MG11: The Magnificent Swiss Maxim Gun

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Ай бұрын

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The Swiss were one of the first countries to test Hiram Maxim’s new automatic machine gun in 1887, and they found it far superior to their just-recently-purchased Gardner guns. The first Swiss maxims were delivered in 1889, and the country came back three more times for newer models. The MG94 was the first major adoption, followed by the MG00 for cavalry. Finally, after the Maxim patents expired and DWM introduced their improved 1909 commercial pattern, the Swiss adopted it as the MG11. The first 167 MG11s were produced by DWM, but deliveries ceased in 1915 because of the war. This prompted the Swiss National Assembly to order the government arsenal W.F. Bern to begin production, and between 1915 and 1946 the Swiss made 10,269 more MG11s domestically. They were absolutely beautifully made weapons.
In 1934/35, a modernization program made a number of improvements to the guns. The booster was simplified, the trigger was made one-hand friendly (so the second hand could be used to adjust aim while firing), a bracket for antiaircraft sights was added, and traverse and elevation stops were added to the tripods. Most significantly, the cloth belt was replaced by a fully metal belt. That belt is widely regarded as the best Maxim belt ever produced, and it is particularly valuable to shooters today, as it will function with essentially any caliber in any model of Maxim.
Swiss Maxims were never exported in quantity, and they are quite rare today.
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@martinlarsen7354
@martinlarsen7354 Ай бұрын
"European nations began happily and enthusiastically purchasing Maxims." - yeah that's one way to put it.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
Yep, or you could just go with Maxim's own quote... Either way these are weapons of a type that the Europeans had not fully appreciated the devastation they would reek on the field of battle. They got a modern and dependable "bullet hose", but stayed with tactics that intentionally exposed their soldiers to it's direct... consequences.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 Ай бұрын
@@williestyle35 And even earlier...when deployed in colonial brushfire wars...as Hilare Belloc said lol "He stood upon a little mound, Cast his lethargic eyes around, and said beneath his breath: "Whatever happens we have got The Maxim Gun, and they have not"
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
@@trooperdgb9722 yes, indeed. A memorable quote for sure.
@p99guy
@p99guy Ай бұрын
Well, you have to give it to us Americans… come up with most of the individual elements that changed the face of warfare, and is it’s staple to this very day. We never really stop trying to find a better mousetrap, so to speak, when it comes to turning living beings into composting scattered remnants. I myself only recently found out there were fairly extensive landmine warfare in the American civil war, even in Texas!…. ( I knew about sea mines and harbor devices, and the first torpedoes mounted on a spar)Barbed wire, submarines, aeroplanes, machine guns…. The list of deadly party favors goes on and on.
@SwissBloke
@SwissBloke Ай бұрын
FYI this gun is paperless in Switzerland as only man-portable guns are regulated. That means buying one is the same as buying a soda... a very expensive soda, that needs water cooling
@gregorycarter2835
@gregorycarter2835 Ай бұрын
Time for dual citizenship
@MrNPC
@MrNPC Ай бұрын
So one could make a non-man-portable MG42?
@thischannelisbackon5679
@thischannelisbackon5679 Ай бұрын
Switzerland now deserves 1st place for the "Greatest Nation on Earth" award right now.
@DudeInWalmart
@DudeInWalmart Ай бұрын
Does this count for artillery also?
@katana1430
@katana1430 Ай бұрын
@@DudeInWalmart Maybe? I talked to a Swiss citizen years ago and he said that owning artillery was known, but uncommon. I didn't think to ask him about the laws.
@aaron6178
@aaron6178 Ай бұрын
A thing I really miss from my time in the army was "clicky snappy" sounds of assembling and disassembling gear. Nothing better than a positive click lol. You assembling that tripod got me all sweaty in the derps.
