Metal Planer Restoration 44: Cutting Gear Teeth on the Horizontal Milling Machine

[@pilgrimm23]

Thanks Kieth showing Physically how it is done.

[@larryblount3358]

'Need to get larger screwdriver'. Then you see a screwdriver that is as old as Keith. Just proves taking care of tools they can last many lifetimes. I treasure every time I pick up a tool that was my father's or grandfather's for a job!

[@staciedziedzic8706]

I love nothing more than watching gears being cut and milling! This video is right up my alley! Great job! I know that this video is from a year ago but nonetheless still awesome!😁

[@butchdodds4530]

I am not a machinist, but I really enjoy your videos. Thank you very much for explaining everything you are doing so even I can understand it. Thanks again.

[@MrPatdeeee]

"Absolutely Brilliant" our Keith Rucker is for sure! Now this is the way to do it. Sadly, many never reach this perfection. But when you have a Keith Rucker there is NONE better. Praise Jesus for "gifting" these talents to this man. Not to mention that he is one of the nicest persons one could have. Thank you Keith for sharing your incredible talents with us. It is a joy with each video.

[@lecnac855]

You are an inspiration and a great teacher.

[@garymucher9590]

I have to admit, I like actual projects like this over scraping videos. Thumbs Up!

[@paulcopeland9035]

Yep, however they all add up to a wonderfully restored machine.

[@ROBRENZ]

Enjoyed Keith! ATB, Robin

[@deanehill9730]

Beautiful job on your new to you mill. Very satisfying.

[@erich9244]

Keep up the great work Kieth! Thanks for bringing us along on the journey

[@geckoproductions4128]

Very nice series Keith, thank you. BTW: for those who don't know, there is a horizontal mill accessory for a Bridgeport vertical mill. Not nearly as nice as your K&T, but might get you through the night if you need one. I use mine for making fluted gun barrels

[@garytodd5605]

Once again. Thanks for the education kieth.

[@pnwRC.]

I never tire of watching you produce these complicated one off items! I just shared this video with a friend of mine that inherited his fathers tools. He was left an vertical mill, an end mill, a 4 foot lathe, and a smaller 2 foot lathe in the estate. He plans to learn to operate them, & make some custom RC machinery with them.

[@ionstorm66]

The cats a great addition to the background! Watching them roll around in the back while you were trying to line up the arbor was adorable.

[@assessor1276]

Very interesting Keith! The math behind gear geometry is fairly complex and when I taught it to mechanical engineering students, many of them never took the time to really understand the material. Fortunately, gear making is a fairly specialized art and so relatively few engineers ever get into it.

[@davidquerry8869]

That big steel straight slot screwdriver, with the wooden handle on it. I have a 3 piece set just like it. I am almost 59, and I bought this 3 piece set when I was approx 19. You are the only one, that I have ever seen my whole life to have one like it.

[@ronaldhorne5106]

I have a set I received as a present from my wife about 45 years ago. My set was made in the USA, the ones for sale now are made in China.

[@tinkmarshino]

You know Keith.. after all of these years watching your show I actually think I could set up and run one of these machines. With an expert there to fix any mistakes..

[@elsdp-4560]

THANK YOU...for sharing. Very much enjoyed it.

[@13yearsaprepperr.jtilbury.51]

fantastic work Keith ,,

[@ju2067]

Great video. Very interesting and well spoken.

[@brucemecham3406]

Thank you for explaining the job and walking us newbies through it. Great job!

[@joseforsowy7051]

Good job

[@joelhenderson5404]

Good stuff bud. I really enjoy watching a good mechinist at work.

[@ominguti6345]

Great video thanks. This is not criticism, I'm just mentioning what I would like to see too. I have a horizontal mill too (a German made heckert) and I wish there were some videos using "tool room" size horizontal milling machines taken closer to their limit. So not huge manufacturing behemoths, but smallish machines like the one in this video with 40in by 17 in travel taking bigger cuts. Anyone that has read a manual/book to those machines saw their material removal tables. I once tried to take a fairly large cut and I managed to pull the piece I was working on out of a vice slightly.. (no damage as I stopped it immediately). I imagine back in the day those machines were used much more aggressively and I wish someone made more videos of using them that way. It presents unique challenges with work holding and other things.

