The INSANITY of Path of Radiance Maniac Mode

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The INSANITY of Path of Radiance Maniac Mode
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[@Mangs1337]

Watch me attempt it tomorrow: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXuQXqGYpNZop5o

[@Profebolter]

@Mangs, I don't want to disappoint you, but I completed Fire Emblem 9, Ironman Maniac Mode and without even using the armbands. Here's my playlist: kzbin.info/aero/PLs7hSaCbBrC1JL--ewXlUXSki18tL4ZMl And yes, I must admit that if you are not experienced, this game is very hard to play, and some levels are very challenging and sometimes you have to stop and think about some strategies. By the way, my English is bad and I blank a lot of times. I just hope Mangs that in case, you decide to play Fire Emblem 9 Maniac Mode. I will be supporting you, and I hope you can finish the game this time. And finally, I want to thank you. I didn't know there was a higher difficulty in Fire Emblem 9, and I discovered it thanks to your streaming and that's why I decided to go ahead and play on that difficulty with the Ironman rules without using the armbands.

[@LunarianRex-Aurision-StatGains]

Aurision one of the members of this channel will also be attempting this on twitch very soon , good luck and hope you succeed

[@nessdbest8708]

Silly egg, Clash is chapter 26 not 27

[@billytringuyen1]

GO GET THEM MANGS!!

[@nessdbest8708]

they slash them get it?@@billytringuyen1

[@Donlot_]

Hey Guys Donlot here! That finale really was a roller-coaster of emotions. Even if i failed i got quite far, and it was pretty fun. I'll probably give it another try eventually but will take a break for now. Some things regarding Maniac Mode Ironman: * I would actually disagree that you cannot dodgetank in MM without earth affinity. I used Mia in my run and she was unironically one of my best units throughout the run. Unlike Stefan she actually has a Luck stat which ended up around 20 for me. On the final map she and Ike both took on the wyverns on their own and they only really had around 10% hit chance on her. Her RES is also really not bad, so she was pretty safe from Siege tomes. Vantage Cancel was a great combo on her throughout the run. You'd think her low STR cap of 22 would screw her over, but with Silver swords, forged, brave sword, killing edge, or even a silver blade, she was still able to do some good damage at all times due to always doubling. * Oscar is gonna be essential as is Tanith. Not only are they good units on their own, Tanith comes with Reinforce, which can REALLY save your ass, can usually one round fliers with the sonic sword, and do really good damage against beast laguz with the flame lance later on. Meanwhile Oscar is usually alright stat wise and can increase his Bulk even further via Sol later on. The real big thing here is that both of them have earth support. Thus you can do B support Oscar Ike, A support Oscar Tanith, and get like +45 avoid on oscar, which can make him somewhat RNG Proof. * Do not underestimate Savior. In many cases it doesn't do much for you, but as far as i can tell, rescued units still give support bonuses. So what you could do is Ike Oscar support + Ike Soren support, then rescue Soren with Oscar, and solo with him and Ike. A friend of mine actually beat the finale like this iirc. * ALWAYS train Ilyana and Soren to at the very least level 10, so you can early promote them if you really need a healer. Potentially Tormod aswell. PoR is really stingy with it's healers. The only ones you get are Rhys and Mist early on, then Soren, Ilyana and Tormod after promo, and Elincia way later on (although you don't really wanna use her since she is a game over) * Make good use of Shade and Provoke. How these skills work is: If you have shade: long as an enemy cannot kill you in 1 round of combat, and they can target another unit, they will never attack you. Shade on your sages can be insanely good as it allows you to use them more offensively. Rhys might still be one rounded due to being too squishy though. Provoke works similiarly but can also backfire due to Siege tomes being spammed on you. * Consider hoarding your RES boosters until you actually start facing Siege tomes, then either give them your armor knight of choice, or possibly Ike. Although i think Armor knight is usually the better call. * Corrosion on a unit which attacks the same unit often, like armor knights during clash and the like, can actually be useful. Normally it is kind of a meme since it at most reduces enemy durability by 10, but in the late game that usually means 2 corrosion procs on an enemy can immobilize them. * Always go for Bows on Paladin promo unless you're Makalov. Going from lances to axes is not that big of a jump damage wise, lategame has lots of fliers, and even if effective damage is just x2, you can still one round a lot of lategame wyverns relatively reliably with forged Steel bow or Forged Silver bow. * Laguz are very economical to use since their weapons cannot break. This may not sound like much, but over the course of a run it could save you money you could then use for forges. * Laguz actually both GAIN and LOSE 1 transformation gauge when attacked, depending on whether transformed or not. Unlike RD their stats don't get halved when untransformed, so letting them take a hit or two is actually not completely unviable on some maps. * Consider saving up any Spears or stronger than Javelin/Hand axe 1-2 range weapons for clash and the like since they can be better than even forged basic 1-2 weapons at times, and are relatively rare. * If your Gatrie and Brom don't need them, or are dead and you're forced to use Tauroneo, you could save your Dracoshield for him to make him cap DEF pretty much guaranteed. His Resolve could then possibly make him better than the other two. Especially if he still has the Knight ward by then. * Consider saving your luck boosters for brom. The endgame dragons tend to have around 11-12 crit in my experience. Some things i haven't really tested but are atleast worth a thought: * Mordecai and Ulki have a double Water support which means +3 atk & DEF. Their average at level 20 is around 26/27 DEF (including transform bonuses). Combined with their relatively high DEF cap of 26 (ulki) and 30 (Mordecai) they might be worth a try to support together. Sure they only have 1 range, but how relevant is that when they can still take off hordes of enemies off your back? If you can somehow get Mordy up to 30 DEF, then get the +3 transform bonus and the possible +4 def support bonus he can get, that could be an insane 37 DEF. Considering how DEF scales in the lategame, he might unironically be indestructable to physical weapons * Ulki *theoretically* can become an absolute dodgetank. He gets +20 Avoid from vigilance, and has an insane SPD cap of 36. The catch? His lvl 20 average is only around 26 including transform bonuses. However, if you can get that up a bit via SPD bands, speed wings, or just plain being lucky, and then give him resolve, he could theoretically get up to 36 +18 speed for a total of 108 avoid + 20 from vigilance, +15 from his average luck, for a total of 143 avoid, not even counting supports. Is this feasibly doable or likely to happen? Probably not. But it's a fun thought. Even Ashnard would have trouble hitting him, and he'd be able to take 2 hits. A strategy could be to have him stall Ashnard until you can deal with the other enemies, then fight Ashnard on your own terms. * Lethe is in a somewhat similiar spot as Ulki due to having the same SPD cap, but having an average of 24 luck, aswell as a possible support with ike and ranulf, which could make for a reasonably well support triangle between her, ike and ranulf. * Zihark / Brom support may not be such a bad idea. They both get 23 extra avoid, combined with his average 30 spd 18 luck it could make him dodgy enough to actually dodgetank. Especially if you can get that luck up with band levels. * If your other shade users are dead, you could spare an angelic robe to Rhys so he is pretty much guranteed to not get one rounded by most enemies. With all that being said, good luck on your run! I'll be eagerly watching you on Friday

