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[@brianbeatty7381]

Mine being delivered tomorrow 12-13-2021. Ordered on 9-17-2021. Three months is better than not at all in todays world.

[@pkope6849]

Good morning , your efforts and knowledge are appreciated . Your channel is SO MUCH better than the TV . No negativity or stress. 👍

[@Graffenwehr]

This is the tractor I'm looking at now...and your review was very helpful - as are all your other videos - so thanks!

[@MattNiessen]

I run a Kubota B2650 cab tractor and she exhibits the same whine. My solution is sponge earplugs. You can still hear the radio just fine and it kills about 90% of the whining noise. Like you, I chose the 26 hp engine over the 33 horse. My main motivation was to avoid the diesel regeneration system. They are expensive, and really concerned me from a future maintenance standpoint. For my property, smaller engine still works just fine, plus on longer jobs I’m using a lot less diesel I’m sure.

[@ryanlaughlin8529]

Great review...going from a B2601 to a B2650....I have the EXACT same “gripes” between the two models. The first thing I noticed with your first LX video was the louder HST whine. I felt the same way when I unloaded my B2650 off the trailer when bringing it home. I am also miffed with the jerky forward/rear engagement of the HST on mine compared to the 2601. I only have 20ish hours on the 2650 and sold the 2601 with a little over 100 hrs. I am hoping things free up in the next 50 hrs or so. I thought that maybe they used regular UDT instead of super UDT? I’d be interested to see if/when you change your hyd. Fluid, if the whine/engagement issues get better. That is an expensive experiment, though...Super UDT isn’t cheap and it needs a lot of it! Thanks again for the videos, they are always enjoyable! Cheers from PA!

[@everettyost8639]

Just got my LX2610 cab model a few months ago. Transmission is jumpy at idle but is smooth with more rpm. The whine is always there but is much louder in reverse. Love the cab as I can bush hog on 90+ degree days in comfort. The A/C works great and it hasn’t been cold enough to need heat yet. Thanks for a good review.

[@rollamillspaugh4244]

Very good video

[@michaelforzani8261]

I’m taking delivery of my tractor next Friday. Your vids helped me decide! One thing I learned from running heavy equipment for a while was hearing protection is so important. If that much sound is getting into the cab I’ll be having mine in for sure. It’s not what you hear that can affect your hearing, it the sounds you don’t hear.

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning and congratulations Michael! you must be excited. Yes, I always wear it. I was using regular muffs for a while but now I primarily use in-ear protection - ISOTunes 2.0. Much more comfortable, especially in the summer and hey, I can listen to the news , music etc too. Enjoy your new tractor tomorrow!

[@georgemessner3171]

Thank you again for a great video sharing your review of your tractor. I own a B2650 Cab model, much the same as your LX2601. I commented a while back and asked about the whine in the cab, you didn't comment about that, and I figured you would have an opinion later. You did. My dealer says the whine is "normal", I do not agree with that. I have lined the bottom of my cab (removed and reinstalled the seat for the job) with "dynamat" sound deadener / absorbent material, and put black vinyl over the dynamat. It made NO difference. If you may be considering trying that, I suggest you don't waste your and effort. I have researched the "whine" and have heard of it getting less over time, changing the transmission oil has been said to help. I just changed my transmission oil and filters, at 236 hours to see if the whine will diminish. I don't have an opinion on that yet as I haven't driven the tractor since I changed the oil and filters. I plan to install a decibel meter app on my phone so I can measure the noise to see if I am improving the situation or not. What I did do, was install a radio and a jack for headphones. That really helps. I use 3M WorkTune headphones. I believe they also work on Bluetooth. I recently watched a video on putting spray insulation foam inside of the ROPS tube to deaden the whine noise. When I worked, I'm retired now, I was in the heavy truck heavy equipment maintenance industry. I do think there is credence to the thought of the spray foam inside the ROPS tube, or any hollow cab tube. I know from my work experience that most of the time, this type of noise often if not always magnifies through cab mounts and especially through hollow tubing. I apologize for the essay here, but again thank you for your review, and I will be working on the cab noise as I am sure you and a bunch of your subscribers will also. God bless, and Merry Christmas to you and your family.

[@JeepinMaxx]

Great informative review! One more good reason to stay with the 25HP engine is I believe 26HP is the cut off HP before needing Tier 4 emissions equipment

[@michaelforzani8261]

25 hp is the cut off. Kubota specs this at 24.8hp.

[@6milesup]

That is correct. Above 26hp then you need to have DEF which is a pain. Just one more thing to go wrong.

[@brianw612]

@@6milesup That's why the 2610 does not have a hood scoop, the 3310 does.

[@simd510]

@@6milesup they don't use def but dpf

[@Sidewinderguy]

That noise would drive me crazy. I have the L4060 and it’s so quiet. Like you said I’m sure you get used to it. Kubota is the way to go. Great tractors.

[@davem4193]

That noise was part of the reason I went with a gear drive L2501, that noise would drive me crazy too.

