Michael Knowles DEBUNKS Christopher Hitchens Viral Moments

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Of all the faces of the new atheist movement, Christopher Hitchens was Michael's favorite. Hitchens debate clips still get millions of views each year, so Michael Knowles will debunk some of the most viral Christopher Hitchens moments.
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[@ytp9457]

Hey Michael can you do more pro-Christianity videos? Your ability to articulate arguments that defend the Bible and faith in God is quite refreshing compared to the mostly negative political commentary we usually hear about on the dailywire and the MSM at large.

[@HughJorgan1]

That’s funny because I wish Knowles and all the DW hosts did far LESS videos on their religious beliefs.

[@historian9484]

@@HughJorgan1 that is absolutely incorrect.I think Ben killed it when he participated in the exodus series.He was more knowledgeable than all the scholars in the round table discussion.Believe me when I say that .I have been studying Old Testament now for 15 years.I think here Michael exposed Hitchens lies which is good because Hitchens manipulated the mass with his journalistic abilities not by facts.He took things out of context and intimidated his opponent than providing solid reasons for his atheistic position

[@HughJorgan1]

@@historian9484lol! It’s hilarious people say Hitchens “lied” yet also think their belief in fictional Gods (pick one) is based on truth. All Hitchens did was point out the major flaws in religion’s belief systems. Hate to break it to you my friend but the Old Testament is a book of lies, contradictions, hate, and ridiculous fictional stories. Even Einstein (who believed in the Christian God) famously wrote that taking everything in the Bible literally is “childish and naive”. This was the foundation for most of Hitchens’ arguments. Knowles lost all credibility when he referred to the Bible for evidence. It’s like referring to Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings trilogy for evidence of past civilizations.

[@spaceman6029]

as an atheist, id also like to see more catholic based content. i dont really like this video cause idt these moments were anywhere near hitchens most compelling arguements, but michael is exceptionally articulate and thorough when hes talking about religion (or anything else for that matter). its rare to find someone that represents religion so well

[@archie8767]

@@spaceman6029 Dominicans are typically really good.

[@ajossi]

If Michael had been born in iraq of Afghanistan he'd be a Muslim.

[@rami3283]

There are Christians in both of these countries

[@arze868]

If Hitchens would've been brought up in Sweden he'd be an atheist.

[@Dycdom]

He Hitch slapped him self… omg this is great 😅

[@BillyMurray-hw2vz]

People in the comments are refuting Hitchens points, nobody's refuting Michael's points

[@Lenny_Clarfe]

This is hilarious, it's like Knowles is playing chess by himself, is secretly rooting for the white pieces and ends up in check-mate by the black pieces.

[@DejiAdegbite]

I've watched the video to the end and still waiting for the part where you debunk Hitchens.

[@richardabia9735]

Watch it again and LISTEN this time.

[@OGoutbackgames]

Literally the first point in the video. You watched the video to confirm what you already believe to be true though. Try objectivity this time.

[@tiromandal6399]

​@@OGoutbackgames Facts don't care about your feelings. The voices inside your head is not some higher power speaking to you but is a sign of your brain failing. Get over it.

[@tomgreenleaf1918]

@@OGoutbackgamesLmao. "Try objectivity"? Your core value is faith. That's literally the exact opposite of objectivity. You also worship the Jews and think blacks are our equals.

[@carnivalwholesale9809]

@@OGoutbackgames I have not seen Michael Knowles get a nobel prize or call Matt Dillahunty or JImmy Snow on their show EITHER.

[@blizzy6392]

I followed Christopher around the time that he died and found him charming. Part of the Hitchens family story is that he has a younger brother, Peter, who is the other bookend. Michael, I suggest that you make an overview of Peter Hitchens, or organize an interview with him.

[@toni4729]

Why, do you want them to become lovers?

[@krezleon942]

Imagine debating pre recorded videos of a dead man, and losing

[@TestTest-me8zt]

How did he lose?

[@BlackedOutDreams]

@@TestTest-me8zthe didnt. These libs are pathetic 😂

[@jdaquin6138]

Nicely worded mate, hitch would be proud. What would be worth watching is a Hitchens’ commentary on this video, or an outright debate. I miss that guy. Knowles is insanely condescending and here saying that only kids could believe what hitch is saying when it couldn’t be more the opposite. Cheers mate.

[@tonyfrost6348]

For f*ck's sake, Michael Knowles taking on Christopher Hitchens is like Mickey Rooney taking on Einstein.

[@christafarion9]

Maybe also like David and Goliath? How'd that one turn out?

[@tonyfrost6348]

@@christafarion9 David and Goliath - yes, that really happened. I’m guessing you believe in all manner of myths and fairy-tales and supernatural garbage (…like “God”, and “Heaven”, and people being resurrected).

[@christafarion9]

@tonyfrost6348 in turn I'm guessing you reject every last one as fairy tale. Especially the ones where there are the most written manuscripts, such as the new testament. That's your boogy man: The sheer unending volumes of new testament manuscripts. More than pretty much any other document.

[@tonyfrost6348]

@@christafarion9 “The most written manuscripts” - what does that even mean? You’re just talking rubbish! So all those dodgy miracles, people walking on water, coming back from the dead and ascending skywards, you buy all that nonsense hook, line, and sinker, do you? You’re either stupid, or brainwashed, or both.

[@Rydonittelo]

I was a Christopher Hitchens through my late teens and 20s. I was the obnoxious drunk at the party who made fun of religious people and came across as quite intelligent because I was witty and well spoken , I'm also Scottish which can kind of give that impression. I absolutely agree that when I think back to then it makes me curle up with embarrassment. For one I knew nothing about Christianity, I knew nothing about what Christians actually believed and making the decision to actually read the bible for myself about 3 years ago I learned fairly quickly that I was way off in my militant atheism. Over about 6 months the idea of a creator entering their creation to fix it didn't seem that farfetched to me when you understand what is actually being explained.

[@Hatsimmale]

Peter 2:18, Saint Peter writes "Slaves, be subject to your masters with all reverence, not only to those who are good and equitable but also to those who are perverse.

[@cisuminocisumino3250]

​​​@@Hatsimmale You've left out cultural context when citing that passage. In the ancient world there were different types of slavery including the employer and employee relationship. You can look up the history on this just in case you think I'm presenting a sales pitch here. there were more than 5 types of slavery.The servitude/slavery his referring to is not the western chattel slavery where people were treated like they are subhuman. The scriptures below can give you more context; 1 Timothy 1:10 "for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, *for slave traders* and liars and perjurers-and for *whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine* " Colossians 4:1 "Masters, *provide your slaves with what is right and fair,* because you know that you also have a Master in heaven." Ephesians 6:9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. *Do not threaten them,* since *you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.* Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

[@Greywolf-91]

Trust me, being Scottish was more of a handicap to you when it comes to sounding intelligent.

[@Dakotako]

😂 I wouldn’t beat yourself up over that because even the Scottish have a hard time understanding a drunk Scotsman and the rest of us can barely understand y’all sober.

[@Rydonittelo]

@@Greywolf-91 You think people like Ewan McGregor sounds unintelligent? What about the man who built Jurassic Park? Professor Mcgonaggle? James Bond? Mrs Doubtfire? Merlin from Kingsmen? I'm a very well spoken Scotsman, were cast in these types of roles all the time. The term " great Scot" comes from the outrageous amounts of Scottish scientists and inventors. I can forgive your ignorance if your an American and thought of ground keeper Willie or Shrek first. Although I'm sure now when you think about the Scottish accent is usually associated with characters in positions of authority . That was my point.

[@Cathtradgroyper]

as a Calvinist, Michael is my favorite Catholic

[@daven8905]

Same lol

[@EphemeralOnlooker]

Islam is the only truth. May Allah guide you.

[@jaja9081]

what i dont understand about all the prostestand sekts, why dont you belief what Jesus said in Mt16:18-19 _"And I tell you that you are Peter (means = "rock"), and on THIS rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it. I will give YOU the keys of the kingdom of heaven. Whatever YOU bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever YOU loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”_ because that church is known as the catholic church that is also (not only) build litarly on St. Peter (the Saint Peters Basilika) but also was the last bastion against hades (islaam) that was never conquered but stopped them by the crusades spanking them hard. and to the muslm comment "Islam is the only truth"... well, no! read quran sura 69:38-52 where muhammad who could not perform any miracle tryed to justify himself saying: _"if i am a liar/false prophet, god have to cut my aorta by my right hand"_ and that happens to him... a LAMB (of god(?)) that was serverd to him by a captive juwish woman (right hand of a man as the quran quote them) that he took with his right hand to his mouth CUT his aorta and during his suffer to de4th he USED TO SAY, that it was the morsel from the LAMB that CUT his arota. so God by the LAMB (of god/judge of all mankind) judged him exactly as he said how god HAVE to judge him when he is a liar because the ppl asked him over and over again to perform a miracle to proof himself be a true prophet but he could NOT. fear god and leave islaam, before it is to late.

