MG4 51 kWh range test

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[@Dawheel90]

Hi Bjorn from the UK! Great video as always! I have the MG4 in Trophy (Luxury) trim, with 64kWh NMC battery. The stereo in this trim has 6 speakers and it's much better. As others pointed out, the intelligent battery heating has an impact on consumption, but it's suggested to use it only if temperature drops under 5 Celsius. I've had the car for 2 months and I keep track of the consumption, miles, charges. It seems to me that the trigger temperature for my car is 7 Celsius: under that temperature the efficiency is ~3.0 miles/kWh (~4.8 km/kWh), at 7-8 Celsius I get easily 3.5mls/kWh (5.6km/kWh) on the motorway or ~4.0 mls/kWh (6.4km/kWh) elsewhere.

[@Dawheel90]

Quick update, I've done a 320 miles trip last Sunday, about 11°C, 5 people on board, going mostly uphill in the first half of the trip, A/C always on, doing 70miles/h on the motorway. Average consumption was 3.5 miles/kWh (3.4 going there and 3.6 on the way back), but I also had to push a little bit as we were in a hurry, so I think it's a fair result. Also I fast charged twice, once on a 100kW and once on 120kW chargers. I hit the maximum output power of the charger in the first case (after 1.5 hour driving) and just above 110kW in the second case (cold battery). The second one took 32 Min to charge from 24% to 86%. So I'm happy with my purchase so far.

[@ashb8572]

​@@Dawheel90 thank you the details. My SE long range gets 143kw speeds on higher power chargers regardless of a cold battery. This is the case from 3% until 52% after which it tapers down gradually

[@bill_heywood]

Great vid. Can't wait for the MG4 big battery tests in Norway 👍

[@wermagst]

The main problem with the MG4 in Germany is that options like heated seats or tinted rear windows are tied to battery size. Most extras are simply not available with the 51 kWh LFP battery..

[@chris75sf]

Yes it is available in both versions in France , 51 and 64kWh

[@willsbrewery3518]

Have this car in the UK and loving it so far. Have to admit I've noticed the mg pilot issues which annoys me as we also have an MG HS and the mg pilot in that is so perfect so MG do know how to do it!

[@InBodWeTrust]

Rated tyre pressure is 37psi (or 2.55bar). Interestingly your car shows pressure in psi, yet here in the UK (where we actually tend to use psi) the car shows pressure in bar (with no way to change it). 🙄 (Tyre pressure corrected ... 37.5psi is what I usually set my compressor to, to account for the small pressure loss that happens when removing the compressor from the valve) 🙂

[@undecided25]

Please people do your homework on the battery difference. The standard range LFP battery can be charged all day, every day to 100% over far more cycles with far less degradation. The long range NMC battery should only be charged to 80% on a regular basis and has far less charge cycles. On the WLTP cycle the standard range SE can do 218 miles at 100% safe usage. The long range SE can do 281 miles at an 80% safe usage.Therefore 80% of 281 miles = 225 miles. So on a day by day basis there is only 4 miles difference between standard and long range. Yes, the long range "can" do more miles on the very rare occasion you might need to but not all the time. So be honest..... When was the last time you went on a trip of more than 150 miles? In the UK the average EV journey is just 30 miles.

[@sailingoctopus1]

Don't think LFP vs LMC comparison is quite as bad as you suggest. The life of the LFP batteries is clearly significantly greater, but for most people the life of LMC batteries will be entirely adequate, even if they charge to 100% every time. The amortized cost per mile of LMC batteries is pretty low (less than two pence per mile, I seem to remember - if replaced at 70% degradation), so is pretty insignificant at a time when EVs cost about 10p a mile to run if charging at home on a standard tariff. The battery testing that arrives at the figures of 2,000 cycles for LMC and 3,000 to 5,000 cycles for LFP charges to 100% each cycle and uses 100% full charge equivalent to measure cycles (to account for battery degradation), so although charging to 100% will reduce the life of LMC batteries and increase the rate of degradation the lifetime of the LMC batteries should be adequate for most people even if charged to 100% each time. Simplistically, the SE LR achieves 281 miles (WLTP Combine) each cycle, so if it achieves 2,000 full charge cycles, when charged to 100% each time, then it's lifetime (before degradation causes it to fall to below 80% of its original capacity) is 562,000 miles. Of course few people achieve WLTP every charge and the health of the battery pack is determined by the worst performing cell (although these can be replaced individually), so the picture is not as rosy as this. However, for some use cases 80% capacity is still fine and 50% capacity may still be fine, so it's possible to eke out the life of the batteries. So, while only charging to 80% will increase the life of an LMC battery pack do most people care? It will make hardly any difference to the cost per mile over the lifetime of the vehicle and, in the UK at least, the vehicle is likely to have rusted away before the battery needs replacing. I bought the SE SR with LFP batteries for environmental and ethical reasons (last longer and contain no Cobalt), for safety reasons (no risk of thermal runaway), for financial reasons (cheaper) and for after life (potential use in a Powerwall for years after the car has rusted away)

[@mfurmyr]

It managed 338 km during the Norwegian Elprix winter test.

