Silky Smooth Telescopic Bore Gauges

Crunchy bore gauges? Here's the fix.

[@lotharerkens8154]

Now that you've de-burred them, they're only "Brown". You have removed the "Sharp". Just sayin...

[@ambsquared]

More a gray than brown. Person who named them must be color blind.

[@ErikBongers]

Well what do you know, I came up with the same joke. So, we're both geniuses.

[@Nevir202]

You comment right here. 🤣

[@LynxSnowCat]

@@ambsquared give it time.

[@BoldUniverse]

So now it's the "Brown and Blunt" set of Telescoping gauges?

[@geneharrogate6911]

My dad was a toolmaker. When I was a kid I found his bag of gauges, similar to this, took them to my room and painted them to look like tiny robots that could punch each other. At least he sees the funny side of it now. About forty years later..

[@ATrustInThrust]

Oh lord

[@Ferndalien]

I'll bet he was hoping you'd develop a different kind of interest in his tools.

[@nar76109]

😂😂😂Like scrubbing a cast iron skillet or Brillo pad scrubbing a car to clean it. Best of intentions, but oh boy.

[@mrjp2149]

What? Your dad doesn't like robots?

[@bobjames6284]

It's always a tragedy when a good instrument dies. When I was about ten, my uncle gave me a vernier caliper (in fractional inches, no less) and my Mom insisted that my dad grind the points off the nibs. We lied to her and said he had, and fifty years later I still have it. Machinists are kinda nerdy about stuff like that.

[@Tommy_Mac]

I used to try and use snap gauges for cylinder bore work. I used to ride dirt bikes. I could never get an accurate measurement either. I knew from my machinist training, that engine machinists have specialized bore gauges, but I couldn't afford those. I swallowed my pride and asked a guy at work. He had worked on radial aircraft engines at the Curtis Wright facility during WWII. He served in Korea. I always watched him real close, but he was kind of grumpy and intimidating. When I asked him about measuring these bores, he looked at me kind of funny, like I said something that smelled bad. He went and got a metal box he had squirreled away. He explained that trying to use snap gauges won't work. The wear patterns in the bore make an accurate measurement impossible. He told me to take his personal bore taper indicator. It's really old, but accurate. Let him know if it worked for me. This tool has a kind of 'sled' (not sure what to call it) that an indicator sits on. There are different length tips in this kit, that are used depending on bore size. A rod attaches to the device so it can be easily slid down the bore. I used it, figured out the proper dimension to bore it oversize. Worked great! The machinist, Donald Andrews (RIP), gave me the tool. I've used it countless times. He didn't think it was doing anybody any good buried in his tool box. I got to know him well after that. We became good friends. I get to tell this story about a quiet man that helped me out, every time I show that tool off.

[@williamensign1408]

Great story

[@shanek6582]

Take it apart in a gallon ziplock bag for when the springs go ballistic

[@lkw6640]

Shane K speaking of ballistic, one time I took apart a tool, not knowing there was a spring, and the thing exploded! I swear the spring and a few parts must of ended up in orbit and are there to this day because I've looked everywhere in my shop and can't find em.

[@mikecurtin9831]

That's a good tip. Thanks.

[@snakedike]

You sound like someone who has done some gun smithing.

[@matthewsimmons6831]

The problem is... I always pass out before I'm finished

[@davidkohler7454]

That's how I take apart certain gun bolts. Just to be safe cause the shag carpet in my shop has enough small parts hiding as it is. No really it's a good thing to do .

[@hussssshie]

We need more of this during quarantine. Please, God Tony.

[@leeterthanyou]

"God Tony" is a redundant statement; just call him Shop Jesus.

[@thunderstruck1078]

I'm confident that he was thinking about each one of us individually when he decided to record this one.

[@partimepool]

More auto related stuff pls.. TIA

[@a.g.k853]

@@leeterthanyou "I'm beginnin' to feel like a Shop God, Shop God"

[@rugger8787]

Edmond Belliveau i think he is bald

[@NoMoreUsersAvailible]

Hey This Old Tony: First of all - thank you! I basically got into metal fabrication and welding because of your videos. How about a shop tour video sometime?

[@sug0]

yes please

[@dizzolve]

Would love a shop tour. We don't need special edits for that. Just walk through sometime

[@house89147]

I have asked for this too, I'm told it may be on the books later. Interestingly Tony said he moves kit about a fair bit, so it feels like it needs to be more than just a shop tour and more of a tour and mindset /process path video.