[@mikhail7140]

Zihark and Brom with Nephenee sounds great, but I tested it and it didn't work out very well. Enemies still had around 30-40 hit chance on Zihark and he died in 2 hits on Clash. But looking forward to seeing you test it out on your next run. I'll definitely try out Mordecai and Ulki on my maniac ironman attempt. Using them to save money is big brain

[@Donlot_]

@@mikhail7140 If you actually wanna do the Ulki/Mordy strat you could combine it with Savior and just Rescue Ulki with Mordy to permanently get that +3 Def without having to worry about Ulki

[@nessdbest8708]

Savior is best on Jill, not Oscar.

[@alberozuko]

Mia was surprisngly competent, and Brom was able top hold the right side solo, he may need some long range help for the deadeye Sniper and the Blizzard Sage and luck to remove the heavy spears. he really can just sit tehre with 3 javs and maybe a sword for the Berserker and just have fun corroding everyone, and just pool everyone else on the left corner and hope the left team can clear everything there. I'd say conserve staff and siege tomes as much as posible: sages can be slept, dangerous people like Bryce or the killer weapon units could be berserked or siege tome'd away, i say it's all about managing to get to last chapter with all your resources intact: if you lose too many pieces, it might not be possibl: I think donlot might have made it if he had had Oscar or titania to protect the mages so that way you can be a lot more strategic with resolve ranges by using physic instead of fortify. I think the problem here is less beating the last chapter, but getting there safely with all the resources you need (Knight band for example would have been a very good safety for brom, for example). Sorry for the long rant, I am alreay anticipating the next attempts!

[@slickrounder6045]

Agreed Mia ends up strictly better than Stefan with proper investment. Most believe she is only top dog in Radiant Dawn, but in fact she can get there in POR as well. Vantage Cancel is amazing. Mia was criminally underrated both on Serenes, and in Mangs Lp's of Por.

[@Hone_mor2525]

11:25 Mangs rolling the die when Wrath+Resolve ike: Mangs rolling the die when Aether ike:

[@Abundy]

What you didn't mention or emphasize (other than a generic, get good level ups) is how important Ike's stats are in the late game. That means keeping especially Energy Drops and Draco Shields for him in case he gets screwed in those areas.

[@goukeban6197]

I'm just gonna leave here a repeat of the comment I made on the death compilation video. *Some attitudes that may help in the next attempt: - Never buy items in bulk from the armory. Once again: NEVER BUY ITEMS IN BULK FROM THE ARMORY! Focus on buying directly into the inventory of the units you are about to use in the chapter, that way you won't waste money and will have more for forges and Volke. - Get your mages to promote as soon as you can and focus on getting them bonus exp. AND kills whenever you get the chance. You always forget to give them kills. Sages would be immensely helpful against those dragons. - ALWAYS check both flier and ballista ranges. No matter how safe you think you are, it's paramount that this is the FIRST thing you do at the beginning of every turn, specially when you have Reyson deployed. - Leave the chatting for enemy phase. During player phase you must be focused on making the decisions to proceed, you'll have plenty of time to interact with chat when it's the enemy's turn. - Use your bulky Paladins to find pitfalls at the bridge, it saves a lot of headaches and you can plan around it. - Don't count on skills to save your units. Tauroneo's Resolve is good, but putting him to fight swordmasters alone was a terrible idea.

[@Hone_mor2525]

Another issue with Jill on Maniac is her low RES This makes her a magnet for siege tomes (especially blizzard)

[@lspuria8440]

Feel the hype. Let the hype course through your veins. I'm absolutely hyped for this ironman. This is gonna be it.

[@LordCattow]

Alright Mangs, I don't often comment, but as someone who has completed Path of Radiance Maniac mode as an ironman "off camera", let me share some tips with you: 1. Don't forge in the late game. It's a waste of money. You need a lot of weapon uses to deal with the hordes of enemies and forges break too quickly for how much they cost. Silver weapons and basic 1-2 weapons tend to do much better, especially on your late game units with good stats. 2. Try going for defensive supports whenever possible. You said it yourself: defense reigns supreme in maniac mode and defensive supports boost both defense AND resistance. Try pairing up Jill (thunder) with Mist (water) for that juicy +3 defense and resistance. It makes Jill way more viable. Other defensive supports include Gatrie x Illyana, Mist x Mordecai, Oscar x Tanith, Illyana x Mordecai and Gatrie x Shinon. 3. Don't field Reyson unless you have to. Reyson is absolutely vital to beat Repatriation, but he's also made out of tissue paper. You need him alive to beat the game, so don't risk him dying by fielding him if you don't need to. 4. Use Shinon. It sounds like weird advice, but siege weapons and tomes don't behave like other attacks and they WILL try to hit Shinon whenever he's in range. I've had them target him even when there was a possible kill on the map. Provoke is a weird skill. And if he does die to something, he's also no big loss. 5. On the same note, Illyana is a strong damage dealer who has shade and a defensive affinity. She is a surprisingly good defensive unit, as most enemies will ignore her unless they can either kill her, or have no other targets, due to the fact she has 1-2 magic and deals quite the heavy damage on countering. 6. When you do get to Repratiation, don't charge. Defend. The first waves can be beaten and since Ashnard has ridiculous move, he will always reach your army alone, if you manage to beat the initial waves of enemies. Once he does, simply surround him with bulky units that can take a hit and wail on him with Ike, while defending against the incoming enemies. He's a lot less scary if he can't canto away from you. 7. The best units to use are those that level up well: don't be afraid to bench underperformers, even if you set out to use them. On the same note, anyone can shine with the right level ups. Base your deployments on what they can do, not what you want them to do. Good luck, Mangs. I'm sure you can manage to beat it this time.

