Metamorphosis Should've Been EVEN MORE Depressing

[@bigalmou2261]

I like how down to earth, almost 9-to-5 he sounds. Like people saying Metamorphosis was the craziest ero they've seen, but for him it was tuesday lol

[@raviel_0422]

true. I don't expect how simple he is.

[@solsticeequinox8688]

I mean the world is full of stories like his, some are even crazier. As we don’t see it a lot in daily basis or daily news, we see it a new experience.

[@rockydeleon5746]

It's honestly the kindest and most down to earth people who write the most f'd up things. Asanagi and Junji ito are good examples.

[@naniwo4438]

@@rockydeleon5746 is there like an asanagi interview?

[@elio6361]

What does 9-to-5 mean ?

[@pentagon1208]

Metamorphosis just raised the bar for the “wrong route” type of choose in video game. Plus it is literal representation of how these choices could destroy the life of a person.

[@tenyearsinthejoint1]

Its a concept that would never fly in a film/series. Thats why i like it...youre supposed to feel awful after reading it. Its extreme and disgusting much like the world we live in. Id say it was very effective in doing what it wanted to convey

[@owenc.q8514]

​@@tenyearsinthejoint1 like Oyasumi pun pun

[@suicidalbomber8048]

​@@tenyearsinthejoint1You should watch more films and series because there is definitely much more risque and gutwreching stuff in them than Metamorphosis. Start with the film Salo.

[@HelloOnepiece]

@@suicidalbomber8048 Yeah I have to agree, the more corect way would be that this is a concept that would never fly in mainstream cinema, especially since the 2000s . (80s were wild)

[@Kattlarv]

Not really. You're still ONLY allowed to do the socially acceptable "wrong". They could NEVER allow a genderbent version of this.

[@zy_gote]

I can't believe they got THE man himself

[@theskullboy8700]

The notorious M

[@JukiCombo]

The legend

[@zyuunii3479]

the fact that he can speak fluent english was so much wins too

[@wi0.24se]

@@zyuunii3479 because he's born in the us duh...

[@zyuunii3479]

@@wi0.24se Already know that, but i dont get whats your problem with me praising his english skills? If its praise-worthy then he deserves it

[@billy1998vn]

What a humble dude, dismissing that the story had any deeper meaning and saying it was only for entertainment purposes. I believe the author of Monster had also said the exact same thing about his works as well.

[@marcodragneel8035]

Art is subjective, we all heard of that. So its up to us to give it meaning in our own perception. The author's intent is that, but that doesn't mean we can't give our own take on what has been presented to us. Such a bittersweet ending to a depressing,sad, yet eye opening story. Just hope people will see the beauty of the story itself and not just slander it for the more profane things shown

[@isthatbraised]

@@marcodragneel8035 And to me, Josuke and Okuyasu appearing and saving the girl is canon

[@Schale.kivotos]

But In joey channel he said it have a meaning...., And now it didn't? This guy is totally crack in the head, and btw this guy said something like "i want to inform people,and make them realize" something like that,but it's kinda funny this come from a person who make a story about Chicken rape a girls....

[@dinliner08]

@@isthatbraised i agree

[@iPervy]

Mmm monster. No joke one of the best animes out there. Dub may even be better than the sub (or atleast more fitting due to the setting).

[@silis_pap8473]

Dude after reading Metamorphosis I had to binge a whole season of Kaguya-Sama in order to cleanse my soul lol

[@cydthemanic]

Bro, I had to indulge myself in Slice of Life anime for nearly a week in order to forget it and even then the memories of the reading experience still haunt me to this day....

[@isthatbraised]

I actually kind of enjoyed it, not because I'm into the tags tho. But it's because it's a well written dark story, those back then were pretty uncommon Edit, I did however have one which required to surf myanime for the most wholesome story yet(fuck those ntr who bait using wholesome shit, went into it blind and I almost took a shit because I was so pissed)

[@IrvinMenezes]

@@isthatbraised I agree, like I enjoyed the manga as a story but not as an experience. The fact that it broke me that much says how masterful it is

[@corryjamieson3909]

@Diavolo Jaegar I recommend 21 jump street to soften the pain.

[@corryjamieson3909]

@Diavolo Jaegar trust me.

[@MissPoplarLeaf]

When I first watched the Trash Taste ep where they talked about Metamorphosis, my friends and I found it funny that Connor thought it was unrealistic for the mom to blame her daughter for what happened. He's too innocent for this world. Also clearly he has a fairly healthy relationship with his parents. So it's cool to see him admitting he was mistaken about that lol

[@kagura7107]

Connor has clearly been fed the silver spoon. I always knew him as someone trying to be humble to justify being weird. That's one way to live a life I suppose.