[@MetBassKriss]

That was the long range, not LFP short range as this

[@foreverwhisper]

You can improve sound quality of stereo by turning on Arkamys 3D effect in setting menu. This tech feels like pushing away some bad speakers afar and it becomes a little bit bearable. Not sure if all configurations have this option. And the brightness of the dashboard monitor can be adjusted using buttons on the right part of steering wheel. Yes the ADAS is not very convincing, it seems SAIC just orders a batch of cheap ADAS modules and slaps it on the car. As what I find on the car body, it depends on one ultrasonic and one front camera for ADAS. So after all you get what you pay for eh?

[@alanhold2468]

in the UK we get 51kwh and 64kwh versions

[@norbertklein3477]

Can't believe that Model Y is more efficient than this little MG. The figures for MG4 on EV database are actually lower (nearly the same as for Model Y), I wonder how they are measured.

[@GordonWilson]

We test drove the MG4 a week ago and while driving was fine, that stereo makes the car an instant no for us which is a shame. There's no upgrade or way to fix it via an optional upgrade, so you're stuck with this tinny soundstage forever. I gave it a 3/10 😂 Thought cheap might be the best plan but after having to go to the top just for the basics we ended up with a barely used Polestar 2 for 35k and what a difference to drive! Amazing bit of kit.

[@r33gts]

My MG4 trophy model is fine sounding,but I would never buy a car for its stereo anyway, it's all about the driving 🚘 experience 👍😊

[@GordonWilson]

@@Wdf-76 You have no idea, me and the missus felt sick just hearing it 😂 Like they asked B&M to design the audio setup.

[@GordonWilson]

@@r33gts Very true. It was a good enough drive but man... It's just not acceptable even at that price range. Better stereo on a Clio from 2010.

[@IanMcc1000]

Live with it for a couple of years, if you keep the car upgrade the speakers.

[@SteveLoughran]

driver assist and hills isn't a problem unique to this. I've had rental prius on a US freeway with adaptive cruise control set to 70, going along in traffic at about 55-60, then as soon as the vehicle in front drops out of site over a rise the car decided to accelerate up to its cruise limit without wondering what happened to the car in front. Pretty disconcerting the first time you experience it

[@philipperapaccioli2868]

Bjorn, if you still have the car, you need to check whether the intelligent battery heating option is turned on. This is meant to heat the battery before fast charging, but left on, it does significantly increase consumption. Just took delivery of a standard 51 kw/h version. Currently it is quite cold, under zero degrees, and so far, the MG4 is indeed quite thirsty, but then LFP batterie do not like the cold unless they are well managed like in the Tesla 3 LFP. Other than that, agree with your assessment. The sound system is not great, interior is well built but dark (your interior is an option on top level 64 Kw version in Europe), car is fun to drive, fairly quiet, handles well, fast and roomy. The software is a little buggy, but Android Auto works well. The lane keep assist does not like sharp turns as you demonstrate, but on European highways it works well enough. So if you enjoy driving and handling, this is a great car at a bargain price, but if you are an infotainment geek, then there may be better choices.

[@Simon-dm8zv]

kWh 😊

[@Jukonja]

The way they write "kilo watt hours" with capital K is killing my OCD, one row below it's fine. Thanks Bjorn!

[@christophemadeline9753]

Waiting for the tests with 64kwh and the bigger battery coming soon in Europe.

[@ari197]

yes, europe also get that 51 Kwh LFP version

[@riccardodanesin4531]

yes in europe there is. but i attend your test in Norway with 64 kw/h. the battery of 64 kw/h is super and has a super great recharge curve! top! for music in luxury is super but not with radio but with all other source.

[@bjornnyland]

*64 kWh

[@layseebalsam]

Standard range available in configurator in Norway now.

[@dronedirectorfo107]

You must have forgotten to adjust the sound settings, because in my luxury edition i get very good bass that is felt quite strong on my chest. High, middle and low tones are also adjustable.

