Accessories | Buy now, or buy later?

[@MessicksEquip]

Notice the redish sky, thats smoke in PA from the California wildfires.

[@Windsor1492]

The smoke from California is visible here too... in Norway.

[@roflstomps324]

We have crazy sunsets here in Ohio. One day the smoke was occluding the sun so much, you could almost look at it.

[@DonnieDarko727]

Arson

[@hoofhearted1833]

They should use those California liberal tears to put out the fires. Fill the seat! TRUMP 2020!

[@lcee6592]

Messick's Equipment Reminds me of Deep Purple, Smoke on the water!

[@miggity803]

I have no intention of buying a tractor as a city dweller with an HOA, and I do not live in your service area anyways. Despite that, your videos are so open, honest, and informative I have subscribed and if my needs change over time I hope to be able to purchase from you.

[@derekdreke4990]

Neil is a stand up guy says allot about you and your business your running 👌 top shelf mate

[@philswords6390]

Another very good video. I am amazed at how well Neil explains the pros and cons with his videos. Growing up on a small farm and working part time at a Kubota dealer in my retirement years it appears to me that these videos are straight up and very much worth your time to study if you are planning any type of equipment purchase in the future. Some tractors have premium 3 pt hitches while economy hitches may need a quick hitch ( as long as currently owned equipment is quick hitch compatible). Just my opinion!

[@justadbeer]

Hey Neil, thanks for all your info! I've been watching your videos over the last few months and they are a wealth of knowledge. We ended up pulling the trigger on a B2650 last night. Aside from the loader, we also got a tiller, land plane, and a set of pallet forks (with a multi implement rebate). Also had the 3rd function valve installed for later down the road. Happy Happy Happy! -

[@mesanders1113]

My uncle once told me it should be illegal to sell a tractor without a loader. 80% of the time I think he is 100% correct and the other 20% of the time they are easy enough to remove atleast on the newer ones.

[@pilotmatt293]

Crashz28 a tractor less than 100 hp is pointless without a loader

[@prjndigo]

07:30 *Always ask the dealer if there are any implements that you shouldn't use and not a bad idea to discuss implement purchases through the dealer's eyes even if used or third party.* Some of the savings you get when you buy a couple implements with your tractor is it's all one trip for delivery... there's a thought!

[@petedohmen8827]

Messicks, What a classy dealership.

[@jeffherndon]

In my limited experience I have learned that any option you buy up front that has an installation the installation is free if you get it upfront and additional if you don’t. I can’t stress what Neal said any more, get the hydraulics up front.

[@wildbill23c]

When I was checking into buying a tractor, I figured I'd want the 3rd function valve on the loader at some point, but the dealer said it could be added anytime and wouldn't recommend adding something like that to the financing...I think its less than $1,000 to have that 3rd function added including a few hours of labor....however, in my case I may never have it added later down the road because by then I usually have an empty wallet...so sometimes its a better idea to roll everything into that small monthly payment regardless of what the dealer recommends, they're not the one making your payment or buying that accessory/attachment/implement...so do what you want its your money and purchase of the equipment. Get what you really know you need up front while the dealer has the tractor. For me I have to borrow a truck and trailer to get it and the implements/attachments home after purchasing a new machine so it makes far more sense to get everything before I pickup the machine.

[@stevemaccollum4688]

I’m certain you missed your calling as some hot shot radio announcer or talk show host. But you seem to enjoy talking about tractors. And for that. I’m glad. I’ve learned more than I thought I could ever know about my tractor and tractors I’d like to own in the future from your videos. 🚜👍

[@jaybee2344]

He could start a Podcast Tractors 101

[@thecatandthekub1223]

Man I wrestled with this question when recently ordering a new Grand L6060. Based on the discount level and financing option, I ended up with a page of options, a quick hitch and seven implements 😁😁😁

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

As always, great advice from the "sage" of tractors! 👏👏👏

[@jenniferwhitewolf3784]

Long ago when I bought my original BX23, I did not add a roto-tiller to the package that was financed. Huge regret... A few thousand more on the plan would have made little difference, but later coming up with a few grand to buy a tiller was never in the works. Consider your work mission and FUTURE possibilities, and finance all together as one package.

