Metal Detecting: Nail Tests with the Garrett AT Max and Teknetics G2+

[@unearthed-detecting-tv]

Here in the uk, its the only machine i use, and trust me after 36 yrs in the game its up there with my very best detectors! top 2 for sure is the G2+

[@thehuntergt]

Unearthed UK LTD I've seen plenty of videos where it seems like a magic wand in your hands. You are a master of it for sure my friend.

[@cruzy1969]

Hi Graeme, how much for the mars coil for the f75 best regards Brian from mdf

[@unearthed-detecting-tv]

FISHER F75-GIBROCK Hi brian, we no longer sell mars coils mate

[@cruzy1969]

thank you. looks very good on one of your videos reviewing the f75

[@unearthed-detecting-tv]

FISHER F75-GIBROCK good coils but for other reasons we decided to cease trade

[@markhagopian3257]

I guess this is another reason I'm a happy f75 owner. I've seen videos of f75's on 1 or 2 tones pick up coins under a piece of iron. Not a small piece either. I haven't done it myself, but I have seen out done. And the machine did it effortlessly. Love my first Texas products. Oh, and my tesoro' s. Nothing works around large metal objects liked a fence line or shed like a compadre.

[@thehuntergt]

Mark Hagopian F75 is a great machine. I'm a T2 guy myself but have seen it do amazing things at relic and park sites....and tests. HH my friend.

[@t-n-tdigger5384]

Thanks HunterGT.. That was an unbelievable comparison test. I had no idea the difference in discrimination was so outrageous. You definitely got them Garrett People up in arms I am sure. Thanks for sharing. looking forward to some gold panning vids.

[@thehuntergt]

Yeah it's a pretty clear cut comparison. The Patriot vs Max video coming up is not much different. That snap - crackle - pop audio is a step backwards in my opinion. Might as well of just left the bell tones. I promise man...gold videos are coming up!

[@IffySignals]

I have to chime in after reading these comments.. i have videos with the AT Max & Patriot and i had high hopes for the Max. It did beat the Patriot in depth in my yard and also seemed better at separation although i had the Patriot set in Delta Pitch tones. The bottom line in my opinion is the AT Max is a failure to people who live in areas with iron or like to hunt relics. I spent allot of time with it and no matter what you do or settings you use it is crackly and makes awful iron noise even when discriminated out. Everything in this video is spot on. I sold the Max and lost money because of the constant iron tones and crackling audio. When i put a machine in coin mode or discriminate out Iron i dont want to hear Iron. I am pretty sure there is going to be a recall. Even the AT Pro had crisper tones. If you are going in the water get the Pro or Max. If you want something to hunt all terrain with crisp tones, great depth, and real discrimination settings get the Patriot or F75 ltd. I now have the Patriot and F75 ltd and am more than satisfied. Spending $700 on a machine that you cannot bear to listen to wondering if these Iron crackles are deep relics/coins is not worth it when they have Fishers that are top notch and have five year warranty’s. My Opinion is Garrett dropped the ball.

[@thehuntergt]

Can't argue with that one Iffy. That crackle and pop sounds baffles me to be honest. Many of them sound like that and I would not be surprised if there was a recall on them at some point. According to other theirs do not sound like that and they have much better tones - so maybe Garrett fixed them and never said anything to the early buyers...who knows.

[@IffySignals]

Wow Hunter i didnt know there were some out there that did not make the noise. When i asked Garrett about the crackling noise they said it was because it was more sensitive than the AT Pro. I’m looking forward to your Patriot vs Max Video.

[@thehuntergt]

I've never seen one that didn't sound like this...I'm just saying others "say" they have one like that. I'm a bit of a skeptic myself.

[@IffySignals]

The thing does go deep i gotta give it that but anyone who lives in an area with Iron or just wants to hunt relics is going to have to put up with the constant cracking and popping. Like trying to find a station on an old AM radio.

[@strongsound4819]

It would of been nice to see this test using gold or silver instead of a zinc penny.

[@loganschannel3262]

Great video Hunter. I love every single one. Keep it up

[@thehuntergt]

Logan's Channel Thanks Logan. Appreciate your support my friend.

[@IffySignals]

Iron audio is so annoying on the max. Had to get rid of it. My ears were going nuts. Crackle Crackle Crackle :(

[@thehuntergt]

Iffy Signals Not the greatest sound out there. Pretty darn annoying. In bad dirt that causes crackles and pops...very difficult to tell where deep targets are.

[@IffySignals]

TheHunterGT I Got rid of it and now have the F75 LTD.. night and day. Awesome Machine! So deep and crystal clear.

