Meta finally fixed the Quest 3 Wi-Fi stability issue with Build v.62

[@MrTeeF]

Meta Quest 3 Build v.65 has been released, and guess who decided to make a reappearance? The negotiation rate bug is back, baby! It's fluctuating from 2401 Mbps to 1729-1440 Mbps every 4-5 seconds. Now, I know some of you have had problems with versions 63 and 64 too, but now, "finally," I also get to rejoin the club! Hooray 😑... However, it's a lot less noticeable than it was pre v.62. At least we are getting full speed periodically, but the fluctuating speeds will still lead to some random frame drops. This time, though, we have proof of how it's supposed to work, without people blaming us for having "too high expectations." I'm guessing Meta will patch it back up as long as people use the "report a problem" function.

[@Nekto89]

It just stopped working for me randomly today with Archer AX90 | AX6600. And now I can't connect to my Wi-Fi anymore. It doesn't see 5 GHz-2 network at all and can't connect to 5 GHz-1 with correct password. I have no idea what happenned. Tried rebooting everything several times, changing password, etc. All other devices work fine.

[@LunchAndVR]

Welcome back to the club! Was never fixed once on mine :)

[@Nekto89]

fixes my issue with doing factory reset on Meta Quest 3... Works fine now

[@Elrumel]

this is why i have trust issues

[@OverwatchUA]

Fresh new owner here. Eager to report that on v.68 with Nest Wifi 6G I'm getting 2100-1700Mbps and a huge bunch of unacceptable stutter. I can reduce drops by setting bitrate to fixed 10Mbps, but it looks like shit and still noticeably drops frames. Well played, meta, well played

[@ChapC_Creates]

Im happy they fixed it, but I am still annoyed by the way they treated my support tickes, chat and e-mail. They avoided the issue completely, treated me like a dumb child and only resorted to 'try restarting your router' answers and asking me if i want a replacement model. Why is it so hard for companies to be honest, admit to internal struggles and simply involve us. Gosh, customer support can be so annoying.

[@xerowolf4242]

Yep. All they needed to do from the beginning was probably just to tell you "hey, we're very sorry about this. We realize this is a problem and we are working on trying to fix it but it could take some time before a patch comes out in a new update." and that would be a far better response than treating you like a 5 year old and telling you to restart your router which you probably already did long before deciding to call them. lol

[@Darth-Claw-Killflex]

When someone talks to someone else like a child there's generally a reason for it...

[@daniellegraham]

They did the same to me.

[@VincentFischer]

Could be that they didn't know any better themselves (the support guy)

[@OldGuyDrummer]

@@Darth-Claw-Killflex Yeah, it's called being a condescending asshole.

[@freds690069]

It only took 5 months and hundreds of forum posts, but we finally got a fix! My v62 results mirror yours.

[@mikemagruder8444]

HALLELUJAH!! Thank you for these videos and your thread on the forum that drew Meta's attention to this issue.

[@MrTeeF]

My pleasure!

[@raheenb]

Oh good, they fixed it after I spent hundreds on a new routers, TV, and GPU because the wireless experience was so jacked lol. Thanks for all your help with getting this finally fixed!

[@t3chnod3lic]

Same here :(

[@jamiet4201]

Thanks very much for making these videos! I messed around with a Quest 2 and Virtual Desktop around 2020, but wasn't very successful and eventually returned the headset. I've copied your setup with a used Quest 3 and TP-Link AXE5400 router and have been having a blast playing through Half Life: Alyx today.

[@laplopdiddypop]

I got a 4090 but get stutter using oculus link. Gonna try vd as a last ditch effort before I cast my quest 3 into a fire. Seeing this video has given me hope. I'll get a 6e router.

[@LaughingGremlin]

It's good to know that the problem is fixed. I just ordered the same router (on sale). A lot of people in my area are using wifi, so having a 6 GHz frequency will be a godsend.

[@traveller6713]

thanks for documenting the issue for everyone! I had fluctuating connection speeds with v60 and after updating to v62, I've enjoyed a stable 833MHz up/down (which appears to be the max speed with my 802.11ac / 5GHz / 80MHz connection. I recently built a new rig based on a Ryzen 7 7800X3D & RTX 4070 platform, so I wanted to push the limits of my PC and see if the WLAN could keep up. Setting VD to Ultra / 72fps* / 200Mbps / SSW disabled / VDXR / AVI 10-bit, I managed to enjoy several games with the ocasional stutter (network-related latency every time). This was ok for everything except for Beat Saber - even with a stutter only occuring once or twice in a 3min song is enough to mess up the score. *I'm one of those that doesn't need 144Hz+ refresh rate and have been quite happy with anything above 60Hz ... ymmv 😉 Thus I will look into upgrading my WLAN - either via a WiFI 6 Extender (€) or going with a "modest" 6/ 6E Router (€€). Regarding a router; There appears to be two paths to follow; either sticking to 5GHz (4x4 160MHz for 4804Mbps - example, "Archer AX72 Pro") or splitting it up between 5 & 6GHz (2x2 160MHz for 2402Mbps in each band - example, your Archer AXE75). I'm not certain if 4804Mbps will ever be needed (not to mention it will certainly require DFS channels) and there is an arguement for 6GHz as I would be the only person in my building using 6GHz, which is still in the "enthusiast" sector and not used by the typical household. My only concern is all the comments below from posters that are having issues with 6GHz... (naturally they can fall back to 5GHz with a Router like the AXE75 which offers 2402Mbps in BOTH bands). Recommendations are most welcome 🤗 Last but not least, a few screens (assuming I'm allowed to post links here...): 1. A beat-Saber run with Networking latency documented live.staticflickr.com/65535/53572793769_8b94bb3974_b.jpg 2. SteamVR-only game ("After The Fall" - purchased via Steam) with good results (the occsaional dip every ~120s or so, max) live.staticflickr.com/65535/53571624822_1fbcfd128c_b.jpg

[@loopysfunzone8158]

Regarding the Quest 3 taking a long time to connect to a 6e router, I was experiencing this with my AXE75. It would often take minutes. But I learned from a reddit post that enabling 2.4 and 5 wifi modes (I only had wifi 6 enabled) on the router makes the Quest 3 connect to the router (via 6e) much faster. And this worked for me.

