Metro 6R4 porsche boxster chassis bodyswap project

[@gavinspeers4187]

You fitted air ride to a car for me a few years back, having seen some your work and followed ur builds on Facebook, this is exactly what you should be doing, subscribed, looking forward to seeing this grow.

[@pedenconceptz]

Thanks, I’m going to give it a go anyway. I don’t really expect the channel to be that successful but it will make doing the projects more interesting…. it seems to anyway.

[@gavinspeers4187]

@@pedenconceptz its there forever to, great way to always have it to look back on, anyway, il be watching, good luck.

[@colinblick8946]

So you trust ya body work but don’t trust ya winch😂😂….ill be watchin this with interest👌🏽

[@calmingskys]

totally agree, ive loved Peden Concepts stuff for years, it would be great to see some more in depth videos of his stuff

[@tompirozek4490]

Too much talking about what your gonna have to do and no video of you actually doing it

[@twin2civicgaraget2cg75]

The 6R4 is my favourite car.... this is a very brave project, good luck with it!

[@750coda]

Fair play to you bud..We need folk like you in the car world 👍👍

[@pedenconceptz]

Well il certainly try my best! Thanks

[@chrismcclintock6417]

Love this and the detail. It’s a refreshing change to see this. Can’t wait to see and hear the finished car

[@pedenconceptz]

Thanks very much

[@PracticalRecycling101]

It fits. Kinda. It must feel weird cutting up a Porsche. Gonna keep watching. It looks like you will build a masterpiece

[@pedenconceptz]

The first cut a few videos back was difficult, but it’s long since passed the point where it could be returned to original.

[@adamweston4152]

People like you amaze me with your vision and skillset, I could never do this, I've subscribed to your channel and am really looking forward to seeing the end product!.

[@pedenconceptz]

Well I don’t know about skill set, sort of a jack of all trades and a master of none, thanks

[@adamweston4152]

@@pedenconceptz well your still far more talented than me and I admire that.

[@sjv6598]

Funnily enough I was looking at a 6R4 at the NC500 cafe near Pickering. Subbed 🙂

[@kevinlawes591]

Subbed looking forward to seeing how this turns out! A brave project to take on but worth the effort 👍

[@johnboyle7984]

Well that escalated quickly! I wish i had a tiny bit of your skills. This channel is going to blow up .....

[@pedenconceptz]

I think as youl probably find out from watching that there will be many men out there with metalwork skills better than mine, but il get the job done…. Hopefully

[@michaelflatters3293]

I am already hooked, I like your thinking and you deserve to build up a good following with this build.

[@pedenconceptz]

Thanks very much, I need to try start improving my editing but getting there but by bit.

[@joffbrown]

I’m new here great project I so love a 6R4 so looking forward to following you do this 👍🏻

[@SuperRon]

Looking good, timelapses are a nice addition, definitely continue with those, they show alot of info! 👍

[@pedenconceptz]

Thanks, I only just worked out how to add music so il use more of them

[@ZafiraSteve]

If super Ron is watching and given praise, you're doing Something right

[@jamesleeharris]

Wow , if you youd have told me before I started watching this video that a metro-boxster body swap would be as close as it is. I would never had believed it. The rear 2/3 line up better than I was expecting to see. The driver compartment (dash area etc) are pretty close to where the metro firewall would be. And the rear wheels are pretty close to. I've instantly subbed this build is fascinating. Cant wait to see how it turns out. Best of luck with the build I look forward to watching it.

[@pedenconceptz]

Thanks, I don’t know that I’d say it lined up that well down either side but I think it is workable, which is hopefully good enough, I’m in this far il have to make it work

[@jamesleeharris]

@@pedenconceptz I appreciate it's not finalized and there are several thousand hurdles to make it all work but I was just impressed at how well the engine position matched to the rear and the drivers area didnt look to far out. If you was to park a metro and boxster next each other pre disassembly to my eye the dimensions look comically off but once both are down to the barest of components it's not terrible. I'm intrigued to see how tackle the wiring because theres alot of Porsche that isn't there anymore lol.

[@pedenconceptz]

It’s actually all still working. Running driving. I have a light on the dash for the spoiler, and air bags, but a bulb removed and some resistors off eBay and that should be fixed. If I can il keep the dash and steering airbags, if I can figure out if the method of triggering is unaffected. Il trim very little of it down.

[@AntonHoward-mx9sb]

Excellent project, it should be a hoot to drive.

