X-Men '97: Why I've Lost All Interest in the Upcoming Animated Series

[@8-BitEric]

Yeah I see red flags here

[@gametalk8390]

I hear you eric. The thing is that comics always used political satire & social commentary as a way to get a message across. The cartoons tried to steer away a bit because fear of complaints & the fact the series ran on FOX which is a republican semi conservative channel. I say semi because after all they did ran shows like married with children & to this day have shows like family guy. In recent times , marvel has tried so desperate to give shock value to their comics & they have made gay super heroes but also made some we grew up with turn from straight to gay. One example is ice-man. What I think will occur is they'll copy the comics & add the gay characters or have iceman come out the closet.

[@getcraig55]

This really piss me off, who cares about anyone sexuality is these days nobody. When u start implement sexuality into video games movies tv shows that’s where I have a problem I don’t wanna gay rainbows 🌈 and Unicorns 🦄 everywhere I go and watch. So the X-men gonna be Mutants & Gay Damn that sounds really f up.. Disney and Marvel is they own downfall with all this woke culture bullsh*t they wanna betray this gay isn’t here for it..

[@BaptistJoshua]

Go woke go broke. If they try to add this to the show...🗑.

[@BaptistJoshua]

Wolverine will probably be gay. 😂😂😂🤢🤮

[@solblackguy]

​@@BaptistJoshua You mean go broke like The Marvel's that outsold Spider-Man No Way Home? Or Bud Light that's making record sales this year? Or maybe you mean Target who's bringing mack trans friendly swimsuits this June? Where's the broke?

[@THEMAX00000]

“If it was made for children, what does somebody being a gay black men have to do with anything here?” Right on the money bro!!! The second this was announced they knew it was going to be an absolute woke dumpster fire. This has nothing to do with X-Men the animated series, absolutely nothing!

[@NE0N-PiXEL]

lol u missed the point, go cry 🤭

[@michealmahmoud6391]

To get mad about a man who’s using his experience to inform X-Men, which even 97 cartoon was highly political, is really telling. X-Men was a movie that always served as a real world allegory for race/bias against real world minorities. To forget that men who were lgbt or black face real world racism and bias and have a love for the 97 show and combining this. At first I didn’t want this show because of shows like Evolution or W&TXM or even a new take of the X-Men universe getting ignored but this ironically made me more excited to see 97 and want to see it succeed.

[@8-BitEric]

no, no one is mad. i have the right to an opinion and to chose to watch something. youre right, the source material was about real world issues, so stick to the source material. director doesnt need to bring his life into it.

[@michealmahmoud6391]

@@8-BitEric Yes the source material includes church persecution, mutants getting lynched for being different, the Legacy virus which mirrored the real life AIDs scandal, Iceman who during Scott Lobdell run was hinted at being gay (not to mention X2 where Bobby came out as a mutant to his parents), Northstar coming out as a gay mutant. Why a black gay man couldn’t see how using his own experiences could help with the storytelling of the X-Men run he’s handling. /s Writers often use examples or their own personal real life experiences to influence the stories they create , Frank Miller with Daredevil and the Dark Knight Returns, Stan Lee, etc . That argument makes no sense telling someone not to include their personal stories in something.

[@anom5389]

“X-men has always been served as a real world allegory for race/bias against real world minorities” this is the first time I’ve heard about this. Where were these comments in the 90s, 2000s? No just because it’s popular today to be “diverse and gay” in films/tv we gotta cherry pick past IP’s to find meanings of things that were never there before.

[@Thelorecookie]

This aged well ☠️

[@Brakdayton]

Like a vintage bottle of unpasteurised milk. 😂

[@Brakdayton]

Hey, I’m from the future. Watched X-men 97. Loved it. Laughing at you. X-men was always woke.

[@Charlieweddle]

I'll just hope Gambit doesn't get ruined because he's the whole reason I watched the OG

[@211inprogress]

Will it be X-Them....😆 I'm sick of all this BS.