@johnsmith-jq1uc
@johnsmith-jq1uc Ай бұрын
💀
@shable1436
@shable1436 Ай бұрын
There's lots of clicking going on in the military for sure, all that's going through my head as I read that was disassemble, reassemble, disassemble, reassemble, ECT
@pilot778spartan3
@pilot778spartan3 Ай бұрын
Wuh 💀
@cyrusfreeman9972
@cyrusfreeman9972 Ай бұрын
The sound of a company of men cleaning M14s on a crisp fall day....
@TheHorzabora
@TheHorzabora Ай бұрын
Positive feedback is sexy, it’s true.
@gilgamecha
@gilgamecha Ай бұрын
Looking forward to when Ian takes this on Backup Gun Day.
@Horseshoecrabwarrior
@Horseshoecrabwarrior Ай бұрын
It qualifies because he has to back up a vehicle to the firing line to bring the gun up
@JPR3D
@JPR3D Ай бұрын
Just as the founding fathers intended
@spikespa5208
@spikespa5208 Ай бұрын
Want to see Ian on the range with it.
@stephencolley334
@stephencolley334 Ай бұрын
Ha, ha, ha!😉😉😉
@eliasgordon4321
@eliasgordon4321 Ай бұрын
It backs up a whole battalion!
@bikkiikun
@bikkiikun Ай бұрын
"The devil's paint brush"... what an awesome title for a book on a person who developed machine guns.
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 Ай бұрын
Agree, what a striking nickname for the machine gun!
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
It turned out to be a truth of a type the Europeans themselves had not fully appreciated when they started arming their forces with the mighty Maxim gun!
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ Ай бұрын
I’m surprised the Swiss got rid of them. You don’t need to run around with a GPMG when you’re just holding a bunker in the mountains hosing down the mountain passes with a range card refined over 100 years.
@AtholAnderson
@AtholAnderson Ай бұрын
My bet is that most are carefully packed away is 'reserve' stockpiles just in case.
@spikespa5208
@spikespa5208 Ай бұрын
Safe bet.
@thorodin2367
@thorodin2367 Ай бұрын
Warfare has slightly changed. With high precision, bunker penetrating bombs those exposed bunkers are not viable anymore. In addition, the mountain passes are not that important anymore, as cargo via air is much more efficient than when the bunkers were built. Lastly, while those are good guns, the newer replacements can fulfill the same role but are much cheaper in production and maintenance.
@1boortzfan
@1boortzfan Ай бұрын
I can't see the Swiss ever being invaded.
@EricDaMAJ
@EricDaMAJ Ай бұрын
@@thorodin2367 Your first point has some validity. High precision bunker busting bombs can make short work of small bunkers. But they're generally too expensive and too precious to waste on a platoon level asset. They're mostly for HQs buried deep in the earth. I totally disagree with your second point. Mountain passes are still the main routes into and out of Switzerland. Cargo planes are expensive, have limited capacity, and are vulnerably. Especially flying over the mountains where they can be hit with, ironically, machine guns in bunkers. (Though MANPADs are better still). The idea of invading and sustaining an invasion with cargo planes alone is laughable. The third point isn't terribly valid. Maxim machine guns are known for their incredible robustness. They're still using Maxim guns in the Ukraine war. There's little doubt they'd be just as mechanically capable today as they would be in 1914. Modern GPMGs are purposely under built so the factories can pump more of them out quicker, with attrition rates built in. They do and will wear out quicker than the old Maxims. Also, GPMPs are built with the intent to provide mobile machine gun fire for offense and an active defense. They're in fact ideal for a nation _attacking_ Switzerland. And they're definitely useful for the Swiss Army so they can mount rapid counter attacks, leaving the heaver Maxims in the bunkers.
@-Master_Of_Disaster
@-Master_Of_Disaster Ай бұрын
9:44 "It's not very Swiss because it's not that complicated." 😂 Thanks Ian!
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins Ай бұрын
a black powder maxim must have been a hell of a sight, just a massive cloud of smoke
@themastermason1
@themastermason1 Ай бұрын
Shooting the gun must have been like chain smoking an entire carton or two of cigarettes in a minute.