[@bionetworks1]

I went from, a b2650 cab to a L4060, this was apart of the reason besides not enough weight and lack of HORSE POWER. The hydro whine was very loud in the B series with cabs.

[@TEC_Stuff]

Nice looking machine. Too bad about that annoying hydraulic "whine," I can hear what you mean. Thank you for your honesty when discussing the tractor. I wish more people would be forthright with such details instead of just "chest thumping" that they have a new piece of equipment. Keep up the fun videos showing projects in progress.

[@hobbithabits2806]

Hi GP Outdoors... I was planning to go see my JD dealer today to get the quoting process started, but after viewing your initial review (and this one on the LX2610) last night decided to add a visit to my local Kubota dealer as well. I must say I was IMPRESSED! You have a beautiful tractor... they had one just like it on the lot and I agree with everything you've stated in your initial review. I was telling the Sales guy about your excellent 4-month review as well and forwarded him the link to this video pointing out the time-stamp where you talk more in depth about the 3 issues. I asked him for that dealership's insight as well once they review this. I'll let you know if they bestow any new wisdom on the problems. For sure a beautiful rig... probably my leading candidate right now (without seeing the official quote). Best regards.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks very much Rick and congratulations on a soon to be tractor. I'd be interested in knowing if the JD's have a similar hydraulic whine. Some folks have said they do - all hydros do to some level I am learning. My transmission is certainly smoother now but I might offer that you should be able to ask to drive the models around on the lot for 15-20 minutes to test drive and hear and feel them. All the tractor companies are suffering from long backlogs and delays now so I understand that getting anything ordered in that is not on the lot is a long wait. ( I waited an extra 3 months to get mine). Good luck and let me know how it turns out Rick!

[@dehavenfamilyfarm]

Very nice job on the review! Kubota does make a good product. I would try and reach out to Neil at Messicks Farm Equipment here in Pennsylvania about the transmission issues. I know you have spoken with your dealer about it, but in the past Messicks has come up with solutions (adjustments) to issues of various things on their own without help from the factory :)

[@schwartzified]

Great video.. I have an lx3310, I have two main complaints whining and the transmission jerk as well. I called my dealer as well.... I also had a rattle in my cab that took me days to figure out, it was the control lever for my rear hydraulic ports. Easy fix with folded over cardboard and duct tape. PHIL

[@DIYMyWay]

Hi Gord! Thanks for the great 4-month review of your LX2610! I agree that the HST whine and lurching transmission would bother me too, but between that finely-appoint cab and it’s greater capabilities it looks like you made a great choice. Thanks for sharing and stay warm!

[@JD-hh9io]

Great video. After years of old junk tractors with no power steering or brakes we bought a new 25 hp L Kubota. What a dream machine. Went with manual trans. I don't like having to keep my foot on a pedel too long. Plus I push snow and some times need right or left brake. Again, great vidoe. Thanks

[@GPOutdoors]

Congratulations on the new tractor JD! That's great - happy you are enjoying it. Thanks for tuning in and enjoy the rest of the week!

[@BiffsEquipment]

I don’t know how I missed this video! Great video I love how you covered just about everything and covered all of the major differences that YOU found as a tractor owner.. this is beer important knowledge for us non B or LX owners to have who are looking at buying one because the dealer certainly isn’t gonna point this stuff out. Iv really been looking at the B2401 a lot lately.. as you know I always wanted to trade my BX in for a B2601 or 2301 but when I recently discovered they kade a gear driven 2401 that really got my blood flowing because I love nothing more than to be in perfect tune with the machine I’m using and tho a gear driven machine certainly isn’t for everyone.. a gear driven tractor has always made me feel one with the tractor and Iv always felt I could work the tractor harder and to much more potential. Some day I’m gonna go to a dealer to test drive one to see if it’s what I really want but if it goes well who knows I may end up with one some day to replace my BX. Hope your doing good buddy!

[@stevehuls9522]

Hi GP, I have 2 John Deere hydro transmission tractors. The first is a 1997 model 955 front wheel assist which is has for lack of better terminology a "mechanical linkage" transmission arrangement and a 2006 cab front wheel assist 3720 e-hydro which is an electronic transmission. The 955 transmission is nice and solid feeling with no surging or jerking of any kind - nice controlled feel through the pedals. The 3720 transmission can be slightly jerky at times, but when using the cruise control feature, its again rock solid and smooth. I've always thought the smoothness was a function of how the computer electronics receives input from the operators response in using the pedals. On a side note, both transmissions are very quiet. Each machine has roughly 600 hours use with fluid changes as prescribed by John Deere. Also, as mentioned previously, using your air conditioner will help minimize glass fogging. Thanks for another Good video

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks for the info Steve. It has improved for sure. Thanks for the great tip on the air conditioning. Have a good weekend!

