Metro 6R4 video review by autocar.co.uk

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We test the memorable Group B rally weapon

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@jamessmith6532
@jamessmith6532 10 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite cars ever.
@idpfilm
@idpfilm 5 жыл бұрын
A PURE Legend - The 6R4 - remember seeing her at the Lombard RAC Rally with McRae Jimmy - Grindrod Ian at the helm - just pure Magic !
@davidkennedy1077
@davidkennedy1077 5 жыл бұрын
Love the 6R4!!! The best sounding, best looking, most brutal and mental Group B racer!!!
@Madrat-tw2in
@Madrat-tw2in 2 жыл бұрын
@ixx no every group B car was brutal and mental
@richardburns5925
@richardburns5925 2 жыл бұрын
@@Madrat-tw2in the Metro thrashed them all, BL rules!
@Madrat-tw2in
@Madrat-tw2in 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardburns5925 I wish but it's first rally was very impressive
@evans808274mc9la
@evans808274mc9la 11 жыл бұрын
My tutor at university (Geoff Goddard) designed the engine when he was chief engineer at Cosworth. He had been at Cosworth since day one and through the DFV era. After he moved to TWR, the project followed him as the original v12 and 4wd planned for the XJ220 would have been to heavy. The Le Mans version had around 880bhp and was a bit of a handful. Just like the XJ220 transit.
@Spargo
@Spargo 14 жыл бұрын
You guys are so awesome for doing videos like this. We've all seen enough boring new car vids to make our head spin, every car that hits the market will be reviewed by dozens of reviewers, but you've got the balls to go drive classic Group B cars, and answer the questions we've all asked. Please please please don't stop doing these they're so great, you can't find first hand experiences of legends like this very often.
@johnmcluskey
@johnmcluskey 11 жыл бұрын
I also liked the 6R4. The car was really just being developed when they pulled the plug on Group B.
@SozzledTerror
@SozzledTerror 14 жыл бұрын
The 80's rocked. Best music, best Rally cars and best hairdo's...... ;-)
@sloopycat1954
@sloopycat1954 2 жыл бұрын
I drove a MG metro turbo, that wasn't close to this in performance but it Was still lovely to drive and rapid, complete weapons, pocket rockets 🚀.
@gurtsmunta
@gurtsmunta 12 жыл бұрын
the sharp bark of a 6r4 echoing in the forest miles before it gets to you is a memory that i shall always treasure .God only knows what beasts would be stalking the forests if group b was allowed to continue?
@porsche911CarreraRSR
@porsche911CarreraRSR 11 жыл бұрын
I just looked it up. The XJ220 had a modified version of the 3.5 twin turbo V6 in that metro. The one in the metro was designed by cosworth, TWR heavily modified it and put the engine to use in the XJ220.
@marineboy6033
@marineboy6033 3 жыл бұрын
I had the scalextric version in 1986 - it was very very twitchy around the track in my cellar....
@themorganator
@themorganator 14 жыл бұрын
just awesome! Keep 'em coming Autocar!
@jujuledruide6385
@jujuledruide6385 6 жыл бұрын
favourite car ever , and favorite v6 ever !
@jaxx831
@jaxx831 13 жыл бұрын
Did you know the engine from this car ended up in the XJ220? Austin Rover withdrew from the rallying scene at the end of the season, but in 1987 all the parts and engines were sold to Tom Walkinshaw Racing, whereupon the V6 engine reappeared under the bonnet of the Jaguar XJ220, this time with turbochargers added
@WiltshireByways
@WiltshireByways 11 жыл бұрын
It wasn't banned at all. It was stopped by the FIA because of crowd safety issues. I know this because I was there.
@ccttv5206
@ccttv5206 6 жыл бұрын
Really love these 6r4s.
@liverush24
@liverush24 11 жыл бұрын
It depends if you want a clubman, Group B or full ex works. If you wanted one of Tony Pond's ex cars, for example, it would cost a lot more.
