Miami Dice - Zombicide: Invader

Tom, Zee, and Sam share their thoughts on the newest installment in the Zombicide franchise, Zombicide: Invader, from CMON, Ltd.!
00:00 - Introduction
01:13 - Game overview
14:03 - Final thoughts
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[@seanbester1465]

Zombicide got me into boardgames a couple years ago, I have them all. The thing I love the most is how you can make it your own, house ruling where your group feels it needs tweaking, creating your own missions and maps, it's completely customizable and always fun.

[@xenondoro8573]

That's pretty much all CMON games which has cooled me off of their products. Their games are really pretty but there are always the same balance and rule issues due to lack of playtesting and I'm tired of having to tweak all of their games. It's their job, not mine.

[@isakjones5836]

@@xenondoro8573 kinda, if you listen to this review though they complain that black plague was too hard, my group feels like it is way too easy. It's a co-op game so it's balanced to a certain player skill point. You can't balance co-op games the same way you do normal games. My group makes house rules to make it harder, but I don't blame CMON for making it to easy because if they balanced it towards players like my group people who are new to gaming couldn't enjoy it.

[@mireah]

Energy Weapons can be used indoors or outdoors, just a little nitpick there.

[@mireah]

@Kimbra Bedient I don't bother with Instagram. And don't see the need to 'hack' or look at my hubbie's phone or other accounts. Mind you, if he did have a Instagram account it'd be full of pictures of his miniatures he's panted. The Aliens from the Zombicide: Invader look really great if I don't say so my self!!!!! Wait, that's exactly what I said :)

[@commandershepherd3467]

YES!!!!! The return of Miami Dice. I can’t watch this right now, but had to drop by and leave a comment. Keep up the great work fellas!!!

[@pirotehs]

prayers has been heard. Long time has passed since last Miami Dice episode.

[@graphkid]

First time watcher, love the intro, love the energy yall put out and nice way of explaining the game keep it up thank you guys

[@karenescamilla7832]

Finally! Miami Dice! I really like this series :D please do them more often

[@johna6108]

Now I have to get my popcorn and watch the live playthrough for this zombie name-calling.

[@FeartheMalice]

I hope you guys bring us more Miami dice in the future. I miss this type of video where I see you guys talk about a game.

[@carbondragon]

Excellent review, thanks guys!

[@ontable]

ONE of my most favorite games

[@benzrecycler]

I'm watching this, because Tom, Sam, and Zee discussing games is the heart of dice tower, kudos guys, please do more of this. I backed Massive Darkness and sold after one play, as I found the Zombicide game mechanics boring. I love dice chucking and randomness, but if a game doesn't give me an interesting decision on my turn, not a keeper. Honestly, I am a kid at heart, and I want more games with tons of miniatures, but I need more game than this.

[@Skarpo89]

Another Miami Dice 😄, it's been a long time since the last one ^^. The changes seem good, I'd definitely try it.

[@calidude9703]

Thanks for the review guys! I do prefer the sci-fi theme over fantasy. Looking forward to my kickstarter.

[@kirkwhite2318]

The KS campaign for this has ended. So will it be available to the general public eventually, or was it KS only? There was too much to click on when I searched the KS site to figure it out. Anyone know??

[@eapleitez]

It will be available at retail. There were some special Kickstarter exclusive figures, but they aren't necessary

[@emmanuelrodriguez1693]

Now that all these other zombie games have come out, which would you guys suggest? I don't have any, and I'm torn between Black Plague, Invader, and Zomicide 2nd edition. I personally like modern and xeno over medieval, but will i miss out on the best version by not getting BP? I know it's the highest rated via BGG.

[@JS_2099]

Night of the Living Dead is best for me.

[@vanzetti7]

Oh boy now I'm waiting for Miami Vice Gotham Chronicles.

[@1AngelAlita]

Whenever Mitsuki moves, her butt moves with her? Oh, OK, he means "bot".. ;)

[@forbode]

2:10 Don't the energy weapons work in any zone? The starting cattle prods are energy weapons.

[@stevecaville4577]

Yes, Energy weapons can work anywhere, Bullet weapons only work inside.

[@leewright415]

I was looking for this question.

[@ABCTraveler-ol5oj]

The best and the most kick ass version of Zombicide

[@cassandracastro2759]

Ive been meaning to buy a zombicide for a while, this one seems to be the winner.