[@backyardmachinist]

I second

[@aapokolhinen]

Million sub special shop tour sounds about right to me

[@sethmiller1357]

Pro tip, when the surprise shooting spring threat is high, disassemble within a clear plastic bag. The bigger the better because if you can keep your hands way down in the bag while you disassemble, the springs have further to shoot to escape the bag. Drape a shop rag over the opening, hold it close to your chest, or do something else to try to minimize the opening. One more pro tip for when you've already lost a part. Grab a flashlight and turn off the overhead lights. Get down on the floor and shine the beam nearly parallel to the floor. Any dust, dirt, chips, or parts you're looking for will now cast a very long shadow, making them easy to see. I think the beam also helps to focus your attention on a distinct area instead of taking in an overall picture. Try it, you'll be surprised how dirty your floor is.

[@drd1924]

Plastic bag!!! Well that's a great idea

[@colinfurze]

nowt wrong with carpet in the shop lol..........fancy eh.

[@jake8215]

😂🤣

[@joshuamcfarlane7884]

And good on the knees

[@haph2087]

@2aesthetic4me sss It is interesting. ToT has even made some videos with/about/for Furze.

[@marcellemay7721]

Those Brown n Sharp gages look like they were made in the same factory as the ones you got for your 4th birthday.

[@dlhunstad]

Looks like ?counterfeit? B & S

[@sblack48]

I think they are offshore BS for sure

[@EddSjo]

probably made with the same exact tools too. That's why the finish was so poor

[@recrdholdr]

With the same tooling and end mills LOL

[@Kc12v140]

I’m guessing counterfeit too. If they actually are real, that is some piss poor machining. I’d be pissed if I bought those I’d send them back

[@askquestionstrythings]

As I tell every new person in the shop, the difference between low quality and slightly better quality to good quality is if things are deburred. After deburring it's often all fit and finish. Good overview of this "deburring" of premium tools to make them work right... I think I will break mine down and give them a once over just for sanity sakes, and because TOT did it.

[@saltysteel3996]

It just feels weird when a This Old Tony video isn't 20 or 30 minutes long.

[@PassifloraCerulea]

I was expecting him to re-machine the arms seeing how atrocious they were. I guess even ToT has his limits when there's an actual job to do 😜

[@victorivansson3247]

Yeah, looked at the timeline to notice it was halfway done when i was gettin into ToT mode. Sooo i’ll be watching the other episodes, again, for the third/forth time.

[@MoTuuur]

Wierd times we live in man.... Wierd times

[@teamEP789]

or it doesn't involve cutting pipes with scissors, and kittens shitting nuts n bolts

[@MindBlowerWTF]

and isnt about tig welding

[@zachaliles]

A couple years ago I treated myself to a starrett 91B tap wrench. I'd been eyeing one for a while and finally pulled the trigger on one. It was brand new in the box still in the plastic bag. I was so excited I could barely contain myself. I brought it to work with me and wanted to try it so bad that I grabbed a piece of CRW (can't remember what) stock, drilled a tap hole and grabbed a tap. This is where my excitement died. I went to close the wrench on the tap and got a gut churning crunching sound from inside of it. I stopped what I was doing and took the wrench apart to find metal shavings all through the insides. It took me about an hour to clean them all out. It broke my heart to spend all that money on it just to have to pick up where they left off.

[@paulmoir4452]

I had to make a new anvil for mine when it cracked about 1 month after buying it. That was my first and last Starrett.

[@matthewdupuis232]

I have a Starrett automatic center punch that works about a third of the time. A good whack against the table usually gets it working the rest of the time. Pulling it apart shows nothing too obvious, but my Chinese one works flawlessly.

[@moparlarsson]

@@matthewdupuis232 Put more bend into the spring!

[@VorpalGun]

Wouldn't this be covered under warranty? Here in Europe that would be the case at least. Maybe it is different in US or wherever you are.

[@harlech2]

And this is why I only buy used tools. They are generally cheaper because they are 'used', but as a whole, older tools are much better made... back when people gave a hoot about what they were making.

[@RB0087]

TOT: "We need to do what Brown and Sharpe failed to do" ME: "Wow, Tony is going to teach us how to end a prolonged labor dispute without destroying the company, and in about a minute of remaining video!"

[@edstirling]

TIL about the longest-lasting labor strike in US history.

[@jsVfPe3]

He really is a master of his craft.

[@SethKotta]

That comment right there. Oof.

