Miata News - April 2024 - Are ND sales down 50%?

[@cptndave1]

My 2024 has just arrived in Sydney. Pick up next week. Let’s not forget to be grateful to Mazda for this is still all real roadster while others have come and gone or electric with I pads for instrument clusters. Thank you Mazda for keeping it a real drivers car❤

[@alex863]

You know what? The more this fake crappy articles says "bad things" about the miata, the more I love this car, in fact I'm gonna buy one this year.

[@MiataChannel]

Yeah, these articles just tell me that whoever is writing this stuff just doesn't get the Miata. And I'm with you, they won't change my mind. My Miatas have been the most fun and most reliable cars I have ever owned.

[@cptndave1]

I totally agree I’ll be picking mine up next weekend.

[@aguscmzz]

I willl have mine in 15 days or less :D It is time to enjoy !

[@cptndave1]

@@aguscmzz congrats. Looking forward to it. Too much fun for a little car

[@goodboi1232]

Same here, planning on ordering one this summer!

[@jasondixon9095]

Miata is always the answer

[@MiataChannel]

I always say: "If Miata isn't the answer, you're asking the wrong questions."

[@jasondixon9095]

@@MiataChannel I agree that’s why I said it mx5 fun car

[@aguscmzz]

@@MiataChannel jajajaja

[@DrDiplMed]

Great channel, thanks! Dismissing what needs to be dismissed and moving on is always a good idea. In the meantime, my 24 Club goes into production next week or so, according to my dealer.

[@MiataChannel]

Cool! Hope you don't have to wait too long

[@RISCGames]

That news article.... there's no comparing the Miata to the other 3, they don't come close to the same premium design that the MX5 has, period. It's been in my radar for a little while now and hopefully next year I can pick one up as my secondary weekend driver.

[@ag4allgood]

Nice Zeke ! Good to see somebody putting the real Miata Sales numbers into perspective ! I saw a couple of new KZbin videos on the 2024 MX-5s that owners made. Not real in depth more of them driving & having fun. Still thinking on a 2024 upgrade or just stick with my 2016 Club soft top. Definitely a sticker shock from when I bought in the 1st week of March 2017. That was the week the RFs came out & of course many people wanted those as they were coming off the transport trucks already sold !

[@georgekappland2935]

I've been saying the same thing on sales, so thanks man. They're late to come out which does affect numbers. I'd also point out in the Edmunds video all the cars were 24s except the MX-5 which is a 23... Hey, I'm an old gen X'er & DD a 22RF. Rolled up 10k on it last year. In a week or so I'll take delivery on a 24 and can't wait to get my hands on it. Thanks for the videos!

[@guyver650]

Since the 24 are coming picked up a 23 GT at 0.9 financing through Mazda and 1000 off with eligible discounts. Had Clubs previously and I will have to say absolutely love the touring extras especially the auto dimming rear view and drivers side mirror.

[@MiataChannel]

Yeah, my friend Elicia from some of the earlier videos just traded her Soul Red 2017 RF GT off for a Crystal White 2023 RF Club Brembo/Recaro. There are some deals out there.

[@rembo183]

The new screen was a bit larger but no better rear view camera look. Console a fraction larger. No comments on lighting change. It made me happier to keep my 2023 GT RF!😊

[@MiataChannel]

Yeah, I would agree that if you already have a 2023 it's not much of an upgrade to a 2024. I am curious about the new differential and track mode on the traction control though. Unfortunately, my channel does not make enough money to put one through the kind of test I would like to do LOL.

[@rembo183]

@@MiataChannel - I guess if you were an expert on tracking and could compare old and new Club models you might be able to tell. Otherwise as an amateur driver who just has fun on backroads it’s impossible to say the 2024 Miata better than the old model. Definitely not worth paying much more money. I would recommend buying one from 2019 -2023 and save some money for a smoother ride in my opinion. I don’t feel any real difference in the steering or ride that would justify buying a new one.(Unless you want a new model.)

[@wackit6756]

Enjoy your channel so much. Do you have any intel on when the next generation will be out? Does the '24' refresh tell us that we are going to wait many more years? 💁‍♂️

[@MiataChannel]

No official word from Mazda, but rumor has it that it will be coming in 2026. Ten years seems to be the sweet spot for a new Miata. It's supposed to be electrified by 2030, but I am strongly in the camp that the next Miata will not be a EV, but rather a mild hybrid.

[@rembo183]

I just drove a New 24 Miata GTRF. My goal was to compare it with my 23 to see if the new one changed the driving dynamics. Well after a short drive I think the steering was a bit heavier and the suspension was a bit stiffer feeling- more road feeling. Not much difference but I’m curious as to what other Miata experts think? Absolutely nothing to justify a trade!😊

[@MiataChannel]

I'm going to try to get a drive in one, but the dealers around me aren't real keen on letting you drive them if you aren't buying. I'd really like to do the same thing I did with the 2022s and take one on a Miata drive with the club. I really want to take one down into Oregon and drive on some of those roads.

