Where Are The Black People In Shogun!? Is This a Woke Article?

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@metatronyt
@metatronyt 8 ай бұрын
Hey thank you so much for watching! If among other things you are also interested in ancient Roman mythology, I'd recommend this recent video of mine! kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6Clpo14r7Njqpo Thanks!
@claudiaxander
@claudiaxander 8 ай бұрын
With a view to studying the pathology of seizures in the otherwise healthy individual i would like to buy you a ticket to see the musical Hamilton at your earliest convenience.
@kimmogensen4888
@kimmogensen4888 8 ай бұрын
if there was a concept called black blood it would not be a reference to skin color as racists today will interpret it as, but behavior, as violent behavior, son of a violent man, it could be translated as, as don't send a sheep to tending a flock of sheep against wolves, qualities desirable in a warrior are hereditary, as height is.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 7 ай бұрын
@@kimmogensen4888 Technically there was a case of black person, who become attendant of one of Samurai. Though it was probably later then the event of the show? I do not remember exactly. Point is that it is not what "Woke" mean. It was a quote from Martin Luther King, about self realization of minorities about they voting power. In fact it was later misused by racists as sarcastic. Sometimes I wounder if really bad takes are not pushed by white supremacist, exactly to justify they accusations of Wokism. Because seriously.
@TheRezro
@TheRezro 7 ай бұрын
Wait... it is about Ainu people? Well, it is simple. Population of Ainu people was not widely spread around Japan but mostly limited to Isle of Hokkaido. So until action do not take place specifically there, like in Golden Kamui. There is no point of representing them in the movie. Especially as whole point of feudalism during Shogunate was to remove social mobility.
@dontbothertoreply9755
@dontbothertoreply9755 7 ай бұрын
They are on Assassin's Creed hahaha.
@undead9999
@undead9999 9 ай бұрын
In Africa. The end.
@abradolflincler726
@abradolflincler726 9 ай бұрын
Ever heard of Yasuke?
@LatimusChadimus
@LatimusChadimus 9 ай бұрын
The Western and Central portion, yes, although some of them could still be over there in the Caribbean
@erenjaeger1738
@erenjaeger1738 9 ай бұрын
​@@abradolflincler726he's the only one. Just one.
@micheledeetlefs6041
@micheledeetlefs6041 9 ай бұрын
​​@@abradolflincler726 One man. In the middle of 22 million people. The question isn't where is that one man, but why would anyone think that one man more important than the other 22 million? Also the black samurai so many people keep referencing had been dead nearly two decades by the time the novel and mini-series open. While the Jedi were based on samurai, samurai are not Jedi. They don't become Force Ghosts. So his lack of appearance is easily explainable.
@brunorocha1328
@brunorocha1328 9 ай бұрын
How dare you sir claiming ancient people used to be in their place of origin instead of taking the Uber to other countries...Why do you hate Ameridians?
@leedobson
@leedobson 9 ай бұрын
Why can't modern people comprehend homogeneous cultures ?
@Romulan64
@Romulan64 9 ай бұрын
Because they're actively working to destroy them. To them, equality can't be achieved until all cultural roots and loyalties are destroyed and replaced with a united global monoculture. Leftist intellectuals don't even TRY to hide that hatred, either! PS: I'm Hispanic, but I can see the very clear agenda at play.
@generalalduin9548
@generalalduin9548 9 ай бұрын
Because identity politics
@aragmarverilian8238
@aragmarverilian8238 9 ай бұрын
Because of NPCism.
@rickofpolynesia8070
@rickofpolynesia8070 9 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t say modern people as much as Americans and Canadians
@MoStBlEsSeD
@MoStBlEsSeD 9 ай бұрын
Marxism
@TalesofDawnandDusk
@TalesofDawnandDusk 9 ай бұрын
As someone who translates 1000 year old Japanese folktales and puts them on KZbin, you can take my word for it that there were no black people in the literature of feudal Japan . . I don't think I should have to explain that but we live in. . . "Interesting" times.
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 9 ай бұрын
I just checked your channel and subscribed!
@brunoactis1104
@brunoactis1104 9 ай бұрын
Interesting times? There have always been weirdos, this is no different; a couple of people making strange claims. Honestly more annoying to me are the people blowing this whole thing out of proportion, like Metatron or you.
@patricialavery8270
@patricialavery8270 9 ай бұрын
They must have imported all those Black Viking Women.
@harvestcanada
@harvestcanada 9 ай бұрын
There aren't any white people in it either same as aliens George Washington or pizza hut. Next thing your going to tell me no women exsted either.
@nodiggity9472
@nodiggity9472 9 ай бұрын
What about people in feudal Japan who *identified* as black? Did their struggle not happen?
@khfan4life365
@khfan4life365 8 ай бұрын
I’ve seen pictures of the Ainu. They are not black. They have a darker skin tone, but they aren’t black. I’m sure they’d be insulted to be called something they’re not. These culture vultures should be ashamed of themselves.
@snowcat9308
@snowcat9308 7 ай бұрын
I don't think they care or even have the same understanding of race/identity politics as we do. Stop trying to own the lefties by white-knighting for an indigenous population that would laugh at both of us for having a conversation this pointless.
@kennethc2466
@kennethc2466 7 ай бұрын
In the mid-16th century, enslaved Africans arrived in Japan alongside Europeans. They're known as Kokujinkei nihonjin. The Ainu are an ethnic group comprising related Indigenous peoples who are native to northern Japan. You seem to be VERY confused, and a 'culture vulture' who doesn't even understand what you're talking about, aka, typical Metatron simp.
@stuarthynes6136
@stuarthynes6136 7 ай бұрын
The Hairy Ainu of the north were suntanned, when upper class valued lighter skin and had servants holding parasols when outdoors...
@kennethc2466
@kennethc2466 7 ай бұрын
"I’ve seen pictures of the Ainu. They are not black" Duh... The Ainu are an ethnic group comprising related Indigenous peoples who are native to northern Japan. "They have a darker skin tone" False, and horrifyingly revealing of your 'skin tone equals ethnicity' equivocation claim. "These culture vultures should be ashamed of themselves." As you should be, ignoring the facts. In the mid-16th century, enslaved Africans arrived in Japan alongside Europeans. Black people in Japan (黒人系日本人, Kokujinkei nihonjin /Nipponjin) are Japanese residents or citizens of sub-Saharan African ancestry. I'm sorry the facts of black people's history offend you to the point of using public dishonesty. Please try to do better as a human being, and not be the 'culture vulture' you condemn.
@scarlett8782
@scarlett8782 7 ай бұрын
you're right - they're not. they're obviously indigenous Asian people. they're not even close to being African black - not even close.
@dannyau139
@dannyau139 8 ай бұрын
I never once thought to asked where are all the Japanese people when watching Zulu back then.
@troglodyte8791
@troglodyte8791 8 ай бұрын
no but i find it strange that none of the black people in it had a laptop.
@138monkey9
@138monkey9 8 ай бұрын
my japanese grandad used to read old zulu books to me 'cos south africa was japanese back then. They went there with the first air baloon ever constructed
@hppd1699
@hppd1699 8 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@fmotts4485
@fmotts4485 8 ай бұрын
Shouldn't we also be asking, "where are all the white people in Wakanda?" Japan is a real country with real history that cannot be changed. Wakanda never existed, never ever, an idea created by some white dude. That means we can change and add whatever we friggin want, like blue unicorn people. So why are there only dark skinned Africans in Wakanda?
@ReyCimeni
@ReyCimeni 8 ай бұрын
These black people were everywhere in the world, apparently. Even in the arctic and antarctic.. these black people will claim anything. Wez wuz travelerz!
@spudjuice9314
@spudjuice9314 9 ай бұрын
My grandmother used to tell me. "I don't care what they tell you on Metatron, the last Shogun was black."
@klausvanderknut928
@klausvanderknut928 9 ай бұрын
and my grandmother used to tell me. "I don't care what they tell you in the youtube comment section, Metatron is black."
@nomdeguerre8464
@nomdeguerre8464 9 ай бұрын
WHERE ARE ALL THE BLACK METATRONS?!?
@JugglerOfWords
@JugglerOfWords 9 ай бұрын
"I don't care what the black people told you, the last Shogun was my grandmother"
@LawfulBased
@LawfulBased 9 ай бұрын
My german grandmother told me: _" Don't listen to what they tell you in history. Hitler... was a black trans woman! "_
@HangrySaturn
@HangrySaturn 9 ай бұрын
@@nomdeguerre8464 AND THE LAMB SAUCE!!!
@yarpenzigrin1893
@yarpenzigrin1893 9 ай бұрын
Don't give these people an inch. They pretend to ask these questions in good faith but they never do.
@brianbagnall3029
@brianbagnall3029 8 ай бұрын
They're trying to do the same thing they attempted/partially succeeded with ancient Egypt. Ancient Egyptians were 100% white until the Nubian invasion in around 800 AD. The cemetery at Fag el-Gamous says it all.
@petrmiros9908
@petrmiros9908 8 ай бұрын
@@brianbagnall3029 You mean 800BC no?
@FOLIPE
@FOLIPE 8 ай бұрын
​@@brianbagnall3029the nubia invasion happened 700BC, the cemetery you are referring to is from the modern era, thus post nubia invasion.
@brianbagnall3029
@brianbagnall3029 8 ай бұрын
@@FOLIPE Okay, I had that reversed. Still, Egypt was founded by whites like Ramses. The cemetery at Amarna and also Fag El Gamous show 54% were blondes or redheads, and 87% when light-brown hair color is added. That's remarkable because adults generally lose their blondeness as they age.
@rightwingreactionary
@rightwingreactionary 8 ай бұрын
@@brianbagnall3029 Citations needed.
@thomasvanhede5771
@thomasvanhede5771 8 ай бұрын
Those ppl think Afro Samourai was actually a documentary ....
@a.nonimus6705
@a.nonimus6705 8 ай бұрын
It wasn't?
@thomasvanhede5771
@thomasvanhede5771 8 ай бұрын
@@a.nonimus6705 oops yeah it was , sorry i am an ignorant white hétérosexual male who has so much privilege i can't even count them 😜
@Void_and_Colors
@Void_and_Colors 8 ай бұрын
​@@a.nonimus6705Actually the was a black slave that became a samurai in Japan who worked for Oda Nobunaga and was one of his most trusted man who was tasked to bring back Oda Nobunaga back to Oda's son and his name was Yasuke.
@zigmar2
@zigmar2 8 ай бұрын
@@Void_and_Colors He was never a samurai. He was a retainer.
@Quickdrawingartist
@Quickdrawingartist 7 ай бұрын
​@@zigmar2Hopefully, I remember that, too. It's the only thing I fuck up about Japanese culture...
@SatanLiterally
@SatanLiterally 9 ай бұрын
English pilot, Dutch ship and crew, Japanese island. Eyyyyy where da black people at?
@dysmissme7343
@dysmissme7343 8 ай бұрын
😂😂
@zzzzzz69
@zzzzzz69 8 ай бұрын
Narcissism
@texasfuneral4787
@texasfuneral4787 8 ай бұрын
Black people were on the island first. 😡
@SatanLiterally
@SatanLiterally 8 ай бұрын
Yes. It's a common misconception that the early inhabitants of Japan were called Jomon, but this is actually a poor translation. It translates as "Yo, man!"
@Alphonsio
@Alphonsio 8 ай бұрын
Fighting and looting each other..
@JaejoongPrincess
@JaejoongPrincess 9 ай бұрын
As a Black American, this is embarrassing and stupid.
@jackspratt7264
@jackspratt7264 8 ай бұрын
The word "an" precedes vowels not consonants. But I don't want to embarrass you for being stupid.
@vampirecount3880
@vampirecount3880 8 ай бұрын
I know the feel, im also black from Brazil and this kind of shit makes me cringe
@JimmyDoyel-by2cp
@JimmyDoyel-by2cp 8 ай бұрын
Nice thumbnail 😆
@jrabonsound1913
@jrabonsound1913 8 ай бұрын
a, not an …JS👍🏼
@JaejoongPrincess
@JaejoongPrincess 8 ай бұрын
@@jrabonsound1913 It was a simple mistake.
@Merisu_Sheep
@Merisu_Sheep 9 ай бұрын
Where were the white people in Wakanda lol Edit: I wrote this as a joke. It wasn't supposed to be a serious critique on the fictional nation of Wakanda or the film
@deanmccrorie3461
@deanmccrorie3461 9 ай бұрын
The feds are breaking down your door in 3…2…1
@stuka80
@stuka80 9 ай бұрын
the white people made the movie, thats where they were lol
@Merisu_Sheep
@Merisu_Sheep 9 ай бұрын
@@stuka80 XD
@jellyfishjones4741
@jellyfishjones4741 9 ай бұрын
@@stuka80 Klaue was too powerful. That's why Killmonger had to kill him.
@65firered
@65firered 9 ай бұрын
​@@stuka80And the comic.
@Mistmantle88
@Mistmantle88 8 ай бұрын
I watched Schindler’s List all the way through twice, but I couldn’t find a single black person in the concentration camps. “Spielberg is so racist.” 🤦🏻‍♂️
@blub5117
@blub5117 8 ай бұрын
Actually a good comparison. There have been different categories of sub human in the NS ideology. Blacks and f.e. muslims where clearly seen as inferior and have been discriminated but not seen as worthless or hazardous. Blacks could end up in camps for other reasons (like being gay), but the extermination of their ethnicitie wasn't planned. So they've been a very tiny minority. Btw. Did you know that after liberation, everyone got released but the gay? The allies didn't see them as innocent so forced labor had seen to be appropriate.😢
@rickrussell8382
@rickrussell8382 8 ай бұрын
They could have been guards ?
@jgreystoke
@jgreystoke 8 ай бұрын
​@@blub5117Rubbish. Hitler admired Muslims for their ferocity, and for their hatred of Jews. Israel's Muslim enemies admire Hitler.