[@Donlot_]

I would disagree with some things here: 1. Javs and Hand axes tend to just not cut it late game unless you have capped STR, or maybe a skill like luna or adept. 2. Generally agreed. But you also have to consider if you can feasibly have the units close to each other to get the support bonuses. Mist/Jill might give good bonuses, but keeping them close will be hard until mist promotes due to the move difference, aswell as mist just being a good bit squishier and wanting to not be on the front lines too much. Generally good advice though. 100% agreed with the rest.

[@HPkobold]

Good lord Mangs will have a lot on his plate if he wants to read every tip he can here

[@rockingpox2274]

Shade has not worked well for him in the past

[@dddmemaybe]

@@Donlot_ 1. Your main carries _can_ use generic 1-2 jav's late game like str 27(1 power elixir is cap)~ Brom and also Gatrie, who actually _average_ caps strength to _29 strength(-1 less than Boyd) 5 levels before max level._ Most Cavs and the like aren't as likely to be your _main_ carries in late game situations due to a _likely large_ defense difference(~3-10). 2. Jill can't go reasonably further up than the backline on Maniac (moreso especially lategame in particular) due to her survival stats being too low (similar to typical cavs). She really needs a defense or avoid(kind of) support to be defensively decent(not great but passing). Mist(supporting her) also rarely needs a specific tile placement as Physic is in decent availability to oscillate spamming on/off (also final map can buy them) with Mends- and she has canto-8 on top of that. Jill shouldn't aggro enough enemies to fuck over Mist that badly or she'd be dead herself too, assuming you don't misplace Mist too far forward. Her support to Haar can be alright, but they won't dodge hit-chances _that_ well. Keeping Mist's water support to Mordecai can also be clutch though. If you want to risk Ike levels, Draco shielding Mordecai can be absurdly _efficient_ with that canto-mist support(especially with good Smite and Laguz meter attention). With Ulki he can get _another +5 defense/damage_ from supports in total, on a super-bulk unit already.(Use enemy targeting _control_ strategy with it).

[@PH_777]

I did this offscreen, i told mangs that the real roadblock was the final map, not clash, took a couple of attempts before we got there. The easy way out is to keep your statboosters for Nasir/Ena and resolve/wrath on them, they have enough maximum stats to never be in danger.

[@nessdbest8708]

Please show.

[@olympusgolemoflight7198]

On the bright side, Donlot choked at the end of his run, so you should have a chance to beat it before him.

[@Thalzo]

I agree with egg here, Maniac Mode is a tough challenge to complete in a ironman setting. If you do not have good units, inventory, supports, knowledge of the game, patience, luck, and a strategy to beat both Clash and the final map, the game is going to kick your ass without mercy and your ironman is going to fail.

[@JackG3684]

I think it's essential that your Ike is stronger this time. Last time, he didn't cap a few important stats, and having a strong Ike is very important against Ashnard. Not to mention in raising your chances of getting Nasir.

[@HanakkoLove]

Basically just don't field Elincia, got it

[@Hone_mor2525]

real

[@stevenxenoknight3845]

Nephenee is a prize fighter in maniac. she has the defensive stats and the mobility/crit rate to handle everything until you reach dragons and ashnard. My Neph procs luna consistently and "blocks" most incoming damage. Only weakness is a lower HP pool, but that tanky defensive stat and resistance will ensure she makes it to the very end. She doubles reliably and has plenty of luck to proc Luna so she can take down enemies that would normally require two or three units to take down safely.

[@anderss8751]

Mangs, I know of at least one streamer who streamed an entire ironman of maniac mode live (jellyfishswimmer on twitch). It was highlighted so all of the videos are still uploaded.

[@Bunnymafia8150]

Something that helped me out a lot during my maniac play through was giving provoke to whoever gets adept. Normally provoke is pretty worthless but for me it ensured all the enemies had a chance to get hit 3-4 times instead of twice, which really speeds up your advance. Assuming that every character in range has the same target priority as your adept user, so keep your ranged weapons in mind. I liked it on Kieran because he’s never got high enough defense to take 0 damage (stopping enemies from targeting him altogether), but he’s bulky enough to not melt and dodgy with an Oscar support. Plus Oscar tends to like Sol since he promotes before Kieran does. But this can work on any unit with workable defense and avoid.

[@matiastorres2553]

provoke resolve brom is pretty good actually xD

[@eclipsemaster9497]

Some tips, for chapter seven when you send Titania up through the middle don't equip her with a hand axe as there are only 2 ranged units and 7-8 direct units who she one rounds with steel axe

[@eclipsemaster9497]

For chapter 8 make sure you get the red gem and the droppable long bow as it is 1000 gold to sell, and sell the poleaxe as well

[@eclipsemaster9497]

For chapter 9 forge Oscar a max atk and hit lance, barrier Ike, and have Oscar and Titania positioned on the top deployment slots so that Titania can rescue Ike and move full movement towards the beach, and Oscar to rescue drop Ike, that way your other units don't need to shove chain Ike

[@eclipsemaster9497]

Also please don't early promote Mist as she needs her levels

[@eclipsemaster9497]

For the priest chapter (22 iirc) use siege tomes to kill the thieves

[@eclipsemaster9497]

Also one last thing, use wrath resolve on Ike, this is not for Dodge purposes, this is for killing ashnard and aether is too rng dependant to be reliable whereas wrath resolve works 100% of the time

[@luigiye6243]

3:09 mangs: i don't know, maybe I'm crazy I mean, yeah, seeing you did deadless 3 out 4 AW games

[@Zev95]

LETS GO MANGS THIS IS THE RUN I FEEL IT! I always LOVE watching you play the Tellius games, and I really desperately wanna see you be able to move onto Radiant Dawn after this one!