[@rembo183]

@@MiataChannel - Yes good luck!

[@rembo183]

@@MiataChannel - After a while… crocodile!😊👍🏻😎

[@wny9521]

I just bought a new 2023 Miata in January with the .09 percent for 36 months incentive. Really enjoying the Miata. The 2024's will sell well if they continue to offer the low rate.

[@MiataChannel]

Makes me wish I hadn't just dumped a bunch of money into my NC. I might have taken advantage of that. I think I am gonna wait to see if they offer any special editions to round out the ND run.

[@matthewhenderson5070]

I’m going to buy an ND3 if the next Miata goes hybrid or EV or anything else that gets away from the light weight formula. But I’m having a hard time deciding on a color combination. Mazda sure is making it difficult. Someone in the design department needs to turn back the clock and look at some of the colors offered twenty years ago.

[@le0redd104]

Sometimes the only option left is to do it ourselves unfortunately so... wrap that little thing up your way! Or repaint it entirely lol

[@MiataChannel]

Personally, I will bet good money that an EV is not in the immediate future of the Miata. Hybrid could be a possibility. I am waiting to see if the NC loses the "boat" title when it comes out. But yes, I agree on the lack of colors... current selection is atrocious. Its part of Mazda's push to go more "upscale".. and while these colors work for SUVs they really suck for fun cars. I'm kinda keeping my ear to the ground, but I may considering getting one of the next gen cars in the future.

[@matthewhenderson5070]

That’s my thought. I may buy a white GT with tan interior and wrap it in British Racing Green. Make it an updated version of my ‘01 SE.

[@MiataChannel]

@@matthewhenderson5070 I keep joking about buying a Zircon Sand car and wrapping it in the most obnoxious color I can find LOL

[@richardsims3847]

Agree that shades of white and grey are boring but for an old guy like me red too shouty.Getting a non colour,black.Their new black no longer a mica finish.

[@paker51]

Give me a break! I'm 74 and daily drive my 2023 RF 6 speed manual and yes I still work a 40 hour week.

[@MiataChannel]

I daily my NC, but I'm not planning to work much past 65, unless I'm still doing KZbin then.

[@ag4allgood]

I retired in 2022 & feel great about it. The company I worked for 9 years were making you time in / time out for each project - I had up to 4 or 5 daily. Meetings everyday discussing the project updates. The Bean counters had taken over in Micro Managing every facet of the Business. Plus it was a Charles Koch company & in order to get ANY raises you needed to out perform in the whole group - my last 2 years no raises despite the inflation. Pitting employees against each other - just BAD Management made me leave. Turnover there was very high. I stayed because it was very close to home & liked the actual work.

[@timothycoyne5874]

Yes, it’s hard to get in and out of a Miata. But it’s so worth it! I dailied an ND1 for over 4 years, and I’ll probably buy another one within the next year.

[@MiataChannel]

I have been dailying a Miata since 2015. I work from home now, but I still drive it 10k miles a year. I don't really want to drive anything else.

[@michaelm7864]

I put comp lowering springs etc etc and I now find it much more exciting to get in !!

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

Mazda is SUPER Reliable ……SUPER RELIABLE ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@dystopia-usa]

The only MX-5s for sale for first quarter of 2024 were the leftover model-year 2023 MX-5's, so yeah sales were probably down. The refreshed/updated 2024 model just started hitting the lots recently in limited numbers.

[@MiataChannel]

Last year, the 2023 models started arriving in January, and the dealers were fairly well stocked by this time of the year. We didn't even get the configurator information until February, and we usually get that in December. They are about 2 months behind on everything for 2024... so it's no surprise to me they aren't selling as many as last year.

[@claudiu7219]

Miata is getting too expensive. Top trim for over 40k EUR is a lot, when for 60k EUR you can get a base Porsche 718. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car, and I love it, but it's no 718.

[@MiataChannel]

It's actually a better deal now than it was in 1990. It's also not trying to be a Porsche. It's trying to be a Miata... and for 150% of the price of a Miata, a Porsche better be an upgrade.

[@claudiu7219]

@@MiataChannel I never drove a 718, but most people who drove both do seem to think there's enough of an upgrade for the money. On the other hand, 718 definitely comes with a significantly higher maintenance cost too.

[@MiataChannel]

@claudiu7219 My friend Adam, who owns the 2003 Project Ron NB, a 2020 ND Club soft top, and a 2002 SE NB also owns a 718 Boxster 4.0. He was the person I mentioned who couldn't decide between a ND2 and a 718, so he bought both. We are planning on doing some comparisons between all of the above.

[@claudiu7219]

@@MiataChannel Looking forward to seeing it! :)

[@edujourneyaspirasi2775]

Question: 1) 30th Anniversary 1.5 litre has LSD? 2) Can kindly enlighten which ND2 1.5 litre has LSD, if at all? Thank you so much

[@MiataChannel]

I don't really have access to extensive information in markets outside the United States... however the things that I do know about the 30th... (1) The 30AE was only offered with a 1.5L in the Japanese market, everywhere else it got the 2.0L engine. (2) All 2.0L 30AE manual transmission cars get a LSD, automatics do not. (3) As far as I know, 1.5L cars do not get a LSD.