[@MatthewHolevinski]

@@SethKotta inorite, where is teh mic drop

[@gasfiltered]

Well, that would be an even shorter video. When you have a 100+ year-old company that is synonymous with quality precision instruments, you pay the people who make those instruments every penny they're worth and then some, even if it means your stock price dips for a month or two. People who need good instruments now go elsewhere at any cost and people like Tony will be one time customers, rather than the multi-generation customers B&S used to count on.

[@nilamotk]

"Uploaded 22 seconds ago" You're damn right I'm gonna drop everything I'm doing for a new tot video..

[@JoeDaMoeDoe]

you're goddamn right

[@brewandthecrew]

Did you say there's a new TOT video? I was very busy doing important things while working from home, but I'll set that all aside for some TOT! -- wait what day is it?

[@paulmanson253]

@@abu_khattab92 You are clearly someone who has been married for a while.

[@alysongr]

Hey @Coffee, manual sex doesn't count!

[@simonhopkins3867]

Whips screen with thumb but makes things worse... Sorry I couldn't help myself.

[@jimmydiresta]

Wow that’s crazy how unfinished those parts looked 😟

[@Mad.Man.Marine]

Right. It really is frustrating. You might as well buy cheap crap. Prob the same quality in finishing. Truly sad

[@LouSalamone]

I agree. That's disappointing. Maybe China ones are just as good.:(

[@JamesChurchill3]

@@LouSalamone As a new owner of some dirt cheap bore gauges, I can confirm this.

[@vaderdudenator1]

The cheap ones from HF were no worse

[@travishein]

"De burr those until you're happy, or you've given up" - I really like how realistic this is!! And can relate to it very well.

[@BronsonMWhite]

Tony, you're making me not want the quarantine to end. I'm loving the frequency.

[@pppaybackkk]

I used to tell seasons by ToT releases. This is screwing me up. It feels like Summer 2023 right now...

[@StefanGotteswinter]

Those look about as well deburred as the hardened Starrett combination square head that i got a few years ago new. I could shave with the edges on that thing.

[@2lefThumbs]

Then why didn't you Stefan? (Just kidding, my beard is longer than your stubble👍)

[@scottjones7279]

That is a shame. I have a set of Starrett snap gauges that are gritty also. I sent a brand new Starrett caliper back to the factory because the rack was made from two pieces and you could feel the transition between the two, could not stand it, it was better but not fixed when i received it back. I gave them away to a young man that was proud to own them.

[@joecnc3341]

I've noticed the same thing, Stefan. The quality just isn't the same any more. Unglaubisch bullenscheisse.

[@gatekeeper84]

@@joecnc3341 Everything is a kit nowadays.

[@mpetersen6]

My hardened Starrett is just fine. But then I got it 1974 or 5. Had to wait about 6 months for them to come up in the production rotation. As to the telescoping gates. I've always thought they should have a bigger radius on them. Maybe a drilled out steel ball.

[@TizonaAmanthia]

watch out for the "springen-sproingen."

[@aussiebloke609]

and the partzgerflingen

[@drpoolshooter]

This old Swedish Chef.

[@prodoverjeff2876]

I bought a set at a used tool store years ago, no idea what they did. A few weeks later at work, I needed to figure a bored ID, not my usual kind of machining, and it occurred to me these things would work. Yep they worked. An old timer told me that is exactly what they were made for so he was less impressed with my brilliance than I was!

[@natelav534]

Only a machinist would buy a set of tools just because theyre old and well made even if they have no idea what they do. He who dies with the most and highest quality tools wins the game of life.

[@Bbeaucha88]

Problem is that I don't keep any light oil around. I tried switching to light oil but my family just doesn't like the flavor as much as a full fat oil.

[@WeighedWilson]

I had some but my lights need a lot of it and I've used it all up.

[@mpetersen6]

@@WeighedWilson I solved that. I just use dark oil

[@BrooksMoses]

@@WeighedWilson : Yup, just can't get proper whale oil these days for the lamps.

[@splugen]

I only have headlight oil sitting around

[@ferrumignis]

@@BrooksMoses Whale oil beef hooked.

[@555_Kochi_STi]

Surprisingly, there’s little difference between being happy and giving up.

[@Hopeless_and_Forlorn]

Great call, TOT. I have a set of Tee gauges I bought over fifty years ago, and I always assumed the crunchiness was just a manifestation of interference between the spring coils and keepers. Now I know it can be fixed. I plan to clean them with mineral spirits, as alcohol has suddenly become precious in my house.