[@azuritecola7894]

I’ve beaten it off camera before, also suffering a brutal endgame loss of my own (my Ike was genuinely -6 skill below average that run, so I never procced aether. I gave a ton of stat boosters to Ike in my winning run to ensure no RNG screwing occurs again, and won with Ike/Oscar/Soren hiding the the bushes dodge tanking the entire map (it almost wasn’t worth deploying any other units because they just slow down the enemies that you need Ike to kill ASAP before Ashnard arrives) It was a part of my rather lofty goal to Ironman Manaic Mode PoR into Radiant Dawn Hard Mode back to back (with transfer bonuses). I lost in Geoffrey’s Charge and gave up bc fuck that map, but perhaps I’ll give it another go now alongside you… I still have never beaten the Black Knight so maybe I can finally check that off the list too I’d also highly consider giving Ike Provoke alongside Aether, maybe even after Clash, as he makes an ok bait for seige tomes in the end game with his high avoid, and in the last map the enemies (esp the dragons) are too bulky for anyone besides Ike to handle effectively…

[@azuritecola7894]

On Wrath + Resolve. I think both it and Aether are very similar. In a vacuum, Wrath Resolve gives you a few extra percentage points of keeping Ike alive, so I don’t blame you if you go that route. However, I personally don’t like it due to the opportunity cost. In my winning run, Wrath + Resolve on Boyd was able to 1 round dragons on enemy phase with forged Silver/Killer axes. Not every unit wants an Occult scroll, but almost every unit wants Wrath/Resolve, so I prefer Aether Ike, who is a great use of Occult, + 1 other god unit able to put in work to keep the area clear. With other units able to put in work, Ike will face less enemies and have less chance of being RNG screwed.

[@Densema]

I would not give Ike provoke even if he does okayish with his stats. Him dead equals run dead, even if it is calculated, I do not want to put the risk even higher

[@Speedwinghere]

The final chapter is so crazy that the run basically ends up as oh man I hope I still have this unit for it. Resolve vs aether is a tough one as while resolve is a coinflip so is aether, donlot survived as long as he did because of a ludicrous amount of aether procs at a 27% chance each time.

[@dkbongo3]

I'm liking these informative vids from mangs

[@Timmio.]

Verrrry nice really looking forward to it Mangs! Good luck I personally only played PoR once. Blind Hard mode (Western HM) ironman. Had 3 units die until the final map, yet still failed not expecting the spike to be that rough... I also have (co-owning with my brother) a real copy of the game now, even though I don't have the system to play it on anymore. Will probably do Maniac when I do my next run of it, either just to complete it, or as another ironman run. (Granted, I'd likely not record it, so even if I decide to rush it, your record-attempt is not in danger) I'll tune in this friday, if I can. Have a nice run

[@fireemblemironman1117]

Are you sure there has never been a recorded attempt of beating the ironman? I did it on this channel, if you wanna check it out.

[@silverhouse7]

Darkstroyer actually has playlists of video of him beating FE9 MM ironman. He did it in his second attempt, so unfortunately Mangs won't be able to be the first person to beat MM ironman on youtube. Can't post a link here since youtube automatically deletes comments that contain links but it shouldn't be too hard to find.

[@bropup]

As someone who’s beaten a maniac Ironman once and watched most of your maniac Ironmans, There are really only a few pieces of advice I have to give. First is to use your skill scrolls wisely. Vantage+Cancel can be a huge boost to survivability when given to units with 1-2 range that see a lot of combat, I know you used it with mia once but it’s WAY better to use both scrolls on someone like Jill, it makes her so much more viable on lunatic, allowing her to potentially negate enemy attacks before they can happen. Wrath and Adept are also very important scrolls as they’re the only non occult scrolls that can boost combat power. Adept is good on people that struggle to one round but have good skill like Oscar and Brom, while wrath is pretty good on anybody with especially high avoid, as well as in tauroneo. And finally Provoke is absolutely insane, and shade is good to a lesser extent as well, make sure you give them out wisely as well. Besides skills, what’s most important is pay attention to your important units, Especially Reyson. I’ve seen you lose him and many others to easily avoidable bad placement too many times by now lmao, just make a concerted effort to activate enemy ranges BEFORE moving him and other weaker units.

[@bropup]

Sorry for leftist comment but if there’s any one thing you take away from this it should be Vantage+Cancel on Jill it carried my runs so far

[@astracrits4633]

@@bropup "leftist comment" As we all know, Fire Emblem unit optimization exists because of the WOKE LEFTISTS.

[@luthierisbestboy8177]

Well, the first and most important tip for a Maniac Mode ironman is to PAY ATTENTION TO THE ENEMIES. But for real, I wish you luck on being the first to have a recorded Maniac Mode ironman!

[@uscari]

Give Ike Savior + Resolve. Forget Wrath. Get him to A support with Soren, rescue Soren, and sit tight in a bush. If you stack resolve-boosted speed, Ike's high luck, the earth/dark support, and a bush altogether, you should have 125 avoid even with bad biorhythm. Most enemies on the final map have 0% chance hit him when resolve is activated. The lance wyverns have like ~10% chance, Dragons ~20%, Bryce and Ashnard ~30%. Ike is very unlikely to get hit when below 50%, and even if he does, he'll have almost 30 defense with Ragnell, and you can put a laguzguard to protect him against Dragons. Wrath isn't needed because resolve-boosted Ike will 1-round most enemies anyways.

[@mikhail7140]

I've beaten Maniac mode 3 times and I'll go ahead and attempt my first Iron Man of it. I like putting the Tanith support with Oscar and Kieran and they can usually dodge tank Sol a lot of the maps. Brom and Nephenee of course, then Soren with Ike and you have 3 strong groups that shouldn't die all that easily. You could train up Marcia and pair her with Tanith for extra avoid and she also pairs with Kieran, so you can have a 4 man group with an crazy amount of avoid. I also like training up Astrid with Makalov because they make a very strong pair and I put the dracoshields and Sol on Astrid. Makalov is very underrated imo. Haar always feels very underwhelming, but Jill performs well enough on her own. Good luck on your run!

[@matiastorres2553]

soren needs shade to survive and still is too fragile, i prefer titania+ike if u got a goods lvls ups with titania in the early game

[@GeoSage1137]

Fun fact; Excelblem js currently attempting this run right now, and is two Chapters away from beating it. So we'll see if this record is broken soon

[@franciscocristobal3095]

And he did... his first blind playthrough and he beat it.

[@davisg5210]

I believe in ya Mangs, whether its this run or the next one(s), you WILL win this

[@thetactlesstactician7703]

Please don't get Soren killed again.

[@claudioanimemaniac]

Soren the mage benched

[@thetactlesstactician7703]

@@claudioanimemaniac Reported for having a garbage take. XD

[@Azamingg]

Yeah, I'm all in for it. I felt so invested in your attempts that it stressed ME out. So I'll be here, in my little rest-/workroom/kitchen and be on the edge of my dawn... I mean seat, and watch your next and hopefully final attempt.