[@iamone_]

Same here mine is also rock solid at 2400 and i use my default ISP wifi 6 router that is 6m away from me. The only thing i had to fix the channel number. I used wifi analyzer app for that and pick the one that is not used. Everything is so fluid now without stutters.

[@iamone_]

Side note: I bought Tp-Link Archer AXE75 wifi 6e router and that was a terrible experience with only standing 1m away from it (i'm returning it today). For some reason i don't need router anymore as my default ISP one just works now after the update.

[@FitzeVR]

They certainly have been stable 2401 for last five days , never dropped since been on PTC V62

[@Neawoulf]

Thanks for the update. Looks good! Took a bit too long to fix this, but better late than never. I tried the new patch as well both with my router and that d-link stick and it's a lot better now. I can play fine with low bitrates now, but high bitrates are still stuttery with high latency. Guess i need a new router. I was hoping i could wait until wifi 7 routers are a bit more common and affordable.

[@JeffreyBlakeney]

Good to hear that it is working for you now. Another difference in our setups is that you have over 10 times the users on your router than I have on my 5 GHz router. I have myself and my room mate using my router and still have to reset it about once a month because it gets messed up. The more concurrent users, the more likely the router won't have time to deal with everyone at full speed. I have been ill on and off the past month while still being busy so haven't had a chance to set up my 6 GHz router yet but I'm hoping it will solve the little lag spikes I was getting from time to time on fast moving graphics.

[@MrTeeF]

Yepp. You won't get a perfect signal without bottleneck frame drops on 5Ghz unless you have it dedicated. Thats why i have the so calles "bridge" which is a dedicated Accsess point. Pointless now though with my 6G nett. 😅... My router auto resets every sunday night. Probably a function for that very reason.

[@kelownatechkid]

This is excellent news! Thanks for your help to the community with this.

[@SiXiam]

Thanks for this. Just bought the same TP link router on a sale. Nice to go from 1200 to 2400 Mbps.

[@86themadhatter27]

That's interesting. I remember setting up my TP AX1500 at the beginning of this year, my router sits on my desk while i game and i would notice it often dropped from 1201mbps to maybe 900, sometimes even less. I was blaming it on my racing rig, that maybe having 4 different devices infront of my like steering wheel, fan, handbrake, shifter was causing an issue. So if this update smoothens this out then awesome. I'm stil on V60.000. Looking forward to image quality getting a little hazy when doing like 120mph on a rally stage.

[@ethansmith09]

What a journey it's been.

[@plasmasupremacy9321]

oh, we have the same graphics card and same wifi router, maybe I should get the update and try my results as well. Thanks for the update video I haven't had any wifi dropouts while playing at all, but I did notice the speed fluctuations earlier on v60

[@SaysSim0n]

thank you for your efforts! working great now! Since you are the man that gets things done around here I got a suggestion for you. Bluetooth latency is awful and ppl are forced to used wired headphones. Maybe you can get something rolling on this front as well. Just an idea

[@MrTeeF]

Thanks for the confidence. But wired sound is always preferable in VR, as just milliseconds of delay can cause disorientation. No amount of bluetooth latency there can fix it 100% with todays tech. Just try running speakersound simultaneously as bluetooth on your TV. You have to as artificial delay the image to match it, which isn't an option in VR. So prioritizing Bluetooth speed to the controllers is preferable, which by the way is also not good enough right now. ;)

[@t3chnod3lic]

Great news and huge thanks to you for bringing this to Meta's attention. Probably wouldn't of been fixed otherwise. Shoddy service by Meta though. I'm still puzzled why this issue only effected some and not all users. It's all the same hardware/software? Oh well. Three cheers! 🍺🍺🍺

[@LunchAndVR]

What! If what you say is true you will have gained my trust. Let me test it!

[@D3ft0ne]

TBH, I just noticed a weird ass issue, I think its related possibly to this thread. Quest 3 TPlink AXE75 (directly on the table 2 meters away from head set) Connected to PC with a cable Nothing else on wifi6e network but quest. Just reset to fac. def settings. ONLY on wifi6E - when I am facing (with Quest 3 on my head) the router - the transmit / receive is solid at 2401 /2401.... Now I noticed some crazy lags in Games via Air Link or VD. when I was physically turning around. - Well, when i Face AWAY from the router, still 2m away - my transmit / receive is constantly jumping up and down - to 1200 or so... What the actual s.. ? I think this started with v62 / v63, i never noticed this before.

[@thebigtelf]

I have the same router and this is exactly what happens to me. If i face the router, I'll get a steady 2401/2401. If i turn away from the router, latency skyrockets in the VD overlay

[@templeislandriven]

Having this issue as well. When the headset is occluded in anyway from direct line of sight to the router, signal degrades a lot.

[@jornaggror]

Thanks for the hard work all these months! So is this router replacing the default router from your ISP? Or do you have it specifically connected to your pc? If so, how are the the ethernet cables connected and are you using Cat 6?

[@MrTeeF]

Yes, my ISP device is set to modem/bringe and conneted with Cat6 to the AXE75 which is my main IP provider. My PC is wired to that router with a Cat6 cable yes. If you look at the end of this vid you can se my setup. Around 20+ clients, but my 6G is dedicated to the headset.

[@GrumpyWolfTech]

Awesome, I'll make sure to update my quest tonight and see if this worked for me. Glad to see my review of the poor wifi was justified and all the people saying it was my networks fault can suck it :P

[@MrTeeF]

It's amazing how fast some will try their hardest to defend their favourite faulty hardware by blaming the users. 😅

[@Khan613]

I have my wifi6e access point connected to my trusty old 1GB switch. I get similar connection speeds to you (and keeping in mind that my switch is basically a 1GB choke point) I'm having no stuttering using similar settings on my 4070TIS. Looks like I'm still on v60

[@MrTeeF]

Meta pushes updates to different regions at different dates. But it will come.

