Metal Bandsaw Upgrades - 4x6 Bandsaw Improvement To Clamp And Table

[@WinkysWorkshop]

Love the little table idea. Most often that size is big enough.

[@aceroadholder2185]

Unless you use it a boatload, you can make the table from Aluminum. You aren't likely to wear it out.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

So true, I find that to be my case as well 🙏🏻

[@spehropefhany]

Took a while to get a round tuit, but built the table mod with 1/4" aluminum plate. Works great, thanks!

[@RRINTHESHOP]

Love the Mods. All great ideas and well thought out. Now you just caused me more work for mine. Thanks Yuchol.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Randy, I am just trying to make sure you don’t run out of projects on your end 😁

[@joeldriver381]

yep- I now have a another project to start.

[@garywalters4286]

Now I have to go to work on my saw.Great upgrades!

[@randy-yk1yk]

I loved the whale shout out. I watch his channel all the time.

[@robtroman7917]

Brilliant modifications. These saws are awesome I owned one 30 years ago and used it everyday for 10 years. It ran all day long you could fry an egg on the motor it got so hot. A few months ago I bumped into the guy I sold it to he told me apart from a new switch it is still going strong. Not bad for a £200 machine.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

I can cook eggs on my motor too. Thanks 😁

[@paulinmt2185]

All nice mods, but the custom table for vertical use is brilliant! I always hated swapping in the table for a single cut. That one is on my short list for this weekend. Cheers!

[@hickorytreeful]

Agreed! I love the table that can remain in place while cutting horizontally. Nice work.

[@AWDJRforYouTube]

Love the intro Yuchol ...that is the way with my import bandsaw since 1984 been a struggle, great video!

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

I had some fun with the intro 😁

[@nlo114]

I've got one of those generic bandsaws. The vice-plates measured at 87 and 89 degrees (rather than 90), so they went on the mill for correction. The arm-pivot was also bored and re-shafted to correct it's movement. A jacking bolt with locknut was fitted to the moving jaw to enable clamping short-stock. With re-engineering, these are a cheap alternative to elbow-wrecking manual effort.

[@michaelrosenlof1084]

Great and clever upgrades to the saw, Yuchol, thanks for the excellent presentation ✅👍

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Michael! 😁

[@mickgentry8128]

Great to see you back Yuchol !! Yes my bandsaw needs these upgrades now! Great show thank you.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Mick👍🏼

[@pherdantler707]

I can relate to that opening on soooo many levels. An exceeding clever and well edited clip. Love your sense of humor!!!!! Thank you!

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Glad you enjoyed it 👍🏼

[@StoryOfJames.]

Your table top design is awesome! Thank you for sharing this

[@RPMechanics]

Very nice upgrades!

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thank you 👍🏼🙏🏻

[@outsidescrewball]

Enjoyed...always like shop upgrade ideas

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Chuck!

[@AXNJXN1]

You shared an amazing set of upgrades and even inspired me... Thank you for this video.

[@steveforbes7718]

Excellent! I bought my EMCO way back in 1984 from their store in Massachusetts just before they closed it. It was fully assembled and aligned already and only cost me $75.00. I have never done anything to it other than replace blades and the roller bearings and lose the table for upright use. It still has the original belt! I've never had even come close to tipping over but, I do agree that the platform is a bit on the shaky side. There are a lot of videos on making upgrades but, I like your modification to the vise best. I'm definitely going to borrow your idea. I may still make up a new support table for it since it does appear to be a worthwhile adventure. Especially with the introduction of a coolant system. Thanks for the video.

[@ferriswhitehouse1476]

that intro was 10/10. amazing. bravo. instant sub and nice saw upgrades

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Really a good design. Nice video showing it. Time 08.30. The bolt balancing the moving jaw is great. I prepared for 3, one low, one in the middle and one high. Not long ago I made the same arrangement but without screwing the new parts to the bandsaw jaws. It has made a great job already. It will be thrilling to see what additional fixtures You might come up with. Also bought Randys knocker, scriber and dove tail cutters. Great tools. Time 13:25. On the modell I've got there's an adjustable blade guard the interferes with the table and needs special adjustment for horisontal cutting. The preferred adjusting is unfavourable for the table at horisontal cutting. Great portable table. I still use the crappy metal legs....