[@fireembros1165]

Wait, is it really a world first if someone recorded it? Because I may inadvertently have it then lol. When I was streaming on twitch I actually did a PoR maniac mode clear Ironman, and some people were there watching. I think I have the footage of the final chapters as well Edit: So I got home from work and checked my footage stock and found the last chapter of the ironman (along with jill dying in clash =/) [I only lost Jill and Volke during my run] in my archive from the time I did it on Twitch. I can send it to you if you'd like. I've never uploaded it, but it has been done on camera and live before, and if me of all people did it, I guarantee you there are probably others who have as well. I also want to offer my advice since I can back up my credentials now: I don't really know what you're aiming at with the Gatrie/Brom strat here. No matter how you wanna spin this, it's still a low move enemy phase only armored knight and the average endgame stat for Brom and Gatrie on spd is respectively 16.75 and 14.5 . You're not gonna double anything that matters and all you're gonna be left with is a bunch of encroaching cavs that are gonna zoom for your backline. Especially if you have two of them. The key to my run was to understand that PoR is a playerphase game with some formation breaking on enemy phase. The cavs are busted. Somebody here said to put bows on everyone upon promotion. They are correct. There's a large density of flying units and the bows with effective damage will help against their massive bulk along with good hit rate and damage against other units. The cav hit and run strats are at the highest usage in this game. For something like clash, you'd wanna bait the cavs at max range, then mop everything up on playerphase. Especially if you give reyson a laguz stone so you can dance 4 peoeple on the second turn. Yeah you'll lose turn 1 dance, but it doesn't matter because you'll gain 4 extra actions on the second turn and you'll be setting up for turn 2. Now, somebody also said: Use the laguz. 100%. Forget gatrie and brom. Use the laguz to carry you across the majority of the game and ditch them as the game progresses. Lethe's bases transformed are basically that of a prepromo and they last for a good good time. Janaff is good too so is Ulki. Ranulf is a capable sub. But the true key is to get a unit that has enough spd to be able to double the lategame units and reduce enemy HP so you can mop up on Player Phase. For that matter, I also recommend on the desert map trying to steal as may of the blue laguz stones as possible to sprinkle on your units. Somebody also said forges are a trap. I agree. Silver lances are more than enough to handle the damage output at endgame. BUT there is some value to forging Javelins. I found myself forging javelins and handaxes all the time to have that reliable more damage output 1-2 range option. I also highly recommend saving your siege tomes to counter their siege tomes. And for that matter, Soren is probably the best mage you'll get. Really fast, wind magic has effective against fliers and fire against laguz so he can cover your early game. Also having adept on him isn't bad because he can occasionally double again with a siege tome even if he doesn't reach the spd threshold. i do STRONGLY recommend ONLY using the siege tomes against counter sieges (or ballista) or for some big bulky dragons at the end. Same goes for the sleep staff. Only use it to stop sieges (usually the ballista or dragons are the best hit targets for them). There's two ways you could handle the endgame. I strongly recommend putting Nasir with resolve because he reaches thresholds to double ashnard with 1 spd wing (which conveniently you get from bryce), Ike with Aether is crucial too because, like you said, sustainability is key. Oscar Ike support is basically mandatory and allows for Ike to clear out the majority of the enemies in the final chapter with 1-2 range enemy phase, greatly reducing the enemy density. It is imperative he caps spd and if possible strength for it and he usually does, so you're gonna need a good Ike. Some people say that Mist is necessary for the BK fight, i'd say it's a coin flip honestly. I used her and she was useful in the last map due to canto with physic, but probably could've gotten away with it with Rhys too. I'd say Mist is the more investment heavy requirement with better payout, but it's debatable if it was 100% necessary. TLDR: The cavs are gonna be your bread and butter, hit and run strats are king with bows as well. Use the laguz and dump them to conserve weapons and carry you through certain chapters. Astrid is actually pretty good and if you deploy her on 17 she can most likely lvl like crazy on those 4 chapters with just chip kills here and there. Invest into Ike. Counter siege tomes with siege tomes and forge 1-2 range almost exclusively to conserve your money and get the biggest bang outta your buck. Also effective weapons are fantastic (poleaxe, regal sword, horseslayer, laguz lance/axe especiallya gainst the dragons) use them. Save the higher1-2 range weapons (spear, short spear) for latter. Tanith is the best unit in the game btw. Being able to control the yellows who almost exclusively go snipe the siege tome users is a game changer. They are also busted with stats and i strongly recommend you deploy as much as possible and as often as possible. Tanith herself is no slouch with earth affinity and sonic sword at base, being able to switch to flame lance after. She's fantastic, avoid losing her. Anyways, hope this helps and good luck!

[@HPkobold]

Ngl chief but I think Mangs is aiming for clearing PoR iron man while having a boatload of people who watched him get all the way through or he is saying “no one ever beaten this on cam” to drum up hype for the funny egg man to actually have an achievement that is recognize, since what’s the point of a achievement if no one recognizes it?

[@fireembros1165]

@@HPkobold might be the case, but I was on cam as well and there are more people who have recordings of it without their cams active. Just saying it’s not less legitimate because not as many people were watching, or else Guiness world records holders would be outta business ahahhha

[@LizardVVizard]

Its always awesome to find out theres still a challenge left to do out there for an old game, hell yeah Im looking forward to this

[@drowningmerman4256]

First of all: FOCUS! Don't talk when you have decisions to make.

[@ineed2speed]

Correct. I don't remember seeing Maniac mode at all. But I've seen Mangs mode attempted.

[@kevinnezukojk8870]

I've completed Path of Radiance on All 3 Difficulties with all Characters alive. I still have all the safe filed on the memory card.

[@bakalee1452]

I STILL HAVE CHILLS FROM THE TAURODEO!

[@Ben-xv8dy]

Isn't it much easier to play maniac mode by giving Soren the Vantage skill and using the critical glitch to forge a thunder tome with 255 crit?

[@cole2901]

Mangs will get it, I know it.