[@flyingorange2482]

Can you tive the timestamp when he said that?

[@strawberrymins]

So true unfortunately yes, my own mother had that happened to her, and I’ve heard it from all my female friends who had gone through something like that it happens so often it’s honestly heartbreaking.

[@DominantBtch]

​@@kagura7107yall people just love naking shit to put down others huh

[@lixon30fps]

@@kagura7107 why making sound like its bad to be silver spooned?

[@lonewolf9578]

Let’s all agree, the JoJo ending is canon

[@Jpow5734]

What do you mean? that’s the ONLY ending.

[@A.W000]

🤝

[@floatingduck6232]

There's other endings?

[@TATACAW69]

Bro that's the only ending which exists

[@28kingofkings]

wasn't there a rumor that the author himself approves of the JoJo ending?

[@usmansubhani7482]

I refuse to believe this. I’m sure the canon ending is with Crazy Diamond healing her. YOU CAN’T MAKE ME THINK OTHERWISE!!!

[@ItsShaz1]

Yes

[@shmekshi1358]

this is why jojo fans r clowns

[@zzzlikeaboszzz]

"The girl die at the end" - ShindoL

[@andrewli6606]

Don’t forget the Deadpool ending

[@JogDeez]

Copium

[@chikasnotmadjustdisappoint6266]

*Reads title* Thanos: "Impossible."

[@nitroexsplosion]

MCU Thanos taking pity on Saki and coming to her rescue

[@hypergiantstar1834]

I was wondering why y’all were talking about Saki “dying”. I didn’t know Saki ACTUALLY *DIED* in the fucking bathroom. I guess cuz I hard coped with the “future” her panels that I saw years ago on the first readthrough, cuz i didn’t see the very last panel. All these years I thought she had the kid and grew up. I just went back, and checked the last page, and saw that she was indeed, actually just dying/dead in the bathroom.. while the future her& her kid was actually just the drug induced dream…. ishould have stuck with the head canon ending I had years ago.

[@penny9107]

WHAT. SO IT WAS A DREAM/HALLUCINATIONS????? I...THIS WHOLE TIME I THOUGHT,,,, THAT WAS REAL......

[@ghekor]

@@penny9107 Yes she ODs on hard drugs and as she's laying there dying her mind goes into full illusion/delusion mode like a final coping mechanism before death...

[@penny9107]

@@ghekor damn... Okei now im sad.... And kinda depressed

[@ghekor]

@@penny9107 this is why someone drew 2 of the guys from JoJo appearing out of nowhere and saving her life and she ends up eventually fixing herself and living a happier life xd

[@Fenek591]

Guys... Same...

[@ApexGale]

I remember a transfer student in college was Japanese and he was so eager for us to show him around NYC. We all had to temper his expectations because this city is a shithole that tourists will only like if they're visiting for like a week once every 5 years. He loved Central Park but when we walked in any place that wasn't Midtown he was just like "this place reeks of garbage"

[@yammoto148]

I mean a lot of cities smell that way or pee. They are not known for being clean.

[@animetoonshd3889]

@@yammoto148 well except for where he was from ofc. If he even came from the city

[@yammoto148]

@@animetoonshd3889 Well I do hear that Japan does clean up more often so who knows.

[@GDIGhostStalker]

So in NYC, we do leave our garbage out in bags on the street instead of inside of in containers, so yes, if it was the middle of summer, it would reek of garbage. Doubly so if you were in a place with a lot of restaurants and fish markets like Chinatown. That being said, I do love living here and have all my life. It’s gotten to the point where I can’t see myself living anywhere else (any place I’d move would need to have a comparable mass transit system since I don’t drive at all, and that narrows my options quite a bit, especially in the US).

[@ApexGale]

@@GDIGhostStalker The convenience is nice but I'm not a fan of the trash and dirty air, the large amounts of homeless and/or insane people in public (thanks, healthcare system), the rising level of crime recently, and the high cost of living. Owning a home in NYC is virtually impossible if your household isn't making 6 figures a year, too. So you will have to rent your whole life

[@ArtyI]

I’m surprised that he didn’t intend for Metamorphosis to send a message, because for me it sent the message of how easy it is to fall. The girl went from normal life to destitute in less than a year just because of a few bad choices. It helped me think about my job in pharmacy, about just how many people get suboxone, which is a drug that helps with opioid withdrawal, and about how any of them could have just made that one bad choice that sent them down the wrong path. It’s scuffed because it’s realistic.

