]

I agree. Very aerodynamic looking. The main body section is not unlike a fishing lure to my eyes. Had to cut through the air quite smoothly!?

[@ryanducharme7505]

Actually that's where they got the idea from for the design of the body, was a sharks body

[@dodibenabba1378]

It was nicknamed the Schwalbe which is German for Swallow, personally I think the name Sturmvogel sums it up perfectly..Storm Bird.

[@Berserkk75]

Its start up is so epic, this jet is the pride of the *german manufacture*

[@FairladyS130]

Except that the engines are not German lol

[@Alte.Kameraden]

Still to me the most beautiful Jet Fighter of the 1940s.

[@CDiggy]

Well there is about 5 to choose from so...

[@pokeyrailfanning]

Kameraden it’s more beatiful than any jet fighter all the modern jets suck because one tracking missile and the enemy is done there is no combat at all just missiles.

[@dankovac1609]

@@pokeyrailfanning but when it comes to avoiding those missiles... And they do have guns and they do spray each other with them. Although i get your point, WW2 dogfights we're a damn sport, and i do prefer those.

[@shayden4296]

I prefer horten 229 but this one is also great

[@i_smoke_ghosts]

@@CDiggy classic dude thank you!

[@leelauder4411]

Miles ahead of everything as usual for the brilliant German engineering!

[@TrakThora]

Hell yeah and now incapable of engineering a new german jet fighter.

[@youraveragescotsman7119]

Actually it wasn't that advanced. The Allies had their own Jets in development and, had Germany not pushed out a literal prototype that needed more testing, the Allies might have had their Jets out first. The 262 was pretty shit. Too little and too late. Most of the engines weren't built yet, they were horrendously unreliable and 2/3 of the pilots weren't even trained fully with it.

[@Roger-mz4lx]

A buddy of mine has a collie with 4 dark dots on her nose that looks just like the gun ports on the ME 262 so I call her my Luftwaffe girl and she seems to like that.

[@AndrewTubbiolo]

How does she smell?

[@JustJohn505]

@@AndrewTubbiolo like jet fuel and Volkswagen 😌

[@Tugboatpb]

Like crayons

[@ajhiep4447]

@@Tugboatpb lol

[@paoloviti6156]

Very cool bird! Yes I'm still impressed how clean was the Me-262 to be 70 years ago! Probably the original Jumo was more noisy and less high pitched because of it's lower rpm compared to the modern jets and of course far more temperamental to nurse around because of it's chronic lack of high quality alloys! But despite all those engines were very well built even up to the end and who flew those airplanes all said that it's flying quality was very good! Perhaps it's biggest drawback was the lack of air breaks because of the difficult handling of it's engine and it's unstable flight characteristic at top speed! But that was shared with almost all the early jet fighters! All in all an impressive airplane!

[@FiveCentsPlease]

Should be able to compare the sound of a Jumo soon, unless there are unforseen problems. Here is a rebuilt Jumo, with some upgrades to the alloys: facebook.com/video.php?v=10152841379843666&set=vb.13883518665&type=2&theater

[@paoloviti6156]

FiveCentsPlease really thank you very much! I'm very curious to hear the real sound of the Jumo engine!

[@paoloviti6156]

FiveCentsPlease just saw the link! Very exciting! But I can hear that there is still some problems beyond the Reidler starter that making some racket! It is probably a question of adjusting here and there but nevertheless those guys did a hell of a good job!

[@paoloviti6156]

***** I understand some german and I know that it was called "Schwalbe" but it is a semi-official name!

[@Elodea]

We had a running Jumo 004 engine at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, back in the late 1960's. I guarantee that you've never heard a turbine engine running and producing anything like the very strange sound of a 004. Nothing at all like the sound of a modern turbine engine.

[@nicholaspatton5590]

Did it sound like Polka?

[@kiril135790]

its not the real engine, its a new modern one

[@calvinnyala9580]

So, how does it sound? More of a whosh than high pitch modern whine?