@SuperOmnicronsj44
@SuperOmnicronsj44 8 ай бұрын
@@blub5117 Not really. The issue is "documented fact" but I would also advise people that "history is written by the winners" so there are people that may or may not have been historically marginalised .. I get that.
@MrVenona
@MrVenona 8 ай бұрын
@@rickrussell8382 You need to up your trolling skills.
@themeanmachine84
@themeanmachine84 9 ай бұрын
What I want to know is why those people are not making movies about actual African kingdoms, kings, queens and stories and instead are trying to forcefully inject blacks to other cultures? Black Cleopatra, black samurai, black English royalty, black this, black that... Really? I'm just waiting for my country to be dragged into this nonsense and then I will be really pissed off. Because for over 1000 years of its existence, it had never things like "black king", "black prince" or "black nobleman" etc.
@ChaoticYak1
@ChaoticYak1 8 ай бұрын
YES! I have very little knowledge of sub-Saharan Africa, but I learned a bit when I was teaching an introductory humanities course and I was able to touch on some of the ancient African cultures, like ancient Zimbabwe and the Aksum civilization in Ethiopia and others that I don't know about. If they want people to appreciate African culture, why don't they actually study THAT instead of trying to take everyone else's? Do they not think their own cultural ancestry is unimportant?
@civizojin
@civizojin 8 ай бұрын
I think the deliberate ignoring of African history is done to avoid the awkward truth that Africa, like the rest of the world, committed slavery and isnt pure and innocent
@rzella8022
@rzella8022 8 ай бұрын
@@JT-qc9nb Like fictional Wakanda.
@WarlockofThorns
@WarlockofThorns 8 ай бұрын
Outside of the fantasy segments like werebears, mechs, ect. Yasuke the Black Samurai actually existed. Nobunaga Oda even made him a retainer and gave him land. His other retainers were really upset by this and Mistuhide possibly imprisoned and resold him into slavery after Oda's death. They arent forcefully injecting there. They're using history as inspiration to tell a story. There are also historic paintings that show Black people throughout europe in places. Look up John Blanke the Trumpeteer for King Henry VIII. There should be more stories about the Afican people though.
@betat.4974
@betat.4974 8 ай бұрын
​@@WarlockofThornsThat was decades before this show came. Timeline is different.
@grandmufftwerkin9037
@grandmufftwerkin9037 9 ай бұрын
Trying to overlay modern concepts of 'diversity' into every historical context has become a very tiring thing to deal with.
@cyberedge881
@cyberedge881 9 ай бұрын
Exactly. There were virtually always exceptions. But why do you have to constantly focus on the exceptions? And so it unequally at that? Why does every period drama or fantasy film or series have to look like modern New York City? It's getting absolutely pathetic.
@azelkhntr4992
@azelkhntr4992 9 ай бұрын
But they waz kangz an sheeit.
@gambitacio
@gambitacio 9 ай бұрын
@@cyberedge881especially even now where for a lot of nations (America is a spoiled child in historical comparison of age), ethnicity and nationality are synonyms.
@paltomori4625
@paltomori4625 9 ай бұрын
Within 200 years every second person on this planet will be "sub-Saharan" black. All companies have to suck up to them no matter what, since they have to please their future customers and employees. That is what drives all of this.
@FrankLucas-pw5hs
@FrankLucas-pw5hs 9 ай бұрын
*Y'allz Racist!* *FACTS* are that there were *two huge Feifdoms* that were composed of *majority Black African Samurai.* For example, read the following (taken from an *expert historian* on the Tokugawa Shogunate era): "In the annals of Japanese history, there exists a remarkable yet little-known chapter about *two African samurais* who wielded influence during the tumultuous era of the Tokugawa shogunate. These two remarkable figures, whose origins lay in the lands of Africa, found themselves in Japan's feudal landscape, their destinies intertwined with the fate of the nation. One of these Africans was akin to Yasuke, the famed African retainer of Oda Nobunaga. Known for his towering stature and exceptional combat prowess, he rose through the ranks of the samurai caste, earning the respect of his peers and the trust of the powerful daimyo Toranaga/Tokugawa. With his keen strategic mind and unwavering loyalty, he established his own fiefdom, a bastion of strength in the heart of Japan. His companion, mirroring William Adams, was a man of unyielding determination and indomitable spirit. Embodying the spirit of endurance and resilience, he navigated the intricate web of Japanese politics with finesse, earning accolades as a master diplomat and tactician. Like Adams, he too carved out his own domain, a beacon of hope for those who sought refuge in the tumultuous times of war. *When all the Native Japanese were bloodthirsty and plotting how to burn down their opponents crops - it was these two African Samurai that were planting trees!!* Together, these two African samurais stood as pillars of strength, their fiefdoms serving as bastions of stability amidst the chaos of civil strife. Their allegiance to Tokugowa/Toranaga was unwavering, their skills in warfare and governance invaluable assets in the struggle for power. Through their courage and ingenuity, *they helped shape the course of Japanese history, leaving an indelible mark on the annals of time."* Powerful stuff, huh?? --------------------------------- *APRIL FOOLS, BABY!!!!* 😂🤣😂🤡🤡
@dski8097
@dski8097 9 ай бұрын
Africa, getting rounded up by the Muslim slavers and other black tribes like the Dahome.
@thomashauer6804
@thomashauer6804 9 ай бұрын
Yep everybody blames the dutch Englisch and spanish but forgets the arabs
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 9 ай бұрын
I came to write this exactly comment.
@m0-m0597
@m0-m0597 9 ай бұрын
It's time to watch Afro Samurai again
@brunoactis1104
@brunoactis1104 9 ай бұрын
​@@thomashauer6804Everybody now's trying to blame the arabs so people forget about the dutch or english at this point.
@rzrx1337
@rzrx1337 9 ай бұрын
It's set in 1600 so the transatlantic slave trade was well underway.
@Shin-nl8oz
@Shin-nl8oz 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! I am Japanese and I am delighted to hear your analysis. As you mentioned, Yasuke is the only black person I know from those days. There may have been other black people, but the episode where Nobunaga and others were surprised about his blackness and tried to wash off the ink from his skin shows how rare they were. However, I often hear claims like "Japanese were black," which frustrates me a lot. In my opinion, it is a disrespectful attitude towards the culture and history of other civilizations. I want people to be humble enough to study and accept other cultures as they are. (By the way, it's great that the Japanese people had accepted Yasuke so well. Perhaps they did not have the idea of racial discrimination back then ☺)
@nyantaro-momo2
@nyantaro-momo2 8 ай бұрын
同感です👍
@harrietharlow9929
@harrietharlow9929 8 ай бұрын
I don't understand how anyone can think Japanese were black--ever. But then I don't understand why black people have to be included even when such inclusion is flat-out historically-wrong.
@brianmcdermott2525
@brianmcdermott2525 8 ай бұрын
Almost certainly far worse racial discrimination back then, yasuke in most writings i saw is described like a spectacle.
@Arminas86
@Arminas86 8 ай бұрын
Oh don't worry about it, in the west we're used to crazy comments like that, recently we had a black woman claiming the first Brits were black and that blacks built stone hendge. We know from archeological evidence she's wrong but it doesn't stop her and people like her from ranting.
@bobsmith5185
@bobsmith5185 8 ай бұрын
Ask the Koreans if the Japanese racially discriminated back then (& later)…
@exister4959
@exister4959 9 ай бұрын
Its really weird how no one puts on a movie about cleopatra and asks "where are the japanese people" 🤔 only logical conclusion is that they hate japanese people obviously
@njalsand133
@njalsand133 9 ай бұрын
Only solution is to make a movie where the zulus somehow invade egypt
@MrAnthraxes
@MrAnthraxes 9 ай бұрын
@@njalsand133 The live action "Civilization"-Movie I always hoped for? With Ghandi nuking everyone in the end? :P
@bob7975
@bob7975 9 ай бұрын
I'm of Irish descent and I am totally okay with the idea that there are no Irish people in the Bible.
@dukebanerjee4710
@dukebanerjee4710 9 ай бұрын
The "where are the black people" trope when it comes to Cleopatra at least makes some logical sense, because Egypt is in Africa. Of, course the whole thing goes off the rails when these people claim Cleopatra was black (she was Greek) or that Egypt was a "black empire" (imposing modern ideas of race onto an ancient civilization)
@FrankLucas-pw5hs
@FrankLucas-pw5hs 9 ай бұрын
*Y'allz Racist!* *FACTS* are that there were *two huge Feifdoms* that were composed of *majority Black African Samurai.* For example, read the following (taken from an *expert historian* on the Tokugawa Shogunate era): "In the annals of Japanese history, there exists a remarkable yet little-known chapter about *two African samurais* who wielded influence during the tumultuous era of the Tokugawa shogunate. These two remarkable figures, whose origins lay in the lands of Africa, found themselves in Japan's feudal landscape, their destinies intertwined with the fate of the nation. One of these Africans was akin to Yasuke, the famed African retainer of Oda Nobunaga. Known for his towering stature and exceptional combat prowess, he rose through the ranks of the samurai caste, earning the respect of his peers and the trust of the powerful daimyo Toranaga/Tokugawa. With his keen strategic mind and unwavering loyalty, he established his own fiefdom, a bastion of strength in the heart of Japan. His companion, mirroring William Adams, was a man of unyielding determination and indomitable spirit. Embodying the spirit of endurance and resilience, he navigated the intricate web of Japanese politics with finesse, earning accolades as a master diplomat and tactician. Like Adams, he too carved out his own domain, a beacon of hope for those who sought refuge in the tumultuous times of war. *When all the Native Japanese were bloodthirsty and plotting how to burn down their opponents crops - it was these two African Samurai that were planting trees!!* Together, these two African samurais stood as pillars of strength, their fiefdoms serving as bastions of stability amidst the chaos of civil strife. Their allegiance to Tokugowa/Toranaga was unwavering, their skills in warfare and governance invaluable assets in the struggle for power. Through their courage and ingenuity, *they helped shape the course of Japanese history, leaving an indelible mark on the annals of time."* Powerful stuff, huh?? --------------------------------- *APRIL FOOLS, BABY!!!!* 😂🤣😂🤡🤡
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 9 ай бұрын
Shogun: "How DARE you EXCLUDE black people from medieval Japan!!???" Resident Evil 5: "how DARE you INCLUDE black people in modern Africa!!!???"
@allarian8726
@allarian8726 9 ай бұрын
cant please these lunatics lol
@JV-km9xk
@JV-km9xk 9 ай бұрын
they are the true racists tbh
@ironclamp5325
@ironclamp5325 9 ай бұрын
The claims of racism on that game were legitimately stupid. The game takes place in Africa. Pretty sure it would make zero sense if all the zombies appeared white and only a few may have been black. I swear people will bitch about anything.
@sahilrahman5066
@sahilrahman5066 9 ай бұрын
There was like one single black samurai and he was called Yasuke, that's it there were no other the Japanese people were confused about why he was brown colored 😂 that they thought he was just dirty it took them a while to understand
@alvinbonny1562
@alvinbonny1562 9 ай бұрын
​@@ironclamp5325I live in Africa (Ivory Coast) me and my buddy actually finished the game several time. We didn't even knew the game was called racist until 2020. People just want to be mad bro
@tomhalla426
@tomhalla426 9 ай бұрын
White savior? The plot of both the novel and 1980 series was about Blackthorne being used by Toranaga, not the reverse.
@colorpg152
@colorpg152 9 ай бұрын
seriously now why is it wrong for white people to save others? why should the good deeds of people who stood against slavery and other evils not be praised?
@elenabob4953
@elenabob4953 9 ай бұрын
Imagine having a story about a naufragiated person in a completely different culture trying to survive being presented as a "white saviour" story. Those people really live in delulu land.
@JannyBesmircher
@JannyBesmircher 9 ай бұрын
THey just hate white people
@henrikaugustsson4041
@henrikaugustsson4041 9 ай бұрын
Not only that, these people actually existed!
@michaeltelson9798
@michaeltelson9798 9 ай бұрын
The same in China during the Ming dynasty. Reading Castiglione’s biography. The Jesuits weren’t allowed to mix with the general population after the initial emperor. One was ordered to oversee the production of cannon of European design, place other tasks as the Emperor at the time declared. I could see that the authorities would take the opportunity to milk him dry of information.
@firtazile8035
@firtazile8035 8 ай бұрын
Very informative video. They started with the rewriting of European history, moved to Egypt and now they want to branch out into Asia, it's disturbing.
@Ronydoo-yv2hs
@Ronydoo-yv2hs 6 ай бұрын
These people are crazy and it is getting us worried. Soon we will think the moon is made of cheese.
@TomYawns
@TomYawns 6 ай бұрын
you should see what the afrocentric parts of instagram and twitter say about the original chinese, japanese, american indians of the whole western hemisphere, irish, phoenicians, scandinavians, egyptians, greeks, berbers, etc. basically every noteworthy civilization and culture started out black and built great things, yet sub saharan africa was the only place to remain black and build…very little in comparison. also the term moors isn’t another word for muslims, but a sophisticated and powerful black culture that left its mark all around the world yet had almost all trace of actual evidence of accomplishments erased, all credit stolen by “cave dwellers.” also the whole theory/psyop of the global pre mudflood tartarian civilization was also co-opted and credited to the moors.
@Z3PQ
@Z3PQ 6 ай бұрын
Somehow white people weasel themselves into this Asian history
@faustoferrari4303
@faustoferrari4303 4 ай бұрын
@@TomYawns The truly disturbing implication for the future is that this kind of deliberate fabrication does not remain 'ghettoised' on the more outre reaches of instagram/X. It is also becoming normalised in academe, where the dominance of loopy left-wing ideological thinking is increasing with each generation as academics with traditionally rightist or central views (who are essential for ensuring meaningful, balanced debate) have been almost entirely purged (especially in the humanities and social sciences).
@framegrace1
@framegrace1 9 ай бұрын
"White saviour?" The poor guy is trolled constantly and used by Toranaga without any remorse...