@thereallybadcarcompany6108
@thereallybadcarcompany6108 3 жыл бұрын
The idea Austin Rover had of making it naturally aspirated to give good throttle response and reliability was essentially wrong and lead to the car not really having quite enough power against the opposition - If they’d of turbocharged it and it was likely to have happened in its course of development had group B gone on it would have been a serious contender for a world rally championship - given the limited funds Austin Rover had to develop it, it’s a remarkable achievement and essentially a really very sorted car that just needed a little more cash and time to make it truly great
@johnmcluskey
@johnmcluskey 11 жыл бұрын
When Group B was banned, the 6R4 factory cars were sold off and a lot of them were used in rally cross. They had to be competitive, 6R4's like Will Gollops car had twin turbo fitted and ran 900bhp. They were insanely fast and quicker than RS200's in rally cross.
@paultaylor5502
@paultaylor5502 6 жыл бұрын
Wills car ran at around 600BHP, i was involved in Group B for a short period and i still chuckle when the ill informed comment on the HP during this era - keeps the intrigue going i suppose
@jujuledruide6385
@jujuledruide6385 6 жыл бұрын
> Paul Taylor : not exactly :) the wills car have Electronic Boost control allows the power to be turned up from 600bhp to over 800bhp at the turn of a dial .
@theant9821
@theant9821 11 жыл бұрын
The delta s4 only had 480 bhp but could still accelerate from 0 - 60 in 2.5 seconds. On gravel, they couldn't accelerate as fast on tarmac as they required higher gearing to prevent the torque from shredding the rear diff.
@MeTube3
@MeTube3 3 жыл бұрын
After the Group B ban, one of these was put on display at my local railway station. I stopped to look at it and missed my train.
@mikefranky
@mikefranky 12 жыл бұрын
Love watching these old 6r4,i remember watching will gollop in his black 6r4 in rallycross days...omfg what a animal of a car!!
@johnmcluskey
@johnmcluskey 11 жыл бұрын
I love the S4 and the 205T16 in evo2 spec was also a seriously formidable weapon. The T16 had slightly more top end power than the delta with it's F1 style turbo, but the delta was an amazing design with the engine being both super charged and turbo'd. Just constant power response from the delta.
@12valvepower4
@12valvepower4 12 жыл бұрын
on my old ps2. colin mcrae rally 3. my 6r4 was my favorite car.. what a monster to drive that thing hard. always sideways always arguing with you. what a monster.
@ALXBurnett
@ALXBurnett 12 жыл бұрын
Best thing is, you can make out the exhaust note from a 6r4 from over 3 miles away... :D
@Gimmazz
@Gimmazz 13 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to be brought up in the Northumberland hills n I used to LOVE watching these little beasts annihilate the cossies, the scoobies and even the twin engined cortinas in the pennine rallies. Good times :) Awesome car.
@stephen88hox
@stephen88hox 12 жыл бұрын
haha never realised the dash had been swapped over,looks like hes in the pasenger side! love metros,mate runs a 1800vvc
@richarddutchholland4780
@richarddutchholland4780 4 жыл бұрын
Austin Rover were selling these brand new out of the factory for 13k in 1987
@mac6away
@mac6away 4 жыл бұрын
I'd heard they were going for £10k at the end. Can you imagine that? Brand new, just off the production line for £10k? ...You're looking at ~£90k at auction now.
@McLarenMercedes
@McLarenMercedes 14 жыл бұрын
Group B Rally was insane. The most powerful cars had 600-700hp, and some claim they had more power than the contemporary Formula 1 racecars of the mid 80's. For the consumers Group B was good too since the rules stipulated a certain number of roadlegal versions had to be built. That's why we saw the Audi Sport Quattro, Peugeot 205T16 (mid engined) and several others.
@Rogermelly01
@Rogermelly01 13 жыл бұрын
@35yearoldboy I do believe that a group B Audi S1 popped over to show the Yanks how to do a hill climb in style over at Pikes Peak. Destroyed everything
@GwyndafS2
@GwyndafS2 12 жыл бұрын
The full group B one had 440 bhp! :)
@F1Oversteer
@F1Oversteer 14 жыл бұрын
what a legend, nice to see a review on it. every bit the monster expected and more!
@johnsullivan937
@johnsullivan937 7 жыл бұрын
are those independent throttle bodies on the v6? damn it must be LOUD!
