Michael Lewis is not not saying he predicted things would end up this way

[@hipnicity]

We need people to care about their health while they are WELL!

[@twilfits]

You not only find the most inspiring people to interview-- you ask the most intriguing questions which amplifies their importance. And I can't think of anyone who does this more naturally. Thank you ❤ 😊!!!

[@radman1136]

Great interview Katie! Lewis is one of my favorite authors, and I think that's the best interview of him I've seen. Enjoyed it immensely. Thank you.

[@tico28]

Decades ago, the first words from the (College) Microbiology class professor's lips were, "The world belongs to the microorganisms," we laughed. We aren't laughing now, we never should've taken our eyes off the ball is what can be read between the lines in this excellent interview, TY Katie and Michael L!

[@GALACTICS7]

Mk ultra mind control

[@smsmoof8128]

Especially synthetic ones created from labs ...

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@smsmoof8128 Microbiologist Ralph Baric(UNC scientist/Wuhan lab collaborator), the world's leading coronavirus scholar, one of the greatest experts in the construction of synthetic viruses...: “ You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace . The answers you are looking for, however, can only be found in the archives of the Wuhan laboratory " ->The Wuhan Lab deleted their entire database in September 2019.... Leonardo news spoke with him for the first time in Italy in an interview granted to PresaDiretta

[@pinchebruha405]

@@tuckerbugeater so no proof except the words of an expert against a country….so none of this matters because we will be vulnerable to the next one and the next one!

[@UnknownPascal-sc2nk]

Too bad twunt, along with disbanding the pandemic response task force because Obama appointees were on it, he withdrew our own Wuhan observers.

[@zedgarden]

One of the geniuses of our time. Great interview! Thank you.

[@davidsmith530]

It’s really nice to listen to a person that understands what he is discussing.

[@peacelovejoy8786]

Lol.. right!

[@Msboochie2]

Yes. I am shocked to learn that so many people had so much confidence in the CDC, and to hear his assessment of the time frame where the CDC went wrong is horrifying and accurate to me. I was born with a genetic disease in the seventies. By the late 80's, I was a teenager and I had my life nearly destroyed by the CDC twice, not to mention the other patients who had their own stories. I began researching them, and warned people against automatically trusting them. They would subsequently endanger my career and my life again. While this man has educated himself, and is well-read on the subject matter, if more people in charge were and took the time to listen to the little people, perhaps the necessary changes would have been made and we would have a competent agency. His timeline is scarily accurate to me.

[@GALACTICS7]

CDC warns us of the zombie apocalypse like its predictive programming

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@GALACTICS7 Microbiologist Ralph Baric(UNC scientist/Wuhan lab collaborator), the world's leading coronavirus scholar, one of the greatest experts in the construction of synthetic viruses...: “ You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace . The answers you are looking for, however, can only be found in the archives of the Wuhan laboratory " ->The Wuhan Lab deleted their entire database in September 2019.... Leonardo news spoke with him for the first time in Italy in an interview granted to PresaDiretta

[@Realist-sh3dg]

@@tuckerbugeater You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace.the answers you are looking for, however, can only be found in the archives of the Wuhan laboratory " We know they did it but destroyed the evidence. Standard procedure for generating a conspiracy theory.

[@davidkess2405]

.................Michael Lewis is the best of the best........

[@bethm6941]

TY so much for having M Lewis on.

[@lisasue4520]

Katie is my favorite journalist of all time. She’s always so intuitive and even-keeled

[@reginaldbowls7180]

She's a corporate shill.

[@sunshine3914]

@@reginaldbowls7180 Explain.

[@GALACTICS7]

Intuitive means she has a clue

[@dollymadison2397]

SAME!! What a treasure!!

[@dollymadison2397]

@@reginaldbowls7180 Couldn't be THAT bad, Reginald- YOU'RE here! Nonetheless- thanks for clicking on- your tiny contribution of toward Katie C's power & success is better than nothing/indifference. Oh & thanks for spending even more of your time hanging out with us in the comment section. How & where one spends one's time speaks VOLUMES over one's words. You are no exception to that FACT!

[@kennethkauzlaric8948]

This was such an informative interview. This was a cross between a Frontline Special, Ken Burns documentary and a Ayn Rand novel. I've been thinking lately about how history is going to judge our response and effectiveness in handling this pandemic. I guess this was the answer.

[@smsmoof8128]

*Yawn* ... 99.???% survival rate. This was a plandemic ... as the plandemic showed people should be more worried obesity, diabetus, having trouble breathing because of being fat and what they are eating. The lab managers where this came from knew exactly the victims the release was going to go after.

