Micaiah is actually a GREAT unit

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@ENEMii-IRL
@ENEMii-IRL 10 ай бұрын
3:12 GOLDEN SEER SPOTTED
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
SOOOOOLD TO ENEMIII!!!!
@opalyasu7159
@opalyasu7159 6 ай бұрын
When I first played Radiant Dawn, Micaiah ended up with 17 speed, but thankfully, she kept getting at least 24 speed in my later play throughs. Maybe she could see my disappointment and it stuck with her 😂
@kakalukio
@kakalukio 10 ай бұрын
The biggest issue she seems to have is that the dawn brigade in general is just kinda bad and is already heavy on squishy characters. You desperatly want a lord that can actually take a hit, like Ike, but you get micaiah. Then there's the fact that magic just isn't great in the Telius games, which further hamstrings her. And the fact that initially her healing is limited to a gimmick instead of just giving her staves immeadiatly, which means that even as a healer she isn't exactly amazing. Overal this makes her feel awkward and weaker than she really is. Especially early on.
@PikangsFutaba
@PikangsFutaba 10 ай бұрын
Awkward indeed, but if you know your moves, you can take advantage of that gimmick to not only feed her some healing exp, but also have an easy way to give Laura levels as well, in the only hard mode run I did, I did some weird moves like taking Edward's Wrath into Michaiah to have easy 50% critical hit chance while doing Sacrifice strategies and almost all the time (that obviously depends on how you feel with your luck) had a critical hit to nuke enemies with ease, it helped me a lot that I kinda found my way to make magic decent enough or useful with just the basic tomes overall (yes, even on hard mode I rarely needed to use high level magic to deal enough damage to the enemies in the long run), it can also help that if a unit is close to level up and has some max stats that you feed bonus exp for the level up and have a guaranteed 3 stats up, that way you have better odds at getting a stat that a unit rarely gets overall, or just avoid getting a blank or 1 to 2 stats up in a normal level up if you really need stats.
@opalyasu7159
@opalyasu7159 6 ай бұрын
Even without using blessed purge tomes or any crazy strategies, she turned out pretty well for me too
@HanakkoLove
@HanakkoLove 10 ай бұрын
Idk why people think a healer lord is bad
@ZX-Gear
@ZX-Gear 10 ай бұрын
Ironman Run Death if I were to guess.
@DanielFlores-fv3vr
@DanielFlores-fv3vr 10 ай бұрын
She isn't a real healer. It would've been better if she could use staves from the start instead of gimmick story skill. Sacrifice isn't even that important storywise
@HanakkoLove
@HanakkoLove 10 ай бұрын
@@DanielFlores-fv3vr and why does "storywise" matter for a gameplay discussion? Lol. She heals just fine and can use it to her advantage to get nice exp, and then when she promotes she can fully heal allies due to her big magic stat.
@ZX-Gear
@ZX-Gear 10 ай бұрын
@DanielFlores-fv3vr Michaiah is your only Healer till Laura and gets staves on promotion to keep up.
@DanielFlores-fv3vr
@DanielFlores-fv3vr 10 ай бұрын
I'm saying that if Sacrifice as a skill isn't even important storywise then why even add it in the first place. Micaiah could've been much better as a level 1 lord who can use staves. That would've been unique and very helpful instead of Sacrifice.
@bobowon5450
@bobowon5450 10 ай бұрын
Micaiah conceptually isn't that bad but there are very few chapters where she feels legitimately usable in part 1, she can snipe the odd horse or armor but shes mostly used as a bad healer. She can't survive a round with basically anything, and her story promotes aren't at very good spots either. Its hard to train her for tower because she promotes when you get there. She wouldn't be too bad if you could juice her up faster but being restricted in her promotes and having aggressively low base stats on top of being a mage in a game where magic is bad. Shes basically just a staff user who isn't as good as mist or elincia
@Donlot_
@Donlot_ 10 ай бұрын
100% agreed on this. Miccy is squishy but an absolute powerhouse if used correctly.
@Buznik_
@Buznik_ 10 ай бұрын
"So we got this lord who can heal; hit at 1-2 range; and can melt armor and cav which includes most of her bosses" "But can she beat Goku though?" Honestly I think the biggest thing convincing people Micaiah is bad is just being in the same game as Final Form Ike in all his glory. Of course the other lords look frail when you compare them to a man who can walk face-first through a building like Kenshiro in Fist of the North Star.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
100%, it’s almost unfair to compare things to Ike in this game ahahaha, absolutely busted trivializing almost every combat.