[@Chaos6-1]

As of today, on V64, factory reset Q3, ASUS GT-AXE16000 mega fast 6G router, getting WiFi stability issues and disconnects. The Q3 is literally all I’m having issues out of..and I’m exactly 33” from the router and it’s insanely fast and on 1G fiber. 😢

[@famalourian2463]

V64 completely broke what was a perfect airlink experience for me on 6GHz. It disconnects and reconnects a few times per minute now. Utterly useless. My 5GHz still works, but is glitchy even with a dedicated router 12 feet away with no obstructions.

[@Chaos6-1]

@@famalourian2463 same..it’s sad. I feel like they don’t completely have a clear picture of just how many people use Q3 and WANT to use Q3 for PCVR 😕 they could have a strangle hold on that market if the focused more attention on it, but I can’t even recommend it to others right now because they’ll hate dealing with the WiFi issues

[@joseandresjulienbarriere8786]

Nooo. I just returned my tp-link today thinking I had a problem with the router 😂. Why you did not upload the video yesterday 😅 Let me ask you. Can you play at 400mbps without stuttering? Or is it still unplayable? Also I still have v60 installed. How can I get it to update?

[@MrTeeF]

Updates are pushed at different times to different regions. It will come. Didn't stress test today but i assume so... (then again assumptions is the mother of all f#@! Ups)

[@joseandresjulienbarriere8786]

@@MrTeeF thx for your quick answer. I really hope I get that update soon, but I’m thinking there is something wrong because I don’t think they skipped 61 and I’m still in v60 🥺. That means I’m behind two big updates lol.

[@iamone_]

I had a problem with TP- LINK even with v62 update. I'm never buying tp-link again.

[@MrTeeF]

Nothing is wrong... they did skip v61.

[@joseandresjulienbarriere8786]

@@MrTeeF lol. That makes no sense. Is it like skipping the floor 13 in certain hotels? 🤣 But it makes feel better about it.

[@Angellus502]

FFS I gave up a few weeks ago, returned my 6E router and bought a couple of used TP AX5400's for about $35US each.. guess I probably get better coverage with 2 routers and speeds are 2400 so dont think it make to much dif

[@MrTeeF]

As long as you have two and one dedicated to your Quest you're golden. 😅

[@Angellus502]

@@MrTeeF I have 3. A basic AC2400 for normal phone/laptop use etc, the other 2 are setup as VR access points, one at each end of the house for my 2 play spaces. A single AX5400 will run a Quest 3 @2400 and a quest 2 @1200 at the same time without any stutters😀(the AC2400 would stutter like crazy trying to run the 2 headsets, but will run the Q3 perfectly). Does the 6E impove latency any? Thanks for the vids and the work you put in on this 👍

[@Let_the_fun_begin]

Great stuff, still waiting for V62. Oculus software says my 4080 Super isn't meeting minium specs for VR lol

[@Let_the_fun_begin]

⁠@@rangerkayla8824thanks for replying. It's definitely annoying.

[@MobileDecay]

They updated the text to lie to you and reduce customer service inquiries. 😂

[@MrTeeF]

That conspiracy theory is debunked in this video

[@MobileDecay]

@@MrTeeF I'm kidding. Lol.

[@AcEkrystal]

@MrTeeF How do you can >1Gbps speeds on that router (AXE75). I wanted to buy it at first for PC-VR streaming, but then I saw it only has 1Gbps LAN and WAN ports... That means that a wired PC can not get higher then 1Gbps connection to the headset. Sure the headset has 2,5Gbps connectivity, but the actually stream to the PC would get bottle-necked by the AXE75's network ports correct? Can you confirm your indeed limited to 1Gbps PC connection, if not, how did you solve it? Link aggregation?

[@MrTeeF]

Yes, like most common routers, the AXE75 has 1 Gbps LAN ports. You have to make a significantly bigger investment to get lightning speed there. However, the goal of 2400 Mbps over the Wi-Fi signal has more to do with stability and range than actual data transfer. If you want absolute lightning speed for LAN and Wi-Fi, I’d take a look at gaming routers like the ASUS GT-AX11000 PRO.

[@saiko361]

I got the Update for v64 now, Wifi is messed up, 5 ghz is slow and every few minutes timeouts and 6 ghz is unusable disconnects every 5 - 20 seconds... I can't find a way to downgrade to an older firmware...

[@famalourian2463]

Same here. V64 broke 6GHz completely, which had been perfect.

[@MrTeeF]

Alot of people reporting problems since v.64. But (un)fortunately my setup is still working perfectly. Still recommend using the "report a problem" function and share your issues on the meta forums.

[@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc]

Great set of videos. And I for one, really, super appreciate this series on the 6e band. Can i possibly pick your brains for a minute. I'll keep it brief. I currently have 67meg bt internet. Not fast, but i cant access fulll fibre in my area yet, without breaking contract (charged at £450). Will the archer work on my network. I play MSFS with 78003xd and 4090 and the meta link via occuls was stuttery as hell. Steam VR is better, but i still get flutter stutter. I am hoping going to 6e will help stabilise things. If my 67meg is not enough, I will have to break contract and go with Virgin (the only supplier) of full fibre wifi6. So finally, if i get full fibre, does the archer just plug into the new virgin router, and then become 6e? And with that setup, can i still get bandwidth to my aging other devices, that run of 2.4 hz and 5gh? Sorry for the noob questions, so hope you can help.

[@MrTeeF]

Actually, streaming VR over Wi-Fi is completely independent of your internet speed since it solely relies on the communication between your PC and headset. You can completely bypass your Virgin ISP router by configuring it to Bridge or Modem mode, which will transmit the internet signal to your new router, allowing it to take control of your network by assigning IP addresses and managing internet access. If you're unfamiliar with Virgin routers, you can refer to these resources for guidance: KZbin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZnZlYmjgNSDj9U Virgin forums: community.virginmedia.com/t5/Networking-and-WiFi/Modem-Bridge-mode/td-p/5309851 Alternatively, you can configure your new router to Access Point mode, creating a new WiFi connection point while still allowing your ISP router to handle internet distribution and IP address assignments. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHeqm3aOebeUqa8si=b0xpy1bxPLia9oDF

[@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc]

@@MrTeeF Thats helped a ton. Thank you! So to clarify, are you saying i can get great gameplay with my current 70+ meg broadband from BT? - WITHOUT NEEDING FULL FIBRE FROM VIRGIN? If i simply plug a 6e archer into MY HOMEHUB BT ROUTER?