[@blessedandhappy3921]

I have the exact same tractor and agree 100% with your review. I do have a different radio that works perfectly with no whine or static. I had a Deere 1025r and never had an issue, this Kubota is essentially the same horsepower as that tractor but side-by-side comparison you would think the Kubota is a much larger tractor with larger frame, tires etc..., the cab is well appointed and very airtight. The LX 2610 is a rock solid compact tractor that does all I need and then some and should hold its value. I’m very blessed to have it.

[@tonybrown8574]

Agreed 100%. My b2650 has about 120 hours now. Still whines. Still jumpy. I just wear my head phones. But it sure is nice being warm when plowing the drive👍

[@mickolson8176]

Hi Gord, My LX2610 was delivered yesterday! I have only driven it around the yard, but I do love the cab. Mine also has the whine and the transmission "Jump" like you mentioned. I had an open station L301 and that also had the whine, so I ended up getting a blue tooth headset and that took care of that issue. I'm hoping that, over time, the transmission "Jump" will go away.....We shall see. With the smaller yard we now have, I think this LX2610 will be perfect for my needs. It will be primarily used for mowing, driveway maintenance and snow plowing. I'm waiting on the delivery of my brush hog, rear work lights, third function valve kit and blue tooth radio!

[@GPOutdoors]

Congrats Mick! That's great - you will love having the cab especially in the coming months. So happy for you - will email back shortly. Cheers!

[@lalalalala9649]

my b2620 whined like that so i checked my hydraulic flued it was a little low so i added some and now the whine is much better its there but not as loud

[@miken8336]

My MX5200 hydrostatic has a wine too, you get use to it for the cinvience. Noise protection in the form of 3M Bluetooth while your music is playing makes the wine and the day go away. Thanks for the LX review.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks for the info on the MX, Mike. I did not know that. Cheers and all the best!

[@richardbaker6194]

Great video as usual. I have a B3200 open station and I know you feel about the whine of the HST. When spring arrives take your doors and back window off and give an inside/outside video comparison.😎🇺🇸

[@joedemarchi4020]

great review im dealing on one now and thought about the 3310 thanks to you i will save the cash!!

[@chesbaycruiser]

Good stuff! Took delivery of my LX2610 ROPS yesterday...only 1.7 hours so far. Will let you know how things compare down here as I get busy along the Chesapeake Bay in Virginia, USA! Cheers!!!

[@frankanddanasnyder3272]

Just FYI, the noise from the transmission exceeds 85 dB most of the time. This is the OSHA threshold where hearing protection is needed. You need to wear ear protection....I like the quick response of the transmission vs the sluggy older transmissions..

[@danielantman8391]

Great review. I have a 20year old John Deere 4300 and the HST whines as well. It’s seems to be the nature of the beast. You are very well spoken. Enjoy your channel tremendously.

[@RAPTORB26]

Spray foam inside the rops/cab posts will help reduce the whine seems to be the common answer I have found from others online. It appears the wine is a common sound with the hydrostatic transmission and the sound seems to resonate louder though the hollow tubes and posts of frames and rops/cab posts. I know its really loud with b26 tlb with the 4 post rops/fops I'm thinking I'm gonna try putting some spray foam inside the posts when I get a chance also.

[@jrsmyth9761]

Change your trans/hyd fluid. I know the manual says only filters on the 50 hour service, but I had read and watched people suggest changing the fluid at the initial service. I did and it did make a difference with the whine. I will also wear headphone/hearing protection. This gets me tunes, if I want, and cuts out the remainder of the noise. You did it on your open station, do it on this one, too.

[@jh9855]

Yes to hearing protection! I have the B2650 cab, and still wear my ear plugs plus a noise cancelling headset and listen to music while in the tractor. After 46 year of flying airplanes, from Jetstream 3100s, Pitts S2A, Cessna's etc, I still have my hearing.

[@Saul2PaulCatholic]

Just subscribed. I was fully committed to buying a L2501 until I saw some of the features on the LX2601. Looking forward to seeing more videos about the LX.

[@pmihalko]

One way to get rid of that transmission noise is to crank that radio up a notch or two. 😂😂 On a serious note that noise is common on many of the sub compact tractors. The Kubota's enclosed cab is so smooth (basically a glass box), coupled with no way for the sound to be absorbed it's bound to hear all that noise. I have taken larger cab tractors for a ride and they're much quieter. I use "Fluid Film" on the pedal pivot points, the ones that are not greaseable. That helps with smoother pedal operations. As always, l love your videos, love the comments from others.

[@yvesjolicoeur747]

Thanks for this honest review. Refreshing to hear your reasoning behind your decision to stay with 26HP.... it is a change from the old ''get as much HP as you can afford'' that we read all the time

[@GPOutdoors]

Cheers Yves!

[@jeffpeters882]

Good review. I have a 2018 2601 enclosed cab and it has the same loud whine. Loud enough that I now wear ear protection if I'm operating it under heavy load. Overall I really like it and haven't needed more power.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good stuff Jeff. If I may ask, I assume that must be an aftermarket cab you added to it? Curtis perhaps?