@Linklegacy77
@Linklegacy77 10 ай бұрын
Nobody reasonable argues that Micaiah doesn't have any utility. Nobody reasonable says she's useless and can't contribute. They are simply comparing her to other good units in the game, and she falls substantially short when compared to other units. And I don't think she comes remotely close to being one of the strongest lords in Fire Emblem history. Other lords (like Ike in this very same game) outshine her trivially.
@bobowon5450
@bobowon5450 10 ай бұрын
Micaiahs only real utility is as an end game staff unit. but unfortunately she shares a game with Mist and Elincia who are objectively better staff units
@Linklegacy77
@Linklegacy77 10 ай бұрын
@@bobowon5450 She's forced deploy in the tower so you might as well use her staff utility there. She also has some utility in part 1, taking out armor and cavalry with her preferred weapon. She can definitely contribute on the two Dawn Brigade maps in part 3 as well. But yeah, she's a below average unit in this game. It doesnt' help that this game isn't particularly caster friendly (casters kind of suck in general in this entry compared to non-casters), and she's hardly as powerful a unit as Soren. And yes, Elincia makes her look absolutely garbage in comparison.
@allan4172
@allan4172 10 ай бұрын
I've never hated miciah, but using the purge argument for endgame is pretty weak. Sure it's good for the dragon chapter but the last 2 chapters enemies have insane resistance, she will much more likely be a staff bot. She really only can be a purge nuke for 1 chapter. On the plus side, another point for miciah is 4-p where literally 90% of enemies are weak to Thani and its perfect for training her pre-tower
@inconemay1441
@inconemay1441 10 ай бұрын
Not many fancy staves to use in RD. The fact that she didnt get a final weapon indicates how the devs at the time had no trust in her ability while Elincia and Sanaki fill her role better. Funnily enough, Engage straight up makes her the Goddess of Staves, while Heroes doubles down on her Thani weapon, with Sacrifice being the worst thing about her since it doesn't synergize with the rest of her anything.
@declanmcsherry9368
@declanmcsherry9368 10 ай бұрын
Did my first playthrough of hard on this game not too long ago and for part 1 I basically just had her sacrifice and then Laura heal her almost every turn and I was able to get her to level 20 easily without putting her in almost any danger, just fed her a few easy kills as I went. She was maxed leveled before the black knight fight, and she could actually fight some of the enemies there. Highly recommend using this strategy to feed her some extra exp in part 1
@PikangsFutaba
@PikangsFutaba 10 ай бұрын
Yup, it works like a charm, also in my case when I played kinda like whatever I wanted to do, I took Edward's Wrath and put it into Michaiah and she was a killing machine when I needed her the most, as I used the Sacrifice strategy to leave her at low HP on purpose and then used her to attack (like 1 out of 14 times I didn't get a critical hit, and I think that says a lot of my luck in that regard), heck, I had Laura at the 2nd tier class (i think like level 5?) by the time I did the map with the final battle gainst Jarod at part 1 endgame.
@EmrysTaichou
@EmrysTaichou 10 ай бұрын
My main problem with Maciah is her speed. She'll be level 20 with 10 speed😂😂😂. A minor issue for me is that, Thani is too good. No need to use any other tome for majority of the game. For Lord's prf weapons, usually you want to save uses for the right foes so you use other weapons for combat. [I know she isn't a true combat unit.] Thani just has no downside. 40 uses, high might, 100 hit and you get 2wexp everytime you use it.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
And to top it off you get a SECOND ONE later on. They really wanted her to be useful ahahhaha
@GeaForce
@GeaForce 10 ай бұрын
Micaiah it's not a bad unit, it's Radiant Dawn progression that is a mess. In any other game like Thracia or Sacred Stones she would have melted the competition
@rooklordofmagic
@rooklordofmagic 10 ай бұрын
My biggest issue with her is thay Sothe is a terrible unit to be glued to for support. Hes completely unacceptable as a unit past part 1.
@inconemay1441
@inconemay1441 10 ай бұрын
Idk why plot important characters have to be useless thieves either.