[@linr2870]

I bought a new At Max and it drove me nuts. Gone have the G2+ now.

[@ohiofarmhunter3301]

I've tried the pro and gold both in Ohio in my backyard they both sound broken because of the horrible iron discrimination. Crackle snap pop. But with that being said I hunted a sight with underground dog fence it made my t2 erratic even with adjusting everything where the gold was not erratic and ran fine.

[@seansmith119]

Hi, its only people who have never used the g2+ that slate it, Or failed to learn to reset gb and reset detector on a coil change. although i loved that angle grinding iron audio! i prefer fetone thanks. hh hunter clan.

[@thehuntergt]

Sean Smith Tthanks for watching man! G2+ is pretty underrated here in the states by relic and coin shooters. It is much more than just a gold detector.

[@nickhaas2407]

At $449 that is a fantastic deal along with a 5 year warranty! Can the display handle a little rain? I hate having to put those clear plastic hoods over my display because the sun reflects off it. I agree, it is easy to add a BT (with APTX low latency) for $50!

[@thehuntergt]

Nick Haas It could handle a light sprinkle for sure. However larger droplets accumulating and running down into the cracks could be an issue.

[@nickhaas2407]

Thanks for doing this review! I want to hold out and see you do the same test on the Equinox 600/800 (coming out soon) vs the G2. I think I would be willing to pay a little extra for one that has the ability to switch frequencies and is waterproof. I did not have any of the big nails, but I found 2 big screws and 2 of the smaller nails to run the Monte test. The AT Pro with iron discrimination maxed at 40 with the 5x8 (I was too lazy to switch to the Standard or NEL Storm), did better than in your test, but gave a weird VDI reading on the Shield Penny (like in the 50s). The XP Deus with the 11" coil smoked it though in 17.7khz (what I normally run in) with some adjustments to discrimination and silencer. I think I could have just upped the reactivity to 2.5 and it would have let me hear clearly the nails, zinc penny, and a needle too! But.... The Deus costs as MUCH as the the AT Pro and G2 combined!

[@thehuntergt]

Nick Haas Yeah the Deus is one fancy detector with all those settings. I had fun while using and reviewing it...but the price was a little out of my range at the time. I am hopeful to get an Equinox and see what it is all about. Seems like alot of hype that will be tough to live up to.

[@FindingAlabama]

Couldn't get past that iron audio on the max.. would love to see a test between the g2+ and nox in iron because I never had my hands on a g2+

[@thehuntergt]

Sorry just saw this one slipped by Rebel. The G2+ is a beast on iron...it probably hold it's own in a VS with the Nox.. It beats the F75 and T2 in iron. Only drawback is depth. If they made one with a boost of some sort I'd be in heaven.

[@KernowekTim]

@@thehuntergt Aye.

[@stevethompson1313]

Great video Huntergt. G2+ smokes that AT Max. Very impressive actually. I'll take one!

[@thehuntergt]

My pleasure! Thanks for watching and commenting!

[@Justdigit2]

By any change.... Would be great to see this test on a Rutus Alter 71

[@thehuntergt]

wackid Love to get my hands on one.

[@Metrorenovationsandmore]

Or the Notka Impact!

[@JonR35]

Running it at vol 10 so it silences iron and everything wide open will make the g2+ perform better

[@youdig-detection]

thanks for this test i was waiting for a nail test on the at maxx =) its got nailed lol.

[@thehuntergt]

Youdig It sure did. I actually expected it to do quite a bit better than this to be honest.

[@KernowekTim]

Hello there John, I watched this head to head video with interest ( I don't think I'd ever go with Garrett, even though the brand is long established, and revered by a great many, no doubt )... In this video you mention a less expensive means of applying a wireless headphone option to the G2+ etc, and said that you'd be doing a review on other audio options.... I totally realise that you are very busy, especially with rearing your children on your own ( I've been there my freind, believe me! ( My youngest son lives with me still, after 13 years since his Mum and I parted ), so having down time is a rarity. Anyways, do you think you will be able to do a review on the alternative wireless audio option as and when? I'm certain many of us would welcome stepping out of the expensive manufactures options, ie Z Lynk etc. Thank you. Regards, Tim.

[@thehuntergt]

I must be honest it is not in my "right away" pipeline or anything like that - but I do still want to crack that video out yes. So it will likely be coming sometime in the next many months.