[@EphemeralOnlooker]

@@cactusmalone Jesus can not be God if God is greater than him. We respect all people of all religious backgrounds. May Allah guide you.

[@bloocifer]

​@@EphemeralOnlooker Mohammed married a 6 year old girl and murdered 500 Jews

[@Sacaarson]

Funny that Michael calls Hitchens childish and angsty teenager when even his debating opponents called him formidable.

[@alantinoalantonio]

WLC destroyed him and called Hitchens emotional and uneducated in his arguments. Hitchens and the former "horsemen" didn't even know the basics of Christianity. Emotional nonsense.

[@Sacaarson]

​@@alantinoalantonio They disagreed with classical religious interpretations. That doesn't mean that they didn't know the basic of Christianity.

[@nakkadu]

​@@alantinoalantonioWLC could only destroy him if he demonstrated that Christianity is true....did he do that?

[@pomegranatepip2482]

@@alantinoalantonio WLC destroyed Hitchens only in his dreams. And how apt that you speak of emotional nonsense and WLC in the same comment.

[@pomegranatepip2482]

@@nakkadu No - he didn't. The only place WLC destroys Hitchens is in his dreams.

[@germanfool4222]

Hitchens was a person i aspire to be. Intelligent, humorous, both ruthless and yet a gentleman. As sharpe as Occam's razor. We need him now more than ever. If you religous people are right than I cant wait to see him in hell.

[@paramaniacwolverine843]

You won't see Hitchens in Hell, you will be totally alone. Yes you will be aware of others, but it will be a hellish place of torment for eternity, and endless feeling of falling while the heat burns your body. This wasn't created for man, but for Satan and his demons, and so far Satan seems to be winning in deceiving another lost soul. Nothing can be done for Hitchens, but you still have time to seek Christ, and hopefully the scales of deception will fall from your eyes.

[@germanfool4222]

@@paramaniacwolverine843 my friend, I'm at peace with the notion that once I die it's just avoid there's nothing but darkness a total void. There isn't any strong enough evidence to convince me that there is a God worthy of praise. Or one that shows even an ounce of mercy to his creations. We are born sick and command to be well. A cruel and sadistic life, always failing always a disappointment.

[@paramaniacwolverine843]

@@germanfool4222 My friend, you haven't studied the evidence, and that is something only you will be able to do. No one, including God can force you to do that. We can only give warning that there's danger on the horizon. You are doing your eternal salvation a great dis-service by being uninformed about your soul's final destination. Once you cross from this life into eternity, there is no 'do over'

[@celestethisandthat8887]

I was an Atheists as well and it was actually Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris brought me back to God. I started watching their videos and because I wanted to verify what they were saying, I started reading scripture and talking with theologists and because of this, I found God again.

[@kurooaisu]

Well that was weird... but congratulations, nonetheless

[@celestethisandthat8887]

@@kurooaisu why weird?

[@kurooaisu]

@@celestethisandthat8887 Weird, but the cool kind of weird you know what, nevermind

[@celestethisandthat8887]

@@kurooaisu I get you.

[@marvalice3455]

Hurray!

[@yesdear6904]

I found Hitchens in my early 40s. I love you man but you’re misrepresenting what he’s saying

[@colehensley7844]

It’s easy to “debunk” something that your entire audience believes in and reinforces, especially when Christoper is no longer around to rebuttal.

[@ethandorf5828]

And most importantly all of Knowles “arguments” were sooo bad and nothing-saying

[@sambakich7494]

Hitchens was glib, I'll give him that. But not terribly intelligent.

[@KevinSmile]

The lack of self-awareness in this comment is so funny. Every atheist and their mother behaves in this fashion.

[@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407]

Interesting. “Well, Hitch, it’s easy to debunk Christianity, especially when Christ {as you say} is no longer around to rebut the arguments that you feed to your unthinking lapdogs.”

[@jhonjacson798]

​@@blackgateboxingxuanmenquan6407he's debunking the person he was debating.. chris is debunking Christianity not Jesus.

[@TravelCostaRicaNOW]

I liked Hitchens then and I still listen to him from time to time now. Never heard Hitch compared to a 13-year old. Actually, pretty disrespectful in my opinion. Lots of boot licking in these comments. So Michael, feel the same about Dawkins and Harris? Debate the living not the dead.

[@phrikaphrak40k]

Having been an athiest, then satanist, then pagan for a little over a decade and a half, I can definitively say that what the Catholic Church teaches about human nature, in light of Scripture and Tradition is incredibly true. Im glad (to put it mildly) that God would deign to pull me up out of that. I try and thank Him everytime i remember that truth.

[@PrinceAsmodeus]

You sound lost

[@Ash_Queen16]

@@PrinceAsmodeusLmao sure

[@rokasdobrovolskis]

@@PrinceAsmodeus Lost and found!

[@NoSoupForYouu]

@@PrinceAsmodeus How many comments have you replied to militant atheist? Do you not see yourself in the mirror? You are a religious zealot

[@bradthompson5383]

The bible is a book of pure evil. you literally worship a demonic psychopath that engages in genital mutilation, genocide, and eternal torture. Those are the deeds of pure evil.

[@michaelyakiwchuk43]

My start at being a better and much more knowledgeable Catholic started in high school, particularly with one of my closest friends, and he still is, but in high school we got into BIG arguments over religion. He’s quoting Hitchens and all that, and sometimes I didn’t know what to say because I just didn’t know the proper facts yet. He tells me to look up a website called “the thinking atheist” and tell him my thoughts. So I read through these points made on this site, then I take out my Bible and look up those passages being criticized, and it was just baffling. The website either willfully avoided deeper understanding of the events and expressed intent of the Bible, or the website simply LIED about what was in it. That’s when I really started to understand that those atheist “scholars” were just the worst types of publicly accepted scholars, who didn’t have to research what their trying to disagree with, and got lots of money for doing the bare minimum of philosophy. And on top of that, pretty much every theological question atheists have were already discussed and answered hundreds, even over a thousand years before the were born.

[@ginjordom6065]

Yeah,my eyes roll every time they start dissecting the Old Testament verses haha.

[@bradthompson5383]

Yet the Bible is still evil. The bible is a book of pure evil. you literally worship a demonic psychopath that engages in genital mutilation, genocide, and eternal torture. Those are the deeds of pure evil.

[@marvalice3455]

Atheists have nothing new. They _never_ have anything new.

[@Homo_sAPEien]

You can’t debate him when the dude is dead. If he was still alive and able to respond, you would stand no chance.

[@callofsuccess7960]

Here say. You have no way to prove that. And nothing Michael said was inaccurate. The church has done some evils, but more than not they are a net good for the world. 800,000+ Jews. Argue with history. And may God bless you

[@MrE073]

Exactly, knowles is trash 😂

[@MrE073]

@@lkei6731 lmao how is it an objective truth? Are you really this scared of the truth? 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@billygoat5302]

I guess we can't prove that Hitler was wrong.

[@PurpleFiiilth]

@@lkei6731maybe god exists but not your god, theres tons of religions all with their own version of god thinking they are right and everyone else is wrong. Simple math dictates 99.99% of you are wrong

[@holdmyhalo6752]

Hitchens was amazing. Bold, articulate, and clever. I started watching Hitchens as an agnostic, and left an atheist. An amazing gift of freedom from fairytales and guilt.

[@ChristopherHitchens3.14]

Exactly, bunch of straw man fallacy arguments made in an effort to "debunk" CH, it was an utter failure by Michael Knowles.

[@nextop81]

Christopher Hitchens has a brother who is a Christian and has his own ministry, it would be an absolute delight, if you interviewed him

[@bradthompson5383]

Peter is a lying coward that defends genital mutilation just like all evil Christians do.

[@Fnelrbnef]

He is thick as brick.

[@electricspark5271]

​@@Fnelrbnef why? Because you are angsty atheist?

[@DerekJohn]

That is insanely interesting actually

[@bradthompson5383]

@@electricspark5271 No, because Peter Hitchens justifies brutalizing male children sexually via circumcision, a literal chipd sexual torture blood ritual.

[@GranMaese]

17:31 If pictures could speak... One can tell by that face he was deep down miserable, and he knew it himself, but refused to accept it, a man hiding the pain the best he could [«hide the pain Harold» would be proud]. You could also tell by some of the other pictures too, but this one is just crystal clear.