@ness6099
@ness6099 10 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t go so far as to say she’s one of the strongest lords in FE history, I’d put her closer to the middle of the pack. If you plopped her into FE6 then I’d say she’d be pretty damn good, since she has effective magic damage with high accuracy, basically if Lilina didn’t even care about not doubling and with extra utility. It’s a shame that she’s a magic lord in Tellius, probably the worst pair of games to be a magic unit in due to the combination of such high res on enemy units and so many enemy units to deal with, basically Genealogy numbers on maps 1/8th the size sometimes. She has a job in RD and fills it as well as anyone can be expected to, but to be one of the best lords you have to beat a lot of competition. Even if she does more than any of the GBA Lords, all but one Marth, Leif, and FE9 Ike, she still has to compete with beasts like FE1 Marth who is basically the only unit who matters in his game, Alm/Celica who carry the scrubs until they can do anything themselves, RD Ike who dominates combat from the first turn he joins and now has 1-2 range, all the modern “lords” (even without Fates siblings that’s Robin, Chrom, Corrin, Byleth, and each of the 3H lords, all of which are simpler and relatively stronger than what Micaiah provides, though I am willing to put Alear near her since they’re both more about utility than outright combat prowess), and of course Sigurd who has had every year since 96 to shine as the best unit ever. Being worse than any of those ridiculous units above doesn’t make you a bad unit, and I think Micaiah has some great tools, including some you didn’t mention like yoinking Edward’s Wrath so you can sacrifice to safely lower hp then nuke something the next turn or even safely Nosferatu tank provided she doesn’t get one-shot (I don’t remember if she has enough space for wrath and resolve, but even one of them help out a ton with that strat). A lot of the time though she’s the support. Sometimes that support can really help how you change a map, and other times that means keeping a wall of units alive to protect her while Jill goes and does all the work. I’d say she’s more the thankless hero, exactly the type of role she’d want to play.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
This is a solid take! I do believe she's a little better than a couple of people you mentioned (and I don't consider the avatars to be lords, I think they're in a category of their own). But like you said, being worse than some ridiculous units is not a bad thing to be, I do however believe that she gets pretty much crapped on when in reality she IS better than other lords that people tend to say are better than her. Even the utility alone is enough to put her uniqueness well and beyond what a lot of the other units in the game can contribute. And again, losing out to RD Ike, FE1 Marth, Alm and Celica and Sigurd, doesn't that put you as one of the strongest ones? The list is higher below than above for her, IMO, but I totally see where you're coming from. Sometimes I embellish some statements a bit too. Obviously the video wouldn't have the same impact if I had said: "One of the most upper mid lords of all time". HAHAHAHAHHAHAH! so bear with me and the creative license a bit. But I totally agree with what you're saying.
@perrycarters3113
@perrycarters3113 10 ай бұрын
Sadly, Micaiah is limited by her fairly limited Speed stat, hampered by the weight of the better Light tomes and her VERY late 3rd tier promotion. What she really needed was a legendary Prf-ranked Light tome just for her rather than Rexaura, ideally one she gains at the start of Part 4, or an improved version of Thani. She's very, VERY good at sniping generals and cavalry and tanking hits from other magic users, and if you can get her a Physic staff she's one of the most reliable healers in the game with her insane Magic stat. Sacrifice should also heal 2x as much as it hurts her to use rather than 1:1. Her hp pool is so limited, a Heal staff is infinitely better and safer. That said, it is entirely possible to have Micaiah absolutely dumpster most enemies in the Tower if you use your BEXP intelligently and dump it into her once her high-growth stats are maxed out already. It's very possible to max out all of her stats almost as soon as she promotes with just a couple more BEXP levels, almost turning her into a tome-wielding Ike. Sadly, most enemies in the final few chapters have sky-high Res, so she's still probably not dueling many bosses, but she can easily become more than competent. And also, ideally, make Sothe promote normally and have Micaiah promote when Sothe does in the story.
@shadownite3378
@shadownite3378 10 ай бұрын
She's pretty awful in regards to an ironman run, which is how I tend to rank units. I think in the context of a more casual play through and even an ltc run she's not as bad. My issue with Miciah honestly is just how insanely frail she is. If there was more leeway to making mistakes with her I wouldn't rank her as low as I do, but all it takes is one mistake and that can be your entire run
@zeldaM335
@zeldaM335 10 ай бұрын
Recently played hard mode in such a long time and she’s very average in the early game. Until you give her the seraph robe, she is going to be need to be babysit. Even after the seraph robe she still may need to as two hits will kill her and some enemies will easily double her especially if you don’t get lucky with her below average speed growth. Her being a sacrifice bot is kind of useless once you get laura. If you actually have her staff usages pre promote she would be more useful. Once she promotes and she gets to use staves she barely uses sacrifice anymore unless it is to gain exp alongside laura when there’s only one unit damaged. The argument just play better doesn’t mean much. If she is unable to front line tank like ike and other more bulkier lords, then she is literally out of one option of usage. She is only decent because a lot of the dawn brigade sucks ass. Put her into the greil mercs and she becomes a rhys or mist with a lose condition attached to it. She is not good. She is only mediocre because she’s in the dawn brigade.
@davidk2023
@davidk2023 8 ай бұрын
By that logic I can say ike sucks. He is only good because the greil mercenaries suck. Look at my sigurd. Look at my robin soloing lunatic awakening. Look at my Kris one rounding wyverns. Look at my tibarn flying around soloing maps. You judge the characters by their performance in their chapters compared to other characters in their chapters, not characters you wish you had.
