Metamodern Spirituality | Processing the 2024 Election (w/ Layman Pascal)

[@DamienWalter]

This is the calming metamodern influence I needed.

[@nichaeloz]

An almost 1 1/2-hour chat was brilliant from start to finish. Layman's Sharman perspective on reality is one of the most profound insights I have heard this year !

[@wanderingpoet9999]

Much better than your previous discussion on politics a lot of spot on remarks here I feel. We have indeed entered an era of politics as performative gestures designed to make you feel excited and heard. Earnest technocratic speak is right out... Magical thinking in... The Dems have just got to go along with this to some extent, but have policies that might actually work in the background...

[@newtonfinn164]

Rarely have we had as accurate a sanity check as this election provided. Did you have a horse in this race, were you deeply invested in which horse would win? If so, no matter the horse, you've lost your mind, your contact with reality. Neither horse was even remotely worthy of your time and attention, much less your allegiance. Shall we call this new clarity, this restoration of sanity, metamodern politics?

[@beingblack]

The "reality" that you describe is part of the illlusion: that choosing to vote for one candidate over the other is a form of "allegiance." That, in itself, is a major factor of the current brainwashing of our society: to view politics as a team sport, as in "our team vs. their team." It's the assumption that anyone who chooses to vote for a certain candidate is 100% sold in support of said candidate. In reality, that is not necessarily the case at all. A vote does not necessarily convey allegiance. It is however, what the powers of darkness want you to assume. This is producing a dangerous paradigm in our society. The product of this paradigm is the idea that anyone on "the other side" is the enemy, the scapegoat, and the evil that must be destroyed. It's a war mentality, and one of cruelty with no compassion. It will keep us fighting each other and keep us in a negative mindset rather than rising above with compassion and humility to help and love one another. Please reconsider your thinking on this. I have had to do that, as well.

[@alexanderlove2290]

Thank you both for this.

[@DamienWalter]

Green Trump. That's one hell of a mythic summoning.

[@OLIAMOROW]

We need Jack Black to read more integral and step up.

[@blackplague-x3y]

So far a good analysis that main stream media doesnt get.

[@eqapo]

Yall are on fire

[@marc10844]

Brendan & Layman... I follow you both and have great appreciation and respect. This was an interesting and meaningful conversation and I agree with much of what you offered. But I do wish you could sit down at the dinner table with some working class and working poor families (i.e., Trump supporters) and talk with them. I think this would further nuance and nourish your views. I am from that background and I know these people well and while I am not a Trump supporter, I understand how working people feel and why they vote the way they do. They have value and need to be heard. They are not just beasts of burden for the privileged elites to ride on. Thank you for all you do... keep up the good work.

[@JulioLopez-pm6iz]

All that analysis and they end up sounding like MSNBC. For all their big brain thinking when the rubber meets the road these guys are out of touch with the real world.

[@OLIAMOROW]

Basically we need Jack Black to read more integral books and step up.

[@Matterful]

The adaptive sensibility to multipolar traps/Molochean situations selects for dark triad traits. But it is ultimately maladaptive to adapt to Moloch as a ground.

[@matthewbarber4505]

That is the essence of what I call the "Short-Long Paradox," in that the optimal short term strategies are suboptimal in the long run, but optimal long term strategies tend to get crushed in the short game. The problem is that we need to find a strategy which will be minimally sufficient for both long term and short term success, and then have the determination and patience to stick with it through the long game. I don't know what that balanced strategy is, however, I'm still looking for it and hoping it's not just a dream

[@Matterful]

@matthewbarber4505 It is not just a dream. Let us keep looking.

[@projectmalus]

Biden's handing over the baton impressed me. Thanks for the show.

[@levcimac]

Would this conversation have taken place if Kamala had won? If so, what would the talking points have been? And if not, how come?

[@333333333190]

So many unnecessary and biased insults against hundreds of millions of people in what is an otherwise very productive conversation. Do Layman and Brendan really think the American Right is so ignorant? I am here for opinions but not reductionism and insult. People are people.

[@blackplague-x3y]

The JLO endorsement was so tone def by Kamala's clan that even my mother was like "WTF". "JLO has Diddy stink on her" as one reddit wrote.

[@sunnyco6325]

There is a Trump sign down the street from me and a man is holding an assault weapon in his hands displaying it proudly. I have a real problem with that.

[@Secretname951]

I imagine some of the left leaning metamodernists have been taking it hard?

[@Secretname951]

From listening to what Trump has been saying since his win it seems like he’s going to be a snub to the excesses of an unhealthy form of postmodernism and will be bringing back some aspects of healthy modernism and traditionalism

[@BrendanGrahamDempsey]

not healthy, no

[@projectmalus]

Enlightenment gap as products for privileged people perhaps is coal miner company store dance. The not-strange as elonGates hyperobject, Jef/Xi version 2.718 as new store? With the strange as the fitting to that.