@gawkthimm6030
@gawkthimm6030 Ай бұрын
I had a thought about that, it might have been "practice" for those to be fired by someone taking directions from a spotter further away position using a telescope, that way it could fire continuously into the cloud of smoke, but if the spotter can see where the bullets land they can give firing directions.
@Ctiradloss
@Ctiradloss Ай бұрын
“Hans! We need a smoke screen!” Hans: “Wait no more…” Brrrrrrrrt
@alexsis1778
@alexsis1778 Ай бұрын
@@gawkthimm6030 Early machine guns were most definitely considered and used like artillery. It was the only thing they had to compare it to as a crew served weapon. Also i'm not so sure there was a sight of anything when a black powder maxim is firing lol.
@aceman2506
@aceman2506 29 күн бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxim_gun#/media/File:HiramMaxim_MaximGun.gif
@JohnTBlock
@JohnTBlock Ай бұрын
Saw a Brit demonstration video with a .303 Vickers, where the gunners knew how to get the bezt use of the tripod; locked down tbe windage and elevation to about 12 incbes above the ground on an oak tree roughly 15 inches across, and proceeded to chop said tree DOWN. IIRC, it took 2 - 3 1/2 belts to "git'er done"....surprisingly clean-cut, too! Start on the edge, 3 rounds, bump it, 4xrounds, bump, 7, bump, etcetera, across the trunk. It. Was. AWESOME!
@Madcow42SS
@Madcow42SS Ай бұрын
Just looked up the results of this auction. Sold for $48,000 which does actually seem like a very good value for such a nice piece.
@ForgottenWeapons
@ForgottenWeapons Ай бұрын
This auction doesn't happen until May 8. The one you saw was from 5 years ago; an example with ALL the accessories.
@shable1436
@shable1436 Ай бұрын
​@@ForgottenWeaponsso this one will be similar because of inflation
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Ай бұрын
@@shable1436 You never know. Sometimes there isn't much interest and other times you get a few rich guys bidding against each other. It will be interesting to watch.
@vincentvdh9
@vincentvdh9 Ай бұрын
@@jfess1911the question is: is it a pre ban exempt full speed machine gun? Full auto is banned because of reasons? Fine fine, let me grab my Maxim real quick.
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Ай бұрын
@@vincentvdh9 You are right that there are a lot of things that can affect the price for machineguns. These days, I think most would consider this a collector's item/ piece of art. I am old enough, though, to remember times of relatively inexpensive surplus ammo, when this might have been considered a fancy range toy. I think Ian has discussed the change in the market as surplus ammo began to dry up and the relative attractiveness and price of belt-feds dropped as opposed to magazine-fed.
@Sugarmountaincondo
@Sugarmountaincondo Ай бұрын
Just looking at it you can see the quality of craftsmanship that went into this MG. Thanks for the review of it. 👍👍👍👍
@stephencolley334
@stephencolley334 Ай бұрын
Just like a Swiss watch. The quality is obvious!
@inductivegrunt94
@inductivegrunt94 Ай бұрын
I could watch a full hour of Forgotten Weapons ASMR where Ian just sets up guns like this. I just love the old Maxim guns. The water jacket around the barrel makes the gun so beautiful to look at.
@JeffBilkins
@JeffBilkins Ай бұрын
You've probably seen it but (for those who havent) search this channel for "Argentine Brass Maxim" for another hit of what you describe.
@duaneperkins8329
@duaneperkins8329 Ай бұрын
The Swiss have the most beautiful guns. Great tripod...surprised they didn't include a clock in it. 🤩🤑
@JohnSmith-pl2bk
@JohnSmith-pl2bk Ай бұрын
That would have been cuckoo...oh wait....
@CsDeathshadow
@CsDeathshadow Ай бұрын
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk cuckoo clocks are german, not swiss.
@user-kz8tw4vj7z
@user-kz8tw4vj7z Ай бұрын
"Good heavens, look at the time!" *creates a no-mans-land
@webtoedman
@webtoedman Ай бұрын
If the barrel is elevated to the correct position in relation to the horizon, it can be used as a sundial.