[@8-BitEric]

Jeez

[@dimelo8826]

To everyone getting on the people’s case about not wanting this to be woke and saying “well XMen has always been about social commentary and what’s going on in the real world”. You aren’t understanding the fans backlash. It’s not about not wanting gay input or gay life experiences to be discussed. We know X-men has always been allegories to real life issues and human emotion/interaction/issues…fans just don’t want the political aspect of social commentary and wokeness into the cartoon. Don’t cheapen an iconic series by shoving down people’s throats what they are tired of which is a forced sole agenda and obvious trivial social political issues that will die out soon and hard. The original creators and writers didn’t do that with X-men. They used real life issues as inspiration and implemented subtle nuances or metaphors or similar things that people can relate to or attach the fantasy to real life historic events and issues. No one wants to see characters step out of the original comic issues to start talking about sexual things, gay things or changing sexual preference. If you want to add a character or make an episode where a character is gay or fall in love or reveals their secret or relates to the mutants for being gay and not accepted that’s fine as it’s a social issue and realistic, but don’t shove down the audience throat leftist propaganda and todays boring social politics. Everyone has had enough. If you truly want to respect X-men and it’s legacy than respect the source material and it’s stories and add to the legacy with like minded stories that made people fans to begin with!

[@jwpearce]

X-Men was literally always this way. It was always an allegory for minority discrimination in the 1960s from when Stan Lee originally created the X-Men. I don't understand your rant here, this is a big stretch. As a long time X-Men fan you are looking for red flags that just aren't there.

[@ibrahim7724]

Exactly the X-Men were always based on Civil Rights from black Americans to the gay rights movement Professor X took inspiration from Malcom X Martin Luther King etc etc it was always a “Woke” property

[@SnipingIsFun]

The "allegory" was mutants vs humans. It didn't involve race, sexuality, or gender. And it wasn't pushed over storytelling and character development like a lot of modern day western media.

[@MM-hf6om]

As Lee said. It was meant to be underlying....not beat you over the head. That's all modern writers know how to do

[@ManInBlack634]

Stan Lee didn't create the X-Men as an allegory for racism. He took credit for it after Chris Claremont started writing Magneto as more of a tragic figure and started saying in interviews that he viewed Professor X as MLK and Magneto as Malcolm X.

[@shakeemdiggz2354]

@@SnipingIsFun you NEVER read a comic

[@lopaka76]

X-Men is about equality. His comment was about growing up as a gay black man and knowing he could be excepted.

[@camm8642]

There was a time I would have been excited for this but nowadays....with these modern writers i defintely get the concern.

[@8-BitEric]

Yeah I can’t

[@trevorwilliams3105]

At least we'll always have the OG cartoon which is the best cartoon of all time

[@8-BitEric]

Spider-Man is legit

[@bocanegrageorge]

Xmen, spiderman, and batman we had some amazing animated cartoons.😁😁

[@trevorwilliams3105]

Actually I didn't consider The Simpsons which would have to be number 1

[@flarestriker2005]

@@8-BitEric 90s Spider-Man is my favorite honestly! I remember watching it in 2021 during the summer and finishing it up after one year during the summer(Since I was also watching X-Men and Iron Man).

[@Migdo14]

I think they are going to start with Iceman because I believe he's gay on the comics,but is like you said why do they have to mention and focus on what sex preferences they are.

[@8-BitEric]

Absolutely

[@tonyandcooley8835]

Maybe because it adds some authenticity to the character? Another hurdle he has to jump? Always thought it made sense for Iceman. Dude was always having girl trouble. Not sure what you think is being taken away from us?

[@SpFlash1523]

@@tonyandcooley8835 Peter Parker and Johnny Storm have had girl trouble for years, but they never had specific "sex preferences." Iceman having "sex preferences" doesn't make him anymore compelling or nuance as a character than he has been before.

[@camm8642]

​@Tony and Cooley considering he was still having feelings for polaris🙄 not only that having girl problems means your secretly repressing some homosexual desires🤣 there wld be alot more gay ppl out there

[@dimelo8826]

Well ice man was in love with Polaris until she fell in love with Havok. (Bobby was never with Rogue even in the original stories) Ice man was never gay until the new Marvel wokeness of the new generation had their hand in changing characters like spider man etc.

[@tvirus9369]

The original xmen comics was ment to be an allegory for segregation in the 60s

[@8-BitEric]

That did not include gay

[@tvirus9369]

@8BE yea you have a point do you think this may turn out like the she hulk show?

[@ManInBlack634]

No it wasn't. It wasn't until Chris Claremont that mutants became an allegory for black people. Stan Lee tried to take credit for it, saying that Professor X was MLK and Magneto was Malcolm X. However, Lee's Magneto was nothing but a mustache twirling villain. As for gay characters: Mystique and Destiny were a couple, and he envisioned Storm and Kitty Pride as bi.