[@stocktonnash]

You listening Brown & Sharp?! You’ve been called out! Shots fired by my boy Tony. And he always shoots true.

[@bennyfactr6122]

The real story here is someone actually measuring piston/bore clearance on a 2-stroke.

[@perrylc8812]

When I had my old HD I used a tape measure for.

[@ferrumignis]

@@perrylc8812 You must have had a precision built HD. Usually just rattle the piston about in the bore and think "that'll do" 😄

[@aidangillett5396]

eh, who cares. With modern Nikasil bores they rarely wear and when they do wear enough there's a ridge at the top thats enough to catch a fingernail on. The coating is very thin, any serious damage is noticeable with the eye

[@whatelseison8970]

I just took the head off mine and mashed a sheet of foam down on it then measured the imprint. Turns out the 80cc bicycle engine I bought was really 200cc's! Until I remembered it's pi*r^2 not pi*d^2.

[@johnbutler5650]

Aidan Gillett seems like I ran into a company that could reapply the nikasil coating on 2stroke cylinders. They specialized in old Yamahas , but I don’t think they were too picky about it.

[@MyClutteredGarage]

Always amazing content. Even unrehearsed while wearing one shoe. My channel is growing slowly but surely, thanks to your inspiration!

[@Lavasioth]

Wait, you narrate these LIVE?! Dude, your commentary is so tight I thought you had to be doing like a scripted dub pass over your videos. You're a freaking super hero.

[@billkillernic]

Well it's actually easy if you know what you are doing (havent tried it as in making youtube videos myself but noticed when I explain something, how it works etc) this is also how I choose to look "how to" or other sort of technical videos if it is dubed/scripted I assume that the one making the video doesnt really know what he is doing and just googled the basics for the topic of his video.

[@regscriven]

Had a set of moore and wright telescopic bore gauges they served me well for 30 years.they were second hand when i got them ,probly made in the 1940s keep up the good work

[@CobraDBlade]

That crunchy sound hurt my soul and my teeth somehow.

[@qvatch]

It was not ASMR that is for sure.

[@ddavies12345]

Every other TOT video: Here's a quick tip... 26 minutes later. I feel like I've been cheated out of 20 solid minutes of meandering around said quick tip on this one. I have no recourse but to pull out my bore gauges and a stone. In protest.

[@150flyer4]

TOT I want my money back on this episode!! You brought back one of those suppressed memories of mine. I was training a newbie on how to measure a bore. The first few measurements went fine, but then the lock got really tight on them. With some decent effort, it freed up. Unfortunately they didn’t realize that just the tip is the lock and inadvertently loosened the handle shaft. The proper term for the “plungers” are “projectiles”. After that, it was just one of those bad days. To account for all the parts, I took apart another gauge to see what was in it. I can’t ever use my gauge set without noticing that two of them have different thread sealant on the handle shafts. You made me go look at them just so I could shake my head again.

[@bigbadwolf1966]

I follow way too many channels, but TOT always grabs my attention first. It's got to the stage that is 3rd season re-runs from the start in preference to watching new content on other channels . You sir are what all educators, lectures and teachers should aspire to be, informative, educational, entertaining and able to hold the attention of your audience. Stay safe mate, you improve the lives of 793k people on this Earth.

[@jbrentmac4337]

“Shame we have to do this to ‘premium’ tools”. I bought a brand new set of B&S parallels- had to grind the 1/2” pair so they’d match. A brand new pair of B&S v-blocks I had to grind one side to put the vees on center. Went from referring to Brown and sharpe as B&S to just BS!

[@dangrimes5078]

Were both V blocks off center by the same amount? What made you check to see if they were on center to begin with?

[@Echris21]

You probably ordered a set of perpendiculars accidentally.

[@davel6683]

B&S just isn't what they used to be. They lost quite a few of their older established skilled craftspeople during a labor dispute in the early 80's and it was more or less downhill from there.

[@evilbrat5376]

Learning that you can pull these bore gauges apart and clean and do "Minor" rework on them. . . thanks! Now to go get some and see what needs to be done!

[@heyallenify]

I was just thinking the same thing. I have a set of pure Chinesium bore gauges from Harbor Freight that could do with having a bit of poking and polishing...

[@paulpurczynski6218]

So glad you took on this small project, I have wanted to attempt it in the past every time I reach for mine. Now I feel I have what it takes to be successful. Thank you Tony!