@SwissBloke
@SwissBloke Ай бұрын
@@CsDeathshadow while the original cukoo clocks are indeed German, the "chalet" cuckoo which most refeer to when talking about cuckos is a Swiss style
@Acidic-ue2ml
@Acidic-ue2ml Ай бұрын
Never expected a Forgotten Weapons episode to start with ASMR. A surprise, but a welcome one really
@948320z
@948320z Ай бұрын
Forgotten Weapons, C&Rsenal etc should have an ASMR stream where they dis/re-assemble old guns.
@G.W-01
@G.W-01 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind assembly and disassembly/ maintenance vids done in asmr from Ian that would be awesome.
@G.W-01
@G.W-01 Ай бұрын
@@948320z absolutely that would be amazing especially if Mae got involved.
@beargillium2369
@beargillium2369 Ай бұрын
But... It's all asmr
@gunman11
@gunman11 Ай бұрын
What a nice example, that spare lock stored in the tri pod just knocked me out ! And I was impressed with how easy Ian fit the A lock in the gun ! Bravo 👏 👏 👏.
@jamesrosar3823
@jamesrosar3823 Ай бұрын
Also, a fine machine is easy to work with. Both ways impressive.
@martingardener90
@martingardener90 Ай бұрын
I love the way that the Swiss gentleman tells Mr Maxim about his target a 1200 meters while doing a impersonation of Sean Connery!
@ethanjohnson2885
@ethanjohnson2885 Ай бұрын
What boys see when putting a camera on a tripod
@chiranmayumedis9452
@chiranmayumedis9452 Ай бұрын
Totally!!!
@lairdsteele2817
@lairdsteele2817 Ай бұрын
🤦🏼‍♂️
@tbo2307
@tbo2307 Ай бұрын
The 6,5x55 developed by Norway (and Sweden) was also made to be effective against horses, and have the capability to be used in company or batallion fire against targets 1k away.
@countercorps
@countercorps Ай бұрын
I loved that we got to see the set up as the beginning of the video instead of the gun already setup
@jamesdouglas8760
@jamesdouglas8760 Ай бұрын
Ian you demonstrate, with knowledge, history, and the physical "Hands On" functionality, and developmental evolution of all the weapons you cover, very professional and straight forward. A pleasure to follow, understand what you are conveying is a 10, Thanks.
@fragnix808
@fragnix808 Ай бұрын
Great video as always! Just for future use, "Bern" (from Waffenfabrik Bern) is actually pronounced more like "bearn" like a bear, or "bear" with me, or bare-handed, not "burn".
@andothun-rg5ms
@andothun-rg5ms Ай бұрын
Great Video, I have seen them in Swiss fortifications. Just to add to the information about the markings on the MG, the metal plaque on the back of the tripod mentions the distance of friendly soldiers on the left and on the right the corresponding setting of the rear sight as to safely shoot above them.
@enricopaolocoronado2511
@enricopaolocoronado2511 Ай бұрын
Setting up the tripod and the MG itself just feels so cinematic.
@gregwarner3753
@gregwarner3753 Ай бұрын
A long time ago (1980's) I was inspecting a factory and saw a small machine weaving cloth belts complete with cartridge loops for Maxim MG's. I suppose there are forces somewhere still using these guns. They worked well and still do. The man I was with said that they still sell all they can make.
@ArchOfficial
@ArchOfficial Ай бұрын
Maxim variants are in use in Ukraine right now, complete with heretical attachments like red dot sights.
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Ай бұрын
@@ArchOfficial RED dot sights. There is a tasteless joke somewhere with that punchline.
@DrLuke-pk8ow
@DrLuke-pk8ow Ай бұрын
That range table is actually very interesting, since it is made to shoot over the heads of your own troops. The left side says "Distance to troops shot over", whereas the right side says "safety sight setting"; thus making sure you're shooting far enough above the heads of your own guys so as not to endanger them.