[@_autoverse]

Like countless folks this randomly popped up in my suggested feed. I’m intrigued to see how this progresses, so it would have rude not to subscribe.

[@pedenconceptz]

Thanks very much, yea KZbin seems to have done me a good turn today for whatever reason!

[@dan44zzt231]

Loving this project! The handling of a Boxster and the look of a 6R4. Should be incredible

[@pedenconceptz]

I had never driven a boxster until I got this and it really surprised me, it’s very composed, I think with some minor suspension modifications, the average man could get it from point to point, down a b road faster than the real thing (clubman spec car), just because it’s a more user friendly

[@jackgib]

Love this, can’t wait to see this build

[@danielcgomez]

This is an Awesome project! I'm looking forward to the follow up videos! Good luck, I know you can do this!

[@pedenconceptz]

Thanks, I’m going to give it a good go anyway!

[@leuvenlife]

I parked a mk2 transit next to a 6R4 at a Lex dealer back in the 80's and straight up, the transit looked tiny. The 6R4 was a big beast for that time

[@pedenconceptz]

Yea, that’s starting to dawn on me, the problem I have is it looks so damn high at the minute

[@ChopsGarage]

Ace project! Looking forward to more

[@pedenconceptz]

Much appreciated, thanks for watching it!

[@roninfr4666]

Is the milk bottle holders strengthing 🤣🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿😁👍🏴‍☠️

[@tomthompson7400]

thats no small undertaking ,,, well done on getting so far

[@theduperguy1185]

Good to see the folks chipping in. Top work man...

[@pedenconceptz]

Yes, the director of operations popped in for a look! Lol

[@phensriwood8081]

Love the BMW V8 Mayflower too.

[@pedenconceptz]

I can’t say that I’ve ever heard of one?

[@webuild3994]

Great work, looking forward to seeing the kit lined up.

[@pedenconceptz]

Yes, I think that will turn the build around, it needs a bit of imagination at this stage

[@johngibson3837]

Hey up mate found your video very interesting and well done so went to home page and watched the first two, good stuff

[@pedenconceptz]

Awesome, thanks for taking the time to watch them

[@teadoggcreations2336]

good luck, youll get it figured out in no time!

[@soggybawsmoto]

Been looking forward to this! On the edge of my seat 👍

[@pedenconceptz]

Lol, it’s not that exciting, but il keep trying!

[@jimmacdonald9746]

Exciting project , looking forward to seeing all the progress

[@theoriginalwallace]

This project has got me! Subbed 😊 Cheers. Leigh.

[@JIMWSMITH]

Interesting channel. Look forward to following this.. Great donor car .

[@boboinc2956]

real life project, subbed

[@scoobiom]

This is a cracking project mate, lovin' it!

[@lovrospacal245]

just subscribed and will be following the build. good luck!

[@theplantpotman]

💯👍 great entertainment, i wish you all the best with this, matt green tried it with a subaru haha. Ive just finished putting a v8 4.0ltr rs6 motor into a golf 18 plate gtd and the drivers seat is almost where the bench seat was 😂 i space framed mine, i suggest you do same best of luck 👍

[@pedenconceptz]

It looks like he’s going to have another go at it with the v6 out of the mini… well I assume that’s where he’s talking about going with it. Yea, a space frame would have been another option. But then your starting from scratch, you have to work out every part of it, figure out a place for everything. It would have been easier early on, but I think keeping this as a running driving car will help motivation later on. Plus I’m very impressed with the boxster chassis, clearly galvanised etc.

[@humphrey4976]

This is badass

[@K1NGB1LLY]

Mate ironic you are building this you are building this you look like our man Colin McRae 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿. Is it only me ?

[@_marcus_does_]

Love it, subbed 😊

[@superblackbirdrider]

Just subbed. Please don't take this as a criticism, but i would have used the porsche as a donor and made my own chassis. Seems a lot less work in the long run with more structural integrity than chopping so much out of the Porsche chassis. Will be interesting to see how this progresses .

[@pedenconceptz]

The only area affected is the Pilar, and that supports the window frame on the boxster, this is going to be replaced by a new Pilar and I intend to have an internal roll cage, or a roll cage at the very least. In my opinion this chassis is far superior something I could design myself, and all the strength is in the bottom 12” of it. If I built a separate chassis, it have to strip the car entirely, months or years of parts lying in the corner and a lump of box section that looks like a metro in the other, decisions over trying to fit every part. Everyone has a different opinion but what I want is a nicely finished road car, I want the fit and finish of a porsche and the looks of a metro, not a race car that has a porsche engine. And no offence taken whatsoever, I value your opinion.