@markpriestley7812
@markpriestley7812 4 жыл бұрын
Connot beat that sound better than music
@peterjones6321
@peterjones6321 2 жыл бұрын
That review goes to show just how good a driver Tony Pond was. If you watch footage of Pond in the 6R4 he makes rapid progress in a seemingly unhurried way, which given the twitchy chassis, must be no mean feat.
@12valvepower4
@12valvepower4 11 жыл бұрын
my wrx has 227 hp and awd and the torque of a turbo four. which is not terribly much really. its only a 2l turbo. off boost i have no torque,..however a STI versus a metro 6r4 on a rally road would be close. high tech awd and suspension makes up for overwhelming power
@johnmcluskey
@johnmcluskey 11 жыл бұрын
Rohrl's S1e2 at Pikes Peak in 87 was the ultimate Group B car for me. There was the mid-engined 205T16's and delta S4's competing at the race and Rohrl's front engined Audi was over 20 seconds faster than the second place T16. The 205's at Pikes Peak had over 600HP, so who knows what the power output was in the Audi??
@theant9821
@theant9821 6 жыл бұрын
johnmcluskey 8 seconds, and ari vatanen peugeot was leading halfway up the hill.
@paultaylor5502
@paultaylor5502 6 жыл бұрын
The E2 was giving around 600PS
@granttaylor8179
@granttaylor8179 3 жыл бұрын
Same they did not drive the 410BHP Grouo B version.
@JayeOFarrell
@JayeOFarrell 10 жыл бұрын
I'm building one of these at the moment! Its going to be awesome!
@S.Nordang
@S.Nordang 8 жыл бұрын
+Jaye Oliver O'Farrell-Stevens are you moving the engine?
@ellicopter1
@ellicopter1 8 жыл бұрын
+Jaye Oliver O'Farrell-Stevens Did you finish the car yet?
@sichere
@sichere 6 жыл бұрын
In your dreams zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
@cheyennedogsoldiers
@cheyennedogsoldiers 14 жыл бұрын
I remember hiking through Kielder Forest many years ago and almost freezing to death to see these things in action, along with the RS200 and what was that little Peugeot thing?
@alfiecochrane1061
@alfiecochrane1061 3 жыл бұрын
205 T16👍🏼
@porsche911CarreraRSR
@porsche911CarreraRSR 11 жыл бұрын
Same engine in the XJ220, no?
@theant9821
@theant9821 11 жыл бұрын
One of the pikes peak quattro's had just over 850 bhp if they turned the boost up but they wouldn't do it for long periods as everything else couldn't really cope.
@paultaylor5502
@paultaylor5502 6 жыл бұрын
No sadly not close
@theant9821
@theant9821 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Taylor not close to what?
@ITFNBiteBayKon
@ITFNBiteBayKon 8 жыл бұрын
My uncle owns 3 of these beasts!
@navdrum001
@navdrum001 12 жыл бұрын
The diffs lock off power?? Other than the rear locking to stabilise, i.e yaw damping.. can't think why the diffs would lock otherwise...
@Nimmo1492
@Nimmo1492 8 жыл бұрын
Just a wee bit more power than the A+ 1 litre engine.
@Jprincemassey
@Jprincemassey 4 жыл бұрын
ths would be good as a sedan rover metro no offeince that mean making it longer and a special verion called rover metro xxl meaning rover metro limo. i not keen on the v6 layyout but a 3liter inline 4 or 5 would be good tho as well as the v6. the metro had been in btcc as well back in the 1970 called group a or somethinge like tat to late 90s where they was out dated but was called rover 100 later on.
@sunnydaygina
@sunnydaygina 3 жыл бұрын
Lyle are you around? I sent you the parts!!! 🤗 Did they work out for you?
@SammyJ21
@SammyJ21 14 жыл бұрын
What an amazing machine!!!
@giriphotography
@giriphotography 14 жыл бұрын
cant wait for the M3
@VantageCigarretes
@VantageCigarretes 12 жыл бұрын
I've been on the show in la coupe days ago, and spot the Jaguar Xj220 supercar. Is that true that engine in XJ 220 is from this car? That was written on the data sheet.
@arkhsm
@arkhsm 7 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, the xj220 engine was a development of this engine !!