[@maxnichols9953]

Great review. Just purchased a 2610 and the hydro whine was very noticeable compared to others I have run. Thanks!

[@MrTks1959]

I had to laugh when you mentioned the noise becoming less noticeable. Because I've lost a lot of my hearing; I always wear hearing protection when I'm using my tractors. I keep a set of hearing protectors in the cab, and I have a bluetooth headset when I want to listen to music or I need to hear incoming calls. Even my hearing aids have bluetooth. Happy Holidays!

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks TK! I just ordered a set of noise cancelling headphones. I'll see how they do, soon. Cheers and all the best!

[@g.gauthier9987]

Spot on Gord! I even said jumpy before you did and I had to laugh. Whine is a little too much. Two months with 19 hrs on my lx2610 and I love the machine!

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL! Thanks 906! Me too - overall I am very happy. Have a good one!

[@aaronwalton6322]

This was very helpful, thanks for taking the time to produce it.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks Aaron!

[@downtime3447]

I appreciate this video. I currently have a b2601 and I believe I will keep it. The lunging and whine would drive me nuts.

[@GrampiesWorkshop]

How's she goin'? Great review GP. Very open and honest I'd say. I have to say, I was hearing the whine from your tractor in your videos and was wondering about that. It maybe a 'break in' issue. It's good that you spoke to the dealer about it though as now he's aware. When I was young I had a car that had a bad noise coming from the rear end. I used to turn up the volume on the radio!!! LOL Maybe you could do that since you have the radio in the cab!!! Just sayin'... LOL Seriously though, that's a nice machine you have and like you say, very well matched to your needs. Thanks for the review and take care!!

[@claudecayer7670]

Looking forward on buying one LX2610,,, getting to cold out there without a cabin.. especially at my age 71…

[@L4060BGB]

Greetings from eastern Ontario. Another great video. My only regret on my L4060 is that it doesn't have a cab. Thought about it but a cab model wouldn't fit in the garage. I think over time you will not notice the hydro whine kinda like living near a train level-crossing. After awhile .....what train. Another point in favour of the LX2610 is no DPF regen. Although after three years and 450 hrs its an automatic process with no issues. Cheers.

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning L! Good point - I used to live across the road from a fire station. I know what you mean. LOL! Cheers and all the best!

[@mikedietzler8214]

I wouldn't like the whine either; keep asking because you have spent alot of money on it. Good luck and your videos are very well done.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks very much Mike! All the best!

[@wyattbonnette3414]

My JD 2038R made terrible whining for the first 50 hours or so. I changed the filters and fluid, just as the JD PM schedule suggested and found a small plastic wrapper in the filter (was hoping this was my issue, but nope). Eventually I think I became accustomed to the noise. The sound certainly is unsettling, and you would think engineers would have worked this problem out by now. Thanks for the great videos!

[@mattremer9507]

I really appreciate this video, I have the B2601, about 225hours on it or so. I have really loved it, but have been curious about the LX upgrade.. Mostly for capacities. I actually do not want a cab. So after watching your review I am going to stick with my B2601! Take care, and cheers!

[@PurpleCollarLife]

It's certainly an impressive machine! Thanks for sharing your thoughts after owning and using it a while. Seems like longer than 4 months that you've had it.

[@au2183]

Nice honest review GPC! Seems like that transmission whine is pretty common in the B 2650 as well. Just my opinion, but I think the aluminum transaxle contributes to the resonance of the sound initially, and the cab does definitely amplify it. My open station L2501 does it a little, but nothing like that. I only hear it under heavy load at the start typically, which is no different than most other hydrostatic equipment I’ve used. I’d be tempted to try noise canceling headphones when appropriate. You’d still be able to hear anything major that happened but that whine would be almost gone. Not for working in the woods, especially with others, but for blowing snow it would sure cut the monotony out of it. It’s a beautiful tractor and seems to be just right for your needs, as you said. I bought the 25 hp instead of the bigger ones for the same reasons as you as well as avoiding emissions. I have plenty of power for my needs and I can see you do as well. The extra weight between models makes a huge difference in real world capability.

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning au! Thanks - that's a good idea - I may look into the noise cancelling muffs and see it is helps. Thanks!

[@mattreed9060]

I used Rain-X anti fog on the inside and it eliminates the warmup fog. During warmer weather, I use the AC setting even with heat.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks for sharing that Matt! Enjoy your weekend!

[@richardperry9095]

There should be some adjustment in the responsiveness of the transmission. However none of my tractors have ever had hydrostatic transmissions so I can't say for sure...

[@deanstrickland6993]

GP, really enjoyed your review! I have a B2650 and the whine is the same. It is really loud in my cab as it seems to be in yours. So much so, that I always wear ear protection, which I recommend. Looking forward to more reviews!!!! Stay safe!

