One caution on snap gauges: If you want them to last, don't let them snap open without being inside a bore. The little slot and pin that holds the anvils in place inside will eventually break, and the pieces will go flying across the room. When I'm done using mine, I always hold the anvils together with my fingers before I release the lock and let them expand slowly. I can't tell you how many broken snap gauges I've thrown away because of this.
@prodoverjeff28765 жыл бұрын
I bought a set of telescoping gauges at a used tool store years ago. No idea what they were, but they were cheap and I liked them. A few years later while reboring a screw machine turret, I needed a way to measure "how big?" Remembered those things, and figured using them and a mic would give me the info I needed. I thought I was a genius, then an old timer asked me what I thought those were built to do.
@iantheorem4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy hearing your little puns and silly banter. In the past 2 hours I have learnt so much from you.
@clydedecker7655 жыл бұрын
Quinn, I'm not a machinist and never will be but I'd send anyone to be your student/apprentice. Your explanations and treatment of difficult situations is superb. Thank you for sharing.
@griplove5 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! I’ve never used a depth mic and the way everyone explains them has made me delay getting one. This made perfect sense. Thank you, I learn so much from you. Also, let’s talk about you making me laugh. 5:48. 😂
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@haroldsolomon21103 жыл бұрын
@Matthias Garrett instablaster ;)
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@matthiasgarrett6693 жыл бұрын
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@haroldsolomon21103 жыл бұрын
@Matthias Garrett Happy to help :)
@britishreaction545 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you. An extremely lucid explanation of how to use a snap gauge.
@ctrchg2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jeffanderson16535 жыл бұрын
I’ve be darned, that’s how to use a snap gauge. Thank you. For hobby machinists like myself, we never had any formal training. I remember learning how to read a micrometer in metal shop but that’s the extent of it.
@Stellar123163 жыл бұрын
Please do not stop making videos your amazing! Cheers
@jorgeconcheyro5 жыл бұрын
Now I know why you have to go so light with the micrometer when measuring the snap gauge. Great video Quinn, cheers from Buenos Aires.
@machobunny12 жыл бұрын
This is an old video. Don't know if you'll ever see the comment, but THANK YOU. I am pretty smart, maybe, but I couldn't have ever just figured that out. Life Changing. Well...that part that's spent screwing up measurements.
@ninthm00n5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Quinn. Best explanation of the how and why of snap gauges I have seen. Love the depth Remix
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
It’ll be on my self-titled solo album, due out next year.
@ninthm00n5 жыл бұрын
Bandcamp.com/Blondihacks.
@michaeljohnson-li5nn5 жыл бұрын
Quinn, during my apprenticeship the lecturer who was explaining how to use the snap/bore gauges always referred to a technique called feathering. As you advised in your video it is best practice to ignore the ratchet mechanism and feel (feather) the micrometer anvils onto the snap gauge. One interesting technique that we apply at Rolls-Royce is Gauge R & R methodology. The R’s stand for Repeatability and Reproducability, this is where the technician who is measuring a feature repeats the same measurement a number of time to ensure accuracy of the reading. You can take this further and ask another technician to measure the same feature using exactly the same measuring equipment. In the ideal world all the measurements will be very closely grouped together. This can be used as part of the six sigma reporting technique to assess accuracy of your measurement process. Informative video as always.
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a great shop practice!
@britishreaction545 жыл бұрын
Rolls Royce ought to know I suppose. If they don't then no one does.
@peteroleary94475 жыл бұрын
R&R is integral to established quality management system audits for ISO 9XXX, QS, MIL, etc. The high-level audits consist of periodic double-blind tests of inspection operators to test the reliability of their measurement techniques. Bad scores could result in a loss of certification. In my many years in manufacturing, I have yet to see a production or receiving inspector perform in R&R as well as a typical Tool&Die Maker.
@Israkiwi993 жыл бұрын
while these snap gauges are good in general and explained perfectly here for perfectly accurate measurement it is better to use a dial bore gauge and i think a company like rolls royce would use nothing less.
@pilgrimm235 жыл бұрын
Thank you Quinn Great tip on using a snap gage.
@larryshaw7965 жыл бұрын
While I don't vise a depth that's that often I appreciate your refresher course on them.