@poisonapleproduction
@poisonapleproduction 9 ай бұрын
Fr when does he save the japanese people XD
@Subarashii_Nem
@Subarashii_Nem 9 ай бұрын
He is a PRISONER. He's not allowed to leave. He says many times he wants to leave and both Toranaga and Mariko tell him he can't because he basically belongs to Toranaga now. Where does the saviour part come in? Because he helped a ship not sink? He was looking out for himself. Because he saved a few important people's lives? His own interests align with doing that. Because he got a promotion? To keep him sweet and he'd be an asset against those that are after Toranagas head. He's not a saviour at all. He's a prisoner and a dancing monkey for Toranaga and basically everyone else in power. I dunno where people got white saviour from but he's definitely not a saviour. He's just trying not to be killed. Very big difference.
@bob7975
@bob7975 9 ай бұрын
He would last all of about 15 minutes without Lord Toranaga's protection.
@erikrungemadsen2081
@erikrungemadsen2081 9 ай бұрын
Blackthorne is not saving anything no matter what his skin color is.
@nullakjg767
@nullakjg767 9 ай бұрын
the poor fragile japanese people who had just invaded korea and killed over 1 million civilians lol.
@ken-qg7bd
@ken-qg7bd 9 ай бұрын
As a Japanese, I thank you. I will try to keep it short and simple, but Sakanoue No Tamuramaro's origins are clearly documented in official histories, and he is not of African descent, as is obvious. The Ainu are not of African descent. As for proverbs, I have never heard of such proverbs. To begin with, there is a Japanese proverb, "uji yori sodatch," which was established in the 16th and 17th centuries to recognize the importance of acquired education and environment over bloodline. Therefore, this is clearly not a Japanese proverb.
@alias-wave
@alias-wave 8 ай бұрын
Let me add a few words. The Ainu people were established in the 14th century, so they did not exist at the time of Sakanoue-no Tamuramaro The Ainu people came into existence in the 14th century when Mongolian troops invaded Sakhalin and the residents of Hokkaido mixed with Okhotskis who fled to Hokkaido. The Ainu people are not indigenous to Japan and have nothing to do with black people.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 8 ай бұрын
@@alias-wave arent the ainu supposedly the natives of hokkaido? Plus why did they look different? and why some Japanese look different. It feels like japan out of the 3 main east asian countries have the most different looks out of the 3.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 8 ай бұрын
so what are ainu?
@VVayVVard
@VVayVVard 8 ай бұрын
@@jmgonzales7701 The Ainu look similar to, and share genetic features with, indigenous people of Northeastern Russia and North America. So presumably they branched out from the groups that migrated from Asia to North America some 10,000~30,000 years ago.
@putinscat1208
@putinscat1208 8 ай бұрын
Everyone is of African decent technically. But after 50,000 years or so of migration the typical race characteristics developed. Black skin is a necessity in a hot sunny environment. Not in Japan. Japan is a unique country in almost being completely isolated for thousands of years, briefly interacted with mostly Portuguese, then closed up again until Perry sailed over and demanded Japan open up.
@Hathur
@Hathur 8 ай бұрын
It's like when my relatives from Poland visited me here in Canada. None of them had ever met a black person in Poland, they had only seen them on tv / the internet (population of black people in Poland is less than 0.1%) Yet here, in a single day arriving in Toronto, they saw a few hundred different black people in downtown Toronto in a matter of hours. Go figure, if only 1 in 1000 people happen to be black in your country, the odds of you meeting them is extremely low. The black people living in Japan would've been so rare / few that they were just statistically speaking, irrelevant.
@WagesOfDestruction
@WagesOfDestruction 8 ай бұрын
In Australia, I never saw a black person till I was late in my teens; when I saw one, I was amazed.
@alias-wave
@alias-wave 8 ай бұрын
​@@WagesOfDestruction In Australia, the Anglo-Saxons exterminated the Tasmanian Islanders and used the Aborigines as hunting (recreational) targets, so maybe you didn't see the blacks who became the overwhelming minority.
@idnintel
@idnintel 8 ай бұрын
@@alias-wave are you trying to start some conflict again by dredging up something some people did a long time ago that is no longer relevant to the people currently living there...or something.
@WagesOfDestruction
@WagesOfDestruction 8 ай бұрын
@@alias-wave Tasmania is far away from me. The other issue is that most of the Australian Aborigines near me are so integrated into the white population through intermarriage that they look to me as white.
@alias-wave
@alias-wave 8 ай бұрын
@@WagesOfDestruction What is the current education in Australia about White Australia policy that once existed? Is it taught that Australia was a penal colony and a continent that sent its abandoned people? Didn't Australia, with its White Australia policy, forcibly take children from Aborigines and raise them as adopted children of whites?
@jetrey811
@jetrey811 8 ай бұрын
This discussion was so helpful and productive and interesting. It’s such a relief to be able to talk about shows we like and also dive into the historical aspects without feeling shutdown for not already knowing or for being curious. You weren’t harsh or mean at all in explaining this or even criticizing the article. I’m really liking this show and I’m glad I found this channel now
@rogervandusen8361
@rogervandusen8361 9 ай бұрын
As with all those people motivated by ideology , they are not above falsifying/lying to reinforce an argument. They want to see the past as it "should be", not as it was.
@Grandwigg
@Grandwigg 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if folks try to rationalize it by saying or thinking that it's 'just an embellishment' for the sake of 'the cause'
@ChaoticYak1
@ChaoticYak1 8 ай бұрын
The "should be" always confuses me. If you live in a diverse society, certainly, all groups should have equal rights, but in reality, there is nothing inherently better about a diverse society vs. a homogenous society. It doesn't make the society better if you shoehorn in different ethnic groups.
@DccAnh
@DccAnh 8 ай бұрын
@@ChaoticYak1 in fact, diverse society is worse than homogenous society, it provide no benefit yet introduce problems like racism, prejudice and breed conflict between different group within the community.
@rzella8022
@rzella8022 8 ай бұрын
@@ChaoticYak1 Diversity is not a strength, but a weakness. First lie. There is an agenda to weaken Western white Christian countries by a certain group, using blacks and illegals to destroy the West. This group also feeds the victimhood trope by giving it much media and educational system coverage. We truly are in an underhanded w a r.
@RandomPerson-nd2ey
@RandomPerson-nd2ey 8 ай бұрын
While also altering it the other way to make the groups they dislike seem worse than they actually were. For example, removing the context for certain events. The Crusades come to mind as an example. Yes, they were brutal *but also* they were in response to the Muslim Wars of Expansion which were also brutal. Neither side was "good" by modern standards.
@venturini09
@venturini09 8 ай бұрын
They’re hanging out with the Hispanics in the actors lounge waiting to be cast in 99 of the next 100 TV commercials.
@s.b.sieber2007
@s.b.sieber2007 8 ай бұрын
Along with the same sex couples and their mixed-race children.
@mindfu11dr0n3
@mindfu11dr0n3 8 ай бұрын
As a Mexican I need to say that, that was funny. Lol.
@thebeezknees
@thebeezknees 8 ай бұрын
so many white commercial actor out of work nowa days.
@globalpropertyinvestment
@globalpropertyinvestment 8 ай бұрын
Its the same nonsense in Ireland, 4% of the population yet are in 95% of the TV Ads. I'm starting to think when they arrive at Dublin Airport, they are given a complimentary actors guild card.
@MagcargoMan
@MagcargoMan 8 ай бұрын
Fragile
@RivetHead999
@RivetHead999 9 ай бұрын
“Black blood” does NOT mean African ancestry. Thats 21st century western mentality applied ancient Japanese perspective. Black in Japanese culture means “darkness” so to speak. It can also mean cowardice, or evil, depending on context. One of the thoughts on seppuku is to show “my blood/intestines are not black” in a display of loyalty and bravery. I’ll have to try to find the book I used To have that talked a bit about the Japanese and death, it had sections specifically referencing seppuku as well as jisei (death poems) and aspects about Japanese superstition, beliefs, and death. Black blood was also “black guts” or “black intestines” which when you told someone their stomach was black, it was an insult.
@sweptinblack
@sweptinblack 9 ай бұрын
Sounds like white devil trickery to me, damn albinoids
@wattlebough
@wattlebough 9 ай бұрын
Reminds of the book title allegedly based on a chinese proverb called Thick Face, Black Heart.
@yo49315
@yo49315 9 ай бұрын
In this context it actually does mean African ancestry. A 19th century French doctor Maget believed Japanese were a mix between Malay (whom he believed to be Africans) and Ainu.
@jimmy-iw3sb
@jimmy-iw3sb 9 ай бұрын
​@@yo49315shut the hell up
@EyeOfTheWatcher
@EyeOfTheWatcher 9 ай бұрын
@@yo49315 Just because someone propose a theory does not make it true. By your logic black people should be categorize as sub human because of a few people propose it to be true.
@imperatoraugustus9970
@imperatoraugustus9970 7 ай бұрын
I keep seeing people claiming Yasuke was this samurai that set out to avenge nobunaga's death, but in all writings from that time i've seen he was a portuguese slave that Nobunaga chose to take, and he simply lived in the castle until Nobunaga's assassination where he was seen running screaming into the wilderness. He wasn't a samurai, he wasn't a hero, he was a dude. a black dude in japan.
@richardhoare9963
@richardhoare9963 9 ай бұрын
I thought it was an April fool gag until I saw the original article was published three weeks ago 🤣
@nomdeguerre8464
@nomdeguerre8464 9 ай бұрын
"Fool" still applies.
@nemanjastevanov9980
@nemanjastevanov9980 9 ай бұрын
Author knew that Metatron will make a video about his article on April 1st... :D
@Poolooloo-def
@Poolooloo-def 9 ай бұрын
oh but we knew this dumbass take was coming. There's no way a show released in current year with no black characters would immediately raise this stupid question. Give it time they'll ask where the transexuals, gays and non-binaries were. This was an article aiming to click bait farm by politicizing something.
@FrankLucas-pw5hs
@FrankLucas-pw5hs 9 ай бұрын
*Y'allz Racist!* *FACTS* are that there were *two huge Feifdoms* that were composed of *majority Black African Samurai.* For example, read the following (taken from an *expert historian* on the Tokugawa Shogunate era): "In the annals of Japanese history, there exists a remarkable yet little-known chapter about *two African samurais* who wielded influence during the tumultuous era of the Tokugawa shogunate. These two remarkable figures, whose origins lay in the lands of Africa, found themselves in Japan's feudal landscape, their destinies intertwined with the fate of the nation. One of these Africans was akin to Yasuke, the famed African retainer of Oda Nobunaga. Known for his towering stature and exceptional combat prowess, he rose through the ranks of the samurai caste, earning the respect of his peers and the trust of the powerful daimyo Toranaga/Tokugawa. With his keen strategic mind and unwavering loyalty, he established his own fiefdom, a bastion of strength in the heart of Japan. His companion, mirroring William Adams, was a man of unyielding determination and indomitable spirit. Embodying the spirit of endurance and resilience, he navigated the intricate web of Japanese politics with finesse, earning accolades as a master diplomat and tactician. Like Adams, he too carved out his own domain, a beacon of hope for those who sought refuge in the tumultuous times of war. *When all the Native Japanese were bloodthirsty and plotting how to burn down their opponents crops - it was these two African Samurai that were planting trees!!* Together, these two African samurais stood as pillars of strength, their fiefdoms serving as bastions of stability amidst the chaos of civil strife. Their allegiance to Tokugowa/Toranaga was unwavering, their skills in warfare and governance invaluable assets in the struggle for power. Through their courage and ingenuity, *they helped shape the course of Japanese history, leaving an indelible mark on the annals of time."* Powerful stuff, huh?? --------------------------------- *APRIL FOOLS, BABY!!!!* 😂🤣😂🤡🤡
@I_Love_Puzzle_from_Arknights
@I_Love_Puzzle_from_Arknights 8 ай бұрын
Advance April fool gag
@RCD566
@RCD566 9 ай бұрын
The "Black Blood," comment reminds me of an argument a KZbinr made last year. This person claimed that a person being called "Black", in English historic records, such as the Spanish was an obvious reference to Spanish actually being African. However sensible people understand that the Spanish have a Mediterranean complexion, jet black hair and wore dark clothing. The term "Black" could also be used to define a persons character e.g. "Black hearted."
@chrisgibson5267
@chrisgibson5267 9 ай бұрын
Black was often used as a nickname in England prior to the widespread immigration of black people into the country in the late 20th century. The English Parliamentarian general Sir Thomas Fairfax was referred to as Black Tom due to his dark hair and features. The English pub name Black Boy is believed to be derived from Queen Henrietta's nickname for her son Charles Suart, Charles II. This was for exactly the same reason as Thomas Fairfax. NB Charles was a popular monarch, hence the number of pubs bearing the name Black Boy and Royal Oak. Another term was Blackamoor which was used to refer to North African and Arab Muslims.
@acdcljb
@acdcljb 9 ай бұрын
Or, you know, people who primarily/often wear black clothes. There are many black things in the world.
@dragonsman4733
@dragonsman4733 9 ай бұрын
Yeah like Blackbeard, he wasn't called that because of his skin, he was called it because of his famous beard
@Knoloaify
@Knoloaify 9 ай бұрын
Colors in general aren't always to be taken literally indeed. Bertrand du Guesclin, the Breton general who fought for the Kingdom of France during the Hundred Years War, was described as "black" in period writings. But when you take a look at art from that same period or his tomb effigy, he is obviously not a black African. He was just a Breton with a darker skin tone than his peers and was represented as such. But just having darker skin, was enough for him to be called "black", because that's how the people around him perceived it (most likely because the darkest skin they'd seen was on very tanned Europeans).
@RCD566
@RCD566 9 ай бұрын
@@Knoloaify Yes and the same people don't bother to look for actual historic facts. Using French history, apparently few people know that the famous author, Alexandre Dumas, came from African decent. His paternal Grandmother was a plantation slave and his father, Thomas-Alexandre Dumas Davy de la Pailleterie, was Black and served long enough to become brigadier general, divisional general, and general-in-chief of the French army. So by todays standards, the writer of "The Three Musketeers," was Black.