[@jimdandy7772]

Seriously considering the LX2610, I have a BX2680, been watching a lot of videos on the LX2610 I really enjoy your videos, to the point no bs, Thank you very informative

[@olddawgdreaming5715]

Great review Gord, looks like you’re doing better all the time getting use to the differences between the new tractor and the one you had just gotten use to. Like children, they can be so different !! You’re doing a great job with the new tractor and by the spring thaw you’ll be operating in like you did your smaller Kubota but you’ll be a lot warmer 😉🤗 . I can’t believe the beautiful weather you’re having. Our son and family in northern Michigan, about 25 miles from the Upper Peninsula, is enjoying the weather but knows they will pay for it later too.🤣. Be safe and hope anyone whose traveling this month will be safe. Fred.👍👍👍👍👍👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Ben-dl3fi]

Any comments in the performance and handling with the snowblower attachment?

[@GPOutdoors]

Good day. Great snowblower - Been several years now without an issue. It ingests alot of snow so you need to run in Medium or low range when blowing large amounts of snow, and always good to have something on the back for weight ( the blower weighs around 560 lbs , I believe). Cheers!

[@Ben-dl3fi]

​@GPOutdoors thank you sir ! Love your informative video. I think I might just get the tractor after all 😉

[@arkansasredneck7358]

I couldnt deal with the whine nor the transmission surge.

[@troyroe6021]

Hello, when this guy went to get my first Kioti the feller there tried to convince me that hydrostatic was the bees knees, and couldn’t believe that a really had a strong dislike towards such craziness, shuttle shift was what I ordered and haven’t looked back, also happy for you that cab is the bees knees, my opinion.

[@gusswenson7811]

Good evening GP. Great honest review on your tractor. If you remember I have the B2650 . I love the cab .. The winter is the best. Warm and toasty. I always go and start it and let it run and warm up.. Yes fogging up is a little bit of a nuisance but can live with it. Hahahah I don't have the issue with it lurching. Pretty smooth. But as everyone and you has said about how it has the whining noise.. Yup.. Has done it from the very beginning. Don't remember how many hours on it . Still the same. Over all I like the tractor.. But I also have the Green thing as well.. hahaha Like it just as much. Like I have said I have the best of both worlds. Have a great weekend. Stay safe and always be kind. Oh and stay warm. Hahah Cheers.

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning Gus and Sally! Thanks for the info on your 2650. I have heard the same from others. Hope you are both keeping safe and well. Cheers!

[@ritterjon]

💥 You’ve got a beautiful tractor and piece of property. Those who are having issues with cabs fogging up are probably going from a heated garage to a cold temp. *Keep on tractoring!* 👍

[@deanstrickland6993]

Sorry, Jon, but my B2650 lives outside and it steams up, lol!

[@michaelmactavish1728]

yeah Im looking at perchuseing a $6700 or $8,600 kubota GL7000 7000 watts or GL11000 11,000 watts generator wich takes the same filters wich pretty powerful generator with 10.5hp and 20.6hp units cheaper then the 10,000 watt cat generator wich was rediculas over priced out my budget wich they wanted $36,900

[@ritterjon]

@@deanstrickland6993 Well there goes my theory. 😳 I know there’s a way to recirculate cab air or bring in outside air. Wonder if that would make a difference. My L3940 has that option anyway.

[@deanstrickland6993]

@@ritterjon Hi Jon! When is your next video? Hint, hint😁 I have a switch on the rear ceiling of my cab which does as you suggest. However, that doesn’t work either. I suspect for my situation that where I am surrounded by the vast Atlantic Ocean, with high humidity, even in winter, coupled to oscillations in temperature around freezing, the conditions are just right for excessive condensation on the great mass of glass. My solution is to start my tractor and come back in for a cup of coffee and then go to a warm and cleared cab. Wish there was a remote starter option for diesels, LOL!!!! Stay safe buddy!

[@ritterjon]

@@deanstrickland6993 Well Dean, finding time to make videos right now is the issue. I would imagine the humidity is a big factor. We always have cold dry air here in the winter so I guess I don’t deal with fogging much. The warm cup of coffee method sounds like a good plan. I have seen someone on a Facebook group add a remote starter so it can be done.

[@JOHNSMITH-hi2zr]

I just purchased one of these and the wine is awful I got the r12 tires the biggest one they offered so far I love it

[@TheMatt4840]

I have a 2020 Mahindra Emax 25 HST w/cab. The whine is almost exactly the same. I realize they're different tractors, if I was just listening to this video and did not know what tractor was on it, I would have swore the noise was coming from an Emax25. I do not have that same jumping to the transmission though , I found it to be very smooth. Just some thoughts, great video ,have a good day.. PS. I also have a front-mounted snowblower this will be my first year of using it, hope it goes well.

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL! Thanks Matt. From reading the comments, I am realizing this is common for hydrostatic tractors. You'll love the blower I am sure, and you'll do great with it! Keep it in 4WD, low range, full engine RPMs (full PTO RPM unless your manual says otherwise) and if you hear the engine RPM dropping while you are blowing, it means you are pushing too fast into the snow (loading the blower too much) so just ease off a bit on your speed and slow down. :)) And bring a coffee with you. Cheers!