[@hillbillybuzzplays7592]

I am a blacksmith (advanced hobbyist) but your videos over the years have opened up a whole new dimension to my home-work-hobby Thank you very much, Sir.

[@lopermachine]

Just grabbed a shirt, trying to support the KZbin creators that I enjoy the most.. your one of them!

[@streddaz]

Someone once told me that This Old Tony’s videos were boring, I said, Yes, yes they are. You can now even measure how boring to a precise measurement 👌🏼

[@kellerrobert80]

This video was burring.

[@asherdie]

@@kellerrobert80 so he could do boring

[@GruesomeJeans]

You know, one thing I love about the videos you make is the tools you use. Back in a Small Engine class in highschool, we learned about these various measuring tools while we learned about tearing down a single cylinder Briggs motor, and reassembling it. I haven't touched, nor heard anything about the bore gauges in years. Back then I wasn't too keen on learning anything so I never fully understood how to read an analog Micrometer but seeing this has brought back those memories and kind of makes me want to buy some of these just to measure random stuff around my home.

[@roberthaglund7835]

This video couldn't have come at a better time for me. Just got a set second hand with some surface rust and tried to tear into them...knew they come apart, but was afraid of bending/breaking them. Thanks This (not so) Old Tony...you are a scholar and a gentleman.

[@kiwidonkeyk1656]

Isolation beginning to bite huh? Stripping and filing bore gauges . Same here, screw boxes in order, argon bottle finally strapped to bench, hell I've even swept the floor!

[@MindBlowerWTF]

But did You sweep behind the press?

[@f.d.6667]

You could also order your gas cylinders alphabetically, once your are *really* bored: Argon, acetylene, carbon dioxide...

[@DavidWalling]

I had to finally sweep last week. Finally got tired of climbing up into the shop.

[@sylrobitaille]

F. D. Um ... Acetylene *before* Argon ... 👍

[@Ropetangler]

@@f.d.6667 You had better check your alphabet, Acetylene comes before Argon;-))

[@hansangb]

LOL. I just said out loud (gasped really) "oh! Tony Video" and my family looked at me funny.

[@davegraham2009]

I just bought a new set of gauges and they're super crunchy. Thanks for the tips, going to fix them now!

[@liononline84]

Tony, I like the way that you think, organize, investigate, analysis, process and explain. 👍 For Tony.

[@kendesign3622]

Tony, you where so close. The tee part is called a Boonsie swoop and the handle insert is called a Jutnumb bar. 👍

[@halifaxmax5039]

Thanks Ken! We need to preserve these industry names, otherwise we look like idiots trying to explain to the wife why it took two beers, I mean HOURS, to *fix* our precision whatsidoodles.

[@terryisaac8195]

Careful about the language...this is a sorta family garage channel. Talk about repairing your precision personal whatsadoodie with the reverence it deserves!🤪😁😲😄👽👍😎

[@shawnhuk]

It's sad how poor the quality is on many good names in tools these days... I've even seen Chinese Starrett tape measures recently... Sad.

[@TrevorDennis100]

I made the same point in another comment. Chinesium tools are not the greatest, but, for the most part, they are perfectly usable, and orders of magnitude cheaper than the likes of Starrett and Brown & Sharp. So the big names have to cut production costs to stay in business. I mentioned Stanley with their mexico production plant. Stanley tools are not what they used to be, but with a wee bit of a fettle they can be.

[@davidpook5778]

I was recently shown the faces of the anvils on new Starrett micrometers using optical flatness, they aren't flat!

[@jimc3688]

@@aserta B&S was a pillar of machines and tools in Providence for decades until the 1970s. Where the domestic and European competition got fierce. Margins slowly and surely went down and CEOs made some bad decisions. Japan quality started to rise. Labor union issues and cost of living kept rising. Don't forget that B&S was a fierce competitor and may have caused the demise of many machine tool companies itself. There is customer loyalty but when another product at half the cost does the job then you can't compete. Just my 0.02.

[@jimc3688]

P.S. My unknown vintage Starretts work just fine.

[@coalitionofrob436]

More sad, some of the Chinesium is actually acceptable.

[@arturbaleja3907]

Thanks a lot for these videos. You singlehandedly made taking my courses in technology and metrology on university a couple of times easier

[@tobydulanski9480]

Thank You!!! I’ve had a set for quite a while and have wanted to smooth them out to perform better. Hats off to you good sir for this demonstration on safe disassembly. 👍👍👍👍👍

[@LobbySeatWarmer]

Premium precision instruments: now shipping with free KZbin channel content ideas.