@jarink1
@jarink1 Ай бұрын
People know the names Einstein and Edison, but it's really a shame that Hiram Maxim is virtually unknown. The guy was really a genius.
@memesandgtag
@memesandgtag Ай бұрын
Swiss engineering at its finest
@user-bs5xz2gs6l
@user-bs5xz2gs6l Ай бұрын
What a treat! Thanks. Spent the last half of the 1980's in Switzerland, and everyone's workmanship was superb. No surprise about the MG being superb.
@trooperdgb9722
@trooperdgb9722 Ай бұрын
That Tripod must be considered the epitome of "Swiss-ness"! LOL. Having the spare lock in there was amazing!
@nicholasshaler7442
@nicholasshaler7442 Ай бұрын
Seems like a good option for home defense.
@gustonzimasheen
@gustonzimasheen Ай бұрын
This truly was magnificent. I feel like it's almost a return to the early days of Forgotten Weapons (without that cool intro music). Great work as always.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
Seeing Ian sitting on the floor next to this mighty Swiss made Maxim machine gun did remind me a lot of some of his much earlier videos.
@desischnix3973
@desischnix3973 Ай бұрын
The sounds the tripod makes when errected is pure asmr..
@gilgamecha
@gilgamecha Ай бұрын
I thank the Lord That Ian has got A Maxim gun But I have not.
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Ай бұрын
The money in your bank account gives a sigh of relief.😮‍💨
@causewaykayak
@causewaykayak Ай бұрын
You should have one. Why not ?
@Qualltoxy
@Qualltoxy Ай бұрын
Your WW1-ish era machine gun videos are some of my favourites. Glad to see a new one and Swiss no less!
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
7:20 the "one handed" firing was definitely something the Swiss would add as an "improvement". While their main forces might be well dug in to bunkers and the like, with good support and supplies - the Swiss did have some limitations on the manpower side. While most adult males were technically "reserves", they were not an unlimited force that could fill every role. Having a "heavy" machine gun that could be serviced by 3 to 4 soldiers, instead of the better part of a squad was an important consideration for the Swiss. Thank you for this lovely video Ian, it reminds me of your other coverage on similar not so "forgotten" weapons from years back (especially the Mg 08 and other "heavy" machine guns).
@askelnard6655
@askelnard6655 Ай бұрын
i do really love the way, how Ian sitting like that with his legs crossed and visible agitation near some vintage obscure piece of military history.
@LazyLifeIFreak
@LazyLifeIFreak Ай бұрын
That's not a machine gun, that's an artillery piece disguised as a machine gun!
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Ай бұрын
That is pretty much how they were viewed in WWI.
@1boortzfan
@1boortzfan Ай бұрын
If you read the book by McBride called "The Emma Gees" that's how they used them because they didn't know how to really use them in WWI.
@brettnelson6710
@brettnelson6710 Ай бұрын
​@jfess1911 well it is a 100 lbs lol
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Ай бұрын
@@brettnelson6710 Yup. Kinda difficult for concealed carry.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
As commented - that is how they were viewed at the earliest stages of WWI - "light artillery". It would not take long for the Imperial German military, the British Army, and others to quickly figure out that if you spread "heavy machine guns" in units across a front line, very bad things happened to unsupported forces attacking in the open (as was a common battlefield tactic in the beginning).
@AluVixapede
@AluVixapede Ай бұрын
... I love that optic. What a magnificent, regal, 1900s tacti-cool optic
@stumpythedwarf8712
@stumpythedwarf8712 Ай бұрын
Thank you Ian for showing us this piece of history.
@higgydufrane
@higgydufrane Ай бұрын
Thank-you Ian, another super-informative video.
@fjallaxd7355
@fjallaxd7355 Ай бұрын
Excellent video, Ian. I love Maxim guns.
@BleedingUranium
@BleedingUranium Ай бұрын
Thank you as always for showing us the reticles in all the various optics you cover, that sort of thing can be hard if not impossible to find anywhere else. :)
@PrebleStreetRecords
@PrebleStreetRecords Ай бұрын
You could probably set your watch by the cyclic rate.