[@ero-senninsama1734]

More than not having a message, it doesnt have a moral message at the end, sure, but it just shows a facade of humanity. There is little to nothing that Saki couldve done different, it just happened. She wanted to try something new and it sent her down a spiral with no one to go to.

[@liamerasmus8592]

I mean...it's an ero-manga. So...at the end of the day. He made it for people to get off to it. I don’t think he makes stuff to make a statement. I think he just says "How fucked up can I go?" Lmfao

[@Reletr]

@@liamerasmus8592 That's the beautiful thing with art though, the reader/viewer can extrapolate meaning out of art as it relates to themselves, without any intention from the creator, even if it's hentai.

[@keps_ksk]

Any story will have a message IMO. Even if the writer never intended to make one by creating a story they will inevitably give a message of some kind-whether it'll be "good will triumph over evil", or "love is good". I guess for this story was that life's absolutely fucked and this could happen to someone in real life

[@TheMockingjay74]

I know plenty of fucked up erotica that has some realistic themes and it makes it seem like... is it possible to do these things irl

[@mitacestalia7532]

Honestly, there are more fucked up hentai out there, but Metamorphosis hold higher value simply because it shows touch of realism. What happen with Saki surprisingly happen in real life, maybe not common but it's out there. I mean, when you finish reading fucked up disgusting hentai your reaction probably be like, "Oh okay" then you continue living your life. You know that shit won't happen in real life. When I finish reading Metarmophosis, I cried at the ending and felt depressed for 3 days.

[@silver_stone6510]

Tbh It didn't feel like a hentai when I first read it It felt like I was reading an actual publicized manga with a fucked up train wreck of a character's life that get progressively worse and worse every page Its also a kind of a good case study of what drug addiction can affect your life

[@ahsank.]

Likewise it has stayed with me, I just cannot get rid of it. It was so depressing.

[@jonglopez5400]

Infortunately, t*rture and snu*f does happen also in reality. But I guess the concrete or raw info/material to make a compelling story about these were pretty much hard to find specially through normal methods.

[@felyndiira]

It's not just that it happens in real life. A lot of the stuff depicted in more fucked up hentai happens somewhere in the world, too. Metamorphosis's claim to fame, though, is that it ernestly makes us emphasize with Saki. It focuses more on her development and slow spiral downward than the s**, which makes it feel more real than many other mangas with drugs and messed up parents. An example I like to use is Eisei no Zen. The premise of that manga is entirely unrealistic - it's about an immortal woman being tortured by an emperor who wants to unlock the secrets of immortality, and the karma exacted as a consequence. Obviously fantastical, but it's portrayed in such a philosophical way that you can't help but relate it to real life.

[@bebopobama4686]

The part that fucked with me the most was the mother blaming her for “seducing” the father. I’ve heard of that happening irl way too much, it’s depressing.

[@gajspalt]

I read through Metamorphosis, stopped 1/3 of the way through before finishing it completely. What makes it most disturbing and depressing, is that it's grounded in reality. The things that happen in it, can and probably have happened to people in real life, which makes it even more depressing.

[@Acrylescent]

That's also what fucked me up with it. Usually you have some very outrageous element to the manga that allows that full disconnect from reality, but Meta was a story you hear pretty often of young impressionable girls being manipulated by predators and wind up addicted to drugs and reliant on the abusers. While this one was a very hard read for me, it is kind of a warning call.

[@sultanprawiro3069]

I read it when I was in middle school and after finishing it was just "that's scary but okay". But yesterday I read again and I really couldn't continue after her mother accused her of seducing her father

[@godspeed_smc401]

I can't even find it lol

[@autumntrash3029]

Saki's downward spiral was a really sad read for me, I found myself unintentionally skipping a few pages everytime I knew something bad was gonna happen to her. Watching her get abandoned and taken advantaged of by the world made me think of how fortunate I am that I can live my life peacefully. AND THIS IS A HENTAI???

[@HolligaMan]

Jojo ending for me is like a band aid over outrageous gash wound in my soul. But im still glad it exists.

[@johnfrancisterne1072]

Gotta hand it to ShindoL. His doujins may be depressing, outrageous, and at times, disgusting for some people, we can all agree that his art style is pretty fire

[@markusharroldhailey6688]

Agree

[@Enterperse]

I finished reading this a few days ago and can't stop thinking about the ending. Porn is not supposed to be like this. I wasn't even focusing on the spicy bits. The pure depression and bad feels about this work is something special. I feel touched. Something about this hits too close to reality. Hats off to the artist for creating this mess of awfulness.