[@Retrobeemer]

Marine single wiper motors are small and relatively cheap. They're totally self contained and shallow enough to fit in tight spots.

[@pedenconceptz]

Il have a look at those thanks

[@deadsheep1559]

Hahah mental.. there's some garages on my estate with the same complete body kit. Been there years it has

[@alancutchey9892]

Brave lad haha.. if was me I’d of probably used a different donor car.. something like, evo, Impreza or TT. Looking forward to seeing it finished

[@pedenconceptz]

I’m actually nearly sure all of those have been done before, there’s videos on KZbin of them. A guy Matt green has done a Subaru anyway and I think I’ve seen the others. But I just wanted the 6 cylinder engine note and the engine in the back, plus the boxster is a great road car

[@SB-vb8ch]

Presumably the 6R4 had the rear wheels moved back to win a bit of extra wheelbase...fairly normal trick. The dinky Metro body does make the skateboard look big! Fair play, keep on chopping!

[@theoriginalwallace]

And the front ones moved forwards. Austin Metro wheelbase: 88.6" vs 6R4: 94.1".

[@pedenconceptz]

I don’t know if they are as short as 94.1, I’ve seen approx 94.5 and 95, and this boxster is 95, so hoping the kit puts it in the ballpark. But that’s part of the problem, you ask about the wheelbase or a dimension and you get different answers from each person building one.

[@BungleBare]

Part of the issue might be the differing wheelbases of various versions of the Metro. You’re working with a K-series engined Rover Metro, whereas the starting point for genuine 6R4s was the earlier type of A-series engined Metro. Everything forward of the windscreen on the K-series models was re-engineered as the Metro went from gearbox in sump layout to an end-on gearbox. Austin Rover took the opportunity to lengthen the Metro slightly at the front at that point for packaging/styling reasons. Thus shoving the front wheels slightly forward and lengthening the wheelbase a touch. It’s something to bear in mind in terms of your ‘90s Metro shell compared to those used for 6R4s in the mid ‘80s. All that said, the Metro shell is to all intents and purposes the same from the A-pillar back, no matter which model you started with. Great project. Can’t wait for the next video.

[@finlay230]

love it !!!! subbed

[@roninfr4666]

Good job

[@alistairuysal1858]

Metro sell looks a bit narrower and shorter. Gonna take some graft that. Good luck. Looking forward to see how you get it to fit

[@pedenconceptz]

It’s approximately the same wheelbase of it’s ment to be.

[@joeedwards627]

Bet your completely over cutting, enjoying this

[@pedenconceptz]

I really am, I’m going to start putting something together in the next video i make

[@dawnhunter6965]

Your a brave man 🙂

[@CrusadesOClock]

I would've cut out the stamping for the back hatch and windshield then split the shell down the middle. Then its much easier to deal with, replace the roof panel and fill in the small gaps either side of the back hatch and windshield stampings

[@pedenconceptz]

The metro 6r4 with the bodykit fitted is 4 inches wider than a boxster. If I widen the shell. The whole thing would be even wider again. If you want to avoid modifying the door shuts you’d need to widen it by 6”…. The end result would be a car that was 10”, yes 10” wider than a boxster!!! You’d also have 4” or 5” wide window pillars. I can see why you think this would work but when your standing beside it, it’s a different story.

[@nubie1100]

I'd love to be able to do stuff like this 👍

[@pedenconceptz]

You might need to get the grinder out and try it!

[@nubie1100]

@@pedenconceptz I always try to fix my car unless it's a massive job, I'm willing but unable, got a messed up back 🤷‍♂️

[@chrisbaker121924]

That’s bonkers… and totally stupid… I love it 😅😅😅

[@theafro]

It looks like it'll work, but it's going to get fiddly!

[@skinnytinny9023]

Most 6R4 replica attempts look wrong because the wheelbase differs by 16cm between 6R4s and normal metros. You might have mentioned this but I missed it if you did.