[@marlandbell]

It sounds like he would bring a level of authenticity from having experiences of prejudice and apply it to the mutant experience. I think this is getting way over blown

[@andrewvincent7299]

Looking at Marvel/Disney's most recent track record I'd say people have a right to be concerned.

[@mrbrainchild7637]

As long as he doesn't turn straight characters into gay characters I'm fine.

[@8-BitEric]

Yep

[@JenMistress]

97, same year I was born. And hey, I'm a lesbian, maybe I should make a pitch to Marvel. And yeah, I've seen a few episodes of the old cartoon, there was some social commentary in that, but way this article sounds, sounding like it's being turned up to 11. I don't mind social commentary as long as you have a good story to back it up, and this article makes me think they don't. We shall see I guess.

[@ryanbeaty4893]

There! That's what I was trying to say in another comment, but didn't say it as well. The story needs to be priority. Subtlety goes a long way with getting a message across.

[@JoshuaHeald]

X-Men the Animated Series was an awesome show of the 1990s and a personal boyhood favorite. (Only Batman the Animated Series was better!) Disney's X-Men '97 is going to be a catastrophe. Between Star Wars and the MCU, the company's track record speaks for itself; they'll favor politics and representation over action and adventure. The critics will praise it, the fans will criticize it, and Disney will push merchandise that doesn't sell. And it'll be the fault of "toxic man baby bigots" that it fails, and that includes myself. To which I say: *💥 EXCELSIOR! True Believers!💥* See you guys in the comment section! ✌

[@8-BitEric]

It was such a Great show

[@losthylian1769]

Oh god damn if it’s not made for original fans of the series then why make it? Instead of making a new series. & honestly just make the damn cartoon the way the original was made just new plots. I don’t see why people want to put in personal problems all the damn time.

[@jeremyconley6467]

Agreed man. You don’t have to hate people to hate having things shoved in your face. I don’t care about your personal life, I want good and fun content. A simple thing 🤷‍♂️

[@larrysanders6159]

Bang on bro... Bang on. Agree 100%. Damn.

[@8-BitEric]

Thanks

[@kidkilla11alex]

I no longer have Disney+, so this show is already dead to me. The original Xman series is a special part of my childhood, and they aren't ruining that for me

[@dwayneelizondomountaindewh6073]

We all knew this was going to happen.

[@8-BitEric]

Absolutely

[@kwamintaylor4247]

Remember, this is the X-men. You specifically are not supposed to like it. Who do you think the villain was in the stories for the last 30 plus years. Surprise! It’s you silly. You gotta be dense not to pick that up after all these years.

[@seanthomas3091]

The X-Men and mutants have always been metaphors for black people, gay people, trans people, Jewish people. All of the "others". If you thought it was only about people having powers then this show isn't and was never for you. Nor was the original. You don't have to watch, the rest of us will be tuning in lmao

[@daris4289]

Nah it was just metaphors for black people. Had nothing to do with the gays or trans let’s be real.

[@toyboimaniac1661]

@@daris4289you’ve obviously never read an xmen comic.

[@Movienerdnation]

They need to stop putting real life problems in made up and fake worlds. Comics and fantasy and etc are made to escape real world problems for a few mins or hours. While relating to the characters in similar situations to us.

[@8-BitEric]

I agree!

[@tonyandcooley8835]

You know EVERY fantasy world and EVERY fictional story is based on real life issues in some way? Wether it’s something personal in the writer’s life or something that is impacting the world. Everything from cave paintings to Star Wars to the Matrix to Lord of the rings deals with real world stuff in a fantastic way. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be able to relate and the stories would not be enjoyable. What you need to do is simply watch the stuff that YOU can relate to. If you can’t relate to it? Just don’t watch it. Pretty easy. I hate bees. Actually the only thing I’m truly afraid of. Since I was a kid. You won’t catch me dead near a bee hive. I don’t like One Direction. I’m not gonna go to a One Direction concert and then complain about how bad it was. I’m just, like, staying away from bee hives and NOT listening to 1D. Again. Simple. Try it.

[@ryanbeaty4893]

Dude, all "fake worlds" comes from real life problems. That's one of the first things you learn as a writer. Star Wars, Final Fantasy, Superman, Godzilla, Wizard of Oz, etc.... every story is inspired by real-life problems and written to have meaning. Yeah, it's escapism but fantasy and comics have always had morals or reflected real life, just done so in a way that is easier for us to digest. Most things aren't Adam Sandler movies. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with with the attitude of a lot of "woke culture". They do more harm than good to helping end things like racism. But if you think comics and fantasy weren't just copies of real-life problems, then it's probably because you missed it or were choosing not to see it. That includes the X-men.