[@Dongaz]

That intro was great. Great way of getting your message across.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

🙏🏻👍🏼

[@AJR2208]

Hi Yuchol, this was a good morning coffee for me today - thank you. A few people have been on the band saw wagon recently and your improvements are up with the best of them. You also got me re-thinking my little saw. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. Stay safe and well :)

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Anthony! 🙏🏻

[@mhc6777]

Thanks Yuchol, great upgrades and easy to follow descriptions on how to make them. I've been trying to justify getting a small band saw for the limited times I need one but this video has convinced me I definitely need one - so I can upgrade it! :)

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Glad I can help

[@JacobAHull-nx6rx]

The music is great! You got some great machines. That new plate looks beautiful .

[@larrykent196]

Those are great cut off saws right out of the box. Great price and they work, light duty so be easy with them and they last years. The upgrades are fantastic ideas well done. Thanks for the video. Cheers!

[@TheKnacklersWorkshop]

Hi Yuchol, Some nice upgrades to your bandsaw... the threaded hole to accommodate a spacing bolt was very clever... Take care. Paul,,

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Paul, wish I could take the credit, but wasn’t my original idea 😁

[@joewhitney4097]

Great video for the modifications. I think your ideas are fantastic and look great. Thanks for sharing.

[@johnyoung7794]

Good to see you back in action, looks like its raining a little this week.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Raining a lot 😭

[@michaelhale4041]

Sir I love that intro and love the mod on the bandsaw. It is as good as the attachment James dedman did for his bandsaw. Both are very nice improvements. Thank you for sharing this tip.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Michael, glad you enjoyed it.

[@47vulcanride]

Good job, good project

[@howardosborne8647]

Good mods, Yuchol. I have modded mine so I can mount a 7" adjustable angle plate on the bed. Enables compound angles to be cut and awkward workpieces to be mounted. Large vee block is another I can see as useful for some work holding applications. I like that cutting table idea and the design allowing it to be a permanent attachment. All good stuff,keep them coming.👏👏 Edit to add: Kurt has been asking when he can have his machine vise back.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Howard, please tell Kurt it’s in the mail 😀

[@howardosborne8647]

@@woodscreekworkshop9939 He'll be delighted to hear that😁

[@homemadetools]

Good work. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎

[@JamesDedmon]

Neat modifications, on my saw it doesn’t do vertical, so that’s always a drawback. I use fixtures for short and odd cutting on my horizontal. Of course I converted a 12” craftsman or metal for vertical work

[@SamGlasser]

Great ideas, I will need to do the same to my saw. Been struggling with holding small stock. Thank you!

[@CraigsWorkshop]

Great upgrades Yuchol. I'd love to hear the other bandsaw upgrade ideas - please do share them. More for the infinite project todo list :-D

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Definitely more will come. Thanks Craig 👍🏼

[@4SafetyTraining]

great ideas, Thanks

[@andyZ3500s]

Some clever upgrades Yuchol. Just before this I watched a video about making a table for vertical use on a 4" × 6" horizontal bandsaw on Winky's Workshop. Anyone who hasn't seen his channel should take a look.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Andy, Winky’s channel is definitely a good one to watch.

[@howder1951]

I have been thinking to take the TIG torch to the table once it warms up a bit, same with the sheet metal welding carts I have. It's worth try and fairly frugal. I like your table , vise mod and that is one sturdy cart upgrade. Enjoyed, cheers!

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks!

[@brucewilliams6292]

Thank you for the great ideas!

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Bruce

[@williamdavis4268]

Good idea on the saw vice, looks like you have been in my shop for my vice is the same way but it's about 8 years old I used 3/8 thick stock and taped in it 5/16-18 also taped a 5/16-18 hole where you have the 1/2" hole for the stop adjuster I use a 6" long carriage bolt that is threaded all the way

[@lloyd4768]

I've done the vise on mine the same, but I'm going to use your idea for the upgraded plate!!! Great idea!! Thanks.