[@wildbill23c]

This is my same thoughts as well...I've had this issue before with vehicles too. It seems like a savings at the time skipping a few accessories, then a while down the road you wish you had it and don't have that extra $$$ lying around to get it....for a tractor/implement/attachment purchase, it is definitely a sit down and do your homework very thoroughly before jumping into buying because all those implements and attachments add up very quickly, but if you are lucky enough to be able to get one of those 0% deals you would be money ahead to do so. Sometimes when you purchase implements/attachments up front you get $100 or so off for each additional implement you buy when you buy the tractor as part of a package deal....so it makes sense to buy what you really need up front, at least for me it makes a lot of sense where I may never have the money lying around in the future when I suddenly decide that one attachment would be so useful...yeah cool, well umm now what LOL. I was looking at the Kubota BX2680 as I'd use the extra HP for PTO implements I plan to use, but its just never worked out to be able to get one, and now this year refinancing the house to get my name on the mortgage and my mother's name off of it who passed away 3 years ago, has taken up even more money, so kick the can down the road even further on ever getting a tractor...and the 0% financing for those who qualify for that could have bought it with cash in the first place, the rest of us don't qualify for that, not even sure why they boast about it because the majority of people don't qualify.

[@dallasdavis3246]

if you are buying a tractor a loader is a must unless the tractor is going to be used for a special purpose but it is cheaper to buy new so the tractor is set for it and the loaders are less expensive with a tractor purchase

[@tlbdad123]

I’m looking to buy a tractor soon, wish you were closer to Alabama, I enjoy your videos and insight, I’ve learned a lot Thanks

[@sphill_edc]

Thanks Neil for the continued awesome content. It has been pivotal in my Kubota purchase.

[@durwoodfoote9607]

Good job as usual Neil, I would make one comment though. I bought a new GL4060 at Paris, Texas Kubota and I included the 3rd function with loader and grappler! I have found the grappler and the Land Pride mower to be my favorite accessories! I can't imagine tending to my 60 acres, debris, brush, etc., without those two accessories and Yes, I bought them with the initial tractor purchase and the Kubota zero whatever loan package! Love the L4060 and my Land Pride accessories (grappler, mower, front loader, 3 point quick hitch, tiller, hydraulic auger, box blade, and palate fork). Keep up the good work, I'm a new bee and you've taught me sooooo much! Thanks.

[@michaelromanello9462]

Lots of great stuff! Thank you for all your input and info

[@andrewdonohue1853]

i bought a used BX2350, a year later i added a loader. i have a kubota dealer 3 houses down from my house. i drove the tractor there, dropped it off and picked it up when it was done. i DID have to add a loader valve, but as i had purchased the machine USED i did not have the option of having the loader valve on the tractor when it was purchased new. to anyone thinking about buying a NEW machine i would insist on having a loader valve

[@JeremyTVOK]

Great video! I wish I had financed a couple more implements with my B2650. I second that about the front end loader - you WILL use it, and use it MORE than you could have imagined.

[@wildbill23c]

The loaders on the BX, and B-Series tractors seem pretty easy to install and remove, not sure on the larger L, MX, and M series but yeah those small tractor/loader combos make not buying the loader a stupid move really, and when it comes to resell later, the loader is a huge selling point, even if you only use the loader a few times a year it'll pay for itself pretty quickly.

[@JeremyTVOK]

@@wildbill23c I totally agree!

[@wildbill23c]

Kubota BX2680 + loader = very expensive wheelbarrow HAHA!!! So many things out there you can do with a loader that many people don't think about....so very true. I've never owned or used a tractor, so...I'm sure I'd find so many uses for one if I ever get one.

[@jamesb2291]

I wish I'd purchased more implements when I initially purchased my tractor. I've bought a few since, but the thousands spent would've hardly been noticed if financed upfront. Plan ahead folks

[@havoc_64]

Man I wish you guys were here in Kansas...lol

[@jimmyhorton1504]

Great information! I didn't get 3rd function installed on my new LX2610 because I got several other implements bundled in i needed worse. I was wondering if I made a bad decision but feel better about adding it myself next spring. Thanks!