[@iamthetarget52]

Machinery Handbook for the win. I own three ... The 15th and 5th Edition are just for show now.

[@318SixPack]

I always love arbor day on this channel!

[@michaelennen3432]

Thank you so much for showing the full setup from an empty mill table!

[@shackman9566]

Thank you again I really appreciate your attention to detail and it is fascinating to see how gears are made. Can't wait to see the shaper finished and running. Have a wonderful day Keith.

[@ryanp0342]

Always love the time-lapses of cutting gear teeth

[@6NBERLS]

I think you have the best machinists channel on KZbin. You always have multiple projects going on and that keep the interest level up. You also know how to talk well. You get to the point and don't wander off-topic with superfluous information. A lot of KZbin creators miss that trick. How you find the time to put out so many videos I can't imagine. You also do a lot of long term projects that make for a more complex and interesting story. Well done.

[@mdouglaswray]

Beautiful video of the gear cutting process! Nice to see the plate swap in the indexing head. Always a pleasure to watch your work!

[@jasonbell5905]

Great job sir!

[@michaelrandle4128]

Yay, back on the planer, thanks Kieth, your vids are so professionally done, audio, visual and content are really good, thanks, really looking forward to seeing the planer up and running,

[@abywater]

@jacktheripped Have you seen the "my mechanics" site? Ultimate restoring!

[@davidwulf288]

You make some awesome videos. Keep up the great work Keith!!!!!

[@Dragehest]

I love these gear cutting videos

[@piperjohn_3]

That was a very satisfying project--from form to casting to lathe and then cutting gear teeth with a dividing head on the new mill. Expertly done with a beautiful result. And the cats look happy in their new shop.

[@rescobar8572]

GREAT VIDEO KEITH!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR TIME AND KNOWLEDGE!!!! $80?!! I paid $100 a piece for 2 cutters!! Who do you know over there amigo? I'll tell 'em that you sent me. 😃

[@windyhillfoundry5940]

Always so satisfying to see the end results👍

[@garthbutton699]

Thanks for the post I enjoy them all the time, was a good refresher course for me.

[@kerrygleeson4409]

Smooth as silk Keith 👍

[@jonathonclarke52]

Hi, i’ve been watching your channel for a couple years now. I’ve never commented before, but just want to say keep it up. I’ve learned a great deal from you, and deeply appreciate your efforts. I’ve been watching some of your old videos recently, and I have to say Bring back the beard. 😁

[@GeorgeWMays]

I love that. What a super treat for a Monday morning. Thanks. It is appreciated.

[@homeryoung7436]

Good morning Keith

[@MrThetaphi]

Beautiful work! Best wishes from Germany!

[@FrustratedBaboon]

Congrats on your new machine. I would like to have one also but I have no room. I'll have to go for the milling machine unfortunately.

[@ericmiller5559]

Nice work Keith, thanks for sharing.

[@OCT566]

Watching that machine run just makes you wonder what all it has produced to get us where we are today ! Great vid thank you for your efforts.

[@LouJustlou]

Shop cats look very helpful. 😆 Thanks for talking about lubricant and cast iron. I had no idea it had graphite in it.

[@CHICOB4261]

Good morning sir! I really enjoy the videos, thank you!

[@marknewsome9563]

Great vid on gear gutting Keith, thanks again for all your knowledge that you pass on to the likes of me as a fairly new starter to milling, much appreciated

[@martineastburn3679]

Watching the cutter as it turns - a White inverse gear shape is shown. Nice demo.

[@zexsrah5836]

Can't wait to see that machine in action been waiting and anticipating!!!!! Gonna be a hell of a machine.

[@CraigLYoung]

Thanks for sharing!

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very good video ..thanks for your time

[@TomTalley]

Thanks for another great video. Wow, that Arbor and cutter were just rock solid...couldn't hear anything either....very nice.