[@1985hz]

So you don't like the fact that Magneto is a Holocaust survivor?

[@juanrisa945]

In other words, you don't want X-Men to have that X-Men essence.

[@DudleyDawg]

You can just tell they are gonna add a scene where whoever the newly race-swapped gay character will be will tell Professor X to his face that he has dealt with more discrimination than Xavier and the other mutants ever have.

[@mainstreetsaint36]

If the show's a true continuation, Professor X isn't there. But guess details gets in the way of your wokey brokey joking.

[@marlandbell]

I will just say the first run dealt with the holocaust, ethnic cleansing, allegories for AIDS, the homeless and the cast of characters were diverse with women as the characters driving story. Its been on brand

[@andrewvincent7299]

The original series did it with subtlety and nuance....I highly doubt the crew working on this know what being subtle is. Everything is going to be ham-fisted and cringe. Disney just can't help themselves anymore.

[@churchking2527]

The issue isn't the politics, it's the writing. They just ham fist the narrative in there or just throw out some words like "Fascist" because it sounds important. They don't know how to write a meaningful allegory, they only understand how to write memes and trendy tweets, and copy Big Bang Theory when they try to sound smart.

[@magustobias8827]

​@@andrewvincent7299Subtlety? HELL NAW. But well done and executed? Yes. And if the new series screws that up, then absolutely, it should be ripped into. But we should at least consider giving it a chance, y'know? See what they give us, then either condemn or applaud it.

[@Mr_Flerb]

It’s always hilarious when people identify women as “diverse.”

[@marlandbell]

@@Mr_Flerb in comic books in the 80s/90s as LEADING CHARACTERS DRIVING STORY, yes.

[@BSted-lm3mx]

The X-Men and most heroes of Lee's age were created to reflect changing social norms and culture. They were the "other". He is uniquely qualified to helm a show about heroic others. Should the show be a pulpit for his personal morality and values, no. Destiny, Mystique, Northstar, there is already a history there. Not sure where your rancor comes from if I understood correctly you identified as a "bi" man. You are an "other", you have valuable experiences and a voice and it informs your content. Give it a chance, brother.

[@tonyandcooley8835]

You’re definitely jumping the gun. There is nothing here that indicates the writer will make any of the characters gay. The key, and you even realized it while you were recording this video, is that mutants are discriminated against in the Marvel Universe. Wether they were created as an allegory for one or all of the communities that have to deal with discrimination irl, there is no denying that there is that element that connects people in these communities to the characters and Xavier’s dream. That said, the headline and the article says that the writer is drawing on his experience as a gay black man. Can you think of someone better qualified to write a story about a group of superheroes who are feared and hated for no other reason than the fact that they are different? He doesn’t need to make a character gay or black to connect those dots. Doesn’t matter who’s hated or who’s hating, hatred looks and feels the same no matter what. I recommend giving it a chance and judging AFTER you’ve seen the final product. If it’s done right, the experience he draws from could really add weight to the mutant struggle which will resonate with the LGBTQIA+ community, the Black community, the Hispanic community, the Asian community, the White community… and the people that promote hate might actually learn something. Probably not, but maybe? There is this weird war against social Justice and “Wokism”. But if you ain’t woke, what are you? You sleeping? Or you think you’re MORE than awake? Transcendent? 🤷🏽‍♂️ And if you are against social Justice, what is it you’re supporting? These aren’t accusations, though. Just something to think about when you use that terminology. I’d be happy to have a real conversation about this. I want to know more about why this upsets you. I don’t think it’s an anti-gay or racist thing, so what is it, really? Anyway, you’ll influence more people if you approach the situation constructively instead of destructively. Let’s dialogue, man!

[@8-BitEric]

Everyone has every right to be cautious with the gay agenda Hollywood has been pushing. Woke is bad

[@thegamekang]

I see where you’re coming from but from what we’ve seen and the terminology used, I understand why some would be worried. But I get your points

[@codygaisser]

X-Men has always been political, focusing mainly on the experiences of marginalized people. This is right in line with what the book has always been about. Magneto is a holocaust survivor. Mutants are an oppressed minority in the 60s during the civil rights movement. X-Men has had ethnically diverse and implicitly lgbtq characters since the mid-70s and explicitly lgbtq characters since the early 90s. What’s out of line here?