[@wildbill23c]

If you have the money lying around next spring to install other accessories awesome, but many quickly realize down the road they aren't as rich as they thought they were and thus all those later plans of adding this or that never happens due to lack of spare $$$ lying around. Been there done that many times. I get everything I know I need up front now...at least with a vehicle purchase I found that out a long time ago get everything when you are at the dealer.

[@sharktripdan]

You should also mention that availability may not be there in a few years for some of the stuff specific to that model of tractor.

[@navaho5430]

Good advice, Kubota is a top brand cheers from OZ.

[@fhuber7507]

If you know what you are going to need... buying all at once is fine. You will often end up finding you bought something you'll never use... or that you need something you didn't expect to need. You're better off needing and not having than having and not needing, because you can buy it later.

[@wildbill23c]

That's why you need to really sit down and think about what you need and would use. Walk around your property and think of the chores you do or would do and base your implement/attachment needs on that rather than jumping up and blindly buying a bunch of stuff....also, think of some of the things you may only use once or twice a year and could possibly rent or borrow instead of purchasing to have sit around in your way all the time...think about storage solutions too, do you have space to store everything? If not why buy it, its additional clutter you'll be tripping over, kicking, running into, and cussing at every time you do.

[@broncogirl8232]

I love my L4760 Grand and I love “all” of my attachments 😁

[@donbrutcher4501]

I Have a Kubota L6060 TLB. I was/am still a novice. The one regret I have is that my dealer did not enlighten me as to the value of additional hydraulics on the back of my tractor. How I wish I had tip and tilt!

[@DoctorPrepperMD]

I think all Kunitz dealers nationwide needs to send you a percentage! You once made a video about cheap add-ones to make your MX series spiffier for low cost. Can’t find that video anymore. .. Can you point me in the right direction? Arm rests. Buckets Level indicator, etc...

[@Amywazwaz06]

Search on google the name and model number. I watched that video first. I am buying the MX6000. That video has like million views I think. And I sent email asking for the exact things to be added now. My dealer advices me the back hoe attachment may be be a good fit for it. So I am trying to learn that now. Might be mixing it and adding few others I am learning about.

[@AnomadAlaska]

Thank you. That was super helpful.

[@wildbill23c]

Excellent video. Although my purchase has been put off indefinitely now, its still a great video as to what I really need to have installed initially and what I can wait on.

[@bladewiper]

Have you ever used the third function as a remote release/connection for the bucket quick connect ? Like what the skid steer/ track loaders have. I could see it being a great feature on cab model tractors. Thanks.

[@MessicksEquip]

Yes, but it ties up your 3rd function circuit which most people want.

[@Fraggr92]

You can absolutely do it, for example you can have a manually operated diverter valve on your loader that toggles between 3rd function and actuating the locking pins. Of course you'd have to get out and operate this valve when you want to switch between your remotes and your locking pins, meaning that the benefit is negligable if you're switching between a lot of hydraulic implements. But if you have a lot of non-hydraulic implements that you need to switch between regularly then you could just leave the valve in locking-pin-mode and save yourself a lot of time and effort having to jump in and out of the tractor. There are of course 3rd function kits that are designed with multiple outputs specifically made for hydraulic locking pins, effectively giving you two buttons on your loader stick instead of one, but those tend to be a lot more expensive since they are more complex.

[@jaxturner7288]

The sun sets all the way over in Michigan have been red from the fires.

[@jaxturner7288]

Danny Bowen never blood red for 3 days in a row, generally Michigan has very lame pale colored sunsets. I’ve never been out to the west coast but I’ve been all over the rest of the country and Michigan has the least impressive sunsets overall. Lately though, each evening has been worth at least looking at.

[@sbrooks5683]

Hey Neil, didn’t you do a video awhile ago about the pros/cons of 3 pt hitch chipper/spreaders? I can’t find it but am anxious to watch again. Thx.

[@MessicksEquip]

I have not

[@sbrooks5683]

Ok, must’ve been someone else. Thx for the quick reply.

[@CapeFrank57]

Hello Neil, looking for a new tractor with backhoe and mower and box blade with third valve hook up on trailer Question do you ship to Florida

[@MessicksEquip]

Attachments, yes. Tractors no.