@911gt333
@911gt333 14 жыл бұрын
autocar rock`s! thanks!!! keep up
@tttpietje560
@tttpietje560 13 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy this insane machine?
@cutterbacon
@cutterbacon 3 жыл бұрын
One is on ebay.
@WiltshireByways
@WiltshireByways 11 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@kippo
@kippo 14 жыл бұрын
how about a ford rs200 next?
@Goproflying
@Goproflying 13 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that Jaguar used this engine in the XJ220.
@anotherone10
@anotherone10 14 жыл бұрын
Group B rally was insane
@pakkinen
@pakkinen 14 жыл бұрын
in that rothmans livery it looks awesome!! the 3 look awesome actually, brilliant but lethal :)
@InitialDAmine
@InitialDAmine 14 жыл бұрын
the video is about cars in which prodrive had participated....
@jy2592
@jy2592 5 жыл бұрын
Best sounding group b car
@SWatchik
@SWatchik 12 жыл бұрын
love the pure white rims on rally cars
@stardawg9964
@stardawg9964 3 жыл бұрын
I think most of those cars Dyno at closer to 400-450 PS not "about 380 hp" 🙄
@liverush24
@liverush24 3 жыл бұрын
The full works cars were 420+. Some were 380 for certain snowy rallies.
@12valvepower4
@12valvepower4 11 жыл бұрын
jag xj220 is a amazing car. i want one . mclaren f1 lm too.
@stratac30
@stratac30 5 жыл бұрын
Pity they didn’t get somebody who could drive the 6R4 properly, somebody like Craig Breen rather than this wally.
@ErikGPL
@ErikGPL 8 жыл бұрын
Why does it have a license plate? Is this car street legal? :O
@Chris2010H
@Chris2010H 8 жыл бұрын
in the world of rally many manufacturers actually use license plates from their own country or the team that created the car, such as prodrive, they put license plates on from their home country, check out subaru impreza WRC cars, although they are a Japanese manufacturer, prodrive (the designer and manufacturer of the impreza WRC car) they are a British company :) hope this summed it up for you! haha
@ErikGPL
@ErikGPL 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks, for the info!
@Chris2010H
@Chris2010H 8 жыл бұрын
+Erik2Ammo no problem buddy! :-)
@JonB83
@JonB83 8 жыл бұрын
rally cars need to be street legal, they run on public roads time to time. When going between special stages - the regular stages, you don't see these on TV - they must be able to drive with civilian traffic at the posted limits and make it to the next SS for their start time or incur time penalties. Which also makes them unique in the elite racing world. There was an instance a few years back a police officer didn't allow a driver to get to the next SS because he couldn't allow it on the road due to the damage it had. Forgot who it was, but the driver was like, "I know I can get it there," and the officer agreed but still couldn't allow it on the road.
@chrisdavis1209
@chrisdavis1209 8 жыл бұрын
It is street legal.
@dailyforman
@dailyforman 14 жыл бұрын
if it is extreme fast, so why don't you show us?
@gwhizz8705
@gwhizz8705 3 жыл бұрын
If my numbers came up on the lottery........this is my dream car...metro 6R4........(Escort mark 2 rs2000 a very close second)
@Porsche996TT
@Porsche996TT 14 жыл бұрын
This reviewer is cold for a car lover, but not bad.
@vipersj413
@vipersj413 14 жыл бұрын
Look like "Renault 5 Turbo/Copa Turbo", the most popular rally's car used in Europe's land. Was know like "El creador de viudas" ("The Widow's Maker"). Drivering across France, you can see a lot of "Renault 5 MaxiTurbo", a bigger and powerfull evolution of first one: a collector's desire. Great video: congratulations!!! SaludoX.
@hayksamvelyan
@hayksamvelyan 14 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the M3!
@outbackautomotive
@outbackautomotive 14 жыл бұрын
You seen to forget the RS 200, Stratos, Quatro, ETC....
@TAMBOREBRIO
@TAMBOREBRIO 12 жыл бұрын
pretty cool car
@FenderUsa
@FenderUsa 14 жыл бұрын
would be cool if they could test the ultimate and most crazy group b car, the lancia delta s4
@santclause1
@santclause1 14 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up to bring back group B.