@DEtchells2 жыл бұрын
Hah, another super-useful video! It’s funny, when I saw you starting to use the snap gauge, I thought “hey, wait a minute, she has that misaligned!” I figured you were going to just point out to us that you needed to hold it straight, but of course, we’d have no idea whether we had it exactly on-center or not. Duh! - just start high and move it *through* center and you’ll get the accurate measurement! Also an important tip about not counting on the stem-clamp to hold the pistons against arbitrary force from the mic. I’m gonna get out my snap gauge set and mic and so some practicing :-) (I’m also finally a Patreon supporter now; I’m a lottle ashamed by how long I’ve been freeloading 😔)
@markengineeringSA5 жыл бұрын
Another great video, Quinn , making workshop measuring a snap ☺️
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there. 😬
@marcmckenzie51105 жыл бұрын
Quinn, I wish I'd had these two segments on metrology in the shop when I very started. Lots of mistakes in junky measurement tools at the beginning. To the newbies out there, she's right - buy quality especially on your measurement tools. (I too skipped all the fancy dancy bore gages and other delights). And by the way, thanks for the awesome stickers!
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad they arrived! 😁
@derekwilkinson79395 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual Quinn. Cheers from the UK. 👍
@shaocaholica5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying these thanks.
@johnapel28565 жыл бұрын
Very good descriptions as usual. I have heard some bizzarre descriptions of snap gage use. I also now have an earworm. That's ok, it's a good song. Thanks and Meow.
@apyruite84935 жыл бұрын
The tutorial is good, the description is wrong. That's a telescoping gage @Blondihacks is using. Snap gages are a something different.
@johnapel28565 жыл бұрын
@@apyruite8493 yes, you are right. I misuse the term as do many. I guess it's just a colloquialism that we use to understand each other. "A telescoping gage? You mean a snap gage?" Well, no, but "Yeah."
@apyruite84935 жыл бұрын
@@johnapel2856 I get that. The problem, as I see it, is that in trying to understand each other better, you end up understanding each other worse. Things often become a _confusion of tongues_ rather than a Confucian _rectification of names_ . It's a philosophical position I apply to my craft.
@johnapel28565 жыл бұрын
@@apyruite8493, yep. I understand. I used to be half jokingly referred to as The Grammar Police by friends and acquaintances.
@rickpalechuk44115 жыл бұрын
Thanks Quinn, really enjoy your content. Cheers
@danedewaard82155 жыл бұрын
Those "Thumbs Downs" mean their "Thumbs Up" is somewhere else!!! Shame on them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for all your good work!
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
There’s always some people with nothing nice to say in this world. 🤷♀️
@kevinmartin77605 жыл бұрын
Another thing to ensure is that the snap gauge is straight when you measure it with the micrometer. The tip radii of the anvils will generally be smaller than the radius of the bore being measured so if the snap gauge anvils are not lined up with the micrometer anvils you will get a low reading.
@bostedtap83995 жыл бұрын
Excellent description, thanks for sharing.
@rpavlik15 жыл бұрын
Nice scriber, reminds me of the one clickspring made: did you follow his steps, or just coincidental resemblance?
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
I did in fact follow his steps! 😁
@daveys3 жыл бұрын
Let’s talk about depth baby! I felt that you were channeling This Old Tony there.
@paulmorrey7333 жыл бұрын
Thanks Quinn
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I didn’t say what the actual reading is during the depth micrometer demo. It’s 523.5 on that piece of brass. Also, one of the things you learn making (and watching) a KZbin channel is that there are often different regional names for things. Everyone I know calls these things snap gages, but others call them telescoping gages. The latter is probably a better name, since there is another unrelated thing called a snap gage. However, you should know that people call them by both names. Also commenters get really mad about this information for some reason. 🤷♀️
@pauls57454 жыл бұрын
I didn't like the idea of letting the anvils of the bore/telescoping gauge impacting the part. I always thought you should gently compress them to enter the part to not deform the inside surface.
@douglasharley2440 Жыл бұрын
5:47 spinderella, cut it up one _time!_ 🤣👍 salt-n-pepa reference *respect.*
@1tonygunalan2 жыл бұрын
Can you describe how to turn one end of a 1" iron bar onto 60° sharp point. Thank you Quinn.
@scottb62822 жыл бұрын
For an inside measurement where the surfaces are parallel, such as the bearing used in the snap gauge demo, would a vernier caliper give an accurate reading?