[@chillstoneblakeblast3172]

when the endgame lvl 20 dragons have 41 strength, 51 attack and 36 Defense, you know this isn't Baby Mode as a tip I like to give out: Chapter 5 (The first fog of war one) Steel Lance Titania can shred through the enemies in the south, making it much easier to get an ashera icon and an iron blade. For chapter 9 (The one with the signing pirates), Command the laguz to go to the beach and cross your fingers that Lethe kills the bandit if you want the talisman and restore. a Forged Handaxe with accuracy helps as well. Finally, Give Kieran Bows and Train Astrid: Bow Cavs are the only way you are reliably one rounding lategame wyverns

[@ohandthefracking]

using Astrid in maniac mode requires u to somehow save her on turn 1 cuz she literally gets one-shot on easy mode though....

[@chillstoneblakeblast3172]

@@ohandthefracking Shove ike and Smite with Mordecai. Recruit Turn 1 and Has Ike bein the center of the center ship. Why is this so hard for people to crack?

[@ohandthefracking]

@@chillstoneblakeblast3172 girl its maniac mode we are talking about Astrid barely worth it

[@lucagorosito3715]

​@@ohandthefrackingShe very much isn't thanks to paragon, and bow knights being very useful against lategame wyverns

[@thelastrebel13]

I'm so ready for you to do this egg. Tellius hype!!!! ❤ Side note for you in my experience with manic mode I use mia on all of my runs and she turns into a dodge tank by clash but this is just my exp

[@matiastorres2553]

i lost 2 times in the final chapter :( brom and gatrie are EXELENTS units among with kieran, oscar titania, marcia tanith and jill

[@TheDragonshunter]

Im still hoping for a remake of the 2 games

[@matiastorres2553]

the strategy in clash is stall the siege tomes fast and oscar+ kieran titania+ike supports kills the boss fast

[@nikosafer1]

Path of Radiance Maniac Mode in order to be victorious you need A INSANE among of Luck on Everything

[@NullyBird]

Best of luck Mangs, Proc those Sols and Aethers!

[@JetblackJay]

I thought mangs won this oh no time for another trip to hell

[@matiastorres2553]

USE provoke scroll on brom or gatrie to bait siege tomes + pure waters, they are the only ones who can bait physical weapons and siege tomes at the same time (if u want to go fast), the knight ward is a must in the base to units close to lvl up, and makes ur generals more fast to avoid dodges (brom is god with spd)

[@dddmemaybe]

The provoke skill book on Chapter 20 can be pivotal to place on a high RES unit to soak a ton of the Siege Tomes.

[@TheBelt]

Ashnard is on borrowed time, this is the run.

[@Lauloland]

I thought darkstroyer has done this before? I could be wrong but good luck mangs lol this mode is hard

[@IDESTROYER236]

"Rolling the die to not die." I'll see myself out. Arvis Culo.

[@justbeing-_-7236]

Armor Knights being META!?!? Jill/Haar not being absolute monsters!?! Enemies with Skills!?!? Sounds like Lunatic+ before it existed. Not to mention the sheer amount of units too. But seriously, it’s painful just to listen to an description about the Mode. Good luck 👍

[@esaesaeesaesa]

I'm relatively new to your channel but I've been really enjoying your older ironman vods. Can't wait to watch this one.

[@Serliph]

And here goes Mangs Again into Trying to beat Lunatic Path of Radiance, good Luck!

[@dianapeixoto8936]

as some one ho did beat Maniac Mode studied all Chapters tryed so many Combinations let me Tell you this did work out the best for me just feed Boyd and Oscar lots of exp early on and give Boyd 1 speed wing and a draco shield do that till chaper 11 and watch them destroy the mid game and as you pointed out correctly you have to invest as mutch as possible on all 3 knight Astrid, Kieran,Nepheene for Clash Soren and Ilyana will hang back with the rest and Kill of Chiped Enemys with theyr Sege Tomes and replenish them with a Forge Staff Boyd and the Cavalry will form your second defence line for your weaker support units wile Ike Gatrie cover top side and the other 2 knights move with the rest of the Team to the left and if every thing goes smoth ur gona make it through clash with out losing one unit ....well i almost lost Gatrie

[@samoscamo1]

I love maniac mode iron mans! Mangs first playthrough is what inspired me to play this mode way mode than any functioning adult should. I personally think Clash! and Battle Reunion are more difficult than the final chapter but all 3 are definitely big jumps in difficulty relative to the other maps. I don't want to be redundant with Mangs observations or repeat what Donlot posted but I would add: If you use a stat boosted Jill as your carry unit (which makes a lot of the other late game areas much easier) give her vantage + cancel and at a minimum and all the way to the end game she should have the needed durability to take on 3-4 units every turn and the maneuverability to set up enemy phases so there aren't more than that number on each turn especially if she was given boots. If someone is using Marcia as there carry unit a very similar tactic can be used, with the carry unit having the full guard. I don't know if has already been said but the reasons Jill is somewhat preferable is not only the more obvious access to axes and physical durability, but also because with the high movement and especially with the help of Reyson, it is much easier for Jill to get in range of a siege tome user, eliminate them on player phase, and then tank physical enemies than it is for Marcia to possibly kill a physical enemy and take advantage of her greater magic resistance. I also believe that apart from Aether/Ragnell Ike the best units at the end of the game are Sol equipped male cavs. And since Sol is so powerful when trying to make the game easier always equip axes on the lance/ax combo on Oscar and Kieran and axes on Makalov if he is being used. For Oscar and Makalov especially the final chapters are rife with 1-2 range cavs and wyverns and in the case of wyverns will always be lances or axes. So with hand axes equipped they will tie or have weapon tri-angle advantage with the majority of these units while also having chances to proc Sol with every single attack; rendering them not invincible but pretty close. Not only that but with the added survivability not 1 round KOing is much less of an issue as you can move your cavs far enough away from your main party that your other units shouldn't be in range of attack from the surviving units. Also if you leveled up your Volke there are a lot of opportunities in earlier maps to steal siege tomes and the final chapter especially it can be very nice to have several 10 range get out of jail free cards at your disposal. Unfortunately this game is not all that balanced and if Mangs uses a party of mostly cavs, flyers, and magic units, and steals enough physic staffs I would be pretty suppressed if he is not successful this run since he is honestly a pretty good player; especially for the pace at which he plays.