[@edujourneyaspirasi2775]

@@MiataChannel Thank you. That is unfortunate. I am looking for 1.5l with LSD

[@MiataChannel]

@@edujourneyaspirasi2775 You could always do like I did with my 2016 GT... it did not come with a LSD, so I just bought the entire assembly and swapped it out.

[@Ermy1996]

@@edujourneyaspirasi2775 In italy the nd2 1.5L does NOT have the lsd

[@MiataChannel]

1.5L doesn't get it anywhere. US market does not get the 1.5L tho

[@davidpetta7873]

Will there be a 35th anniversary model? 😮

[@MiataChannel]

Nothing has been announced as of today.

[@gimmicorvaro1291]

In Italy it’s not possible to order 2.0 engine. Since half march. 😓

[@Ermy1996]

Why? The configurator says you can

[@gimmicorvaro1291]

I don’have an official answer. Three ours after my order, Mazda cancelled it. it should be for emission and they can not imported more cars.

[@Ermy1996]

@@gimmicorvaro1291 well that sucks. Glad i got mine in time, it is a sweet car :/

[@gimmicorvaro1291]

@@Ermy1996only some stock’s cars are avalaible and after some checks with mazda Italy i’ve taken a one avalaible (but in different color). In all Europe will not possible to order the 2.0 engine. Only 1.5.

[@Ermy1996]

@@gimmicorvaro1291 enjoy your mx5 is great. See you on the road

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

Sales ON ALL MODELS B4 Major redesign change over is expected , NOTHING NEW . The anticipation of “NE “

[@rtygrest]

Inventory, where is it? Sport specifically….

[@MiataChannel]

I have not seen any Sports in the listings I have seen so far, they tend to be a lot more rare than the other trim levels.

[@toshitanaka1550]

They chose the Elantra because of “practicality and it was cheap with more horsepower.” Anything I learn about Korean cars is they have awful maintenance. Hyundai and Kia have to get Mitsubishi engines since the ones they made were so bad with so many unsatisfied customers they couldn’t keep up with their cars. Parts of their quality may or may not have improved, but that is what these guys are saying if you want the bang for your buck get a Korean econobox. I would get a GR86 or BRZ over that car. Miatas have proven their worth over the years despite some minor hiccups and they’ve been showing their reliability to be consistent.

[@davidhoppe1757]

Sales are down ?? They just started showing up in America ?? Can't sell them if there not here .

[@MiataChannel]

Yeah, and last year in the first quarter, there were 2023s selling... they started arriving in January- February.. so it's really an unfair comparison

[@davidhoppe1757]

Also sales will be down waiting to see what changes will be made to the 2025 model

[@MiataChannel]

@@davidhoppe1757 I would expect there to be little to no changes between 2024 and 2025.

[@davidhoppe1757]

All the you tube I've been seeing they say 2025 will be all new design . probably fake news.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

I won't be buying a Miata until a British Racing Green with Tan Interior is available and they fix the stupid hump on the passenger side floor.

[@MiataChannel]

Given Mazda's history, I would say you will be waiting a long time. I predict 100 more shades of grey, white, and beige before that happens.

[@yr612p]

Love the accurate news coverage! However, I think it’s a bit unnecessary to use so many AI-generated images for the slides. It’s also quite damaging to independent artists because their artwork is used without their consent to create the generative AI models for things like DALL-E. Just wanted to put it out there, keep up the great work otherwise!

[@MiataChannel]

I just use it so you have something to look at besides my goofy mug. If I was better at making art, or had the funds to hire someone to do the editing, I would probably not use it.

[@yr612p]

@@MiataChannel makes sense, I think it would both be funnier and more ethical even to just use stock images with watermarks or memes from twitter or facebook (with credit), but you do you man

[@em6855]

2024 Miata, $39.9-42+K in Ontario Canada

[@MiataChannel]

Yeah, I only cover the US market as of right now. Maybe one day when its not just me.

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

Thank you for your Service 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 Go Navy ! 20 yr ret Vet here ! With a MX5 , I love to send a photo of my car to you , you got a email ?

[@MiataChannel]

Thanks... 8 years for me, got out as a AT2 a long time ago. My email address is in the description of every video: [e-mail]

[@MouseCIick]

For a car that supposed to be a total loss for the company. i surprisingly see a lot of ND on the road.

[@MiataChannel]

I am not sure why you believe Mazda loses money on the Miata.

[@FJB8646]

I’m perfectly content staying in my NC3.

[@MiataChannel]

I am planning on keeping mine, but depending on how the channel grows in the next couple of years, I might opt to be an early adopter of the next generation. Will probably keep my NC tho.