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@smsmoof8128 Microbiologist Ralph Baric(UNC scientist/Wuhan lab collaborator), the world's leading coronavirus scholar, one of the greatest experts in the construction of synthetic viruses...: “ You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace . The answers you are looking for, however, can only be found in the archives of the Wuhan laboratory " ->The Wuhan Lab deleted their entire database in September 2019.... Leonardo news spoke with him for the first time in Italy in an interview granted to PresaDiretta

[@smsmoof8128]

@@tuckerbugeater nice. Looks at judge: Your honor I rest my case.

[@mpetry912]

Very worthwhile interview, best thing I've listened to all day !

[@peggystoutemorin4529]

Katie, you really are an excellent journalist. I'm always impressed by the smart, relevant questions you ask your guests, no matter how technical the subject. Keep it up.

[@jotsingh8917]

And so is the hockey mom from Alaska.

[@stdev.]

@@jotsingh8917 Sarah Palin does what now?

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

@@jotsingh8917 Huh? Are you comparing Couric to Palin?

[@tombouie]

Great/Timely Interview

[@mmpw5775]

This guy is paying attention.

[@rajabali8024]

Xxxxxxxx

[@rajabali8024]

wwww

[@brementmark]

Terrific information and great interview

[@clairerobinson7658]

What a wonderful interview! Thank you Katie. I learned so much.

[@mariannehaworth9132]

Just saying Katie always looks so confident and comfortable, what a pro. This guy is super smart. :D

[@walternicolas6927]

Hello Marianne how are you doing today ?

[@tq2769]

yep

[@twilfits]

IKR she's so genuine so excited to meet her guests 💗

[@csloane4129]

SHE is super-smart as well.

[@dollymadison2397]

Yes! Katie C is an American treasure...a living legend!

[@pattygould8240]

This was so informative. Thank you.

[@deidrabay]

Thank you, Katie! You’re one of the best interviewers out there. Really appreciate that you let your guests give a complete answer- you don’t interrupt them - It’s more like a conversation. And you ask great questions and are always fully informed about your guests’ work. Thank you!

[@j.p.montpellier3834]

Katie....This was one of your best interviews. Fascinating topic with an extremely interesting and intelligent guess. BRAVO ! 👏👏👏😊👍 Merci Beaucoup....🥂🇨🇦

[@feedermonkey7233]

Agreed! 👍👏👏👏

[@j.p.montpellier3834]

Merci...🍸

[@carolinemaybe]

His books are amazing.

[@j.p.montpellier3834]

They must be Caroline....Refreshing to have a retun of intellectual and rational discussions on important topics that effects us all. Bravo !

[@hllok]

Great interview Katie, thank you. I just adore how you let your guests talk without over-controlling the situation. You come across as prepared, but mostly curious.

[@sweetsue4204]

Thanks for the hopeful conclusion. My friends here in Trumpland think I’m crazy, but I’ve been telling them for months that they’re discounting the talent of our citizens and the way we always find some unexpected way to bounce the right way. It might not be pretty or painless, but our innovative nature rises to the surface in the end.

[@audreydakin8130]

What a fascinating interview.

[@clbazar]

Fantastic work, Katie! Your long-format interviews are richly satisfying. Thank you for everything you do! 🙏

[@b991228]

Young Americans have the vision to see that radical change is a necessity and has to be embraced while many of us oldsters are in total denial. It’s time for us to step aside and let the kids take charge. The future is in the hands of the next generation.

[@Shiloh_II]

"Change comes one funeral at a time". Folks like McConnell don't step aside. Same w/ Pelosi, Biden, Schumer. The Dem Triumvirate.

[@susansoule9002]

++

[@Noneya5241]

Well said

[@blakesleyk.7166]

How is it that boomers who grew up w/responsible, Factual, sourced & accountable journalism are discounted. In your opinion, we’re better served relying on Doomers & GenZ, glued to their algorithm selectively fed glass tit. Tech. Unable to comprehend nuance. Facts vs disinformation. Real journalism is dead. Without which democracy dies.

[@tuckerbugeater]

@@blakesleyk.7166 Funny these boomers profited nicely off a burgeoning consumer economy and fossil fuels. Now they want us to change it to a technocratic dystopia. You stupid green fascists can F off.

[@nancercize]

Her last question, what have we learned, and is it enough to help us handle the next pandemics, is the most important.

[@nena4215]

Stanislaus county here in California was one of first to start vaccine roll outs, first by age, no appointment just come on down. They get an A+, still going strong!