[@Nightmare2021]

Hi Mangs, good luck for your next attempt! I agree with most of the Video, but I would change one insight regarding glasscannons, at least during my Iron Man attempts, those units were important in lategame Feel free to trashtalk me if you disagree. But I would share a few key insights, which proved to have some consistency for me. From my perspective the difficulty changes dramatically at Chapter 12 (Sea, strong birds everywhere) -> The one-shot risk for Mist, Soren etc. explodes Chapter 18 (Post Serenes, more promoted enemies) -> Glasscannons like Boyd, Zihark , etc cannot fight at the front line anymore, but are still useful for killing single strong units Chapter 23 (Bridge, no more weak enemies) -> Titania and all avg units fall off hard Chapter 26 (Clash, most enemies have high defense) -> Brawlers like Oscar and Keiran fall off, the damage of the glasscannons is now mandatory Don't get me wrong, Oscar and Keiran are great, but starting at chapter 26, you cant rely on em anymore to clean the frontlines, they just fight forever with very few kills. I know you hate glasscannons, but their damage output for the lategame is real. Regarding damage output there is an option. Consider using bows on paladins, handaxes just tickle Wyvern Lords, which start to swarm starting at chapter 24. Handaxes just tickle em, while Bows deal decent damage, but you need to swap weapons alot. (Archer Boyd really shines against Wyverns) Some niche aspects on units: Tanith is the best dodge tank with Oscar support, esp with provoke and miracle (but u need to delete her skill) Boyd with counter and wrath has a nice synergy for 1 vs 1 scenarios Marcia/Jill with boots, adept&guard are great to snipe important units, they don't like to fight for more than 1 turn in enemy territory Soren likes the fighter band early to get the str. to use fire and electro with less punishment Tauroneo with Vantage instead of Wrath, most times he oneshot anyways. But with Vantage, the damage during enemy phase doesn't build up, he is less likely to die. Blessed max Str. Ike with Resolve&Adept can one round Ashnard & Final Dragons, but u get Resolve way too late, while Aethir is great starting at chapter 18. Nice support groups, with great synergy: Marcia(Shadow), Tanith(Provoke), Keiran, Oscar (Carrys for the run, Tanith x Oscar need at least a B support, otherwise she is in grave danger) Muarim, Zihark, Tauroneo and Largo (30 dodge for everyone, +4 Def for Tauroneo and Muarim, +2 Def for Largo,) Rhys, Mist, Boyd, Titania (Damage & Precision supports, if you troll: Rolf also fits here) Callil, Tormod, Nephenee (Backline Support) Makalov, Jill, Astrid, Haar (weaker version of the high mobility carry squad) Maybe one of these insights inspires you to do something new, what helps you to finish this run!

[@tetrexo]

Can't wait for another attempt! Time go get compfy and let Mang's math do its magic.

[@Hebleh]

Don't forget Maurium Mangs! His stats are a force to be reckoned with, use him if you can!

[@Mr.Jim248]

Maniac kinda makes HHM, Hard 5, Lunatic Reverse, Lunatic+, and Maddening look a little pathetic. Then again, I never got the chance to play any of those modes besides Maddening, so I guess I shouldn't be talking.

[@fortniteburger8747]

I’m actually on the final chapter of my POR maniac Ironman (I never recorded it) but I’m too scared to play the final chapter

[@Timmio.]

good luck man!

[@ninjafar]

Good luck bro

[@Aardappelpurree]

Just out of curiosity, do you run this on an emulator? If so, which one would you reccommend? I have an actual copy of Radiant Dawn but it's so buggy due to being a 12 year old CD, I highly doubt buying POR will be worth the time and effort.

[@justinmiller356]

This is a bit unorthodox, i boss abused on hard mode, leveling up Gatrie before he leaves Ike and co, to a lvl 1 general. So when he returns with Astrid, Id have gatrie ready to go. Mangs you could do this but idk if an iron man in this way makes sense. Ive never iron mand before.

[@DrSomers]

Don't neglect Tanith, not only are her stats respectable along with weapon ranks but reinforce is enough reason to field her literally every map.

[@killergeist7]

Not sure if you have already considered it, but your given dragon should be able to solo (in a 1v1 scenario) Ashnard with Wrath&Resolve and some elixiers. Ashnard will focus them because he thinks he can kill them with doubling, but resolve triggers on counter attack, which also negates the 2nd hit due the increased speed in addition of having enough to double yourself with wrath. I cheesed a hard mode draft this way because my ike was basically incappable of hurting ashnard.

[@tespenkr9924]

I'd say this is the Shin Megami Tensei of SRPGs, but Majin Tensei exist.

[@Malcil]

My tips are all the paladins can be good and Luna on your generals can really help clear out a lot of the bulky enemies in later maps. I've beaten it twice non ironman and would recommend Gatrie and Jill as solid units, all the paladins are good especially with Axes or Bows forged late game. Be careful with your money and skills I used Vantage+Guard on Jill for example which was pretty effective. Best of luck.

[@HaoPieldeoso]

Wrath-Resolve Ike and proper calculations will do the trick.

[@kippies66]

Another tip: Manage. Your. Money. Know exactly when and where you'll be getting gold/gems. Plan ahead when buying items. Spend it wisely, don't just buy stuff for the heck of it. Yes, the game is generous with money, but I've seen your spendthrift cause you problems on multiple occasions. Not to mention being out of money when Volke's about to open a chest. At the very least make sure you have enough gold before starting a map loaded with chests.

[@dourflower8792]

I fucking love this game and theres a reason it does so well when you iron man it, its one of the single most thrilling fire emblem experiences to watch someone try to overcome

[@RhydderchZX]

I actually was attempting this on my channel but I never got to finishing it

[@kadley22]

FOCUS MODE, DESTROY THIS GAME

[@NullyBird]

Mangs; about this being a world first, "Panno" has a full upload of a Maniac-mode Ironman playthrough, that was streamed live on Twitch. Are you aware of this?

[@Hone_mor2525]

This time make sure you go Wrath+Resolve Ike no matter what Just git gut on the earliers maps bro

[@dianapeixoto8936]

sure and do 0 damage to berserk ashnard

[@KopperNeoman]

^ You can pivot into Aether on the last chapter if that concerns you. Sunk cost fallacy is a fallacy.

[@dianapeixoto8936]

no put resolve on your Fastest Unit and lock Ashnard with that unit and Ike Tibarn in and prevent him from moving @@KopperNeoman

[@bropup]

I’ve done it, after many, many tries. It was tough but very rewarding, It was one of my favorite Ironman experiences.