[@GermaineGill]

This is what Hitchens tried to combat 😂 5:15

[@Vegeta-4101]

I'm agnostic but enjoy the debates between Atheists and Theists. I would love to see Knowles actually sit down with Dillahunty and go through some of these.

[@Raziel236]

So he's against the mutilation of children's genitalia, ooh, he'd do well now..

[@Raziel236]

@Hostmann Socrates Call me shallow, but I think you can tell a lot of a man's intellect from a 10 minute video, and I've seen enough to think I'm not interested in his insights, particularly into the political field which is arguably immediately more complex and less abstract.

[@Dayz3O6]

​@@Raziel236 yes you are shallow and egotistic thinking a 10min video of him is enough to paint to whole picture of the man. The hubris.

[@Ash_Queen16]

@@hostmannsocrates4703He vehemently supported the Iraq War and I think it affected his relationship with his brother who was against it. That wasn’t based

[@Ash_Queen16]

@@cactusmalone I’m not talking about conservatives, I’m talking about Hitchens who acts like Atheists know better than religious people.

[@Ash_Queen16]

@@cactusmalone I wasn’t talking about conservatives I was responding to a comment. Don’t make something that it’s not

[@josh10722]

I never thought i would leave being a teenage Atheist who loved Hitchens and Dawkins to have grown up to become a Catholic, but here i am looking back in astonishment

[@barbaramayer5182]

Josh, please read “The Two Babylon’s “ and “ Foxes Book of Martyrs” .

[@DigitalLogos]

Same here brother. Praise God

[@jinlee1239]

I dont think most people like Hitchens have problems with a higher something. But twith religion which is nothing kore than an ideology based upon nothing but man-made fantasy

[@NoSoupForYouu]

God's mercy and benevolence are incredible. Glad you're back home in the true Church

[@cnreidy]

What happened to you or what answers did you get, that you realised Catholicism was the right path over Atheism ?

[@hamfastgamgee706]

Willingly submitting to a wholly legitimate authority is not slavery. And only humans could be “authoritarian”, that is, wielding arbitrary and illegitimate authority, over other human beings.

[@grunttwice2006]

Who would have thought we would live to see Hitchens win a debate from beyond the grave?

[@davelop5507]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@harp167]

Yes. I love Micheal, but seeing his portrayal of religion is really lowering my opinion of him.

[@janbuyck1]

Yes, Hitchens will always win a debate on atheism from the grave

[@richyaxl1151]

​@@janbuyck1nah.

[@TheMykr0]

The Lord works in mysterious ways lol

[@edeancozzens3833]

Poor Hitchens selectively takes things from the Bible and builds straw men and then attacks the straw man that he created. Paul to Titus wrote, "To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled."

[@saernst]

At least he was arguing with people who were there. Michael is taking clips and arguing against those, it’s a hollow man, and he still comes across poorly.

[@lordofthered1257]

​@@saernst Yeah we can never talk about a persons arguements if they aren't there in person. So don't go around criticizing Thomas Aquinus.

[@MrTheclevercat]

So because Paul wrote to Titus that the unbelievers are defiled that makes it true because......? You guys are insane.

[@lordofthered1257]

@@MrTheclevercat Right. You completely missed the point. Which makes sense as thats all aithiests do.

[@machriskily8372]

@@MrTheclevercat ...atheists like Mao Zedong and Josef Stalin, the greatest killers of humanity, proved Paul's point. You're insane for lacking ethics.

[@leslieleslie6590]

I had no idea Michael Knowles was a Atheist for 10 years. Wow. What about doing a complete 180!

[@Restorationshopyt]

How do you follow him and listen to him and not know that?

[@waltermh111]

He has talked about it a few times when doing these videos, but its not too unusual. I was also a young person, thinking I knew it all. Thinking I was being the intellectual by being against religion. I even thought I was liberal back then, because "reality has a liberal bias" and therefore that must be the right path because it was the smart one. I was so naive, so inexperienced in the world, thinking myself invincible also. I grew, sadly its tough in this cultural climate so it wasnt until my 30s that I finally slowly started to wake up by constantly asking questions and refining what was important in life, as I matured.

[@viperstriker4728]

Most outspoken Christians were not raised Christian. People that were raised in Christianity take it for granted (speaking from personal experience of doing just that), but those that lived in a messed up moral system realize how special it is when they found a good moral system.

[@bradthompson5383]

Yeah, talk about losing your mind. The bible is a book of pure evil. you literally worship a demonic psychopath that engages in genital mutilation, genocide, and eternal torture. Those are the deeds of pure evil.

[@jakesullivan9179]

​@waltermh111 I was atheist like for a year or so, but when my grandmother passed away, it all changed. Being a pallbearer and feeling as if she was watching us from above changed me. I remember when my family visited her grave and my Dad (she was his mother in law and they constantly would give each other shit both being funny) jokingly said how it was poetic that bird shit was on her grave. I swear it was like a universal thought from the heavens (that everyone in the family got and felt) responded back to his comments with f you. That was the moment that hammered my faith down.

[@euphegenia]

Knowles sure has the courage to debate a dead man who would certainly mop the floor with him if he was alive.

[@fancyinthehouse9423]

What things were wrong with the arguments he presented?

[@timreilly6081]

@@fancyinthehouse9423nothing, these atheist are coping😂😂

[@JvSalinger]

500 people? Did you really just try to sell us that nonsense? WHAT 500 people?

[@nataliej.3579]

Ask the numerous historical accounts that give that number

[@JvSalinger]

@@nataliej.3579 I am. That's sorta the point. And I'm not concerned with appeals to authority. Especially unnamed ones.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

@@nataliej.3579none of them tell you anything. There were no contemporary Witnesses accounts aside from what they claimed after the fact

[@camiloalonso3709]

I recently saw him debate Wiliam Lane Craig, Mr Craig mopped the floor with him, almost literally made him cry, and yet the comments were all pro-Hitchens. Atheists close-minded af

[@switzerlandful]

Christopher Hitchens wasn't very fond of religion in general. I think when he was young, his mom may have run off with a former priest and both committed suicide in some pact or something. That probably explains his bias against the Catholic church or theistic religions in general and explains why he was a bit flawed & lazy in his criticism of parts of the Bible.

[@night6724]

Hitchens fans project their cult behavior onto religious people

[@Restorationshopyt]

Are you kidding? William Lane Craig is a pompous fool, and that debate, while I would concede was not Hitchens’ best performance, was still very much a poor showing all around for the fragile, emotionally reactive Craig.

[@MrH103]

Some Atheists are just as blind and stupid as religious fanatics.

[@arze868]

​@@Restorationshopyt stfu craig destroyed him

[@strawman6085]

Hitchens was all sizzle and no steak.

[@Elrond_Hubbard_1]

I discovered Bigfoot in the woods yesterday. Turns out he speaks English, so we had a conversation about Hegelian philosophy. 5,000 people witnessed this conversation take place. They're all dead now though, so you can't ask any of them, but I wrote it down in this book so there's no way it's not true.

[@----.__]

I believe you. Even if you don't have tangible proof beyond a picture you drew of it, and "witness" statements written by the local drunks, I think what you're saying is 100% correct. In fact I'm going to devote my life to this Bigfoot you speak of, because without Bigfoot, how else would the universe exist? Of course I'll have to overlook the billions of years of provable history of this planet in order to believe Bigfoot made this planet with glue and macaroni just last week, but Bigfoot made a sacrifice and so will I. Bigfoots 4;20-69 - _"Do out though unto others as thou ought not thought unto thou not thus the though thou thy"_

[@Ithaca-vv5dy]

I have faith!

[@nakkadu]

I hope you didn't write about it until 40 years after it happened otherwise I won't believe you

[@ahambrahmas]

Yea, I'll only believe it when it's written about a century from now. Nice try!

[@Ithaca-vv5dy]

@@nakkadu lmao! Exactly

[@Deadman1000]

Imagine trying to debate a man who passed away 10 years ago and still lose? 😂

[@JohnGramer06]

He lost because you agreed with Hitchens before watching the video.

[@Deadman1000]

@@JohnGramer06 or Hitchens spoke about ignorant people like Knowles who just assert their claims and never have any proof beyond faith which means nothing

[@foechicken8023rileylastname]

When you tell a humanist that they are taling this or that out of context they always pull the "I've read the whole bible more than once!" and you know its a lie.

[@Restorationshopyt]

You don’t need to read the bible AT ALL to thoroughly debunk the nonsense that is ALL forms of organized relief and belief in a higher power.

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

In my experience the people who believe in god the "hardest" are the ones who have never actually read the bible. I was like that, and then you read what is ACTUALLY in the bible with your own eyes and not what some Pastor tells you it says, and then you quickly realize how ridiculous it is.