[@briancase6180]

UCSF and the whole UC system reality has gotten no where near the national exposure and acclaim that it is due. California hasn't done everything right, by far (we haven't counted deaths very well, e.g., see this www.healthdata.org/special-analysis/estimation-excess-mortality-due-covid-19-and-scalars-reported-covid-19-deaths), but we've don't better than many other states and counties and with a MUCH greater population.

[@tangledwebs860]

Why would you be so proud to be a part of this dangerous experiment?

[@nena4215]

@@tangledwebs860 it is no experiment and I can protect you, everyone that got vaccinated will help protect you.........

[@tuckerbugeater]

Screw you and your bioweapon plandemic. Microbiologist Ralph Baric(UNC scientist/Wuhan lab collaborator), the world's leading coronavirus scholar, one of the greatest experts in the construction of synthetic viruses...: “ You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace . The answers you are looking for, however, can only be found in the archives of the Wuhan laboratory " ->The Wuhan Lab deleted their entire database in September 2019.... Leonardo news spoke with him for the first time in Italy in an interview granted to PresaDiretta

[@carolynblakeney966]

Another Q-tip desperately seeking straws to grasp.

[@edamoroso9062]

Excellent discussion- looking forward to the book!

[@AttackHak]

Katie Courics news has been made better by COVID. Thanks Katie for your in-depth stories.

[@GALACTICS7]

When the nazis lock you in you become a captive audience

[@susanbengston3496]

Astounding Interview- Hope IS Alive!!

[@RuthMTuff]

What a terrifically fascinating and informative interview! Thank you Katie and Michael Lewis.

[@thesecretgardengal]

Another home run interview, Katie! Keep them coming!

[@shelleymartin1451]

Wow! Fascinating guest, fascinating people, a fabulous and timely interview, super stimulating and eye-opening. I can't wait to read his book(s). Thanks, Katie Couric!

[@ghstbird3338]

I have NO idea who he is but I’m listening 👂🏼.

[@changeshifter4852]

Michael Lewis write the book 'The Big Short' about the 2008 financial crises, which then became a movie. I have enjoyed all of his books so far :)

[@maxis5650]

Moneyball and The Big Short are Best Picture Oscar nominated movies which are both based on books written by Mr. Lewis.

[@pie0ful]

Read his book The 5th Risk!!! Amazing and prophetic!!!!!!!!!!

[@freedomlife3623]

Best American non-fiction author in present time.

[@regisintaiwan]

Read his other books. They're great.

[@Earwaxfire909]

"Moneyball" is one of my favorites!

[@joandolliedoyle775]

It's great that after all his research of the challenges and mistakes that he is very optimistic for the future.

[@guybeauregard]

Great conversation. Love the long form discussion!

[@claireolsen3562]

Love this.. Truth is everything. You have enlightened me, a podcast side kick..what a great idea.

[@conors4430]

It’s an amazing book. As usual, Michael has a way of finding the right people in the wrong places within a bad system. So you are glad these people exist but horrified of what they have to put up with which impacts on us all

[@BritBike60]

Brilliant piece……..well done!!!!

[@IanSinclair77]

This was amazing. Well done.

[@Am5634]

Great talk. I Learned a lot

[@davidgalliano84]

Just bought the book on audible

[@bobzeschin3154]

I just put a hold on the Ebook with the LA County Library System. Of my four library cards (City of LA, LA County, Beverly Hills, and Glendale), they get new titles the fastest.

[@johnlittle8267]

Very impressive guest and interview!

[@myralhf]

There needs to be more accountability for All these agencies...so that there is communication easier to bring all together...

[@walternicolas6927]

Hello Myra how are you doing today ?

[@tuckerbugeater]

They all want to blame Trump. Microbiologist Ralph Baric(UNC scientist/Wuhan lab collaborator), the world's leading coronavirus scholar, one of the greatest experts in the construction of synthetic viruses...: “ You can engineer a virus without leaving any trace . The answers you are looking for, however, can only be found in the archives of the Wuhan laboratory " ->The Wuhan Lab deleted their entire database in September 2019.... Leonardo news spoke with him for the first time in Italy in an interview granted to PresaDiretta

[@bethm6941]

Hi Nina. So good to see you!

[@heatherc2939]

Stoked! Waiting for book to arrive! I hope Lewis addresses that Trump refused the WHO tests, which the rest of the world accepted, forcing CDC to make their own failed tests.

[@karenmiller8090]

Great interview. Thanks!

[@taylorw]

The Premonition is illuminating on many levels. It and “Fifth Risk” should serve as the basis for the new civics that is so badly needed in K-12. It ain’t about a Bill. A great contribution to asserting the value of self-governance, IMHO, which has been sadly missing in action.