[@TwiIsInsane]

As someone who has cleared an ironman of FE : POR on maniac (which took me many attempts). I will say that it is extremely Enemy phase intensive but in the late game, player phase becomes equally important since you need to make the most of it. Dondon gave some pretty good tips (especially the bow paladin one). I'll add a few of my own : - Boyd isn't as useless as you might think, sure his bulk isn't good on maniac but he makes stellar use of bows on promo, in fact he is one of the few units who has reliable hit rate on the fast units in maniac and he is one of the few units able to ORKO wyvernlords with a regular silver bow in the endgame chapters, he shouldn't be slept on. - Makalov is worth raising, he is a pain to train because of swords and bad initial skill BUT once he is there, supporting him with Astrid turns them into Oscar/Kieran 2.0. Giving him skill books to make his training easier is a good idea. - Mist should be trained, this is high risk but the fact that she can use the sonic sword to ORKO wyvernlords is HUGE in the lategame (So save armscrolls for her otherwise the grinding is painful). - Rhys is genuinely not bad since he is the only Purge user in the game which can come in handy especially on Clash ! He is also amazing with status staves. - In Chapter 21 (Ena chapter) you can steal a SLEEP from the bishop in the middle of the map (try to set it up seriously) it is amazing to have another one for Clash ! Also you can steal a METEOR, in the upper right room, a sage has one unequipped, it is hard to setup though as a general blocks the way and the sage will equip it the next turn so plan accordingly. - You may want to give Soren an energy drop, I know it sounds memey but if he never levels up STR he will get weighted down by the better wind tomes which really really sucks as he does a lot damage to the super bulky maniac enemies (especially these paladins...fuck em...) - Try to favour Oscar and/or Boyd in the early game, if you can promote either of them around level 18 for the 2nd boat chapter, they will make it a lot easier and you want a good boat chapter since it has many chests with good items. - Buy a LOT of pure waters. - Silver forges are really good since they allow your units to ORKO units on maniac (except wyvernlords) but they cost an arm to forge so try to be a bit conservative with your money to afford them later (Finally a fire emblem where you have to think about your money in the late game). - And since I know you are Mangs, try to maintain Reyson alive at all costs :) I wish you good luck and I hope you'll succeed !

[@guyscarabaggio6921]

You know he’s set himself up to lose Mist and Jill super early on by making this

[@unfortunatefan6417]

Give Ike a gun he’ll mow thru everything with that

[@rustcopperfield9175]

You're not gonna beat it because you're not trying to beat it effectively, you're trying to beat it in an entertaining way, meaning you won't use strats like wrath/resolve Ike, meaning you are more liable to fail.

[@KopperNeoman]

We all know from Advance Wars that 🥚 is good at strategy.

[@TheAdorelis]

Facts

[@raho500]

well he already anounced and justified how he is gonna approach the run and on which units he focuses.

[@nightcloud2014]

Or infinite crit thunder/slim weapons.

[@raho500]

@@nightcloud2014 you forgot vantage

[@brademix]

I believe! The last run was super entertaining watch

[@xHeigoux]

last chapter on maniac is insane. had 2 paladins tank the flanks and Ike's aether + like 3 physic staves carried me. I think my Ike didn't even have aether when I first played this game on hard and I still managed to do it. But not on maniac lol.

[@ShosuCeladon]

Dude... the difficulty makes it less like an Ironman run and more like a Steelman run.

[@aidanhendricksen4832]

Path of Radiance was my first FE game and I love it

[@MrMarket1987]

Having read about the absolutely agonizing tediousness of Maniac that wasn't even all that popular or liked by the Japanese (or so I've seen claimed) due to making an already slow game even slower with an absurd amount of HP sponges, I can only hope you find fun among the insanity that this is gonna be putting you through. Maniac earns its name well.

[@justinianthe1st790]

I havent even played POR but Ill see this hard ass journey through with you! You got this egg!

[@PaperAssassin26]

Hard Mode becomes Kid Mode when you play with Maniac Mode

[@josephgarcia8209]

Practice the final map on one of your old save states so you have a plan. Good luck Mangs!

[@SilentVinyl]

Which is more fair maniac, lunatic reverse or lunatic+?

[@PrincessRinsicles]

This will always be my favourite ironman(s) of yours to watch, and I'd love to see you succeed. Good luck, decearing egg.

[@FE9Data]

Glitchless I assume. Being able to train way more with glitches, get infinite seraph robes, and crit forge thunder tomes on vantage Sages makes the game too easy. Good luck with this, I'll be watching!!

[@chillstoneblakeblast3172]

Glitchless for sure. 100 Crit weapons are no fun

[@Mangs1337]

Yeah I aint no glitcher.

[@FE9Data]

based@@Mangs1337

[@user-yb3iw5dg3r]

Hi Mangs Wishing you the best rng this run Question? Are you considering boss abuse to get by? That will be a big game changer. I know the best locations. You start early as chapter 6 I recommend using Tanith since she has earth affinity with Oscar, which can help dodge tanking enemies(especially siege tomb). Also you can use her reinforcements to lure out enemies. Also, if weapon durability is an issue. I suggest limiting forging weapons

[@shigurenoame9591]

Im excited to see it good luck Mangs and i hope you will success in this iron man of Path of Radiance! 👍

[@portalguy2246]

“Why this mode is so difficult” can be summed up as, you are outnumbered 10000:1

[@NanayaRay01]

War is hell

[@portalguy2246]

@@NanayaRay01 War isn't Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse.

[@KopperNeoman]

@portalguy2246 I dunno, an eternity without the Lord sounds pretty shit.

[@portalguy2246]

@@KopperNeoman it’s a quote from M*A*S*H

[@lordofoshu8017]

Ive beaten Hard mode, Easy mode, Normal Mode of PoR and RD but this mode, this mode scares me. Even when I cheated and boosted my characters with stat mods, they STILL killed many of them. Since I dont like losing them, I reset A LOT over it. Just goes to show ya. Even Cheaters can be out cheated.

[@deoxsus6972]

You should prioritize Gatrie over Brom. Gatrie rejoins you only two chapters after Brom, and will be much stronger, if you gave him levels in the early game.

[@chillstoneblakeblast3172]

I'll say Giving Gatrie earlygame kills is really good, as in his join chapter, he can get one rounded by mages and a speed or res level saves him

[@coffe7771]

Hopefully mangs can do it he beat Lunatic Conquest after all

[@ma.2099]

Can’t wait. Mangs, you are the most entertaining FE. But watching Donlot and Mekkah play is something else. Hope you can win where they haven’t