@twanheijkoop6753
@twanheijkoop6753 Ай бұрын
Probably the only Maxim that doesn't vary it's fire rate when it heats up.
@randylahey2242
@randylahey2242 Ай бұрын
It would probably be just as accurate as a shitty Swiss watch to
@timrea9003
@timrea9003 Ай бұрын
Thank you so much Ian Bless you man
@thesep1967
@thesep1967 Ай бұрын
The 'range table' at 12:36 is something else. It has two parallel marks and tells the shooter what minimum elevation to use (right column: 'Sicherheitsvisier' = safety sight) when overshooting own troops (distance in left column: 'überschossene Truppe') during peacetime training. Generally it's about 600m added elevation but this grows exponentially when your guys are getting nearer to the gun. At 100m distance to your friends the safety sight to be used is 2000m elevation! The Swiss are well known to overshoot own troops regularly during training, that's one reason why they didn't adopt the MG 42 but made their own over-engineered version with the MG 51.
@tedcollins4684
@tedcollins4684 Ай бұрын
Fantastic quality machinework.
@TheHylianBatman
@TheHylianBatman Ай бұрын
I love the Swiss so much.
@Alxlpziv
@Alxlpziv Ай бұрын
Babe wake up Ian dropped another video…
@John-py4zt
@John-py4zt Ай бұрын
Beautiful
@catlee8064
@catlee8064 Ай бұрын
The starting part of this video brought me out in sweats....setting up that tripod. During my time at breacon, i had the pleasure of being told to carry the GPMG tripod....i hated that thing more than my ex.....
@ostsan8598
@ostsan8598 Ай бұрын
That is a beautiful Maxim. Even the tripod is lovely. Not a single thing was overlooked in developing the platform.
@NoosaHeads
@NoosaHeads Ай бұрын
I'm in Australia, so there's no chance of buying one of these unless it's deactivated (which would be heresy). I've seen and handled a few Vickers machine guns at dealers and gunsmiths. The Maxim and Vickers are simply gorgeous. I'd love one.
@AllAboutSurvival
@AllAboutSurvival Ай бұрын
The MG11's history and evolution showcased brilliantly. The modernization upgrades in 1934/35 truly elevated its performance.
@terrybailey9621
@terrybailey9621 Ай бұрын
Now imagine running a pk machine gun with a Swiss mg11 belt, in theory it should work since it's a maxim belt
@baobo67
@baobo67 Ай бұрын
Swiss kit always looks pristine. Never seen the ''mud, the blood or the beer'' I guess.
@davidschofield387
@davidschofield387 Ай бұрын
I'm always in awe of how Ian presents and shows/demonstrates weapons, I never get tired of watching.......but that poor laminate flooring took a real good hammering from the tripod mount lol, still, excellent review 👍😁
@michaeldunn7716
@michaeldunn7716 Ай бұрын
Really cool episode! Fascinating history! God bless all here.
@stephencolley334
@stephencolley334 Ай бұрын
This example appears to be a beautifully preserved specimen. Thanks to the previous owner/s for maintaining this important piece of history! 😁😁😁😁😁
@UAuaUAuaUA
@UAuaUAuaUA Ай бұрын
Great channel and a story told by a person who has actually read books about it. Thank you.
@robertbowman2024
@robertbowman2024 Ай бұрын
The 1900's DI would instruct the firing line to "hang the lock", as Ian demonstrated. [it's not a bolt] Next DI command was to "drop your lock, load the ammo belt". LOCK AND LOAD
@johnerdis5094
@johnerdis5094 Ай бұрын
Did you know that a selection of forgotten weapons videos are available on prime TV? Neither did i until I stumbled across them the other day!
@RoofAndAMeal4UsAll
@RoofAndAMeal4UsAll Ай бұрын
Wow that is magnificent.