[@MrTeeF]

@@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc basically yes... but not shure what you mean with BT? Is that a Home Hub modem/router brand for Verizon? In that case yes. But check your ISP (internet service provider) for more info on setting the hub to modem/brige mode.

[@PaulMcDonagh-rv6vc]

@@MrTeeF Yes mate, BT is a ISP in the UK. My download speed is rated at 76meg DOWNLOAD SPEED max. Usually get around 55meg constant. In my living room i have a white box, and then thats connected to the wifi home hub. At present, i have a cat 7 ethernet connected to my PC, which has a wifi6 inside. In my homehub settings, and on VDXR it showed i was on 2.4hz mode, and it said it was not enough to run VDXR. So, am i right in thinking, my fairly mediocre 76meg broadband speed bears no relation to the effective transfer of bandwidth to my quest 3? Its so weird, i just cannot get my head around how it works, and ive read loads on it. Seems to me at least to be a weird fuzzy topic that know one really knows much about. Except you of course ;-) ANYM ORE INFO WOULD BE REALLY APPRECIATED. THANKS SO MUCH.

[@freds690069]

Next up… Let’s get those Bluetooth phone notifications back !

[@MrTeeF]

I'd rather have a wristband feature.

[@VaticanTop]

Since V63, the broke Wifi6e/7 but only for Access Points. I can use 6ghz perfectly to my main router but unfortunately it's very far from my playing field. So i have to connect my router to an access point or another dedicated router in my room for Quest 3 usage. This was working flawlessly before, until V63 came out and it totally killed the 6ghz channels. I tried a U7 Pro AP, Omada EAP773 and even a TP Link BE9300 router in access point mode. 5ghz works flawlessly at 2100mbps but the 6ghz can't even be discovered and when it does, it's unstable with disconnections. I'm at my wits end with this device.

[@MrTeeF]

Oh... that is interesting. I'm using my AXE75 as a main router and have no issues. That might be why. Alot of people reporting problems since 64 (first I've heard of 63) ... so keep using that "report a problem" function in the headset.

[@VaticanTop]

@@MrTeeF Sorry I meant V64/V65, It was working perfectly fine on V63 so they definitely broke some sort of protocol for Access points or any router in bridged mode.

[@mikegc3816]

I did not know you are a magician!

[@GradynFranklin-dr8zk]

I’m still having problems i’ve had this headset for seven months now it was good for week one and now I’m having trouble decided to try the headset out again and update it. Nothing helps.

[@naalsocomment9449]

I had a couple of issues with my Quest3. One was with Wifi which seems to be fixed now. The other was with the quality of pass through. For me pass through was never better than the camera of my 15 year old smart phone. In your video pass through looks like very nice HD camera. Some people in forum complained about recorded pass through looking better than it does in HMD. Does the pass through quality in the video reflect what you see in your Quest3? No grain? no flickering? (except the distortion at the edges)

[@tomcatvrkalisz820]

I don't know what is wrong with the TP or the Quest, but I don't see the 6e network in the quest, just 2.4 and 5 , 6e is enabled like others but is not showing up in the quest 3....

[@MrTeeF]

Somewhat common problem though I've personally never experienced it. Look in the description for trubbleshoting. Also use the "report a problem" function in tyæhe headset and shoot a support ticket to TP.

[@maddugqc6911]

6ghz can be disturbed by a piece of paper so i sugest you to check where you place it because if you prefer to keep thing where they are you may have better performance on 5ghz

[@MrTeeF]

Don't worry. No paper. Only concrete and wood... No, but this is super inaccurate, so please watch the video and check your facts. It should be almost impossible to disturb a 6G signal if working correctly.

[@daniellegraham]

Really? Have you tested more than 24 hours? We had the same experience that after a new update or a factory reset, the wifi signal is rock solid. But after a few hours(3+), everything went back to what it was before. In fact, my solution is to buy a new router that has Qualcomm chipset in it. It works.

[@MrTeeF]

Sofare it still works. :)

[@MonkeyKind409]

It still keeps disconnecting for me

[@Terrylovesjougurt]

Is it only me or after initial fix they broke it again with the recent update?

[@MrTeeF]

Nope. Your the second one to experience this in ths comment section. Do a video grab of the isse and use the "report problem" function in the quick meny. That way meta gets your info. (Mine is still working)

[@DTProductionsEU]

How can you say they fixed it when it literally disconnected on you after a minute of use? This is exactly the issue with wifi6e, constant disconnects and Meta ignoring us because they would have to recall all the headsets and put proper antennas in

[@antonios5572]

Sorry for asking, but I don't understand. I've played all of Alyx using my 5GHz router and AV1 codec in Virtual Desktop. What would change by buying and using a 6GHz router?

[@MrTeeF]

Mainly less interference and more freedom of movement. For my sake i can also have 6G dedicated so no bottlenecks. Also the crisp resolution, low compression and clarity with the hige bitrates and Q3 resolution and lences has to be experienced... but in term of needing it? I'd compare it to upgrading you TV from HD to 4K.

[@antonios5572]

@@MrTeeFI've bought an AXE75 6E router, and the connection is very unstable at 6 GHz, losing it every minute or so when I leave the room. However, with 5 GHz, there are no problems at all. I'm pretty new to networking work (always used an ISP modem-router). May I ask for some advice? Same 62 version as you from my Quest 3 info

[@MrTeeF]

@@antonios5572 check description on trubble shooting. But also make a short video recording explaining your problem and use the "report problem" function in the headset. I don't have any issues with disconnections on 6G but i know a handfull of others are also struggling with this. Though 5G should also work fine as a workaround while meta is working on it.

[@antonios5572]

@@MrTeeF Thanks for answering me. I've already tried your suggestion, but still, the 6G keeps disconnecting. Yeah, I think I'll stop thinking about it and wait for a meta fix.