[@Some1Any1No1]

There’s a difference between the material being inherently political and virtue signaling.

[@codygaisser]

@@Some1Any1No1 Didn't the executive producer just say the story is informed by their experiences as a member of marginalized groups?

[@juanrisa945]

Excuse me, didn't X2 potrayed Iceman revealing his powers as a coming out if the closet scene?

[@8-BitEric]

We are talking about the director comparing it to his life: not comic lore

[@juanrisa945]

@@8-BitEric I was talking about the second X-Men movie.

[@mainstreetsaint36]

It clearly was. With the Mom's line echoing what so many other kids have heard from their parents, other family, and even friends, "Have you ever tried not being a mutant?"

[@quinnmorriganroberts69]

I mean... X-Men has ALWAYS been highly political. Xavier, Magneto, Friends of Humanity, Weapon X, Apocalypse. If you can't see the comparisons slapping the issues in your face then that's fine but don't pretend X-Men was never political. It's obvious you enjoyed the old series for its political activism, so why not just give this an impartial shot? I mean, no-one has seen any of it yet 😂

[@krathoon2338]

They got to quit gaying up the entertainment. The whole country is not gay. Knock it off.

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@BoyTrain872]

And wolverine is not a gay person. He’s a mutant that’s all he is

[@awilywolf]

He had a girl, and was like Jubilee's grizzly, awkward, straight de facto father, lol

[@8-BitEric]

Yep

[@ladynikkie]

6:17 😂 oh there would be blood if they did that. We all know he is a ladies man, especially for Jean Grey

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@patrick4662]

I’m watching the OG series now for the first time. I def remember it as a kid but never it watched it through before. Just my humble opinion, but all the things you are complaining about are in the original show. It is chalk full of deep and progressive social justice themes. The comics themselves were an allegory for the civil rights movement with magneto being Malcom x and professor X being Martin Luther king jr.

[@shepardoakenshieldprime3357]

No one will ever agree because its true XD But they wanna pretend that X-Men was never about social justice.

[@patrick4662]

@@shepardoakenshieldprime3357 The whole FOH friends of humanity group is a thinly veiled nazi/facist comparison - they even use the arm band. Then there is the ep where they go back in time to prevent an assassination on professor X and wolverine and storm get harrassed at a restaurant because they are holding hands and are an inter racial couple. Those are just two specific examples, there is also the morlocks, the nightcrawler episodes.... it just goes on and on.

[@wesleypeoples3567]

Thanks for this video Eric! We need more people standing up against these issues.

[@8-BitEric]

No doubt!

[@jeremyconley6467]

100%

[@David_Hypnos]

Let’s just forget that the X-Men have been the most progressive comic book since 1975 with mutants as an allegory for every marginalized and discriminated group. If you’re upset about any of this then you were NEVER A FAN because you don’t know what X-Men is.

[@drewyetti]

Just have to wait and see.

[@8-BitEric]

Absolutely

[@san9350]

Bruh, it's definitely NOT for kids... what kind of kids have watched the original show? This is supposed to be a sequel

[@freddy5night184]

Im not anti LGBTQ either but i feel like it doesnt have to be in EVERY thing we watch….Its like all movie and show creators are scared to leave it out for fear of being “CANCELLED “ smh its so fuckin spineless

[@nikkijennings3778]

Beast is going to have rainbow fur! 😂

[@8-BitEric]

Wow lmao

[@juniorn8279]

Every time somebody ask me about bring back anything from the 80s or 90s its a NO thank you, why don't you know is going get the modern audience adaptation

[@TheSpeedfoever]

Well I'm looking forward to it more now in excited for this! Since I need to catch up on x men still before it comes out!

[@8-BitEric]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@fernandojr7854]

I agree being black and gay doesn’t say anything about your creativity and storytelling

[@griley823]

Damn modern writers are so bad today, it feels like it would be super easy to make a hit show or movie because of how far the bar has been lowered.

[@jdbluestar23]

But those personal experiences are part of our real world so why not see them in the comics. If at least one kid, isolated and feeling alone feels less alone because they see themselves on the show, then isn’t it worth it? I think X-Men has ALWAYS been the diversity hire. Bro stuff, there are dozens of other books for that. Let us go ham here.