[@peterkober6758]

G P review great the L X is on my wish list but would be over kill but wold love to operate one God Bless All PaK

[@GPOutdoors]

Have a great weekend Peter!

[@tomashbaugh8891]

Jeez Gordy! I upgraded to the b2601 this year from a bx24 because of you. You said I’d get more capability, and your right, but...... I don’t really like the joystick response of the loader compared to the bx but maybe it will get better with time. I also find it harder to see the leading edge of the bucket. My other 👎 is the light backend, have a hard time lifting much. I should’ve had the back wheels filled with fluid, still might. I did order a heavy hitch with 8 80# suitcase weights and that seems to help. I did appreciate the video you did a while back on the subject. I sure look forward to seeing your next video, keep it going Buddy! Cheers

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning Tom! Yes for sure load the tires - I was great with 500 lbs on the back and loaded tires but she is a light, narrow tractor, no doubt. Guy told me that the joystick will get smoother with time as you work it.

[@snomo5230]

Hey Gord your videos are very informative. I am in the process of looking for a compact tractor for my 40 acre wood lot near Calabogie, ON. I started looking at the sub compacts (BX25) but your videos convince me to look at the B2601 or the LX2610. You save me a lot of leg work researching the implements as well. Your videos are much appreciated.

[@GPOutdoors]

Good evening SM! I am happy if they help a little. You have lots of research ahead of you but wish you all the best! A lot of great options from several brands to choose from these days. Good luck!

[@pto.enterprises]

If you windows are fogging up,push the A/C switch. If that doesn't make sense take a look at your car or truck. When you put the heat on the defrost setting your A/C compressor will be cycling just like it does when you have the temperature control on cold.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks great idea!

[@deanbarr5740]

My J.D 3025e also a 25 h.p. and the biggest reason i went with this was no emissions or DPF which I think most issues have been resolved. Had i went with more h.p. it would've had the DPF and would've needed the required def fluid. I believe your hydraulic squaw is getting lessened by time. Still, its new and you'll have it a long time to come. It'll get better with age. Its a very nice tractor GP and the cab was a great choice.

[@D2500R]

I have a MF 1835M and the forward and reverse is smooth as glass. You can even adjust the sensitivity of it. Which makes it even nicer

[@elijahshackleton5629]

I’ve owned 4 brand new Kabota tractors the noise really doesn’t go away that’s my only turn on that hydraulic transmission

[@BRAVOACTUAL]

If your head unit is bluetooth, and your phone has data, and you have sirius xm, you can put the app on your phone and have suedo sirius when working. Ive done it a few times working in the bush back home in the Huntsville area.

[@scottwiz1136]

After changing hydraulic fluid on my B2410 last year to the latest Supper UDT II.I experienced the surging you described.Took many hours for it to settle down.

[@ironheadbiker]

Greetings from Wisconsin! I still remember thinking this was the perfect tractor for you. I think I'd still go with my L2501 because I've only have 7ft garage doors, and I'll never give up my heated shop or my other 3 car garage for my implements. I've got the same whine from my hydraulics, but I'll say my L2501 is super smooth in operation. The "lack of feel" on implements is so spot on, I see the work it is doing, but am amazed how I don't feel it. I run huge implements and just added 3" wheel spacers, I'm currently making homemade tire chains, which I love how they're turning out. I think the biggest downfall of these compact utility tractors are their narrow rear ends. I couldn't imagine the top heavy feel with a cab. Well I've rambled again. Take care

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning IHB. Thanks for the info - I didn't;t realize the L series also had a whine to it. Guy's old L3400 doesn't;t whine much at all to be honest. Good to know. Be safe and all the best out there!

[@ttss5726]

The static in the radio I had turned out to be the 12v plug in the outlet that was causing it.... changed with a different one and it’s gone FYI I’m in the country and in the mountains and reception is fine mind you I’m so remote cell service doesn’t exist.Took me a bit to figure out what was causing the issue. Test it tho turn on the tractor without anything plugged in if there is no static you’re good plug something in if there is static you found the issue

[@GPOutdoors]

Good day T2S2! Thanks - i will give that a try - Thanks again!

[@patholland8835]

If you click the AC button even on heat it will help dry the air and help with the steaming up inside. It sounded crazy when a friend told me to do it, but it worked. Maybe try it and see

[@mburke1211]

Nicely edited and presented review. Very helpful. The whine and transmission surge definitely gives me pause, when comparing John Deere and Kubota tractors. It sure seems like the treadle pedal could be adjusted to mitigate the surge. It’s also not great to hear your dealer tell you that “oh, that’s normal behavior “, after you spent such a significant sum with them. I’m mainly looking at Kubota because of the cab availability on the Smaller LX series tractors.

[@yumpinyiminy963]

Just a thought. The interference on the radio may be caused by the spark plugs and / or plug wires. See if the have an "R" on them or rated as such.