[@shinobifrog5519]

​@@alias4795 pretty easy to understand what the op meant

[@Kiradeit]

So that's why metamorphosis didn't hit me that much because I thought she was alive and happy with her daughter in the end but when I found out that it was a delusion after all and she dies holy shit it just hit me like a fucking truck

[@flyingorange2482]

Seriously, How do you didn't realize that??

[@josephineosei1151]

Truck-kun hit you hard

[@user-wu8qc9bb3e]

Lmao. She's high and she just imagines it.

[@floatingduck6232]

@@flyingorange2482 copium

[@flyingorange2482]

@@floatingduck6232 What? The author litteraly wrote at the last page explaining the ending

[@love-hammer]

As dark as it could have been, ending on the line "you were the seed of my rebirth" was goddamn beautiful. After like 15 years of reading doujins, it's probably the only line of dialogue I remember.

[@BalterBlack]

But depressing as hell still as it was just a vision before death for her, of her perfect reality

[@JUST_SOME_SHY_GUY]

But she's dead bro😔

[@itsusi3259]

15 years! You OK bro

[@praaathaaamesh]

I cant forgive my brother for introducing me to this manga.

[@nepstruesom5100]

Bro 💀

[@lonewolf9578]

I can’t forgive my friends for tricking me into watching Boku No Pico

[@hopeatlast9617]

@@lonewolf9578 Me 5 years ago : OH MY GOD, THAT'S NOT GOOD! Me now : ...I've seen so much worse that I do not even feel anything about these little boys except for "Heh, I prefer Milfs anyway"

[@nepstruesom5100]

@@lonewolf9578 that's a treat fym

[@connor48880]

What about Eiken?

[@whoppermelt]

The saddest part to me is that Saki never got to be happy. Most tragedies start with a character in a happy place, or a relatively good place, and then slow fall. Saki's entire life is *just the fall.* Even in the beginning, Saki's life is boring, sterile, and miserable. No friends, no fun, nothing real. By the end her life is raw hedonism - sex, drugs, and attention - but all empty. She just goes from one kind of deeply miserable to the *opposite* kind of deeply miserable, and then *dies.* She never even got the chance to save herself.

[@JUST_SOME_SHY_GUY]

Not all stories have a happy ending bro

[@whoppermelt]

@@JUST_SOME_SHY_GUY dude i'm saying it's sad. that's all

[@Dragnil2005]

Thanks for this Manga, It gave me reality check about how addiction can really destroy one's life. I was depressed about the ending but at the end this gave me a lesson to turn my life to a better way now.

[@vonxiasin8160]

The execution of Metamorphosis is nicely done that you had that one moment asking yourself about life after reading it. Imo if you have a message & idea to tell, just go with it. I have this one doujin to share which has the same depressing vibe as Metamorphosis. It's "Renjo no Hokorobi | Love Coming Apart " by Betty. It's not dark but just depressing

[@skelebro9999]

Remember kids there even more f-ed up doujins than Metamorphosis :)

[@shingosshojiopoulos6608]

*cough* euphoria *cough*

[@skelebro9999]

@@shingosshojiopoulos6608 *couth* eroguro vol 2 *cough*

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Euphoria isn't that bad either comparatively to some stuff out there.

[@twilight625]

there really aren't the other stuff is literally just guro for pure shock factor, the only reason metamorphosis is one of the most f-ed up doujins is because the character spirals in a more realistic fashion than just getting sh*t on or having their heads cut off

[@user-fg3dz5kv7q]

@@twilight625 Exactly

[@b.r.52]

Dang. This guy has some series that helped me get through a few dark times of suicidal tendencies. Had friction burns on my Johnson instead.

[@fernandotrevinocastro1018]

He's a legit artist not jus an H one

[@midiagain828]

Metamorphosis Director's Cut - Now with 30% more drugs

[@mschored487]

I feel like Shindo watched the OG episode and heard Garnt's Requiem description and was like "perfect. I'm gonna go with that now."

[@skriichi]

I was like, "I wonder what mangas he's made" and it quickly turned into "Oh, I've read all of them"

[@solanumtuberosa]

This is why shit like metamorphosis and punpun (Or NGE to an extent) is memoriable. Most stories try to scare you with gore or edgy downward spiral, but real adult horror is inescapable depression.