[@mystical23]

I was done with marvel a couple of years ago , clearly it's the M-she-u universe now

[@Aureilius2112]

I hate identity politics but you’re blowing this way out of proportion. This guy left and criticized the Witcher series because they didn’t follow the source material. I doubt he is going to ruin X-Men since it’s clear he’s a fan of the actual source material. Who cares where he draws inspiration from as long as he stays true to the characters.

[@8-BitEric]

It’s just opinion

[@rehmsmeyer]

Ya love ta see it.

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@leG1ndERy]

“What does being gay and black have to do with anything?” What does us as white straight men have to do with anything? Yet almost all of entertainment in the last 100 years were based around our experiences. Just say you hate to see different types of members of our society have a chance at telling their story and move on. You credited the producer for being upfront about his intent, why not be upfront about your desires?

[@AnaguraRaziel]

😭😭😭😭😭 X-Men was my childhood, I was really looking forward to this - but that's a huge red flag, the 97 made it sound like it would be a return to form but it's quickly turning into typical 2023 Marvel SJW bullshit. I'll give it a chance, which is more than I give most Marvel shows, but their track record doesn't leave me hopeful. It's making me worry about the upcoming Wolverine game too.

[@egoing74]

X-Fired "97 thanks Kevin Feige.

[@MadGravestoneCutter]

It could be him using his experiences of prejudice to help shape stories and apply in the context of being a mutant in X-Men. The X-Men is in fact an allegory reflective of the civil rights. And it's not uncommon for people who have faced discrimination, bullying and disability to identify with the X-Men and other various characters. Let's just wait and see. The cast have been really praising the scripts.

[@ericcampbell4211]

What happened to the statement saying, "you can't work on the series unless you were a fan of the original?" I'll stick with the original animated series.

[@ryanbeaty4893]

*sigh*. So, first I get it. I'm sick of companies using minorities (Disney is the worst, IMO) as marketing gimmicks instead of just writing good stories that happen to have minorities in it. But X-men was almost always an analogy for prejudice. Yes, they were hated for being mutants, but that was symbolism back before comics talked about heavy issues like racism or homophobia. Later, they did. You can find interviews where Stan Lee said characters were inspired by the civil rights movement of the 60's. With that said, I do not want them changing the gender, sexual orientation or race of characters. I agree. Create new characters. But it seems like you just either denied or never caught that X-men is a comic about social prejudice. Having gay or minority characters alone doesn't make it part of the negative "woke culture." It's how they handle it. Honestly, truth is this guy should have kept his mouth shut and just let the writing speak for itself. Which maybe is your point.

[@shorts26]

Exactly stan lee said he didn't create them for that reason it's just that everyone can relate to feeling left out and that's what their stories were about for being mutants...now if you want to make a character that's gay or whatever do that and make their backstory interesting but they won't do that because they're not talented enough today and they know that it won't sell so they have to piggyback off of known characters and changing them into things they weren't that's the problem they said they're going to do much more in your face stuff than morph in season 2 and the other animated remakes and movies they have on the way

[@magustobias8827]

Bruh, I get it, I don't like "woke" crap either, but... it's X-Men. Social commentary and storytelling frameworks about social conflict is a part of its foundation. That's ALWAYS been the case. Well, aside from the basic Tell Superhero Story with Neat Powers and Characters Designs aspect, but still. Don't get me wrong, when this comes out, if it turns out it actually is "woke" trash, I'll be first to denounce it as such. But yeah, it's PRETTY on brand to have it be informed by real world discrimination felt by people who have faced it, regardless of what (with some obvious exceptions) kind or for what purpose. If it's bad, it's bad. If it's good, it's good. But let's not start the whole "what's this doing in a kids cartoon" when the original run said in all but actual name the Holocaust and Nazis with Magneto's backstory. And then later full-force Nazis in the Captain America episode. (And yes, if the show is trying to cram diversity and inclusivity down your throat moreso than the original series did? Oh yeah, 100% it's hijacking.) But let's not ignore what the original series did and hold different standards for the same thing.

[@8-BitEric]

It should be true to the source material its "ALWAYS" been about. Not th directors personal experiences... thats the point.

[@ticoworld7195]

Dude I'm from the future Morph is gay 😂

[@daris4289]

Nah, I definitely agree. They need to stop!

[@8-BitEric]

💯

[@daimons7261]

Ya I have a bad feeling about how it'll do but I'll give it a chance 1st to see before making any further judgment

[@Jinisinsane]

Im rooting for the sentinels.