[@Gilikemail]

When I went from an open station to a cab, I also noticed the whine a lot more. But I also heard less of the engine, and the cab has a radio I can crank up to not hear the whine at all

[@blakesinclair6331]

I agree about the transmission breaking in on my LX2610SUHSD is slowly improving

[@chdinct6792]

Test drove a B2650 cab when they first came out and I couldn’t believe how loud the hydro wine was. Decided right then and there not to get a cabbed Bx50. Pretty sure it’s the cab enclosure making it much louder then the open station models. Buy the way, I use to spend a lot or time on TractorByNet and recall a thread where a lot of Kubota owners filled there ROPS with foam or some other sound dreading material and almost all said it cut the wine down significantly. Believe they had to take the ROPS off to do it though.

[@barryparsons8124]

To further the fogging comment a few days ago, always make sure the cab air intake is set on fresh not recirculation. Pretty much all automotive heating systems since the 80's, and maybe before, cycle the A/C compressor when in defrost to dry the air(also keeps compressor from sitting idle for the winter and seizing) and also on newer vehicles cancels the recirculation function to prevent operator from selecting it.

[@thehamms3]

I hope Im working as hard as you are!! I have 22+ acres that turned into woods again and clearing it is challenging.. Ran into mud bees the other day!!!!

[@dwayneloftice2326]

I take delivery of my LX2610 this coming week! Looking forward to it.

[@roncutterjr7051]

Thank you for your input I had my LX 2610 delivered a few days ago

[@GPOutdoors]

Congratulations Ron! How is it going?

[@roncutterjr7051]

@@GPOutdoors Love it so far , I’m waiting for my grapple and my backhoe, I traded my 4200 John Deere with a backhoe and had it for over 20 something years

[@mikekowal4944]

Again...we agree..my b2650 is the same inthe whine department...a freind said to check the transmission lines to see if there is any vibration..he had a sprayer make similar noise and insulated the lines..made a difference...summer time job... windchill-50 Monday...never thought I'd say ..hate whine(wine)😁

[@jm0752]

Hi, just want to give you a heads up about the problem I just found on my LX2610 (80 hours). Just a note to LX2610 owners..when I installed my snowblower subframe I noticed under the cab floor directly under the brake pedal, 2 plastics casings (I think there is wiring in them) had been chaffed by the brake pedal mechanism rubbing them every time the brake pedal was engaged. The 2 casings are located on each side of this joint and mine are almost chaffed completely through the casings. I only have 80 hours on my tractor. A very poorly laid out route for these casings. I hope mine is the only one made like this but just in case it isn't, probably should check yours. I have a photo of it but don't know how to add it. Have a good one!

[@GPOutdoors]

Hey JM. Thanks for the great tip I will take a look at mine tomorrow and let you know what I find. Thanks so much!

[@eddygoodwin7089]

Wondering where the hydraulic pump is and if you could add sound deadening material somewhere to quiet it down

[@billlyttle8224]

Great Job with the Rear blade and the blower Gord. Make me want to go out and buy some new equipment. Happy New Year?

[@markmccoy1304]

Good video. I know HST is the way to go now but I still prefer a gear drive. Just old school.

[@georgeapgar5718]

Your dislikes are big things. I was thinking of buying an LX3310, but I will breakout my JD2720 from winter storage to see how it whines and how smoothly it’s HST operates before giving the Kubota any more consideration. Thank you for your well done, informative and enjoyable videos.

[@GPOutdoors]

They are for sure, George. I am happy it was helpful to you. Good luck and thanks for watching. Cheers!

[@ttss5726]

i bought the lx2610 cab last August. that whine was driving me nuts but i always found out it was a bit to small for my needs. I went up to the grand l4060 limited edition memorial day. LET ME TELL YOU the extra power in all aspects is great. its bigger which ill be home i like it doesn't feel like the lx2610 which reminds me of a telephone booth on wheels. BEST OF ALL the cabin of the grand l is silent i can actually here my thought with out the whine sounds

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning T2S2! That's great congrats. Really happy to hear about the cab being silent. I wish this one was. :)) Enjoy the new tractor and thanks for sharing your experience and info. Cheers!

[@danielniquette5187]

Kubota made the Grand L 40 series from 2017 to 2013. I have a 2008 L3540 HST ROPS that have the HST Plus transmission. This thing is quiet. The engine easily bury the hydro noise. It puzzles me that they can’t make a hydrostatic system that is quitter these days since they did it in much older models. About the transmission. I know that the Grand L series is much more expensive than the LX (would you believe that in 2008 I paid mine, with the front end loader, 24K$ (CAN) including taxes!) but the HST Plus transmission is a dream to operate. You can adjust the sensitivity to respond faster or slower on the pedal. It has Stall Guard that prevent engine to stall under overwhelming load. Auto throttle that controls the engine RPM with the hydro pedal. Hi and Low on the hydro that you can control manually or automatically by the transmission. I’m very happy with this tractor and I can’t really find any major flaw to it if it’s that the orange paint tends to become pink over time ;) If you can find one used at a good price, I definitely recommend it.