@ricijs2000
@ricijs2000 8 ай бұрын
As my great aunt used to say ''I dont care what they teach you at school , Oda Nobunaga was a tall blonde female with huge double D's''
@r01d2
@r01d2 8 ай бұрын
that sounds like us when we have grandkids
@Silentpoppy
@Silentpoppy 8 ай бұрын
I heard he had 3 double D's tho?
@futavadumnezo
@futavadumnezo 8 ай бұрын
In anime it literally is 😅
@mabmoh7340
@mabmoh7340 8 ай бұрын
I get that reference 👉
@MB11BM44
@MB11BM44 8 ай бұрын
For those wondering the anime is called Oda Nobuna no Yabou, fire anime ngl
@ronnie5979
@ronnie5979 8 ай бұрын
This is my second comment on your video. I must be honest when I say I was reluctant to watch it just by reading the video title. My being from the US most articles and videos with a title such as yours is overrun with woke ideology. I am just speaking for myself when I say I am tired of this kind of thing. But I must say I enjoyed your video and your comments and explanation were spot on. Keep up the good work.
@TomYawns
@TomYawns 6 ай бұрын
video title includes “is this a woke article?” and you thought it would be a woke video?
@chigozieukwuomah
@chigozieukwuomah 9 ай бұрын
I can reassure anyone who isnt black that sees this, its only African Americans who claim black origins of almost every culture. As an African, I know my history and culture. A show based on feudal Japan should have nothing to do with black people. And this is just ridiculous to think about.
@khorneflakes773
@khorneflakes773 8 ай бұрын
Why do they accuse whites of culturally appropriating everything when that's quite literally what they are doing?
@elleanna5869
@elleanna5869 8 ай бұрын
As a Nigerian I confirm
@burntgrahamcracker2866
@burntgrahamcracker2866 8 ай бұрын
Ah don’t worry I assume most people people understand that Americans at the moment can be a bit weird about race
@switchgear100
@switchgear100 8 ай бұрын
I think part of it comes from a misconception of the Atlantic slave trade. The less crazy people who ask where the black people are might be expecting slaves or lower crewman on trading ships or amongst the European groups to be present. That trade is ongoing during the setting of Shogun but it is not nearly at its height in 1600 and was still in relatively small numbers. So while it is entirely possible that a Portuguese or Butch ship in Japan might have a black person on board the chances are super slim, especially on a Dutch pirate ship.
@echolalia682
@echolalia682 8 ай бұрын
@@switchgear100 As slim as chance as that would be, how much slimmer do you think it would be that that Black person on that Jewish-owned Portuguese or Dutch crewed ship would be accepted by the Japanese and made a samurai? Inb4 muh Yasuke. He was a koshō, not a samurai. Basically the equivalent of a squire. Not the same thing at all
@E4_MAFIA
@E4_MAFIA 8 ай бұрын
This stuff is absolutely insane… Seriously, the population would have been so small, it was insignificant. Why is it that we are constantly seeing demands that black people be included in things that had nothing to do with them?
@alexmeanin8049
@alexmeanin8049 8 ай бұрын
Yep! For example: the film "Apollo 13" does not have Afro-Americans in the space vessel crew. Ridiculous!
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 8 ай бұрын
there were barely any foreigners in japan to begin with, not even there neighbors were there
@andychrist2922
@andychrist2922 8 ай бұрын
Because of the rise of autism within the community, this makes it hard for people to relate to people that aren't similar to themselves imo.
@andychrist2922
@andychrist2922 8 ай бұрын
@@justinhumphrey1516 they didn't "rewrite" anything they just have bias
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 8 ай бұрын
@@andychrist2922 they didnt re write. But they are trying
@fattiger6957
@fattiger6957 9 ай бұрын
Japan, being one of the most ethically homogeneous countries on Earth and a historically isolated nation, is going to reflect that in their pop culture. And western pop culture that wants to faithfully depict Japan should reflect that. Yes, I know there are a few exceptions, and I welcome accurate depictions of that. But one notable African man in the entire history of Japan does not and should not give anyone license to portray pre-modern Japan as a utopia of ethnic diversity. Just because Europeans have allowed the revisionists (aka the cultural imperialists) to destroy their history, doesn't mean those people are allowed to do that to other cultures. It didn't work out well when they tried to steal Egyptian history and it won't end well if they try to steal East Asian history. I eagerly wait for the day when Hollywood tries to "adapt" Journey to the West for "modern audiences". The abject rage that will stir in the Chinese population will be a thing to behold.
@dragonace119
@dragonace119 9 ай бұрын
The Chinese were beyond enraged at that live action remake of Mulan so I can only imagine.
@nodiggity9472
@nodiggity9472 9 ай бұрын
Do yuo liek Mudkips?
@masktuxedo77
@masktuxedo77 9 ай бұрын
They already adapted it multiple time with white characters, aka white washed - thank you very much. Could you please be outrageous about it?
@acdcljb
@acdcljb 9 ай бұрын
"Europeans" is way too broad. Not every country had ports with ships sailing to different continents. Hence homogeneous European countries deep into 20th century.
@dragonsman4733
@dragonsman4733 9 ай бұрын
Mate... I'm afraid they already did adapt jttw. Okay so there's a series set after which is fairly faithful to the original book, but they now release each season in June and their officials now shoehorn in any lgtb into it to market it. They already erased a demons gender making him non-binary even though he was stuck in a memory of ancient china for years where the concept hadn't been invented.
@AWARHERO
@AWARHERO 8 ай бұрын
It's like asking: "Where are the smart people on TikTok?" There are NONE.
@joelfakelastname9597
@joelfakelastname9597 7 ай бұрын
I understand that's a joke, but I think metatron made a tiktok. Also flesh simulator is a deep spectrum genius
@ChrisWilson-rf8cs
@ChrisWilson-rf8cs 7 ай бұрын
They're on Facbook...
@greendalf123
@greendalf123 9 ай бұрын
I'll never forget I saw an article posted up as a meme once, where some African-American SJW type wrote about how one of the earliest Serbian kings/chiefs was black. I was surprised by this, since I'm Croatian and can read Serbian. Turns out they were talking about a Serbian warlord nicknamed Black George (Karadorde). These people actually believe when they see the word "black" describing someone it must literally mean their skin colour. Black George was given that nickname due to being a violent warlord and rebel against the Ottomans. Black is often associated with evil or violence in Europe. So that "black blood" could just mean "evil blood" aka comiting violence and being a bit of a brute. Not being a sub-saharan black man rofl. It's so comical. And as a funny random aside, the first time my friends Croatian grandparents ever saw a black person was when they moved to the US in the 90's. P.S - and yeah sure, I would have liked to see a couple of black sailors on the Dutch ships. I think that's totally fine and accurate... but since said Dutch ships weren't in force in the film, the fact that we have zero black people is a-ok.
@ericadunn9435
@ericadunn9435 9 ай бұрын
Maybe the Black Forest in Germany is where the black people lived 😅
@BelaFox-vt5xu
@BelaFox-vt5xu 9 ай бұрын
@@ericadunn9435 And Edward Black Prince was... You know, it feels like there might be an HBO show about him soon
@backintimealwyn5736
@backintimealwyn5736 9 ай бұрын
it's geting do pathetic seriously. It's almost sad. They claim anything but their own heritage. They are some interesting in Africa, and there is room for more archeologist interested in diging things up ... unfortunately the very people that should be doing that are more interested in claiming other people's civilizations.
@shegocrazy
@shegocrazy 9 ай бұрын
@@BelaFox-vt5xu There was another British royal that AfAms have appropriated that they say proves the English Monarchy has "black" blood. Charlotte of Mecklenburg-Strelitz. Believe it or not.
@Eagle-eye-pie
@Eagle-eye-pie 9 ай бұрын
@@backintimealwyn5736if they claim their own heritage, they will have to accept their part in the Atlantic slave trade.
@lynnhall8720
@lynnhall8720 9 ай бұрын
In Welsh mythology, Gwynn ap Nudd, the King of the Underworld, and Welsh faeries, the Tylwyth Teg, is sometimes referred to as "black" because of his residence in the Underworld. But modern scholars use this as "evidence" that the Welsh faeries were black, therefore all the characters that appear in the Welsh collection of folktales, The Mabinogeon, were also black. Last year, a depiction of the Celtic goddess Bridget, was depicted as an overweight black woman. This is appropriation of a whole culture! 😠
@nvelsen1975
@nvelsen1975 9 ай бұрын
How strange! I mean, who the would want to be Welsh, nevermind pretend?
@inferiorinferno8859
@inferiorinferno8859 9 ай бұрын
The funny thing: the black thing and the underworld thing is in turn in line with the Germanic tales of what can be considered the oldest variant of the Wild Hunt myth, which depicts the Wild Hunt being the souls of people who died a violent death and Germanic tribes wore black warpaint as it symbolized death. This actually inspired the so-called 'Blackface' traidition behind the Dutch Sinterklaas and why BLM's propoganda about it being adopted in the colonial times is false. People simply thought black people were less mysstical during the Renaissance and opted to change the meaning. I hate how they've gotten us shamed by the UN for having such a tradition when the origins have nothing to do with race and keeping the afro wigs out of it was the easiest solution to solve the issue.
@Kainis80
@Kainis80 9 ай бұрын
therein is the problem with most black westerners. They are often too disinterested in learning history, and indeed claim they don't really have one of their own "because slavery", and then turn around and appropriate those from whatever is deemed the current "it" culture, whether it's Egypt, Danish, Irish, Welsh (you ought to hear them try and claim Arthur Pendragon was black), or even meso-American. All the while being completely uninterested in learning about their own ancient cultures from Sub-Saharan Africa.
@dkeith45
@dkeith45 9 ай бұрын
Many of those Keltic names referred to the color of the persons HAIR. Some examples from Scotland are Rob Dubh which means Rob Black. And Rob Roy, which means Rob Red. Ofc the English speakers turn the names around a bit and would say Black Rob and Red Roy. It's also known those from the Keltic underworld were often referred to as 'Dark'. Some ppl considered to be related to Elves, fairies, shifters etc were sometimes called 'Dark ones' referring to their supposed heritage, not their skin color.
@UnLancheroMuyPenudo
@UnLancheroMuyPenudo 9 ай бұрын
Its their fault for not mentioning in the tales if they had human sizes cocks or not. Or how good they were at dunkin' it.
@emmitstewart1921
@emmitstewart1921 8 ай бұрын
As for the "White Saviour" motif, the hero was totally manipulated by the shogun from the beginning. He never saved, led, or taught the Japanese anything except for teaching his workers some western principles of shipbuilding. His descendants appear as the Anjin family in the novel Noble House. Apparently, he never got his ship built and never returned to England, though his descendants continued building ships up to modern times.
@ChaoticYak1
@ChaoticYak1 8 ай бұрын
Oh really? I didn't know it was connected to Noble House. I haven't read the book, but there was a 1980s miniseries starring Pierce Brosnan that I watched.
@shavannya
@shavannya 8 ай бұрын
@@ChaoticYak1 you watch wrong tv. NEVER pierce brosnan it was Richard Chamberlain. 😂
@ChaoticYak1
@ChaoticYak1 8 ай бұрын
@@shavannya Noble House was made into a miniseries in 1988 and it starred Pierce Brosnan. I'm not talking about the 80s miniseries of Shogun.
@petrospetromixos6962
@petrospetromixos6962 8 ай бұрын
White savior movies are best movies,they make sence
@unknown-fq9sw
@unknown-fq9sw 8 ай бұрын
​@@petrospetromixos6962 how does it make sense tho ? and maybe try to ask the people from the culture that ofren used in white savior movie how they feel about it
@kontrarien5721
@kontrarien5721 8 ай бұрын
How is the 1980 Shogun White Savior? Sure, Blackthorn is the main character and helps Toranaga - yes even literally saving his life. However, the Anjin is constantly being buffeted about by forces beyond his control, constantly thwarted in achieving his goals, and ultimately ends up on the wrong side of a tragic ending that sees him losing his love interest and struggling in vain to regain agency while Toranaga literally looks down on him, declaring that the Anjin can struggle all he wants but will always belong to Toranaga.
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 7 ай бұрын
It was bigger in Last Samurai where they made Saito some sort of country bumpkin.
@milliechook7375
@milliechook7375 6 ай бұрын
Exactly as in the book.
@TomYawns
@TomYawns 6 ай бұрын
spoilers dude
@kontrarien5721
@kontrarien5721 6 ай бұрын
​@@TomYawns Sorry if I spoiled it for you. It *is* over forty years old, though. Go watch and compare!
@BIATEC88
@BIATEC88 8 ай бұрын
How could anyone accuse the character of being a "White Saviour" the man is completely at their mercy.
@skaarphy5797
@skaarphy5797 8 ай бұрын
I think he couldn't quite differentiate between "hero of the story" and "white savior".
@jean-louispech4921
@jean-louispech4921 8 ай бұрын
oh yes now i have some memories about the original serial, and it was always tense for the hero. The guy was more the savior of his life than the savior of the Japaneses.
@JohnSmith-op7ls
@JohnSmith-op7ls 8 ай бұрын
Once you realize they know they’re lying and their goal isn’t to present any truth, but to mislead you into giving them money and power, you no longer have to ask “how” or “why”. The answer is always the same: It’s a con
@Sgtspork
@Sgtspork 8 ай бұрын
Sure, he is a character who's perspective we see most of the story through... Ie a main protagonist.. But he's far from the white savior trope. Hell, he's not even the dances with wolves trope really. He's just trying to survive and thrive as best he can under the current circumstances he finds himself in. Sure his new weapon tech and battle tactics are valued by the Japanese noble but he's far from some savior, lol.. he's not even that skilled in those things and bluffed a bit for his survival by inflating his potential worth.