[@stanmacdonald1073]

I wish I watched this earlier. You have to try to post your videos before I need them. I mean, how hard can it be. I bought a set of telescoping bore gauges from perhaps Enco some 10 years ago when I was first starting to throw my son's inheritance into this hobby. About a month ago I was annoyed by the "crunchiness" of their action so it took to disassembling one to see what I could do to fix the problem. Well, needless to say, I didn't pull up the carpet in my garage and now I have fo find a home for 16 boxes of spring wire and time to learn how to wind springs.

[@bid6413]

Tony, Glad to have you bring this up and what the fix is. I’ve owned a Starrett set for years and thought all telescoping gauges were “crunchy.” Crazy. Be well, Will

[@ambiention]

Never in my life do I anticipate using the information I have learned today. Great video.

[@ambiention]

@Dan K very much

[@ilikecereal156]

Do I know what a bore gauge is? No. Will I watch the video? Absolutely.

[@maximelenfer6280]

I just told my girlfriend "tot upload a new vid, talk you later, love you!" I've the proof😭😂

[@gearloose703]

Proof as her reply lol

[@evolati12]

Well let’s see/hear it?!

[@TrevorDennis100]

@@gearloose703 I was thinking more like proof as a black eye.

[@ianpendlebury3704]

Don't you mean your ex-girlfriend?

[@michaelsebastian9638]

Best Present ever. You posted this on my Birthday. After dealing with NO ONE because of the current Blah blah blah, I got this!!! Love your vids Tony. Admittedly I have watched all your videos. Thank you for the teachings and the laughs.

[@iankennedy1729]

I've had this problem for years but never had the khunas to take them apart. I'd used expensive ones supplied by employers and when I became a contractor I bought cheap (ish) Draper ones and assumed the roughness was "built in". I think the roughness also affects the operation to a degree, so now I will attack the little beggars, Thanks! PS. I shall slightly warm the thread-lock as that reduces the chances of damaging the parts especially the small ones. Please keep the great videos coming I've loved them all,

[@SteveGilbertson]

2:28 And here I imagined ToT ASMR was a patreon exclusive.

[@97SEMTEX]

Its better than his only fans exclusives to be fair.

[@chazphot]

Did you predict the future here....

[@SteveGilbertson]

@@chazphot It literally happened haha. Perhaps he saw my comment but that was a quick turnaround!

[@sweetkellymay]

"First the corona virus, now I have to rip up the carpet in my garage.." Colin Furze 2020..

[@marcmckenzie5110]

Just checked... my Mitutoyos are “Silver & Smooth”. Your video has belatedly relieved my premium purchase guilt! Thanks TOT!!

[@tomcraven47]

Just want to say I really appreciate these shorter and more often "update" video during this lock-in.

[@askquestionstrythings]

wow, this is the earliest I've been to TOT in a while

[@erickleinwolterink3524]

Quarantine things

[@EDesigns_FL]

Thank you for showing how to disassemble them. Mine have always bothered me, but I was reluctant to take them apart because I didn't know the procedure. I'm guessing that Mitutoyo telescopic gages are better, but they are also $170 for a six piece set.

[@karlkunkle9233]

E Designs my new set of mitutoyo are just as crunchy, was severely disappointed.

[@mikenewman4078]

@@karlkunkle9233 That is interesting, maybe manufacturing has moved from Taiwan to wherever is the cheapest this week.

[@EDesigns_FL]

@@karlkunkle9233 I'm surprised to hear that. I have the utmost respect for their products. You saved me some money, and I don't blame you for being disappointed ;-)

[@Realtime1501]

Surprisingly insize are well finished

[@eatenkate]

The amount of joy i derive from learning about deburring bore gauges is inversely proportional to the chance of me ever needing them. Such is the magic of ToT.

[@Davefromwisconsin]

I bought a set from harbor freight. After trying them only once with no good results I threw them in back of a drawer never to be seen again until I watched abom79 using them on a video. He, by far has the best method of using them with repeatable results I’ve ever seen. Now, thanks to him I didn’t waste my money. They were also very gritty feeling. I took em apart and cleaned em up and now they’re a good, frequently used tool. Finally, I can cut some precise bores.

[@dirtdevil70]

As simple as those things appear to be, I’m surprised he didn’t just fire up the lathe and make his own set from scratch. Future video maybe?.