@springheeledjacques
@springheeledjacques Ай бұрын
As the owner of a K31, which uses the same 7.5x55mm Swiss ammo, I can attest to how much of a pain getting it is here in the states. Gone are the days of $.70/rd GP11 surplus ammo; your only options now are S&B and PP, both of which make decent ammo but which will run you upwards of $1.70 a cartridge. If you want actual match-grade ammunition your only option in the USA is probably Steinel, who will sell you very high-quality ammunition for $2.50/rd. Ouch!
@kennethkeller6477
@kennethkeller6477 Ай бұрын
My dad use this one when he was in the Swiss army
@mattwilliams3456
@mattwilliams3456 Ай бұрын
The spare lock box is amazingly Swiss.
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Ай бұрын
Thank goodness someone on the design team resisted the urge to put a finely crafted lock on it.
@fredhagman387
@fredhagman387 Ай бұрын
Beautiful weapon.
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 Ай бұрын
Ian’s next Two Gun event is going to be awesome.
@bruceinoz8002
@bruceinoz8002 Ай бұрын
Nice overview of a great piece of hardware..1911 was quite a year for Swiss ordnance. The MG-11 as depicted here, the G-11 and K-11 rifle and "carbine" and the thing that was the real magic; the GP-11 cartridge, with its super-slinky bullet. Genuine GP-11 ammo is impossible to find in shooting quantities and at a sane price, here in the penal colonies, but those of us eccentric K-11and K-31 drivers, "improvise and overcome". with creative hand-loading. Maybe you could break out the Alpenhorns and Treicheln (cow-bells) and arrange a "Swiss" day on the range with an array of handguns, SMGs, rifles and MGs. The ZfK 55 "sniper" rig is quite a piece of engineering and its FG42-esque muzzle device is a revelation.
@FirstSpaceLord
@FirstSpaceLord Ай бұрын
Thanks for the vid could you do one about the Bergmann MG?
@Axonteer
@Axonteer Ай бұрын
I love this quick adjustable elevation mechanism reminds me a lot of my gearhead for my camera's tripod. I always found this very neat and thought why weapon tripods didnt use something like this.. well... i was corrected, and it even was my country that did this :D
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 Ай бұрын
In true Swiss fashion, they went all out in quality here. Even the serial number is a work of art.
@Anon_Amous
@Anon_Amous Ай бұрын
When I visited the Swiss Guard museum at the Holy See years back I saw a pic of the Swiss Guard in WWII using a gun that looked very close to this.
@shawnr771
@shawnr771 Ай бұрын
Very nice.
@leewilkinson6372
@leewilkinson6372 Ай бұрын
Does anyone know if any maxims of this version were used in combat? I would be interested to see how the system holds up in those conditions if there are any reports. By all appearances, this seems incredibly precise and well thought out!
@mr.andrew9171
@mr.andrew9171 Ай бұрын
Makes me remember the video Ian did on the WW1 machine guns a couple years ago. A British artillery officer brought his machine gun group to an exercise (pre-war) where his machine gun raked the cavalry with blanks and theoretically killed most of the unit. His superiors just chided him for not displaying honor. Meanwhile you have the Swiss who almost immediately saw the potential of this weapon and looked into adopting it.
@jfess1911
@jfess1911 Ай бұрын
As alien as this sounds today, this was the era when Scott and his men decided to drag their own equipment and supplies towards the South Pole because there was no honor in using sled dogs to do the hard work. Spoilers: It did not turn out well.
@causewaykayak
@causewaykayak Ай бұрын
Us brits are dumb. Automatic firearms were rejected by the holiest and mightiest as "gangster weapons" who in their right mind would fight for such a bunch of drips.
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 Ай бұрын
The Swiss had a unique situation where their Army was not as large as others and they were only going to be defending their own territory. Heavy weapons in bunkers was the "order of battle" for the majority of Swiss forces - and the reliability of the Maxim was known and appreciated as well.
@patrickporter1864
@patrickporter1864 Ай бұрын
His superiors were probably horse soldiers.
@audiencesmember
@audiencesmember Ай бұрын
I want two of these, please.