[@VacadoRay]

The jojo ending is so wholesome

[@ItsShaz1]

Agreed

[@KariIzumi1]

If Diavolo dies in that universe, it’s canon

[@nanonato-z8l]

i did not expect such a kind wholesome looking man made the absolute hellfire that is metamorphisis

[@jackmilar718]

Man junji ito

[@MyAdam4321]

Connor’s expression showed he already knew what Shindo L was gonna say since the moment shindo said “I did some homework…”

[@THEKNOK]

BASED MAN DOING BASED THINGS IN A BASED PODCAST

[@TheSwanies]

2:36 being called a sweet summer child by the man himself

[@kowalgd7079]

I just found out about this and it really upset me, mostly because I know 2 girls (1 was a friend) who basically went down the same road, just take out the incest and suicide and it’s exactly the same. It makes me so sad man, so much sin in this world

[@Titanic_shirohige]

there wasn't any incest

[@kei-lc6tt]

​@@Titanic_shirohige there was, her father did it with her twice and when her mother found it she got kicked out of the house and started living with hayato

[@Titanic_shirohige]

@@kei-lc6tt sorry i must have misread something

[@justnoob8141]

@@Titanic_shirohigethere is no BUG & SPIDER in the story, you mean

[@jamesd5532]

Here's the real ending: You follow the blood trail to the bathroom and find her. You call the ambulance. Then later on you check on her at the hospital. You become very good friends with her and kind of protect her. Now the ending with her and her daughter is real because you basically rescued her.

[@ea_naseer]

Hold on so the part where the mom blames the daughter happens in real life... when I read the manga I thought that part was pure bullshit... damn... Edit: wait she actually died? What about the mom at the end telling her kid she just remembered something bad... shit.

[@rinylvinyl]

Welcome to Earth.

[@acctrsh]

Most likely a case of having a last moment of clarity and her her life flash before her and wishing things could have been different.

[@licklack6763]

There are some moms who see their daughters as competition depending on the circumstance

[@adrichiii839]

Yes, sadly there are some “moms” that would rather believe their husbands, boyfriends or male relatives than their own children. It’s a sad reality.

[@rinylvinyl]

Should we tell him about instances where the mother not only a blames them for it, but actually takes part in their abuse? Too soon?

[@pedro15305]

Metamorphosis would be an incredible dark tragedy story if it wasn't a hentai. The sex scenes are drawn in hentai style, that means they are drawn to be hot, but that takes away so much from the tragedy of the situation. If it was another hentai with generic story and rape tropes I wouldn't care, but because this had such big potential the sex scenes make it actually disgusting.

[@childrenofscarlet6164]

Yeah, i read metamorphosis for the first time yesterday and i feel the pornographic element to it somewhat downplays how grippingly depressing the story is. Even today that ending page still latches to my brain.

[@pedro15305]

@@childrenofscarlet6164 Exactly!

[@liamerasmus8592]

This, yeah. I heard Shindo L in another interview say something along the lines of "Showing rape in hentai can help you empathize more with the victim". That already made me kind of sick to my stomach, and it kind of sums up the weird justifications people come up with for this doujin. "It's supposed to be disturbing!" "It's realistic!" Idk about you, but I don't think women who are getting raped make ahegao faces and have heart eyes. At the end of the day, it's fiction so I don't really care if you like it or not, or if you appreciate it or not. But I certainly don't agree with the high praise for it being this really incredible, thought-provoking work. Especially since most of the conversation surrounding it doesn’t have anything to do with the themes, but the graphic and disturbing content. Anyway, if you want something that's on the complete opposite end of the spectrum (mostly) I'd recommend Jorori's works.

[@pedro15305]

@@liamerasmus8592 I also agree with you. It's not even only the first few times, its always drawn like that, with ahegao faces and whatnot. I'm not against depicting disturbing themes like rape in media and entertainment, but I am against glorification and banalization of those themes. It should be depicted as it is, a horrible act with no positives. It can be raw, but it shouldn't be long nor super sexualised. Because by doing so you undermine its impact. And case in point, people only talk about it for being disturbing and graphic like you said.

[@TheRealMagnetoMasterRace6723]

@@pedro15305 this, i agree tho i read somewhere that when ppl get raped you yourself dont emjoy it it feels good bcuz its a stimulation of your body but not to a extend to make lewd faces and heart eyes

[@childrenofscarlet6164]

I read metamorphosis for the first time yesterday and it still latches to my mind like a facehugger. I need a detox.

[@fernandotrevinocastro1018]

So you want gut punching AND wholesome? 332018

[@spongeyspikes09]

to quote: One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind those eyes... What dreams of chronic and sustained *cruelty* ?

[@user-wu8qc9bb3e]

When she get beats up by random strangers at the end, it makes me feel so bad.