[@LemmingOverlord]

@@nicholaspatton5590 It sounded like "Deutschland uber alles" in stereo

[@josephcrider2280]

I was there In Miami at Embry Riddle 1962 when we got the engine running.

[@stealthg35infiniti94]

Got to see one first hand in the German Air Museum in Munich. It was very impressive along with its rocket pods. Along side of it was an ME 109. This is a must visit for an aviation aficionado.

[@IC3DZOMBIE]

Crazy just how much those engines changed the world

[@jacksonville667]

IC3D ZOMBIE Not that one specifically though, had something like 30 hours until it burned itself out.

[@kakhak]

Crazy outstanding machine for 40's! This is just phenomenal. Ahead of its time for dozens of years.

[@dmitrijkuznetsov8053]

2040J. Этим азиатам и не снилось что мы делали. Факт. Будут возражать: мы их уёбищ что добровольно трудились в Германии размажем..

[@jacksonville667]

British came in I think in 1944 or 1945 with the Meteor, but by god this thing looks so much better.

[@reaktroyt7989]

And this is from WWII. Amazing! 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪

[@wwhb4780]

ROTFL it was built in 2006. It is as authentic as the Tyrannosaurus Rex in "Jurassic Park".

[@elijah5199]

It's all fun and games until the pilot murmurs "hail hydra" before taking off

[@zachboyd4749]

“Oops, the engine have been running for 10 minutes straight already! Oh well, time to completely rebuild them!”

[@midgetman4206]

You made it to 10 minutes? What, you stealing from the the fuel "reserves"?

[@FlyLeah]

Are you american by chance?

[@zachboyd4749]

@funkyleah Yeah I'm American, why?

[@michealdeacons7820]

10 minutes? That’s pretty generous

[@tyree9055]

Actually they had a service life of 24 hours before they needed to be rebuilt.

[@c-3po37]

German engineering has always been incredible.

[@stripervince1]

Not really. I had a BMW and it was a piece of shit

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

@@stripervince1 YUP. The incredibility is g o n e - sadly. Look at Great Britain as example. Once leading in almost e v e r y t h i n g and now take a look today, how sad: Only the "city of London" and these crude, fxckxng money-shyte bizzyness . . .WHAT a d e c l i n e . . .Germany now too like BMW as you mentioned!

[@peturdobrev1196]

👍 YES! GREETINGS FROM BULGARIA 🇧🇬

[@JoshPhoenix11]

Those same engineers became NASA in Operation Paperclip.

[@Surpriseify]

@@AL_THOMAS_777 How is British engineering not still incredible? Also whats wrong with the Germans? what you think Pakistan is the new wonderchild? Who even comes close to these nations? If you say Russia or China you are sadly beyond saving. Russia cant even produce computer parts, China is catching up but at this point they can produce a chip roughly matching what the West could produce 10 years ago. Computers are everything in modern warfare.

[@ChevyBM]

These are beautiful fighters!

[@frankpolo2088]

Glorious Messerschmitt,what a start up ,smooth as you wish for.

[@arktis6990]

And remember kids, this plane was made in desperation, think about if it wasn’t made in desperation and all of the arms you would be fully extending at a 45 degree angle

[@thegodfather_8455]

The planes concept was envisioned in the 30s soo

[@arktis6990]

@@thegodfather_8455 ye Ik, but it was the same with the rocket propelled planes, they were only entering production when Germany needed them

[@Indo-Sama777]

Willy was trying to design the 262 to be perfect for quite a while.

[@voyager2230]

And the germans win and alternate history from man in the high castle become true

[@Indo-Sama777]

Not to mention the plane was being designed in the late 30's, just that desperation sped up that process but not enough to have an impact on the outcome of the war

[@theWebkinzkitty]

Original 004 used a 22hp 2 stroke piston engine as the starter, they used a pull ring at the front of the motor. This is a modern Jet engine starting. I would really love to her an original 004 start.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

Sometime soon: facebook.com/flyingheritagecollection/videos/vb.13883518665/10152841379843666/?type=2&theater

[@theWebkinzkitty]

Germans did not put hour meters on those Jets, They did not expect them to survive more than a few combat missions. Which is also why they were only designed to last 20 hours. Cost per unit would have been increased considerably with higher quality metals.