[@n8dawg727]

When was this update? Because mine was still spiking/lagging randomly on wireless last night while my pc was running perfectly fine. Also was perfect when cabled so it's clearly not my pc either since it's a very high end amd build. Was driving me crazy all month since was perfectly fine prior. I'll test it today but hard to believe. Started thinking was my wifi somehow but again was fine until their updates in January that seemed to break the connection stability.

[@MrTeeF]

Got mine yesterday but check your system settings. If it's still on 60.xxxx then you still haven't gotten 62 yet. Meta pushes updatets to different regions at different dates. Probably a failsafe so they don't accidentally brick all units at once. 😬 But it will come.

[@n8dawg727]

@MrTeeF ahh makes sense. Usually get them quick but didn't see it yet lol was like whhhhyyy am I on 60 🤣 it drops randomly but cable 100% smooth really hoping it arrives soon n fixes my issue otherwise it's my wifi which dont feel like buying a new dedicated router lol

[@Rueges]

If you could be so kind, how do you get that UI Overlay thing That has all the link speed and latency in frame rate specs on it to show?

[@MrTeeF]

Settings in VirtualDesktop. Under streaming turn on show preformence overlay.

[@S1MONSAYSVR]

Yay! Glad to hear they've fixed it. I can't say I had noticable problems before, but seeing that this is finally fixed is great. Love my quest 3, its the sauce. Ørlite tips hvis du er into StarWars, gjetter på det siden Grogu står på hylla der, så er Star Wars: Squadrons 95% av på steam nå. 19 spenn 😄

[@K11...]

Hi there! I found the initial video before I got my quest 3. I was sure I needed a wifi 6/6e for it... In holding off buying a new router I discovered that my old router is stable at 5ghz 866 mbps. I run av1 codec@ 200mbps in godlike mode with a 4090, and it seems to run flawlessly. Networking is + - 5ms. I still want to try the router, but I am now unsure if I will see any benefit of the upgrade. Any thoughts?

[@MrTeeF]

No need for more then a 5Ghz Wifi5. But if you want close to uncompressed image quality you sould atleast get a Wifi with 80Hz 1200Mpbs. A 160hz 5G will give you more wiggle room for interference and longer range and 6G should in theory illiminate interference completely (after v62)

[@K11...]

@@MrTeeF Ok, thanks!

[@Lloyd.B.]

The TP-Link AXE5400 (AXE75) has Gigabit ports - so how can you get more than 1gb (2401 Mbps) from the PC to the router please?.. Are you not using a cable from router to pc at all - and using another fast router to transmit to the AXE75 which then just passes the data on to the Quest 3?..

[@-a6833]

Unfortunately from v64 and onwards they've broken it again, this time moreso than ever, instead of wifi dropping packets it is now dropping the connection constantly and completely, it's like fighting an uphill battle (also none of the basic troubleshooting seems to do anything anymore)

[@TeamYeeps]

I'm on v67 and issue is still happening. I've even set my router not to auto switch and connect to 2.4g and 5g.

[@martiniac2]

Your bitrate is only at 44 Mbps when you play Alyx is that normal? I have an Asus RT-AX86U and my bitrate is at 32 Mbps. To get the max birate 200 mbps I have to put my 'Channel bandwidth' from '20/40/80/160' to '40' MHz. It slowdown my wifi speed from 2401 to 573 Mbps. I don't know if the problem is from Virtual Desktop, my Router or the Quest 3. With my Quest 2 I have 350 Mbps with a bandwith '20/40/80/160' MHz.

[@MrTeeF]

The bitrate was sett to VD default Hige Quality for testing. But i can't wait to finally try of pushing this headset to it's limit now that it finally works as intended. ;)

[@LunchAndVR]

​@@MrTeeF Actually yeah, test it at 200 +++ as our routers are supposed to be able to handle it. Let us know your results

[@user-im9zp4yp9x]

Dude plays at 44mbps and says “it’s like being cabled” while everything around him looks like a smudge 😂

[@MrTeeF]

The dude is testing the Wi-Fi stability and not the compression rates of VD. Now that I know it works I can start pushing the settings to see how far we can go.

[@SatanSlayerUK]

​@MrTeeF hi have you got contact details where I can message you my router and quest 3 setup please so that you can help me with my next step in fixing spikes 😢

[@jan_raynor_sereda]

OK that's wonderful news ... I myself on ASUS Router didn't have stability issue, but let's be honest not everyone want's to invest to their Local LAN so much money

[@Neawoulf]

Which Asus router are you using? I'm thinking about buying one myself, but i haven't decides yet which one.

[@Gaas35]

Your bitrate in Alyx is 44Mbps with H264+, can you disable automatic bitrate and set it to 500 and test if you have network spikes?

[@jjasper7512]

Over 2000 mbps... .I've got a stable 24 mbps, is this too slow for the quest 3?

[@Jodez23]

I'm recently new to the Quest 3 and I've been using link cable. Is the connection issue only with specific router brands or all brands, specific band, etc.? I tested wireless on an AC router for hours (upgrading soon) and it never disconnected. Lastly, is it only with first batch of Quests, better luck if purchased recently?

[@MrTeeF]

It was firmware so has been affecting all headsets, but it only had effect on some AX and AXE router. Disconnect was not the problem but unstable speeds and negotiation rates leading to varied results on PCVR steaming.

[@MrTeeF]

Issue is fixed now but if your interested you can se more on this long processes in my series which also has a TLDR description: kzbin.info/aero/PLjn_5lkVKEO5DMyTvY9TQhLMz2GjPQZ-u&si=4zOtgJqNPdq7zFyR

[@Jodez23]

​@@MrTeeFthanks for the info! Regarding your stream video, I see that your bitrate shows 40+ even though you have it set to 400? Do you have it set to variable? Wouldn't Wifi 6e enable you to stream constantly at 400? Why is it low?

[@christ3423]

i use 900 and put h264 on from auto@@Jodez23

[@rambocico5768]

Would a TP-Link Archer AX53 or AX55 work well with Quest 3?

[@MrTeeF]

I believe they both should work just fine... You will only miss out on having a dedicated 6G net. Using the 5G net could leed to some bottlenecking if you have alot of devices connected. If your planing on using it dedicated though i believe it will work flawlessly.