[@linr2870]

I bought a new At Max and it drove me nuts jumpy signals and squeeking all the time.. Tried everything changing gain,threshold,frequency,descrim and sens. It still would not shut up, no EMI and no cells phones around either. Finally sent it back to get a new coil and head re-calibrated, nothing worked sold it a a huge loss as used. I will say their customer service ppl are fantastic. It is just ashamed the machine wasn't quality controlled better before going out. The AT Pro is a much quitter machine if you want a submersible. I love the G2+ with big coil.

[@thehuntergt]

I have nothing bad to say about their customer service. Top notch for sure...treated me well more than once. I spent enough hours with the AT Max that I knew it would not be for me. Thankfully the dealer took it back and all was well in the world again.

[@linr2870]

@@thehuntergt Agree! As they are now I would not have another one.

[@65zxc]

What big coil do yo use?

[@briangaston7008]

Hey what's up Hunter GT? Love your videos by the way, I have a ?, i was wondering if you could send me a link to the wireless Bluetooth that turned any metal detector into wireless audio. Thanks in advance.

[@thehuntergt]

Here is the one I use on Amazon. amzn.to/3jX6FJa (Note: I make a profit from this affiliate link)

[@MrTsukurou]

Hunter... I have mad respect for your knowledge for detecting and First Texas equipment. For the love of all things good man... EARPHONE WARNING!!! Having never swung a Garrett anything, I am slightly glad for that. The audio tones alone make the G2 a more favorable detector. But.. haters gonna hate.

[@thehuntergt]

MrTsukurou Yeah I probably should have placed a headphone warning. My bad. Sure is a hellish sound.

[@jaccodeweger7604]

Great video!

[@thehuntergt]

Jacco de Weger Thanks Jacco!

[@udadventures1335]

Hey Hunter quick question. G2+ or Omega 8500.. help

[@thehuntergt]

I much prefer the G2+. While the Omega has a ton more options for tones and volume...the G2+ is one of the best detectors I've ever used in trash.

[@jerseydigmore7994]

Oh my !!!!! I am very surprised on the results of the MAX !!!! Do you plan on testing the Minelab Equinox??? What is the difference between the G2 + & the T2+ ??? Nice job making the video!!!

[@thehuntergt]

Jersey Digmore I am hoping to test the Equinox yes. See if it is all it is cracked up to be. Can't say much on the T2+ until release sorry. Hope you understand. I can say the T2 platform is a bit deeper and faster. The G2+ more sensitive to mid conductors...especially small stuff. Both great in nails... however the G2+ is the winner there.

[@TheCleanist]

awesome video....

[@cutsilver3650]

The Horror. Had a G2 and it was horrible on sites with larger iron(bigger than nails). At Pro faired better there in as far as id’ing it. G2 woud give good tone on it. Can say I would take the G2+ over pro or max on most any other site based in ergonomics and your testing.

[@thehuntergt]

Large iron can be pretty tricky for some machine..that is for sure. I do feel the AT Pro actually sounds better than this Max. Not a fan of this crackle-pop sound at all. The original G2 was a single tone machine like the Gold Bug Pro. Made for prospecting mostly. The plus adds a Vbreak and iron audio that really helps in bad iron spots.

[@horseman528]

Garrett's usually don't have very good target separation. Iron will mask a lot of coins with those Garrett machines. I don't understand why their people at Garrett can't address that in their making of the machines. I don't whether they don't have the knowledge to do it or just don't care.

[@thehuntergt]

A good question. It is baffling they cannot seem to figure it out as well as the competitors. Even the new Ace APEX is slightly behind in my personal opinion.

[@xxzombiepepperxx]

hey Hunter love all the Vids ....Do the F19 PLEASE!!!

[@thehuntergt]

Thanks man! This G2+ is the F19...just with a different grip. :)

[@xxzombiepepperxx]

Got it I just saw your 6 detector Nail test Vid and am all smiles. I picked up the F19 for sale 449 and with a 10% discount also included a pouch and garrett pro pointer 2 .... I couldn't believe it. Sold the Propointer since I have 2 other pointers totaled out to about 300$ im so fricken happy best decision ever!!!

[@thehuntergt]

xxCrYpTo ZoMBiExx Hell of a deal man. One of the best detectors on the market for relic hunting and gold prospecting. Makes a damn fine gold prospecting detector as well. Best of luck and keep me posted how it works for you.

[@PAPAROUSwhatsinthedirt]

I had and garrett ace 350 was not impressed at all I live in the gold country northern California my bounty hunter discovery 2200 ran circles around the ace 350 it could not handle the soil conditions here.