@madnessbydesignVria4 жыл бұрын
Have I never needed snap gauges, or have I never KNOWN I needed snap gauges... ? If I buy them, I guarantee I'll wonder why I never had them before... Excellent content, as always! :)
@RedDogForge2 жыл бұрын
"lets talk about depth baaby" for a split second quinn was channeling "this old tony" lol
@askquestionstrythings5 жыл бұрын
This was a good review for me with those "snap" gages. I'm wondering if I misunderstood the technique or if I was incorrectly taught how to use these as I always had issues with large variations in measurements on internal hole diameters.
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
Yah, they are tricky things, even with good technique. I hope this helped!
@1tonygunalan2 жыл бұрын
Am I misunderstood?
@curiousgeorge46082 жыл бұрын
For holes up to .5 inch I just bought a set of ChiCom gage pins. I figure they are still probably more accurate than I can measure.
@MaxWattage5 жыл бұрын
Is there any sensibly-priced way to measure the internal diameter of holes too small for a snap gauge? (e.g. 1/16" to 1/2" range) Precision Pin-Gauge sets are too expensive for the typical home-shop budget.
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
That’s a great question! If your precision needs aren’t super high, you can use the backs of drill bits or pieces of drill rod. They are not made to the same tolerances as gauge pins, but are often good enough. Failing that, you’re pretty much looking at investing in gauge pins. However, it’s not something that is needed all that often, so you can also wait. Small precision holes are generally made with reamers, so you can trust their dimension. You don’t need to check as you go as with larger holes that are bored.
@darwinsreptiles52125 жыл бұрын
@@Blondihacks You could also use a set of small hole gauges. www.starrett.com/metrology/product-detail/S829EZ
@OldtimeIronman5 жыл бұрын
Set of small hole Gauges or use the shank of a drill bit. If I need real precision, I can turn and polish some piece of metal down until it just fits, then mike that.
@nikolasimeunovic90865 жыл бұрын
Using drill bit end as measure gauge is very wrong. Drills usually have angle from cutting edge to the shank, to prevent it from jamming in the hole. That difference on shank is fairly huge for any precision work. Better use broken end mill shank or tap shank, they are made in tight tolerances and they arevery round.
@marcmckenzie51105 жыл бұрын
Quinn, I've gone mostly Mitutoyo like you have for metrology. I had tried to partner with Fowler, but they do not appear to have adequate vendor quality control on their Chinese hand tools and I got tired of bad calibrations, rusty fixtures, and a don't really care attitude. Starrett is of course great too, but depending on the item can be crazy pricey. All that said, last week I went out on a limb to try an HHIP pin gage set and was utterly delighted by what arrived. Their M1 and M2 sets, combined, for $163 with free shipping. That's every pin gage size from 0.061-0.250 (set M1), and 0.251-.500 (set M2). Their accuracy and variance calibrations were excellent, and random sample testing 10 pins were all in-spec. So I don't normally plug a brand, but for those who need more than drill bit or reamer bit accuracy, it's a great affordable option. By the way, I have the same Mitutoyo Snap-Gage set, and indeed they start at 0.500 in measurement capacity - so together with your caliper and micrometer, Quinn is right as usual!
@pauls57454 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd do a bit on calipers as they are useful measuring tools often used in conjunction with the tools you did cover. They come in inside and outside forms also and are the oldest family of measuring tools. by their simplicity, an antique set of them can be as accurate today as they were 75 years ago, even more so when used with today's measuring instruments
@billbaggins5 жыл бұрын
So.... upside down and backwards.. should be easy for us Aussies 😁
@yassinesaidi23383 жыл бұрын
5:51 I liked you videos baby and I have to learn more from you maybe 😉😁👍 Thanks for the video.
@videoworldgroup99973 жыл бұрын
Been loving all your videos. Just incase you trip across this post quick question. Are you running a OXA QCTP or a AXA? You links goto OXA QCTP and AXA tool holders. Sorry I know this is probably a stupid question
@roadkill53335 жыл бұрын
Lol on the Salt n Pepa reference!! It's DJ Machinederellas next hit "LETS TALK ABOUT DEPTH BABY"! Lololol!!!
@AkubraHatman4 жыл бұрын
Dumb question but where did you get your apron from? Cheers
@Blondihacks4 жыл бұрын
Check out my Anniversary Q&A video where I answer that question and more. 😀
@CraigLYoung5 жыл бұрын
I'm suprised you didn't show how to use inside and outside comparator. Mr. Pete just got some extra ones if you need a set but they are very useful in the home shop.
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
Yah, those would be great tools to cover in a future video!