@morell1185
@morell1185 8 ай бұрын
Hes tom cruise in the last samurai
@RavenRunFoxRoam
@RavenRunFoxRoam 9 ай бұрын
I'm Iranian/American. I once had a group of Afro Centrists tell me that ancient Persia was black.
@satyalouis-guepin7692
@satyalouis-guepin7692 8 ай бұрын
They are trying to over compensate their mediocrity by stealing other people great cultures. They want the prestige but without the hard work it takes to create anything great. They just come off as sore losers. It's really pahtetic really.
@Elora445
@Elora445 8 ай бұрын
Seriously. Could there have been black people there, sure! Especially considering the Persian empire, how widespread it was plus their trading with pretty much anyone.But calling the culture itself black? No, just no.
@satyalouis-guepin7692
@satyalouis-guepin7692 8 ай бұрын
@@Elora445 There were they are still there in some places. But they were ... slaves.
@Elora445
@Elora445 8 ай бұрын
@@satyalouis-guepin7692 You are speaking to someone who is very well aware who was trading with who and which cultures had slaves (most of them). But indeed.
@rachelcoleman4693
@rachelcoleman4693 8 ай бұрын
There are even people who claim that Finland used to be black.
@grandmufftwerkin9037
@grandmufftwerkin9037 9 ай бұрын
Blackthorne spent more time at the mercy of events outside of his control in every iteration of Shogun, from the novel to both TV series.
@richardhockey8442
@richardhockey8442 9 ай бұрын
the ending of the 80's Tv series make it clear the Blackthorn has very little control of his destiny outside of the structure of japanese society, and is probably only alive because he managed to prove useful to Toranaga.
@Kainis80
@Kainis80 9 ай бұрын
@@richardhockey8442 as was the case for anyone outside of the daimyo. If you survived, it was because you were somehow deemed useful to someone with more authority.
@alexyoon-sungcucina7895
@alexyoon-sungcucina7895 9 ай бұрын
Then why even have him as a character? Oh that's right, so fragile white audiences have a character and representation otherwise they wouldn't watch. Same shit as fragile wokesters.
@irena4545
@irena4545 9 ай бұрын
@@richardhockey8442 Here it even aired on TV as "Prisoner of Japanese Islands" - it just screams "hero and saviour", doesn't it?
@Farinhir
@Farinhir 8 ай бұрын
Umm, during the time that Shogun was supposed to take place, the Tokugawa period for those wondering, Japan traded solely with the Dutch and Chinese. And for that they had a specific harbor by which said foreigners were allowed to approach. They were an entirely closed society. No whites allowed. No blacks allowed. Nobody of Latin origin allowed. Nobody that was not ethnically Japanese was allowed. Usually to be put to death if they did try to enter. So where were all the blacks? Either elsewhere or dead.
@andersschmich8600
@andersschmich8600 9 ай бұрын
Its one of those things where yes, theororetically there could have been a Black person present, but I guarantee your that these same people would not obsess over the lack of the small number of European merchants in a show about 13th century China.
@kinghoodofmousekind2906
@kinghoodofmousekind2906 9 ай бұрын
Exactly! Like, it's a fact that there were travellers and merchants from Europe in many Countries outside Europe, but the numbers were so low it would be understandable if they are not mentioned in stories or chronicles of the time. A few were recorded, but they were exceptions, not the rule.
@acdcljb
@acdcljb 9 ай бұрын
Even 2 000 in 12 000 000 is extremely low number. And a fraction of 2 000 is even smaller number. And it makes sense they would be primarily at the commercial ports.
@nomdeguerre8464
@nomdeguerre8464 9 ай бұрын
​@@acdcljbwell, at least 50% in the commercials!
@One.Zero.One101
@One.Zero.One101 9 ай бұрын
And yet everyone loves Tom Cruise when he plays the White Savior. Insecure White Men are so yucky.
@adambielen8996
@adambielen8996 9 ай бұрын
Where the Chinese merchants at is the real question.
@davidk6269
@davidk6269 9 ай бұрын
On a related note, I'm outraged that there were no Japanese people in the 1986 television mini-series "Shaka Zulu"!!! LOL
@morghe321
@morghe321 9 ай бұрын
Good point.
@MagcargoMan
@MagcargoMan 9 ай бұрын
It says a lot about you people that the only black historical figure you ever bother naming was a tribal leader.
@redjem6918
@redjem6918 9 ай бұрын
​@@MagcargoManhe didn't name a historical figure, he named a 1986 movie.
@MagcargoMan
@MagcargoMan 9 ай бұрын
@@redjem6918 And where does that movie's name come from, brightspark?
@redjem6918
@redjem6918 9 ай бұрын
​@MagcargoMan from the mid-nineteenth century Zulu king who murdered one million Africans in his quest to build an empire. But you completely missed the point: the comment was about representation in contemporary entertainment, not about historical figures. Smartarse.
@Coltman733
@Coltman733 9 ай бұрын
Where are the black people in Shogun? Answer: They are ALL in every TV commercials!
@CrimsonUniverse22
@CrimsonUniverse22 8 ай бұрын
Thank god I’m not the only one who noticed this. I once saw three commercials in a row where the main character was black, or it literally had an all black cast. They’ve come to the point of being profoundly overrepresented in commercials, and the pandering is so obvious. And this is coming from an Asian!!
@smudgeyarksha3514
@smudgeyarksha3514 8 ай бұрын
With white woman partners too - My daughters are marrying a white man only when they' re of age!
@dchaz3.0dacan18
@dchaz3.0dacan18 8 ай бұрын
And in large beautiful suburban homes.
@heldermonteiro2718
@heldermonteiro2718 8 ай бұрын
@@smudgeyarksha3514 what?
@Jaydavid25.
@Jaydavid25. 8 ай бұрын
​@@smudgeyarksha3514 You don't have to be like that my guy.. That's extreme..
@MrCroky123
@MrCroky123 8 ай бұрын
Great stuff man ! Great stuff ! Thank you for your work and insights into this issue.
@mintto-108
@mintto-108 8 ай бұрын
I have never seen African American people in my city in japan even in 2024. I met some very nice African American people in Tokyo and I truly hope they enjoy living in Japan but I don’t understand this discussion at all….Japan have been described wrongly at Many Hollywood movies, so the cast s and producers from shogun wanted to show authentic Japan with their effort so just because diversity is the trend in recent years, it does not mean they should include all races in one movie. If somebody says it’s racist opinion, I accept the opinion. I’m ok to be a racist based on their definition of racist.
@BigUriel
@BigUriel 8 ай бұрын
It's not racist and you shouldn't accept the opinion of someone who thinks stating an objective, verifiable historical fact is facist, because they are morons and no one should ever list to what they have to say about anything.
@checkmate9111
@checkmate9111 8 ай бұрын
African American or Black ?? Elon Musk is African American. You are either American or not….
@mintto-108
@mintto-108 8 ай бұрын
@@checkmate9111 sorry I meant black people, now I don’t know what words are appropriate to use.
@loki007420
@loki007420 8 ай бұрын
@@mintto-108 noone knows
@IsaacHarvison-mt5xt
@IsaacHarvison-mt5xt 8 ай бұрын
​@@checkmate9111Elon musk was born in South Africa he is African but you have racist saying he not he was born there he is African double standards
@digitalperson108
@digitalperson108 8 ай бұрын
I swear, if people put as much energy into being helpful and productive in society as they do being outraged and attempting to support non-existent infractions such as this…..oh what a world we would have!
@metatronyt
@metatronyt 8 ай бұрын
I agree
@madyjules
@madyjules 8 ай бұрын
@@metatronyt my reply is a TL:DR for everyone else. read it if you want it’ll probably bore the shit out of you. lol Hey Meta, great vid dude, thank you. Meta., you asked for impressions and here’s mine in 3 points: 1 I honestly think that the recent ridiculous and frankly embarrassing attempts to place Black people in settings where they were never present is a reactionary attempt by Black peoples (see below). it’s also a sad attempt to create an inclusion that never existed and minimize depressing representation. BUT obviously this isn’t the answer either… Shoehorning Black people into settings which are historically inaccurate is false and ridiculous This doesn’t help anyone… unless it’s a fantasy show (House of the Dragon , for example) this needs to stop. A glaring example of one of those ridiculous attempts at an inclusion that never occurred was the Netflix show that showed Cleopatra as black and that is completely inaccurate. I know my history, the last pharaoh of Egypt, Cleopatra, was Greek and Macedonian. why cling on to falsehoods like this it helps no one. It doesn’t help Black people and it causes those with racist leanings to come out of the woodwork and wreak havoc for their own glee and enjoyment. 2 depressing representation of Black people has existed since the infancy of the film and television industry. Can you imagine what it must do to people to only see themselves portrayed as slaves and otherwise individuals with no personal agency? I know it would depress the hell out of me if my people, Italians, were constantly displayed in this way! Yes we’ve made the necessary films and movies displaying the horrific evils done to Black peoples for hundreds of years and these films and TV series are important for each new generation to be aware of and watch. but they’re also needs to be NEW films and TV based on the true history of Black peoples back before enslavement and horrific oppression that existed both on the African continent and around the world. To the deepest depths of hell with people like Ron DeSantis and many others who are determined to push through curriculums devoid of fully educating young people on the atrocities perpetrated upon Black and indigenous peoples (especially all the many Native American tribes ) because knowledge of this history might make white kids feel bad!! give me a f’ing break!! Oh no, their feelings might get hurt!! Hell w that -> True and full knowledge of human history, both the good and the truly freaking awful committed by our messed up species, is crucial. 3. there is a real need to make accurate movies and TV shows displaying the rich and historically accurate history of African peoples. the entertainment industry is showing Black people where they weren’t in the past; or people are getting outraged because there’s no black representation in movies or shows when it makes absolutely no sense that you should expect a black person to be present or part of said show as you aptly discuss in this Shōgun video. I blame the entertainment industry because: with very few exceptions they continue to churn out depressing and ultimately dehumanizing movies and series displaying only the painful experiences of Black people i.e. slavery, oppression, and terrifying experiences, like lynching. As stated earlier, the African continent, has a rich and amazing history. My eyes were opened to this when I watched the incredibly well done six episodes series, “Africa’s Great Civilizations“ presented by Dr. Henry Lewis Gates, Jr. I watched it on PBS (it’s available on PBS.org) and it’s also available on other streaming channels like Amazon Prime for anyone who’s interested. I encourage everyone to watch this show. We’re one human family, no matter the shade of our skin or the color of our eyes, etc.. I think the reason why Black people look for something to desperately hang on to is because they’ve been stripped of so much. how about our media begin to make stories from the true and rich history of the African continent and its people Full disclosure: I’m white, specifically Italian-American with ancestors (grandparents and great grandparents and further back for many centuries from Lecce in Apulia on my paternal side and from Salerno and Caserta on my maternal side) and because I’m white , I expect that many who read my comment will tell me I have no right to discuss this… Nevertheless my message is supportive and positive. Having been born and raised in the USA with very Italian grandparents and parents on both sides of my family; I’ve been immersed in both the American and Italian cultures from infancy. With several trips back to Italy, my ancestral homeland. I know it gives me a great sense of pride to know who I am, and where I come from, as well as the rich, cultural history that comes with being of Italian ancestry. Can you imagine being stripped of this? Well, that’s the reality for people who are part of the Black diaspora. It must be soul crushing. Instead of being critical and negative, how about we try to have empathy and compassion? how about making an effort to show the accurate and rich achievements that make up the history of black peoples of the African continent as well as those of Black individuals living outside of Africa. In the meantime, give that Henry Lewis Gates, Jr. show a watch… it’s worth your time, and I say this with all sincerity and respect to everyone, no matter the color of your skin. we must respect each other, truly respect each other, and often respect only comes with understanding. Peace.
@audioiconoclayst
@audioiconoclayst 8 ай бұрын
Well put
@t-bonet-bone713
@t-bonet-bone713 8 ай бұрын
Hear hear!!
@sadizm
@sadizm 8 ай бұрын
hahahah LOVE IT!
@YouDontKnowMe2011.9
@YouDontKnowMe2011.9 8 ай бұрын
OMG...an educated, intelligent discrediting of what was intentionally a woke, agenda-driven article. Thank you.
@harumatsu3731
@harumatsu3731 8 ай бұрын
literally, i mean it, the only actual record based discussion up on youtube about the woke vs showb i've trespassed. nice vid
@micheledeetlefs6041
@micheledeetlefs6041 9 ай бұрын
It's also not a white savior for another reason. Spoiler warning. John's ship will be burned to the ground before any real conclusive battle takes place. Therefore, neither he nor his cannon make any ultimate difference in the battle. Toronaga wins because he is remarkably adept at being patient and waiting for opportunities. He plays the people around him effectively off one another until he gets an opportunity to make a decisive battle and wins that battle. Blackthorn has virtually nothing to do with it. In the end, we discovered Toronaga never intends to have John build a ship to take on the Portuguese. He's keeping Blackthorn around because he believes that he needs one friend to keep himself grounded, and has determined that John would be the best option for that role specifically because he is not Japanese and honestly has no japanese-based ambitions. So John isn't the white savior. He's more like the white kept pet.
@TheRomanTribune
@TheRomanTribune 9 ай бұрын
Nailed it
@bob7975
@bob7975 9 ай бұрын
Also, he would lose so much face if Anjin-san left there would be no words in any language to describe it. Blackthorn is ultimately just a grand distraction for the other warlords, Toranaga's enemies and rivals.
@niji8164
@niji8164 9 ай бұрын
does anyone have examples of movies and tv shows where the 'white savior' thing is real
@MarcIverson
@MarcIverson 9 ай бұрын
@@niji8164 A Man Called Horse and The Return of the Man Called Horse, starring Richard Harris. It's fairly absurd, though the first one is terrifically entertaining. He teaches the Native Americans to shoot arrows all lined up in rows like the British, though that was not so good for closer-up warfare as compared to, say, the range and effectiveness of British longbows, and played against the strength of many Native American tribes.