[@ABCTraveler-ol5oj]

Way better than others. This one is awesome

[@xshadowscreamx]

Z: BP seems like the sweet spot in the series.

[@MrPeter13th]

I Would like an upgrade for the original Zombie, Ex: plastic trays with survivor cards, addition of the armor, new rules like the target priority and so on....

[@freddyperez415]

2 more days my fellow zombie hunter!

[@brunneng38]

They should’ve called it Xenocide. But I guess they wanted that name recognition.

[@Straddllw]

I didn’t back this because it wasn’t named Xenocide. Hah! That will show CMON!

[@andrewmortensen6665]

Isn't it just part of the base rules now that if a single survivor dies, it's game over?

[@brunneng38]

Andrew Mortensen correct. It’s lame.

[@isakjones5836]

@@brunneng38 they did it to get rid of player elimination. You can always house rule out for your group

[@MattCrawley_Music]

How is this game for someone totally new to zombicide games?

[@rogerx1258]

From what I can see I would recommend Black Plague if you don´t hugely prefer the sci fi theme. Less fiddly and if you really want to you can implement the conzentrated fire rule from this one. I also like the art design a little bit better in Black Plague.

[@rogerx1258]

@@ABCTraveler-ol5oj So you pledged for invader. Congratulations.

[@Skarpo89]

I feel like a part of the rules explanation is missing, either that or I spaced out while watching the video

[@hmgrraarrpffrzz9763]

Not sure how great the game will be, but I went all in anyway. I got no other zombicide games, I like miniatures and sci-fi, so... eh... It should be fun, and if not I should be able to sell the entire KS thing without too much of a los. But who knows, maybe it'll be great.

[@tuntemon]

Zombicide IN SPACE!

[@thornbush8]

do you still auto shoot your friends first ?

[@ToucanSamich]

That got dropped in black plague

[@kristijanpetrovski2576]

Galaxy Defenders is the X-Com replacement...

[@holywarriorbear7720]

I am not sure if making dispatching the big boss easier in this game is a good idea. It always created a panic and horror when those big guys showed up in the original game or in Black Plague.

[@brunneng38]

Holy Warrior Bear There are way more of them popping up in the game though. And also they’re a one hit kill if they get to you.

[@JimmySquiky]

I missed Miami dice. Nice to see it back :)

[@GrayBeardDamonsen]

and when will there be a cthullu version?

[@the1gofer]

Damonsen didn’t they release a cuthulu game not long ago?

[@MattCrawley_Music]

@@the1gofer CMON have a cthulhu game in the pipeline but it's not a zombicide

[@tristandeleglise3924]

You should take a look at Deep Madness

[@benevans7564]

When the stars come right again.

[@kenredington4988]

Got em all and have this one on the way Via Kick Starter. Out of all I preferred the Black Plague setting. Z-Cide classic got boring and had some rough spots. Think the last release was too tack on and they should have gone one more season with the military added in (vehicles, weapons, and tougher zombies). The Black Plague setting had sooo much more that could have been covered. The themes they could have covered was good for a few more years at least. By switching to the Sci Fi setting they killed all momentum for the Black Plague settings. No going back I think and this version has very limited expansion future. This may be the end of the Zombicide train ride for CMON.

[@DJeremyCharles]

Ken Redington I agree! I hope that they move back to medieval, but I have small hopes ( however with my kickstarter edition of zombicide GH I have still enough material for years :p )

[@Jeffs40K]

Damn you got another of my KSs before me

[@rogernagel1041]

What is the criteria for a review getting a Miami Dice format over a regular review?

[@Sam-vk8xd]

If they feel like it. That’s it.

[@firestrike123]

Roger Nagel generally a pretty big game with a lot of hype

[@zvonk2480]

They probably would need to all play the game. In order to play and review more games, they often don't overlap as much as they used to.

[@hanseathl]

I just sold my full pledge of green horde. Not my kind of game. To me it is too repetitive and after a couple of rounds it felt sluggish and boring. The idea seamed appealing but did not hit the table enough to stay in my collection. However, happy to see Miami Dice back.

[@ABCTraveler-ol5oj]

Hello thanks for your comments. So green horde is not good? I was trying to find a complete collection. I backed invade.