[@Rebel12m]

Could you please share you WiFi 5GHz settings? And why do you have "only" 44Mbit" ? Last question.. GPU?

[@MrTeeF]

AXE75 settings is shown in the video 13:00 44Mbps was the default when i set VD to High. Just wanted to test at default. Going to stress test the settings later now that i know the headset is working as intended. Running an i7-11700 - CPU Asus ROG RTX 3090 24GB - GPU My VRbrige Accsess point (1200 Mbps) setup is shown here kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHeqm3aOebeUqa8

[@Rebel12m]

@@MrTeeF Nice.. now with TP-Link AX50 5Ghz ax only.. 2401Mbit looks like much more stable... but 44Mbit in Alyx is not OK :) about 100Mbit graphics looks good.

[@ChrisJones-sw9il]

Hey friend. Does ofdma setting in modem make a difference for u with quest?

[@MrTeeF]

Honestly, I'm not sure, but I keep it enabled because theoretically, it's supposed to enhance the stability of device connections on your network. But Chat GPT seams confident: "OFDMA (Orthogonal Frequency Division Multiple Access) can indeed help improve Wi-Fi connections, including for devices used in virtual reality like the Oculus Quest 3. It allows multiple devices to transmit data simultaneously, which can lead to better efficiency and reduced latency in crowded Wi-Fi environments. So, leaving it on is generally a good idea for enhancing network stability and performance, especially if you have multiple devices connected to your network."

[@ChrisJones-sw9il]

@@MrTeeF thank u for your input.. I had what should have been a better router than yours. That asus Wifi6e.. it was bad really bad.. I managed to replace with same one u have! It’s perfect! Compared to the Aus . Your one u use is faultless :) I’m really happy u made all your videos on this topic! Otherwise I wouldn’t have found the right router! I will turn ofdma on and see how it goes my friend. Keep making your good videos friend :)

[@DerBums80]

Hi, i rent a shadow pc to play steam vr with quest 3. Also i bought virtual desktop but vd shows me that im not connected with shadow in same local network but anyway , thats to ignore i read in forums. I did a playthrough with half life alyx and i was stunned that it worked so well . My problem was, every 5 - 10 minutes my wifi connection broke and for 2 secs i got kicked out of the game . I heard its a problem from quest 3 since v63 or the wifi router is to lame. I tried it all but couldnt find any solution. Do you have an idea what i can do ? VPN makes it worse, tells shadow. Is there another way how to get the cloud pc ip connected to my local one ?

[@Let_the_fun_begin]

Finally my V62 as landed and this issue is fixed. Now is it really worth upgrading to wifi 6e ?? I've been holding off, may be a video comparison if there is much difference?

[@xerowolf4242]

I live in a rural area where the 160mhz DFS channels see little to no usage so I have had absolutely no problem with my wifi 6 router on the 160mhz 5G channel I have had it on. I get the full 2400mbps and it never cuts out. But if you live in a city or more densely populated area where you can't use those DFS channels then upgrading to wifi 6e will benefit you. also if you have a wifi 6 router that only works on the 80mhz channels at 1200mbps then that might also be a reason to upgrade.

[@Let_the_fun_begin]

Cheers my wifi 6 router only goes up to 1200mbps, I thought thats was the limitation of wifi 6. Wifi 6e gave you the 2400mbos. So ill definitely look in to this. Cheers for the reply.

[@Let_the_fun_begin]

I have an ASUS RT-AX55 (AX1800)

[@xerowolf4242]

@@Let_the_fun_begin wifi 6 (not 6e) can also give you 2400mbps but it has to be one that will work on the 160mhz DFS channels. Your wifi 6 router can only run on the 80mhz channels that's why it only gives you 1200mbps. If you are planning on upgrading, it probably makes sense to just get a wifi 6e router that has the 6G band. you may also be tempted to get a wifi 7 router but they are brand new, really expensive, and hardly any devices even make use of the new wifi 7 standard anyway. so unless you have money to burn, wifi 6e is probably your best bet.

[@ChrisJones-sw9il]

My quest stuck on 60. Won’t show any update .62. Any solution?

[@MrTeeF]

Unfortunately only one. Patience. Meta pushes updatets to different regions at different dates. Probably a failsafe so they don't accidentally brick all units at once. 😬 But it will come.

[@martiniac2]

When you do not use the Quest let the headset plug in charge mode.

[@t3chnod3lic]

It only dips frames a little when loading from pc takes place... but it's ok after that.

[@jacobwenderby8331]

I have the Archer AX55, Should it be able to do the same? I don't think I can get that speed or get it to 6gz at all 🤷‍♂️

[@MrTeeF]

Does not have 6G but has a 160hz 5G nett so that should give you full speed at 2401Mbps. You might run into some bottlenecking and frame studers if its not dedicated. But in general you should be fine.

[@jacobwenderby8331]

@@MrTeeF Thank you. It is not easy to understand all those numbers. But does it have wifi 6? Are there any settings I need to make somewhere to get it to run at full speed on the Quest 3 🙏

[@MrTeeF]

The default should be fine. But if not you can use the TP-link theader app to logg into your router and check the settings. Turn of smart connect and the 2.4 Ghz if you don't need it. Check 5Ghz channel range is at "20/40/80/160Hz" (Not 20/40/80Hz) You should be golden

[@Snack.Dragon]

I can not believe Meta fixed this issue, it's impossible mission, we know coding is somthing like magic.

[@MrTeeF]

True. 🧙‍♂️🪄✨️

[@TheGreyFox90]

I have the AXE75 and Quest 3 both with latest firmware updates installed, but whatever I do my 6Ghz SSID wont show up on the Wi-Fi settings on Q3. I don't know what to do, any suggestions?

[@MrTeeF]

Se troubleshoot steps in this video description. Also suggest recording a video and use the "report a problem" function in the headset. You can also contact TP-link support.

[@SaysSim0n]

@@MrTeeF I did this and was able to resolve all my issues

[@kosmonaut_fears]

I didn't even know there was a stability issue, my quest's wifi connection has been smooth as butter since day 1 not having AX or AXE router is probably why it seems.