[@piotrlenarczyk5803]

Thank you for video.

[@samrodian919]

Nicely done Keith, a lovely job! The new mill is a great machine!

[@nigeleaton5715]

Been looking forward to this one! Thanks Keith.

[@CB71SS]

I find this so interesting on how things like gears, screws and shafts are made. Should be very interesting when you start making those stoker engine parts again. Looking forward to your next video.

[@tinygriffy]

I find it really nice to see the whole setting up process, very well made video, thanks !

[@ramanshah7627]

So relieving to see this mill's spindle run so much truer! These cuts look and sound soooo much better :)

[@LtBRS]

Beautiful!!

[@machintelligence]

You have experienced a version of Murphy's Law of collections: In a given collection (whether it is a set of wrenches, cutters, or even a random jar of fasteners) where you need N items, there will always be N - 1 available. If a set, it will be the one you need that is missing.

[@oldschool1993]

Yeah- the piece that is missing is always the one you kept for 10 years and finally threw it away the day before.

[@evanpenny348]

Bit like my law of screwdrivers: in a drawer of mixed cross pein and Phillip head screwdrivers you will be unable to find a cross pein for the Phillips, or unable to fine a Philips for all the cross peins. LOL

[@Windgonner]

Thank you Sir/Ma'am. That one was missing from my "collection". I am currently at 34 page of empirical laws of nature. www.dropbox.com/s/tiibe0vemn6fzoy/The%20empirical%20laws%20of%20nature.docx?dl=0

[@etheroar6312]

Murphy is our shepherd.

[@markfryer9880]

Aussie tradies who work out of vans or utes have a similar law to work by. Sure as hell within two weeks of having a clean out and deciding to leave a certain tool or other bit of kit out of your vehicle, "because I haven't used it in ages" . You will be on the job, probably on the other side of town from home and you will go looking for said tool and immediately kick yourself because you now remember taking it out and leaving it at home. It is almost universal amongst every tradie that I have talked to that this will happen.

[@bulletproofpepper2]

Thanks Keith, you make it look so easy but i know it’s not. The frustration of knowing you had a tool and can’t find it is real! Thanks for sharing!!!

[@Golo1949]

Wow that is some machine!

[@danhei]

A few years ago I needed some spacers made for a lace cutting machine at work. I thought the bill was rather expensive at the time. Watching you make different parts I realize there is a lot of set up time using very costly machinery plus the time it takes to cut the item. I guess those spacers I had made were not that costly after all for the time it takes to make them.

[@johnalgar4747]

So much to learn, Thanks for another great video Keith. I am glad you take the time and trouble to go into the little details. Measuring across pins - excellent!

[@peterevosirch7047]

That was cool.

[@izzynutz2000]

Great work Keith... I knew it wouldn't be long until you were going to use that Mill and film it.😉

[@johnquinn3899]

Hey Keith excellent description of the project and a great refresher on the deviding head. Thank you

[@marcsimonsen1578]

When I was in the market for a milling machine, I was looking for a verticle, Bridgeport style. Came across a Cincinnati 2ML (a universal horizontal milling machine) at a price I couldn't refuse, with tooling that got me quite a way ahead. If push came to shove, and I had to replace it, I would go with another horizontal in a heartbeat. Love watching the gear cutting!

[@TheKnacklersWorkshop]

Great work Keith...

[@richardhead8264]

_Keith, will you please make a video about how the cast iron bodies for these large machines were produced?_ 🙏 _Your Milwaukee Model H horizontal mill contains a lot of complexity in its shape. Plus it's hollow._ 😃 _I would be fascinated to learn how they went from molten iron, to the finished product!_ 👍

[@carltonlane8931]

Brilliant

[@toolbox-gua]

We are now 44 steps closer to see a great restoration.

[@ابراهيممنير-ف9ه]

Very good thanks lot

[@WilliamTMusil]

Hiya Keith

[@DavoShed]

First thing I noticed when the cutter contacted the work piece was hey that’s cutting on all the teeth. I don’t think I have ever seen that before. Nice machine!