@gabrielclamens3151
@gabrielclamens3151 10 ай бұрын
Holy shit, this video is literally "Micaiah for dummies" and it's perfect ! I honestly don't have much to add about it, you really said everything, but i'll still nitpick if you don't mind... First, the BK map kinda feels like it's made so Miccy can get exp, particularly as you get Paragon a few maps ago, and only her can really make use of it... Concerning her promotion, while the first one is fine, I feel the second one comes in a little late...that, and I find it surprisingly hard to make her reach level 20/20 before promo, but maybe I under used her ? Concerning discipline, well, while weapons can give rather high wexp, some units just start with really low ranks...like Brom has E swords without transfer bruh, and it's nice to make Aran reach C spears early on at least...but then yeah, she can take it, Laura already farmed a lot herself before ! About Miccy in general, I don't know if she is among the "strongest" lords, but she is definitely great at her job, healing and nuking, she's generally not fast enough to double, but on the flip side, sh'll one shot, or deal huge damage, just a shame there's like...3 dark mages, and not even on her route lmao, but it's really no big deal, she's so thicc, all magic wil bounce of her, even with weapon triangle disadvantage (and Purge, as you said...just ike in PoR, that thing is busted lmao) But I can get why newer players hate her, and I used to be part of it. Her frailty really is what makes her hard to use if you're not careful or doing risky manuvers. Archers will murder Miccy early on, and Sacrifice can be hard to use but it's a nice skill, and it goes very well with the auto healing from staves (a shame they removed that and their stat boost tho, that was a neat idea...) So yeah, mucho texto, but great vid, gotta love thani bomb lady ! (also, why did Gullveig show up in 3:12 ?)
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
Love the love and agree with most of what you said! I do really prefer discipline on the mage because the stronger tomes are what make them more viable IMO, but it’s personal preference! Gullveig appearing in my videos is just a random thing I do. She appears randomly, at random times in random videos. I always note which one she can be in, so don’t go looking if there’s no hint. Buts it’s just a quirky thing I do for my vids!!
@gabrielclamens3151
@gabrielclamens3151 10 ай бұрын
@@FireEmbrosI see, maybe mages aren't that bad after all in RD ! I'll try considering it if I ever play it again, just a shame Lyre can't equip discipline...I guess you can't make cats disciplined x) and I see, well, neat private joke ! I'll go for the hun of Gullveigs lmao
@chansey2707
@chansey2707 10 ай бұрын
I love making her a dodge tank with her crazy luck and sothe a support. Maybe not viable but support fun
@subbie-eye
@subbie-eye 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! If you asked me when I was more inexperienced, I would not have seen this point of view or thought it would be being too favourable to Micaiah. But now that I am taking on more Ironman runs, your use cases for Micaiah does make her more valuable. For me, I frame it this way (after a lot of thinking): I agree that she is best treated as a healer who happens to know Light magic, not as your frontline unit. She does not have the stats for that, and if you don't respect her healing role, you will get rekt, hard. I suspect that most people, based on in game-branding, see her as a Light mage first and a healer second and that is where the problems begin. (If you see anyone as a mage, you will use them to fight, which can go wrong very quickly). And I believe that 3-13 should have given the biggest hint that she is better as a healer. On Sacrifice, it is actually a lot more useful than given credit for. It means your combat units don't waste a turn on a healing item if done safely away from enemy combat (so player phase utility rather than only enemy phase utility). This is on top of her combat, and she gets good xp from it and a constant "heal" before you get Laura. (So she has a role, just not one most of us thought of.) Even with Laura, Micaiah having the other roles you mentioned gives her good flexibility. Not enormous flexibility, but good enough to see her being useful until she kicks off with Thani. On combat, I agree Thani rekts cavs and armor knights super hard, but I did find it useful vs other physical units too. It means that Micaiah has more usefulness on player phase, although it still does not correct her enemy phase weaknesses. (You do that by keeping her far from the frontlines, perfect for your siege tome strategy, just watch out for reinforcements.) On the bright side, for slower classes like hers, my expectation is to avoid being doubled by most units (except bosses and speedier classes), and she does that fine. Lastly, this is probably the most important point that holds your video together. Micaiah is your main lord for the chapters you do have her (i.e. force deployed), as the main lord, to recap earlier videos, any investment in her is considered a good investment. So you will have to find some use for her or grow her, you may even need to give her some level of favoritism (boss kills, stat boosters, you name it, because I could have easily given it to another Dawn Brigade member). Now generally I don't rate units well if I have to give heavy levels of favoritism (because poor resource management), but given Micaiah's toolkit and her force deployment, I think she gives a good return based on what she already does and more. It might be painful to do at times, especially if you are ironmanning. As a whole, she is great at what she does if you manage expectations right, but let's remember that you have to baby her a lot to get her to a semi-good state. She won't be the best unit you will get for about the whole game, but at least if you invest in her, it won't be like the Roy or the Lyn where you aim to just make them not die or use them for a few situations and that's it. As a support unit, I think she does her job well if you take proper care of her ,and yourself.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
This was a lit write up! I agree on many points and indeed, micaiah is severely underrated! She also has a pretty cool gimmick (I didn’t bring it up in the video but it exists) of using sacrifice to lower her HP to a range where she activates resolve and now can double a whole new plethora of enemies. She just has lots of ways to activate, some of them aren’t very intuitive however.