[@MrTeeF]

Yepp. Did not effect most Wifi5 routers.

[@francy4589]

It's messed up again. really annoying and ruining my 1g internet connection and gaming experience on link or steam via virtual desktop.

[@amdmyers]

What kind of metric overlay is it on your left hand? want to try this as well. would be much appreciated if you can help me please.

[@MrTeeF]

@@amdmyers It's the preformence overlay from VirtualDesktop.

[@amdmyers]

@@MrTeeF lol i am so dumb. thank you so much! you also covered it in your vid, but i skipped that part. much appreciated brother! regards

[@Thesilentwolf7610]

Just bought a quest 3 and when I press the wifi, select the network and click connect , nothing happens. the only way is to use the browser and it asks you to select the wifi. any suggestions ? thank you

[@MrTeeF]

Factory reset your headset. If that does not help I'd return it and geta new one

[@Thesilentwolf7610]

@@MrTeeF I think it's software related tbh

[@ChrisJones-sw9il]

Hey my friend is your 6g still working great? I got the update. Mine sits on 2401 for a little bit then drops to 1700ish. But on 5g it’s stable. But 6g isn’t great and I’m right next to modem and pc connected :( wonder what the deal is..

[@MrTeeF]

Still working fine. Even cracked the bitrate up to 200 and it's still butter. But do a screen recording showing your bitrate fluctuating while standing still and send it to meta using "report a problem". They are still trying to improve it more.

[@johnhawthorne4716]

Hey could you help me with a tutorial on a dedicated 6e connection for my Q3 on my tp link 6e Router 😆

[@MrTeeF]

Just make sure your headset is the only device with Accsess to the 6G signal and use the 5G/2G signal for other devices. Then it is by definition dedicated. To set up a separate router as an Accsess point you can follow my previous video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iHeqm3aOebeUqa8 But strictly speaking not necessary if you intend on using the 6G nett.

[@LunchAndVR]

Just got v62, but the issue is NOT fixed for me in the public release. @tfoselli (sorry tagging you by your forum name haha) would you mind testing again at higher bitrates? 200mbps and above? I'll also record my own testings

[@MrTeeF]

200 mb is running just fine here... My original issues was the connection speed which now is stable at 2401 Mbps. If your still experiencing problems even with 2401 Mbps, your issues might be related to another problem. Unfortunately it's hard to follow up an issue that i can't replicate so maybe start a new tread?

[@MrTeeF]

Did you make a video on the issue? If you make a "wifi issues part 2" thread in the forums I'd gladly follow it if you share the link. ;)

[@LunchAndVR]

@@MrTeeF Part 2 haha, might do that soon. I am waiting for a few days to see if v62 has any other OTA updates, I bought another quest 3 and they both behave the same for this, so part 2 might very well come up

[@edmichel]

Hi. Does the TP-Link RE505X WiFi 6 that you were using before works fine with the Quest 3? I´m willing to buy it for the low price.

[@MrTeeF]

Still works, and still using it. 🙃

[@edmichel]

@@MrTeeF Thanks for you quick answer. Same speed of the AXE5400? No difference at all?

[@MrTeeF]

The 5400 runs a 6e and 5G at 160HZ giving you a top speed at 2400mbps. With RE505x and it's big brother re705x i could only get to 1200Mpbs. BUT as long as this thing can stay quite close to your play area it's more than adequate for a flawless experience.

[@simracingjunky9679]

Still having issues. would you mind sharing your settings? I have mind setup as AP, it's in the drop ceiling over my head, wired via cat6 to my pc, I have a 4090 pc and I tried different channels/bandwidth. latency randomly goes crazy in VD and everything lags in whatever title I'm playing.

[@MrTeeF]

My setup at 12:30 . Troubleshooting in the description. I have no issues. Turn on overlay in VD to identify where your problem is originating and use the headsets "report a problem " function.

[@simracingjunky9679]

@@MrTeeF Thanks and sorry, I watched your video few weeks ago, bought the router 3 days ago, troubleshooted and forgot you had mentioned your settings. Thanks again

[@kumalo6120]

Not for me, in my case was fixed at all with V62 that come from Public Test, yesterday was deployed the V62 Official and WiFi issue come back again.....really annoing about this

[@MrTeeF]

If you havent already. Record a short video showing your issue and use the "report problem" feature so that Meta gets you're info. What Router are you using?

[@kumalo6120]

@@MrTeeF Thank you so much!! I'll do it for sure!

[@IPlayIntoGames]

ok but when are they going to add 120hz support on link mode, its advertised that it support 120hz on the box, the quest 2 supports it on link but not the quest 3

[@MrTeeF]

If you use Virtual Desktop you can set it to 120 fps (3:10). But I would not recommend it unless you running flat content. It's very demanding on your PC and for me, it is not much of a sacrifice to have better fidelity with 90 fps... Also 120Hz is a battery vampire.

[@the0nlytrueprophet942]

They fixed it and then youve not come back? Is your connection that good weve lost you

[@JokerInstalls]

My transmit link speed and receive link speed are all over the place. What do I do?

[@MrTeeF]

Make a video recording on the headset showing the issue and use the "report a problem" function in the headset. Remember to give them the name and the brand of Router you're using. You can also post on the meta quest forums. My setup is still working as intended so i really can't help as long as i can't replicate the issue.

[@OhHeyItsMattyD]

any tips on getting it to actually connect to the 6ghz network? it just refused and only connects to the 5ghz

[@MrTeeF]

Se description on trubbleshooting. And use "report a problem" function in the headset.

[@naalsocomment9449]

Create separate networks (names) for 5G and 6G and have Quest3 'forget' about the 5G network and only configure the 6G network.

[@Vassagolapointe]

Hey :) Nice video thank you for the WIFI updates. Can you share you VD configuration please ? Thank you ;)

[@MrTeeF]

Pause at 3:10. For testing i just had a default High setting. And encoding is H.264+

[@Vassagolapointe]

Nice thank you, maybe i look away in that moment looool @@MrTeeF

[@xKenn]

Did you do anything special to get the v62 update? I'm still on v60 :/

[@MrTeeF]

Meta pushes updates to different regions at different dates. Probably a failsafe so they don't accidentally brick all units at once. 😬 But it will come. Just leave your headset in the charger and have auto update enabled.