[@annfuller9044]

Public Health has been starved for funds like all other infrastructure. It does not take a mental giant to know that bridges, public health, roadways, buildings and etc., do NOT just take care of themselves without any kind of infusion in the basic structure of our society and country. I cannot believe that our politicians were this dereliction of duty. The county I live in did have an exemplary system enough so that other states and counties have used it (now defunct) to model their system after. Something will happy if we do not plan and fund our upkeep of basic structure. We should have seen this coming for many years.

[@Sunshine-kq4sw]

Michael Lewis, I’m so sorry for your loss 😔

[@angeykim]

So good!

[@JanetLClark]

This guy is the real deal!

[@denasharpe2393]

Thank you

[@beinghere1494]

Thank you for this interview, thank you for your discernment. Simply Thank You 🙏🏽 and Thank You to Michael 🙏🏽

[@soaringkite2673]

Fascinating!

[@autumnmeadows4079]

I am amazed that the past administration is not being held responsible.

[@sandyarmstrong6511]

Good Example in 2014- I thought if I chose a life’s legacy what would I want that to be ? I made my choice instantly for a Philanthropic Institution cause purpose ect. I designed it all out in my head because on my spacial relation work board it was consistently upgraded & updated. But then I decided how what vehicle would it take to get there or make that happen.

[@janewatkins4262]

What a great interview! Listened to the first one, this one even better! Katie, love you and your knowledge. Trying desperately from your “Wake-Up Call” site to get tickets to your Book Tour in Atlanta. No success! Something about the code....? I must meet you? Help! What to do? Will pay $$$!🙏🏼💚

[@johnhumphries505]

Katie Couric is not intuitive and therefore should not be in this Lane of journalism. Most of her questions are not the right question and Lewis redirects questions over and over. This interview is a perfect example of the Dunning Kruger effect where Couric is trying to keep up intellectually with Lewis and can't (you can see her struggling to keep up) and Lewis is doing his absolute best to make it understandable to her. Personally it is hard to see her as anything but bland, something like a dinner party guest interested in someone with knowledge. Nevertheless I kind of like her as a person but she is just such an easy target.

[@D45VR]

You obviously shine above us mere mortals.

[@johnhumphries505]

@@D45VR Well you can do it too if you take apart and remove your self-built walls and obstacles that fortify and defend your keep. Let me take a guess that your Mama had on television every day of your life either Fox News or Christian TV like 700 club or both. Being individual and question your own ideas

[@josefinamasadao1673]

I feel hopeful now...

[@JB-th6ej]

Katie - PLEASE tell me the make and model of your eye glasses PLEASE? Buying my first pair and love yours. Thanks so much :)

[@joannemccarthy1398]

What about our federal government's lack of response to HIV/AIDS?

[@clemencia1131]

Thanks so much for this so much needed book. I always got concerned about the health institutions he mentions where people are admired but do not dispose of the things they need to do the work. Are they really good professionals, or are they just there raising their egos?

[@LollipopRush-n3x]

In Dec 2019 I got a flu but within 12 hours it went straight to my lungs which was alarming to me. That was my warning that things were changing.

[@davidwilkie9551]

Weird and mysterious, the previous description of Quantum Mechanics as the best mathematically correct predictable explanation of future possibilities, which when you look at Euler's e-Pi-i 1-0-infinity sync-duration modulation cause-effect of holographic memory associations is very informative about why G'ma has something to remind you of from the positioning system of QM-TIME to make resonant probability connection, the simple kind we hardly notice, but show up to teachers who are focusing on stages of development, ..or mothers and babies.

[@aidanmargarson8910]

The interesting part as Michael said other countries took on board the thinking of how to handle a pandemic, is that it's a curious interaction of American wishfulness and magic belief that caused people to create it and then put it aside. A similar thing happened with Y2K

[@bodgertime]

Katie, we. need you on Jeopardy 📺

[@stacyyoust]

This has been muy groovy

[@RaitaNag]

I was supposed to go to Korea. I was the first one to cancel my travel even though no one believed me. I had a strong feeling against this

[@dragonfour55]

Read his most recent book - The Premonition: A Pandemic Story. Stunning.

[@Bergmannnice]

Great 👍🏽

[@makedredd299]

I also dreamt about the world being drowned by the ocean as far as my eye could see, 1 to 3 months after Wuhan lockdowns. Tall trees the height of 10 storey buildings, forests being under water. I was sitting on the roof of a house alone with nowhere to escape. 🌲 🌲 🌲 🌊 🌊 🌊 🏡🧎🏻‍♀️ Was the most realistic and scary dream I’ve had for almost 20 years. Scarier than the Corona pandemic.