[@somebodyelse6673]

It's the chrome plating. He could easily make a nifty set if he cared to spent the time, but they'd rust because blueing isn't gonna get it for that kind of tool, and for some reason nobody even entertains the option of nickel plating even though its dirt simple and effective.

[@rotorhead5826]

@@somebodyelse6673 Hard Chrome plating (not just "flash chrome") beats the hell out of nickel plating as far as wear resistance is concerned. FWIW, Starrett telescoping gauges aren't plated or stainless. They are made of tool steel though, likely containing a fair bit of either chromium or nickel. (They will rust, but not easily.)

[@HanstheTraffer]

I'm still waiting for the diy gauge block video.

[@Warriorcat49]

Also oil is a thing that exists still.

[@davidmarshall2399]

I too was amazed. Not what I have come to expect from this channel. He should also build many additional jigs and tools to build them.

[@tinncan]

Do they still lock firmly or did you just make another set of slippy gauges? What makes the other set slip?

[@dimitar4y]

tinncan is the real MVP asking the real questions instead of subtly brainwashing "premium vip deluxe expensive items gooood, china baaad"

[@TheMetalButcher]

I've got an ancient pair of snap gauges that are well built, but they still slip if you try to use a ratchet thimble or clutch on the mic. The trick is just not to do that lol.

[@rotorhead5826]

The locking pin dimensions likely determine how well they lock. If the point of the pin is too short, the smaller rod won't lock unless you tighten the piss out of it.

[@snaplash]

Seems to me that the roughness would help them lock.

[@Fe7Ace]

Yeah, I thought the rough finish might actually be intended on the floor of the keying slot at least, if that is smooth and the whole thing is oiled as well I can see it needing a serious tighten to hold properly.

[@tovaxnecro123]

Tony is the only channel I can hit like while watching the opening ads. It’s always good

[@sim-onjdm55]

i am not into machining or welding but from the day that your vids start pop up on my feed i realy enjoy watching them. good job and keep going with the vids

[@smorris12]

The B&S's sound like my cheapy Chinesium set.

[@ferrumignis]

My cheapy Chinesium set has both sets of problems, don't lock properly without insane levels of force, and the plungers are crunchy.

[@Mtematiks]

For sure will skip this brand! ONLY OLD TOOLS, like TOT :))))

[@QuadMochaMatti]

How are we to know with certainty that the B&S instruments aren't also made there?

[@pekkasaarinen2902]

Nowadays, they probably are just the same. Just labelled differently.

[@mackk123]

@@QuadMochaMatti if they work smoothly lmao

[@fpvdarktim]

Finaly the weekend makes sense.

[@stevebonser4414]

I would just go back to the tried and true.. I have the exact same set in the blue vinyl case and they have worked great for 30 years. In this time of covid 19 your videos are goto vids for virtual school. Great job!

[@tracylemme1375]

I have used my Starrett “snap gages for over 50 years. I seem to remember doing something similar to them when I first got them. They have been invaluable.

[@Taykorjg]

"How ragged that slot is" I thought this was a good christian channel

[@bennydesign]

Why does my brain keeps repeating the word "Mitutoyo" over and over again?? Oh .. it wants me to be happy ;)

[@davidb6576]

I was thinking the same. I have two sets, Starrett and Mit, and the Mitutoyo is what I reach for every time. I want to love Starrett, but they're just not made as well as they used to/should be.

[@kosir1234]

@@davidb6576 how accurate do you think you can be with this gauges(mitutoyo)? i am in the market for something to measure bores, hobby ofcorse :D

[@mulletjocks]

@@kosir1234All inferred/transposed measurements are up to the skill of the operator, but second hand Mitutoyo set in good shape will last your lifetime.

[@dido1803]

Great recommendation for fixing. I have encountered this problem before, now I know what to do to fix. Thanks Tony.

[@ATrustInThrust]

I have older pairs of starrett and lufkin snap gauges, and they’re awesome. The fit of the plungers in the cylinders is much tighter than most other ones I’ve encountered in my high school and college shops. A big difference between the good ones and the crappy snap gauges is also the quality of the knurling, most poor quality versions just can’t get a good sharp knurl, but better tools usually have a nice looking knurl. Definitely wish there was actually a good set of these still available, for any price. It’s like you can either have crappy snap gauges, or extremely expensive sets of tri mics

[@tobyw9573]

I have an old set of Starretts bought new, with essentially the same problems. I may use this opportunity to smooth things out. Wonderfully nice hardened materials, but really notchy to use. Usually engine builders use feeler gauges to check piston clearances. You should know where on the piston the mfg wants you to measure the clearance since pistons expand from uneven heating when in use. Air cooled cylinders may be choke-bored to allow for combustion chamber heat in the upper cylinder. Instructions for fitting new pistons to a cylinder on your engine would likely do just fine. Make sure to check end-gaps on piston rings to match cylinder bore so they are not too tight.