[@wayned1807]

You can do jobs like this on a vertical mill with a attachment. I have. Not as rigid but it can be done if you don't have the floor space or other needs for horizontal.

[@johndyer236]

Great video Keith! Love this subscription! Keep it up!

[@clydecessna737]

Beautiful.

[@troykitchens9924]

If I missed your explanation of the gauge pins I apologize but I have a question What determines the size of gauge pin to be used. I see that you are actually measuring the teeth angle versus the root. Maybe explain the point of measurement for inquiring minds like mine. Thanks ahead of time.

[@ericcoffman820]

Keith,I'm with you on the favorite machine being the horizontal mill..Always liked setting up gang arbor's..Something about slab mills and side cutters that do a fantastic job..👽✌

[@erichoff7926]

Keith, the dog ate the cutter!

[@strykerjones8842]

That looks like an actual Universal Dividing Head! It would be very cool to make the spiral gear for the new universal head on the machine it’s needed for. I would love to see the whole gear train set up and cutting process.

[@sonicbluecoupe]

Where can I find some of those old fashion screw drivers use used to change out the dividing plate? I love those!

[@ronaldhorne5106]

Garrett Wade and Highland Woodworking, among others, still sell them. They were original equipment in the toolboxes in Tanks in WWII.

[@sonicbluecoupe]

@@ronaldhorne5106 I’ve seen some restored that were beautiful

[@chieft3357]

Great work!! Wish I had room in my shop for a horizontal mill.

[@billmorris2613]

Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 02 Nov 20.

[@MaturePatriot]

I like horizontal mills myself.

[@stokefire7]

Awesome

[@catfishgray3696]

GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO, ( NOW LET'S GO TO WORK )...LOVE THE CATS...

[@robevans8555]

Very cool,

[@DC_PRL]

That's pretty cool, like magic. Never saw how the gears are made. My buddy runs a machine shop, recommended that I buy a vertical milling machine.

[@littleworkshopofhorrors2395]

Don't worry you can cut gears using a vertical mill too.

[@DC_PRL]

@@littleworkshopofhorrors2395 I've been scanning FB marketplace for a Bridgeport clone to pick up cheap. I fix old garden tractors for fun, it would be ideal I think to fabricate parts. Old parts are getting expensive or unavailable

[@littleworkshopofhorrors2395]

@@DC_PRL a BP or clone would be good but you might find something bigger cheaper because it doesn't have the "name" that everybody wants, if you can find the space for it. I have a 626 size mill, which i find "adequate" for making or repairing bits for cars and bikes for the trade as a paying retirement hobby. It's amazing what you can do on one if you have a little imagination.

[@stewkingjr]

I love your videos. I know it's an old thread, I'm not a machinist, but why couldn't you cut the slot for a tooth, cut the opposite slot, measure with your pins to get the right cut depth, then just cut them all with just one pass around?

[@ramsay19481]

Jobs like that really make a style "a" arbor support shine....Light cuts work fine with the style "a" piloted arbor and you have much more room....You have the style "a" piloted arbor so all you need is the arbor support for it.. Cheers; Mike in Louisiana

[@HorochovPL]

What if instead doing one full pass and then measuring top-to-bottom with micrometer and gauge pins, we did cut the slots only on the top and the bottom of the part? We can still do the height correction before "real" pass and it sounds like doing less manual labor.

[@saurabhsharma-ts6ky]

I love you Keith 👍

[@ja263]

Great video !!

[@ianforfun1]

After the casting and machining, there's quite a lot at stake in the teeth cutting and working out just right. Alls well that ends well and this one reached all the way to the end successfully but admit It was a relief to see the final cut on the first pass. Can we see a little more of the Kittens, please?

[@waynep343]

Runout on the 2H.. wonder if it had a major crash and bent the drive spindle inside the gear case. This 3H does sound straighter. I wonder if the new 2H owner could drop in several tool holders and indicate off them to see if they all have runout in the same direction..