[@SadD3adGirl]

They weren't strangers they were students from her former high school she dropped out though

[@colonelpopcorn7702]

Man I have no idea why people read metamorphosis. That shit basically made me asexual for a week

[@sozius0]

I didn't really get the ending to it apparently, when I read it I interpretted the glasses as symbolism for her leaving her past behind her but no it apparently meant death and that 'happy ending' was a hallucination she had in her last breaths but it does leave it for interprettation so if I can interpret it the way I want to I will.

[@sombraafiada]

the thing about giving a story a message is that at some point, or at the end there HAS to be something showing how the story wanted to give you the message. in my opinion, a message should come from your own thoughts, since messages and lessons can be taken from most things.

[@ariannanightingale4054]

To be fair, I don't like Metamorphosis being meme'd on as much as it is because the speed of descent is surreal, too fast for feeling anything. I would say "unrealistic" and that's why I don't understand what everyone is so sad about.

[@nicholasdudkiewicz5153]

Not at all unfortunately. Been around drugs my entire adult life and can say that its not at all uncommon to see someone get heroin addicted and be working as a prostitute or stripper or both in a short time span

[@nichtstern5147]

That legend also drew how Josuke saved her by Crazy Diamond-ing her back in time.

[@-gj3nu]

Bro wanted it to be more depressing 💀💀💀💀

[@amegalodonwithinternetacce5863]

The story of Metamorphosis is such a common thing where I’m from and I feel that’s the most horrifying part.

[@dominickaldape7719]

I'm not an avid watcher of Trash Taste and I know Joey's talked about it before in his personal channel but have they ever talked about the Daily Life of Mai-Chan? Cuz I remember that that was the peak of bizarre/guro eromanga for a long time and I would love to see Garnt and Connor's reaction to it.

[@fakeemail4005]

Daily Life was the most fucked up thing I've ever read, to this day. Particularly because despite it being so crazy, it WAS a somewhat logical conclusion of what would happen if an immortal young girl got caught up in human trafficking. And it was particularly inspiring how Mai-Chan, somehow, stayed optimistic despite all the shit she went through

[@blinded6502]

Oooh, I've read all of his stuff! Never been so ashamed of myself in my life

[@bradenwiese4168]

This dojin is the word for word saying of “I don’t wish to be horny anymore, I just wish to be happy”

[@IzuruIZG]

I think the one where she has a kid is the canon one because its just too precious seeing saki actually happy

[@sdbzfan1]

Metamorphosis was the first hentai that got me interested in story outside of rpgs, now i love reading hentai more for the stories because i already know there is gonna be sex, i wanna see the world your mind comes up with and some are better than most ecchi anime and ever more wholesome

[@sbp4215]

dude read a book.

[@resumethyvideo7631]

@@sbp4215 go read a Wikipedia article

[@Sk8Playzz]

Read the Bible friend

[@sdbzfan1]

@@Sk8Playzz to boring, I'd rather watch hellsing ultimate

[@ThinkingYesimathinkee-pz1rf]

​@@sdbzfan1 one of the most funniest comment i have ever encountered

[@rpamungkas13]

The entire podcast can be summed by connor making wtf face.

[@nabongobong9155]

Metamorphosis: *hella depressing* Shindo L: "Oh you havent seen anything yet"

[@goonily1]

Metamorphosis is literally just failing all of the qtes in a telltale game but there's no gameover

[@sandilemlambo5701]

Legend has it that Saki now has a Josuke haircut

[@justsomeguywholosthismusta8495]

Knowing how Saki died made the story more good. Seeing how she off'ed herself made it worth the read for me. It shows how even the most innocent of all innocent human beings can be contaminated with just one single vile of shit(Hayato)... It's always fun to see stories like that where you see a main character who's well dignified and well presented slowly crumble and destroy themselves. Makes it more interesting (At least for me)

[@fade2716]

ShindoL's work is a blessing and a curse.Also metamorphosis has some message to it that i think can relate irl

[@Vanilla_The_Star_Bunny]

♥️

[@pokemondude45]

10:25 just for the entertainment. And yeah, despite how morbid that sounded, car crashes are indeed entertaining

[@randomttm5038]

I love these videos :)

[@primexample8912]

Funny thing is metamorphosis isnt he's ONLY Depressing Manga...

[@Porco_nucleare]

It's really not about being depressing. Edgerunners and berserker are depressing for example but they don't hit as hard as this because this could/could've actually happen/ed

[@mrm0nty550]

Thank god Josuke and Okuyasu came in and saved her.

[@Eupator5]

A more depressing version of Metamorphosis already exists. It's called Tristia. See also Epistulae ex Ponto.