@TMFShooting
@TMFShooting Ай бұрын
Another Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@YaBoiZackbannedmefordissent
@YaBoiZackbannedmefordissent Ай бұрын
Did anybody else hear the Transformers sound-effect in their heads when Ian was setting up the tripod?
@martinswiney2192
@martinswiney2192 Ай бұрын
Imagine being the sales rep for Gardner with dreams of a big commission and a new boat dancing in your head. Then Maxim shows up and you coin the phrase Gone in 60 Seconds. 😂
@austinlee3288
@austinlee3288 Ай бұрын
Loved the almost ASMR style intro!
@matthewspencer972
@matthewspencer972 Ай бұрын
The traverse slide takes the place of the wooden sticks which a Vickers gunner would put in the ground to mark his arcs out.
@cynthiakoehne7004
@cynthiakoehne7004 Ай бұрын
do the Gardiner gun next PLEASE, I always liked that liked that gun since I was a boy, simple but effective, plus you can regulate your fire with crank speed!
@BillMurray137
@BillMurray137 Ай бұрын
I got so excited.
@SirDamned
@SirDamned Ай бұрын
Absolutely beautiful piece of overbuilt early 1900s engineering
@gregorycarter2835
@gregorycarter2835 Ай бұрын
Every single swiss gun I've owned was so precisely machined and hardened that with a drop of oil made the action feel like I used grease, buttery smooth.
@Braun30
@Braun30 Ай бұрын
In 2011 I shot this machine gun. It belongs to a friend of mine and is fully matching serials, gun and stand, serial number being #1911.
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 Ай бұрын
The devils paint bush - what a nickname for a machine gun. Sadly humans are still using machine guns over 100 years later, but we are working on lasers at least for drones.
@mauricematla8379
@mauricematla8379 Ай бұрын
Cool one
@manatoa1
@manatoa1 Ай бұрын
I'm in love. I want it so badly.
@SafetyProMalta
@SafetyProMalta Ай бұрын
Glorious ❤
@joenegrin3667
@joenegrin3667 Ай бұрын
Could not stop looking at receptible in the background 🙃
@adityasanyal1678
@adityasanyal1678 Ай бұрын
I liked this video the moment I saw that tripod being assembled, the Swiss know their guns and a Swiss Maxim is probably the Creme de La Creme no matter what anyone else has made!!!!!
@ValidSurvival
@ValidSurvival Ай бұрын
The modernization upgrades in 1934/35, especially the fully metal belt, show how innovation meets tradition in the world of firearms.
@dreamingflurry2729
@dreamingflurry2729 Ай бұрын
Nice gun...for a fixed position I'd prefer the watercooled gun (as long as you keep water handy this will work better than air-cooled) :)
@Slithermotion
@Slithermotion Ай бұрын
Yeah…until you the guy who has to carry the stuff around to move positions.
@rickrooks5060
@rickrooks5060 Ай бұрын
Any chance there will be an Ian’s tripod roundup in the future? A comparison of different tripods from WW1 and WW2 heavy machines guns.
@johnking6252
@johnking6252 Ай бұрын
Absolutely love the story, nasty looking piece machinery 👍
@onenote6619
@onenote6619 Ай бұрын
I would argue the Vickers version was the gold standard for extreme reliability and durability. If the Swiss version had Steampunk brass chasing and clockwork modules, that would be most admirable.
@itsconnorstime
@itsconnorstime Ай бұрын
The Maxim gun is still the ultimate machine gun.
@jcorbett9620
@jcorbett9620 Ай бұрын
For some bizarre reason, as soon as Ian said it was Swiss, I half expected him to place it on the ground, press a button and for some precision clockwork, to extend the tripod, swivel the gun into place and load it ready for use, all with Ian standing back with his hands on his hips, looking on. Was almost disapointed when he did it all manually! lol.
@connorsproles9239
@connorsproles9239 Ай бұрын
Magnificent
@hillbillyscholar8126
@hillbillyscholar8126 Ай бұрын
The Maxim is alright too. Gun Jesus is all knowing as always.
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