@aetius7139
@aetius7139 9 ай бұрын
In real life, william adams really did play integral part in tokugawa shogunate as he became a liason between the japanese and the dutch traders in dejima. Contrary to popular beliefs, japanese isolation is not complete isolation of japan from the world. Its a strict border policy. No foreigners in, and no japanese out. The tokugawa shogunate secretly studies the western tecnology through their exchanges with the dutch. Thats why during bakumatsu period. All Western studies is called "Rangaku" meaning "Dutch learning". And the people who learn western ideas often deregatory called the "dutchies" in contempt by a more traditional samurai class. The first time the american delegation to shogunate. Townsend harris, has no problem of language barrier. Due to him bringing dutch-american born interpreter, Henry Heusken.
@rairaiken4007
@rairaiken4007 8 ай бұрын
This reminded me of a comment I read in Facebook where commenter wrote that Filipinos are black. They don't want to admit it because of shame and racism. Many agreed with the commenter but I was just floored. Filipinos are Malay! Few of us have Chinese ancestry and even fewer have European ancestry. But I have never read in our history books or studies that say we are predominantly African.
@inicolov
@inicolov 8 ай бұрын
Well now you know, and knowing is half the battle 😂
@Samchanne21
@Samchanne21 8 ай бұрын
I am also Filipino, but from my understanding and what I was learned, Aeta people were also part of being Filipino, just like Cebuano, Bisayan, Tausug, etc., however, it doesn’t mean that all Filipinos are black; we have diverse colors, ranges from brown, tan, black, fair, and that’s what it matters.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 8 ай бұрын
Hello as a filipino i have to correct just a bit of what you said kababayan. Filipinos arent Malay, it has been debunked already. Our ancestors came from taiwan and migrated first to the Philippines, and in our northern area is the most genetically related to the native taiwanese. SO in reality We are the closest people to the austronesians of taiwan and its the other way around. We arent malay, and we didn't come from malays it is the malays and every other austronesian from southeast Asia to the pacific islands came from us. We are their distant ancestors. As for the mixtures of our people yes most are austronesian that is true. Spanish mixture is very limited because we were the farthest colony and we were never a settler colony which judging from ur comment i think you already knew. The most mixture we would ever have would probably come from the Chinese ofc this does not include other southeast asians because that's obvious. The Chinese have been trading with us for longer periods of time and constant migration was indeed happening especially from the Spanish era and post American era. Not to mention there are still Chinese influx here and i doubt that will stop soon. And ofc here and there there were mixtures of south asian and some arabs. As for the original filipinos were "black" African. Yes i have seen those posts mostly in facebook, it is done by Afrocentrists who thought the "negrito" or should i say aeta were black due to their features such as very dark skin, coily hair and nose shape. While genetic studies shows that they are similar to us austronesians than anyone in Africa. Not to mention they look exactly like us but with darker skin and curlier hair, but that is also due to that our ancestors mixed with them so in such a way there is no longer a pure aeta.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 8 ай бұрын
@@Samchanne21 thats true, thou the aeta were originally different. The reason why we treat them as our ancestors because nowadays they are mixed, no more pure aeta nowadays. As for skin color people act that We filipinos have 1 skin tone which is brown, but even brown has different shades. I have more of an olive complexion but in the summer i get really dark because i don't care if i tan or not. But a lot are even pale, which is due to social status.
@VVayVVard
@VVayVVard 8 ай бұрын
That's completely backwards. The reason Sub-Saharan Africans look so distinct from almost every other population on Earth is because of the Saharan desert acting as a natural barrier to migration. In addition, if you wanted to get to the Philippines from there, you would have to cross/get around other natural barriers like the Arabian desert, the Zagros mountains and (of course) the sea. Due to these restrictions, Filipinos and Sub-Saharan Africans are likely some of the most distantly related populations on the planet.
@drlizzardo4373
@drlizzardo4373 8 ай бұрын
The original Mini-series was based on a version edited by James Clavell himself by request to tell the story through the eyes of Blackthorn. The new version is based on the original book so it contains events where Blackthorn was not a participant. As far as Blackthorn being a White saviour he was a prisoner for the rest of his life and was never released by the Japanese, they used his knowledge of weapons for there own benefit.
@Muschelschubs3r
@Muschelschubs3r 8 ай бұрын
He never returned to Britain, but he untertook several sea voyages to the Philippines, Siam and India (not sure about that last one. Some prisoner 🙄
@drlizzardo4373
@drlizzardo4373 8 ай бұрын
@@Muschelschubs3r Im not sure about the guy his based on, Blackthorn the character in the book never left Japan its been a good 30 years since I read the book, I may be wrong
@joeroganjosh9333
@joeroganjosh9333 8 ай бұрын
If I remember rightly the book makes it quite clear Blackthorne never returned to England, the tone of the passage paints him as a rather tragic figure, repeatedly building a ship to take him home only to have it destroyed by the shogun who wanted to keep him as a valuable resource, a kind of free slave.
@Njbear7453
@Njbear7453 8 ай бұрын
Their * their * own benefit.
@drlizzardo4373
@drlizzardo4373 8 ай бұрын
@@Njbear7453 Thankyou gramma police I have auto check on and for some reason it screws with Australian English
@StitchFC
@StitchFC 8 ай бұрын
Historical fact, Japan was a closed country for a very long time, the black samurai being referenced simply did not historically exist. Black people would have been killed as foreigners not allowed within Japan, unless they were with the Dutch and not integrated at all in Japanese culture.
@mikelincoln8395
@mikelincoln8395 9 ай бұрын
The BBC has children’s programmes saying the English and the Irish were actually black. They even show Black African’s in Celtic mythology and Celtic dress.
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL 9 ай бұрын
Supposedly The Twa pygmies of The Congo who migrated to Ireland were the inspiration for leprechauns /Wee people There's lots of evidence to this also
@ElectricSoul828
@ElectricSoul828 9 ай бұрын
This is disturbing. Weak Europeans let their history and culture be corrupted
@slynt_
@slynt_ 9 ай бұрын
@adamjoyce3126 Survive the Jive has debunked the "ancient britons/irish were black" myth
@CuchulainAD
@CuchulainAD 9 ай бұрын
​@adamjoyce3126No that's RTE propaganda... don't believe the hype
@Tallorian
@Tallorian 9 ай бұрын
@adamjoyce3126depictions of mesolithic western hunter-gatherers are often intentionally darkened by the media to make them look almost subsaharan black. I recall seeing a comparison on how scientists actually color them compared to how the same images appear in woke articles online (very blackened).
@revolutionaryhamburger
@revolutionaryhamburger 9 ай бұрын
"Many researchers have documented the suggestion of and existence of Africans in Japan, one dating back to 22,000 years, near Osaka, where much of the Shogun series took place." I don't know much about big number dates but my grandmother always told me 22,000 years ago Osaka was an unlikely place to pick up a fresh parcel of Africans.
@njalsand133
@njalsand133 9 ай бұрын
A booming trade >_>
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 9 ай бұрын
@ConontheBinarian- Australian aboriginals share genetic markers with some Asian ethnic groups (I can't recall which ones). The English tended to use 'black' and the n-word to refer to Melanesians, various ethnic groups in India, darker Middle Easterners/North Africans, and sub-Saharan Africans.
@kellysouter4381
@kellysouter4381 9 ай бұрын
Listen to Granny 😂😂
@kellysouter4381
@kellysouter4381 9 ай бұрын
​@@julietfischer5056aborigines came from Java, Indonesia, about 40,000 to 50,000 years ago. Greetings from Adelaide.
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 9 ай бұрын
@ConontheBinarian- Yes. Because their ancestors came from Asia.
@Lydelith
@Lydelith 8 ай бұрын
If it weren't so serious, it would just be laughable. In the current context, it's highly dangerous.
@bobchronister3429
@bobchronister3429 8 ай бұрын
As usual, spot on analysis. Thank you for your thoughtful insight
@SuperChicken666
@SuperChicken666 9 ай бұрын
I lived in Japan for two years myself, and every day I asked, "Where are all the blacks and Porto Ricans?"
@vanessashimoni6548
@vanessashimoni6548 9 ай бұрын
Answer: ummm… NYC? 🤷🏻‍♀️
@PR-cj8pd
@PR-cj8pd 8 ай бұрын
They are around Shinjuku and Ropongi giving out flyers to nightclubs
@matthewoppp6881
@matthewoppp6881 8 ай бұрын
thats why there is no crime
@slyninja4444
@slyninja4444 9 ай бұрын
Why aren't there any black people in Shogun? Same reason why there's no Asian people in Black Panther.
@nhansen197
@nhansen197 9 ай бұрын
If the phrase "In order for a samurai to be brave, he must have a bit of black blood" is a real proverb, it's been grossly misinterpreted. In modern tradition, black is a manly color, an enlightened color, often used by the Samurai class in antiquity. Black may also be interchangeable with purple and in Shinto corresponds to North and ara-mitama (荒御霊・荒御魂, Wild Spirit). Ergo, if the proverb did indeed exist it's correct reading would likely be "In order for a samurai to be brave, he must have a wild spirit." I think it best I go beyond Green Shinto and Wikipedia to back up my educated guess on the subject. "Aramitama: An abundance of this quality leads to an active metabolism and healthy bones and muscles. It is likely to stimulate a person's athletic interests and prowess, and along with a strong will and increased energy and vitality. It also happens that people with a strong element of aramitama tend to lose their more graceful manners and assume at times a wild and combative air. ..." Motohisa Yamakage: The Essence of Shinto. I hope this helps.
@EyeOfTheWatcher
@EyeOfTheWatcher 9 ай бұрын
The fact they only used an out of context statement to back up their beliefs is a red flag and the sad thing is a heard a black american professor state that bull as fact. Can't really take anything serious from him going forward.
@VladimirMizich
@VladimirMizich 9 ай бұрын
"Black blood" in that context is clearly a metaphor and is specific to the Japanese culture. Having "red blood" or something akin (pink, red) was a metaphor for being honest, being pure, being loyal. When committing seppuku, to restore their honor for example, the Japanese were showing their innards to their masters/lords so as to show "look, my innards are red, they aren't black, I'm not rotten, I'm not corrupt, I'm honorable". "Black blood" just means the opposite of "red blood". "Black blood" is a metaphor for darkness, corruption, weight of the world, having seen too much, struggle, a dark soul if you interpret it to the extreme. So in the saying "In order for a samurai to be brave, he must have a bit of black blood" it is simply implied that he must have a bit of darkness in him - a bit of "dirt" if you will. He can't be too pure. In Chinese culture there is a proverb (I'm going to butcher it, sorry) that goes something like "perfectly clean water can't feed an organism" or "there are no fish in a perfectly clean lake", something like that, basically implying when it's used in context that it's important to have impurities. Different cultures have different sayings for this, but ultimately those ideas are all metaphors to express two sides of a coin: Light VS Dark, Red VS Black, pure/innocent VS rugged/stoic. They are METAPHORS. This has nothing to do with skin color.
@nhansen197
@nhansen197 9 ай бұрын
Please read my response before going into a long winded explanation about black blood being a metaphor and corresponding to rot and talking about skin color. I did not mention skin color even once. I was attempting to address the alleged proverb through the lens of Shinto. Saying someone must have black blood, while suggesting it is a metaphor for rot, to be brave, is utter nonsense. To know if the proverb is even real we would need to see it in its historical context.
@matham625
@matham625 9 ай бұрын
thanks .. very interesting
@rangerchief8004
@rangerchief8004 9 ай бұрын
If they were black they would be burning, looting, and murdering so Japan would look like Chicago. They love claiming other cultures as their own.
@bendalton5221
@bendalton5221 8 ай бұрын
even including the Ainu people from the original article, there were not black people in Japan in 1600. The Ainu aren't very dark skinned, hardly any different than what we think of as traditional Japanese people. Plus, The Ainu were indigenous to the northern island of Hokkaido, plus the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin Island. Given that the vast majority of "Shogun" takes place in the area around Kyoto and Edo (Tokyo), it would follow that you would not have any Ainu in this story. An analogy would be if I wrote a story about people first settled in Virginia, and all of the settings for the story were in the area between Richmond and Fredericksburg, and someone got pissed because they wondered why there weren't any Cajuns from Louisiana in the story
@olewyrdd
@olewyrdd 7 ай бұрын
Or why no Japanese?
@maryjohnston4296
@maryjohnston4296 7 ай бұрын
Good analogy:)
@alpharius_nox
@alpharius_nox 9 ай бұрын
This is the type of misrepresentation that does more harm than good when trying to uncover historical truth of African peoples, thanks for the honest review, Metatron.
@metatronyt
@metatronyt 9 ай бұрын
My pleasure
@weskerwillie9044
@weskerwillie9044 9 ай бұрын
18:26 it only does more harm than good because it triggers a racist response from your people. If we argued right now that ancient Greeks and romans looked nothing like modern Europeans (despite modern Europeans pretending they looked like them) it would be a normal argument (hopefully) and wouldn't automatically paint Europeans in a bad light. Another example is modern Europeans arguing that they were in north Africa thousands of years ago. Now as ridiculous as that is, Africans aren't eager to paint all Europeans in a bad light. Piont being made here is that your people's eagerness to view black people in a racist way shouldn't be why black people don't make mistakes or tell you truths about themselves you never knew because your educational system was too racist to let you know and would rather lie to you that most of an entire continent was full of jungle people until they were colonized. Let's be real here. Black people are not the problem. We have been destroyed physically, psychologically and historically through racism at the hands of white people. Repairing that damage is not going to be a straight road. You are in no position to determine how we heal. You are in no position to determine which black population we get to identify with as blacks and which we do not. Educate your people to let go of that racist behavior
@Chuck_EL
@Chuck_EL 9 ай бұрын
​@@metatronyt unfortunately there's many racist trolls coming in here who just want to use racist agendas to prove "inferior" black people I agree that black people shouldn't just claim every nation was them And I'm glad you referred to Europeans in terms of weaponry were superior not that they were Keep up the good work sir
@MagcargoMan
@MagcargoMan 9 ай бұрын
Making constant videos about niche woke complaints and revisionism very few people actually believe on a channel with a large right-wing following while simultaneously refusing to make a single video dispelling lies conservatives spread about Sub-Saharan Africa is also doing more harm than good.