[@FiveCentsPlease]

Lester Maxx Nearly every plane (piston or jet) used a log book, not an hour meter. Lack of strategic materials was not intentional for Germany. Some of the test engines from Jumo that were made with better metals were reaching 100 hours before overhaul, and the US Army Air Force evaluation documents of captured jet engines mention that the Germans had synthesized a new metal alloy that would have been used in the engines to increase life, but it was too late in the war to go into production.

[@theWebkinzkitty]

Motors could be pulled and replaced, Germans knew these Jet Engines were only good for 20 hours.

[@b43xoit]

Was the starting engine integral to the plane? And what kind of transmission linked it to the jet engine?

[@IDiggSocialMedia]

WW 2's best looking aircraft and my favorite, along with the He-280 jet and the Japanese Shinden canard!

[@petervonhoven4401]

Dieses geniale Flugzeug, hätte damals früher fertig sein sein müssen. Und mit großer Stückzahl.

[@whitetiger2048]

beautiful aircraft

[@theaviator1328]

Whitetiger

[@whitetiger2048]

+The Aviator yes?

[@goldeneagle3218]

Shark.

[@MIronLance]

I can't even imagine the reactions of the piston engine ground crews and pilots on first hearing one these start up.

[@maxik7929]

Amazing! Реально круто! Живая история.

[@dragoncarver287]

My Dad was in Europe during that conflict. He was checking out some skid marks on the Autobahn. He said "What could have been going on here?" So he started looking and checking. He found a brand new Me262 camouflaged off to one side. They were using the Autobahn for a runway. The skid marks were from landing. He said he went up to it and rubbed his hand on the leading edge. "You didn't dare do any more than that. It might have been boobytrapped." I went to an airshow and looked at an A10. I rubbed the leading edge and remembered him and his story.

[@norbertovendeto4530]

Heute ist es immer noch sagenhaft... Man kann wirklich nur staunen!

[@Cobaltthoriumg]

man those twin engines are like Mozart and Wagner in love to my ears, if airplanes were like girls, I def marry this firecracker

[@bbb462cid]

:) General Electric engines

[@roberth.goddardthefatherof6376]

omfg biggest wehraboo i've ever seen!

[@mikewisdom4165]

Bloody stunning the usa have built two new ones for display only the yanks would do this shame us brits dont get our ass in gear and dothe same ps in 1962 when i was 15 uk sold of hurricanes and spitfires at 25 pound with one flight out

[@augustopinochet2495]

I just had an idea for a new Japanese dating sim...

[@gorillaump5869]

Bob Montague....OK, that's an odd comment.

[@thegeneral565]

"The first true turbo jet engine. The last hope for the Luftwaffe" medal of honor PSX 👍🏼

[@josecolon2717]

He-178 was first... why does everyone forget about the 178

[@angelarainey7258]

My father was a Spitfire pilot and was the only allied pilot to fly an ME262 from Belgium to a England at the end of the war and land it safely. I have his account, his Log Books and the editorial evidence. They had an interpreter on the first day to talk about technical things and my father sent a bottle of wine to his room that night to say thank you - he was not allowed to eat in the mess - the next day it turned out he spoke perfect English so the interpretor wasn't needed and they could talk pilot to pilot. He was an amazing man.

[@vadokunvot]

Such a beauty, good thing that the nazis didnt get it out in time and in greater numbers though. But still, a marvel of German design that one can only admire.

[@glizzygordon5395]

vadokunvot even if they did get a good amount of them, jet fuel would have been a big obstacle

[@mathiasrryba]

The engines were pretty bad too. Basically you'd need to install fresh new engines after every flight or two, else you'd risk catching fire midflight from engine failure.