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@scottr2314]

please, no gender,race,orientation changes and no SJW agendas

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@Ninten70]

Previously on X-Men 97...

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@ticoworld7195]

Dude I'm from the future Morph is gender fluid 😂

[@braam750]

I was honestly hoping this wouldn't happen... I was really excited now but now 💔 Disney ruined star wars and now they busy with marvel

[@8-BitEric]

Yep

[@krathoon2338]

They keep on wanting to pull a gay and race agenda instead of just making an entertaining show.

[@8-BitEric]

Yep

[@raytello6557]

Mutants went through the same shit as African Americans and LBGT people. What's the big deal?

[@SnipingIsFun]

That it is still fiction and was about mutants vs humans and not gender, sexuality, and race. It also wasn't marketed and forced like modern day western media and didn't overtake storytelling and character development (which given the track record of western media for about a decade is likely).

[@vadergravy]

Well, that makes at least two of us then my friend.

[@collinwilliams1020]

The opposite of woke means you're asleep is that what you are LOL X-Men 97 isn't the problem you are the whole comic book originally was based off of LGB Q stuff so wake up buddy because you going to get left behind just saying

[@8-BitEric]

Lol X-men wasn’t about being gay.

[@collinwilliams1020]

@@8-BitEric yeah you're right it wasn't just about being gay it's about being marginalized either way you slice it it was still about racism and bigotry

[@BoyTrain872]

Marvel needs to throw out all the gayness and go back to the original writing material.

[@8-BitEric]

Yep

[@Zneiero]

It is true. And they want to do 4 more seasons, right? Also, "What If" has been delayed I think 2025? Whatever the case, Marvel need to be firm with what they want to do and stick to it. No wishiwashiness

[@andrevillemaire5561]

I care about the story and not the people

[@chiefmegadeth]

How about they let the stories shine. And not one of the persons personal sexual experiences to promote this crap? How is this crap supposed to hype us up? Just makes me not want to watch it. Because this is the first thing they tell us about the show? Massive red flag? Havent they leaned their lesson yet? I love the original show, and will give this a go regardless. But right now I'm just like stop it please. I tried giving Willow TV show a go. But they Woked it up and it was GOD AWFUL... Cancelled after 1 season.

[@8-BitEric]

Haven’t seen willow yet

[@metalnerd3855]

Queen song Another bites the dust

[@fiercekrypton]

Yikes. So unfortunate. At least I’ll get some good action figures from it… hopefully.

[@8-BitEric]

Yep

[@flavaletterman]

I kinda think your jumping to conclusions my dude

[@SnipingIsFun]

Given most western media for about a decade I would say people have become defensive as to be prepared for it.

[@MM-hf6om]

Lol given their track record? Lol sure

[@8-BitEric]

i dount it since hollywood has been screwing up

[@211inprogress]

X-Gen.

[@ManInBlack634]

I don't have a problem with "wokeness", only "wokeness" done bad (which unfortunately it's been more bad than good). The X-Men have been "woke" since the 70s. Look at the initial cast when Giant Sized X-Men came out. Previously you had Cyclops, Angel, Iceman, Beast, Marvel Girl, Havok, and Polaris. All were white. The group sent to save them were Cyclops, Wolverine (a Canadian), Storm (an African), Nightcrawler (a German), Colossus (a Russian), Banshee (an Irish man), Sunfire (a Japanese man), and Thunderbird (a Native American). A group of people from various ethnicities saved a team of white superheroes. Marvel had a rule against saying that characters were gay back in the late 70s to 80s. To get around that, characters were queer coded. Storm was queer coded into being bi when she cut her hair into the mohawk and befriended Yukio. Rachel Summers with the butch haircut was queer coded. Anyone who read the comics could see that Mystique and Destiny were intended on being a lesbian couple. The Legacy Virus was an allusion to the AIDs epidemic. The X-Men were also full of strong, powerfully written women. One of the best examples is when a depowred Storm defeated Cyclops in combat to become leader. Forget the fact that Madelyn Pryor caused Cyclops to lose by using her powers - that was a later retcon. Chris Claremont, the man responsible for the popularity of the X-Men was a freak. Supposedly, the Hellfire Club was partly based on a fetish club that he frequented.

[@Tylerf962]

Everyone should boycott marvel

[@bretweeks2997]

What?

[@bartoman2]

Can't wait to NOT watch it...

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@billbaggins7355]

We can't just have a movie anymore. Has to have some kind of social or political agenda stapled onto it.