[@bradthompson5383]

@@djjazzyjeff1232 Yep. It's the most evil book ever written. The bible is a book of pure evil. you literally worship a demonic psychopath that engages in genital mutilation, genocide, and eternal torture. Those are the deeds of pure evil.

[@BolverkrLimited]

​@@djjazzyjeff1232 Is there a specific verse you are having trouble with? It's a bit much to take the whole text and try to walk you through it. For starters, it helps to understand that God created man, not man who created God. Next, while you read scripture, understand that it is the inspired word of God... the same one who created EVERYTHING. Perspective is very important.

[@foechicken8023rileylastname]

@@djjazzyjeff1232 and? As a believer, I read daily.

[@ryanbailey5709]

"It is the wish to be a slave." Hitchens echoes Nietzsche here.

[@TheDash35]

Micheal, why don't you debate someone still alive like Matt Dillahunty? I would love to see it.

[@nakkadu]

Lol Matt would eat him for breakfast 😄

[@wft15]

Or Richard Dawkins - the man’s 82 and could obliterate him.

[@Dylan_Devine]

Trent Horn demolished all of Dillahunty's arguments

[@bryanwirthlin4444]

Anyone but Dillahunty. The man is insufferably smug. Cosmic skeptic would be great.

[@storiesofnotes4059]

@@bryanwirthlin4444Yes. I think his philosophy is actually quite good but his character during debates just gets in the way of me enjoying his work. He can be really obnoxious sometimes.

[@AskZch]

I'll try to keep it brief and just touch on each segment quickly. Intro: Logical Fallacies: Appeal to Authority, Ad Hominem. - Personal opinions about Hitchens' style and charisma don't really address the strength of his arguments. The Resurrection: Logical Fallacies: Appeal to Popularity, False Analogy. - Eyewitness accounts from ancient texts aren't necessarily reliable evidence for supernatural events. Religion: Logical Fallacies: Straw Man, Appeal to Tradition. - Misinterpreting or selectively quoting religious texts doesn't change the fact that religion has often been used to justify violence. Violence: Logical Fallacies: False Equivalence, Red Herring. - Comparing scientific endeavors with ideological doctrines is misleading; science is a method, not a belief system with moral imperatives. Slavery: Logical Fallacies: False Dichotomy, Appeal to Consequences. - Framing religious submission as true freedom ignores the secular view that values autonomy and critical thinking over following doctrines. The Church: Logical Fallacies: Cherry Picking, Appeal to Emotion. - Highlighting the Church's positive actions doesn't fully address the documented cases of complicity with Nazi authorities. General Critique of Michael's Points and His "Proof in the Pudding": Logical Fallacies: Ad Hominem, Appeal to Tradition. - Criticizing atheism based on a perceived shallow understanding overlooks the substantial philosophical and ethical arguments that atheists present.

[@ratatoskr9366]

Him calling God's teachings authoritarian, is like a 5 year old child calling her father a tyrant because he wouldn't give her any ice cream.

[@Greywolf-91]

Hahaha! That’s actually not a bad analogy.

[@waltermh111]

Yeah, nearly every restriction on humans is to deter them from bad paths. But I have a feeling Hitchens is of the belief that there is no bad path or that it should be not only your choice to go down a bad path, but that anybody who intervenes to persuade you otherwise is a dictator.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

Everything makes more since when you look at God as the Father. A good father will teach you to not play in the street, even though you (a child without understanding) like Playing in the street because it's a fun place to bounce your ball

[@lempereur7503]

Except good fathers don't calling for dashing babies' heads on stones

[@waltermh111]

@lempereur7503 you are taking that out of context if it's the book I am thinking about.

[@IM-tl7qv]

Christopher Hitchens and Richard Dawkins are bread and butter for Catholic and Christian apologists because they have a very big reputation but very little substance and very poor quality. What Michael said in his introduction is EXACTLY my experience, I was an atheist fan of Hitchens in my teens and became Christian at 19 ish then Catholic at 22. In hindsight, it doesn't hit the same and is extremely poor, not to mention he makes so many factual errors too, particularly in regard to the Church.

[@switzerlandful]

Christopher Hitchens comes off as a very witty and intelligent critic but most of his criticisms of the Bible or Christianity that I've heard have been very lazy and unprepared. Not saying he was incapable of bringing good arguments but he just didn't seem to care about being really deep and honest about it.

[@switzerlandful]

However, I do kind of feel for him. I heard his mother hooked up with some former priest and for some reason committed suicide in a pact or something. I have to wonder if this fueled his disdain or hatred of belief in God, the Bible or Christianity. I also heard that Christopher was against abortion which was interesting.

[@TheFluffyDuck]

Phew, I came here thinking Hitchens greatest points would be debunked and I am pleasantly surprised that still isn’t the case.

[@bshows89]

What a relief, right?

[@user-vt4hd8hb4v]

@@CaptainDarrick by whom?

[@freddan6fly]

@@CaptainDarrick "Hitchens was debunked decades ago ...where have you been ?" - ROFLMAO. How? By who? What arguments? What is the scientific evidence for a god?

[@user-vt4hd8hb4v]

@@CaptainDarrick I don't think there's such a thing as a WISE collection of INTERNET souls. I assume you're talking about popular belief within theology and individual theists that refuse Hitchens' arguments not debunk them. Otherwise please provide me with some of the counter-arguments and debunkings by those wise souls.

[@freddan6fly]

@@CaptainDarrick "Fool . What could scientific evidence for a spiritual/non-scientific being even be?" - Agreed. You are a fool believing something as childish as the Easter Bunny without evidence. Ask yourself why you believe.

[@kotoamatsukami_5832]

Infantile arguments. Stick to what you do best, debating SJWs on campuses.

[@mytruthslays1303]

I never agreed with everything hitchens said, but I loved listening to him and I miss his talks.

[@clownworld2460]

Michael Knowles was an Atheist for 10 years. Wow!

[@aidanya1336]

@EPW80 Atheists are just as angry or not angry as any other group. The only slight exception to that is when someone deconverts and realizes everyone has been lying to them for years and years. Those are the people that usually start typing youtube comments and post on social media. But very little atheist you meet in your daily lives are angry or any of the actual content creators in that space. It seems like you have a bit of a social media impression of atheists.

[@paulthompson9668]

@EPW80 I never believe these self-proclaimed "atheist-turned-Christian" stories. Most of the time, it's someone who was actually a Christian (or at the very least a theist) who turns the Bible away so he can sin.

[@luck3yp0rk93]

@EPW80 switching beliefs based on feelings not facts? Shit better getter Ben on the phone for this one

[@ishy6830]

@@paulthompson9668 Weird

[@065Tim]

​@@paulthompson9668 Here you are, knowing the story of the prodigal son, still ready to cast the first stone.

[@masonchurch680]

14:44 Hitchens cites Historian Paul Johnson that 40-50% of the Waffen SS were Catholic. Which wouldn't be too much of a surprise given the nature of the organisation. The Waffen SS and its foreign legions being fighting soldiers were enlisted or volunteered to combat on the Eastern Front against the Bolshevists. In their recruiting efforts, the SS raise half a million foreign volunteers. Matching the half million ethnic Germans. About 38 divisions in total, where the majority were European. Given that Europe was much more religious back in the 40s having high numbers of Catholics wouldn't be surprising. But there were also a high number of Lutherans, anoticeable number of Muslims and Orthodox.

[@jramoo]

I don't get it - does Knowles and his producers think he has actually debunked Hitchens? Is this the cut version of a longer segment? I am more convinced that Hitchens is right after watching this video.

[@christopherjones67]

Loved Hitchins. His atheism never puturbed me. I found him fascinating and impressed that he could be so articulate despite drinking a bottle of scotch. Perhaps thats an English thing! His Marxism and support for the Iraq war is when i part company with Hitchins.

[@mickadams1905]

He did move away from Marxism as he got older. The Iraq war thing was weird but he argued his POV pretty well.

[@errands8253]

​@@mickadams1905he didn't move away from markism. he died a Trotskyite, no doubt about it.

[@mickadams1905]

@@errands8253 maybe but I've watched a lot of his stuff, I'm just going by stuff he said himself.

[@garethaustin3137]

You have not debunked Hitchens. To dismiss him as sounding like an edgy teenager is absurd. The man was not only an eloquent speaker, he was extremely well read and courageous in saying what was uncomfortable to say and sometimes actually dangerous. But his massive appeal lay not only in his irreverent charm and moral conviction, but in saying what was plainly true, and fearlessly cutting though the nonsense of religion in a way that set many people free.