[@pedenconceptz]

I didn’t explain that, but yes I am aware it’s different. Boxster is 95.1 inch, 6r4 is either 94.5 or 94.9 depending where you look for info

[@davesmith6734]

Great project, I would have used an Audi A3 quattro chassis 1.8turbo and 4 wheel drive

[@pedenconceptz]

I think that’s already been done, well, they used an Audi tt i think which is much the same, but I really wanted the engine in the back and 6 cylinders, like the real thing

[@ThomasDoubting5]

Theres a lot going on there fella .

[@jamesdeath3477]

I think I'd not be too worried about cutting strength out of the Porsche. You are putting a roof on the car after all, which has to be a help with rigidity as well as a cage. Though I'm not a fan a cages in road cars. It strikes me as a dangerous, especially in a small car, where it's likely to hit you in the head.

[@pedenconceptz]

I’ve already had this debate with myself over my last escort build. And came to the conclusion that with the car folded round me it wouldn’t matter what hit my head. But one thing is I have found very nice padding for it, secondly in a metro 6r4 (genuine) the cage goes inside the pillars. And I’ve seen one rolled without a cage and it was not good. Plenty of strength in this chassis but I’d like to put more in the roof, the pillars are very very very tiny

[@jamesdeath3477]

@@pedenconceptz fair enough. I'm pretty sure you've put way more thought into this than I have, after just watching the videos. Interesting project in any case and a great idea.

[@ratspeedgarage]

Cut it down the middle and have the metro 6" wider.

[@pedenconceptz]

If my calculations are correct the metro 6r4 is already 4 inches wider than the boxster once the body kit is added. If I widened it 6 inches, it would then be 10 inches wider.

[@54RKY]

If you widen it your gonna have to chop the roof 😂😂😂 full hotrod 6r4

[@watahyahknow]

looking at the dooropening i wonder if you can graft the porche bottom part of the doorsill intoo the metro top , would mean cutting up the porche doors too and fit the bottom parts of those intoo the metro doors inner sheetmetal to get them to shut over everything

[@pedenconceptz]

There’s an engineering shop close to me, that can fold sheet steel from new material, just means I can have the sections made in one piece rather than jointing sections. Il do this with the sills doors and pillars, and then fabricate the corners myself

[@VAARRR1]

Hello You need more lights 5-6K And clean your work garage to look nice Be interested to watch more🎉

[@pedenconceptz]

Yes, you are right, Il need to improve the lighting. The worst part of the garage is that door but it’s due to be replaced.

[@jamesleeharris]

What project!!! Can I suggest the name "boxR4"

[@Y888MTB]

Did you consider using more of the metro floor pan, and cutting Boxter in half putting front and rear sections in separately?

[@pedenconceptz]

I think there’s various ways you could skin this cat. You could do that yes, and maybe a box section frame, etc. but I like the structure and strength of the boxster chassis, it was designed to have no roof after all, plus I want to turn out a factory finish type of car (if possible) and the benefit is this will hopefully always be a running and driving car… which helps motivation

[@daracus1202]

If you are going to lower it, do it now so that you know what you're dealing with. It's going to be fantastic.

[@pedenconceptz]

Well, il probably cut the springs at some stage to eye it up. I have a feeling that the final spring rate will need to be different to account for the lower weight, so only so much I can do at this point.

[@clayrobertson7674]

I've been wanting to do this with a ghia

[@philfromsalisbury4538]

Do you just keep the Porsche registration , no IVA to go through ? A lot of mod to original car there

[@pedenconceptz]

I covered this in the first video, but yes I intend to build it to iva specification so it’s ready if needed.

[@antoniosvorrias9100]

Wow, glad I came across this channel . I’ve loved the 6r4 since it’s first release, so really interested to see how complex this will be with the Boxster donor. Where did you manage to source your 6r4 body kit from? Good luck with the build. 👍

[@pedenconceptz]

There’s various places make it, probably at least 5 places, but this one is coming from xsportracing

[@antoniosvorrias9100]

Cool, thanks for the reply

[@BarryRudge]

Did you not think about sectioning the metro body shell down the centre and adding a few inches to the width. The roof might have been a challenge other than using new sheet steel but life might well have been easier

[@pedenconceptz]

The bodykit makes the metro 4 inches wider than the boxster, so it would throw it all off by widening the shell, glass wouldn’t fit etc.

[@philtucker1224]

I can see why you chose the Boxster layout as it puts the rear engine in just about the right place between the wheels. Is it a 2.7 2.9 or 3.2 ?

[@pedenconceptz]

It’s a 2.7, but the reasoning for this is covered in the first video, the gearbox is shorter.