[@vadokunvot]

@@mathiasrryba yes, they couldent get the right materials for the engines due to the cause of the war. Dont remember what they used but it could not withstand the heat so good.

[@chaowingchinghongfingshong3109]

@@mathiasrryba One flight takes 40 hours for you?

[@mathiasrryba]

@@chaowingchinghongfingshong3109 the of these jumos would break after 10

[@mr.nibblenips4231]

Imagine if the Third Reich had 10,000 of these around 1941...

[@chadthundercock4806]

AR Hamidi this plane was a fighter bomber, it delayed production but it could preform close air support, although 10,000 of these are completely useless if you don’t have fuel, which was the German situation.

[@gordon4385]

Then they would have needed 10000 more pilots.

[@unphazed_]

Rip oil reserves.

[@blainegoodwin6365]

They'd all get blown out of the sky. They didn't stand a chance against a p51

[@TitovIgorBro]

JetfireWithy Your father could survive + you wouldn’t exist... Hmm... Is your mother jewish?

[@Astora_345]

I'm feeling the power of its engine's sounds

[@friendofcoal]

Vielen Dank for posting. To see one on static display is one thing, but to actually hear one is a real bonus...

[@Medmann48]

I urge you to read Adolf Galland's book "The First & The Last". In the book he writes what it was like to fly the ME262, the smooth liftoff & wonderful power. He said you could not help but find it easy to shoot down bombers with it because it had 30MM cannon which would chew up a B-17 pretty easy. He laments in the book that they did not have the ME262 sooner in the war, if they had theallies would have been in big trouble.

[@1993Crag]

If they had the 262 earlier then the Luftwaffe would have been crippled from its maintenance issues.

[@gw7624]

You could also say the Germans would have been in (more) trouble if the British government had funded development of the jet engine from its invention by Frank Whittle.

[@frittsm6417]

If it had so much power on takeoff, why did the Luftwaffe have piston driven fighter fly top cover on take off and landing.

[@SteveZiomekAFA89]

You can have all the power you want on takeoff. You are still slow. The best time to shoot down an aircraft is when it is at 130-150 kts with its gear hanging. A FW190 could kill a Raptor if the F-22 is just taking off. That's why the Luftwaffe had prop fighters covering their takeoff.

[@locutus155]

I believe that Galland also said that the best jet fighter never made would be the Me262 airframe with the Rolls Royce engine of the Gloster Meteor, as those engines were more reliable and had fewer problems than the Jumo 004 units that the Me262 airframe was fitted with.

[@daskarman]

German engineering Marvel Love it! 👍

[@jiridvorak]

This is Spitfire of Luftwaffe.....Neverending beauty !

[@tomm5256]

I love how he pats the wing. Ground crew love.

[@wolfleader3727]

this is one of my Fav aircraft love the 190 and the 262

[@flak8842]

Same here

[@maxw5229]

This thing is just beatiful to watch and hear.

[@Talltrees84]

Itimidating to see and hear. Many an Allied pilot probably s$%t in their pants after seeing what this thing could do. After being confused seeing no props. Still too little too late for the Germans. They needed to have delayed the war for another two years, build up their more conventional weapons and further perfected wonder weapons like this (and make more of them).

[@groupcaptainbonzo]

Very smooth, very Modern for “original” sound

[@eanayayo]

No one in a healthy mind would use Jumo 004 or BMW 003, it's too dangerous.

[@flak8842]

@@eanayayo wait Dangerous ? How it is dangerous it is jet engine Do you mean than any instant change of the throttle would damage the engine ?

[@leneanderthalien]

@@flak8842 maximum TBO from the original engines was 25 hours ,but the most explode before (...) The engines use on the museum reproduction Me 262 are General electric CJ610 engines...

[@alexmidu5890]

uses j85 engines, jumo litterally explodes cuz it was sooooo hot

[@larrysmith6797]

It's a replica with General Electric CJ610 engines.

[@j.d.peppmeier9041]

My dad was a B-24 pilot, shot down, and a POW at Stalag Luft I . There was an adjacent Luftwaffe base and the "kriegies" saw the Me262 fly. Very impressive ! Still a good-looking airplane !