[@EverettsWorkshop]

The vise on mine could use modification, similar to how you did yours. And yes, my bandsaw is often messy too.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Now I don’t feel so bad, thanks! 😁

[@gangleweed]

Once I bought a bandsaw I never looked back......it didn't come with a vertical table add on so I mocked one up from some ply wood to see how it would work before I made a steel one and a year later it's still on there....the steel one is on my to do list.......the longer jaws are interesting too.

[@mikenixon9164]

Good video. Randy is top notch.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

He is

[@AmateurRedneckWorkshop]

Looking good there Yuchol. Those are all great useful additions/changes. If I can ever get the blade to stay on for a while day I may do the same for my bandsaw.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Harold, I hope you figure out the blade tracking 😁

[@MattysWorkshop]

Gday Yuchol, there great modifications, I need to do the same to the vice on my power hacksaw, throughly enjoyed watching, cheers Matty

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Matty!

[@brandontscheschlog]

The bandsaw table looks great. Im gonna have to copy this for mine.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Send me some pics when finished my friend

[@x_ph1l]

Cool mods! Mine saw table also has dedicated shop vac at the bottom with pedal switch, so that you can clean table after cutting some stock without any extra motion.

[@danmitchell5897]

Good to the point but fun to watch spot on upgrades that are essential to safe effective use of this type saw. This could be a kit he sells easily.

[@anthonyhalpin66]

Man, that intro was epic 😅

[@Woodsguy]

Great, now you added another project on the need to do list!

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Glad to help 😁

[@brandontscheschlog]

I love my HF ratcheting tap wrench. Everybody busts on me for buying it but they refuse to admit it works great and it cheap if it eventually breaks. 8 or so years and it still works perfectly.

[@EitriBrokkr]

How do you not have a million subscribers, your content is awesome

[@aros007z]

Bad ass upgrades!

[@diegotinegimenez]

Perfect table ideia. Congratulations.

[@alfredneuman4905]

Fantastic, will update grade mine soon!

[@alardon1126]

I like that table. I used to live in Lake Stevens, WA.

[@alankleinman5494]

Great ideas and suggestions! Rather than making new jaws for the vise, how about replacing the vise with 2"x2"x1/4" angles. You can drill and tap the angle for fixtures as you did with jaws but you won't reduce the capacity of the saw by the width of the jaws.

[@larryg9671]

Nice vid. The gap under the machine will hold one of those cookie sheets from the dollar store. I love mine, just pull it out and dump it.

[@kitmaira]

I’m in the process of making some of your upgrades. I recently picked up a similar bandsaw in terrible shape for $50. I replaced all the bearings, and spent two days trying to figure out how to get it to run without losing the blade. Finally got it aligned and it works pretty good. You are right about the legs that come with the saw being useless. I need to study your stand to try to figure out the dimensions and learn to weld. Are plans available? I look forward to seeing more mods for this saw. First thing I did after buying it was to look for other KZbinrs ideas for modifying it.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

I mentioned some rough dimensions in the video, but no plans. Thanks for watching!

[@DK-vx1zc]

Very nice !

[@robertcorrie6737]

Extend the out feed table so you can clamp down oddly shaped parts. I also made a few large T nuts for the center slot so I can use hold down hardware. Just a few hints. Thanks for the great content.

[@markneedham752]

Today, 2023, same bandsaw, I have just made 3 cuts on a piece of channel, 250 x 90.

[@jeffanderson1653]

Great idea with the vise jaws.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks

[@motari6249]

amazing work as always

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@rightwinggunslinger1]

LOVE your videos! I cannot remember seeing you use a steady rest. I want to build one for my machine. Would love to see you do it first (if you don't already have one.) Extra points for a hinge opening.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Travis, I already have a steady rest, but not the most stout one, maybe an upgrade in the future...

[@jamescole3152]

You like your center drill. Nice and stiff. People say a spotting drill works better for starting a hole.

[@TangentJim]

Yuchol --- sweet up grade. Two thumbs up.

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Great work. I've got the same modell of saw. Time 05:10. Checked my saw and got an idea. Why not loosen that stationary jaw and drill new holes in in so it comes closer to the blade? Time 08:50. Brilliant way to support the jaws.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Stefan. There wasn’t enough material on mine to move that far.