@subbie-eye
@subbie-eye 10 ай бұрын
@@FireEmbros Sacrifice-Resolve is an interesting gimmick, but the Resolve part puts her into a combat position, with its own risks. (Avoiding healing Micaiah or committing a heron to give her an extra turn, both of which can risk losing a unit or giving a Game Over.) I think both of us are familiar with the idea to not commit to an plan unless we are certain it will work. In this case, I would say that Sacrifice-Resolve would work better on her in Part 4 and 5 (especially when she gets to use her Siege tome unlimited), where you get more room for error on her HP and stats, even with the souped up enemies. But outside of that, I do think she makes good use of Paragon if you are deliberate in how you use her. If I can staff grind with Clerics, then Micaiah is an army xp multiplier waiting to happen. This requires a bit more planning, but it is not as intuitive. I should give it a try on my next run.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
@@subbie-eye yeah i don’t particularly do the resolve sacrifice, it’s just that it’s an OPTION for those who complain about her combat. I personally prefer the paragon staff leveling instead. I find it more consistent and allows her to get levels and then 1 shot enemies if needed.
@subbie-eye
@subbie-eye 10 ай бұрын
@@FireEmbros Ahh I see you also love the staff grind. Makes for two of us. The rest of the Brigade can face the armies and let both Lauran and Micaiah do their staffing duties.
@hadoukenfighter
@hadoukenfighter 10 ай бұрын
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THOSE IN THE BACK! I've been a diehard Micaiah simp since when this game came out and yeah she isn't the best ever, she has a ton of nice things about her that other lords (and units in her own game) don't have. I swear so many times I've seen the "Wow I can't believe I put a squishy mage in the range of physical enemies and she died, this must be the game designer's fault!" unironically spoken over the years and still to this day. Another thing that didn't get touched in this video is that due to RD's wonky speed caps for classes, she's the ONLY Mage in the game that could reach the speed cap needed to double everything that needs to be doubled/avoid being doubled that isn't named Lehran
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, people like to meme her speed a lot, but I've never really found it to be an issue for 2 reasons: Either she one shots and kills, or she's not fighting whatever it is. She also definitely DENIES doubles a lot more. But her frailness is a point against her I will say. I think she gets a bad rep, but in reality has many more redeeming qualities than bad ones.
@Corrico95
@Corrico95 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agreed! Once you learn Micaiah’s potential and what she can do, she’s a monster of a unit! I love using Micaiah!
@davidk2023
@davidk2023 8 ай бұрын
I blame FE7 where people just put pent on a fort and just go have a cup of coffee while he destroys everything during enemy phase. People have no idea how to play player phase centric FEs. Miciaiah is great imo and is what a mage/healer actually should be, a squishy nuke that needs to be protected.
@manolito.7zip
@manolito.7zip 10 ай бұрын
I mean I've always thought Micaiah is bad BECAUSE she's a staff bot, probably the best dedicated staffer in the game but that's not worth much in RD magic units and dedicated staffers are really screwed by the context of RD and THAT'S why Micaiah is bad (not as bad as PoR Ike tho)
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
But what about the fact that she can 1 shot basically all of the actual threatening enemies in part 1 (at roughly lvl 10),which is something no member of the dawn brigade can actually do? Or how she has access to a free restore in her personal? Or about the combination of resolve with sacrifice allowing her to reach higher thresholds to double more infantry units? I think there’s way more than just staffbot on Micaiahs list, and I brought them up In the video, how do you feel those things hold up and that are indeed unique to her?