[@mainstreetsaint36]

Pretty much you want a show that is far removed from even the Xmen of the 70s and 80s.

[@Gina_from_VA]

As apart of the queer community (yes I prefer this instead of the alphabet mafia) I kind of agree...Dax ExclamationPoint the drag queen got representation as Shade; a brand new character to the X-men. If they @#$% with Jubilee after all these years of edging us die hard fans by making her a lesbian I will be upset.

[@lloydlandrum3040]

Agreed and given how often Bisexuality is written where the opposite sex is ignored for same sex relationship of the BIsexaul matter rather then show both interests thus in essence making a character gay/lesbian best not do that either

[@dimelo8826]

Agreed, hope they don’t make Jubilee lesbian which would be a retcon since Jubilee have always been fond of men and mention when certain guys were cute

[@PolterGuySteve]

X-Men IS political/social commentary

[@8-BitEric]

Not based on the life of the director

[@PolterGuySteve]

@@8-BitEric based on any disenfranchised group of people and if that is something the director can relate to, how can you argue against that?

[@tixmctivy]

They are wrong it is a show for us the people who grew up with it to watch with our kids. If it was for kids make them their own property stop leeching from our childhood. If they want to make organic gay black whatever stories make new properties like you said 100 percent agree with you. What is wrong with the mutant part people might not be able to do math these days gotta spell everything ffs. I don't wanna say anything to nasty but I'm not bi and I have legit issues with the injection of gay dick into things that are not. North star they want a gay character make him and his sister. I am not a fan of forced anything ruins the property I'm out and I loved that original show. I have many black friends and many gay friends and they don't want it either. You opened that video perfectly lol. Fn marvel is right. What they have done to the comics is fn pathetic. I'm not against either in any medium until it's a character that is not those things. Ascetics matter the way something looks needs to be kept updated I'm out but that's still OK to update as long as the core is still there like you said about April. F this pisses me off lol. At least I'm not alone in my disdain for this.

[@ladynikkie]

I don't care what their personal views are they shouldn't force that on people just to see this show. I just want to see the original X-Men we all grew up and love back in the 90's but knowing this world nowadays, they'll just add some political won'tness in it and if it fails, it's their fault! I just want to see wolverine take out his claws and stick it to em' again and make jubilee less annoying lol

[@8-BitEric]

Yup! Why add personal things

[@retrojoe8434]

Was excited for this and new TMNT. Will never watch either of them unfortunately.

[@abramreyes]

The X-Men has always been woke/political! Are you serious? 😂😂😂

[@camm8642]

Has it....having an underlying messages and being overtly woke and heavy handed are vastly different most modern writers are in the latter camp hence why much of what they do does not last the test of time...

[@ezzz42]

Bolivar Trask for president!

[@BATDAN_92]

X-men 97 no thank you

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@marvelfanatic9535]

Well, Victoria Alonso is gone!!! So hopefully Beau DeMayo will be gone too; along with Charlie Feldman and the Russo Bros!

[@mrg466]

What the hell is wokeness?

[@8-BitEric]

Lmao

[@mrg466]

@@8-BitEric That wasn't a joke! What is it?

[@mainstreetsaint36]

​@Mr G it's a rebranding of the term Politically Correct. When you hear or read opinions and articles and they use 'woke' just translate that in your mind to PC.

[@mrg466]

@@mainstreetsaint36 ... and what's politically correct, or should I even care?

[@Mr_Flerb]

Hmm.

[@nweditor875]

I have lost some faith in this because I know they changed jublie voice actress because of weird political reasons.

[@mainstreetsaint36]

Alyson Court actually made that choice. Not Disney.

[@nweditor875]

@@mainstreetsaint36 Sad really liked her in that role as well.

[@Woobuggy848]

😔😑...

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@Woobuggy848]

Classic Disney...😡

[@ToploadedGaming]

This was my favorite cartoon as a kid and other than South Park, it still is. Hopefully he just means that being discriminated against may have given him some creative topics to focus the story through that lens. However, if it’s just gonna be this character is now gay, this character is now trans, it’s gonna be dumb, not because of representation, but because the focus is more on getting that right, than the story. Just make the story good, don’t care about anything else. And yea, of course I liked Spider-Man and Batman too, but X-Men was my fav, had all the toys.

[@ericm6633]

One word........ Woke

[@8-BitEric]

Lol

[@TheRenegadeCrew]

I’m so disappointed