[@bcwrangler]

Good upgrades Yuchol....I will add some of those once I find a used one.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks man

[@anthonymarino4260]

great upgrade

[@bradwiebelhaus7065]

Nice upgrade.

[@TomMakeHere]

Great work Yuchol! I need to do the same with my bandsaw jaws, and a whole lot more. I'll add it to that endless project list

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

A list is good, start worrying when you run out of things to do 😁

[@TomMakeHere]

@@woodscreekworkshop9939 that's impossible! Lol

[@kaieteurcanada]

Great idea... but you will have to take them off if cutting a 45 degree angle on any stock about 2.5 inches or greater... just wont be able t hold the stock yet swing to 45.

[@jonsworkshop]

Hi Yuchol, interesting bit of editing, can only imagine how long that took! Great upgrades, I was planning a vertical table for my saw, held in the vice, I am now reconsidering, excellent idea. Cheers, Jon

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Jon🙏🏻

[@pauldevey8628]

As always, you produce great and informative videos. Oh, funny too

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Paul 🙏🏻

[@douglasthompson2740]

Nice. I would put a spacer under the saw between it and the pan allowing a baking sheet to be inserted which catches the cutting fluid for reuse and makes dumping the swarf very easy. I made a fixture to allow the sheet to be lowest at the corner closest to me in which the cutting fluid builds up. I use a HF paint brush to dip the fluid and put it back on the blade and cut. That allows me to keep copious fluid on the cut yet using very little actual fluid. Just keep recirculating. I also used all thread with a head on the jaw bolt so I use the same bolt in all situations. Good video once you got to the subject. I could do without the intro antics. Just saying.

[@mohsenmoazami5268]

thank you for trans farring your experience i with i had one of these devices too.thank you very much ,but the problems of life didn't make it possible for me

[@larryschweitzer4904]

I bought one of these saws about 20 years ago. It has the Delta name on it. I don't think they've made any improvements in 20 years. About 10 years ago I finally made a similar table and tapped the vice for a bolt. Still on the terrible stand but I rarely move it. The belt guard is falling apart, added that to the list. Seriously considering a hydraulic down feed and a slobber coolant system. Maybe next year!

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

These saws are like a blank canvas 😁

[@SuperJaXXas]

Thank you! Love the vise mods, in process of the same on my 7x12 which has the same problem. Have you made your 45 degree adapter yet?

[@SolidRockMachineShopInc]

Nice job!

[@bluesman7191]

Another great video. I would make a blade guard for when you use the saw in the vertical position. I don't like seeing blood. Especially if it's mine!

[@glenncpw]

It is funny, I am in the midst of doing the jaw upgrade to my saw. Only for the reason I can cut smaller bits and be able to grip then without jumping out of the vice. I might add been carting a length of solid metal around with me now 25 years, I am now sectioning it into small bits 70mm x 60 mm. Good onya Yuchol...

[@MY-bw2nb]

I think everyone has one of these 4x6 band saw including me now i need to do the upgrade. As far as the mess i find when using cutting fluid it makes the chips stick to everything and made my guide bearings sound really chunky so ijust slow speed down and run dry i use the bi metal blades rather than the carbon steel ones. Now I picked up a used 7x11 which was run with flood cooling it had a new blade but unfortunately all the guide bearings were toast plus what a mess to clean up the old coolant residue did i tell you how much I hate flood cooling lol. Needless to say I ditched the pump and reservoir however it had a nice tap and flex tubes with nozzle the tap happened to be the same size as my air fittings so now i just attach air hose to it and give just enough air volume to clear the chips and with the nozzle lined up with center of blade i find this also cools the blade been using it like this for about 6 months now and I have cut off a bunch of 3x4 inch tractor hitches and 4 in drill stem pipe blade holding out good now I'm going to do the same thing with the little 4x6 bandsaw after i make those plates for both of them. My tufado list keeps getting longer and longer every day with my own ideas then I get more ideas from people like you that come up with great ideas problem is too many ideas not enough time lol i think my brain is going through a overload don't know where to start first 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🧠🧠🤯🤯⚠️⚠️⚠️‼👍👍🥃🥃🔥