@cahallo5964
@cahallo5964 9 ай бұрын
​@@MagcargoMan What lies need disproving? name 1 example
@MikeDelaney-ie4je
@MikeDelaney-ie4je 9 ай бұрын
I have grave misgivings about black people in some roles. For instance, showing black people as members of the English aristocracy in 18th century England. There was one daughter, who was black, brought up in England. Just one. To portray black people in positions of power is insulting to the memories of the vast number of black people who suffered on the Atlantic Slave route.
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 9 ай бұрын
It depends on the time and place because history is not simple. I recently read a book titled _On Savage Shores,_ about Native American interactions with Europe and Europeans. They weren't helpless victims: many high-ranking indigenes traveled to negotiate and treat with European leaders. I've no doubt that it was the same with various African, Middle Eastern, and West Asian peoples in their dealings with Europeans (and, later, East Asians).
@globalist1990
@globalist1990 9 ай бұрын
It's interesting this only happens within English speaking cultures. ✌️
@Reggaebeatman
@Reggaebeatman 9 ай бұрын
​@@julietfischer5056you read 1 book and make conclusions with No Doubt 😅
@chrisdiokno5600
@chrisdiokno5600 9 ай бұрын
@@Reggaebeatman tbf trade and merchants did often congregrate in large cities
@julietfischer5056
@julietfischer5056 9 ай бұрын
@@Reggaebeatman- I read a lot of books. History is interesting.
@New_Age_Drifter
@New_Age_Drifter 9 ай бұрын
It's funny to think that maybe the people writing these articles are so used to "diversity" being forced into their everyday content they seriously question their notion of reality whenever accurate representation is shown.
@MaxBraver555
@MaxBraver555 9 ай бұрын
Well, their “diversity” don’t really care about others, it’s just black by default
@jasonlow8715
@jasonlow8715 8 ай бұрын
The same people who insisted that Cleopatra was black as well? Why not say that the first human on earth was black as well? Just to keep them happy, just agree and life goes on.
@Yattayatta
@Yattayatta 9 ай бұрын
It remains a mystery to me how some of these people seem to not understand why different people look different. They grew up in different parts of the world separate from each other. You don't need to go back to 1600 Japan, I often visit Chongqing, a very big Chinese city, one of the biggest, and I'm almost always the only non Chinese person there. If I go just to the outskirts, people will run up to me to take selfies, an older lady asked if I was sick because she never saw blue eyes before. And this is a city with an international airport, Western people can't comprehend how extremely rare it is to see a non native person in certain parts of the world.
@codinghusky5196
@codinghusky5196 9 ай бұрын
It's not "the western people", it's the difference between westernised blacks and the rest of the world. When Korean tourists started arriving to my small, entirely white Slavic village; myself and many a local woman faced crowds of giggling korean men insisting on group photos with women over a foot taller than them XD It was both hilarious and fun; because most of them spoke viable English and one could get them to hang out for a while and talk about their home country. It was fun. ok then korona struck and there were no more tourists. But had they tried this with westernised black women, I GUARANTEE you they'd still be in court facing accusations of gross racism hate crime and evildoey hateybad. Imagine if footage of korean men doing this in a black village in Africa leaked in public?! There'd be riots in the streets all over the west. The western society needs to rein in this form of racism. I'm sorry, but people need to get over themselves. You're not special. You're just black.
@airynod
@airynod 9 ай бұрын
Even if you live in Hong Kong, you won't see foreigner on daily basis except certain districts.
@lek1223
@lek1223 9 ай бұрын
how is that city? its on my bucketlist to go, its just... a pain to get to price wise
@theStamax
@theStamax 9 ай бұрын
Yeah I've lived in China for quite a while and can confirm this. It's very common for people to look at you funny or ask questions, which if asked in a Western Country to a non-native many would consider "racist", but I've never felt offended by this. Many just don't know and there was no maliciousness intended (at least the vast majority of times). Quite the opposite. It was often a show of interest to learn about me.
@EyeOfTheWatcher
@EyeOfTheWatcher 9 ай бұрын
it is because they want to center themselves in other people's history because they are too lazy to do actual research on their own.
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041
@dragonofhatefulretribution9041 9 ай бұрын
“Where are the black people in Sh…” -Exactly where they should be. *Not Japan.*
@nomisunrider6472
@nomisunrider6472 9 ай бұрын
Look up Yasuke and get back to me.
@TossMySalad69
@TossMySalad69 9 ай бұрын
​@@nomisunrider6472 It still was 99.99% Japanese mate and he's the only recorded black man in Japan from that time that we know of.
@nomisunrider6472
@nomisunrider6472 9 ай бұрын
@@TossMySalad69 And William Adams was one of the only recorded white men and yet he gets to be a major protagonist. Edit: sorry for the spam it wasn’t going through.
@jacquelineking5783
@jacquelineking5783 9 ай бұрын
Because that is the protagonist of the book or at least the major POV character. Feel free to write a book on Yasuke, do so well it becomes a best seller, and let a production company make it into a TV or movie.
@FrankLucas-pw5hs
@FrankLucas-pw5hs 9 ай бұрын
*Y'allz Racist!* *FACTS* are that there were *two huge Feifdoms* that were composed of *majority Black African Samurai.* For example, read the following (taken from an *expert historian* on the Tokugawa Shogunate era): "In the annals of Japanese history, there exists a remarkable yet little-known chapter about *two African samurais* who wielded influence during the tumultuous era of the Tokugawa shogunate. These two remarkable figures, whose origins lay in the lands of Africa, found themselves in Japan's feudal landscape, their destinies intertwined with the fate of the nation. One of these Africans was akin to Yasuke, the famed African retainer of Oda Nobunaga. Known for his towering stature and exceptional combat prowess, he rose through the ranks of the samurai caste, earning the respect of his peers and the trust of the powerful daimyo Toranaga/Tokugawa. With his keen strategic mind and unwavering loyalty, he established his own fiefdom, a bastion of strength in the heart of Japan. His companion, mirroring William Adams, was a man of unyielding determination and indomitable spirit. Embodying the spirit of endurance and resilience, he navigated the intricate web of Japanese politics with finesse, earning accolades as a master diplomat and tactician. Like Adams, he too carved out his own domain, a beacon of hope for those who sought refuge in the tumultuous times of war. *When all the Native Japanese were bloodthirsty and plotting how to burn down their opponents crops - it was these two African Samurai that were planting trees!!* Together, these two African samurais stood as pillars of strength, their fiefdoms serving as bastions of stability amidst the chaos of civil strife. Their allegiance to Tokugowa/Toranaga was unwavering, their skills in warfare and governance invaluable assets in the struggle for power. Through their courage and ingenuity, *they helped shape the course of Japanese history, leaving an indelible mark on the annals of time."* Powerful stuff, huh?? --------------------------------- *APRIL FOOLS, BABY!!!!* 😂🤣😂🤡🤡
@Hyoujin-Rei
@Hyoujin-Rei 9 ай бұрын
25:33 My Aikido teacher, who was also a history teacher, told me that he was trained by a japanese aikido master - I forgot the master name, yes I am ashamed of it, was 15 at the time - with whom he also talked about japanese history and traditions. He told me that on one occasion, whiilst talking about the many implications of the act of harakiri, one of them was "to show that your insides were not black". When I asked him, "Why black?" He said "well if it were any colour other than red, I would mean you are not human, but if they were black, that would mean you are evil beyond imagination so far that your guts changed color." I kind of imagined that it was like saying that you are rotten inside. I have no documentation to prove what my teacher told me, but he was a good person, and I do not believe he would lie about something he was passionate about.
@atsukorichards1675
@atsukorichards1675 9 ай бұрын
今でも「腹黒い」という形容詞は使われますよ。
@pepepepito623
@pepepepito623 9 ай бұрын
Steven Segal?
@badfoody
@badfoody 9 ай бұрын
Aikido teaches a lot of flexibility dont be ashamed
@annoymous88
@annoymous88 9 ай бұрын
as the Japanese comment above mentioned, it is still commonly used. 腹黒い translates to "black stomach/innard", basically mean "rotten to the core".
@user-McGiver
@user-McGiver 9 ай бұрын
I never heard of that, but it makes perfect sense...!
@Halo44327
@Halo44327 8 ай бұрын
Slightly a bit off topic but I’d love to see a movie about the oppression of Christianity in Japan. It did happen. Justo Takayama is one of my personal favorite samurai known for serving Oda. After, he served under Hideyoshi . Takayama also destroyed several Buddhist temples. Hideyoshi was very hostile towards Christian’s so Takayama gave up his land as he did not want to give up his faith. He was protected by Toshiie one of the main leading generals who served Oda. After Hideyoshi passed away, and Ieyasu unified Japan, Ieyasu banned Christianity. Due to that Takayama and about 200 Christian’s were exiled from Japan. He ended up in the phillippines where he was welcomed by the Spanish and Filipino locals and passed away there. He was loved so much that the Spanish Filipino proposed the idea of invading Japan.
@coreyrutherford7231
@coreyrutherford7231 8 ай бұрын
Look up a movie called silence. It has Liam Neison, Adam driver, and Andrew Garfield
@andreharris7211
@andreharris7211 Ай бұрын
Martin scorsese already did that. It is grim
@taikanyuko5005
@taikanyuko5005 9 ай бұрын
In Wakanda. The imaginary black nation that my Nigerian prince keeps sending me emails about.
@RCSVirginia
@RCSVirginia 9 ай бұрын
To @taikanyuko5005 I do hope that you gave him access to your bank account in order that he could reclaim his throne and make you his prime minister.
@shegocrazy
@shegocrazy 9 ай бұрын
@@RCSVirginia Settle down! He's already promised ME the PM gig. My certificate of authenticity should be arriving any day now.
@kellysouter4381
@kellysouter4381 9 ай бұрын
Say hello for me😂
@morghe321
@morghe321 9 ай бұрын
Ok, this made me lol 😆😆
@asaris_
@asaris_ 9 ай бұрын
Ah, he still needs funding for his superhero suit and equipment?
@veritorossi
@veritorossi 9 ай бұрын
I watched the series yesterday and I loved it!!!! OMG it's sooo good!!! But I was offended as an Argentinean person that I didn't see Messi in the series. LOL
@adrianpillai6645
@adrianpillai6645 9 ай бұрын
Yes, we definitely missed out on Messi taking on the Portuguese and his one arch-nemesis. ;)
@SlimJim3082
@SlimJim3082 9 ай бұрын
Messi would have nutmegged Toranaga sama. Ankara Messi ankara Messi ankara Messi
@stumccabe
@stumccabe 9 ай бұрын
Even if the alleged proverb were genuine, the term "black blood" could easily be idiomatic, just as in England (and maybe elsewhere) we talk of people having "blue blood" meaning they are of noble birth. In English there are many phrases that use the word "black" none of which are anything to do with race, eg. black sheep, blacklist, be in the black, black market, black comedy, etc
@eelchiong6709
@eelchiong6709 9 ай бұрын
Edward the BLACK Prince was BLACK!
@stumccabe
@stumccabe 9 ай бұрын
@@eelchiong6709 Are you being serious?!
@dannybosun5158
@dannybosun5158 8 ай бұрын
Actually I am old enough to remember that the term “black” to describe an ethnic group is relatively recent. Before it was “colored”. I doubt that the term “black” would have been used in Japan hundreds of years ago.
@shinichiiwashita6903
@shinichiiwashita6903 8 ай бұрын
we don’t have such proverb ever. Also Sakanoue-no-Tamuramaro was NOT Ainu. Major Ainu people immigrated from Siberia since 13 centuries.
@坂本琢磨-x4t
@坂本琢磨-x4t 8 ай бұрын
Already someone pointed it out, "brave samurai must have a bit of black blood" was the mistranslation by French doctor 1870s It supposed to be its original is in Hagakure/葉隠 which is the famous samurai book. I heard that 葉隠 says "brave samurai must have a bit of 冷血" 冷血 means cold blood in literal, and means cruelty. However, I couldn't find the phrase in 葉隠, because I only have a manga version of 葉隠 for kids. So, please note that I may be wrong.
@dannybosun5158
@dannybosun5158 8 ай бұрын
Exactly…….black is a color and is used with many interpretations that have absolutely nothing to do with modern race description / nomenclature.
@michaelhart7569
@michaelhart7569 8 ай бұрын
And certainly in the English language black does not always refer explicitly to colour. It is also used as a metaphor for darkness or evil. Hence Darth Vader turned to the dark side of the force.
@slewone4905
@slewone4905 8 ай бұрын
black does not always mean black in color .there is an arguement what black elf means to the Scandanavians. some say that it means they live in the dark, rather than their skin is dark. Or that they are evil. someone with a black heart, doesn't mean his heart is black, but as you said cold, or cruel. Also we got Ivan the black. He wasn't black.
@jarlnils435
@jarlnils435 8 ай бұрын
@@slewone4905 we have the same being in german mythology. Dunkelalb oder Schwarzalb (darkness elf or black elf) They live in dark caves, deep in the earth. Unlike the Lichtalben (Light elves) who live in the sunlight. In general, scholars believe that Dark Elves were originally just another word for dwarves, as they were smiths like the dwarves and had always charcoal blacken their skin. In time, these dark elves were confused with the Mar, Mara or Mare, a demonic black shadow. Nightmare still has the name of this demon. In arch christian southern germany it was confused with the dunkelalb and the nightmare became Albtraum (elven dream).
@brixcosmo
@brixcosmo 8 ай бұрын
Makes much more sense. Dark meaning cruel.