[@ProfOfHifi]

i think it's not completely pasted on, because they have reversed the play style, i guess. Now you are more like defending when the horde is coming at you. Earlier you were probably exploring more than in this version.

[@MarioAdNoman]

When you are saving to get green horde and they go and get yet another game ! I will never complete my collection..

[@thebignut5571]

I was going to get zombicide, but then went into deep depression after getting a warhammer knight.

[@xshadowscreamx]

Sell your gamesworkshop conjobs as soon as possible, you will feel better.

[@GamingMansion]

Looks great! Still prefer the fantasy theme so Black Plague for me, I don't like how the tiles look in Green Horde and the Horde mechanics in itself is not that much fun so BP for me but this is a close second :)

[@ABCTraveler-ol5oj]

Space theme sounds better than black plauge

[@xshadowscreamx]

ABC TRAVELER BP theme sounds better than zombies in space.

[@seanmay9709]

Mitsuki has a remote-controlled butt? That's what I heard.

[@ccggenius]

I went all-in on Black Plague and Green Horde, so had no desire to get this one. If I desperately needed to add a sci-fi game that bears a superficial resemblance, I would have thrown my wallet at Nemesis.

[@hmgrraarrpffrzz9763]

As both are very different, I threw my money at both.

[@ccggenius]

@@hmgrraarrpffrzz9763 But did you already own any of the other Zombicides? I completely understand where you're coming from if you do not, otherwise not so much.

[@hmgrraarrpffrzz9763]

@@ccggenius I don't own any others. I once made the mistake with an expensive game to support two only slightly different versions on KS, won't do that again. :D But if somebody is a huge fan or collector, that is a different matter of course.

[@ABCTraveler-ol5oj]

Invader is better than those two. You should have backed it. It looks great.

[@BliskMyth]

I disliked the rules in Green Horde and it seems like I will like this version.

[@DJeremyCharles]

Just to know ; what did you disliked about it ? I prefer it compare to original zombicides 😅

[@raffaelepassarelli6444]

And now they rebooted the original game.

[@robo3007]

I usually like dice combat, but this seems way too random. Rolling 5 dice and randomly getting anywhere between 0 and 5 hits just doesn't sound like fun to me.

[@Retrodaniel]

Zombicide is extremely simple tbh, it's a game for people who are newer to board games, or simply prefer lighter games.

[@isakjones5836]

It's a zombie game. You are shooting into 20 zombies sometimes. That's why they set it up like this

[@robertharvey5904]

That concentrated fire rule is a big deal. It is not a minor tweak. It up ends the entire franchise. Everything before Z:I is a puzzle game where you need to apply 1/2/3 damage weapons and/or rely on super strength (+1 dmg) characters and Molotov/Dragon bile or... you Benny Hill from Abominations. This is the first or only Zombicide where it is a combat game rather than a puzzle game. This then opens up the floodgates for the value and cinematic presence of more and different Abominations. Targeting priority and mold dovetail well into this idea. As does the focus on ranged combat again. I was looking at moving these rules back to traditional zombicide, but it won't work. You need everything (spawns, draw decks, mold, priority, etc.) tuned to the accelerated pacing of Z:I. I suspect play throughs of higher difficulty scenarios with expansion abomination/aliens thrown in will show how changed the game is now.

[@ramonosuke]

Okay a bit of a rant: Is it too much to ask CMON to include custom dice for their Zombicide games that aren't a KS exclusive? Seriously, great art and minis and boring, drab red dice, you find a cheap poker set from Wal-Mart.. And why only 6? What are you guys, FFG? Stop being so stingy, I mean a pack of 12 dice of the same size and slightly better quality(chessex) is 5 bucks on amazon. Okay, rant over, but theme here seems pretty interesting here, I love horror settings in space. But I have so much for Green Horde at this point, I'm not sure I can fit this in, and I like the zombies in medieval times theme a bit more. Still seems like another solid entry into the Zombicide universe, but I think we can take a break from Zombicide at this point. How about a big box expansion for Blood Rage, CMON?

[@get_the_lead_out]

Zombies in space - not really seeing enough changes to make me run out and invest in it. Zcide was great, BP was better, Z:I is just too much of a re-skin for me. Rather than coming out wit the same essential game, CMON needs to try something to make the existing franchises better. Perhaps coming up with a campaign system for BP that includes a scenario generator, so you have other choices rather than playing the same missions over & over. Just my opinion.