@ArchSageDragonlord
@ArchSageDragonlord 10 ай бұрын
Radiant Dawn is my favourite game of all time and I've beaten it well over a dozen times. I tend to play on normal difficulty, I've beaten the game on hard exactly once and I don't do playthroughs focused on low turn count and admittedly don't even know what an ironman playthrough is. That being said, I do do themed playthroughs or challenge runs which have given me a great amount of variety. From bringing 10 laguz to the tower to bringing every mage, to bringing the entire Dawn Brigade to the end, to bringing every Greil Mercenary, to beating the game with every A rank support fulfilled that ends in a marriage, to beating the game without spending any gold to beating the game with only the units that are mandatory to deploy for each chapter (of note with that last one, there were only 2 chapters I couldn't finish and those were Rebirth 5 and River Crossing). My point here is I've played the game a bunch and have given myself different handicaps and stipulations so I feel I have a decent enough understanding of the game and that includes Micaiah. I wouldn't say Micaiah is a bad or terrible unit but I also wouldn't say she's great, she's just okay in my opinion. She's far more worth using and far less of a hassle than the likes of Meg, Fiona, Makalov, Vika, Tormod, Mist and Oliver. She goes from being less useful than Sothe in part 1 due to his higher stats allowing him to wipe out more enemies and faster and with less risk of dying to considerably more useful than Sothe in parts 3 and 4. She has staff use by then to heal and she can more safely handle the laguz in part 3 compared to Sothe. By the time of the tower, she still has her healing utility and her magic attacks can be useful, in particular, her high resistance and chance to proc Corona makes her very useful against the white dragons in Rebirth 3. However, she pales in comparison to the likes of Ike, Titania, Haar, Elincia, Oscar, the laguz royals whenever they're available and I would argue Shinon and Zihark. Granted, most of the game she won't even share chapters with most of those units but they will prove more useful in the chapters they're in than Micaiah will in the chapters she's in. Micaiah having access to Thani does help her specifically against the few cavalier units you fight and the armored units you fight throughout the game. Against any other unit, she is at best a single solid hit that usually won't kill the enemy unless you abuse bonus exp to give her more speed or give her Resolve or Beastfoe for part 3. In part 1, I don't find her healing to be too noteworthy. You have a whopping 2 chapters where you don't have Laura and the game provides herbs and vulneraries that you shouldn't run out of by chapter 2. The status healing of Sacrifice only matters for the poison status in part 1 which isn't a big deal, you would have to go out of your way to make status an issue in part 3 by giving a Greil Mercenary a Venin weapon from part 2 which if anything, would do more help than harm given how weak venin weapons are and there is admittedly some sleep and silence statuses to fend off in Distortions and Rebirth 1. Sacrifice isn't useless but in the vast majority of cases, Micaiah would be better off if she could just wield staves in part 1. At the very least she can piggyback and get easy exp anytime you would want Laura to heal someone since Micaiah can Sacrifice on them and Laura can heal her. I can't chime in as much comparing Micaiah to other lords throughout the series. I've beaten Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light, Sacred Stones (both paths), Path of Radiance, Radiant Dawn, Shadow Dragon, Awakening and all 3 paths of Fates and have played but not beaten Blazing Sword and Shadows of Valentia. Of all the lords in the games I've beaten, I feel I can only say Micaiah is definitely better than FE11 Marth.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the discourse! I’ll address a couple of points. I tend to play only on HM and RD HM is a very different experience from NM, given the very severe exp drawback that occurs. Because of that sacrifice is indeed very useful, given it’s basically “free experience” even if you don’t take a combat action. Something no other unit can do. Her promotions are also free, meaning you don’t need to spend valuable bonus exp to reap the values of promotion. When you said she’s less useful than Shinon, Ike, Haar, Titania, I think you’re really overlooking the fact that the majority of the chapters with the greil mercenaries in general are just easier than that of the dawn brigade. Part of this is unit quality, which is true, but the objective question that needs to be asked is : “in an army of gods, does 1 extra one really make a difference?” For the dawn brigade, Micaiah is the ONLY solution, barring tauroneo, that can 1 tap the armored and cavs. That’s it. There no other person that can RELIABLY do so on HM. Because of that ALONE, she’s already better than a lot of units in the DB. When you say there are only a “few armored and cav units” that’s just not true. Almost every boss in micaiahs portion is an armored unit. Most of her maps the unit density is compromised of Laguz or of armored and cavalier that constitute the bulk of the threatening combat units. Both of those unit types have less res than def,most of those take effective damage. So to say she’s not really contributing against the most common enemy type that is taking damage from her, is not really . Now I’m not saying that’s the ONLY enemy type. But I will say it is the most threatening that you will face during the dawn brigade chapters. Regarding the lords, she definitely has more utility than PoR Ike, but I do think he’s underrated by the community a lot. She’s better than Eirika for sure (and some could even argue Ephraim due to the low quality of enemy units in sacred stones, albeit I’ll disagree), and corrin/robin is not really a lord but more an avatar. And they really go out of their ways to make avatars absolutely busted in almost every game.