[@dited358]

Except he talks exactly like an edgy teenager, maybe more well-spoken but still in spirit. Hitchens whole shtick is taking verses out of context and mocking the whole of Christianity from his own misunderstanding of it. He is not even in the lower tier of intelligent atheists, just another edgy militant.

[@keithhoffman5351]

He did a wonderful job as an advocate for the Iraq War, too.

[@garethaustin3137]

@@keithhoffman5351 True - now that's how you debunk Hitchens.

[@jcs9848]

@@dited358 He does if you ONLY cherry-pick the parts of the dozens of debates he took part in in which he decided to use this tone, which is precisely what Knowles has consciously done here.

[@sjsulews1]

@@dited358are teenagers never right? My favorite part of this video was the genusel advertisement…can’t tell for one second why this guy put this video together without actually answering any of Hitchens points vs giving mini homilies. In response to Hitchens divine North Korea - a proposition about what heaven would actually offer if it existed- he plays sappy music while faking emotion about drug users 13:05

[@MrSpleenface]

1. Hear Hitchens render an argument 2. Completely misunderstand the argument or focus in on some specific detail 3. Call the whole argument childish "When we talk about human action we're talking about political action. The decision to create a bomb, the decision to drop that bomb, the decision to talk to somebody about dropping the bomb that that would be a political action that involves society, but at a higher level what that involves is applied morality, so before you make that decision you have to know something about applied morality" - Michael Knowles This is literally Hitchen's point on why the bombs don't say anything about the truth or value of physics. They were moral decisions that bear on the truth and value of the moral frameworks that allowed the bombs to be used. But apparently that's "childish" according to Michael Knowles, despite literally agreeing with it. In the next argument, we learn that "do as I say or I'll torture you forever" is actually freedom and being able to take the actions we choose, right or wrong, without threat to ourselves is slavery, all over the ghostly impression of sad music as Michael Knowles pretends to sympathize with the addicts that he fantasizes about running over with his car and would screech about slavery if we tried to house.

[@seanmcmahon9217]

“Stupid line from David Hume?” Ya. Hume has been dead for over 300 years and he’s still cited. Pretty sure nobody will be quoting Knowles in 3 centuries.

[@clckc]

People have been quoting the Bible for over two thousand years

[@epicphailure88]

@@clckc That parts that make sense I hope.

[@clckc]

@@epicphailure88 Yep we’re not stupid

[@Shblibble]

@@clckcThe point is Hume wrote his own stuff. The Bible is all sorts of authors mixed together and edited over and over and over again and claims to be divine with no direct evidence. Not exactly the same…..

[@HarryNicNicholas]

@@clckc amazing isn't it, 400 pages of drivel still being touted by the superstitious. jesus wrote nothing. not even "my dad can beat up your dad" nothing was written about jesus, not even "saw jesus heal a leper today, amazing" until at least ten years after he was dead. no one has a clue what jesus said, did or thought and he spent 30 years telling folks god can cheat death, but the day he can demonstrate that "hey pilate, kill me again!" he vanished. christianity is based on one bloke having a hallucination he saw a dead bloke he NEVER MET?

[@Fnelrbnef]

I think being an atheist is weird. But being an agnostic makes sense.

[@avivastudios2311]

Yeah. Cause it makes more sense to say you're not sure.

[@Fnelrbnef]

@@avivastudios2311 Yes

[@colelewis9940]

I am laughing so hard. An atheist can be an agnostic and the overwhelming majority of us ARE agnostic And to be "agnostic" is NOT a position. You either have to believe in god or not, as in you have to be a god believer or an atheist. Whether or not you KNOW that to be true is irrelevant. I can't believe I have to explain this to an adult person.. Oh my.. Atheist = do you BELIEVE there is a god or not, it's not do I KNOW there is a god or not. I am on a Michael Knowles video so I shouldn't be so amazed but wow

[@colelewis9940]

Cant resist that atheist temptation in me to make you look EVEN DUMBER You have to be aware that literally every single human being born is born atheist.. If your parents instead of raising you just threw you in the middle of the Amazon rainforest and you miraculously survive... Guess what... You would not have a belief in god. Why? Because you weren't taught it... You would't even be able to articulate thoughts as all babies can't and again are atheists from the get go... But "being an atheist is weird". Hahahahahah ohhh lord have mercy on my nonexistent soul

[@Fnelrbnef]

@@colelewis9940 I doubt that you are laughing so hard though.

[@MajesticJoshua]

I do see devotion to religion as a form of slavery; you spend your life trying to appease some entity you cannot see or feel in the slimmest of hopes that you end up in paradise after you die or else spend eternity in Hell as punishment. That sounds like slavery and emotional blackmail to me.

[@MajesticJoshua]

@@markwitcombe2119 Yes.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

Would you say drug addiction is slavery? Because I always find it interesting when people regurgitate a point without actually thinking of the counter presented to it.

[@MajesticJoshua]

@@Wendeta-hq2cp Of course drug addiction is slavery.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

@@MajesticJoshua Right. And religion helps us stay aeay from vices like drugs. Therefore, it is liberating. It is protective. And sure there are certain restrictions, but I think it is important to understand that freedom, as defined by some in their view that something is free if there are no rules, is false. Freedom is the gap in the rules. Not the lack of rules. Therefore religion is not slavery.

[@MajesticJoshua]

@@Wendeta-hq2cp I’ve already outlined above why I believe you are wrong.

[@rethafourie7845]

Lucky for him Hitchens is dead and not able to debate him, Hitchens would have wiped the floor with him

[@blankblank9117]

I had high hopes that Mr Knowles might have some good arguments on the matter but it seems Christopher just hitch slapped him from the grave.

[@cjh.1920]

Hitches had a mind beyond most. Truly sad that people can be convinced that they could possibly think he’s wrong in good faith. Watching stuff like this tells me just how much Christopher Hitchens was right, and that most of these people haven’t actually read their own book. Stay positive and keep Hitchen’s good vibes alive.

[@JD-lt7uv]

❤😂❤

[@livetochange974]

Was a fan of Michael but realised he can only debate with college ignorant kids or dead people....that's basically most right wing KZbinrs now and it's sad. Just trying to own people instead of understanding other views and properly responding with empathy. All with agendas

[@KevinSmile]

I love the Hitchens fan boys in the comment section pretty much going: "God, my side won so hard. I will not elaborate on this"

[@livetochange974]

@@KevinSmile well your arguments are based on delusions. Same people that support boy genital mutilation shouldn't really act their book is the moral high ground

[@SwizzleStickMcGee]

Hitchens: Is there anyone you find eloquent enough to decide for you what you could read? Who would you give the job to decide for you? To relieve you from the responsibility of hearing what you might have to hear? Does anyone have a nominee? Hands up? There is an old story form a great Englishman Dr. Samuel Johnson, the author of the first great dictionary of English language. When it was complete he was waited upon by various delegations of people to congratulate him, and also by a delegation of respectable ladies of London. Dr Johnson, they said: “we are delighted to find that you’ve not included any indecent or obscene words in your dictionary.” The kind doctor responded: “Ladies I congratulate you on looking them up.” Anyone who can understand that joke gets the point about censorship, those who are determined to be offended, those who will precariously perch a ladder upon their toilet, just to be offended by what they see through the neighbors window? You will never satisfy those people.

[@marvalice3455]

But.... He *did* satisfy them though... Like, why would you choose this example? There is a lesson to be learned here, sure. And that is an important lesson. This is also true. But this lesson and this example are incompatible. Because those particular women *where* satisfied with what they saw.

[@SwizzleStickMcGee]

@@marvalice3455 Re-read it. Lol

[@paulmensah6780]

Oh oh, get ready for the backlash from the Hitchens and dilahunty boys😂😂

[@Lelldorin84]

Fedoras ASSEMBLE!!!!

[@MrTheclevercat]

predicting you're going to get "backlash" because you hate a man that makes you look retarded in comparison is such a super power.

[@rosezingleman5007]

The arguments of the freshman dorm….

[@davidr2299]

Dilahunty absolutely mopped the floor with Peterson and De Souza in their debates. Loved watching those strawman arguments get torn down one by one. If only Michael could actually debate them; it would be a treat.

[@MrTheclevercat]

I also hope that Michael will debate Dilahunty so we can put another nail in the coffin of cringestianity.

[@googlespynetwork]

The more I heard Hitchens speak, the more I realized how ignorant he was of the bible.

[@holdupimtrynathink]

How can you make those annoyed facial expressions and yet not debunk a single thing this man has said, its intellectually dishonest if you ask me. But hey, i guess bashing him is enough, no need to disprove him.