[@bernardwarr4187]

The question that been on my mind for some time is, is it possible to have a transaxle, ie mid engine Métro, and it looks to tight to me? Unless anyone can say otherwise? Obviously 4 cylinder boxer engine but was thinking more straight 4 or v8? Great project mate

[@pedenconceptz]

I don’t know about 4 cylinder but I’m sure it has been done, I’ve seen a genuine 6r4 advertised as having a v8, transaxle, and rwd, someone posted up a list of old adverts on a Facebook group the other day.

[@bernardwarr4187]

@@pedenconceptz I remember seeing and 8r2 at the Bournemouth Rally in the 80’s but not sure of the drive system. It had a Hart derived f1 engine. I would like to build a v8 one, using a transaxle, but not sure if it would fit behind the seats?

[@philtucker1224]

Do you intend to build it as a road going car, or will it be strictly for unregistered track and show work?

[@pedenconceptz]

It’s a road car, I covered this area in the first video if you want to watch that.

[@Brittany.Bonilla]

Trying to fit a square peg into a round hole has never been so entertaining! 🤣

[@carlwilliams6312]

Wasn't the 6r4 slightly longer than the standard metro ?

[@pedenconceptz]

Yea approx same as the boxster

[@billleigh615]

Great progress! We're you inspired to mash these two together or is this a tried and tested route?

[@pedenconceptz]

It covers that in the first episode, but really it was just an organic process of one idea leading to the next

[@SteveInsidious]

Awesome

[@murraygiles3191]

Your the double of one of my mates from belfast but he has ginger hair named mark .anyhoo enjoying your content.

[@pedenconceptz]

Thanks, he sounds like a good looking lad! Lol

[@DavidBaskeyfield-l1b]

Name suggestion: 986R4 🙂

[@pedenconceptz]

I like that one! 👍

[@angeldelacuesta336]

First time 🎉🎉

[@Mr.M1STER]

Was that your parents that walked into the shed to see what you're doing?

[@pedenconceptz]

It was, I figured I’d leave that bit in to give them a laugh.

[@buggerlugz6753]

Didn't the 6R4 have the jaguar XJ220 Engine?

[@pedenconceptz]

Your right I think, but it’s the 220 that has the metro engine, plus turbo I think?

[@KipppopotamusJR]

Do you plan to stretch the metros wheel base or shrink the porsche?

[@pedenconceptz]

Depending on where you look for info the wheelbase is either the same or within about half and inch. Different wheelbases are listed for metro 6r4. But il see when the kit goes on

[@KipppopotamusJR]

@@pedenconceptz ah yes, just watched the first vid, didn't realise the 6r4 wheel base was different than standard, great progress

[@paulwignell9733]

Might have been easier to cut the car in half, thete was a guy who did an xr2i on an audi tt... he did the same thing.

[@pedenconceptz]

Shine automotive. Yes I watched that, but he had awful bother getting a windscreen to fit. This car will already be very wide, wouldn’t really be feasible to widen it further.

[@philtucker1224]

Are 6R4s rear wheel drive? 🤔

[@pedenconceptz]

They are 4wd but I figure that’s a bit overkill for a road car, the 4wd in the original car wouldn’t be great for the daily commute I reckon

[@TheCraigy83]

m8 even the real ones look like you give 6 college lads 10k + metro 1.0 when your close to them in person , they dont look plumb anywhere 😂yours is gonna look good and its a porsche !! donor , they're usually the 1.1 rover metro / metro gta /death trap coffin . 👍🏻

[@pedenconceptz]

Hopefully, I plan to put a lot of work into the fit and finish of it.

[@insomniacbritgaming1632]

it would've been easier to just use the Porsche for donor parts into the Metro shell... this is gonna be sketchy to get made road legal

[@pedenconceptz]

Makes absolutely no difference. As far as the DVLA. are concerned if you modify a chassis in any way the car should be BIVA tested. And that includes fitting Porsche parts to a metro.

[@dspencer8827]

Coooool

[@DavesDiscoveriesChannel]

Subscribed 🔔 👍

[@roninfr4666]

Need a c mech engineer help you I know a know a few gkn sandvik etc and Lansing and bagel in case you need fork lift

[@roninfr4666]

Prob a Skoda or Saab or volvo better less rust

[@groundzero4044]

This is the perfect video to put babies to sleep , extremely boring

[@pedenconceptz]

I had to remove the music to monetise it…. But you won’t please everyone!