@willthornton4391
@willthornton4391 5 жыл бұрын
the fast car drives quickly around the corner
@pretty00lights
@pretty00lights 14 жыл бұрын
I thought all Group B cars were forced induction??
@gmain1977
@gmain1977 3 жыл бұрын
No this was only one that was not or one of the only one .
@Greig300
@Greig300 14 жыл бұрын
Group B. Could watch it anytime any car am hooked.
@poppomatic
@poppomatic 14 жыл бұрын
We got one too :)
@lewis72
@lewis72 11 жыл бұрын
That'd buy you one tyre, possibly. Try again.
@MasticinaAkicta
@MasticinaAkicta 14 жыл бұрын
Woooo :) now that was fun.
@PKmode
@PKmode 14 жыл бұрын
Group B FTW!!!!
@huwgsxr1000
@huwgsxr1000 11 жыл бұрын
uurrmm...no. jag XJ200 was a twin turbo ally V8, 6R4 had a mid mounted V6 with a basic 4wd set up.
@paulthomson9709
@paulthomson9709 7 жыл бұрын
gixer turbo no it doesnt the xj220 has a the same v6 as the 6r4
@ClaudiaShifferLA
@ClaudiaShifferLA 6 жыл бұрын
XJ220 is 3.5cc Twin-Turbo V6 and the 6R4 2.9cc V6, by the way you have the Jaguar XJ220S TWR (a super version of XJ220)
@theant9821
@theant9821 6 жыл бұрын
it was based on this engine but was different. like this v6 was to the rover v8 on which it was based
@sonofkikkoman
@sonofkikkoman 14 жыл бұрын
ooh wanna see that bmw
@eddohan
@eddohan 13 жыл бұрын
@daedalx Joking or not? lol
@ge3edy
@ge3edy 14 жыл бұрын
Can't w8 for the BMW
@liverush24
@liverush24 12 жыл бұрын
Yes it is true.
@MrDwhphotography
@MrDwhphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Sometime's it's best if the presenter shuts up and lets the car do the talking
@stephen88hox
@stephen88hox 12 жыл бұрын
still racing in ireland
@ClaudiaShifferLA
@ClaudiaShifferLA 6 жыл бұрын
Great car but it was not a super car as Lancia Delta or Audi Quattro
@theant9821
@theant9821 6 жыл бұрын
carrionfernandez the delta s4 and 205 t16 were the big dogs by 1986, the quattro was only competitive in certain events due to its layout/design and compensated by the 5 cylinder engine.
@YETICOPTER
@YETICOPTER 14 жыл бұрын
now do the m3
@luissfalz8822
@luissfalz8822 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Pond car inni
@Brascofarian
@Brascofarian 8 жыл бұрын
"Being an Austin..." Light clusters aside, this car had more in common with a Jaguar XJ220 than any Austin. You can tell because everything Austin touched turned to shit. That's why Rover no longer exists.
@r200ti
@r200ti 7 жыл бұрын
Brascofarian Austin rover had some excellent engineers. The fact it all failed is more to do with British politics than anything
@Brascofarian
@Brascofarian 7 жыл бұрын
The fact Austin assented to control so much of the British car industry is more due to British politics than Austin's engineers. They can't hold a candle to the likes of Rover, Morris, Triumph or even Wolsley.
@Ratsinthereticles
@Ratsinthereticles 5 жыл бұрын
Worth £300,000 today
@jamesgoodwin2450
@jamesgoodwin2450 5 жыл бұрын
Did you really need all the rally outfit just to poodle around the track hahahahaha
@andrewhowden5826
@andrewhowden5826 8 жыл бұрын
why is a girl driving?
@No.Handle31
@No.Handle31 3 жыл бұрын
You can't beat BL Magic 🤪
@Molo9000
@Molo9000 14 жыл бұрын
"Brilliant but lethal" lol
@Emppu_T.
@Emppu_T. 5 жыл бұрын
Box full of bang!
@joeles69
@joeles69 14 жыл бұрын
that car was the shit in dirt2
@BPJJohn
@BPJJohn 11 жыл бұрын
this car worth close to $100000 dollars
@simonl1785
@simonl1785 3 жыл бұрын
Shame this car cant be resurrected for the modern day
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