@ArchSageDragonlord
@ArchSageDragonlord 10 ай бұрын
@@FireEmbrosI should've worded it better when bringing up the cavaliers and armored units as I only meant there's only a few cavalier units. There's the boss of A Faint Light, the group of cavalier, including the boss of Raise the Standard 2 and otherwise there's a decent amount of cavalier in Chaos Named. There's also at least a small handful of them in The Price as I do recall Kieran being an enemy unit along with some other cavaliers. So while nuking cavaliers is valuable, there's not a whole lot of them to nuke with Thani. Certainly more armored units with the boss of The Dispossessed being the first one, ever so conveniently when you get your first Thani tome. There's some in A Faint Light, Raise the Standard 1, A Gathering Hope, Daein, Arise!, The Price, Chaos Named and Rebirth 1. I will also say if you're mostly referring to Micaiah in hard mode then my experience does come up short as I only beat it once. My main enjoyment of playing RD comes from the large amount of playable characters and the chapters being divided up into groups of different characters, allowing for a large amount of variety when it comes to who gets brought to the tower and how easy or difficult the chapters prior are as a result of who you focus on. Main example being actually defeating Ike in Blood Contract. Hard mode giving less exp and not having battle saves makes it really hard to even want to try using the worse units in the game. Characters like Meg and Fiona don't get their stats compensated at all on hard mode when they're already bad in normal mode and any attempt at grinding them up can lead to a single unlucky hit or crit (not for Meg thanks to Fortune) which can undo several minutes of work. I can definitely agree that Micaiah would still see value in hard mode. She's still a healer, still a magic attacker and as you said, her ability to do massive damage and even OHKO some units, bosses included would be incredibly valuable. The only other characters that can even match that would be as you said Tauroneo, Nailah against anyone for the 2 chapters she appears in, in part 1, and Nolan specifically against armored units and not cavaliers and only after getting the Hammer from Raise the Standard and it's also riskier for him given the 1 range compared to the 1-2 of Thani and the far worse accuracy.
@Arkholt2
@Arkholt2 10 ай бұрын
"She's a powerhouse that can one shot anything" "She's mostly a powerful staff bot that shouldn't be on the front lines" Okay... so which is it? She can't be both.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
Yes she can. In part one she one shots enemies on player phase. Can be rescued or positioned so she’s protected. She can transition to staff utility without any effort whatsoever for part 3 or 4 in case you don’t need that extra damage. It’s about role compression and utility, which she offers plenty.
@Arkholt2
@Arkholt2 10 ай бұрын
@@FireEmbros so you're expending the resources of other units to rescue or protect her in order to keep her in combat range, when you could instead just keep her off of the front lines and out of danger, as your own video suggests you should do, and put those other units to better use. I don't see how that's worth the time and effort. Maybe Micaiah is a better unit than people think. She probably is, because she does have some utility and isn't completely useless (and she's force deployed so you might as well put her to work). But I think saying she's "fantastic" is going a bit far, and having her actually perform all those roles is a waste of resources.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
@@Arkholt2 you mean the resource of Meg and Fiona hitting rescue? Yeah. I can live with that. You still seem to be missing the key: no unit In the dawn brigade can 1 round those enemies. So it is indeed better to use her to kill and then use someone else’s action to rescue (someone who wouldn’t 1 round anyways) Also you don’t even really need to rescue. You can put someone on a choke and just shove her back.
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 7 ай бұрын
@@FireEmbros sorry but she îs not a Power house at all
@BerthramAldvonnormand
@BerthramAldvonnormand 10 ай бұрын
Suck in part 1 become great once she promote She dosen't suck but she is not amazing either I think is that the fact that you have to babysit her in the 1st part that make people underate her
@davidk2023
@davidk2023 8 ай бұрын
If you say she sucks in part 1 that just means you have no idea how to use her. I just played hm again for fun and got the most speed screwed miciahiah ever (level 20/14 with only 14 speed) and she did everything I needed from her in part 1.
@blankblank6214
@blankblank6214 10 ай бұрын
Just started video considered me sceptical
@SinNun-tx5jp
@SinNun-tx5jp 10 ай бұрын
Tldw: skill issue
@voltron77
@voltron77 10 ай бұрын
I recently played through radiant dawn for the first time and my first impression of Micaiah in part 1 was really bad. She had bad stats and couldn’t use heal staves and had to rely on an obnoxious gimmick instead. However, after trading her and pumping her up with bonus exp, I found her to be a power house. She could reliably kill most infantry units with her Thani tome and did very well against magical units. When she got her promotion, she became and even better and in the endgame, she was probably one of my best units.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
She is very deceptive in how to “activate” her and for that I have to say she does have flaws. But they’re not nearly as bad as the benefits you gain from using her to a higher potential
@voltron77
@voltron77 10 ай бұрын
@@FireEmbros Yes exactly, a lot of people say she sucks simply because in part 1, she is very frail and easily killed, but when she gets staves, she becomes your most potent healer and that’s good enough to put in at least B tier.