[@thehuntergt]

Yeah not really a fan of the Ace series. The arm cuff and nose heaviness are bonkers. No idea how they got that so wrong. They absolutely suffer in bad soil more than other brands do.

[@petervandenbosch6353]

I started metal ddetecting with an Ace 250 an only used it for 2 months before i sold it. Do i have to say more ?

[@sdesic]

G2+ wins for sure. But you used Teknetics carton box! LOL My G2 will have all sounds even iron in disc 40 ... up to 50 I think then iron is not sounding.

[@thehuntergt]

sdesic Must be some heavy iron there. The Teknetics box is magic! LOL

[@sdesic]

it is always been like that DISC mode, all tones are audible

[@thehuntergt]

sdesic Ah yes...the G2 does not have the Vbreak and iron audio of the plus version.

[@KernowekTim]

Dropped back on this video out of interest. It's a bit sad in a way, for me. Why? Because Garrett have been in the business for an awfully long time, yet they have failed to deliver a $700 metal detector that can compete with a $250 metal detector, from the stable of a 'new kid on the block' in relative terms of time. That, is sad.

[@conan6908]

But if I was hunting on 33 discrimination with my Eurotek Pro 11" DD coil, I would be finding foil.

[@thehuntergt]

Prairie G ETP breaks iron at 40...so foil should not be coming in before that.

[@conan6908]

Guess it could be that I just need to go back and double-check. Maybe my other settings are off. Thanks for your info and the fact that you kind of alerted me to the possible mis-adjustment to my detector. Thanks again Hunter GT. Take care.

[@CJayC253]

If you deliberately did not put the disc. high enough on the Max, how is it a fair comparison? Run the nail test again with higher disc. (I personally keep my disc. maxed out) and then show us the results.

[@markhagopian3257]

I don't understand what that would do. Wouldn't that just make it impossible to hit that gold ring when you went over it.

[@thehuntergt]

Your right...it was not fair. I gave the AT Max a head start and it still lost the race. If I raised the disc higher it would have been dead silent on the zinc. I don't think you understand how this test works...raising the disc would defeat the purpose and be counter productive.

[@thehuntergt]

Not at all. The nail will down average the coin (or ring) on a Garrett bringing it closer to the nails ID. If I raise the disc I am going to be above the ID point of said object. Lower is better in this test.

[@livewithnick]

TheHunterGT then prove it to him

[@thehuntergt]

Heart of Dixie Relic Hunting I don't have time make proof videos for every little complaint. Nobody raises the disc on a nail test and gets better results. Not that I am aware of anyways....

[@cruzy1969]

g2-g2+ all day long

[@thehuntergt]

FISHER F75-GIBROCK Results are pretty clear cut here.

[@detectionduquebec5911]

Air test.. brand new nails.. different set up . Would need more to convince people. I wont make a video if you ask but woiuln,t be that kind.:-)

[@thehuntergt]

Feel free to make a video. No way the AT Max beats this in iron.

[@Metrorenovationsandmore]

Been 'tecting for 40 years. Never had a waterproof detector & never will. Will NEVER pay an extra 2 to 4 hundred bux for one no matter how inferior it is to my machines! Lol my next machine will be a Nokta Impact. Not waterproof but from ALL I've seen, it makes these AT's look like the toys I've always thought they were! Charles Garrett did A LOT for our hobbie but first was "treasure talk" then "treasure vision" now, the AT series. Sorry, not buyin' it and never will! (BTW... I was seriously looking at this G2 and the T2. The ONE thing that leaned me towards the Impact was the THREE selectable frequencies! (5khs. Deep Silver. 14 khz. General detecting. 20 khz. Gold, jewelry & relic hunting. Next!!)

[@Justdigit2]

Lol just keeps my laughing.... Why everybody buys a Garrett?

[@thehuntergt]

wackid I loved the Scorpion Gold Stinger...but the Pro and Max have been underwhelming to me.

[@bravobob1]

I'll give up my First Texas Products machine (Bounty Hunter) when they pry it from my cold dead hands.

[@thehuntergt]

bravobob1 Extremely hard to beat First Texas on price to performance.

[@jconis7401]

Great vid hunter, all the reasons why I DON'T buy Garrett Detectors. I'll stick with FTP. HH

[@thehuntergt]

J Conis Thanks Jeff. So far not terribly impressed with any of their offerings. My favorite by far was the Scorpion Gold Stinger of years past.

[@AuDHDRunner]

Good video. The Garrett needs a much slower swing even without iron if you want it to hit better. Still not going to come close to g2 in this particular test.