[@greensfarmland]

Great Video!

[@pokerstar81]

Wish you guys were closer. Is there any dealers you deal with at all in California

[@carmineciampi5921]

Neil, Can you use a LP BB1266-66 Box Blade on a LX2610? Is it enough machine or better off no bigger than the 60"

[@MessicksEquip]

I have a LP15- series. I'd go bigger

[@M.A.D.Ventures]

Hey Neil, is there any hope of a snow blower that can be mounted both front and rear in the future? I'd like to be able to keep the loader bucket on in winter and mount the blower at the rear on most days. but the rear mount option with a long driveway would be too hard on the neck when a heavy snowfall hits. Would be great if it Kubota could design a mounting bracket so it was interchangeable and could be front mounted for heavy storms, and rear mounted for spot duty the rest of the time! Love the videos, keep em coming!

[@MessicksEquip]

Depending on the model, you can swap this stuff around in just a few minutes.

[@danielmccrory3532]

Hold on tractors can have heaters and radios

[@alaefarmestatesllc]

And AC

[@slip0n0fall]

Can a B or LX series be ordered with BH subframe (only)? That way in the future the BH can be purchased + simply pinned on?

[@MessicksEquip]

Any dealer could put it on during the setup process.

[@brandoncaldwell95]

I didn’t opt for the self leveling loader and the front auxiliary hydraulic valves on my loader. Could have also chose the 3rd hydraulic valve on the rear too, but no. My modern ag 12ft viper batwing only requires 1 hydraulic but i did spli nit to have the wings separated from the height.

[@mattb4386]

Looks like I’ll be traveling to PA for a tractor

[@rkgabel63]

Neil ... buying an L2501 ... is there any labor cost saved buying an enclosed cab initially?

[@pilotmatt293]

Foo Manchu yes. Labor costs for field installed attachments are more than labor costs from the factory, as the factory doesn’t have to charge for any preparation labor, as it will be part of the build process.

[@MessicksEquip]

the factory does not install cabs on this series tractor. Everything on a cab is from the platform up, so there is little savings doing it all in one shot (except the financing, trucking, etc)

[@BG-vq9fd]

Good recommendations. About what I have done twice.

[@Jasonrcsd]

Great video & advice! Makes sense to roll some of those accessories into the tractor purchase. Is it typical for Kubota to offer 0% financing?

[@MessicksEquip]

Yes, they have for years

[@wildbill23c]

Yes, but you most likely don't qualify for it, unless you have extremely good credit and could pay cash for it up front, you don't qualify. Their loan policy is quite strict.

[@daveknowshow]

solid information!!!

[@jenniferfoster787]

To install a 3rd function (for a grappler useage), on a brand new BX 2380, or BX 2680.... only takes 90 minutes? Other than the actual cost for the accessory equipment... why would a dealer suggest 6 to 7 hours (another $1,000.00?) worth of shop work?

[@MessicksEquip]

...? because they are really slow?

[@jenniferfoster787]

​@@MessicksEquip I made a mistake.... I just went back to look at the paperwork... the total cost for the 3rd function / install would be $1000.00.

[@wildbill23c]

@@jenniferfoster787 Yep its expensive to add that function, at time of purchase or later. Its cheaper at time of purchase since they're assembling the tractor at that time or otherwise setting it up for you...but later on its an additional cost because of the additional regular shop labor rate. Either way its expensive for no more than what it actually is and does. Just like the rest of these toys, they're expensive because they're made to make your job easier and the manufacturer's know it otherwise they wouldn't be selling them like crazy....wow my dealer hasn't had a single BX tractor on their lot in over a year now....so glad I am not in desperate need of one. Yeah I could borrow a tractor if I needed to but, I don't like using other people's equipment.

[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

I get a Deere commercial every time I watch a Messicks video. Correction, ONLY when I watch a Messicks video.

[@MessicksEquip]

if you see it, click it and send me the URL it takes you to so I can block it.

[@FishFind3000]

Messick's Equipment you don’t like Deere?