[@aznotfound5204]

code?

[@ablackbunny3149]

@@aznotfound5204 I don't think it's doujin. I think they're poems from a Roman poet named Ovid.

[@undary0u]

Unironicly a masterpiece with how it's convays the true depths of depravity that occur everyday without a majority of us even knowing and the ending was so masterfully done that when I read it for the first time I thought she was still alive and was filled with hope that her life would be turn around until I realized what happened and was depressed more then usual for about a week or 2 . It's written like a great shien but with alot and more detailed intercourse .

[@zzxp1]

This is sarcasm right?

[@alias4795]

🤓

[@undary0u]

@@alias4795 Imagine calling others needs cause your illiterate 🤧

[@zillauniverse7208]

Can’t wait to meet him at AX

[@apostleofninomaeinais3578]

I've read his Dog doujin and it was so good that I reread it in some occasion

[@artemis2121]

💀

[@mardshima2070]

My favourite is the cameraman one.

[@xaina222]

Wait his penname is Shindo L ? Ive always been calling him Shindol This is Gold Roger all over again.

[@kendricklogan5661]

Metamorphism was crushing to read all those years back but that is what marks its quality I suppose. Like a car accident that gets worse and you just can't look away for some reason.

[@IanM..]

I recently bought a physical copy of metamorphosis and when it arrived i took it out of the package and saw the cover art i have never rushed something into a drawer so fast 😆

[@SumeaBizarro]

"Turns out people are fucked." -Shindo L

[@125discipline2]

the manga surely was not the usual fap material, it actually has weight, and it brings back people to reality. as a male, it makes me cautious about my sister more. cause this can happen to me, and this kind of story have happened somewhere.

[@c-lao]

I've only read the plot on Wikipedia. How can it possibly get any bleaker than that?

[@sn1p3s29]

I never would have expected the author of the legendary 177013 to speak the phrase "they just started memeing on it"

[@VacadoRay]

I've kept my friend from reading this.. But some days I want to let them do it

[@cybersurfer3d837]

5:30 dang, I just spoiled it for myself

[@ItsShaz1]

Jojo ending coming in clutch to make us feel some happiness.

[@carlosgarza400]

Honestly I didn't think she died the first time but after reading it multiple times I got it

[@pajvarma]

Same , i thought she survived and had a kid.

[@GabrielLANSALOT-CARON]

Wdym reading it multiple times?

[@carlosgarza400]

@GabrielLANSALOT-CARON There are some things that have needing you to do a double or triple take. Also this comment is 2 years old, how did you look for this?

[@yyonn7966]

In this case, Connor was literally caught in 4k.

[@rimurusthegoat]

Man I hate how I got drawn into reading metamorphosis I thought it was about Ayame kajou from A Boring world where the concept of dirty doesn't exist

[@Stasia.Chronos-stasis]

If anyone in community have read more than 1 doujinshi then they have at least seen a few things on Metamorphosis.

[@SUPERSMASHTV177O13]

177013/Metamorphosis has been deleted from Nhentai

[@izakimanuelkailola1125]

Why tho?

[@SUPERSMASHTV177O13]

@@izakimanuelkailola1125 Because of fakku

[@izakimanuelkailola1125]

@@SUPERSMASHTV177O13 what are they do?....i try check on them but they just in maintenance

[@sadaomao7425]

"idon't think about puting out a massage whem i write a story" can we have have more of this please?!

[@finestfragments]

Most of the plot in Metamorphosis DOES happen in Japan. Look up “Toyoko kids” and now you realize the author was just writing down real-life events.

[@nineclouds5689]

177013, I'll just leave the code for people who are curious about it here. Well, the majority of people knew about the code already. Warning: You'll get either depressed, shocked, or disgusted.

[@4gamestetra117]

I think most people feel all 3

[@jackmesrel4933]

@@4gamestetra117 Yah, definetly all three at the same time

[@tman1669]

Depressed: you know why Shocked: Honestly I feel more depressed Disgusted: DADDY NO!!! (Among other moments that make me question humanity as a whole. I know we were f*cked before going in and afterwards. I learned we are irredeemable.)

[@randomguy2402]

Or all 3 lol

[@ATG913]

"People are fucked." - Shindo L Truer words were never spoken.