[@scottm2553]

Hey this is a change, Katie normally uploads her videos around 3am PST

[@TurtleKitty-357]

Luv you Katie! I'm kinda confused....is Michael Lewis' book 'fiction" or a non fiction book??

[@heatherc2939]

Hi Mari Lynn, it is non fiction.

[@TurtleKitty-357]

@@heatherc2939 thank you! I kinda thought so...but it seemed a bit unclear. I saw 2 interviews with this guy and was STILL confused! Especially when he talks about "characters"...

[@jerroldbates7015]

The wall has not been kind to Katie.😦

[@dr.barrycohn5461]

I hate to say it, but Katie Couric is sounding intelligent now that she's away from dumbass network TV. Hat is off to you Katie, great job and great guests!!!

[@spacecoyote6646]

Michael, I love your books. Katie, I have that same shower curtain.

[@sandicampbell3252]

I read "The Premonition" and think it should be required reading for all Americans. However, I was curious and disappointed about the fact that Mr. Lewis didn't mention the CRISPER connection, when he talked about the shift in how to make vaccines. Was that technology just not around yet? That seemed unclear to me.

[@terryflynn8240]

Watched the whole thing very fun and entertaining sometimes I jump to quickly on occasion.. It is an advantage and a flaw..Bless me Father for I have sinned. Still believe what I said though. Not an indictment on either of you intended .Additionally most likely not executed in polite terms. I can only assume.

[@aidanmargarson8910]

Also, see the pacific northwest etc. Michael please do a book about climate modelling and how we are starting to see Methane Hydrates starting to bubble and release and how the melting permafrost is producing Methane in massive amounts

[@Healingwearehere13d]

There are mullions of people in USA that are first wave covid-19 long-haulers that could not receive a test, and we are still ill, most of us have major damage to organs, even some doctors willnot give us the tests that we need.

[@karenhochberg1691]

Katie, why always a blame question? That's the problem with journalism, sensational, blame game. Tell the full story and you even had the Lewis book to dig for deeper questions.

[@clifftanch]

Sort of puts Robert Redfield under a harsher light. Never trust the immaculate resume by itself.

[@zhoubaidinh403]

Our system is becoming a plutocracy, an idiocracy...and we call ourselves exceptional...and want to export it to the world.

[@D45VR]

we need a word for an obesity based society... gluttonacracy?

[@hipnicity]

Yes! Hindering science in search of profits!

[@sandyarmstrong6511]

So this author said to himself? What would it take to get everyone involved? The answer is everyone only gets involved when everyone is effected & not insulated..

[@ellenrosegaynor8063]

"A Shiny Bright Spot" ... Foundation ...

[@DocDanTheGuitarMan]

Do we need an early warning system for zoonosis or much tighter biolab security with a prohibition on GoF research? Or both?

[@unfoedonnie7]

Great Convo. However KC seems a little trigger happy with the finger pointing blame game

[@ChokeOnHamburder]

There is NO way W read a book about the 1918 pandemic.

[@rachelstark2391]

Laura read it to him...

[@sammavitae114]

He had the Classics Illustrated edition.

[@sandyarmstrong6511]

Intuitive Visionaries like NOSTREDOMUS CAN SEE LONG DOWN THE ROAD.

[@valmach1]

Please do an episode covering the evil of The Nondelegation Doctrine

[@sandyarmstrong6511]

ALTRUISM REQUIRES GREAT STRENGTH & STAMINA SPANNING BEYOND MOST INDIVIDUALS TIME FRAME CAPACITY. It’s as if being concerned about something through “Gods Eyes” knowing seeing it there maybe not totally defined or in 🧘‍♂️ focus. But the mathematicial potential is obvious catastrophic and eventually culminating.

[@crystal4514]

Are you sure this is going to help instead of hurt what's going on right now

[@sandyarmstrong6511]

ALTRUISM: Is the missing Component in Mass Society. Example Narcissism, vs. Altruism: OPPOSITES LIKE GEMINI & SAGITTARIUS ♐️.

[@sc000ter000]

hope is in vain as long as the economy survives.

[@knightmarecityk]

They may not have an interest, but even more importantly, they just don't have the ability to accurate!y assess risk.

[@ellenrosegaynor8063]

Whole story reminds me of The China Syndrome ... Nuclear Meltdown catastrophe now threatening Chernobyl. Superb casting for this movie seems a good idea.

[@zachducey9291]

You said not twice