[@bigbigby4657]

Have you checked the decibel level inside the cab to see if hearing protection should be worn? I never said so but it is coming through on vids as pretty loud. I know you liked wearing hearing protection a lot with the smaller BX but not seen you much in the new one.... I very much like the shuttle shift, straight gear tranny on my Kubota L2900... A lot better setting the rpm, selecting the gear, and dropping the clutch and having a nice start to stop smooth pull/push when working with implements, especially the 2 bottom plow turning the garden soil or disking it. Allows me to concentrate more on my implement and not working on controlling speed & smoothness. 👍

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning BB! LOL. I have my ear muffs behind the seat now. :)) I have never used a shuttle shift before but I have seen others on YT say it is a great option to have. Keep smiling!

[@johnpeters8929]

Good morning I’ve got the LX3310 CAB. Like you love it but the WINE !!! Dealer said cab makes it worse. I guess ear protection is the only way to solve the problem. Thanks for the videos great job. Glad I’m not alone in this endeavor.

[@GPOutdoors]

LOL! Thanks John. Me too. a few folks suggested noise cancelling ear protection - I may give that a whirl and see if it works well. Cheers!

[@djbbenn]

I must say, I do like how my B2401 has no hst whine being a manual. All you get is gear noise at higher speeds in high range, which is not nearly as loud as what that sounds in the video.

[@aspitofmud6257]

Thank you for the honest review

[@liamsherwood7507]

Another great video. I wish my Kubota dealer explained the whole horsepower deal with me before I bought my B2601. Thanks GP.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks Liam! Cheers!

[@thatguyc5899]

I am curious if you could add some dynamat sound deadening under the floor and seat to take the edge off of the whine. It is simple self adhesive mats of this black rubbery stuff.

[@busman1630]

Regarding the Hydro whine. Not sure when your tractor is due for transmission filter and fluid change. I found with both my Deere 1025R's, that after the initial filter and fluid change the whine quietened down a whole bunch. BTW, I did not wait till recommended hours to change them out, I did it early and it helped immensely. With each fluid/filter change it seems to have improved. You might try that.

[@briannelson4493]

Gord my B2650 does this same thing wines , lurches, quite noisy and I have found that the pro selector lever is very hard to move

[@GPOutdoors]

Morning Brian. I am finding that the transmission is getting noticeable smoother now (about 80 hours on it) and I noticed now in other videos that the cab L and cab M series also have that background whine. I have a feeling it is the acoustics caused by the glass enclosure. Many folks have left comments saying it is a common thing with hydrostatic models and the cab amplifies it. I wish it wasn't there of course, but I am getting used to it. Cheers Brian!

[@Lunch_Peak]

A pair of BOSE Noise Canceling headphones would solve the wine problem. Just don and doff them each time you get in and out.

[@LouisianaTractorworks]

The hydro whine is one of the reasons I went with the shuttle shift on the big tractor. I would love to have that A/C & heat in a cab! lol There is no perfect tractor but there is thing that you just can't deal with on one. Have a good weekend my friend! See ya in the next one!

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks LA! Hey, how do you like that Shuttle Shift? Can you perhaps do a video on how it works differently than on your other tractor. Does that mean it is not a hydrostatic transmission? Thanks pal!

[@LouisianaTractorworks]

@@GPOutdoors I will work on that. A shuttle shift is a geared transmission but instead of shifting gears every time you go back and forth you have one lever that puts the transmission into forward or reverse. You stay in the same rang and gear. So my tractor has 4 gears and 3 ranges for a total of 12 gears in forward or reverse. Now you have to clutch it to go from forward to reverse and vice versa or to change gears/ range. There is some tractors that have what is called a power shuttle shift. You can go from forward to reverse with out clutching it, but that's usually on bigger tractors.

[@GPOutdoors]

Thanks LA! It would be helpful perhaps for me and other new tractor folks to get a video on it - when you eventually have the time - no rush my friend. Thanks - be safe and be well!

[@fundsfordad]

Nice video, I’m looking at the new LX 4020 HDTC , they have new design quiet transmission, I like that Kubota has the rear defroster , and mid mount mower ability, and of course the orange is awesome !

[@ranger6x660]

Great review! I’m looking at purchasing my first tractor this coming Spring. I’ve driven them for years just never had one of my own. One of my biggest challenges is finding a shuttle shift in a compact tractor. I don’t like the wine from a hydrostatic transmission. Merry Christmas to you and your family Sir!

[@GPOutdoors]

That's great - Good luck with the search, 6x6! Merry Christmas to you and yours too!

[@SA-xf1eb]

Did you have any luck find one?

[@ranger6x660]

@@SA-xf1eb yes I did. I bought a 2020 JD 3033R power reverser with the 320R loader and love it.