[@umaninstrumentalityprject2989]

Ngl after reading 177013 i was legit destroyed, stomped into the ground, heart: gouged out, frontal lobe: destroyed, cranium: decimated, cerebrum: severed, bones: crushed, skin: gone, internal organs: rearranged and dead inside. BUT 265918, just like Josuke, healed me, everything: healed. But the emptiness is still there

[@OBIIIIIIIII]

It was about effing time you got our lord and saviour on the podcast

[@draeinlineskating8893]

Metamorphosis was the iconic "fuck up doujin" and also the one which lead me to alot of fuck up fetish like ntr black mail and stuff. Years later i come back to visit it and i feel ... "i remember that it was way more horrible than this or am i became so fucked that this feel kinda normal" Also i love his art style so so much

[@zyonhenderson67]

2:20 Thats "People are fucked" oh shit! haha

[@Killer_Kotomibro]

You know and despise Shindo L for Metamorphosis I know him for TSF Monogatari and 4 Leaf Lover. We are not the same.

[@primexample8912]

TFS Was Wild man

[@Dookieman1975]

If you want to get P0rn addicts to stop, show them fcked up stuff like this and they’ll be like Alex in Clockwork orange getting disgusted by any of his bad habits

[@thekamotodragon]

that's an extremely risky gamble chief. It's just as likely that you'll be introducing some sick individuals to their new #1 fetish. You underestimate how disturbed some people are lol.

[@pellejger1412]

You have Grand Vizier Zigzag as your profile picture AND you know about ShindoL. What a cultured man. I recently rediscovered my love for seinen series, but I would like to hear your favorite non-ero seinens so I can pick up something cool.

[@WeenieExaminer]

I cant lie, I still genuinely hate metamorphosis. It's still just too depressing and gross for me

[@dominickaldape7719]

I agree hardcore, I love ShindoL's artstyle and her character design was amazing, but I can't get off to it nor can I really enjoy the story. And I love Ichihaya so I'm no stranger to morbid eromanga.

[@liamerasmus8592]

My problem with it more lies with the fact that the themes behind it get lost in the sex. A lot of people say it's "gritty" and "realistic", but I think it's very much shock value. I mean, shock value is a common theme amongst Shindo L's stuff. Hell, he's written beastiality stuff involving a little girl. I don't think it's a matter of making a statement, but more a case of "How far can I go?" That's typically a trend I see with a lot of ero-mangaka. Anyway, I'm not a fan of that sort of stuff, but I won't condemn anyone who is. I'd recommend checking out an artists named Jorori though if you want some high quality doujin tho.

[@TheRealMagnetoMasterRace6723]

@@liamerasmus8592 i will but i gotta ask since im quite vanilla is there NTR? i dont like it i have my reasons so i gotta know before checking the guy out

[@liamerasmus8592]

@@TheRealMagnetoMasterRace6723 Most of his stuff is purely vanilla and his art is honestly (at least imo) the best in the industry. I personally recommend checking out Kimi Ga Suki and Natsu to Jun. He has made one that featured a yandere that had some blood involved. And there was a very short doujin (couple pages) he made that appeared to be NTR, but I never checked it out. Anyway, 90% of his stuff is vanilla and really good. So I recommend just checking tags before hand and seeing if there might be something that's not your thing.

[@alias4795]

@@liamerasmus8592 true. You wouldn't praise Cuties (the netflix movie) for it's realism and representation because all of it is meaningless when the show itself does the exact thing it is critiquing, which is the oversexualisation of young girls. (which is obviously a lot worse in this case since it uses real child actors)

[@12Ger13]

I wonder if the artist met at some point one of the people who became an inspiration for Metamorphosis or he just heard stories from them.

[@tatsusama3192]

I've heard so much about this hentai and have never read it. I'm aware of all the memes and how depressing it is. . . I'll read it later today when I have enough time to cheer myself up😅

[@jackmesrel4933]

It's not that bad IF you are aware of what kind of story it is. Those who went blind when it released tho... Didn't have that advantage :)

[@tatsusama3192]

@@jackmesrel4933 Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Knowing how it ends and what happens will blunt the impact. Good

[@jackmesrel4933]

@@tatsusama3192 Also because the doujin starts relatevely normal for doujin standards, so by time it starts to show it's true colours you're completely off guard. Sneaky little bastard XD

[@mitacestalia7532]

Honestly, it's like reading tragic story but hentai.

[@PintheElfKingdom]

Imagine coming in to fap, and got depressed instead

[@Amuro1X]

my intro to Shindo L was TSF Monogatari. I recently finally purchased a physical Eng copy of it and my favorite part of it is the comic under the dust cover talking about how Ero Manga has become popular in the west but western pigs never buy it, lol

[@leogazebo5290]

Yoo I low key wanna read an even more depressing Metamorphosis 100/10

[@thelena03]

Greatest Podcast Ever!

[@gn4918]

Now i need to do some homework before watching this