[@mdshovel]

I don't like or trust any kind of steering assist in any car. But I mainly drive badly marked rural roads. My work vehicle tries to send me to the middle of the road ... or into the hedge. I have to turn it off every time I get in as it resets ... luckily in my own XC40 EV Twin I can have it all off by default

[@leeebbrell9]

Thanks for this, my wife is looking to buy one of these really useful.. im not letting here near my i4

[@swatcher1]

Thank you for the test and your opinion Bjørn! :) The "Luxury" edition with heatpump and 64kW accupack (and some more equipment) is listed with Kr 354 200 in Norway. I can´t compare - is this a good price over there, too, like in germany? Or are there cheaper cars with better specs available actually? =) As mentioned in a earlier vid there is an update available for the MG Pilot which SHOULD make it much less intrusive which would be a great step forwards I think.

[@bjornnyland]

*64 kWh

[@colingoode3702]

Wish we had that lighter interior in the UK. Ours are all black which makes the car very dark inside, not helped buy the lack of any rear passenger lighting either.

[@marks-0-0]

Ye black interiors are grim

[@Zdendo463]

LFP means something like Low Fire Probability? :-)

[@mikebikekite1]

I enjoyed your video, both entertaining and informative.

[@stuartirwin3779]

Driving on rough concrete roads will definitely have a big influence on energy consumption. It certainly does even in my ICE car on the very rough concrete motorways we have here in South East Queensland.

[@trasta]

Mg 4 Luxury has better sound and 2 more speakers…and light in mirror 😊. Now we can also order standard in Norway. Cost 285k nok

[@bjornnyland]

This is high trim (X) and not low trim (D).

[@wermagst]

@@bjornnyland I don't know about Norway, but in Germany high trim is not available for the 51 kWh version. You can't have heated seats, heat pump, tinted windows, electrically adjusted seat etc. The rear spoiler is also missing.

[@sewmeister]

Standard now cost 266k nok including winter tires. Good deal?

[@KubaYa1411]

Hey Bjorn, we need 1000km challenge, especially of long range 🤞🏼

[@stianthomassen6693]

It’s coming to Norway, you can order it now and I have seen commercials on the standard version.

[@Astrophysikus]

I do not get this door closing sound in my Model 3 either 😀

[@Enricosikki]

I ordered this car in Germany and will get it in one week

[@johndinsdale1707]

Hi Bjorn, please test the SE LR 64 NCM + heat pump, the LFP 51 is a bit meh?

[@kiwicontrol7966]

Hello i have a standard range it's exactly the same range with the 51 kwh battery ; in France with kumho tyres

[@leeebbrell9]

Where is the power, how do you see how much you pressed the peddle

[@happysporran]

Good balanced review 👍

[@user-yn5sk5ru5g]

Would be a good step up from my e-Golf, hopefully the price will be acceptable 🤞

[@Lucaat]

the standard model gets no reverse camera, you have to opt for the highest trim luxury model (at least in Austria) to get camera. I dont understand this. The difference is almost 7000€ I know it comes with bigger battery but they should at least offer normal reversing camera on comfort model. But it is either max trim 360 camera or nothing. Strange.

[@colla555]

Do you know what the snowflake symbol in the HVAC menu is for? The manual doesn't tell. There also is the A/C button for enabling the A/C compressor (cooling function).

[@nicolasfrankboehmer2240]

51 kWh is available in Germany

[@PaulTC777]

would you be interested in testing an Omoda 5 ?

[@byddf]

Chery EVs are not enter Thailand yet.

[@malanga5361]

Just waiting the test you will do in Norway with 64kwh. The net capacity should be 61,7 kWh. Thanks!!

[@bjornnyland]

61.7 kWh is nominal (in a lab). Realistically I think you will get about 60 kWh after discharging losses.

[@malanga5361]

@@bjornnyland I see. thanks for the info. Ciao and enjoy your staying in Thailand

[@colla555]

Did you test the 4 Speaker system or the 6 speaker system of the top trim Luxury version?

[@chrismcardell8137]

UK gets both battery pack sizes

[@Bud_Terence]

Same in Germany. 3 Variants, 2 battery sizes (standard 51, comfort 64, luxury 64).

[@chrispack3131]

Only 51 kWh LFP battery available but the MG4 comes in 2 trim levels X & D in Thailand at the moment.

[@ademcguinness8132]

but no heat pump option in the UK, so winter will be harsh for both the 51 and 64 kWh versions

[@chrispack3131]

@@ademcguinness8132 I wonder why theres no heat pump as it gets very cold in the UK?

[@ademcguinness8132]

@@chrispack3131 Cost cutting? A heat pump is usually a £900 to £1100 option so perhaps to peg the price to undercut competition they removed it from the UK spec?