[@akeithing1841]

I went thru a Hitch phase myself. Some great essays and debate moments. But The fact that a self proclaimed socialist would move to the US in 1980 to be a writer instead of the USSR is quite telling

[@HughJorgan1]

Hitchens would call you out for ad hominem. His political beliefs and where he came from are irrelevant

[@Karlkarlssonn]

@@HughJorgan1 do u think the are irrelevant? they are obviously not, they are not irrelevant for anyone

[@onewiththeragingwind6730]

Its extremely telling that hes just another grift

[@Pheer777]

He fashioned himself a Trotskyist in his early years so not particularly hypocritical. Also he supported the Iraq war and said he considered himself an American and America his home so he recanted some of his earlier views.

[@carloscruz1285]

​@@HughJorgan1 everything a person says, does, and thinks is actually relevant when speaking about them. Actually what you're stating here is contradictory. People aren't who they are?

[@dapetik]

Michael - for a Catholic, you're not half bad 😂

[@Rydonittelo]

Easy there..... Yes he's not bad for a Catholic I agree but let's not get to far ahead of ourselves here, let's just calm down a bit with that kind of talk 👍🏻😁

[@davidr2299]

@@Rydonittelo oh no did he hurt your sensibilities??

[@Rydonittelo]

@@davidr2299 I'm going to assume you are north American and struggle with humour that is more than somebody slipping on a banana skin. Although I did end with ---------->😁👍🏻 , just incase there were north Americans reading my comment. Wow.

[@davidr2299]

@@Rydonittelo surely you must know sarcasm is impossible to discern through text. Right???

[@jh7589]

@@davidr2299 It was blatant. Not impossible. rolled.

[@generichuman_]

With the number of echo chambers that exist on the internet, it's pretty bad that Michael can't even find one that agrees with his points on his own channel...

[@plasmodesma7569]

Wow this is almost exactly my story (except I was in my early 20's). I was raised around religion and grew to despise it. Hitch (and even Harris) gave me words to define what I despised. In my 30's Jesus saved me in a completely miraculous way (miraculous to me at least), and I remember at first I was scared to revisit the Hitch debates. I was still young in faith. Over time, I did go back and listen and I also read the Harris book (letter to a Christian nation). After spending my own time scripture and studying for a couple years, I was amazed to finally see how little they knew of true Christianity. It became crystal clear that we cannot understand scripture without being indwelt by the Holy Spirit. Professing to be wise, they had become fools.

[@ChoseDeath]

That is pretty much my story EXACTLY. Looks like I'm in good company!

[@MidnightIsolde]

Very similar experience to you both

[@V4LTSUU]

What made you come to faith? I have all my life not believed in god. And I see no proof to believe in god. Anyone can feel welcome to answer or debate me. I would like to try see how one would believe in god at modern day

[@plasmodesma7569]

@@V4LTSUU I think you're mistaken of the process. No human being is going to convince you of anything. If you're decided against the possibility of God, then not even God will disrespect you by forcing a belief on you. God is loving, and therefore will not force you to violate your own beliefs. You must reach the point where you are willing to believe, willing to seek God, then your own journey will begin and God will reveal Himself to you. No human can debate you into belief.

[@V4LTSUU]

@@plasmodesma7569 Well Im not trying to become to belief. Im trying to understand why would one believe in such. I think basically all the evidence say that there isnt god. And that what you said that "have to be willing to" basically sounds like you just want to believe and start to believe without real logic or seeing the proof of god and starting to believe him

[@Disastatron]

Interesting that Hitch mentions mutilating children in the video and the right always mentions the trans movement mutilating children but never addresses what Hitch said. He is speaking specifically about circumcision. I'm sorry but both sides are entirely wrong about this issue. Circumcision and all child mutilation should be illegal.

[@thefriesens1071]

Comparing trans surgery with circumcision is like comparing Hiroshima with coke and mentos. Ridiculous comparison.

[@Disastatron]

@@thefriesens1071 Do you understand what a comparison is?

[@alyzak.8997]

circumcision doesn't ruin your health. It improves it

[@Disastatron]

​@@alyzak.8997 Oh really? As a male that has never suffered the procedure, please educated me about my body, doctor. Thank you.

[@mlh5434]

I used to be a quasi-atheist/agnostic, but then one day I sat down and actually read the first few chapters of the bible, learning about talking snakes and 900 year-old men. And now, I'm definitely an atheist.

[@Emanem-mp7oh]

That's not how it's meant to be. You need guidance. Take a look at a little known episode in acts 8, especially verse 30 and 31. Without someone educated enough to teach you're lost. The Bible was never meant to be separated from the teaching authority of the Church.

[@Pepsi-Mann21]

@@Emanem-mp7oh "Without someone educated enough to teach you're lost." This is the problem. Christians have so many interpretations of the bible that they split into factions.

[@nickc5417]

@@Emanem-mp7oh yes that's right MLH543, you need guidance, as you're clearly stupid enough to question talking snakes & near millennial men you clearly need one of our super intelligent charlatans to light the path for you. And definitely don't ignore the Church, when you read the bible alone you miss the cherished act of tithing which isn't cool - how else would we get our cold hard commission? Listen to religious Slim Shady, he knows the way of it

[@TyroneBiggums789]

Love this comment, once you dive into being analytical, biblical text makes less sense the more and more you read into it.

[@goncalodias6402]

@@Emanem-mp7oh i love it. you can only properly learn about the wonderfull teachings of the bible when a priest is telling you what its says. it doesnt sound like a scam at all

[@marcell.3058]

Christopher Hitchens most of the time just cites passages out of context and ruminates superficial mass-media content, while diving into full truth is always less spectacular and less funny. I cite his brother Peter (who to the contrary is a courageous believer) asking Christopher: "Why do you absolutely want that there is no God"?? As usual, brilliant debunking, Mr. Knowles!

[@MrTheclevercat]

That's a really common question for religious people to ask nonreligious people when the religious person is convinced that the nonreligious person really does believe in their religion's magic and revelations but they just find it inconvenient. It hasn't convinced anyone yet that they're just being stubborn. It makes us think you're a lunatic.

[@marcell.3058]

​​@@MrTheclevercat what a poor and confused soul you are...

[@jh7589]

Religion is itself about taking passages out of context.

[@Si_Mondo]

​@@MrTheclevercatIt's a question which originates from Thomas Nagel, the philosopher who is also an atheist. It's Nagel who Peter credits for coming up with it. If you don't like the question, take it up with Nagel.

[@marcell.3058]

@@Si_Mondo Thank you for specifying and all the best!

[@tru2thastyle]

Hitchens takes for granted that what he considers "evil" comes from his cultures Christian traditions.

[@nicovanos]

No it doesn't

[@DS2CV]

@@nicovanos well, he takes for granted that evils coming from religion can make religion a bad thing which is not a principle he did or could apply consistently since secular philosophy and political ideology are just as capable of producing evil - and he embraced those saying keep the good and jettison the bad: which is the correct disposition to have towards religion as well.

[@cadestekly6410]

@@nicovanosyes he does, the universal value of a human is only utilized in the judeau-Christian ethics.

[@nicovanos]

You people are quite arrogant in thinking that universal human value comes from judeo-christian ethics. We have an innate understanding what is moral. There are evolutionary reasons why we have this moral blueprint. That is why you take your bible and you choose what to adhere to, and you ignore what you don't like. Hitchens said: "People will do hideous and heinous crimes, if they are religious or not. But if you want a good person to do something evil, then you need religion."

[@DS2CV]

@@nicovanos 1) ''you people?'' - there's 4 people in the thread, don't generalize when we're arguing different things 2) as I said before, it is hitch who's being arrogant (at best - dishonest at worst) to say ''if you want a good person to do something evil, then you need religion,'' because even the most poorly informed about history will observe that it's not just religion but also secular philosophy and political ideology that get good people to do evil, and Hitch wasn't poorly informed about history.

[@BatZie]

1. Your first point is immediately refuted by the fact we have numerous examples of people saying both Tupac and Elvis are not dead... and we still dispute that as nonsense. So what 500 so-called witnesses claimed to have seen him? We have no proof of these 500 people other than the scribblings of those with a "stake in the con" decades later.

[@Emanem-mp7oh]

2000 years have passed, those 500 have grown exponentially. Believers through history have testified and still testify today that Christ is risen. You might not believe us but you can't dismiss the testimony of millions of people lightly. It's not 500 anymore. I'm pretty sure you personally know someone who believes Christ is risen. I doubt you know someone who believes Elvis is risen.

[@gnomeresearch1666]

His brother Peter Hitchens helped turn me to God interestingly enough.

[@mickadams1905]

Their debates were really entertaining, they clearly respected each other while disagreeing on a lot of stuff.