[@marcosgeorgopoulos794]

Curious how come you run at high and not ultra? Your graphics card should be able to handle it?

[@MrTeeF]

Yepp, I just went for default High Quality for this test. Now it's time to see what this thing really can do and push this headset and router to its limits to ensure it works as intended.

[@Zocker230]

again disconnects since i updated to v63... on v62 everything works fine

[@shanehumberstone5262]

Oh so it’s going to stop me getting notifications of a Wi-Fi drop then(that’s the only way I know I’ve been having them 🤷🏻‍♂️)

[@MrTeeF]

Unfortunately im not shure if it will help with wifi dropping out as that has not been my main issue. But fingers crossed. If your still having trubble use the "report a problem" function and also contact support for your router to.

[@SaccoBelmonte]

What hardware version is your TPLink AXE75?

[@MrTeeF]

1.1.9 Build 20231115 rel.37295

[@SaccoBelmonte]

@@MrTeeF That's the Router's Firmware version, there is HW version 1 and some other version.

[@alxdpo6471]

Lol since the update sometimes my quest will connect and disconnect in a 3 sec rythm and it won‘t stop.

[@MrTeeF]

If it's mainly the 6g acting up, try using 5G and shoot a "report a bug" message to Meta.

[@spirix6075]

my is still unstable for quest 2 and 3 it was working a month ago with no problems

[@MrTeeF]

If your quest 2 is unstable I'd look closer at your network av PC because that should have no issues on the HMD side.

[@vitkasparek2461]

How do you achieve a 2,4 Gb speed with a router that only has a gigabit port? Do I not need the archer xe95 which has a 2,4 Gb lan port then?

[@MrTeeF]

2400 mbps is it's connection to the wireless network, not the PC directly.

[@vitkasparek2461]

@@MrTeeFAll right I understand. But why do I need to max it out then? And what is the actual amount of information transmitted by my PC? Is it the bitrate set in the streaming tab?

[@MrTeeF]

The WiFi speed rating also indicates the stability of your WiFi signal. A functioning 160Hz network should deliver 2401Mbps at close range, providing ample freedom of movement with minimal interference. However, a speed of 1200Mbps is still efficient if you're near the access point. Nevertheless, I intend to play in a separate room.

[@ts-in2bv]

mines still having problems even with all the updates i’ve downloaded can someone help me with this problem please

[@GradynFranklin-dr8zk]

I have the exact same problem, and I don’t know what to do please help us

[@Pro-Bert]

Thats nice, i sent my headset back a week ago.. 🙄

[@MrTeeF]

Nooooooooo!.... a well... we lost one guys.

[@k0lpA]

sadly doesnt work for me I keep disconnecting every 10 mins :(

[@MrTeeF]

Use report a problem feature in the headset to let Mera know. They are promising even more improvements in v.63

[@christ3423]

TP-Link AX6000 - not had any probs since i bought it in October(Q3) wireless .. just saying..

[@MrTeeF]

A workaround was to buy high-end gaming routers as they have higher signal strength, but most people don't have the funds to invest another $250-$600 on a router.

[@christ3423]

Roger that , i only paid £50 for this of a friend to free up my crappy broadband router.@@MrTeeF

[@MiXobitGames]

How can I activate that overlay ?

[@MrTeeF]

Streaming preference in VirtualDesktop. Show Preformence Overlay

[@AdeptuS.AnonyMouS]

I've yet to have any hiccups I run HEVC 10 bit @75mbps on wifi 6. 2401mbps never drops for me. The main difference I see is that your Max Bitrate is double mine. Wonder why that is? My router might be worse than yours, I'm using the Asus TUF AX 5400 or something close to it. Sucks ppl have been struggling with it..

[@SIR_Studios786]

what minimum speed of wifi works for pc vr gaming on quest 3 ?

[@MrTeeF]

You'll be fine with around 800 Mbps. But 1200Mpbs give you better quality and less compression.

[@lolol123lolol100]

@@MrTeeF are you talking about real speeds (in oculus debug tool) or about specs?

[@LoneWolfAndKub]

They fixed it???? Why am I still having issues?

[@famalourian2463]

You’re not the only one. Before v64, Wifi 6E worked on pcvr without issue. Once I had v64, it connects on 6ghz but drops connection seconds after pressing connect button on headset. I had zero problems before v64 with my xe75 Deco 10 feet away, no obstructions.

[@LoneWolfAndKub]

@@famalourian2463 how do you find which bandwidth works for you??? Is it trial and error??? And do you only know if you are successful if (when you’re playing) it doesn’t frequently disconnect you?

[@famalourian2463]

@@LoneWolfAndKub I have a TP-Link Deco XE75 Pro set up as an access point and wired to my main router. I use my setup only for PCVR, not to run any apps natively on the headset alone. The Deco is set to show 6GHz and 5/2.4 as 2 separate SSIDs, so I know which one I'm connecting to. Before v64, the Wifi 6E (6GHz) connection was perfect, smooth, flawless. Now, it appears to connect and stay connected to 6E only until I try to launch Quest Link to start PCVR. I get the black and white grid and start to hear the soft drone background music, but then it disconnects within 5-10 seconds and drops me back to the Quest 3's native UI. If I reconnect, it says it connects successfully, only to bounce me back out again within seconds. My problem with 6E started literally the instant my headset rebooted after the v64 update. v63 was SOLID and wonderful. I wish they'd just let us revert to earlier software, because it's essential for troubleshooting to have the ability. Quest support admitted over a month ago (4/18/24) on communityforums that there is a problem and they're working on it. Very frustrating... My workaround for the moment is to just use 5GHz, but that is not a solution. Edit: It's working again for me on V67! I didn't change anything with my hardware setup.

[@MrTeeF]

It made a comback for men in v.65. But atleast now we have proof of how it's supposed to work without people bleming us for having "to high expectations"... Guessing Meta will pach it back up as long as people use the "report a problem" function.