@kitsiewr
@kitsiewr 9 ай бұрын
The silliest "proof" for their re-written history is when they latch onto the adjective 'black" ( black Irish, etc..) Since they only decided everyone should refer to them as "black" in the 70's/80's, this is not a word that would indicate "sub-saharan African" when used in historical descriptions. Most people in these societies would never have come in contact with a "black" person, for the same reason that tribal Africans would not have been aware of Japanese Samurai or European royalty.
@fotoScentfx-zr6kl
@fotoScentfx-zr6kl 9 ай бұрын
There really were black Irish. ☘️ I’m just staying a fact. I hate woke propaganda and white washing. And yes, white washing was and still is an active thing.
@casualweekday-ytshadowbang2469
@casualweekday-ytshadowbang2469 8 ай бұрын
But the Black Ships were manufactured in XVI century Wakanda, obviously.
@richardhall5489
@richardhall5489 8 ай бұрын
"they"?
@casualweekday-ytshadowbang2469
@casualweekday-ytshadowbang2469 8 ай бұрын
YT censorship on this one.
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 8 ай бұрын
In the Irish (Gaelic) language, you will encounter the term _fear dubh_ (pronounced, roughly , "fair doov") in historical usage. It means, literally translated, "black man." When I went to Ireland and the Gaeltacht in 1988 to learn a little of the Irish language, one of the teachers used to the term to describe _me._ because I had black hair, and historically, the term was used that way -- probably where the term "black Irish" originates. People who look like me -- fair-skinned, with black hair (in my case before it turned grey) -- are actually pretty common in Ireland. When the Irish actually met black people from sub-Saharan Africa for the first time, the term they used to describe them was _fear gorm,_ which literally translates to "blue man."
@leoghigu
@leoghigu 9 ай бұрын
There are "black people" in the book, mentioned offhand- in a conversation between Rodriguez and Mariko, Rodriguez says that he has a few "lazy" black slaves in the ship when Marko asks Rodriguez for "servants" to clean Blackthorne, who had been ill. So, in the book, there are black people -we just never meet them and aren't really important in any way to the plot.
@MPbmfm
@MPbmfm 9 ай бұрын
Imagine the uproar if those slaves were seen in a single scene or even mentioned in that way
@leoghigu
@leoghigu 9 ай бұрын
@@MPbmfm Yup, and half of the outrage would be from people upset there are black people in "Shogun" in the first place and the other half from people blowing a gasket that all the black people in the series are slaves.
@Cancoillotteman
@Cancoillotteman 9 ай бұрын
@@leoghigu and if they are referred as "lazy" as in the book, oh man ! What a perfect way to piss off everyone, I'd love it !
@nomdeguerre8464
@nomdeguerre8464 9 ай бұрын
@@MPbmfm you (and the above poster) have changed my mind. Now I really wish there HAD been such a scene, aka blPPL in Shogun!
@MPbmfm
@MPbmfm 9 ай бұрын
@@leoghigu Let's callout Disney out for censoring out black people from Shogun!
@vasiliskoutsokostas
@vasiliskoutsokostas 7 ай бұрын
Here after the new Assassins Creed trailer
@noflyzone2307
@noflyzone2307 7 ай бұрын
Oh is that what started it? I just saw it on ps store
@shaneblack4862
@shaneblack4862 8 ай бұрын
The best way to respond to any question, by doing as much research as possible to provide yourself with as many known facts as possible, in order to respond as thoroughly and as accurately as you possibly can do. And doing so in a calm and civilised manner. And I also respect how you mention the other issues raised despite dubious or potentially biased origins, and countering them on the basis of their unsubstantiated nature. No mockery or abuse, just reasoned debate with producable reference points and acknowledgement when specific facts are not as forthcoming as desired. Your channel is an excellent example of how we can raise and debate even the most controversial ideas in an intelligent and reasoned manner. Bravo! 👏👏
@dawest767
@dawest767 8 ай бұрын
"Samurai were Africans" does not require "as much research as possible to provide yourself with as many known facts as possible, in order to respond as thoroughly and as accurately as you possibly can do". Reality and facts are reality and facts, you don't need to create a rational and logical argument against the moon being made of cheese.
@dorjedriftwood2731
@dorjedriftwood2731 8 ай бұрын
I actually disagree with you. Only because these people ask so many stupid questions in bad faith that you would exhaust yourself if you authentically engaged with them. Instead it is better to recognize crazy and stay away from people it unless you can profit off of the discussion.
@vlad5042
@vlad5042 8 ай бұрын
@@dawest767the claim wasn't "samurai are african" tho (besides one). it was that there would have been black people hanging around japan at the place and time shogun is set. its still wrong and many parts are silly and its obviously biased, but its not really a moon made of cheese situation. the rational thing to do in the situation isnt just to write off the entire point as completely ridiculous without doing any research. that might lead people to think there were absolutely NO black people in japan at all by 1600, which as the youtuber demonstrates is not actually true, they just would have been a very insignificant population and probably would not be in the places where shogun is set. it also helps to break down how to debunk articles like this, you dont just read it and say "well that was stupid so clearly its wrong", you look and see that they didn't cite properly and are using manipulative language and you go find a more trustworthy source for the information. obviously you dont HAVE to do this with every bogus historical claim you see but if you're a person who prides yourself on knowing a lot about history it kind of feels like you should. like you can say "reality and facts are reality and facts" but the skeptical and rational thing to do is not just to accept your own common sense idea of what reality and facts are, its to look at the evidence to make sure you actually have the historical evidence behind you on what the facts actually are.
@dawest767
@dawest767 8 ай бұрын
@@vlad5042 My BA in Japanese history is enough for me. I don't think the "representation" they want are one or two slaves carrying boxes in the distant background. Slaves are unlikely to have been in Osaka at all except maybe at a port, carrying things onto a Portuguese ship. The people who push this nonsense hide behind trying to claim it's "historical", but they want a Black Samurai, or some heroic representation. Not coolies carrying boxes. For them it is NOT about the history, and they don't care about the history. Sure, Nobunaga was given a slave as an oddity and conversation piece, but Yasuke was no Samurai.
@shadowsrwolf
@shadowsrwolf 9 ай бұрын
They say they don't want representation but we all know that's BS
@motorola9956
@motorola9956 8 ай бұрын
African Americans are overrepresented in many modern media especially in the US. They only know themselves as "black" and "African". So they think the continent of Africa are only full and exclusively filled with people who looked like them. Even though most of the original Southern US black people are of coastal West African descent. That's what you get when an entire handful of people are misplaced and discriminated for ages. White people did not steal your culture or your language, it has no worth for them. You are as American as any other races in America.
@Cancoillotteman
@Cancoillotteman 9 ай бұрын
I know it's a clickbait debunk video, but i appreciate and respect the intellectual honesty and precise scientific approach. Thanks !
@cobusvanderlinde6871
@cobusvanderlinde6871 7 ай бұрын
It turns out the black people in Shogun are in Assassin's Creed: Shadows
@Unpainted_Huffhines
@Unpainted_Huffhines 9 ай бұрын
The Florida thing is about new State Curriculum guidelines (written by black people) that explained that newly freed blacks used the skills they learned while slaves to create businesses after they were freed. The media took this and spun it as "Ron DeSantis thinks slavery was good!!!"
@weskerwillie9044
@weskerwillie9044 9 ай бұрын
Because that was precisely what Ron desantes wanted to prove!
@Unpainted_Huffhines
@Unpainted_Huffhines 9 ай бұрын
​@@weskerwillie9044Which part?
@biran
@biran 9 ай бұрын
There was also an AP course, covering the same material, which VP harris approved. Hypocritical nonsense
@kingkoi6542
@kingkoi6542 9 ай бұрын
Ron DeSantis also went to Israel to pass a law on hate speech in the US... 🤨
@eclipsewrecker
@eclipsewrecker 9 ай бұрын
@@weskerwillie9044you’re ridiculous. Ask Rampage Jackson or Killa Mike if they agree.
@kavzz918
@kavzz918 9 ай бұрын
6:55. He 100% is asking/demanding for representation even when it doesn't make sense. These people are snakes. Always double-speak. It's got to a point for me (years ago) that if they state something like "I don't ask out of... they 100% are. Their actions speak louder than words.
@hoze1235
@hoze1235 9 ай бұрын
Shogun - where are black people Resident evil 5 - why are the zombies black ??
@SusiBlumentopf
@SusiBlumentopf 9 ай бұрын
Black racism.
@alexyoon-sungcucina7895
@alexyoon-sungcucina7895 9 ай бұрын
Shoehorning Yasuke makes as much sense as shoehorning Blackthorne. Neither character should be anything more than a minor side character.
@kavzz918
@kavzz918 9 ай бұрын
@@alexyoon-sungcucina7895 But Blackthorne is a representation of the European influence that was effecting Japan through commerce and warfare. Both in the book and tv show.
@alexyoon-sungcucina7895
@alexyoon-sungcucina7895 9 ай бұрын
@@kavzz918 Oh, so now we need "representation"? Blackthorne should be represented as a minor character or maybe a recurring side character at most. In Game of Thrones terms, he'd be Alliser Thorne or Jonas Slynt or maybe Lady Tyrell at most. Just some fringe person who is part of larger things. "Representation" is making him into a co-star.
@robertocatrone715
@robertocatrone715 8 ай бұрын
I love your honesty and unbiased fact based videos. Thank you for all your hard work to help educate us. Bravo
@friendsofthegerund7693
@friendsofthegerund7693 8 ай бұрын
Where do you divide the syllables in "dissect"? di - ssect? or dis - sect?
@Sighhhh
@Sighhhh 9 ай бұрын
Ah yes, feudal Japan. Well known for its diversity.
@deanamodeo4072
@deanamodeo4072 9 ай бұрын
If people had their own accomplishments they wouldn't have to rob from the culture of others
@nodiggity9472
@nodiggity9472 9 ай бұрын
I'm British, and I resent that statement. We had our own cultural accomplishments AND robbed other cultures.
@deanamodeo4072
@deanamodeo4072 9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah? Are you saying that Gandhi is English? Or Genghis Khan?
@deanamodeo4072
@deanamodeo4072 9 ай бұрын
You're not talking about cultural appropriation are you? That nonsense? What do you mean robbing through like warfare? Which is just part of history That's what people do? They couldn't accomplish that either.
@nodiggity9472
@nodiggity9472 9 ай бұрын
@@deanamodeo4072 You mean "Genglish Kahn"
@nodiggity9472
@nodiggity9472 9 ай бұрын
@@deanamodeo4072 Don't you try and oppress me.
@SgtRocko
@SgtRocko 9 ай бұрын
Yasuke was there for at MOST 4 years in the 1580s. He was such a wonder to the Japanese for being black that they STILL REMEMBER HIM. If there had been many more, they would've been mentioned, and Yasuke wouldn't have been the figure of wonder that he became.
@v-doc5230
@v-doc5230 9 ай бұрын
Well, the wonder was that he was a samurai and thus more apparent than others. Also actually it is unknown what became of him, so no one really knows how long he was in Japan, especially after Nobunagas death. There are depictions of black peolpe dating after Nobunagas death any way. IT is unclear of that is Yasuke or someone else. Nonetheless, they were very rare.
@betat.4974
@betat.4974 8 ай бұрын
​@@v-doc5230He was enslaved again after nobunagas death and sold back to portugese.😂
@rikubrown8109
@rikubrown8109 8 ай бұрын
@@v-doc5230 he wasn't a samurai he was a retainer
@taugoran8021
@taugoran8021 8 ай бұрын
@@rikubrown8109 In feudal Japan, retainers providing military service are samurai. Most Historians agree that Yasuke was a Samurai way before woke-ism became a thing.
@rikubrown8109
@rikubrown8109 8 ай бұрын
@@taugoran8021 lol nope again you're way wrong. Fuk what western historians say. It matters what Japanese historians say. And they say he wasn't a samurai
@ZDVictim
@ZDVictim 7 ай бұрын
i really appreciate the careful walkthroughs. i wish more people understood why specificity is imperative, and that it was uneccesary for you to do so, but here we are...
@DeusRegum
@DeusRegum 9 ай бұрын
"...Damn dog, we're all afraid to speak the truth And the more afraid we get, the more we hate the ones who do..." - Tom MacDonald
@theNeathBoy
@theNeathBoy 8 ай бұрын
Just landed on your channel, never seen a vid of your before. Based off this video of your well reason and stated argument I’m subbing to see what else you produce. Good stuff!
@jayhopper4228
@jayhopper4228 8 ай бұрын
Agreed... New sub here as well! :)
@michaeltriola3978
@michaeltriola3978 9 ай бұрын
I saw a “review” complaining about John’s “white savior complex” because of his relationship with Mariko. The first picture I see of the man John is based on is him and his Japanese wife and child.
@def3ndr887
@def3ndr887 9 ай бұрын
I mean you could compare it to Odysseus where he did some “stuff” before he made it back home
@vladprus4019
@vladprus4019 9 ай бұрын
​@@def3ndr887Odysseuss was coerced to some stuff with Circe and Calypso, though. That said, werent his cre doing some rape and pillage few times or I remember it wrong?
@def3ndr887
@def3ndr887 9 ай бұрын
@@vladprus4019 no idea it’s been a long time since I’ve read the Odyssey
@SkeeterHowitzer
@SkeeterHowitzer 8 ай бұрын
You are quite the scholar and not boring.
@Alexuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
@Alexuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu 9 ай бұрын
Love when you make videos like this. Waiting for analysis on episode 2!
@kevinsparrow4543
@kevinsparrow4543 9 ай бұрын
This might be one of the best researched videos I’ve ever seen on KZbin. Thank you for sharing
@darrendin2050
@darrendin2050 9 ай бұрын
It's so nice to hear someone talk about the Emishii! I've never met anyone else who knew or cared about the other minorities of Japan, but the Emishii most of all are just unknown and it's sad.
Apparently I am WOKE Now!? And Yasuke is LGBTQ?
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