@jeffanderson16535 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using snap gauges wrong. Thank you
@ukaszokapa67823 жыл бұрын
Damn! I seem to like your videos before you even say "Hello Internet" :P hahaha
@borismatesin5 жыл бұрын
That one dislike is someone who measures precision in furlongs.
@OldtimeIronman5 жыл бұрын
Was gonna say, you should send that dull shell mill to Steve Summers, I bet he could sharpen it right up, he would probably make a video of it
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
I should do that! 😁
@rynohorn38195 жыл бұрын
4:36 paused now i see how to hold a mic. Never sinks in
@1ton4god5 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir cuz I never noticed that till you pointed it out. That would be pretty cool to hold it that away leave your fingers free to turn it down. When I've used them on the engine block stuff in the past I've always just put them in the holder
@mcskifter2 жыл бұрын
No Jo blocks?
@robertlark71565 жыл бұрын
As always excellent content and explanations. Would have liked for you to have actually read the depth micrometer. Although your explanation was great, a closeup of the mic and your stating the reading would have been beneficial. I always tell my trainees to "read what you don't see. Agree with others that the correct terminology is "telescoping gage" not "snap gage". Interestingly Starrett has, over the years, changed their name of the depth tool from "micrometer depth gage" to "depth micrometer".
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
Yes, sorry, I should have done that! The reading was 523.5, for anyone who missed it.
@9A4GEMilan5 ай бұрын
Looking at all that imperial measuring feels weird to me. I am using only metric measurement here in Europe (Croatia). Pretty confusing.
@eddietowers55955 жыл бұрын
👍
@roadkill53335 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the notification that this was loaded 14 hrs ago!! I see there is already 2200+ views!! If I do a little quick math,........................................................you will be a top KZbin billionaire in about 2weeks, give or take! I may be off a half a thousandth of a point, or two!! Will you be going to Disney world? Any plans to get us all T-shirts? Tell Mickey (don't ask me how I know how to spell that!! Why, because I watched the show) HEY from me!!
@DavidLindes4 жыл бұрын
5:55 (from 5:46) - what are you doing? I dunno... making us laugh? :D
@mrhung92445 жыл бұрын
I want to buy T.. where I can to buy it
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
There is a link in the description.
@mrhung92445 жыл бұрын
@@Blondihacks I from Viêt Nam ..a can't speak Enghlis ..how much is T? please!
@sharkrivermachine5 жыл бұрын
I have been a machinist for over 40 years and I still have to think twice when using a depth micrometer. LOL It is upside down and backwards!
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad it’s not just me. 😅
@sharkrivermachine5 жыл бұрын
@@Blondihacks Anyone that is honest about it has fouled up more than once.
@turningpoint66435 жыл бұрын
@@Blondihacks Very well explained and all of it I wish had been available to me 40 years ago. There expensive (of course) and while I had the same Mit depth mic set you do Quinn I finally threw some bucks at the issue. ecatalog.mitutoyo.com/Depth-Micrometer-Series-329-Interchangeable-Rod-Type-C1140.aspx No more issues with me forgetting about that hidden number. Once you've used one of these the analog type are so Y2K. :-) For some of us Mit digital equipment is like heroin though. :-(
@blahorgaslisk77635 жыл бұрын
@@sharkrivermachine I've not even used one and I feel anxious about having messed up... Watched the explanation about how to read it and that snap as I finally got it was almost painful. Still wouldn't trust myself around one...
@JorgenLarsson5 жыл бұрын
Salt-N-Pepa 😁
@Lucain242 жыл бұрын
Oh, hi me! I Quinn too! ;D
@jimsvideos72015 жыл бұрын
So what you're telling me is that a depth mic is pretty much just a terrible left-handed ID mic?
@Blondihacks5 жыл бұрын
Heh, kinda, yah. Any port in a storm, though. 😬
@jimsvideos72015 жыл бұрын
@@Blondihacks I kid, of course; I don't think I've ever had occasion to use one but I appreciate what they do and I'm glad you included them.
@andrewbrimmer1797 Жыл бұрын
Snap gauges look much easier that internal mics
@wescox27694 жыл бұрын
Depth mic. less barrel exposed, measurement is increasing. Not the way you said it, but the way I understood it.
@jerryshay2214 жыл бұрын
Did you have a "AvE" moment¿ Shame Shame! LoL
@callieraine87198 ай бұрын
Quinn, do you weld? I can't find any welding videos on youtube that explain things the way you do. Other videos i feel like im trying to put a puzzle together.