[@Julian-do7bv]

@@MessicksEquip maybe he's being told by a outside force to buy a deere haha

[@Jasonrcsd]

I wonder if it's like Amazon and you get charged a certain amount with each click. If so Neil will probably click the heck out of it but not buy. lol

[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

@@MessicksEquip I did and posted it in reply to another one of your vids. Also, solved the spamming issue by submitting to the KZbin's blackmail Premium subscription.

[@oldcountryman2795]

1. Buy later. 2. Don’t finance. Wait until you save the money or buy used and use the saved interest to buy attachments.

[@wildbill23c]

Buy later....yep, 30+ years later and I still don't own a tractor. Probably never will at this point...fun to dream about what all you could do with one and all the time and work you'd save.

[@tarheelron68]

Need a b2320 review

[@MessicksEquip]

I have, look back

[@chascuda1]

I'm trying to buy a b2601 with a trade in for my 2019 bx23s with 90.2 hrs on it but don Flory don't e=mail you back

[@MessicksEquip]

Don had had some days out of the office sick. Call 8002223373

[@zachm8765]

It takes like 2 minutes to cut down a PTO shaft with a hacksaw....

[@roflstomps324]

Did one just this summer with a grinder and a hacksaw to finish. It took five minutes. You sure you weren't cutting cheese?

[@zachm8765]

@@roflstomps324 💪

[@bobheisserer9046]

Angle grinder?

[@mumenrider862]

Man I wish I had the need for an L or bigger. :)

[@sloppyjoe6243]

Once again, not a video to show your wife. Tell her you need all those accessories up front!

[@Amywazwaz06]

For me, it is the opposite. I will be coming home (or actually getting it delivered, hehehe ) with new tractor and all the accessories and my husband has not a clue! Lol.

[@trentelswick7673]

If you’re buying the tractor for personal use- NEVER finance. You want the bank to owe you money, not you owing the bank money. If it’s for a business go for the financing. If the business goes under you’re better protected financially. Especially if you have an LLC set up with silent partners and shadow owners or the business as a subsidiary of another business you own. That way you can keep the tractor even if the business goes under and then use it for personal use. Get creative! Remember that personal financing of consumer goods leads to the national debt. Consumer debt is killing this nation.

[@racoming1035]

Mine was 0% financing. I can keep my money put it to work for me now. To me a no brainer.

[@MessicksEquip]

Most of the time the cash discount is so minimal that you'll end up ahead taking the 0% and making some interest on the cash elsewhere. Not a fan of unnecessary loans myself, but purely on a cost basis your actually not always ahead paying cash.

[@trentelswick7673]

When one finances that person never comes out ahead. Banks need to make money and operate as a business-hence folks paying interest. Billionaires say that credit is for poor people for a good reason. That is why ultra high net worth folks have virtually NO personal credit history. Try to make it so that the bank makes you money and OWES you money. -Open a CD! Have money earning money. Use their modus operandi.

[@MessicksEquip]

That's what I am suggesting. Take money from the bank of Kubota and invest it in another bank at a higher rate of return. When cash discounts are zero to a few hundred bucks like they are now, this makes good fiscal sense

[@trentelswick7673]

About 20 years ago to very wealthy surgeons in the state of Connecticut won 100 million $ in a lottery. These two guys had net worth of about $20 million a piece from their work and from family inheritances. What they did before they claimed the lottery money was form a corporation with shadow owners and DBA’s. When the corporation they formed went to claim the money they didn’t have to really pay the lottery tax because their corporation got the corporate tax break. I do not know the fine nuances and particulars of how they avoided not paying the lottery money chunk that usually comes off of a winning. I’ve noticed however that people with money are very good with money and know how to put it to good use. More importantly- they know how to hide it while making more money.

[@elsmitro]

👋

[@dallasdavis3246]

if a person cant work on a tractor and do simple maintainence then they probably shouldnt own a tractor

[@wildbill23c]

Same goes for cars.

[@Amywazwaz06]

I wish I had someone to teach me. I absolutely wish I had the knowledge. I will be trying to learn for sure. Did not grow up a farmer. Wish I had. Would of loved it. Never too late! I am 47 and jumping in buying my mx6000 now.

[@Amywazwaz06]

Do you actually live in Dallas? (That is where I am )