[@MrRadioGypsy]

Was there any 'brown' in there that needed to be dealt with - too? Having brown stuck in a tube is always a problem.

[@gorak9000]

Heh, you beat me by 41 minutes :(

[@raymondmucklow3793]

Finally up close, I get to see what Abom pulls out of his pocket and peels/pulls down( like he is about to break into a dance) out of a part. Then magically has a measurement. I knew I could count on you. Stay healthy and acne.

[@scottstarling247]

You do a great job of explaining the problems so many people overlook, such a great teacher. Thanks T.O.T.

[@Mdub_actual]

I don’t know I you can hear what I’m feeling 🤣

[@feynthefallen]

Eerie. Just this afternoon, I thought to myself, "I wonder how these work inside" Was that premonition or coercion? And on whose part?

[@AdventureUwe]

Always a pleasure watching your videos! Knowledge combined with humor is best for good entertainment!!! Love it!!!

[@dariend6368]

I've just deburred my non sharp and a little brown set!!! Mine actually work as well as your expensive set!!! Thank you sir!!!!

[@skylark4901]

I could feel them with my ears, and it tickles, stop it!

[@jmtx.]

Says Sharpe right on the package. Guess you were after the Round and Smoothe model.

[@flyingdevin1]

Ya, get the Brown and Smooth next time. Feel like there is a joke here.

[@arnljotseem8794]

Thanks Tony for venturing into the unknown for us. Now I'm doing this to my all cheap import telescopic gauges. Want to get rid of the crunch

[@Awkward_Fox]

having had to use these in aviation maintenance, same brand, I feel your pain, and now i know how to fix them when i finally get a set of my own

[@RichardBronosky]

0:02 "Just the tip and only for a minute."

[@stonecraft745]

"Trying to measure my cylinder wear" thats what she said.

[@justinmaynard890]

TOT. Your videos sure are a blessing during lockdown. Thanks and stay safe!!

[@chrislee7817]

Keeping us sane in these strange times. Thanks tot. Looking forward to the bike cylinder adventure, I'm doing the same on my son's honda dominator.

[@Maxdubi]

I’ll be back again to read the comments about 6:11

[@GregsGarage]

I've always wondered how you can get an accurate bore reading with gauges that are flat and not round or pointy??? Maybe we need to investigate this!!!

[@brianhaygood183]

The ends of these gauges are rounded

[@northwind7409]

I stopped the video half-way through and went down to the shop. My Chinese gauges sounded just like your B&S ones. I'd gotten a set made in Japan, probably when I got the Swedish lathe. Most of those are quite smooth, but a couple had a bit of catch to them. Added a project to the isolation list. Thanks, Tony.

[@gabidan]

This Old Tony, now that I must stay home, I would say I'm watching way too many of your videos (and I was already a big fan). Anyways, this one is timely as I happen to have telescopic gauges on my desk and needed to find a way to make them repeatable and steady for one of my jobs. H6 here we come!! Thank you :)

[@LazyLifeIFreak]

So you're saying, we should not trust tools just because its a name brand? That branded tools might be garbage? *Gasp* I was lied to!

[@IVIenac3]

what used to be good years ago, might not be good today... sadly.

[@unclemuir]

Should have bought Starret. Mine are silky smooth.

[@yvestrudel2591]

Uncle Muir , yes they are smooth and tight but take care, they rust easily. The best are Mitutoyo, you get what you pay for with them.

[@markferrari9734]

My Mitutoyo set is silky smooth also. A little cheaper then starret. Good bang for the buck.

[@feez357]

I also have an old Starrett set that I have been happy with. I'm guessing they are 30 - 35 years old. I think the age is critical on American made stuff, the older the better.

[@TrojanHorse1959]

Great video, problem solving, and advice, thank you! May you, your family & friends, be safe and healthy!

[@AndersonPrototypes]

Hey Tony, that broke my heart to see the inside of a brand new set of American bore guages. I bought Mituitoyo bore guages some 30 years ago and have worked like champ. Granted I own a machine shop and they are kept clean all the time, you would never be able to guess how old they were.