[@kiryu-chan577]

There is a small chance Chris went to purgatory and ended up on heaven. He listened to the book of John before he died.

[@IsraelCountryCube]

​@@kiryu-chan577 sorry I'm not Catholic but I see how Little Jewish woman Mary does have authority to squash the devil that much is enough evidence for me to believe I could pray to her for specific battles against sin and demonic oppression. But I don't believe in purgatory. Catholicism in it's traditional steel tungsten refined formation is tough indeed.

[@kiryu-chan577]

@Israel Country Cube Luke 12 :48 . Purgatory is described by Jesus. There are 4 outcomes. Heaven, light punishment, heavy punishment and cut in 2 and thrown in hell.

[@joshswicegood3253]

@@kiryu-chan577 purgatory is strictly a catholic tradition. It’s not biblical at all. That passage has nothing to do with life after death, nothing. You have no other chance to repent after death. It’s appointed once for man to die then the judgement comes. There are no 2nd chances. Either you accept and repent in Christ Jesus now or that’s it. That teaching of purgatory is heretical and has been for over 800 years . It was not taught in the early church because it’s not there in Gods word.

[@zaqzilla1]

All Hitchen's arguments are based on Judeo-Christian morality. Without Judeo-Christian morality everything he tries to condemn religion over is meaningless.

[@davidr2299]

False, secular humanism. Judeo Christian “morality” gave us the inquisition, crusades, witch trials, backwards and diabolical puritan law that prescribed torturing people. But that’s moral to you??! You people are devoid of thought and reason. Truly a vacuous mind you have.

[@PrinceAsmodeus]

🤣🤣

[@arcturus4762]

The moral argument when explained well is the bane of atheism. Using it you'll notice that 99% of the time they're holding a grudge and just want an excuse to judge God.

[@stonemarten1400]

It’s the height of arrogance to believe that human morality, such as treating others how you would wish to be treated, derives from the mono-theist religions, such as Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Civilisation itself pre-dates these religions by thousands of years and the nature-based beliefs, shamanism etc. of our hunter-gatherer ancestors tens of thousands of years before that; this was one of Hitchen’s key arguments.

[@PrinceAsmodeus]

@@arcturus4762 you're in a cult. Sad

[@bernardqblack]

That blank stare and smile on your face. (The Christian glee) when he talks about religion being totalitarian is exactly what slaves look like when challenged ... A grown man talking about the devil. Oy.

[@alyzak.8997]

The devil is funny until you actually meet him.

[@bernardqblack]

@@alyzak.8997 oy vey. The devil is a mythological construct of the medieval mind. Most people are ignorant of the history and evolution of the devil from Jewish angelic folklore to the hysterical Christian originator of evil. Cool character but no more real than Tony Soprano.

[@ramblinevilmushroom]

This is like wee man from WWE taking on mike tyson.

[@jayjulez7543]

I read an article like this before coming to the church. I glad I have Michael and Ben and others to put me right.

[@rsbds5791]

I was a athiest majority of my life but God showed his love for me and can never go back now. All glory Jesus 🙌

[@lempereur7503]

Yawheh was married, he's the son of El

[@Restorationshopyt]

I’m sorry for your loss

[@rsbds5791]

@@Restorationshopyt Wich lose?

[@Restorationshopyt]

Loss of intellect and basic reasoning skills.

[@rsbds5791]

@@Restorationshopyt Lol. Your logic is that everything was created from nothing by nothing, and humans came from fish. Lmao

[@TheStoryBox]

Every time I hear an atheist try and say there is no God I come back to what God said. “The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God.”

[@damianwhite504]

which is basically saying anyone who does not agree with me is doomed. That is pretty much a dictator

[@TheStoryBox]

@@damianwhite504 God was the one who said it not me. Take it up with Him. I just repeated His words. And calling someone a fool doesn’t make you a dictator I’ll have you know.

[@damianwhite504]

@@TheStoryBox Whatever. Youre right because God said it. What is point of commenting Christians have God on their side and are ALWAYS right. I believe Jesus said something about calling your brother a fool would make you in danger of judgement. You would be able to correct me because the Bible is ALWAYS right, no discussion or debate entered into

[@YukiNakaii]

Yeah, Hitchens covers his ears and says "LA LA LA Religion is bad". Here I was thinking he eloquently delivered coherent arguments. Thank you so much Mr. Knowles. Delete this video, it's embarrassing.

[@edeancozzens3833]

Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. The opposite is also true.

[@cynicalclockworks9857]

Hitchens is by far the most tolerable of the 4 Horsemen of New Athiesm, but mostly because he's funny. I also drank the Kool-Aid back in the day, though it was relatively short lived. One night, my bass player for my death metal band tried to stab me with a beer bottle. He'd mixed anti-depressants with alcohol and was having a bad time. I got away and found myself, at 3am, puking into a storm drain and wondering just how things could have gone so wrong? I was 20 years old, had flunked out of college twice, never had a relationship with a girl, never held down a real job. I realized, even in my drunken stupor, that while I didn't know exactly what I wanted, I didn't want this. Took a long time to go back to church. Took even longer to stop hating the fact that I was a Christian, and that being a Christian means you'll get evermore out of touch with society as time goes on. At this point, it's happening so fast I barely even feel it anymore. I'm comfortable knowing that where the world is going, I can't follow.

[@rokasdobrovolskis]

Amen!

[@timmothyjennings]

I thinking "drinking kool - aid" is more comparable to blindly believing superstition & dogma. Deluding yourself because you're afraid of death & it's implications. But idk 🤷‍♂️

[@bradthompson5383]

The bible is a book of pure evil. you literally worship a demonic psychopath that engages in genital mutilation, genocide, and eternal torture. Those are the deeds of pure evil.

[@ChoseDeath]

Death Metal is my favorite kind of metal 🥰 Glad you got yourself together brother, God Bless and hold fast!

[@NMemone]

"Where the world is going, I can't follow" YES.

[@lukeet331]

Bro he would have absolutely ran through you lmao

[@jaysenshere]

Easy to debate a man who isn't here to defend himself or his arguments.

[@rami3283]

You’re right, Hitchens had no place arguing against Jesus since he’s not here with us to defend his resurrection 😡

[@DartNoobo]

​@@rami3283Jesus is with us, I just don't think he considers Hitchens to be worth debating.

[@adamsanders2270]

It’s funny he brings ups Douglas Wilson, because Doug frequently cornered Christopher on the idea of morality and he never was able to even remotely ground where morality comes from.

[@Greywolf-91]

That’s a fundamental problem with atheists arguments.

[@adamsanders2270]

@@Greywolf-91 For sure. He would always retort some remark like, “I don’t need some magic man in the sky to tell me it’s wrong to murder.” Of course he should have been smart enough to know that his very conception of morality, growing up in the west, has been almost exclusively influenced by Christianity. These morals he assumed to be innate are highly influenced by Christianity.

[@myzamau428]

Morality evolves just as we do. What was moral centuries ago may not be moral now. We got on just fine without religion - if it weren't the case, we'd have all died out long before Christianity.

[@Greywolf-91]

@@myzamau428- Christianity wasn’t the first religion. Religion has existed in some form since the beginning of mankind. So with this in mind, your statement makes no sense.

[@adamsanders2270]

@@myzamau428 Christian doctrine would say that God writes morality on our hearts. So to a certain degree, yes, man has a certain intrinsic knowledge of right or wrong, without having it written down. We also believe that God limits the ability of wickedness to spread. So we aren’t as bad as we could be. It’s an interesting topic, for sure. But if we look throughout history there is a difference between cultures with some being far more desirable to live in.

[@EagleLeader1]

Try sticking to arguing Hitchen's points next time Knowles. You started off strong but then degeneragted into personality attacks. Also most contemporary historians say that at best the Pope was a reluctant collaborater with Hitler while trying to clandestinely undermine him or at worse an accomplice. This is the first time I've heard anyone claim he had designs to have assassinations of Nazis carried out. As a Catholic I'd love that to be true but sounds so far fetched that even if I bought into it I'd then have to reconcile why a 20th Century Pope was acting like a Medieval Pope.

[@hitman5782]

So funny, you have a Christian who has the chance to pick from thousands of points Hitchens has ever made and pick the easiest to defeat and Hitchens can´t even fight back and the Christian still loses on every single point he tried to debunk.

[@joshuastone8883]

Of course he doesn't debunk a damn thing. Doesn't address anyting Christopher says. this kid wouldn't last 90 seconds on stage with Christopher.

[@wolfnexus6621]

Easy to argue against Christopher when he can’t argue back. Though on the first point, the resurrection , you didn’t address Hitchens point that there were several resurrections, and none of those other resurrections were people who were of divine birth.