[@saeidyazdani]

Simply wow! Some countries can not make something like this even now in 2020 :))

[@flak8842]

If the 262 wasn't invented along with the 163 The modern world today won't be able to discover both of jet engines and rocket engines They would still use the post war piston engine planes

[@josephastier7421]

The steam turbine was invented in 1884. A jet engine is the same idea in reverse, creating fluid flow from power. Someone else would have hit upon that idea eventually.

[@ИсомидинАхмеджанов]

The nose seems like smiling saying "Propell dudes, hold my shnapsz" :) Seriously, it is smiling :))))

[@akifhossain5122]

"If you want the best...you buy German" -Ahoy (Video: MP5)

[@imadethischanneltocomment767]

Engine goes kaputt after 7 hours

[@midgetman4206]

@@imadethischanneltocomment767 wow, you made it all the way to the engine? The actuators usually fail before then

[@tinycockjock1967]

To be fair if anyone says the Me-262 was a good plane is braindead. The upkeep costs too much and the service life of most component is not months, not weeks, not days, but hours. You’d have to be a new kind of insane to even think it’s a good aircraft. Kill ratio and speed alone don’t win wars.

[@xwormwood]

@@tinycockjock1967 If your argument would be correct, all US Stealth Fighter would "insane" as well.

[@bh8671]

@@tinycockjock1967 only brain dead person here is you with your complete ignorance and stupidity and brainwashed American propaganda.

[@HowardJohnstone]

The Engine sound is NOT Jumo 004B but GE CJ610 as this is a modern replica from the Stormbird´s project. Modern replicas was/is the only way to fly an ME262 today. This engine has a great safety record and will provide for stunning aerobatics should this be asked for!

[@FiveCentsPlease]

+ HowardJohnstone Paul Allen invested his money to rebuild his museum's original Me-262 with reworked Jumo turbines, with plans for short flights. But all work and projects at his museum are currently stopped after he passed away. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fIHEq6h8hr94adE

[@HowardJohnstone]

@@FiveCentsPlease Excellent, this IS the real Jumo 004B sound!

[@olehhumeniuk1632]

The most aesthetically beautiful plane 2WW

[@stevencramsie9172]

The Spitfire might want a word.

[@Giovanni_Dortona]

I agree

[@Giovanni_Dortona]

@@stevencramsie9172The Spitfire has to catch up first

[@lexus8018]

This thing looks so good.

[@kodiak64]

The idea is you're meant to have tech like this at the START of WW2, not at at the end.

[@kiwihame]

Damn clever bastards! Watching that must've been quite surreal in 1944. Like a flying White Shark. I bet they were terrifying in action, with all those Mk.108s blazing away. Impressive.

[@rhendrickson886]

Stunningly beautiful design. I've always wondered if the designers studied the shape of sharks when figuring this aircraft out.

[@marvindebot3264]

Indeed they did.

[@manofthematch44]

sounds like my vacuum.

[@AnimatedAirlines]

lol

[@plutoniumpie]

Means yer hose is clogged

[@alecfoster4413]

scorpion_ggwp- B-29's never saw action in the European theater. And P-51s shot these vacuums as they would take off. Beautiful and innovative plane but too little too late for the 3rd Reich. Also, isn't that a reproduction using Pratt & Whitney engines?

[@vteckikdinyoo]

Alec Foster wouldnt the p51s get hit by some kind of anti aircraft defence ?

[@AndreasWernerReiske]

Haha ... so Your vacuum is made in Germany !??

[@cos-sin-tan-std-dui-fbi-uti-hi]

My grandpa had a panic attack when I played in the next room.

[@mohabatkhanmalak1161]

Beautiful, Made in Germany. The Japanese also took some design elements of the Me 262 and built their version of a high altitude interceptor and bomber for the Navy called the Nakajima Kikka. Its wings were slightly shorter and it used the landing gear of the Mitsubishi Zero.