[@turks1966]

I have enough Zombicide to last me the rest of my gaming life, Invader looks great, but how much of the same game do I need? I hope other's who have avoided Zombicide in the past give it a try(especially with the Science Fiction theme), it's great fun, but for me it's a pass, I don't need more of the same, even with some rule tweeks.

[@mydemon]

I hate when the FIRST and only thing a reviewer says when explaining a board game is "here are the differences between this board and that other board game". I HATE this. I don't want to find and watch another video JUST so I can understand this one (see the Sam intro)

[@shaneannigans]

I can't see enough differences from Black Plague to be worth it. Might be good for people new to the hobby or children. For those of you looking for an amazing tactical game that's co-op and has a sci-fi theme, do yourself a favour and check out GALAXY DEFENDERS. That's the game that gets the most XCOM comparisons

[@Ederfb78]

Shane Annigans That’s a comment that I can not agree on. Me and my group are big fan of Zombicide and Coop games in general. So, I bought Galaxy Defenders and after 3 sessions, I sold it and we got back playing Zombicide. For us, the simplicity of Zombicide makes it the perfect game when we just want to have some fun and not over thinking it. I felt like Galaxy Defenders had too much fidly parts to it that completely remove that simplicity we like about Zombicide. For that reason I would never recommend playing Galaxy Defenders over Zombicide. I would recommend trying both and see which one fits your group best.

[@shaneannigans]

@@Ederfb78 Yep! Try both and go with what's best for you. I liked Zombicide at first, and can still enjoy it, but I'd personally prefer something a little more tactical now. :)

[@kristijanpetrovski2576]

@@Ederfb78 Zcide and GD are different games... Each has their own merits. BUT when talking about similarities to X-Com, Zombicide has practically no similarities.

[@ABCTraveler-ol5oj]

Invader is way better than black plauge

[@danielbaker4869]

R4

[@chrisfong8929]

The biggest problem I have with all Zombicide games is the upkeep. The zombies get to play more than I do.

[@judgewilson2410]

Chris Fong ? They get 1 turn and most of them get 1 move or attack 0_o

[@TheBrokenMeeple]

Biggest problem. It’s such a blatant cash grab that I just don’t want to play it. The exact same game just a couple rule tweaks. CMON have just lost all sense of innovation.

[@XGmastersX]

I wouldn't Say CMON lost it's innovation. It's one of their main line titles. It's Zombiecide, not some other type of game so it will play like zombiecide. That is what I would want. It's like if a star wars movie came out and it wasn't anything like star wars......... Anyway a loss of innovation would be in rising sun came out and it was like zombiecide, then there would be issues. But for now I would say let zombiecide be zombiecide, but it if you like zombiecide, if not, oh well.

[@TheBrokenMeeple]

@@XGmastersX It's already big enough though, we don't need whole base sets of it. Why not just come out with a scenario book? Cheap and cheerful. I'd rather they laid this to rest and spent their time designing something new and different.

[@samuraislyr]

The Broken Meeple they do both though? There’s a lot of other games published and developed by CMON out there. I don’t see why they can’t have a franchise that basically prints money for them as a guaranteed hit and still have other games. Eventually a zombicide wont succeed and that’s probably when CMON will retire it or redevelop it in some way. Video games do a lot of the sane thing sometimes, it’s how big companies can actually survive and keep going. Pull out some old favorites from time to time and then try some new things (especially since no one knows if a new one will succeed)

[@XGmastersX]

@@TheBrokenMeeple At the end of the day the people who would buy a scenario book would also buy a big base set. They might lose some people but in the long term this is a better business plan. I will not argue against the fact that it's a money grab, but as long as people like it I do not care. I will though say their Innovation is not lost because they do stuff like this

[@DieNische]

And they are successful with that formula.

[@OmegaDestroyer99]

Talk about a weak candidate for Miami Dice. As soon as the Kickstarter was announced, I knew it would get an 8 or 9 from the Dice Tower.

[@holywarriorbear7720]

Black Plague in IMO better than than the original game

[@jefffuller9364]

Bad addition to mediocre game

[@theforgedlarp]

Not even 3min in and you are getting rules wrong. Bad review.