[@leeebbrell9]

22c summer in uk haha

[@KDNPARKER]

"Audio book quality" sound system?

[@Stoffe46]

Hi, i have order one in Sweden. only 64kwh Luxury in Sweden 39000 euro

[@gzcwnk]

MG's just dont seem very efficient, especially cold efficiency (from UK tests) + awful software would make this a no for me.

[@kiwijonowilson]

Bjørn, a quick question, does the MG4 (or other MGs for that matter) have remote software updates? I was wondering if the bugs are something they would fix over time (like Tesla so often does - which is big plus)?

[@iks77]

Yes they have

[@AnoopSinghRanhotra]

How did you know friction brakes were being applied alongwith regen?

[@bjornnyland]

Very sudden brake/slowdown and 0 % power (no regen).

[@GunitEngage]

Hey, Steering Assist is mandatory in EU as default. Do complain to your elected politician not SAIC. For software please do confront them 😅

[@Bud_Terence]

Is only the base version available in Thailand?🤔

[@chrispack3131]

I pick up my MG4 X tomorrow in Thailand, they come with the smaller 51 kWh but better LFP battery & comes in 2 trim levels X & D. I’m not sure if the bigger capacity MG4 will be imported here but I’d like to think it will come in the near future.

[@aadamileekennedy2754]

I love your reviews but can I pick up on something here please? You kept referring to auto-steer and it not being good or feeling nervous. The MG4 doesn’t have auto-steer; it has lane keep assist. This is only to assist when the driver is actively and fully steering the vehicle. If the driver loses concentration and strays towards the edge of the lane/road then that is the ONLY purpose of this function.

[@bjornnyland]

Same

[@tridruankham2657]

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[@estebanperez1971]

Is not illegal to Drive bare feet in Thayland?

[@bjornnyland]

*Thailand

[@byddf]

For personal cars, I think there are no law about shoes of driver. For public vehicles (taxis, buses, etc.), I think they may have.

[@Zanbatoss]

How did this car get 5 star NCAP with shit forced LKA like that 😂

[@markreed9853]

It's unfair to compare a sound system in an MG4 and any Tesla - different price range of vehicles.

[@bjornnyland]

I used Tesla as an example because there's a cheap version (SR+) vs Long Range/Performance where the stereo is better. I think you missed the point. But to make you happy: Similar priced Opel Corsa-e has way better sound system.

[@markreed9853]

@@bjornnyland I take your point but I did hear that Tesla employs some previous technicians from B&O, who I actually used to work for, so maybe an unfair advantage in Tesla's case. Saying that I do wonder if there are some settings to change the sound options to improve things as the standard ones aren't always great, I even found that in my Ford Focus. Finally say hi to my friend Karl in Bangkok, he teaches English in the big school there 😁

[@bjornnyland]

Again, it was just an example that many car stereo (not only Tesla) that doesn't have subwoofer still sounds ok and has deep-ish bass.

[@toppledgod]

The marketing frustrates me. MG (Morris Garages) was a British brand focussing on racing and sport inspired Morris cars. Now Chinese MG's profane thye MG brand by producing substandard cars under the once great MG brand. If they were just breanded Morris I think they would have received better acceptance in the UK and Europe and it would have left expansion room for MG's with sporting and/or racing credentials..

[@user-jh6vt8vx4v]

substandard interms of luxury? Workmanships? Or reliability? Sorry, MG was none of that. MG fit into a niche of affoetable fun car. It was cheapy design, build and maintain. And that is why when Japanese show up, they went flop. The MG ZX ensure there will be a tomorrow for MG, the MG5 is securing the brand present. And the MG4 is what propell what the former leyland dream to but failed to achieved.

[@0Nick0]

Problem is second hand Model 3 is better

[@vorsprungelektro]

👍🏻🔋

[@lennyvalentin6485]

Why is it that 120kph looks much faster in Thailand than it does in Norway/Sweden? :D Weird...

[@bjornnyland]

Narrower lanes

[@xbluejay]

Chinese software should be improved

[@rikkiola]

Aren't the Chinese mega-brains, super smart generally? You'd think the software would be on point. To be fair, it's very early and will probably get refined quite a bit with real world feedback

[@user-jh6vt8vx4v]

I think not. Ive been told the car is running on qnx by blackberry. Garbage tier onboard embedded os. Not much will be improved till the qnx is gone.

[@twisted_panties]

Like a Toyota driver

[@leeebbrell9]

Where is the power, how do you see how much you pressed the peddle

[@tridrean]

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