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

💪🏼power through the list my friend 😁

[@chrissollazzo6835]

I'm interested how well the jaw setup works for you. I was taught that the distance of the blade from the jaw is intentional, providing room for the blade to stray. As you likely already know, it doesn't take much of an "oops" to cause the blade to stray. My thought is that if your blade should stray into your vice, you may break or cause more damage than you want. Please keep us posted. P.S. Found you on Rumble a few nights ago. I hope that platform works for you.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Chris. This saw has been tracking very well, surprisingly well, but as you have said, never know. I promise I won’t cry if it happens 😁

[@chrissollazzo6835]

🤣😃😅

[@terrycannon570]

Excellent Yuchol. I just finished watching Winky's saw table build. Both are great ideas. Excellent creativity and workmanship on both . Hope all is well with you and family. I have been wanting to make a lead knocker myself but lead is getting hard to come by. My head keeps asking me Knocker or Bullets.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Terry! Always go for more bullets 😁

[@terrycannon570]

@@woodscreekworkshop9939 YES !

Dont demagnetizing those drill bits. Make them even stronger then no more chips spilling.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

That’s true, didn’t think about that 😁

[@terryk3118]

Enjoyed your video. Admired the machine work also. Is that some kind of a spring-loaded center that you are using to support the tap, or are you just following it with the quill as the tap advances?

[@freeidaho-videos]

Good stuff here. Instead of bolts for your vice hold open, use an all-thread to cover all ranges with one bolt.

[@troyam6607]

fantastic! the highlight was when it was covered in chips.....then you cleaned it

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

I can save the chips and send them to you next time 😁

[@troyam6607]

@@woodscreekworkshop9939 please do! Carbide, please and thank you 😁

[@westweld]

Nice improvements.....the bandsaw bit in the beginning was 👍......I have the same tap wrench its one of the few things from harbor frieght I dont hate all the way.....I love how smooth your machines sound.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks. 🤪

[@terrycannon570]

I have the same tap wrench. I asked Yuchol where he got it the first time i saw him use it and I went directly to H/F and brought one and brought it home and put it in the drawer with the other 9 tap wrenches i already have. Those 9 are now like the Maytag repairmen they never get used now that i have this one. It does have its draw back . When I was using a left hand Acme Tap i forgot to switch it to left hand and almost never got the damn tap to start. LOL

[@tommasobuscetta6173]

Instand-Like for the intro 😄

[@SierraADV]

Ok, it's been two years. What would you do differently now? Any updates?

[@rogerpetrella5993]

Great video. Can you make a measured drawing available of the table?

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Would be different dimension for every model, my rough measure,net would be a good starting point for you. Thanks!

[@OldSchoolLFCGeezer]

Hi Yuchol ! I was wondering which type of mill you used in this video? I was also wondering where you get replacement wheels for the guides on your bandsaw? I've liked and subscribed, so please keep up your useful and informative videos. 👍

[@kwaaaa]

Oh man, I just spit my drink at the opening movie clip, LOL.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

😁

[@garyhall2126]

Nice upgrades Yuchol! As usual your video was entertaining as well as informative. Keep up the good work! Did you get snowed in last week?

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Thanks Gary. We only for couple of inches, lost power for a day due to wind. Nothing we couldn’t handle 😁

[@DudleyToolwright]

Damn Yuchol, you Liptonated me. Now I have to go to Hazard Fraught and pick up one of those tap handles. By the way, excellent editing. You must have spent almost as much time editing as you did making this project. I really enjoyed it.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

Something tells me Tom costed you a lot more money than I have 😁 As you already know, editing takes awhile, but I find it to be enjoyable in a sick crazy way 😒

[@bheckel1]

now drill and tap the vise bed for your hold down tow clam set mine uses 1/2-13 rods. Then make a pallet for even smaller parts. you will be very happy.

[@DonziGT230]

The extended jaw is great if you never cut angles. The first time you swing it to do an angle you're going to find that you need to cut through it which will leave it shortened.

[@woodscreekworkshop9939]

It is removable.