[@Haydrn]

Used to be a huge fan of Hitchens like Michael and a lot of people in these comments. I still have a soft spot for him and thinks he makes good points about a lot of stuff. It's important to have smart people on both sides of an argument.

[@bradthompson5383]

Especially genital mutilation. That Christianity has a god that commands genital mutilation proves the god is truly a demon, therefore it is immoral to be a Christian, or a Muslim, or a religious Jew.

[@michaelkearney3646]

Never was a real fan of Christopher Hitchens. His haughty Oxbridge accent, undeniable verbal fluency, and sometimes baroque circumlocutions made his statements and ripostes seem witty and sometimes profound (at least to an adolescent sensibility). But was he really witty in an Oscar Wilde way? No. And as Knowles I points out, he as dishonest in many statements which he would rattle off very convincingly. But it ill behooves one to be too critical of the dead. I will say that though I find Hitchens' theological arguments rubbish, I still prize his polemics, especially on the venality of the Clintons and like political travelers. And of the four horsemen of the new atheism, the easiest to listen to, compared to the Dawkins

[@ppiyushmishraa]

Knowles, you keep your hair straight with gel, that's what you are good at only. Don't bring down Hitchens to your street level.

[@ronjones2266]

The majority of arguments atheists use can be boiled down to “God is a big meenie pepeeni”.

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

Notice how basically all of Hitchens’ “arguments” are just thinly veiled insults and derogatory statements

[@marvalice3455]

It's scoffing all the way down

[@GenXNewsX]

I think it made Hitchens feel better that there was nothing after death nor any creator to judge us because he was basically a sarcastic toxic alcoholic. Hitchens died from a pretty terrible disease in the end. Still an atheist though, but God would be much kinder than Hitchens himself and forgive him I’m sure.

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

@@PullThePluGz not a rebuttal

[@DonkasaurusNZ]

I think the first one is very reasonable and doesn't contain anything insulting or derogatory-you tell me you believe some people from 2,000 years ago who saw someone 'rise from the dead' after being crucified and decided he was the son of god-I wasn't there and have never witnessed anything first-hand outside the laws of nature, and have also heard about similar stories in plenty of other religions around the world throughout history, so I consider it to be a fairytale.

[@yoricusrex]

Great video, Michael. I'm glad I found God a year ago and watching this makes me cringe at my teenage years being an atheist.

[@myzamau428]

Where did you 'find' him, exactly? What evidence convinced you?

[@gooddude8767]

@@myzamau428 +1 on this. I want to know.

[@alaniasdruid8616]

Good for you🎉 I feel similarly

[@MrTheclevercat]

We cringe much more for the cringestians.

[@raiova8550]

@@MrTheclevercat You can cringe all you want, atleast we have a universe that cares for us and you don't.

[@mactamac4466]

In the opening dialogue Michael says Christopher has swayed so many poor people away from God which is such a week straw man of Christopher's position. Rather, Christopher has helped people help themselves make their own decisions rather than a sick twisted alternative

[@MrMoeqt]

I'm seeing endless comments of people describing how they reverted to their faith after having once been misled by Christopher, and the shame and embarrassment they felt for having been misled as such - but not a single coherent take on any charge that Christopher made against religion. His catalogue of debates against religious leaders is enormous, and you only need watch them for yourself to see how when the ministers of religion finally meet a fearless spirit, and someone who understands their crappy texts better than they do, how quickly they're forced to fold. Christopher single-handedly exposed and exploded religious mythology once and for all time. He never shielded himself away from criticism, never looked for compromise, never allowed a poor argument to remain uncontested, and never lost a debate on religion. If you can't cope with the facts, it's not my problem.

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

The communists thought the same too. But then you realize Death comes for us all. All critics die. The religion stays. People forget the criticism or come up with ways to criticise it themselves, breaking away from the cycle of hate they've dug themselves in by abandoning God. God is eternal. He will not force you to be in his presence if you do not wish him to be. Satan will welcome you with open arms.

[@MrMoeqt]

@Wendeta-hq2cp Religion stays because humankind stays, even though man dies. Religion is manufactured by humans principally to calm their fear of death. Christianity and Islam are relatively recent religions, as compared to thousands of other definite religions that preceded them, and all of which held millions and millions of human beings in utter thrall. 5000 years from now, if humanity is still alive, and if human history is any guide to judge by, it's practically certain that Christianity and Islam will be gone forever, and will be as obscure as Zeus and Osiris and Rê are today. Live your one and only life freely and happily, and unchain yourself from the cramping delusions given you as a child.

[@apologiaromana4123]

Hitchens was a joke. All of the New Atheists were and are.

[@hithere9377]

I always wonder if Hitchens, on his death bed, during his dying moments, would have preferred being an atheist or a religious man.

[@historian9484]

In fact.before he died from esophageal cancer by few days he made sure to record that he still does not believe and will not believe in a God.After he died they interviewed his wife to make sure he still didn’t believe in God.She said he didn’t.So he died none believer

[@Restorationshopyt]

This is correct. Hitchens was not the weak-minded flip flop like guys like Michael Knowles are. Knowles used to be an atheist, then somehow took it to the extreme to defend catholicism. That’s who he is. It would not be surprising AT ALL if in another 10-20 years we hear Michael singing a very different tune, and doing so adamantly. People who do not have consistent belief structures tend to do that, they waver and flip flop, but they will defend their belief of the moment as though it were the only thing they have ever believed. That is a key sign of someone who is simply not credible. I on the other hand, have been extremely consistent on my thoughts and views since I was an early teen. I recognized that organized religion was a disease way back then, and over the years my confidence in that belief has only grown stronger and stronger. Where there was once a time in my life where I had a small amount of doubt that prompted me to make the effort to research all of this further, all that did was to further solidify my belief, or lack thereof.

[@hithere9377]

Don’t get me wrong I have no side in this argument and I wouldn’t consider myself a religious man. However, when I’m knocking on deaths door, I believe I will have a quiet word to a higher power. When you’re about to die, where’s the harm in believing that it is not the end? What would bring you more comfort in those last moments?

[@thefriesens1071]

​@@Restorationshopyt It's funny because most Atheists accuse Christians who are firm in their beliefs that they haven't truly examined their own beliefs if they are unwavering. They say we should always doubt if we're honest because you might be wrong. Maybe you've never examined your own beliefs because of your stubbornness.

[@AtownOriginal]

Michael, I think you're one of the most important voices in the world right now but these clips are not of his strongest arguments. Its like your producer intentionally picked softballs for you to crush out of the park. His debate with William Lane Craig is just one example of many where he presents arguments that even the most seasoned apologists had trouble with. Please tackle the tough ones for the people being deceived by them. It's vital.

[@charlescheeseborough298]

He got softballs and still struck out.

[@nschuehly]

You really think this intellectual lightweight can tackle any tough questions? He even failed miserably in this video.

[@JackieChanStan]

So if 500 people said they saw an alien ship, it's irrefutable, right?

[@user-em9su3dd9y]

@@markwitcombe2119 The proof is the 500 people saying it was an alien ship - that is the whole argument from Michael.

[@user-em9su3dd9y]

@@markwitcombe2119 It does not at all prove that they were not perpetuating something that they knew was not true. There are myriad reasons why they could have convinced themselves or lied about it. There are over 2 billion Muslims that have believed what they believe for around the same amount of time. If suddenly the amount of Muslims exceeds that of Christians, would that not mean you beliefs are now invalid? Taylor and I are arguing that numbers don't necessarily prove fact, so I can't provide evidence for that no.

[@OFFLABELable]

Debating a dead man...

[@hankschrader7050]

Hitchens was so articulate that he beat Knowles in a debate without debating him and without being alive.

[@333dav3eee]

Lol nice

[@gabrielleon971]

🤣🤣🤣 he got slammed vs Craig though 🥱🥱🥱

[@Rio-zh2wb]

@@gabrielleon971 Craig is a hack

[@generichuman_]

@@gabrielleon971 Craig lives in a world of pure conjecture where none of his ideas can be tested or falsified. This is an incredibly comfortable place to live. For the rest of us, whos ideas come in contact with the real world, we have to play by the rules and can't invent absurdities like entities that exit outside of time, space, and material, but can somehow maintain parochial abilities like answering prayers, disliking mixed fabrics, and being judgmental. To everyone whos mind hasn't been deep fried by childhood indoctrination, Craig is top shelf comedy and nothing more.

[@paramaniacwolverine843]

Hitchens is very much alive right now, and he's probably screaming at the top of his lungs to not listen to a word he said during his life on this planet.

[@therussianredstar]

Usually a Knowles fan, but every argument he made in this video was "weak sauce". Not convincing at all to a thinking mind