@nessdbest8708
@nessdbest8708 10 ай бұрын
I agree!
@IcedCoffeeGaming
@IcedCoffeeGaming 10 ай бұрын
Based Micaiah DPS Enjoyer
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
Gotta have those Thani nukes!
@rubyred169
@rubyred169 8 ай бұрын
If I had to be honest, I'd would have liked micaiah, if RD itself didn't frustrate me with it's stronger enemies where it feels like I'm fighting a uphill battle mixed with frustration. Case and Point 1-9 where I never moved micaiah until there no more enemies moving around but during that time it just frustrate me because of how much she kept dying from enemies who can one round her if the enemies got lucky enough to land two hits on her.
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 8 ай бұрын
I do think the black knight fight in 1-9 is so poorly designed. It truly puts a hamper on the players enjoyment. You’re right, the dawn brigade suffers from some serious issues in capabilities and makes the game feel like a chore with them at times.
@aleisterleopold6229
@aleisterleopold6229 10 ай бұрын
The siege tombs have really low might to be worth it. There is not a lot of useful utility staves. It is basically just healing, which you have items for on top of the fact that your units are pretty durable when trained. Also magic users have lower movement for some reason. Also Mechiah is very slow. Unable to double
@miguelsanchez825
@miguelsanchez825 10 ай бұрын
Micaiah is the must fun lord ever for some reason to me, made actually work hard and was satisfying.
@maelstromspiral484
@maelstromspiral484 10 ай бұрын
Why's there a Gullveig at 3:12?
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
Don't blink, but it's less than a frame. I do this randomly in some videos of mine, i just insert her at a random spot, at a random time, in a random video for a frame :). It' s a little quirk I have going on and whenever anybody finds them, they get pinned to the top first. I do note whenever they is possibly a Gullveig in a video. If there's no mention of a hidden gem or easter egg or whatnot, that means she's not in the video.. otherwise.. she can be anywhere in time ;)!
@Alice-FE
@Alice-FE 10 ай бұрын
Fire EmBros with another Banger
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
That's very kind of you!!! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@SinNun-tx5jp
@SinNun-tx5jp 10 ай бұрын
Can Micaia get Vantage?
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
You could take it off Mia and pass to her, yes. One combination that is very useful and quickly put into practice early on is Resolve + sacrifice. She can sacrifice, get into resolve range, and start doubling things she otherwise shouldn't be able to. With a 2 range strong mt tome, this can really do a lot of damage to enemies.
@PikangsFutaba
@PikangsFutaba 10 ай бұрын
@@FireEmbros True, resolve helps a lot, in my case I took Edward's wrath instead (not that reliable unless you feel lucky... which back then I felt lucky and worked for me like a charm), but yeah, part of the fun is experimenting stuff that can give you surprising results in your favor when played right.
@renegaderaven3777
@renegaderaven3777 10 ай бұрын
She’s not really a front liner. Not the star of the show for sure. But just letting her do her utility and support can be a great contribution.
@DanielFlores-fv3vr
@DanielFlores-fv3vr 10 ай бұрын
Nah, still a bad unit. In comparison with Ike or even Elincia (flying healer) of course Micaiah looks bad as a playable unit. Glass canons are not worth it with you one-shot on player phase and then get one-shotted on enemy phase.
@greyshadow9848
@greyshadow9848 10 ай бұрын
I mean if you take mercy off elincia she can fight well too, stun and amiti for brave effect is pretty nuts. Michiah is literally just one of the worst combat units ever. I’ve literally capped her speed and she still can’t double, I’ve seen her survive 1 round of combat with 24 defense. I cheated for inf bexp and she was still easily the worst unit in my army the whole way through, hilariously I’ve seen Laura do better damage with a unforged light time with e rank magic and 10 levels lower. Because she can double. Michiah was using Rexaura… she’s that bad
@micgamingyt5169
@micgamingyt5169 10 ай бұрын
My name is micaiah
@addambarcelos
@addambarcelos 10 ай бұрын
Great video as always, man o/
@FireEmbros
@FireEmbros 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for the feedback, you always a real one!!! Glad you liked it!
@bobjones4469
@bobjones4469 10 ай бұрын
I like Micaiah NTR Rule 34.
@blankblank6214
@blankblank6214 10 ай бұрын
Way to slow of a unit
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